Hi ,
I recently broke my LG P880, and I'm looking for a new phone. From android phones I've chosen the Z2 - mainly cause of 3GB ram. The other phone I'm thinking about is IPhone 5S.
The main advantages of Z2 for me are: big screen, usage of good materials, android (ability of downloading a movie, finding a subbtitle, and watching it directly on Z2. No need to use a PC.)
Drawbacks: virtual screen buttons (I haven't used them much before), OVER-HEATING CAMERA (the biggest issue), quiet speaker, bad quality microphone.
Iphone's advantages: compact size, beautiful IOS and premium materials (no lag, hang, whatsoever), apps work better than on other devices, the best audio (as speakers and as the headphones)
Dis: simplicity of IOS (it can get boring after some time), I have to convert a movie before watching it on iphone, small screen, etc.
I'm looking forward hearing your opinions. Would you change your current Z2 for an Iphone 5S?
Have a nice day! :victory:
Battery on Z2 is enough to beat the hell out of 5s.
My friend use 5s and he has to keep it connected to powerbank almost all the time,hes a heavy browser.
I can easily go through 1.5 - 2 days with my Z2
Never fond of Apple products anyway. Owning an iphone is like coming from the royalty.Not much freedom as you get with android.
I never understand these threads. This is a Z2 forum, you're going to get a very biased answer. The forums are also a concentration of people's complaints about a device, not always reflective of the actual problems it has. Go out, do some research, try to get your hands on a Z2, if that isn't possible, do the best that you can and make the right decision for yourself. /rant
I doubt you'll get many responses in favor of the iPhone here. We've all made our choice clear.
I would try to get my hands on both devices to see which one you prefer. You like both the Z2's large screen and the iPhone's compactness. Hold them both and see which is more important. Find which apps you actually want and try to see whether the iOS and Android versions are different. I have both iOS and Android devices and I was very surprised to see that both iPhones (4s, 5s) and iPads (4) are not really all that much more stable than my Android (SGS2, SGS3, MK808B, Z2) devices. iOS devices can also lag. On the other hand, you can indeed find apps on iOS that, for example, let you download movies and subtitles without a PC. I use AVPlayerHD to FTP stream videos from a NAS server on my iPad. The best Android alternative that I've found can do that is VidOn Player, and it sucks in comparison.
My choice is xperia Z2 of course all features builtin are awesome
erectij said:
You like both the Z2's large screen and the iPhone's compactness.
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i know, right, talk about contradictions.
erectij said:
Hold them both and see which is more important.
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The size comparison is night & day between the two, If you like the compactness of the 5 it will take some getting used to with the z2. I cannot see it happeneing, unless one has serious reasons to dump apple.
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Find which apps you actually want and try to see whether the iOS and Android versions are different.
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And that' the final bit, which ecosytem are you tied to. Difficult for apple people to jump to android and vice versa. Paid apps are not going to work on the other.
none of these points have been mentioned by the OP at all, he needs to do more homework. Companies have all sorts of hooks to hold onto people and keep them in their own sand box.
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I use AVPlayerHD to FTP stream videos from a NAS server on my iPad. The best Android alternative that I've found can do that is VidOn Player, and it sucks in comparison.
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Dice player also allows to stream from an FTP server. why you would do it this way instead of DLNA i don't know. Course there is no DLNA for apple now is there :laugh:
I have both (5s is my daily driver, and I have the Z2 in the store I work at and have been playing with it for the last couple of days)
For me personally, I like the 5s because of it's size. I like to be able to comfortably use a phone with one hand. Battery life on the Z2 seems to be amazing, but I also have no issues with battery on my 5s(heavy usage I need to charge every couple of days, I also jailbroke it).
bikowalczyk said:
Hi ,
Would you change your current Z2 for an Iphone 5S?
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haha its like walking in addidas shop and asking which is better between nike and addidas... well if didn't liked Z2 then we wouldn't be here ... Z2 has fast processor, big screen, 20 MP camera, humongous ram, waterproof, better build quality than some of flagship device,large battery and the most important thing ability to root without unlocking bootloader.... And Iphone has.. small screen, one button, boring UI, crap Battery, Battery hungry processor, no waterproofing, and crap OS...
Like some other people are saying...you are really asking this question on the wrong forum. This forum is dedicated for android and windows phone. In addition, this is a Z2 sub-forum. Of course most people here will tell you Z2 is better
Anyway, I switched from iPhone 5 to Z2. iPhone 5 is not really that different to the 5s in terms of every day use. I hated pretty much all android devices (ugh, samsung, ugly and laggy UI, don't even get me started.) I had in the past except phones from the nexus line. Most of my paid apps are on my iPhone.
In general, iPhone is very restrictive on pretty much everything. You can't do this, you can't do that. If you have been on android for a while, switching to an iPhone is like going to a gaol. Sharing files on an iPhone has been a pain in the as* to me.
At the beginning I was missing my good old iPhone badly, but after I got used to the Z2 and got everything sorted on my device. I wouldn't want to go back to iPhone anytime soon.
iPhones pretty UI and compactness can easily be beaten by the Z2.
1. Bigger screen, I know you want a bigger screen to enjoy movies and pictures.
2. With bigger screen comes bigger battery
3. And an external SD card for extra storage for movies and files!
4. with 3 GB RAM, why do people still think Android is laggy. Hell no!
5. 8MP Superior Auto mode, hands down!
6. Because its Android, you can do whatever you want.
7. Because Apple is a hassle. Sending files via bluetooth is a pain in the ass.
I came from Samsung Galaxy S4, but i chose Sony this year because its a smarter and better choice than the S5 or M8. IPhone is way behind the game. Their marketing is just good.
I have z2 and if i have to choose between z2 and 5s now i will definitely choose 5s. Dobule tap on my z2 barely working and some games are lagging (gta 3, dead trigger 2, assassin's creed pirates, even asphalt 8 sometimes).
i have both, I like ios better notification of pushing to lock screen and extremely fast email push notification. z2 push email is very very slow when screen off, 1-2 min latency , sometimes 20 mins. overall, ios is easier and more user friendly. overall, IOS better than android IMO. but I love Z2 hardware design, so I use Z2 more often than 5s.
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In general, iPhone is very restrictive on pretty much everything. You can't do this, you can't do that. If you have been on android for a while, switching to an iPhone is like going to a gaol.
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Good way of putting it :laugh:
Why even compare them?
Spec wise there is only one winner. The z2 is far superior. Yes its not all about specs but I just think the iPhone 5s is not in the same league as the z2 or htc m8,s5,g3.
