This may be such an unusual use case that it hasn't been an issue for anyone other than me, but here's to hoping for a solution...
I've just bought a new car (2015 Honda Fit) which has a decent size LCD panel in the dash (but I opted not to get the expensive navigation system) and which also has full bluetooth integration and, surprisingly, an HDMI port for the screen. HDMI is one of the "source" settings, and Bluetooth is a separate one.
I've paired my Nexus 5 to the car in order to take and make phone calls and get the other integration features such as music and podcast playback over the car's audio. I had this idea that if I were to run the Nexus 5 through the large screen using HDMI (via a Slimport adapter), I can have a much nicer Google Maps based navigation system that would give something close enough to the experience of the in-dash nav system minus the touchscreen -- which is fine, as I can set the route, put the phone in a cupholder, and not bother with it again.
Now, here's the fatal snag. While the phone is paired to bluetooth, it insists on sending 100% of its audio through Bluetooth and doesn't send it through HDMI. The car is either-or on the sources. If it's on HDMI, it only plays back HDMI. The screen displays exactly as I hoped -- but no audio at all (again, it's going to Bluetooth). Now, I can switch over to Bluetooth and hear the sound but not get the display. I could kill the pairing to get both through HDMI, but now I lose the ability to receive calls over bluetooth with the handy steering wheel call answering and all of the amenities associated with that.
I'm wondering if there is some kind of workaround -- Android configuration that I've somehow never noticed, or a third party app -- which will allow the Nexus 5 to remain paired and actively Bluetooth connected while still sending audio through the HDMI port (Slimport). I don't see that this would as likely be a car-side solution.
The Nexus 5 is rooted stock 4.3.3.
Thank you in advance for help toward a solution.
qaelith.2112 said:
This may be such an unusual use case that it hasn't been an issue for anyone other than me, but here's to hoping for a solution...
I've just bought a new car (2015 Honda Fit) which has a decent size LCD panel in the dash (but I opted not to get the expensive navigation system) and which also has full bluetooth integration and, surprisingly, an HDMI port for the screen. HDMI is one of the "source" settings, and Bluetooth is a separate one.
I've paired my Nexus 5 to the car in order to take and make phone calls and get the other integration features such as music and podcast playback over the car's audio. I had this idea that if I were to run the Nexus 5 through the large screen using HDMI (via a Slimport adapter), I can have a much nicer Google Maps based navigation system that would give something close enough to the experience of the in-dash nav system minus the touchscreen -- which is fine, as I can set the route, put the phone in a cupholder, and not bother with it again.
Now, here's the fatal snag. While the phone is paired to bluetooth, it insists on sending 100% of its audio through Bluetooth and doesn't send it through HDMI. The car is either-or on the sources. If it's on HDMI, it only plays back HDMI. The screen displays exactly as I hoped -- but no audio at all (again, it's going to Bluetooth). Now, I can switch over to Bluetooth and hear the sound but not get the display. I could kill the pairing to get both through HDMI, but now I lose the ability to receive calls over bluetooth with the handy steering wheel call answering and all of the amenities associated with that.
I'm wondering if there is some kind of workaround -- Android configuration that I've somehow never noticed, or a third party app -- which will allow the Nexus 5 to remain paired and actively Bluetooth connected while still sending audio through the HDMI port (Slimport). I don't see that this would as likely be a car-side solution.
The Nexus 5 is rooted stock 4.3.3.
Thank you in advance for help toward a solution.
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I can't help ith your situation, but I'm wondering if you can help with mine. I also just bought the 2015 Honda Fit. What I want to be able to do is mirror my Galaxy S4 to the screen for navigation purposes. But from what I understand, it will only work in Park. I don't have the cable yet and did't want to buy it unless I knew it would work.
