It supposed to root with just an apk and not trip Knox.
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RubenEsp said:
It supposed to root with just an apk and not trip Knox.
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Works rooted this morning from stock NC5 .. no issues still have knox 0x0
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Works rooted this morning from stock NC5 .. no issues still have knox 0x0
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Have you installed a custom recovery and did that trip the Knox counter?
No still stock but rooted
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Have you installed a custom recovery and did that trip the Knox counter?
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Mr. Smith,
There are basically three things that KNOX checks whenever you start your phone:
Bootloader:
KNOX will check the bootloader and make sure that it is completely stock.
Recovery:
KNOX also checks the Recovery to make sure it's fully stock. Having any type of custom recovery will trip KNOX when you try to boot your phone (even if it's already rooted).
Kernal:
KNOX will check the Kernal to make sure it's not modified in any way. Thankfully, you can have root access without modifying the Kenal, so this isn't an issue in terms of tripping KNOX.
The issue was that the traditional ways of rooting included modifying one (or more) of the three above, so you'd have to trip KNOX in order to obtain Root. Towelroot apparently has found a method that does not utilize the kernal, bootloader, or recovery, so you can now have root access without tripping KNOX. This means you can install SuperSU, wireless tethering apps, and other apps that require root (Titanium Backup, XPosed, etc). This can give you unparalleled control over a stock phone.
If you want to install a custom ROM, you're going to have a much harder time. As of now, there is only one way to install a custom ROM without tripping KNOX. If a ROM developer creates a ROM that uses the stock kernal, you can install a TAR file in ODIN and it shouldn't trip KNOX. The issue with this is that very few dev's are willing to do this, because the kernal restrictions will tie their hands in terms of which mods, etc they can implement in their ROM. It also only appeals to a relatively small subset of XDA users, so it's more difficult to justify the amount of work that it would take. Also, finding someone with a 0x0 phone willing to test a ROM would be a bit difficult.
Anyways, I hope this helps your understanding of what you're getting when you root with towelroot.
Sprint note 3 nc5 I went ahead and did this one click root thing and all went well.
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Rooted tonight. Did not trip Knox. Having trouble updating the SU binaries since I cannot flash the update from the Chainfire website. Any ideas?
geebee1932 said:
Rooted tonight. Did not trip Knox. Having trouble updating the SU binaries since I cannot flash the update from the Chainfire website. Any ideas?
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I have the same problem with the binaries on super su.
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Cant you just update super su on the playstore?
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I tired to update via the play store but the SU app there is out of date. Flashable zip on Chainfire website but I have no way to flash it via the standard recovery. I do have SU access thought and have tested Titanium backup. Can anyone make the Zip file into an apk? I usually use root to remove all of the crap-ware that is on the phone.
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I tired to update via the play store but the SU app there is out of date. Flashable zip on Chainfire website but I have no way to flash it via the standard recovery. I do have SU access thought and have tested Titanium backup. Can anyone make the Zip file into an apk? I usually use root to remove all of the crap-ware that is on the phone.
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You do have su previlages, but the thing is you can only grant or deny apps.
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Just Download the root checker and xposed and youll be good
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Just Download the root checker and xposed and youll be good
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That's what I did.
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That's what I did.
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They fixed super su this morning. Can now update binaries.
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Download the zip from chainfire site unzip it and install the apk under the common folder that's how u update su
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SU update this morning worked for me as well. I was able to update the binaries. This root method has been near perfect for me!
Sounds like an effective way to root. I've already rooted my GN3 with cf auto root but I might as well try this with my Galaxy s5.
Worked for me! Knox did not trip! Donation coming
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Hi, I was wondering if it was possible to install the AOSP SMS app without root? The touchwiz SMS app is annoying me and I'm not quite ready to start flashing new roms.
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Don't believe so, since you'll need to access /system on the phone, and you need a root browser [with root permissions] to go there/ You can do the simple rooting process [literally takes less than 2 minutes] have root, stock rom with root access, then install the apk.
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Don't believe so, since you'll need to access /system on the phone, and you need a root browser [with root permissions] to go there/ You can do the simple rooting process [literally takes less than 2 minutes] have root, stock rom with root access, then install the apk.
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At the risk of being flamed, which process exactly allows root for under 2 minutes? Through Odin?
Is there a fix yet for the counter?
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At the risk of being flamed, which process exactly allows root for under 2 minutes? Through Odin?
Is there a fix yet for the counter?
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Don't really worried about the counter, if you rally so paranoid about it, ask how many people been refused for insurance or service from the counter, I rooted all my phones and by law they have to help you with the device, of course don't boot loop your phone by flashing something that doesn't belong to your s3(another carrier or model) I and you should be good, I have rooted over 10 devices (own devices) and had service in 4 and they never said anything, I even Sent my old evo rooted to asurion and I don't get charged for the new one they sent me
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I'm on firmware and currently.If it is possible to root my Gs5 the towel root method without a computer would somebody please explain the process. Thanks In advance!!!