I mean for me personally I watch movies,tv shows and animes all the time on my z2
and I always make sure its in 1080p so the z2 really fits for me. The square and wide screen is perfect for movie viewing.
Whereas the iphone doesn't even seem to have a 720p screen and the screen is so thin and small it's pretty awful for any movies or tvshows.
I mean that's just one point.I have others too such as the battery being way way better. I mean 3400mah vs 1500 mah?
The z2 is much much better. Maybe you should wait for the iphone 6 before starting any sort of comparison thread.
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What's an iPhone? Is it a new Samsung?
where did you get the information that iphone has the best audio? my iphone 4 at the least has worse audio fidelity compared to my sony phone
It is old joke, any iPhone owner knows only one thing
iPhone is the best.
I was under the spell for many years, until I realized that Apple restricted me to own crappy technologies and literally blind me. I even couldn't think I can listen to SACD disks on iPhone I was so in low quality iTunes music, but now I enjoy SACD so much on Android. Poor Apple prisoners when you jailbreak?
I'd rather a Nokia 3310 over any iPhone. [emoji12]
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It is old joke, any iPhone owner knows only one thing
iPhone is the best.
I was under the spell for many years, until I realized that Apple restricted me to own crappy technologies and literally blind me. I even couldn't think I can listen to SACD disks on iPhone I was so in low quality iTunes music, but now I enjoy SACD so much on Android. Poor Apple prisoners when you jailbreak?
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Hey I jailbreaked my iPhone I'm so badass
My friends are huge apple fans and within an hour of being at their house with my new Z2, I had managed to convince one of them to swap their ipad for z1.
The phone is unbelievable, I've never had a phone with battery life so good, I took it off charge at 7:30am yesterday and I put it back on charge at half 10 with only 40% of the battery life gone.
I'd never own an iPhone, I hate the small screen, I hate the look of ios, I hate the people who own them, I hate everything about apple.
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I really dunno if i'm doing the right thing or not. I'm moving on from an HTC sensation with all the build quality and the sense UI glory; the company has to offer! To a sony xperia S
No doubt the phone rocks with mind-blowing specs :
amazing screen resolution,
advanced camera and finally a dedicated button for it,
an hdmi port,
thank god a usb on the go
and the long awaited nfc option for android
the drawbacks are not that fussy :
no sdcard (handling with built in internal memory avoids lags)
unremovable battery (i guess u change ur phone more often than changing the battery)
port covers (get used to by time)
camera very near to edge (hold the corners when taking pics)
power button near to earphone jack (use ur left hand to awake the device when connected to earphones)
what really concerns me is that sony ericsson devices never attracted me and a lot of people, is it because of the looks? durability? service? the dull timescape UI????? smartphone community interest in comparison with other lines like htc and samsung???
I know sony has divorced ericsson and it provides a new attitude, but the background..... u know what i mean?!
I just need assuring words for me and all the people out there thinking about this change!!
You can't go wrong with Sony phone it has the best speaker phone,phone ringer is loud does the function of a phone well aswell of a smartphone and PlayStation I have bought one in fact I have an iPhone 4s ,galaxy nexus ,Xperia play and a blackberry curve and the best is the Sony
Thanks
Sony/Ericsson never needed the best hardware to make their phones fly. And don't say anything about Timescape, at least in the opinion of a lot of people, it's FAR better then Sense (which I think is crap).
Sony don't need to appeal to giantic screens, or use a fake Beats (which improves a little, but not as much as xLoud), or use AMOLED screens (Bravia provides better colors, AMOLED have yellowish images), neither the best hardware., but they really know how to optimize their software to their hardware.
And, the best thing of all: The best designs. Nothing beats Xperia Arc or NXT Series design.
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I guess sony problem is perception.reviewer aren't too kind to sony.sony itself have apple "we know what best for you attitude" rather than giving what customer wanted.they won't use bleeding but buggy new tech.and sony sure as hell won't give u all thing in one,even for flagship.the arc have no ffc, sxs don't have white magic.
hardware wise its usually little bit better than the last iphone n nexus..thats turn a lot of people off..why buy single when u have dual core last yr.and why buy dual when u could get quad core this year.(but nvr realised all those power are useless as android os n apps can't utilities it)
What make me coming again n again to xperia is
1) it a phone..it primary use is to make call..however only Motorola n sony have exceptional call quality
2) its a multimedia device. Most important arescreen,sound and camera. Its where the xperia come 2nd to none.(don't know why people find multimedia device with ****ty sound and oversaturated screen is appealing.)
3)design:hardware n user interface have to look good..htc,sammy hardware and touchwizz n sense are damn to ugly for my taste.
4)support:sony are the only company that will upgrade all its 2011 phone.not three out of thousand of galaxy..and it support for developer is good..yes.there's a lack of developer for xperia device..but at least their rom work and aren't wayy too buggy.
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I came from a Samsung Galaxy S and while the samsung hardware is nice their software is terrible. You really need to tweak a samsung phone to fix the bugs or perform acceptable. Even the SGS2 has buggy stock software imo. With my xperia now I don't have to tweak to get good performance. I only miss root to remove some minor bloatware, block ads and restore backup.
Never had a HTC device because they were always mediocre and I don't like sense. But the new one x does look nice but is expensive and big. And the one s has little storage, lower resolution and a pentile screen. After the pentile screen of the sgs I will never take pentile again .
So my experiance is positive. Stock it runs better then the samsung phones. And in my opinion the ui looks much better then sense and touchwiz.
I think the lack of popularity in general is because of advertising, at least here. I see a lot of htc and samsung adds but no sony ads.
But you should try it out at a store and see if it fits your tastes.
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I came from a Samsung Galaxy S and while the samsung hardware is nice their software is terrible. You really need to tweak a samsung phone to fix the bugs or perform acceptable. Even the SGS2 has buggy stock software imo. With my xperia now I don't have to tweak to get good performance. I only miss root to remove some minor bloatware, block ads and restore backup.
Never had a HTC device because they were always mediocre and I don't like sense. But the new one x does look nice but is expensive and big. And the one s has little storage, lower resolution and a pentile screen. After the pentile screen of the sgs I will never take pentile again .
So my experiance is positive. Stock it runs better then the samsung phones. And in my opinion the ui looks much better then sense and touchwiz.
I think the lack of popularity in general is because of advertising, at least here. I see a lot of htc and samsung adds but no sony ads.
But you should try it out at a store and see if it fits your tastes.
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I had SGS 2 before i moved on to the sensation by the way, i dumped it coz i really got fed up from its software in spite of it being a really nice handset in every aspect!
I totally agree about the advertisement part! They should give a great deal of attention to it!