For a quick test, I plugged a roku stick in the HDMI port. As expected, it worked fine until I put the car in gear. Then the display gets disabled. Does this happen with phone mirroring? Would I be able to actually use google maps and see it while in motion or will the screen shut off? What does and doesnt work with mirroring?
samseed101 said:
I can't help ith your situation, but I'm wondering if you can help with mine. I also just bought the 2015 Honda Fit. What I want to be able to do is mirror my Galaxy S4 to the screen for navigation purposes. But from what I understand, it will only work in Park. I don't have the cable yet and did't want to buy it unless I knew it would work.
For a quick test, I plugged a roku stick in the HDMI port. As expected, it worked fine until I put the car in gear. Then the display gets disabled. Does this happen with phone mirroring? Would I be able to actually use google maps and see it while in motion or will the screen shut off? What does and doesnt work with mirroring?
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This behavior of the HDMI port / display actually became a far bigger problem than how to route the sound. I had been doing all of my testing with the car sitting in the garage, and because I wasn't ever able to get the sound to do what I needed, I didn't bother to go drive around with HDMI display enabled. I confirmed through this and consulting the manual that for "safety reasons" they have entirely disabled the HDMI input while the car is not in park. Unfortunately, I'd guess this is coded in the system's firmware which most of us aren't going to have a way to tamper with, so this is a fatal problem for what we're both looking to do. I was confident that there was probably some sort of solution to making audio go over both channels, but that's irrelevant in light of this problem.
So to summarize, I'll suggest not bothering with the Slimport (or the other kind of interface, if that's what your phone uses) because it will certainly be utterly useless for this and I don't foresee a solution. It looks like this thread is therefore dead. Thank you for bringing this to my attention, though -- I'd have continued working toward an audio solution and then discovered this bigger problem once I solved that one. You just saved me from wasting a lot of time.
samseed101 said:
I can't help ith your situation, but I'm wondering if you can help with mine. I also just bought the 2015 Honda Fit. What I want to be able to do is mirror my Galaxy S4 to the screen for navigation purposes. But from what I understand, it will only work in Park. I don't have the cable yet and did't want to buy it unless I knew it would work.
For a quick test, I plugged a roku stick in the HDMI port. As expected, it worked fine until I put the car in gear. Then the display gets disabled. Does this happen with phone mirroring? Would I be able to actually use google maps and see it while in motion or will the screen shut off? What does and doesnt work with mirroring?
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One more thought (stating the obvious, I suppose) -- We've been hamstrung by the assumption that everyone is going to be using the display to watch movies while driving, even though we have excellent reasons which would actually make it safer (an easier to see navigation display). I guess Honda is mitigating lawsuits from the would-be idiots who might actually be watching American Idol episodes while driving to work.
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hi!
I just ordered an asus eee tab transformer for my car, as car entertainment system and navigation system. I am planing to invest some time o modify the hardware of the car to fit the tab optimately in.
One thing I'd like to do is to let the car command the tab for boot and shutdown. I am thinking of using the asus docking station interface of the tab but I have no pinout of this connector at the moment. Can anybody help here?
Maybe it is also possible to throw typical "next", "back", "play", "stop", ... commands? I am expecting an serial interface or something similar. Since I am an routined embedded developer, with a pinout this should be no problem.
The second thing is maybe a software thing.
I have an bluetooth car radio which supports one connection at the same time. The Idea was to use the Tab with bluetooth a2dp but with this connection all calls on my bluetooth phone are ignored. Is there something to establish a android to android bluetooth connection where the tap plays the roll of a bluetooth a2dp headset.
So for music and navigation:
Tab <-> CarRadio
For phone calls:
Phone <-> Tab <-> CarRadio
The other thing is, can the android tablet keep 2 bluetooth connections at the same time from the hardware point of view?
Ok, I think I wrote enough for now ^^
Hope somebody can help with any information.
interested in this
+1
me too
maybe someone has a good link to the asus support?
oops, sorry
fpdragon said:
hi!
I just ordered an asus eee tab transformer for my car, as car entertainment system and navigation system. I am planing to invest some time o modify the hardware of the car to fit the tab optimately in.
