Just so there no confusion, I'm using a previous thread to keep the litter at a minimum.
Is this possible? If I understand correctly, the locked bootloader prevents us from flashing a custom recovery and a custom kernal and cm11 and similar roms all run custom kernal. .is it possible to flash the rom and then boot into download mode and Odin a stock kernal or would it be incompatible with the rom? Any help would be appreciated. I really want cm11, aokp, aosp or something of the sort. The Google rom just isn't for me.
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What's the difference? Can they be flashed with safestrap? Out of the roms I've scanned through the only one I really like that I knew for sure could be flashed with safestrap is hyperdrive. I'm just wondering what my options are..anyone?
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Unified builds are just builds that can be flashed on any carrier.
So they will work for our S4?
brd912 said:
So they will work for our S4?
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Yep, you will still need an MDK bootloader for aosp/aokp.
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Yep, you will still need an MDK bootloader for aosp/aokp.
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Ahh. Thanks
Bump for the edit on the post. Figured I'd just rename the thread instead of creating a new one.
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I currently have stock rom and recovery and kernel rooted and want cwm so I can finally get a custom rom installed ^^. How would I install cwm?
And how would I install this rom properly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301724
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I currently have stock rom and recovery and kernel rooted and want cwm so I can finally get a custom rom installed ^^. How would I install cwm?
And how would I install this rom properly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301724
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You can't. I suggest you look at some of threads talking about boot loaders.... Safestrap . mj7 is fully locked down. Hash code is working on porting his safestrap to work on 4.3 bases
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You can't. I suggest you look at some of threads talking about boot loaders.... Safestrap . mj7 is fully locked down. Hash code is working on porting his safestrap to work on 4.3 bases
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Damn how would I get to downgrading my 4.3? Is there a way I can use Odin?
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Damn how would I get to downgrading my 4.3? Is there a way I can use Odin?
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I'm not sure what you are asking. You want to go back to me7 or mi1? You definitely can't go back to mdk....
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lazepr said:
Damn how would I get to downgrading my 4.3? Is there a way I can use Odin?
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Verizon / Samsung has you by the SHs. You, my friend, are SOL for now. Better luck next time.
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I was able to I believe before to 4.2.2 using Odin but damn wish I would of known that I wouldn't updated to 4.3
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lazepr said:
I was able to I believe before to 4.2.2 using Odin but damn wish I would of known that I wouldn't updated to 4.3
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Sadly, this gets repeated over and over:
If you upgrade past MDK, you can't bypass the bootloader, which means you can't install custom recovery or custom kernels.
Once you install a release, you usually can't install any prior release (the only exception is that MK2 can be downgraded to MJ7).
What ROMs will work with MK2 Baseband?
Luke
lukesdiesel said:
What ROMs will work with MK2 Baseband?
Luke
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Depends, is phone a MK2 build or MDK? Many people get baseband and build number mixed up. They are not the same thing
If its MK2 build you can't load a recovery like TWRP or CWM as the bootloader, since MDK is fully lock down. You only option is safestrap and a handful of safestrap compatible ROMS.
plenty of info here that you need to know. Plenty of threads to digest
Mine is MK2 Build. It's already rooted with safestrap. So will any Safestrap ROM work? As long as I flash the MK2 add on?
Luke
lukesdiesel said:
Mine is MK2 Build. It's already rooted with safestrap. So will any Safestrap ROM work? As long as I flash the MK2 add on?
Luke
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Yes... And like he said there really are only a handful of safestrap ROMs... I'd suggest trying out hyper drive first and see how you like it.
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Mine is MK2 Build. It's already rooted with safestrap. So will any Safestrap ROM work? As long as I flash the MK2 add on?
Luke
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thats correct. If a ROM is safestrap compatible and you flash the kernel module associated with your build.
Please note, that hyperdrive has a SPECIFIC safestrap ROM, don't download the other one. I have tried everyone to date and still go back to HD12
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thats correct. If a ROM is safestrap compatible and you flash the kernel module associated with your build.
Please note, that hyperdrive has a SPECIFIC safestrap ROM, don't download the other one. I have tried everyone to date and still go back to HD12
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I'll second that...
Have tried all of them and keep going back to hyperdrive. It's definitely a great starting point.
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Thanks
Luke
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Thanks
Luke
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If you like the look of inverted, vanilla AOSP, look into Eclipse ROM. The developer, well known here, is nitroglycerine33. He is currently working on a Safestrap version of his Eclipse ROM so people like us with locked bootloaders can use his ROM. It has that beautiful AOSP look, and has really excellent battery life.
Cheers
I have tried and tried to install a custom recovery to flash a rom but failed. Eventually I learned that the only way to flash a rom on a locked bootloader is to use safe strap but still failed to install the recovery system with safe strap. Does anyone know of anyway to install a custom recovery to flash a rom or to flash a rom without custom recovery (maybe with a computer)?