By the way sense is awesome, it's just bulky on a limited ram, but will miss it when i shift to the SXS !!
i changed from sensation to sgs 2 to lg p920 none of those were usable on stock for me, the sensation was ok but the camera ... seriously they call it a camera ? and the sense sucked most of the resources (ram/battery)
i was waiting for the SXS and am truely happy i did cause the phone experience is amazing and am still on stock , no root no custom rom, just stock as good as out of the box and the phone is flawless,
the camera takes amazing, sharp pictures without flash at the darkest nights
the battery lasts for more than a day for me with edge on/wifi on for the entire day with several calls and some casual gaming
and let me tell you about the screen, this is a piece of art, i love watching pics on that screen, its sharp, crisp and colors are amazingly perfect
as for the music , the sound is crisp and clear threw the stock headphones which i like more than any of my previous phones
i even add full HD movies on my phone and connect it to my TV threw HDMI cable and watch it , its fast it doesnt hang which is great and does the job right
plus in gaming am enjoying my old nice games like lane splitter and angry birds space/fruit ninja which runs pretty fast and no lags at all
the os itself is not buggy, i own the phone for 15 days now and i didnt encounter a hang or a bug yet
so i would definitely advise you to swap to one of those
After buying the SXS, I must say IT'S DEFINITELY THE RIGHT STEP!!!!!
Build quality is magnificent, stock software is superb and overall performance is outstanding!!!
Wow!!! Never expected it to be that way!
For all the people out there hesitating to get it, put on your clothes and drive off to the nearest dealer and buy it!!!
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After buying the SXS, I must say IT'S DEFINITELY THE RIGHT STEP!!!!!
Build quality is magnificent, stock software is superb and overall performance is outstanding!!!
Wow!!! Never expected it to be that way!
For all the people out there hesitating to get it, put on your clothes and drive off to the nearest dealer and buy it!!!
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Amazing phone
Sounds crazy but I am really happy there is no extra sd card slot, as this almost more than anything else is the reason why everything slows down. I do not need all my pictures movies and music. As soon as I take a pc or video it's uploaded to my sftp server and dropbox so always have copy. So with everything stored on the Internet ( no minor not the cloud just the Internet) local storage is not an issue.
Its why more devices are moving away from the sd cause of serious drain on resources especially if apps are moved to sd card so temptation is removed >:~}
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Yeah, the i/o is super fast. My friend with galaxy note tried to load some app and save some stuff and his comments were: huh? Its done?? Wtf??
R64 said:
I came from a Samsung Galaxy S and while the samsung hardware is nice their software is terrible. You really need to tweak a samsung phone to fix the bugs or perform acceptable. Even the SGS2 has buggy stock software imo. With my xperia now I don't have to tweak to get good performance. I only miss root to remove some minor bloatware, block ads and restore backup.
Never had a HTC device because they were always mediocre and I don't like sense. But the new one x does look nice but is expensive and big. And the one s has little storage, lower resolution and a pentile screen. After the pentile screen of the sgs I will never take pentile again .
So my experiance is positive. Stock it runs better then the samsung phones. And in my opinion the ui looks much better then sense and touchwiz.
I think the lack of popularity in general is because of advertising, at least here. I see a lot of htc and samsung adds but no sony ads.
But you should try it out at a store and see if it fits your tastes.
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I totally agree with the fact that sony doesn't do much advertising actually closer to nothing where I am... But this sets it apart from all the other manufactures and gives individuality to sony phones i.e people who have sony phones.
It's my first Sony smartphone, but i am more than happy of the choice i've made. The software it's so perfect that you really don't need to install anything from the market (i mean tools) The only thing i'm not so happy about is the usb port door...i'm afraid that in time it will break down and after that it will not have such a nice aspect, but if this will happen i will try to find a solution. I adviced already 4 people to buy this Sony smartphone (3 already bought the smartphone...1 to go ) and now i'm thinking of taking a Sony Tablet S gift for my girlfriend birthday. I come from HTC Desire HD and i've made this update because i needed a better camera...and i have to say that this Xperia S camera just blow all my expectations...just WOW !
Im debating leaving my 4S for android again and to me in terms of looks and features this and the one x look the best, now advantages this has over the x is 32gb internal (US version of x), 4.3 vs 4.7 (4.7 is huge!) and not sure what else, both sense 4 and xperia ui look great, both look awesome in design, both are dual core, both have fast data speeds and stuff like that. As for the one x it has only 16gb vs 32gb on the xperia s but the one x has LTE on att.
Anyway, for those of you with the XS, what are your thoughts overall? Happy with your purchase?
I'm interested in the Xperia S as well.
I will tell you I had a Euro HTC One X last month and sold it. The phone was very buggy. Not just a few but enough to make me sell it. Size wise it was fine, yes big and I have a iPhone 4S as well.
The AT&T version looked good, but I was just reading that users are only getting about 9 gigs after all the bloat wear and apps on the phone. Just not enough IMO.
So I'm temped to get the Xperia, no ICS, but the UI looks good and a good Launcher won't matter.
I like the camera features, though the One X had a few better features, like taking a pic while recording video.
Anyway any AT&T users of this phone, what's the verdict?
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I'm interested in the Xperia S as well.
I will tell you I had a Euro HTC One X last month and sold it. The phone was very buggy. Not just a few but enough to make me sell it. Size wise it was fine, yes big and I have a iPhone 4S as well.
The AT&T version looked good, but I was just reading that users are only getting about 9 gigs after all the bloat wear and apps on the phone. Just not enough IMO.
So I'm temped to get the Xperia, no ICS, but the UI looks good and a good Launcher won't matter.
I like the camera features, though the One X had a few better features, like taking a pic while recording video.
Anyway any AT&T users of this phone, what's the verdict?
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Hmm, interesting. I can always stay iphone as well, I have many apps and im sure the IP5 will have a nice res 4" screen, lte, better proc etc AND tons of memory (64gb ftw!), and say what you will but apple build quality is always A+
bothfly said:
I'm interested in the Xperia S as well.
I will tell you I had a Euro HTC One X last month and sold it. The phone was very buggy. Not just a few but enough to make me sell it. Size wise it was fine, yes big and I have a iPhone 4S as well.
The AT&T version looked good, but I was just reading that users are only getting about 9 gigs after all the bloat wear and apps on the phone. Just not enough IMO.
So I'm temped to get the Xperia, no ICS, but the UI looks good and a good Launcher won't matter.
I like the camera features, though the One X had a few better features, like taking a pic while recording video.
Anyway any AT&T users of this phone, what's the verdict?