One thing I'd like to do is to let the car command the tab for boot and shutdown. I am thinking of using the asus docking station interface of the tab but I have no pinout of this connector at the moment. Can anybody help here?
Maybe it is also possible to throw typical "next", "back", "play", "stop", ... commands? I am expecting an serial interface or something similar. Since I am an routined embedded developer, with a pinout this should be no problem.
The second thing is maybe a software thing.
I have an bluetooth car radio which supports one connection at the same time. The Idea was to use the Tab with bluetooth a2dp but with this connection all calls on my bluetooth phone are ignored. Is there something to establish a android to android bluetooth connection where the tap plays the roll of a bluetooth a2dp headset.
So for music and navigation:
Tab <-> CarRadio
For phone calls:
Phone <-> Tab <-> CarRadio
The other thing is, can the android tablet keep 2 bluetooth connections at the same time from the hardware point of view?
Ok, I think I wrote enough for now ^^
Hope somebody can help with any information.
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Something to consider when designing.
Not sure if this is going to be a permanent install or not. But you can easily set up your audio through the Hdmi instead of burning battery with your Bluetooth. At least you can still use your phone through the Bluetooth. You can also incorporate other monitors in other parts of the car. I was speaking to a car audio shop for this type of install myself a few weeks ago. I will try to get more details and report back. Was waiting for the desktop docking station to come out to really run with it.
tonyz3 said:
Something to consider when designing.
Not sure if this is going to be a permanent install or not. But you can easily set up your audio through the Hdmi instead of burning battery with your Bluetooth. At least you can still use your phone through the Bluetooth. You can also incorporate other monitors in other parts of the car. I was speaking to a car audio shop for this type of install myself a few weeks ago. I will try to get more details and report back. Was waiting for the desktop docking station to come out to really run with it.
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Thanks...
Bluetooth battery burn would be no problem since I want to load the battery over the car. Anyway... I'm afraid that there won't be something like a "bluetooth router" so I have to use the analog audio out. That brings me to my first question: I need the pinout of the asus connector to control the tab over the steering wheel control.
I don't think anyone's figured out a pinout yet, and even if they do, it wont be as simple as "this contact is for play, this one is for skip, etc". All those most likely go through a usb interface. Not that that would be impossible, but if you're using bluetooth your headunit should support AVRCP for sending those commands over bluetooth. Most android devices only support 1.0 right now, but that still gives you play/pause, stop, next, previous, maybe ff and rewind too.
As an embedded developer here follows one idea that maybe can help you.
Why not using all via BT, I will say you prob looking for some BT support inside the kernel. If you find a similar application using linux (google it), maybe you can ported it to the transformer. Compiling the kernel with new drivers is very easy, then u just need to get into the software part.
Have fun.
Narog said:
As an embedded developer here follows one idea that maybe can help you.
Why not using all via BT, I will say you prob looking for some BT support inside the kernel. If you find a similar application using linux (google it), maybe you can ported it to the transformer. Compiling the kernel with new drivers is very easy, then u just need to get into the software part.
Have fun.
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Thanks for your post!
I was thinking about a similar idea. Bluetooth could be an alternative but with bluetooth it won't be possible to switch the device on. So I tried to find a pinout and maybe I have luck to command a power on. Anyway... Right now BT seems the more realistic way, you're right.
Narog said:
As an embedded developer here follows one idea that maybe can help you.
Why not using all via BT, I will say you prob looking for some BT support inside the kernel. If you find a similar application using linux (google it), maybe you can ported it to the transformer. Compiling the kernel with new drivers is very easy, then u just need to get into the software part.
Have fun.
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Android and the TF already support A2DP audio streaming and AVRCP remote control over bluetooth, there's nothing that needs to be done here. I'm pretty sure its only AVRCP 1.0 though, which only supports the basic controls (play, pause, stop, next, previous, etc). The newer versions also do things like metadata, so you can see on your headunit what song is playing.