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I'm on firmware ane6.
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O.k. I just towel rooted my Gs5.Is there away to add a recovery for I can flash rims without a computer. Is yes could someone please explain, help me out a little bit. Thanks
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Yes it's possible. You can go to the towelroot site on your phone and click the lamda to download the apk file. Then browse to that file on your phone, install and run.
Note: You will need to have install from unknown sources checked. It may prompt during the install to adjust that setting. Otherwise, you may need to do that before.
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Yes it's possible. You can go to the towelroot site on your phone and click the lamda to download the apk file. Then browse to that file on your phone, install and run.
Note: You will need to have install from unknown sources checked. It may prompt during the install to adjust that setting. Otherwise, you may need to do that before.
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Yeah I got my phone towel rooted can I flash a recovery without a computer? If yes how? Thanks
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Glad you got it rooted. I'm still researching the custom rom option because everything I read says that any install of a custom recovery App will trip the knox counter. On my old AT&T S5 with a locked bootloader, I had Safestrap recovery installed which seemed to get around this issue and allow custom roms to be loaded without tripping knox.
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Glad you got it rooted. I'm still researching the custom rom option because everything I read says that any install of a custom recovery will trip the knox counter. On my old AT&T S5 with a locked bootloader, I had Safestrap recovery installed which seemed to get around this issue and allow custom roms to be loaded without tripping knox.
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I figured it out I'm using twrp. Thanks, bud.
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Too bad TWRP trips Knox as far as I understand.
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Too bad TWRP trips Knox as far as I understand.
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Lol
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I've tried many root processes without computer but all of them say my phone isn't compatible,I also have gs5 sm-g900t
This is my second New LG G3 and Busybox fails to install.
On my first G3 the install worked. Does anyone have any suggestions?
5 years and I've never had a problem installing busybox before.
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This is my second New LG G3 and Busybox fails to install.
On my first G3 the install worked. Does anyone have any suggestions?
5 years and I've never had a problem installing busybox before.
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You must have root.
If you have that, sacs and Barren have it built in.
I installed stericsons busybox from the PlayStore and has no issues prior to unlock.
engine95 said:
You must have root.
If you have that, sacs and Barren have it built in.
I installed stericsons busybox from the PlayStore and has no issues prior to unlock.
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Of course I have root, that's a given.
I don't want to flash a Rom.
I've already used that busybox and it force closes.
I am using JRummy's Busybox installer but it fails to install.
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JHumBL3 said:
Of course I have root, that's a given.
I don't want to flash a Rom.
I've already used that busybox and it force closes.
I am using JRummy's Busybox installer but it fails to install.
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OK. Get a root checker from the Playstore and make sure root is right. That's the only reason I can think of.
And again, just another check box, do you have SuperSU and not Superuser? That's the root that's recommended by Stump.
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OK. Get a root checker from the Playstore and make sure root is right. That's the only reason I can think of.
And again, just another check box, do you have SuperSU and not Superuser? That's the root that's recommended by Stump.
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Busybox says I'm rooted. I have plenty of working root apps. SuperSU Pro installed and updated binary. xposed module installed and working. So I don't have a root problem.
Like I said I've been doing this for 5yrs so I know what I'm doing. It's a problem I've never encountered before and I can't find anything thru Google either.
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JHumBL3 said:
Busybox says I'm rooted. I have plenty of working root apps. SuperSU Pro installed and updated binary. xposed module installed and working. So I don't have a root problem.
Like I said I've been doing this for 5yrs so I know what I'm doing. It's a problem I've never encountered before and I can't find anything thru Google either.
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Well, I was just offering ideas. Sorry if I offended.
That's all I got.
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Well, I was just offering ideas. Sorry if I offended.
That's all I got.
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No need to apologize. I wasn't offended.
I'm not looking for basic troubleshooting.
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problem solved... Moderator please delete topic
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What was the fix?
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Hello, i am currently on 17.1.2.A.0.314, rooted with SuperSU with survival mode enabled. I get the update notification for 23.0.1.A.0.167, but when i download and try to install it, it says verification failed. I had recovery installed previously but i reflashed the stock firmware to remove it( i didn't wipe the data though), but still it says verification failed. Any help would be highly appreciated.
Thanks.
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your rom has to match stock to be able to update
Any changes need to be removed (root, mods, Other stuff alike )
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your rom has to match stock to be able to update
Any changes need to be removed (root, mods, Other stuff alike )
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My rom is purely stock with no modifications at all except the root. Some people updated over the air and that saved the root, that's what i was trying to do too.
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fayez69 said:
My rom is purely stock with no modifications at all except the root. Some people updated over the air and that saved the root, that's what i was trying to do too.
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im not sure how they did it then :/
root counts as a modified system because you have the SU binary and superuser manager
As I told in another thread, OTA update with root is pure luck if everything went good and remain root.