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Taking pics while shooting video is an ICS thing. HTC is trying hard to make it their killer feature, but it actually isn't.
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For me personally having tested the one x as well, the xperia is a much better phone.
The two front runners are the xperia and the galaxy S3.
The one x has all the bells and whistles but fails to deliver, the galaxy S3 has doggy looks but delivers a great user experience while the xperia looks the best but only really delivers for the mainstream user. It's not a phone for the hardcore who always want the latest cutting edge specs.
All these phones are much much better than the toyish iPhone. Apple's problem isn't hardware but software. IOS is still just basically an app launcher and I don't believe that'll change much with IOS6.
Steve jobs stuck to the line that fluidity was better than sophistication. Google on the other hand opted for sophistication knowing fully well that hardware would catch up. Google have won there just as Microsoft did in the nineties.
IOS is so inferior to android that I just can't see them closing the huge gulf that exists between both platforms in only a year. Software wise Apple are behind and will always stay behind because of a philosophy that failed them against Microsoft and is certain to fail them again today.
Overall I'd say get the xperia. ICS hopefully will see the phone really shine bright.
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For me personally having tested the one x as well, the xperia is a much better phone.
The two front runners are the xperia and the galaxy S3.
The one x has all the bells and whistles but fails to deliver, the galaxy S3 has doggy looks but delivers a great user experience while the xperia looks the best but only really delivers for the mainstream user. It's not a phone for the hardcore who always want the latest cutting edge specs.
All these phones are much much better than the toyish iPhone. Apple's problem isn't hardware but software. IOS is still just basically an app launcher and I don't believe that'll change much with IOS6.
Steve jobs stuck to the line that fluidity was better than sophistication. Google on the other hand opted for sophistication knowing fully well that hardware would catch up. Google have won there just as Microsoft did in the nineties.
IOS is so inferior to android that I just can't see them closing the huge gulf that exists between both platforms in only a year. Software wise Apple are behind and will always stay behind because of a philosophy that failed them against Microsoft and is certain to fail them again today.
Overall I'd say get the xperia. ICS hopefully will see the phone really shine bright.
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Personally for what I do with my phones I see them as pretty similar, its when I start wanting to do stuff like moves files on the phone, apps arent as open in what they can do with the file system and you can basiclly customize anything in android, beyond that to call an iphone a toy is ridiculous, it can do mostly everything android can except some features when you start digging deep, in the end its all about what you need, I consider myself a pretty big tech guy and I rarely run into a situation where Im like "Oh man I REALLY wish I had and android right now!" only times are when using the crappy youtube app (guess why lol), maps could be better, and random scenarios when doing file management stuff.
And yea the GS3 has great specs but but ugly! Like...really ugly lol
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Personally for what I do with my phones I see them as pretty similar, its when I start wanting to do stuff like moves files on the phone, apps arent as open in what they can do with the file system and you can basiclly customize anything in android, beyond that to call an iphone a toy is ridiculous, it can do mostly everything android can except some features when you start digging deep, in the end its all about what you need, I consider myself a pretty big tech guy and I rarely run into a situation where Im like "Oh man I REALLY wish I had and android right now!" only times are when using the crappy youtube app (guess why lol), maps could be better, and random scenarios when doing file management stuff.
And yea the GS3 has great specs but but ugly! Like...really ugly lol
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Even you yourself have in your response, highlighted quite a few instances where android either can while the iPhone can't or where android can just do it better.
I suggest to you that there are a lot of these instances, and that's right through the operating system. Android carries out most functions in fewer steps than IOS and is more intuitive in just as many ways.
The iPhone like I said, is just an app launcher and that's the stuff of 5yrs ago.
Hand held computing is much more than that now.
The iPhone is what it is, just another 'must have' joker, a status symbol, a very bold neon sign that says ' hey look at me, I'm the man you see in the place to be'.
There you will find the reason for its success and nowhere else.
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My 2 pennies worth.
I don't like Apple, never have and never will for various reasons.
As far as the one x, used one for few hours last week and hated it. It is just full of bugs, too many annoyances to list here. I tried it as I was offered one at a good price, but decided to stick with my XperiaS.
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One x on ATT is boot loader locked, great mobile tho and I'd get that version not the Tegra3.
I'd still get the xperia s over both of them tho as I did
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Even you yourself have in your response, highlighted quite a few instances where android either can while the iPhone can't or where android can just do it better.
I suggest to you that there are a lot of these instances, and that's right through the operating system. Android carries out most functions in fewer steps than IOS and is more intuitive in just as many ways.
The iPhone like I said, is just an app launcher and that's the stuff of 5yrs ago.
Hand held computing is much more than that now.
The iPhone is what it is, just another 'must have' joker, a status symbol, a very bold neon sign that says ' hey look at me, I'm the man you see in the place to be'.
There you will find the reason for its success and nowhere else.
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Eh, we all have opinions, I like the simplicity and integration of apple combined with its top notch hardware, and I find Android to be a bit all over the place at times, for me they both have their pros and cons and I can use either, now WP7, thats a different story, I have tried it twice and just cant use it, the font and overall style is amazing and it does something things that "just make sense" when you think about it, but then it does things or misses features where it leaves you scratching your head, that combined with the fact that the app slection sucks and the hardware is pretty sub par, wp7 overall leaves much to be desired but has big potential if some major changes are done.
For now I'll wait for the IP5 and see what it offers, if disappointing I'll go android. As of now Im happy with my 4S.
Symbian also wasnt actually too bad! Just SO slow due to bad specs and like 10 apps lol, other then that it was great on my old Nokia's, and WM was alsmot the same in those aspects aswell imo, great potential but the OS was so slow due to low ram and weak proc, they were ahead of their time, but when the time came it was too late.
Yes symbian was very functional. It just lacked the fluidity and the presence of android. Android just like windows will become almost ubiquitous within 10 years.
It's Google's alternative to Windows. Understand that and you'll understand where it's going.
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Yes symbian was very functional. It just lacked the fluidity and the presence of android. Android just like windows will become almost ubiquitous within 10 years.
It's Google's alternative to Windows. Understand that and you'll understand where it's going.
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Competition is good, it forces everyone to step up their games, hopefully apple can impress with IOS6 and lets see if MS can turn around WP sales with an updated WP fixing the missing features and what not.
Please, lets stop saying "the Iphone can do what android can" and just face the facts. My droid can share files ota easily, run programs that can remotely control computers, etc... My sister has a hard time transferings songs from her mac book to her iphone... Enough said.