I can say from experience that working with improving BT support in android is not easy after I spent a fair amount of time banging my head against the wall trying to add MAP support to CM7. In any case, without HC source it would be impossible to do here anyway.
fpdragon said:
Thanks for your post!
I was thinking about a similar idea. Bluetooth could be an alternative but with bluetooth it won't be possible to switch the device on. So I tried to find a pinout and maybe I have luck to command a power on. Anyway... Right now BT seems the more realistic way, you're right.
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I'd bet that there's no way to power it up over the dock connector since the keyboard dock doesn't support it.
maxpower47 said:
I'd bet that there's no way to power it up over the dock connector since the keyboard dock doesn't support it.
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Power it up maybe not, but wake it up certainly. If you allow the unit to be in deep sleep when you open the dock it wakes the unit. And as long as you are constantly feeding a small amount of power to it to keep it fully charged it shouldn't be a big deal. Maybe tear down a dock to provide an extra battery to the unit and perhaps the circuitry you need for wake on start of the car. I don't play with hardware so not sure what this would do but it seems it should be possible since it already does this to an extent.
captmiddy said:
Power it up maybe not, but wake it up certainly. If you allow the unit to be in deep sleep when you open the dock it wakes the unit. And as long as you are constantly feeding a small amount of power to it to keep it fully charged it shouldn't be a big deal. Maybe tear down a dock to provide an extra battery to the unit and perhaps the circuitry you need for wake on start of the car. I don't play with hardware so not sure what this would do but it seems it should be possible since it already does this to an extent.
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Thanks Tor Your post...
Im Not sure hat this "deep sleep" is. is this the same like when i press the power button shortly on the tab or another power mode?
I have no dock and I wanted to save my money and not buy it.
[Q] a few questions about conflicting threads & info
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1) is there a working hdmi cable yet?
i have read several posts saying there isnt and several that said there is (and where to get if there is one)
2) the bluetooth audio conection to the newer stereo head units work with my gtablet, but can i have both the stereo and bluetooth gps reciever working at the same time?
any advice and info on blutooth car audio is wanted, needed and appreciated.
3) is there any way to get a screen filter or overlay to increase visibility in sunlight?
4) can the gtablet dock be torn apart and packed in a smaller case to be used in a car dash install?
p.s you guys are great for tablet manufactures whether they know it or not! i wouldnt purchase a tablet not listed and supported on this web site, period. keep up the incredible work
I can only answer question number one. Yes there is an hdmi cable that will work. http://electroniccrap.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_10&products_id=27. Does it work depends on a few things. Some hdtv sets it works just fine, others maybe not so much. I have 2 tvs in my house. The big one in the living room works just fine. The set in my bedroom I get picture fine but the sound only plays out of the tablet. So basically your mileage may vary. The only downside for me with this cable is it's only 3ft long so it's really short. But it works. Maybe.
Does anyone have any experience/recommendations for an Android-based car stereo head unit? My old stereo has just died, so I am interested in what people think of the currently available ones. I have a double din space.
eBay seems to have several available that are similar to this: http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/15/ca-fi-is-an-aftermarket-android-car-stereo-that-wont-fit-in-you/
There are ones where the Android part is essentially a separate tablet (probably not what I'm after, judging by the videos) http://www.erisin.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=253
Parrot make this single-din stereo: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Parrot-Aste...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1343930713&sr=1-24
There are no doubt many others too. Prices seem to be in the £200 - £280 range which is about my limit.
Nobody has any experience of these or opinions at all?
I think I'm leaning towards the Parrot as it's rootable, and the single-din size is more likely to fit whatever car I get after my current one.
Bump for this thread. I just recently thought about getting into one of these units too, my only concern is how "locked down" they would be in terms of getting rid of their default launchers and crap they have. I basically want a way to just have android by itself running on the car - I can get apps for just about everything else. Ideally I want a clone of my phone on the car that would sync with my phone. Or better yet, simply a way to have a "remote display" for my phone. That way, anything I'm doing on the car side of things would be the same on my phone, like a received email, new internet bookmark, or something like that.