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im not sure how they did it then :/
root counts as a modified system because you have the SU binary and superuser manager
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I was able to update rooted phone over the air many times before this one. Now i'll update only when there is some working root method for 4.4.4 (because i just don't want to flash a pre-rooted firmware as i don't want set up the whole phone from starting). Anyway, thanks for help ?.
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electrash said:
As I told in another thread, OTA update with root is pure luck if everything went good and remain root.
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Yea, may be you are right, i think i am not lucky this time. But anyway, thanks for the reply ?.
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If you have recovery then it won't update.. I updated fine with superSU in survival mode..
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If you have recovery then it won't update.. I updated fine with superSU in survival mode..
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No, i don't have recovery! Just the root, but still it's not able to verify the ota update. I am not going to update now, pretty much satisfied with the current firmware.
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My rom is purely stock with no modifications at all except the root. Some people updated over the air and that saved the root, that's what i was trying to do too.
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You need to carry out an OTA upgrade for that to work not all carriers support OTA. And those that do may carry out checks that fail, try flashing stock UK (unbranded) .314 I know people who've had success with that one.
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I was able to update rooted phone over the air many times before this one. Now i'll update only when there is some working root method for 4.4.4 (because i just don't want to flash a pre-rooted firmware as i don't want set up the whole phone from starting). Anyway, thanks for help ?.
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You might have to settle for avoiding 4.4.4 then, as I don't know how much effort devs are putting I into finding a new exploit when flashing a pre-rooted rom is so trivial.
Ok i'll try that, but if it fails too then i won't update to 4.4.4.
Thanks for the help!
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What is the effective way to root without tripping KNOX?
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Kingroot
They said that it is not safe and others got KNOX counter too
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I used kingroot and it's completely safe
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Can it be changed to supersu?
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I used kingroot and it's completely safe
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Are you on lollipop? They said that it is not safe
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jimbomodder said:
I used kingroot and it's completely safe
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Are you on lollipop? They said that it is not safe
Brocker7 said:
Are you on lollipop? They said that it is not safe
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Yup, my phone came on lollipop, i used it to root and had no issues. Flashing custom recovery trips Knox so you'll be fine
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Yup, my phone came on lollipop, i used it to root and had no issues. Flashing custom recovery trips Knox so you'll be fine
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Are you sure about that? I would only like to root my phone, I will not flash some recovery **** to it.
Brocker7 said:
Are you sure about that? I would only like to root my phone, I will not flash some recovery **** to it.
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Positive, Knox is only tripped when installing custom recovery via Odin or an app, also using cf-autoroot via Odin will trip Knox too.
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jimbomodder said:
Positive, Knox is only tripped when installing custom recovery via Odin or an app, also using cf-autoroot via Odin will trip Knox too.
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Thanks :laugh::good: already rooted my phone my problem now is that I cannot install V4A. I already installed busybox and selinuxmodechanger to set it to permissive, why is it that the driver is not installed?
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Thanks :laugh::good: already rooted my phone my problem now is that I cannot install V4A. I already installed busybox and selinuxmodechanger to set it to permissive, why is it that the driver is not installed?
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Not sure on that, try again and reboot
After King Root, use Super Su Me to remove King root with its slightly alarming permissions and replace with Super SU - worth the small price.
Eserim said:
After King Root, use Super Su Me to remove King root with its slightly alarming permissions and replace with Super SU - worth the small price.
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Haha thanks sir
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Not sure on that, try again and reboot
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I even uninstalled busybox and selinuxmodechanger but nothing worked
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I successfully rooted my A3 (A300FU) with KingRoot then removed and replaced to SuperSU with this method: http://zidroid.com/how-to-get-ride-and-replace-kinguser-with-supersu-app/
We need to slightly modify the script due to different mount points, but after SuperSU installs and updates flawlessly. And the best of it: phone keeps rooted after reboot, and KNOX isn't affected. (0x0)
Will flashing through recovery trip knox? My device got bootloop after I accidentally uninstalled GLTools, I will be flashing the uninstall_gltools.zip that GLTools created
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Will flashing through recovery trip knox? My device got bootloop after I accidentally uninstalled GLTools, I will be flashing the uninstall_gltools.zip that GLTools created
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If you flashed a custom recovery before, then your KNOX is already tripped. If you haven't I suggest to reflash a stock rom from samsung-updates.com or sammobile.com with ODIN. Anyway I dont know if it's possible to apply zip updates via stock recovery, I haven't tried it yet.
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If you flashed a custom recovery before, then your KNOX is already tripped. If you haven't I suggest to reflash a stock rom from samsung-updates.com or sammobile.com with ODIN. Anyway I dont know if it's possible to apply zip updates via stock recovery, I haven't tried it yet.
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Found a way! Using flashfire
I have used Kingroot on my A3 (SM-A300FU) and KNOX flag is 0. If you don't trust on Kinroot (like me) you can remove then.
I have used the second method and works fine: https://www.droidmen.com/remove-replace-kingroot-kinguser-with-supersu
Best Regards.
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They said that it is not safe and others got KNOX counter too
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