I am already planning on getting an xperia S. The choices I was facing was either the SGS3, ONE X and Xperia S. I was a bit dissapointed with SE last year when I got my NEO V because the hardware specs werent that competitive(single core 1ghz, 512 ram, 420mb storage). When xperia s came out it was a large step from what they had last 2011. I was thinking of shifting to samsung for the s3 but after I saw how ugly it is, it was safe to assume that im going with sony again. I never did like htc because of its crappy QC and sub-standard build quality.
I have to give to Sony though...their phones really are sexy. Aesthetically, it looks top class. Even the UI is one of the best around.
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Please, lets stop saying "the Iphone can do what android can" and just face the facts. My droid can share files ota easily, run programs that can remotely control computers, etc... My sister has a hard time transferings songs from her mac book to her iphone... Enough said.
I am already planning on getting an xperia S. The choices I was facing was either the SGS3, ONE X and Xperia S. I was a bit dissapointed with SE last year when I got my NEO V because the hardware specs werent that competitive(single core 1ghz, 512 ram, 420mb storage). When xperia s came out it was a large step from what they had last 2011. I was thinking of shifting to samsung for the s3 but after I saw how ugly it is, it was safe to assume that im going with sony again. I never did like htc because of its crappy QC and sub-standard build quality.
I have to give to Sony though...their phones really are sexy. Aesthetically, it looks top class. Even the UI is one of the best around.
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You are right Android can do more then iphone but the majority of iphone users could care less about that stuff so its a moot point for them, all they care about is playing music, web, phone, text, apps, just the basic stuff which iphone does exceptionally well, honestly thats all I use my phone for. Most iphone users dont care about cores, ram, and stuff like that, thats what many seem to not understand. All I want is a quad core and bigger screen on iphone which im sure the 5 will.
Exactly! Its like comparing apples with oranges...each has its own purpose.
Me personally, I needed a phone that can double as my pc and laptop at the same time... I do a lot on it; edit files, remotely controling my pc at home, viewing wifi cams at home, works as an extension for other devices, etc. I need a phone that can do more than just play music and other basic stuff.
When I saw the xperia S camera specs, I figured I need more now. I travel a lot and take tons of photos for personal and work purposes... This means I dont have to carry my camera all the time.
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I can't decide if I want a DNA or iPhone 5. I have my upgrade may 1. I have owned 2 android phones that both have given me issues ( xperia play and LG Lucid. ) I have experienced multiple issues on both android devices therefore it makes me nervous about getting another android device. IPhones on the other hand, my friends have had very few issues, unless dropped but of course I would keep a case on my iPhone. Could you guys help me decide?
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I can't decide if I want a DNA or iPhone 5. I have my upgrade may 1. I have owned 2 android phones that both have given me issues ( xperia play and LG Lucid. ) I have experienced multiple issues on both android devices therefore it makes me nervous about getting another android device. IPhones on the other hand, my friends have had very few issues, unless dropped but of course I would keep a case on my iPhone. Could you guys help me decide?
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HTC Droid DNA has been a VERY solid phone for me. I'd choose DNA over iPhone 5 any day.
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I can't decide if I want a DNA or iPhone 5. I have my upgrade may 1. I have owned 2 android phones that both have given me issues ( xperia play and LG Lucid. ) I have experienced multiple issues on both android devices therefore it makes me nervous about getting another android device. IPhones on the other hand, my friends have had very few issues, unless dropped but of course I would keep a case on my iPhone. Could you guys help me decide?
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do you like customization? do you like a full 1080p high Def screen? do you like a quad core processor with 2 gigs of ram?
the phones you had, well, sucked. they were very low end android phones. the Lucid is terrible lol we used to sell that.. made me a huge profit but I hated selling it. the xperia was meh. the dna is a premium high end device.
people with iPhones "don't have issues" because you can't do everything on them you can on an Android. for example, people don't complain about errors or force closing on iPhones because when an app force closes, they don't tell you it's performed an error. it just backs out to the home screen, ans doesn't tell you why. most people think "oh just a small glitch, I'll uninstall and reinstall the app..." and then it's fixed.
believe me, when I worked at Verizon, I saw more idiots with iPhones with problems than I thought could possibly exist. I couldn't believe that many people didn't even know how to use an iPhone. good god.
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No one can really decide for you, but my friend got the iPhone 5 coming from a droid razr and then I got my dna and let him use it and he wished that he stayed with android. What are you looking to do on your phone. The droid dna can do just about everything. Where as the iPhone 5 doesn't have some features the dna has. The specs aren't really even comparable in my opinion, the dna beats all of the iPhone.
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I carry both of them if there's anything you're wondering about just send me a PM.
My general rule of thumb is if you plan to jailbreak your iPhone don't bother with an iPhone and get an Android. And if that's the case the DNA is the first phone I've used to take iPhones out of some long time iDevice family members hands.
If you say to yourself you are 100 percent satisfied with an iPhone out of the box and just want something that doesnt need to be customized or anything, then it's something you might want to consider.
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I can't decide if I want a DNA or iPhone 5. I have my upgrade may 1. I have owned 2 android phones that both have given me issues ( xperia play and LG Lucid. ) I have experienced multiple issues on both android devices therefore it makes me nervous about getting another android device. IPhones on the other hand, my friends have had very few issues, unless dropped but of course I would keep a case on my iPhone. Could you guys help me decide?
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Its a tough call I really I like them both. That said if it was me I would wait it out and look at the HTC One and the iPhone 5S and see which one I like better. If the iPhone 5S comes with a 4+ inch screen and iOS 7 gets a overhaul it maybe a tough call. Despite what the android guys says (most have actually never owned the iPhone 5 (I have)) its a really solid device. Issue is its boring you can't do a lot with it. I like to tinker but to be honest even that gets boring after a while. So if you want something that without a doubt is going to work almost 100% of the time AND you like getting updates for your device on a regular bases then the iPhone is a clear winner. Its fast and it works.
One more thing what HTC has done to Sense 5 I might as well go back to the iPhone. The new Sense brings nothing to the table for me.
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Its a tough call I really I like them both. That said if it was me I would wait it out and look at the HTC One and the iPhone 5S and see which one I like better. If the iPhone 5S comes with a 4+ inch screen and iOS 7 gets a overhaul it maybe a tough call. Despite what the android guys says (most have actually never owned the iPhone 5 (I have)) its a really solid device. Issue is its boring you can't do a lot with it. I like to tinker but to be honest even that gets boring after a while. So if you want something that without a doubt is going to work almost 100% of the time AND you like getting updates for your device on a regular bases then the iPhone is a clear winner. Its fast and it works.
One more thing what HTC has done to Sense 5 I might as well go back to the iPhone. The new Sense brings nothing to the table for me.
