Hello Guys,
I know the Z2 is Waterproof for 30 min at maximum 1.5 m deep in freshwater.
Saltwater, as far as I have read, is an absolute no go.
But my question is just, why?
Saltwater has a little higher thickness so it can no enter the phone as easy as freshwater does.
But it is highly corrosive to unprotected metal.
But of course the phones frame is made of aluminium wich is highly corrosion proof up to a pH-value of 9, saltwater has something arround 8.
So from the simple chemical point there should be no problem and Youtube shows in several videos that some brave people allready have done this.
So, what are the effects of saltwater and will it be enoght so wash it is freshwater afterwards?
Thanks in advance
I think it's about the seals. They are made of rubber, which can be (up to Sony, I don't know if it's truth) damaged by saltwater.
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yes Salt is obviously harder and rougher than water in some respects so salty water will actualy erode even the glass on your device a bit more, its probably not a good idea to keep your phone in salt water for long at all
I am just afraid of the headphone jack and the Speakers/Microphone outlets..
ok you can seal the headphone jack easily but what will happen to the microphone or the speakers..
I've just read something here: http://pocketnow.com/2014/02/19/smartphone-salt-water-problems
I've damaged my headphone jack because of salt water.
I used my phone in sea water and the phone doesn't connect headphones, anymore.
The outlet is green (inside). I've tried to clean it with fresh water but it still doesn't work .
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http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Clean-a-18-3.5mm-Headphone-Jack/
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Got my ZU a week or so, totally in love with it! "i'm a size queen" lol
leaving this aside, I went on to test it's underwater capabilities and was quite confident as my previous Z was a warrior and no water infiltration in one year!
after submersion, that was for ~5 seconds I carefully wiped it dry and made sure there is no water left in the headphone jack
6 hours later I leave work and plug my headphones in and SURPRISE! at max volume the phone acts like it loses contact with the headphones and pauses the track in WALKMAN.
same in FM radio, tried with 3 different pairs of headphones.
should I let it more toooo...idk get the headphone jack dry off?
Water damage indicator is white, no infiltration and i made SUUUURE i had the flaps closed.
help me guys
UPDATE:
left it alone for a while and it's all good now
seems there was a droplet of water or smth still in the headphone jack.
sigh, maybe a protective flap for it is not that bad afterall? lol
thanks anyway guys
back to being happy with my ZU ^.^
I know I'm not the first to write a thread like this, and I doubt I'll be the last but....
Took my XZU in the swimming pool with me today, and it has not survived. I made extremely sure all flaps were securely fastened beforehand. Even checked that there was no dirt in the seals. I was in the shallow end of the pool, which is only ~0.5M deep, and yet after 5 mins in the water recording some vids with the GF, the phone is now dead!
Seems like some water got in behind the volume rocker, so now the phone thinks both volume buttons are permanently pressed, leading to a bootloop when trying to turn the phone on as effectively the power+vol up+vol down buttons are all pressed.
I am not impressed! I've taken the phone in the shower with me before without any problems, and tested the waterproofing in the kitchen sink before too, so I expected it to be fine. However it seems this time I was unlucky!
Moral of the story: While the XZU is waterproof(ish)... don't take it in the pool unless you don't care about the phone too much! There is a fair chance it will not survive. Personally I'm now hoping the old "leave it in a bag of rice" trick will help.
stiggy2012 said:
I know I'm not the first to write a thread like this, and I doubt I'll be the last but....
Took my XZU in the swimming pool with me today, and it has not survived. I made extremely sure all flaps were securely fastened beforehand. Even checked that there was no dirt in the seals. I was in the shallow end of the pool, which is only ~0.5M deep, and yet after 5 mins in the water recording some vids with the GF, the phone is now dead!
Seems like some water got in behind the volume rocker, so now the phone thinks both volume buttons are permanently pressed, leading to a bootloop when trying to turn the phone on as effectively the power+vol up+vol down buttons are all pressed.
I am not impressed! I've taken the phone in the shower with me before without any problems, and tested the waterproofing in the kitchen sink before too, so I expected it to be fine. However it seems this time I was unlucky!