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I have tried and tried to install a custom recovery to flash a rom but failed. Eventually I learned that the only way to flash a rom on a locked bootloader is to use safe strap but still failed to install the recovery system with safe strap. Does anyone know of anyway to install a custom recovery to flash a rom or to flash a rom without custom recovery (maybe with a computer)?
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basic research would clearly show what choices you have.
this stickie should have been your first stop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
Thanks
decaturbob said:
basic research would clearly show what choices you have.
this stickie should have been your first stop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
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thanks
do u think there will be a method in the future to work around the locked boot loader and install cmw or twrp?
shammafox said:
thanks
do u think there will be a method in the future to work around the locked boot loader and install cmw or twrp?
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been looked at for a year with little luck but you never know. I'm not holding my breath. Fortunately safestrap has allowed me to run some pretty decent ROMS capable of alot of customization so I'm not too terribly put out.
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been looked at for a year with little luck but you never know. I'm not holding my breath. Fortunately safestrap has allowed me to run some pretty decent ROMS capable of alot of customization so I'm not too terribly put out.
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is there a safestrap compatible rom that is running something close or plain vanilla android?
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is there a safestrap compatible rom that is running something close or plain vanilla android?
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Your only options right now are Touchwiz based ROMs. No plain vanilla AOSP.
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shammafox said:
is there a safestrap compatible rom that is running something close or plain vanilla android?
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again, if you go to the link provided if gives you all the information you need
shammafox said:
is there a safestrap compatible rom that is running something close or plain vanilla android?
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Yes there is. Eclipse from Nitro is a touchwiz ROM that is heavily themed to look like AOSP. He extensively tests his ROMs so you won't see updates often but you can be sure that when he does release an update it will be rock solid.
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Hello guys,
Instead of flashing the near stock 4.4.2 ROM and then using Odin to flash CSc and ap, could I flash a 4.4.2 ROM like eclipse and then flash stuff in Odin?
Raymondlikesroot said:
Hello guys,
Instead of flashing the near stock 4.4.2 ROM and then using Odin to flash CSc and ap, could I flash a 4.4.2 ROM like eclipse and then flash stuff in Odin?
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If I'm not mistaken it has to have a compatible custom kernel first. I would be interested in knowing for sure too. I know little about MDK but would like to learn enough to 1. not brick it, 2. not lose MDK and the loki exploit. Is there a thread dealing just with MDK? What to do and not to do for a noob?
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If I'm not mistaken it has to have a compatible custom kernel first. I would be interested in knowing for sure too. I know little about MDK but would like to learn enough to 1. not brick it, 2. not lose MDK and the loki exploit. Is there a thread dealing just with MDK? What to do and not to do for a noob?
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nope, I'm talking about the mk2 to nc5 method from surge. I'm wondering if I have to flash the 4.4.2 ROM within the thread, or if I could flash another 4.4.2 ROM.
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If I'm not mistaken it has to have a compatible custom kernel first. I would be interested in knowing for sure too. I know little about MDK but would like to learn enough to 1. not brick it, 2. not lose MDK and the loki exploit. Is there a thread dealing just with MDK? What to do and not to do for a noob?
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Anyone running a build beyond MDK has Kernel Lock and the ROMs that users can flash are using the stock kernel... There were a few instances where the kernel was lightly modified but nothing big.... I'm not 100% about the OPs question though myself since I'm in fact on MDK...
As far as what to know for MDK... The two biggest things to remember are to NEVER take an OTA while on Stock MDK Touchwiz and to NEVER use any other Odin file other than MDK... Other than those two things anything else is pretty much fair game.
You need to just root stock MDK with Motochopper then once it's rooted freeze SDM with TiBu then I suggest using Flashify to install your recovery of choice.
Once those 3 steps are done.... Make a backup of stock MDK and your into flashing !
You won't " lose" your Loki'd MDK if you do those steps before anything else whenever coming from stock via Odin.
Other than possibly flashing a bad download ROM zip or something... The only other issue I've ever ran into was flashing a kernel that didn't have the Loki patch. That will send you to the " Unauthorized Software Detected" screen at boot. Even then no worries since you can hop back into recovery and restore or try again. For situations like that someone made up the Loki Doki zip that you can flash say after flashing the Alucard Kernel. which is meant for the i9505 S4 and that will Lokify it for you.
Good practice would to be just flash either KToonsez Kernel or Alucard Kernel ( + Loki Doki with Alucard ) if you're flashing a ROM you're not to sure about.
All AOSP roms that are for " JFLTE" can detect they our bootloader requires the Loki Patch and it will take care of that during the flash automatically.