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The great thing about android is if you want a different look then you change it to what you want. There are very few reported issues as far as software go with android is concerned since the era of jellybean. Android biggest issue is the different hardware that is has to be optimized for. Dna stock is really refined but I for one like to change things up at min once a week. We can't tell you what to chose but if choice is an issue then android is your best bet because you can make it perform like any phone you want.
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The iPhone is a solid choice simply because it's so tightly controlled there is very little that can go wrong with it. The LTE is fast, processor and memory are very capable for the OS, battery is good, and everyone who releases an app makes it for the iPhone....usually first.
That being said, and I've been on both sides of the fence, I personally prefer Android devices. Two things keep me away from iOS. First is the screen size. Showing my age here, but I'm pushing 40 and a 3.5-4" screen really doesn't do it for me anymore. Especially after using things which are so easy on the eyes in the 4.3-5" range; it's difficult to get used to an iPhone size again. At the present I'm using a DNA for a few major reasons, namely the display is gorgeous, build quality is fantastic, and the open/customizable nature of Android gives me freedom that an iPhone never will. One thing that kind of surprised me after going to the DNA was that I find myself actually surfing the web on this phone. With the iPhone's cramped screen, surfing the web is do-able, but almost pointless - you'd be much better off on a desktop. However web page rendering on the DNA with the much larger screen, is actually very capable of basic surfing/checking news, etc. I go to my desktop less, especially when I'm working in my lab and need a quick lookup on something; I go to the DNA. iOS itself is very restrictive compared to Android.
My suggestion - if you mainly use a phone for phone calls, text, and apps, then go for an iPhone. If you spend time surfing the web, doing some customizing or tinkering with the innards, as well as calling and texting, go with the DNA. To be honest you can't really go wrong either way; they're just different.
Good luck with your decision, and hopefully we'll see you around these forums after your final decision.
I had a difficult time making that decision as well when I had upgraded a month ago (from a thunderbolt), although the whole integration thing was appealing with the iphone (have an ipad already, plus other family members have iphones), I had decided to go with the dna instead because of the ability to tinker with it and such, enjoy doing that sort of stuff
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The iPhone is a solid choice simply because it's so tightly controlled there is very little that can go wrong with it. The LTE is fast, processor and memory are very capable for the OS, battery is good, and everyone who releases an app makes it for the iPhone....usually first.
That being said, and I've been on both sides of the fence, I personally prefer Android devices. Two things keep me away from iOS. First is the screen size. Showing my age here, but I'm pushing 40 and a 3.5-4" screen really doesn't do it for me anymore. Especially after using things which are so easy on the eyes in the 4.3-5" range; it's difficult to get used to an iPhone size again. At the present I'm using a DNA for a few major reasons, namely the display is gorgeous, build quality is fantastic, and the open/customizable nature of Android gives me freedom that an iPhone never will. One thing that kind of surprised me after going to the DNA was that I find myself actually surfing the web on this phone. With the iPhone's cramped screen, surfing the web is do-able, but almost pointless - you'd be much better off on a desktop. However web page rendering on the DNA with the much larger screen, is actually very capable of basic surfing/checking news, etc. I go to my desktop less, especially when I'm working in my lab and need a quick lookup on something; I go to the DNA. iOS itself is very restrictive compared to Android.
My suggestion - if you mainly use a phone for phone calls, text, and apps, then go for an iPhone. If you spend time surfing the web, doing some customizing or tinkering with the innards, as well as calling and texting, go with the DNA. To be honest you can't really go wrong either way; they're just different.
Good luck with your decision, and hopefully we'll see you around these forums after your final decision.
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The thing is though.... you can do that all on the DNA. I would say the DNA on stock is a very stable capable phone and Sense imho looks brilliant over iOS.
I agree though, most apps do come out on the iPhone first due to the platform being more stable and easier to dev for in the beginning.... We'll probably see that change over the course of time with JB and onward though.
I agree with everything said here. It was really a tough for me to decide especially since I use Mac computers, iPad, Apple TV, Time Capsule, etc.. but on android you can flash stuff and try different things if you want too. Its nice having that ability. When I had the iPhone I found myself a little board. I didn't have anything to develop, and everything I had learned to do on android seem to be going to waste.
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If the iPhone 5S comes with a 4+ inch screen
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But then your thumb can't reach all corners of the phone's screen!!
It amazes me when people mention that in reviews of devices, especially when it's a 5 ft guy reviewing it [usually small hands to begin with]. It's neither a pro nor con that's worth mentioning imo
Sarcasm aside, it would be interesting to see Apple come out with a 4+ in screen especially after watching some of their advertisements and events.
All I know is I got my girlfriend the iPhone5 when I bought my DNA and she has more problems than I do.
The only time i've had ANY issue on my DNA is when I screw something up myself from a mod or ROM that I knew was wonky.
My girlfriend on the other hand? Her favorite comment is "I guess i'm done with [insert name of the app that just force closed here" because her iPhone will force close anything from Facebook to the built in camera app.
It makes me laugh because i've always wondered if i'd be happier with an iPhone but I never pulled the trigger and now I know i'll be sticking with Android for the near future at the very least.
Also, her battery life is only slightly better than mine. By 6PM i'm usually sitting around 80% (I don't use my phone much during the day and I have a wireless charger it's on occasionally) but she always has to charge her phone before we go out for the night and I don't.
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All I know is I got my girlfriend the iPhone5 when I bought my DNA and she has more problems than I do.
The only time i've had ANY issue on my DNA is when I screw something up myself from a mod or ROM that I knew was wonky.
My girlfriend on the other hand? Her favorite comment is "I guess i'm done with [insert name of the app that just force closed here" because her iPhone will force close anything from Facebook to the built in camera app.
It makes me laugh because i've always wondered if i'd be happier with an iPhone but I never pulled the trigger and now I know i'll be sticking with Android for the near future at the very least.
Also, her battery life is only slightly better than mine. By 6PM i'm usually sitting around 80% (I don't use my phone much during the day and I have a wireless charger it's on occasionally) but she always has to charge her phone before we go out for the night and I don't.
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I'd like to start by saying that I love my DNA its a great device. That said I never had any of those issues on my iPhone 5 none.. also the battery life on mine was kick as$ I could go two days without charging it. Sounds kind of like she needs a hard reset.
My personal opinion is that you should def. get the DNA. In general, if you're going to choose a low grade Android or an iPhone I would recommend the iPhone. I would; however, recommend that a person spend a little bit of money and get a high end Android phone every time. It is well worth the $100-$150 to for a 2 year investment. If it makes you feel better break it down by month. If you do that's about $6.25/month for a completely awesome phone.
