I have tried and tried to install a custom recovery to flash a rom but failed. Eventually I learned that the only way to flash a rom on a locked bootloader is to use safe strap but still failed to install the recovery system with safe strap. Does anyone know of anyway to install a custom recovery to flash a rom or to flash a rom without custom recovery (maybe with a computer)?
shammafox said:
I have tried and tried to install a custom recovery to flash a rom but failed. Eventually I learned that the only way to flash a rom on a locked bootloader is to use safe strap but still failed to install the recovery system with safe strap. Does anyone know of anyway to install a custom recovery to flash a rom or to flash a rom without custom recovery (maybe with a computer)?
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basic research would clearly show what choices you have.
this stickie should have been your first stop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
Thanks
decaturbob said:
basic research would clearly show what choices you have.
this stickie should have been your first stop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
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do u think there will be a method in the future to work around the locked boot loader and install cmw or twrp?
shammafox said:
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do u think there will be a method in the future to work around the locked boot loader and install cmw or twrp?
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been looked at for a year with little luck but you never know. I'm not holding my breath. Fortunately safestrap has allowed me to run some pretty decent ROMS capable of alot of customization so I'm not too terribly put out.
decaturbob said:
been looked at for a year with little luck but you never know. I'm not holding my breath. Fortunately safestrap has allowed me to run some pretty decent ROMS capable of alot of customization so I'm not too terribly put out.
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is there a safestrap compatible rom that is running something close or plain vanilla android?
shammafox said:
is there a safestrap compatible rom that is running something close or plain vanilla android?
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Your only options right now are Touchwiz based ROMs. No plain vanilla AOSP.
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shammafox said:
is there a safestrap compatible rom that is running something close or plain vanilla android?
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again, if you go to the link provided if gives you all the information you need
shammafox said:
is there a safestrap compatible rom that is running something close or plain vanilla android?
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Yes there is. Eclipse from Nitro is a touchwiz ROM that is heavily themed to look like AOSP. He extensively tests his ROMs so you won't see updates often but you can be sure that when he does release an update it will be rock solid.
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I rooted and unlocked on mdk then installed a stock me7 rom only.
I like cm waaaay better than tw but still use tw Roms because I use the mhl and other Samsung specific things often.
Could I use safestrap to "multiboot" so I can use a cm rom as a daily driver and boot to tw if I want any Samsung specifics?
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reinaldistic said:
I rooted and unlocked on mdk then installed a stock me7 rom only.
I like cm waaaay better than tw but still use tw Roms because I use the mhl and other Samsung specific things often.
Could I use safestrap to "multiboot" so I can use a cm rom as a daily driver and boot to tw if I want any Samsung specifics?
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YOu can use multiple rom slots, but thats gonna take up a lot of space.
ppat324wi said:
YOu can use multiple rom slots, but thats gonna take up a lot of space.
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Right my main question I guess was can I use it even though I'm unlocked and it's meant for locked me7
Also does it allow boot into the stock so that I only have to safestrap cm
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reinaldistic said:
Right my main question I guess was can I use it even though I'm unlocked and it's meant for locked me7
Also does it allow boot into the stock so that I only have to safestrap cm
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Yes, there shouldnt be any problem, and safestrap basically creates another system. So you could keep tw as your main system, and when you need to use cm, boot into it from recovery. But I HIGHLY (note the caps) recommend you keep tw as your main system, and cm as the safe system. If you use cm as your main system, if any errors occur, your kinda screwed.
I believe as of right now, the kernels in the rom slots have to be the same as the kernel on the stock side. Hash did say he was going look into finding a way for those of us on MDK to flash kernels to rom slots, but as of right now it isn't possible.
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I believe as of right now, the kernels in the rom slots have to be the same as the kernel on the stock side. Hash did say he was going look into finding a way for those of us on MDK to flash kernels to rom slots, but as of right now it isn't possible.
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Then how did some people flash cm on a rom slot when they originally are running stock tw with stock kernel?
ppat324wi said:
Then how did some people flash cm on a rom slot when they originally are running stock tw with stock kernel?
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I haven't seen anyone say that they have been able to do that. Maybe I missed something?
Since there is no current custom recovery working for MK2 can I simply rename the file to update.Zip like the old days and run it? Or will I risk a soft brick like I did trying to flash a custom recovery? My stock ROM is stupid laggy so I'd really like to OC a bit and hopefully smooth things out. I found a 4.3 based kernel (Chronic) but not sure if it's set up for OEM 4.3 or only custom ROM's. TIA for any insight.