Moral of the story: While the XZU is waterproof(ish)... don't take it in the pool unless you don't care about the phone too much! There is a fair chance it will not survive. Personally I'm now hoping the old "leave it in a bag of rice" trick will help.
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if it is just the volume rocker buttons it should survive, good luck
It was always dubious to me all this waterproof hype
Sad to hear this happend
It's ironic how they show ads for the XZU getting toyed around in a swimming pool yet the official documentation states that the phone not be submerged in the swimming pool, sea water, solventents etc.
Sorry to hear. I took mine in the pool several times and did not have any problems. Though I did not submerge it for more than a few seconds at a time.
I was unimpressed, as the touchscreen was nigh impossible to use with wet hands. They should have included a dedicated camera button like on the smaller xperias.
Folks around me were impressed though. They could not believe I had the audacity to bring a phone anywhere near water.
I wonder how many dead S5 there has been from water?
There's a reason why it's not rated the same as a divers' watch. IPxx ratings vs NEMAxx ratings. I just lol-ed when I saw the rating, wondering how many people understand what's the meaning, what it takes to pass the test (to be able to say it's rated for it). Same goes with waterproof professional DSLRs and lenses, and how most end up broken out of warranty. Ask me how I know..
Quick update on this: The phone remained screwed for a LONG time, but in the end it is now once again working fine! :good: I had to leave the phone in a bag of rice for a week before the power/volume buttons began working properly and the phone stopped rebooting. The power button is still a little unresponsive even now, but at least the phone is back to full working order. :good:
coming from a xperia z and expecting my z ultra today(SO EXCITED, HURRY UPS !) this has me a little concerned.
im not the type to go into a pool with my phone, or even show off to my friends that i can dump my phone into a glass of water(whats so practical about that?) but i am the type to rinse my phone under the faucet probably once a day.
with my xperia z, before i knew about the gap problem in the glass i would do this, and it caused water damage.
i want to be able to wash my xperia z ultra under water without having any concerns!
asadkhanduhh said:
coming from a xperia z and expecting my z ultra today(SO EXCITED, HURRY UPS !) this has me a little concerned.
im not the type to go into a pool with my phone, or even show off to my friends that i can dump my phone into a glass of water(whats so practical about that?) but i am the type to rinse my phone under the faucet probably once a day.
with my xperia z, before i knew about the gap problem in the glass i would do this, and it caused water damage.
i want to be able to wash my xperia z ultra under water without having any concerns!
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Why the need to wash every day?
Mine has been damp (rain) a few times, and properly wet twice (videos of giant kokopu).
I wouldn't trashed mine swimming or into the shower, but I do exist it to survive in a steamy kitchen or bathroom, or an outer pocket when it rains. Being able to play Ingress and not worry about a few spots of rain is nice.
So let's start the discussions with Hi . Im pretty sure many of the Z2 here love to take pictures underwater.But some of the models give moisture on the lens and the PHONE IS 100% IN PERFECT CONDITION. after the action underwater.So why does this happens even when the phone on normal temperature before dipping it under water(Tap water for example). Can anyone explain?
Z2 ended up being shipped with ALOT of faulty units so water resistancy is hit and miss for this device
Not so much with other xperias but it still can happen due to sony finding out that the company who tested water resistancy didnt do it properly
(Aka dipping it in a tank of water and leaving it)
Everyone Participate Please
I'm about to buy this phone so just wanted to make sure if anyone had issues with waterproofing or water test fails like previous Xperia phones.
Please give me your experience with this device in wet conditions
So far I have found the Z5C has way better waterproofing than the z3c, as you are not needing to move the flap to charge the phone all the time
I have used my phone in the ocean (even though it is not specifically designed to be used in the ocean) and washed it off with fresh water afterwards multiple times, and it works like a charn, no leaks or condensation
@nzzane
Great to hear!