I think im sold to the DNA.. about 20 days and I can own one!
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I carry both of them if there's anything you're wondering about just send me a PM.
My general rule of thumb is if you plan to jailbreak your iPhone don't bother with an iPhone and get an Android. And if that's the case the DNA is the first phone I've used to take iPhones out of some long time iDevice family members hands.
If you say to yourself you are 100 percent satisfied with an iPhone out of the box and just want something that doesnt need to be customized or anything, then it's something you might want to consider.
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I agree with this. Both devices are capable of doing whatever you need. However, you are limited to what you can do with and without jailbreak on iOS. For example, I didn't like the HTC sense look but don't have root yet so I installed nova launcher... You can't do that on iOS. Don't like lock screen? You can change without root on Android. So on... But at the same time I would keep stock on iOS cause the other stuff doesn't look good in my opinion. (i like stock. That's why I want root for cm 10.1). Ask yourself what you are looking for and ask yourself if you are bored of iOS or bored of Android?
I recommend the DNA because I like the hardware and android, but don't let me pick for you. ^_^ (keep in mind there isn't a root for the DNA right now if you have ota so if it's not out by when you get it, you'll have to pay for jtag or use sense )
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I'd like to start by saying that I love my DNA its a great device. That said I never had any of those issues on my iPhone 5 none.. also the battery life on mine was kick as$ I could go two days without charging it. Sounds kind of like she needs a hard reset.
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She says the apps that force close are "known issues" and listed in the apps reviews.
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What I love about android is that I can change anything I want. If I want to I can:
change the lock screen
add widgets
change launcher
change icons
remove unwanted applications
save email attachments
change file associants (make chrome your default web browser)
ringtone trimmer set any mp3 as a ringer
set any image as a wallpaper
much, much, more..
thats the stuff that sells me.
DNA is awesome fast Quad-core CPU, Adreno 320 GPU, 1080P Display, NFC, Wireless Charging. . . 2GB RAM. Its awesome.
If he wants to tinker with it he will have to wait until the new firmware is unlockable, or he can jtag it.
Now that cm13 is close I am considering making the jump to this phone from current iPhone 6.
Anyone here who have jumped from iPhone to oneplus x that could tell if it's "ok" or that they regret it etc ?
Thanks in advance.
I personally don't have an iPhone, but other than camera I think OPX can beat iPhone 6, because OS is as fluid as iOS, day to day performance is good and stable and yess it needs some optimizations ( gaming, camera) but it will be fixed with future updates. And Android 6.0 will make this phone trully amazing. Just some patience. It's really unique phone from unique company.
I was about to buy either iPhone or one plus 2 but went for this like this better than 5s which was the previous phone i was using
I came from an iPhone 5 (used other Android Phones before as you can see in my signature) and I am pretty statisfied with the OPX, except for the Camera, which barely use, so it's not a game changer.
If you don't really want to have a OPX and use Android I would stick with the iPhone because of it's overall better hardware.
I switched to android this summer after 8 years of using iPhone. It was just not worth it anymore. The premium price you pay, the closed apple universe, etc... android is much more open, so many devices to choose from, CUSTOM ROMs^^, way cheaper to get good performance, etc. I got used to android by now and I don't have much to complain about.
I decided to buy the OPX because I liked the size and screen (5" Full HD AMOLED) and the dual sim capability. However, Oxygen OS was a big let-down. Luckily, there are some CM based ROMs already. Works well for me.
Another word about the storage: I always got the 16GB iPhone because it was the cheapest and I didn't store any music or movies, games on it. But still, with iPhone I ran out of space quickly. On my OPX I have several GB free!
I would say get youself the phone now and try it out, it is not expensive and has great hardware performance. After just a few months for me with android I couldn't imagine going back to iPhone now. (still loving my macbook air though)
Happy Holidays!
I bought this as my first android phone after using Iphones for 6 years, 5s being my last one.
Since I hate the iphone 6 design and I couldn'T wait for the 7
I instantly flashed a custom ROM and I'm loving it.
I have to admit I miss how well my iphone worked with my macbook compared to this.
But I'm sure I'll find workarounds for it.
I'm running this phone for 20 days now and I haven't touched my iphone anymore.
This device might not have the high end specs of the iphones but you have to ask yourself the question: do i need those specs?
Once I properly asked myself that question I came to realise mid range specs are already really good nowadays.
I'm not a hardcore mobile gamer, I'm not a photographer nor am I a music addict that needs the best of the best.
If you think the same like me, just go and buy the phone.
You won't regret it
yeah the specs! who needs high end, expensive hardware for texting and browsing?
not me
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Now that cm13 is close I am considering making the jump to this phone from current iPhone 6.
Anyone here who have jumped from iPhone to oneplus x that could tell if it's "ok" or that they regret it etc ?
Thanks in advance.
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I picked up one at the retail store on while I was in Shanghai last week and don't regret it. The default font size is larger than the iPhone 6, and overall it is lighter and nicer to use. This is my first Android phone as I have had almost every iPhone model since the 3GS came out. I am very happy with it.
Hello,
I bought my Z5 Compact in december 2015 to replace my broken Z3C and I quickly realized numberous flaws that I will list here. But first, I'm gonna talk about the good things.
It's a really well build phone. Nothing to say there, it's nearly perfect and way better than the Z3C which was already pretty good (but way too fragile). The design is beautiful, probably one of the nicest in stores.
The camera autofocus is also very good and the depth of field is nice. It must be a very good sensor.
Some apps are really well done, like the launcher, Music, Gallery or TrackID.
Now let's talk about the bad things.
1) The camera. The app is really slow to launch, it's also slow to take a picture, and it's not everytime the same amount of time. Sometimes it takes 2 seconds, sometimes 5 seconds, you can't trust it.
Most of the pictures are very blurry on the sides and it's just not on par with other flagships. It's also very noisy, incredibly bad for something that's supposed to be as good as the Galaxy S6 camera. Even my Moto E takes better pictures sometimes.
Also, after i take 2-3 pictures it makes the phone lag for a few seconds which is really frustrating when you paid $500 for this thing.
2) The performance. Most of the time it's pretty acceptable, but if I compare it with the Z3C it's just not as smooth and responsive. It's faster, but not as smooth.
There are sometimes little lags, little latencies, it's still OK but not as good and I would say it should be way better if I look at the specs.
Sometimes, usually when I opened snapchat or the camera, it lags like hell to the point where it's unusable. And it happens really often, not even always when the phone is hot so this is not a S810 issue.