If you have any other questions feel free to shoot me a PM or ask here... Never a problem
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MisterTac, thanks for the super response. Lots of people would just say, "read up on it". I've got a couple of dumb questions. Can you flash virtually any Verizon rom? I have a hard time distinguishing between roms if it doesn't say specifically that it is for MDK. Another question is if you can't flash kernels, what exactly makes the MDK so much better than being on Safestrap (especially with all the roms Gigilie has ported)? One more thing, in your opinion what are the top five or so best roms that you can run with an MDK that you can't on Safestrap. I know you aren't really supposed to ask about best roms but I wanted to see what the difference was. Do you have to flash via odin or can you just install via recovery?
Miui
Tulsadiver said:
MisterTac, thanks for the super response. Lots of people would just say, "read up on it". I've got a couple of dumb questions. Can you flash virtually any Verizon rom? I have a hard time distinguishing between roms if it doesn't say specifically that it is for MDK. Another question is if you can't flash kernels, what exactly makes the MDK so much better than being on Safestrap (especially with all the roms Gigilie has ported)? One more thing, in your opinion what are the top five or so best roms that you can run with an MDK that you can't on Safestrap. I know you aren't really supposed to ask about best roms but I wanted to see what the difference was. Do you have to flash via odin or can you just install via recovery?
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You can most of the time flash any Verizon ROM whether it's for SafeStrap or MDK. Jrkruse also has a patch so that you can flash just about any i9505 Touchwiz ROM as well. And for AOSP ROMs like Cyanogen or Slim or the 100 other ROMs based off those you're good to flash any of them since most of them are Unified JFLTE builds that are for all LTE S4's on any carrier.
MDK is " better " or more flexible in that we can flash Custom Kernels. SafeStrap you cannot as of now. That gives you way more control over your phone. SafeStrap also only has a couple AOSP ROMs that somehow are working with it.... Where again... Our MDK ones can easily flash aosp ROMs without issue.
All these ROMs are going to be flashed through your custom recovery... Twrp or CWM. And I suggest using Flashify to install your custom recovery.
My top picks for stability and features that work best for me are currently SlimSaberKat, Mahdi, Liquid Smooth, C ROM and OSE. You're right there is no Best ROM... You'll have to just try them on your own but I'll edit this post with a couple links to these ROMs for you...
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SlimSaberKat
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52865834
C ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51369881
Here's the JFLTE Unified Forum with some ROMs that will all work
http://img3.media.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/unified-development
I'm not much help with Touchwiz however... I'm an AOSP guy
Here's the KToonsez Kernel thread for our phone too. Awesome kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41798673
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Mistertac said:
Miui
You can most of the time flash any Verizon ROM whether it's for SafeStrap or MDK. Jrkruse also has a patch so that you can flash just about any i9505 Touchwiz ROM as well. And for AOSP ROMs like Cyanogen or Slim or the 100 other ROMs based off those you're good to flash any of them since most of them are Unified JFLTE builds that are for all LTE S4's on any carrier.
MDK is " better " or more flexible in that we can flash Custom Kernels. SafeStrap you cannot as of now. That gives you way more control over your phone. SafeStrap also only has a couple AOSP ROMs that somehow are working with it.... Where again... Our MDK ones can easily flash aosp ROMs without issue.
All these ROMs are going to be flashed through your custom recovery... Twrp or CWM. And I suggest using Flashify to install your custom recovery.
My top picks for stability and features that work best for me are currently SlimSaberKat, Mahdi, Liquid Smooth, C ROM and OSE. You're right there is no Best ROM... You'll have to just try them on your own but I'll edit this post with a couple links to these ROMs for you...
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SlimSaberKat
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52865834
C ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51369881
Here's the JFLTE Unified Forum with some ROMs that will all work
http://img3.media.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/unified-development
I'm not much help with Touchwiz however... I'm an AOSP guy
Here's the KToonsez Kernel thread for our phone too. Awesome kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41798673
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My last dumb question for a while. You can use Safestrap with MDK? If so why (to get the slots) and what version?
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My last dumb question for a while. You can use Safestrap with MDK? If so why (to get the slots) and what version?
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Well I guess technically you could although I don't see why anyone would want to other than using it for ROM slots yes.
I haven't ran into anyone on here I don't think either with a Verizon or ATT S4 that could run a true Custom Recovery and opted for SafeStrap.
In CWM I can wipe my current ROM and restore a backup I've made in like 2 minutes tops... so the space you'd potentially lose on your internal memory having multiple ROMs loaded with SafeStrap really isn't worth it when in 2 minutes you can just wipe and restore ya know? Just my opinion
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Well I guess technically you could although I don't see why anyone would want to other than using it for ROM slots yes.
I haven't ran into anyone on here I don't think either with a Verizon or ATT S4 that could run a true Custom Recovery and opted for SafeStrap.