Headphones and sound issues till dries
Also, a kind of obvious note. You will have to wait till the phone dries to charge it, and sound quality will be a bit muffled due to the water (until it dries)
@smardu @nzzane
I can live with that
ill recommend to put duct tape on the string hole
i found on my test water can enter from there only
@Superrman
Are the string hole and flaps connected like open tunnel between them (considered faulty units)?
showers, rinses(not washing machine, just tap or hose), thunderstorms A+ for this phone so far!
Sound does get muffled in direct spray and the occasional water drop changes the song lol but all in all had the phone for a year and could sell it as NEW if needed
@Tingles
I guess Sony waterproof smartphones are getting better and better!
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I ran mine under a tap and five minutes later the screen stopped working lol.
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I ran mine under a tap and five minutes later the screen stopped working lol.
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Were you able to fix it?
Waterproof??
Yea so I got my z5c back from repair and somehow I damaged the screen with water when running it under a tap. So I guess mine wasn't that waterproof...
avionisasian said:
Yea so I got my z5c back from repair and somehow I damaged the screen with water when running it under a tap. So I guess mine wasn't that waterproof...
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Our device has these ratings
IP6X. Dust tight.
IPX5. Protected against low-pressure water jet spray for at least 3 minutes.
IPX8. Protected against the effects of continued immersion in water at depths greater than 1 metre. The exact conditions are specified for each device by the manufacturer.
Here's the address for proper precautions for our device, plus some other info.
http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/dm/waterproof/
Although now that you have had it repaired I would be a little more delicate with that device.:fingers-crossed:
When your phone gets opened, generally consider it to lose its water proofness. However I have been able multiple times using hot glue to perfectly seal it again.
Remember there's an easy and reliable way to check if your Xperia is water proof: Xperia Water Resistance Test
Hey guys.
I registered few minutes ago. Because i need say really important thing to you. I tried to take photos under the water. Depth was only 30cm. My phone started to say water moistorizing in usb. After that it started to charging slowly. I went to authorized lg service. They said water disrupt on your usb and they take my 45$. My cameras glass broken. My luck. So they said your back glass can broken while we are opening your phone. It is really bull****. I am trying to tell do not interact your phone with water.
Edit: Guys my phone came back. And still it is not fixed. What should i do? I want destroy their service.
My phone still have problem. It is not charging if it is charging with fast charging. I mean if there is fast charging logo on battery. It stops charging and adapter making not charging noise(Sound after full charge or no phone plugged). And it is disconnecting and reconnecting(charging logo going then it is appearing again. Stopping and starting i mean).
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Hey guys.
I registered few minutes ago. Because i need say really important thing to you. I tried to take photos under the water. Depth was only 30cm. My phone started to say water moistorizing in usb. After that it started to charging slowly. I went to authorized lg service. They said water disrupt on your usb and they take my 45$. My cameras glass broken. My luck. So they said your back glass can broken while we are opening your phone. It is really bull****. I am trying to tell do not interact your phone with water.
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Rule of dumb when having a water resistant phone, even if it's water resistant, still avoid water getting on it.
A car has airbags for safety, doesn't mean go wreck it to see if they work ctfu..
aSuperSaiyanG0D said:
Rule of dumb when having a water resistant phone, even if it's water resistant, still avoid water getting on it.
A car has airbags for safety, doesn't mean go wreck it to see if they work ctfu..
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I do not agree, If the phone is IP 68. So you can be use it underwater.
vip-nord said:
I do not agree, If the phone is IP 68. So you can be use it underwater.
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Ya know what?
Try it out, let me know how it goes.
It works perfectly underwater the recorded video and the taken photos then let it dry for at least 1 hour even the done air with the mouth to draw the water that has inside the loading port.
- I'm sorry but I speak Spanish and I use google translator
The phone is NOT water proof.
It's water resistant, there is a huge difference.
It's meant for accidents, not really for taking it underwater for pictures.
I used my g6 in pool, I was there about 2 hours and phone was at least 20 minutes underwater in total.
Recorded some videos, made a lot of photos. Everything works perfectly, after I came back home I let it dry in rice, after about 2 hours I restarted it and there is no problems till now at all. It was 4-5 months ago
basicreece said:
The phone is NOT water proof.
It's water resistant, there is a huge difference.
It's meant for accidents, not really for taking it underwater for pictures.