~T.J.
I just picked up a "Road Cyberman" from China Jiaho (actually they call it something else, but it's the same as Chinavasion's Road Cyberman, except $100 cheaper).
It's running Gingerbread 2.3.5 and proving difficult to root. No adb on the usb (even with debug option), no google apps (although I found some apks that sort of work) and no adb wireless available.
The devices works fine, but I would like to have a little bit more control over it.
I've tried Gingerbreak and the other get root apks, but no luck so far.
Yeah, I have seen a lot of those units, but I kind of changed my mind. I have recently been looking into doing something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q-UXDi3dm3U
I have been following that company for a while, and they just recently released that video and are taking pre-orders for the new board. My biggest hold up at this point is that I would like to use a single DIN stereo for the "amp" by running the audio from their device into the aux input of my existing stereo. I need to find room to mount both the double DIN screen and a custom spot for the single DIN stereo I already have. I would then have the choice of using the stereo without plugging in the phone if I didn't want to for whatever reason. Alternatively, if I can find a good FM tuner app for my phone and a good customizable dock mode, I could eliminate the stock stereo and just run the inputs into a standard automotive 4 channel amp. This of course means you get nothing for a car stereo unless you connect the phone though, unlike the other plan.
Of course, another thought I had was getting a used double DIN touch screen DVD player and using their interface board to convert it to run the Android screen through it, then run the audio straight into the aux input of the touch screen DVD player. That way you have the ability to use the system "as is" out of the box, OR run the Android device through the screen. I think this is the best option, but it also takes the most money since you have the expense of the used double DIN touch screen unit first. I also wonder about picture quality and touch screen sensitivity with the built in touch screens on those units.
Anyway, just food for thought!
~T.J.
EDIT: One of the other hold ups is the calling. I would like to use an external mic and have audio come through the car speakers, currently using that board you are still calling through the device, thus you would need a Bluetooth headset from my understanding. I would like to avoid that if possible also. This is another good reason to go with the double DIN stereo since some of those support Bluetooth calling already and you could probably make/receive calls that way completely hands free.
EDIT #2: If you were into car monitoring and such also, you could easily get a bluetooth OBD interface and run the software on the phone (such as torque) so you could display live data from your car on your dash also. Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay-ZvTn3fLo&t=45s
I picked up one of these after my buddy sent me this thread. It's got the power, but needs a root bad. Wish I knew how to find root for an Android device.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17228
Any idea if this would work?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Hifimediy-Sa...n_0&hash=item20cb2a3799&_uhb=1#ht_1314wt_1271
if combined with this:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Usb-type-A-f...s=63&clkid=4859388797714287148#ht_1424wt_1037
And this:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Micro-USB-ha...ies&hash=item2eb8f6c584&_uhb=1#ht_4275wt_1037
I'm trying to make a one-connection, more or less universal, high quality audio and charger set up for my truck. Since the DAC is USB powered i'm not sure where the power would come from in this case. The phone or that adapter. I just like the simplicity of this unit for what i am doing (it's all going in my dash).
EDIT: I took the plunge and ordered a bunch of bits that SHOULD work (a UCA202 was cheaper, so ordered it). I'll take pics and document the setup and installation, post it all when its ready. It'll take a few weeks for the stuff to get here.
What are you trying to do? Give yourself an entertainment centre in your truck?
What I have done in my truck is use a Bluetooth stereo for streaming all audio from my HTC. If I were to install one HDMI screen I could have HD TV.
For charging, I just use a USB adapter in the cigarette lighter. Make sure you get one capable of outputting 1A or more, and also fools the phone into thinking it's connected to the mains.