In CWM I can wipe my current ROM and restore a backup I've made in like 2 minutes tops... so the space you'd potentially lose on your internal memory having multiple ROMs loaded with SafeStrap really isn't worth it when in 2 minutes you can just wipe and restore ya know? Just my opinion
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How can I change from TWRP to CWM?
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How can I change from TWRP to CWM?
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Just flash in recovery like any other zip. Here is Philz Touch CWM .
https://www.dropbox.com/s/odxykfc1dch3d7a/philz_touch_6.48.4-jflte.zip
Flash that then reboot to recovery from within your current TWRP and you'll have your CWM.
If you want just regular CWM you could use Flashify from the play store. Philz is the same thing but has few more options and in my opinion why not have more right?
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Mistertac said:
Just flash in recovery like any other zip. Here is Philz Touch CWM .
https://www.dropbox.com/s/odxykfc1dch3d7a/philz_touch_6.48.4-jflte.zip
Flash that then reboot to recovery from within your current TWRP and you'll have your CWM.
If you want just regular CWM you could use Flashify from the play store. Philz is the same thing but has few more options and in my opinion why not have more right?
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Thank you. You've been a great help.
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Thank you. You've been a great help.
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Never a problem... Feel free to PM if too if you need something.
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This is a recovery flashable, stock boot.img, pulled from freeza's stock rooted rom, located here. It's completely unchanged from stock, I just made it flashable. After flashing, You may, or may not have to modify your build.prop to set secure storage to "false." See freeza's thread here, for more info on this.
Use this at your own risk, I assume no responsibility.
NH7 Kernel: NH7
MD5: 610f8d02cea6f2c1641da926ae07a7c4
Very nice! Thank you sir.. :thumbup:
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LouRock said:
Very nice! Thank you sir.. :thumbup:
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No prob, glad it helps.
Awesome thank you so much
What would be the benefit Of this
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Awesome thank you so much
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You're welcome
uknow said:
What would be the benefit Of this
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Numerous, for example, it will allow you to return to the stock kernel, for troubleshooting purposes, if you expect an incompatibility, or issue with a custom kernel, without having to flash an entire stock rooted rom, or downloading an entire rom, just for the boot image.
By the way I want to thank you for this its a blessing we have ppl who do this for us with that said im a noob should I flash this I have the nh7 modem I flashed the nh7 stockish rom then I restored my backup for sacs moar rom
i flashed the baseband/modem and that loaded fine. i then tried to flash the kernel and get stuck in a boot loop even after i tried the file to set to false. what can i be doing wrong?
anth75 said:
i flashed the baseband/modem and that loaded fine. i then tried to flash the kernel and get stuck in a boot loop even after i tried the file to set to false. what can i be doing wrong?
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Can you provide more info. If you were in a bootloop, how did you set the file to false? Did you flash the fix, in freeza's OP? If so, that's likely the problem. That build.prop is for a previous version.
I did flash the fix. How else can I get the new modem flashed without bootlooping? My modem/baseband is NH7. Just can get the NH7 stock kernel on without looping
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I did flash the fix. How else can I get the new modem flashed without bootlooping? My modem/baseband is NH7. Just can get the NH7 stock kernel on without looping
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I'm not sure what the issue is, I haven't run into this yet. To be absolutely clear, are you flashing the wifi/secure storage fix, from freeza's thread?
Yes as I read it would fix the boot loop. I tried without it and had no luck either.
anth75 said:
Yes as I read it would fix the boot loop. I tried without it and had no luck either.
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That's the problem. That fix is fo MJ4. Also, what rom are you on? I'm not sure if the NH7 kernel, is compatible with NC5 roms. I know for a fact, NC5 kernels, are incompatible with NH7 roms (no display).
Your best bet is to Odin the NC7 tar, if you want all NC7, or Odin NC7, and restore your TWRP backup, of your previous rom. Your baseband, will be NH7, but your kernel will be whatever was included in your previous/preferred rom.
I'm on sacs rom. My baseband/modem is currently NH7 and have no problems
Im also on sacs rom and nh7 kernel want make it past samsung screen just a heads up keep a updates back up before trying this
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Im also on sacs rom and nh7 kernel want make it past samsung screen just a heads up keep a updates back up before trying this
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Sacs rom is NC5 based. Use an NC5 compatible kernel.
LMMT said:
Sacs rom is NC5 based. Use an NC5 compatible kernel.
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Yeah I was reading your post and you said you wasn't sure so I check lol but anyways do you know where a stock nc5 kernel zip is?
uknow said:
Yeah I was reading your post and you said you wasn't sure so I check lol but anyways do you know where a stock nc5 kernel zip is?
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Yep, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51841373
leankernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46569112
There is also the great freeza's beastmode kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47338337