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According LG UK website,the phone is IP 68 :
http://www.lg.com/uk/support/solutions/mobile/lg-g6-dust-and-water-resistance-ip68
"The second digit is 8: protection against water in complete and continuous immersion. Devicewill withstand a complete immersion in water up to 1.5 meters for 30 minutes. Water temperature can vary from 15 to 35ºC."
So the phone has to work after complete immersion. Otherwise it's misleading advertising
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According LG UK website,the phone is IP 68 :
http://www.lg.com/uk/support/solutions/mobile/lg-g6-dust-and-water-resistance-ip68
"The second digit is 8: protection against water in complete and continuous immersion. Devicewill withstand a complete immersion in water up to 1.5 meters for 30 minutes. Water temperature can vary from 15 to 35ºC."
So the phone has to work after complete immersion. Otherwise it's misleading advertising
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If you can find where is states "waterproof" and not "water resistant" I'll buy you a new G6.
I repair phones for a living. These companies pick their words very carefully.
@Red2Kit In my case depth was about 200-250cm and it's still working perfectly without any issues.
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@Red2Kit In my case depth was about 200-250cm and it's still working perfectly without any issues.
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I think it is my luckiness but i dont understand why phone stopping charge if it get in to fast charge.
Water Resistant
I have taken my G6 swimming with me several times, mostly been fine.
I also had the "moisture detected" error, but I was able to solve it by rinsing out the charging port with distilled water, and using something like a toothpick to rub the usb pins clean in the port while the water was in it.
After that I blew it out and let it dry for a while, and charging fixed.
I think dirt or salt builds up on the USB pins and causes a false moisture detection.
I think normal there is not word to say. LG say clear: The Phone is for Water until 1,5m and not longer then 30mins. What is the Problem in the discription? And the word "waterproof" is not shown even the word "water resist" So it is useless to compare both cause LG not use one of These words Right? The Phone is Ready for 1,50 sweet Water and 30mins. end
LGG6Fan said:
I think normal there is not word to say. LG say clear: The Phone is for Water until 1,5m and not longer then 30mins. What is the Problem in the discription? And the word "waterproof" is not shown even the word "water resist" So it is useless to compare both cause LG not use one of These words Right? The Phone is Ready for 1,50 sweet Water and 30mins. end
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Lg says "no guarantee will be applied in case of damage related to water" so end
The IP68 rating means the phone was gently placed in a clean fresh water tank 1.5m deep for 30 minutes. It was not used or moved during that time.
Using or moving the phone underwater can create stresses on the phone and the seals. This can lead to water penetration. Exposure to pool water, salt water, drinks, etc is different and my lead to penetration.
Many watches are labeled for water resistance, which is very different than waterproof. Google a guide to water resistant ratings for watches, and you will find that the depth rating is very mis-leading. Not to mention that the rating is not good forever. The seals can and do degrade over time, so that after some time, the device is no longer water resistant.
I used my phone multiple times in the sea , salty water ! And it is working perfectly fine
Used mine in the Blue Lagoon in Iceland. Spent loads of time in and under water. Still working perfectly.
I used my g6 under water in a pool, I had it in my pocket and it was submerged for at least 3-4 hours continuously. I took photos and recorded videos with it. I didn't even let it dry. After a 1 hour drive home I immediately plugged it in and it didn't even say that there is moisture into the usb port. And I usually take it with me when I'm swimming twice a week. I have been doing this for 6 months now and it still works perfectly. Ops phone was probably a defective unit.
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I regularly wash my phone with tap water, then wipe it with LCD screen cleaner and leave it to dry for like... 30 minutes in direct sun or in warm place (not hot!).
I had "moisture detected" a couple of times but usually it went away after some time.
Never, I repeat, NEVER be that dumb like me - I washed my Xperia Z3 Compact many times, as well as my G6... but I accidentally used soap while cleaning G6 once and it was almost a disaster... It took HOURS for the water to dry off my USB port, bottom and front speaker, also from my headphone jack as soap changes how water behaves... I thought I killed it but it is perfectly fine now... but think twice