When at a festival the other year, I used the tailgate as a makeshift bar, and the phone was streaming music over Bluetooth. I also had the stereo remote to control the volume, and used the air conditioning to chill some drinks. Although, will use a mini fridge next time as I used a shed loads of Diesel
I have a pioneer head ( http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/CD-Receivers/FH-P8000BT ) and an iBolt cradle. What I was hoping for was to use USB to provide power and use a DAC to get better sound quality from the tunes that I get over bluetooth. This deck also has an auxiliary in on the back, but trying to avoid using the amped headphone out. I went with this deck because of the connection options and didn't care about touch screens. That's what my HOX+ or Nexus 7 are for. So having a single USB connection for everything would be great. Pretty much the only thing that iFail devices have on us.
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Here is my start. I didn't get the DAC yet, and I need to wait for USB OTG with Charging before I can, but the set up is ready for it!
Sure looks good, but I'm unsure how the sound quality will be, I'm not sure how the DAC works by accessing the USB.. Does it just see it as a USB storage device? If you're playing MP3's anyway, why not just stream over Bluetooth. Once the track is digital, Idon't think that you would want to convert to analogue unless it's playing it directly.
Are your MP3's a decent bit-rate? I have never had an issue with MP3's over Bluetooth. I normally download weekly music podcasts and stream those.
I'm gonna chime in hear and say just bought the pioneer Afh x5500, and although my EVO LTE streams spotify and stock music player over Bluetooth, it does not send track info whatsoever. My note 2 did but, I prefer the EVO. So, I'm waiting for the 8500 to come in now because it has hdmi input onboard so it should be able to take hdmi to mhl and then perform correctly. As well as apradio functions. Anyone have any experience with this? Or, does anyone know how to get Bluetooth to stream song/album info to the head unit?
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One of the #1 reasons I got the HOX+ was the 64GB storage for my FLAC collection. Originally this concept I started while I had the Galaxy S3, which with a kernel and CM 10 can enable the DAC output while allowing the device to still recieve the charge.
That said, the deck you mentioned with HDMI might just do the trick too. And it really would be universal. Hmm.... I like this deck (It was old when I got it) because I don't really care for touch/dvd in my dash. This has a big rotary control knob, and I even have the lights turn off at night so I just control everything from the phone (except Volume). But i'll look into the one you suggest.
Anyway. This set up will do the trick for now. I hard wired the charger and AUX into the stereo harness so it looks clean and stock. I doubt I'll really tell much of difference anyway without the DAC at this point. I'm not getting any line noise like I thought I might.
Well, ill write back after I get the new deck. I'm really hoping for all functions or ill have to figure something else out...
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OP, any update on whether the DAC and cable worked with the HOX+?
I'm interested in getting a DAC to work with my high impedance in ear monitors. The driver in the phone doesn't have enough output power to adequately drive them.
I've just bought a great Bluetooth Speaker to use with my Nexus 4 and it works great. Because it was fairly cheap I went and got another in the hopes that I could connect both speakers to my N4 and output audio simultaneously to both speakers at the same time. I quickly discovered this isn't currently "working" or even possible.
After a lot of Googling, I found an app on the Play store that supposedly let me connect both at the same time but it doesn't output audio to both speakers (I get "static" from the second one). There are also conflicting opinions about whether this is even possible with the current Bluetooth spec although it does mention multicast support and all I could find are various workarounds that involved using a secondary bluetooth transmitter etc.
So can anyone tell me if there is any software/hack (root needed or otherwise) that would allow configuring audio to be streamed/output to two connected bluetooth speakers simultaneously? Others have suggested it for use with bluetooth headsets. It seems if someone could hack/crack this it would be very useful to a lot of people. Maybe even a good idea for someone with the knowledge for a paid-for app. Any ideas? Would really appreciate some feedback on this - even if it's not actually possible - some technical explanation would be great.
Thanks!
I am also interested in this and the possibility of a Bluetooth hack.
Any luck?
Just wondering if you found any solution for this? I also wants to use multiple bluetooth speakers simultaneously with Android phone...