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Since there is no current custom recovery working for MK2 can I simply rename the file to update.Zip like the old days and run it? Or will I risk a soft brick like I did trying to flash a custom recovery? My stock ROM is stupid laggy so I'd really like to OC a bit and hopefully smooth things out. I found a 4.3 based kernel (Chronic) but not sure if it's set up for OEM 4.3 or only custom ROM's. TIA for any insight.
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unless your running MDK you can not flash kernels to the stock ROM. This is because the kernels wont match and will cause a brick.
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unless your running MDK you can not flash kernels to the stock ROM. This is because the kernels wont match and will cause a brick.
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I was afraid of that.
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Sniper_5 said:
Since there is no current custom recovery working for MK2 can I simply rename the file to update.Zip like the old days and run it? Or will I risk a soft brick like I did trying to flash a custom recovery? My stock ROM is stupid laggy so I'd really like to OC a bit and hopefully smooth things out. I found a 4.3 based kernel (Chronic) but not sure if it's set up for OEM 4.3 or only custom ROM's. TIA for any insight.
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plenty of discussions on what you can and can't do with S4's and custom Roms/Kernels here in these forums. The only choice you will be having and its not ready yet as its in development, will be to load safestrap and ROMS that will be compatible with it. Hashcode is porting over to the 4.3/4.4 base, the version of safestrap he developed for MEJ/MI1 users a couple of months ago. He is in the testing /development stage. I would suggest reading the safestrap threads to gain some insight in preparation of this becoming a reality.
I am trying to Flash this custom Rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2343355
To my VZW SGS4, I can not find the MD5 file to use Odin. When I reboot into recovery its not showing the file, I've tried search youtube for help and read through a lot of the comments most say something about Safestrap? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm coming from the world of apple for the past 5 years so this is new to me. Odin has been a huge help by restoring the stock rom when I mess it up haha.
What base are you. Unless you are mdk and loki'd....you can't flash....unless you are me7 or mi1 with safestrap....read the appropriate threads...
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armyofsquirrels said:
I am trying to Flash this custom Rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2343355
To my VZW SGS4, I can not find the MD5 file to use Odin. When I reboot into recovery its not showing the file, I've tried search youtube for help and read through a lot of the comments most say something about Safestrap? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm coming from the world of apple for the past 5 years so this is new to me. Odin has been a huge help by restoring the stock rom when I mess it up haha.
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also are you using odin to flash roms, or are you using a custom recovery? (cause it sounds like your using odin to flash custom roms, witch is a no no)
Mtsprite said:
also are you using odin to flash roms, or are you using a custom recovery? (cause it sounds like your using odin to flash custom roms, witch is a no no)
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as a base I'm ME7, I don't have a custom recovery that I know of? Why is it bad to use Odin to flash a custom rom?
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as a base I'm ME7, I don't have a custom recovery that I know of? Why is it bad to use Odin to flash a custom rom?
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ME7.... You need Safestrap. No custom recovery. Only 4.2 TW based ROMs. As far as Odin, I don't know why it's bad. I just know it doesn't work.
Research, research, research. You will save yourself a lot of headaches.
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as a base I'm ME7, I don't have a custom recovery that I know of? Why is it bad to use Odin to flash a custom rom?
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odin is used to update phone base firmware...a custom recovery is used to flash roms....these threads are filled with those who either wouldn't research what they needed to know or ignored what many were trying to tell them
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odin is used to update phone base firmware...a custom recovery is used to flash roms....these threads are filled with those who either wouldn't research what they needed to know or ignored what many were trying to tell them
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I ended up using Safestrap to flash the roms. Just never updated this post. Thank you all for your help.
Hello guys,
Instead of flashing the near stock 4.4.2 ROM and then using Odin to flash CSc and ap, could I flash a 4.4.2 ROM like eclipse and then flash stuff in Odin?
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Hello guys,
Instead of flashing the near stock 4.4.2 ROM and then using Odin to flash CSc and ap, could I flash a 4.4.2 ROM like eclipse and then flash stuff in Odin?
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If I'm not mistaken it has to have a compatible custom kernel first. I would be interested in knowing for sure too. I know little about MDK but would like to learn enough to 1. not brick it, 2. not lose MDK and the loki exploit. Is there a thread dealing just with MDK? What to do and not to do for a noob?
Tulsadiver said:
If I'm not mistaken it has to have a compatible custom kernel first. I would be interested in knowing for sure too. I know little about MDK but would like to learn enough to 1. not brick it, 2. not lose MDK and the loki exploit. Is there a thread dealing just with MDK? What to do and not to do for a noob?