I would definitely pay for this ability
I'm not sure if it's possible with bluetooth, but if someone could make it happen I would definitely be willing to part with some money for that app/ability.
alsheron said:
So can anyone tell me if there is any software/hack (root needed or otherwise) that would allow configuring audio to be streamed/output to two connected bluetooth speakers simultaneously? Others have suggested it for use with bluetooth headsets. It seems if someone could hack/crack this it would be very useful to a lot of people. Maybe even a good idea for someone with the knowledge for a paid-for app. Any ideas? Would really appreciate some feedback on this - even if it's not actually possible - some technical explanation would be great.
Thanks!
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I'm going to try combining two devices from amazon and see if I can send bluetooth audio from my phone to 2 separate (and different models) TDK bluetooth speakers. I will let you know what I discover once they arrive.
First Device:
Monoprice 109722 Bluetooth Transmitter and Splitter http://amzn.com/B00AJHAYCS
According to the description and reviews this device can transmit a bluetooth signal to 2 devices simultaneously. Amazon says this takes 2-4 weeks to ship, so it will be a little before I get to test this out. If it does work it's still a pain because I'll have this hanging from the bottom of my phone. That's why I'm also going to try combining this device with another bluetooth device.
Second Device:
Mpow® Portable Bluetooth 3.0 Audio Music Streaming Receiver http://amzn.com/B008AGQMQC
My plan is to try pairing this with my phone, and then plugging the Monoprice Splitter into the output on this receiver. I'm expecting some loss of sound quality with all these connections, but as long as it isn't too bad the freedom to walk around with my phone might be worth it.
I'm not sure why a single device that merges the capabilities of these two devices into a single body and shared battery hasn't been created. Through all my searching online I feel like such a device would be well received.
ESdesigns said:
I'm going to try combining two devices from amazon and see if I can send bluetooth audio from my phone to 2 separate (and different models) TDK bluetooth speakers. I will let you know what I discover once they arrive.
First Device:
Monoprice 109722 Bluetooth Transmitter and Splitter http://amzn.com/B00AJHAYCS
According to the description and reviews this device can transmit a bluetooth signal to 2 devices simultaneously. Amazon says this takes 2-4 weeks to ship, so it will be a little before I get to test this out. If it does work it's still a pain because I'll have this hanging from the bottom of my phone. That's why I'm also going to try combining this device with another bluetooth device.
Second Device:
Mpow® Portable Bluetooth 3.0 Audio Music Streaming Receiver http://amzn.com/B008AGQMQC
My plan is to try pairing this with my phone, and then plugging the Monoprice Splitter into the output on this receiver. I'm expecting some loss of sound quality with all these connections, but as long as it isn't too bad the freedom to walk around with my phone might be worth it.
I'm not sure why a single device that merges the capabilities of these two devices into a single body and shared battery hasn't been created. Through all my searching online I feel like such a device would be well received.
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no ****. as long as bluetooth has been around, you would think that they would have fixed this by now. what is the use of having a wireless connection that only can connect to one thing at a time. it's beyond moronic, it's submoronic. who wants to listen to one speaker at a time, when throughout history, we have always used at least two speakers, and many times more. you would think even the idiots who make bluetooth speakers, would at least have the ability to hardwire another speaker to the one which is using bluetooth. i have never been more disappointed in a technology than i am with bluetooth.
Bluetooth Multicast Streaming Comming!
stevae said:
no ****. as long as bluetooth has been around, you would think that they would have fixed this by now. what is the use of having a wireless connection that only can connect to one thing at a time. it's beyond moronic, it's submoronic. who wants to listen to one speaker at a time, when throughout history, we have always used at least two speakers, and many times more. you would think even the idiots who make bluetooth speakers, would at least have the ability to hardwire another speaker to the one which is using bluetooth. i have never been more disappointed in a technology than i am with bluetooth.
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The reason why bluetooth doesn't support Multicast is because it doesn't have the bandwith to support High Quality streaming simultaneously no would the chips really having the processing power but that could be fixed, but the main limitation is the lack of available bandwith specified in the 802.11 standard for bluetooth.