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nope, I'm talking about the mk2 to nc5 method from surge. I'm wondering if I have to flash the 4.4.2 ROM within the thread, or if I could flash another 4.4.2 ROM.
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If I'm not mistaken it has to have a compatible custom kernel first. I would be interested in knowing for sure too. I know little about MDK but would like to learn enough to 1. not brick it, 2. not lose MDK and the loki exploit. Is there a thread dealing just with MDK? What to do and not to do for a noob?
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Anyone running a build beyond MDK has Kernel Lock and the ROMs that users can flash are using the stock kernel... There were a few instances where the kernel was lightly modified but nothing big.... I'm not 100% about the OPs question though myself since I'm in fact on MDK...
As far as what to know for MDK... The two biggest things to remember are to NEVER take an OTA while on Stock MDK Touchwiz and to NEVER use any other Odin file other than MDK... Other than those two things anything else is pretty much fair game.
You need to just root stock MDK with Motochopper then once it's rooted freeze SDM with TiBu then I suggest using Flashify to install your recovery of choice.
Once those 3 steps are done.... Make a backup of stock MDK and your into flashing !
You won't " lose" your Loki'd MDK if you do those steps before anything else whenever coming from stock via Odin.
Other than possibly flashing a bad download ROM zip or something... The only other issue I've ever ran into was flashing a kernel that didn't have the Loki patch. That will send you to the " Unauthorized Software Detected" screen at boot. Even then no worries since you can hop back into recovery and restore or try again. For situations like that someone made up the Loki Doki zip that you can flash say after flashing the Alucard Kernel. which is meant for the i9505 S4 and that will Lokify it for you.
Good practice would to be just flash either KToonsez Kernel or Alucard Kernel ( + Loki Doki with Alucard ) if you're flashing a ROM you're not to sure about.
All AOSP roms that are for " JFLTE" can detect they our bootloader requires the Loki Patch and it will take care of that during the flash automatically.
If you have any other questions feel free to shoot me a PM or ask here... Never a problem
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MisterTac, thanks for the super response. Lots of people would just say, "read up on it". I've got a couple of dumb questions. Can you flash virtually any Verizon rom? I have a hard time distinguishing between roms if it doesn't say specifically that it is for MDK. Another question is if you can't flash kernels, what exactly makes the MDK so much better than being on Safestrap (especially with all the roms Gigilie has ported)? One more thing, in your opinion what are the top five or so best roms that you can run with an MDK that you can't on Safestrap. I know you aren't really supposed to ask about best roms but I wanted to see what the difference was. Do you have to flash via odin or can you just install via recovery?
Miui
Tulsadiver said:
MisterTac, thanks for the super response. Lots of people would just say, "read up on it". I've got a couple of dumb questions. Can you flash virtually any Verizon rom? I have a hard time distinguishing between roms if it doesn't say specifically that it is for MDK. Another question is if you can't flash kernels, what exactly makes the MDK so much better than being on Safestrap (especially with all the roms Gigilie has ported)? One more thing, in your opinion what are the top five or so best roms that you can run with an MDK that you can't on Safestrap. I know you aren't really supposed to ask about best roms but I wanted to see what the difference was. Do you have to flash via odin or can you just install via recovery?
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You can most of the time flash any Verizon ROM whether it's for SafeStrap or MDK. Jrkruse also has a patch so that you can flash just about any i9505 Touchwiz ROM as well. And for AOSP ROMs like Cyanogen or Slim or the 100 other ROMs based off those you're good to flash any of them since most of them are Unified JFLTE builds that are for all LTE S4's on any carrier.
MDK is " better " or more flexible in that we can flash Custom Kernels. SafeStrap you cannot as of now. That gives you way more control over your phone. SafeStrap also only has a couple AOSP ROMs that somehow are working with it.... Where again... Our MDK ones can easily flash aosp ROMs without issue.
All these ROMs are going to be flashed through your custom recovery... Twrp or CWM. And I suggest using Flashify to install your custom recovery.
My top picks for stability and features that work best for me are currently SlimSaberKat, Mahdi, Liquid Smooth, C ROM and OSE. You're right there is no Best ROM... You'll have to just try them on your own but I'll edit this post with a couple links to these ROMs for you...
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SlimSaberKat
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52865834
C ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51369881
Here's the JFLTE Unified Forum with some ROMs that will all work
http://img3.media.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/unified-development
I'm not much help with Touchwiz however... I'm an AOSP guy
Here's the KToonsez Kernel thread for our phone too. Awesome kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41798673
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Mistertac said:
Miui
You can most of the time flash any Verizon ROM whether it's for SafeStrap or MDK. Jrkruse also has a patch so that you can flash just about any i9505 Touchwiz ROM as well. And for AOSP ROMs like Cyanogen or Slim or the 100 other ROMs based off those you're good to flash any of them since most of them are Unified JFLTE builds that are for all LTE S4's on any carrier.