However future successors to bluetooth will likely have support for Multicast streaming such as 802.15.3a which is being co-developed by Intel, Sony, Philips, Texas Instruments, Samsung. Though the bad news is, it won't be to market for probably another 2-3 years :/
ESdesigns said:
I'm going to try combining two devices from amazon and see if I can send bluetooth audio from my phone to 2 separate (and different models) TDK bluetooth speakers. I will let you know what I discover once they arrive.
First Device:
Monoprice 109722 Bluetooth Transmitter and Splitter http://amzn.com/B00AJHAYCS
According to the description and reviews this device can transmit a bluetooth signal to 2 devices simultaneously. Amazon says this takes 2-4 weeks to ship, so it will be a little before I get to test this out. If it does work it's still a pain because I'll have this hanging from the bottom of my phone. That's why I'm also going to try combining this device with another bluetooth device.
Second Device:
Mpow® Portable Bluetooth 3.0 Audio Music Streaming Receiver http://amzn.com/B008AGQMQC
My plan is to try pairing this with my phone, and then plugging the Monoprice Splitter into the output on this receiver. I'm expecting some loss of sound quality with all these connections, but as long as it isn't too bad the freedom to walk around with my phone might be worth it.
I'm not sure why a single device that merges the capabilities of these two devices into a single body and shared battery hasn't been created. Through all my searching online I feel like such a device would be well received.
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UPDATE: I have received and tested both of these products from amazon. Good news and bad news. Good news, both of these devices work well on their own and do what they are advertised to do. I'm particularly impressed with the Monoprice 109722 Bluetooth Transmitter and Splitter http://amzn.com/B00AJHAYCS. When plugged into the headphone jack of my phone or tablet it sends audio to two different bluetooth speakers simultaneously and the audio is synced very well (not perfect, but for the price it's very good). The bad news, when combined (to create a true wireless system) a decent amount of distortion is introduced which is not heard when using each of these products by themselves. I'm not sure if it's interference from the different bluetooth connections, because the physical connections seem to work fine when used separately. It sounds like you're listening to FM radio where the station isn't quite tuned in right, just some static along with the music. It's not horrible, but it's no where near the quality that you get from a typical bluetooth connection. I might try using another stereo cable between these two devices and see if adding more space between them helps at all. I'm open to any other suggestions. This is close to be a solution for now, but not quite. If you don't mind having the Monoprice dongle hanging from you phone or tablet, the sound quality coming from both speakers is very good.
Hi folks...has there been any progress on this subject?
I am thinking about setting up a whole house, always listening, google now / voice command network using a couple of bluetooth speakerphones and an older android phone. The more speakerphones I can spread around the house the more coverage I would have.
https://www.kickstarter.com/project...ooth-audio-on-two-different-speak/description
But no aptX supported yet
Multicast & Broadcast Capabilities
The feature that you are looking for is under development and called it "Multicast & Broadcast Capabilities". use cases: Allows multiple users to listen to the same stream. Supports mono and stereo.
this is the latest update "v4.2 and CSSv5 Update"
What program you found on the market?
yes there is one , i bought beats pills its bluetooth speaker which can pair its own added speakers , like if you add few more it will extend the bluetooth range and operate togeather , beside that it has got out let jack too for more , it comes in few sizes i think XL too which is biger bcz smaller ones may not have that bass u wud like
why not try a bluetooth speaker with led light color changing
Why not try a bluetooth speaker with led light color changing, it is very nice and smart.
Where is the best place for the public to show how much they want this and then for manufacturers to see it?
Amazon has a solution - Still waiting on an App
amazon.com/gp/product/B0169TWV8O?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_1&smid=A1C41W6V7R1EVA
Tempow built into the Moto x4 is the solution
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XxCLAMSxX said:
Tempow built into the Moto x4 is the solution
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The custom Bluetooth stack allows a single Bluetooth transmitter to broadcast to up to 4 devices simultaneously.