MDK is " better " or more flexible in that we can flash Custom Kernels. SafeStrap you cannot as of now. That gives you way more control over your phone. SafeStrap also only has a couple AOSP ROMs that somehow are working with it.... Where again... Our MDK ones can easily flash aosp ROMs without issue.
All these ROMs are going to be flashed through your custom recovery... Twrp or CWM. And I suggest using Flashify to install your custom recovery.
My top picks for stability and features that work best for me are currently SlimSaberKat, Mahdi, Liquid Smooth, C ROM and OSE. You're right there is no Best ROM... You'll have to just try them on your own but I'll edit this post with a couple links to these ROMs for you...
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SlimSaberKat
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52865834
C ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51369881
Here's the JFLTE Unified Forum with some ROMs that will all work
http://img3.media.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/unified-development
I'm not much help with Touchwiz however... I'm an AOSP guy
Here's the KToonsez Kernel thread for our phone too. Awesome kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41798673
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My last dumb question for a while. You can use Safestrap with MDK? If so why (to get the slots) and what version?
Tulsadiver said:
My last dumb question for a while. You can use Safestrap with MDK? If so why (to get the slots) and what version?
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Well I guess technically you could although I don't see why anyone would want to other than using it for ROM slots yes.
I haven't ran into anyone on here I don't think either with a Verizon or ATT S4 that could run a true Custom Recovery and opted for SafeStrap.
In CWM I can wipe my current ROM and restore a backup I've made in like 2 minutes tops... so the space you'd potentially lose on your internal memory having multiple ROMs loaded with SafeStrap really isn't worth it when in 2 minutes you can just wipe and restore ya know? Just my opinion
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Mistertac said:
Well I guess technically you could although I don't see why anyone would want to other than using it for ROM slots yes.
I haven't ran into anyone on here I don't think either with a Verizon or ATT S4 that could run a true Custom Recovery and opted for SafeStrap.
In CWM I can wipe my current ROM and restore a backup I've made in like 2 minutes tops... so the space you'd potentially lose on your internal memory having multiple ROMs loaded with SafeStrap really isn't worth it when in 2 minutes you can just wipe and restore ya know? Just my opinion
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How can I change from TWRP to CWM?
Tulsadiver said:
How can I change from TWRP to CWM?
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Just flash in recovery like any other zip. Here is Philz Touch CWM .
https://www.dropbox.com/s/odxykfc1dch3d7a/philz_touch_6.48.4-jflte.zip
Flash that then reboot to recovery from within your current TWRP and you'll have your CWM.
If you want just regular CWM you could use Flashify from the play store. Philz is the same thing but has few more options and in my opinion why not have more right?
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Mistertac said:
Just flash in recovery like any other zip. Here is Philz Touch CWM .
https://www.dropbox.com/s/odxykfc1dch3d7a/philz_touch_6.48.4-jflte.zip
Flash that then reboot to recovery from within your current TWRP and you'll have your CWM.
If you want just regular CWM you could use Flashify from the play store. Philz is the same thing but has few more options and in my opinion why not have more right?
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Thank you. You've been a great help.
Tulsadiver said:
Thank you. You've been a great help.
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Never a problem... Feel free to PM if too if you need something.
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Just so there no confusion, I'm using a previous thread to keep the litter at a minimum.
Is this possible? If I understand correctly, the locked bootloader prevents us from flashing a custom recovery and a custom kernal and cm11 and similar roms all run custom kernal. .is it possible to flash the rom and then boot into download mode and Odin a stock kernal or would it be incompatible with the rom? Any help would be appreciated. I really want cm11, aokp, aosp or something of the sort. The Google rom just isn't for me.
brd912 said:
What's the difference? Can they be flashed with safestrap? Out of the roms I've scanned through the only one I really like that I knew for sure could be flashed with safestrap is hyperdrive. I'm just wondering what my options are..anyone?
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Unified builds are just builds that can be flashed on any carrier.
So they will work for our S4?
brd912 said:
So they will work for our S4?
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Yep, you will still need an MDK bootloader for aosp/aokp.
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Yep, you will still need an MDK bootloader for aosp/aokp.
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Ahh. Thanks
Bump for the edit on the post. Figured I'd just rename the thread instead of creating a new one.