3) The Marshmallow update. I really liked what they did with the Marshmallow beta on the Z3C so I was really excited to see what they would do on the Z5C. And I was again disappointed. Yeah, it fixed most of the performance issues, but it's still really not that good, and I hate the way they updated some apps.
Why the hell is the notification bar BLACK in the settings, in messages and in some other apps ? It's not Android 4.3 anymore, they really need to improve their UI.
4) The custom rom support. There is only one custom ROM and it still has a lot of issues, it's by far the worst phone I've ever had for that.
5) The battery life. It's not terrible, but it's really not that good, especially compared to the Z3C I expected way better results.
6) The way Sony handles the Z5 series. Marshmallow came so late, when the Z3 already had an incredibly good "beta" version for like 6 months. And now I learn that the Android N beta is available on the Z3 ?? What the hell, we also paid our phones ! I feel like they are giving up on this phone and they just say "f*ck you" to the stupid people who've had the weird idea to buy that thing.
I asked them on twitter and they said "it's for developpers" with a gif of a woman rolling her eyes. Well this is completely stupid, because first, I could be a dev, and second, it's not for devs at all, it's for people who want to try it and give feedback.
So you have my opinion, after all it's not the worst phone ever, most of it is really good but a lot of thing are bothering me.
I'm buying an iPhone SE next week after six years of Android and 16 Android Phones in these 6 years. So this must actually be pretty bad because I never felt the need to switch to iOS with any of the phones I owned, even the Moto E. It's also my use of a phone that's more adapted to iOS right now, but still this phone is one of the main reasons.
I hope my bad english didn't bother you and I hope this was somehow interesting to read.
Thank you
I agree...
Unfortunately I must agree with your opinion regarding Z5 Compact. Especially the part regarding the camera lags is very true. Also the AF system fails sometimes on the random basis.
On my Z5C I had already the camera broken (after two months of using the phone) and fixed via warranty claim together with the fingerprint sensor which was working when it liked to.
Now I can see that the phone has bent a little bit while carrying it in the pocket and this bending has led to the broken phone frame (in the fingerprint area where the frame has only two thin plastic straps around the sensor). The worst thing is that I can also see some dust inside the lens so it means that the whole body is not sealed any more probably due to that broken frame.
I have also some concerns regarding the Sony's software (Android 5.1.1.):
1) The gallery application is not customisable at all. For example you cannot change the sorting order or exclude / include some folders.
2) No call blacklist for automatic call rejection (this function is built in into my old Samsung S4 Mini)
3) Very limited customization of alarm schedules (automatic alarm offs etc., I can adjust something but not exactly what I want)
4) The calling screen is hard to distinguish from the phone number information screen. Sometimes I'm not sure if I'm actually calling somebody or just checking the contact info (there is only one small blinking symbol during the actual calling out).
5) No scheduled SMS option (again, this is present in my old Samsung S4 Mini)
6) Very week LED light (compared to S4 Mini)
7) The analog radio tuner is not sensitive enough for high quality stereo reception (compared to S4 Mini)
8) The built-in e-mail application (Microsfot Exchange client) has problems with displaying e-mails correctly => for example the title has big font and the e-mail body small tiny letters (again compared to S4 Mini e-mail app). It also does not show the contact pictures which are stored on the Microsoft Exchange server (=> pictures are visible in S4 Mini).
Overall I'm quite disappointed with that phone model. Luckily it's my business phone so I didn't have to pay for it.
I bought an iPhone SE and used it for about two weeks. I am back on my Z5C. I got tired of the restrictions in iOS that I take for granted in Android. I will keep the SE as a spare since no one else makes a good small phone.
I don't think you'll find many people here telling you that leaving the z5c is a bad decision lol but the iOS transition if you've never played with it will leave you far more frustrated. Simple tasks are cumbersome and customizability is slim. I have wanted the 5, 5s, 5c, 6, 6s, SE when they were all released but the iOS is a serious flaw. Android is faster in maneuvering through the OS and customizability is limitless so I've been settling for mid range phones for YEARS just to keep a one handed phone. I'd suggest maybe getting a iPod touch to play with to test the iOS waters before making the plunge.
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Unfortunately I must agree with your opinion regarding Z5 Compact. Especially the part regarding the camera lags is very true. Also the AF system fails sometimes on the random basis.
On my Z5C I had already the camera broken (after two months of using the phone) and fixed via warranty claim together with the fingerprint sensor which was working when it liked to.
Now I can see that the phone has bent a little bit while carrying it in the pocket and this bending has led to the broken phone frame (in the fingerprint area where the frame has only two thin plastic straps around the sensor). The worst thing is that I can also see some dust inside the lens so it means that the whole body is not sealed any more probably due to that broken frame.
I have also some concerns regarding the Sony's software (Android 5.1.1.):
1) The gallery application is not customisable at all. For example you cannot change the sorting order or exclude / include some folders.
2) No call blacklist for automatic call rejection (this function is built in into my old Samsung S4 Mini)
3) Very limited customization of alarm schedules (automatic alarm offs etc., I can adjust something but not exactly what I want)
4) The calling screen is hard to distinguish from the phone number information screen. Sometimes I'm not sure if I'm actually calling somebody or just checking the contact info (there is only one small blinking symbol during the actual calling out).
5) No scheduled SMS option (again, this is present in my old Samsung S4 Mini)
6) Very week LED light (compared to S4 Mini)
7) The analog radio tuner is not sensitive enough for high quality stereo reception (compared to S4 Mini)
8) The built-in e-mail application (Microsfot Exchange client) has problems with displaying e-mails correctly => for example the title has big font and the e-mail body small tiny letters (again compared to S4 Mini e-mail app). It also does not show the contact pictures which are stored on the Microsoft Exchange server (=> pictures are visible in S4 Mini).
Overall I'm quite disappointed with that phone model. Luckily it's my business phone so I didn't have to pay for it.
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Hm,
can be summed up with:
close to AOSP/stock-Android.
My decision to go with the Z5 was because it's more close to AOSP, well - guess what ?
I also got used to Samsung's "bloat" and customizability - so in certain parts is was a kind of shock to see to limitations of Sony's ROM,
but if you're getting the phone with the attitude of rooting and unlocking the bootloader anyway to install a custom ROM,
it's somewhat different
Not talking about you,
but it's kind of ridiculous:
people are complaining that Samsung's ROM is too bloated, too much features, overloaded,
then when they switch to a device with slim, minimal ROM - then complain, too
Seems like folks don't know what they really want after all
Solution:
Get a device which offers über-bloated ROM but also Option of AOSP,
then wait until the "perfect" ROM is out - or get your hands dirty and modify and optimize the ROM yourself :silly:
This is XDA after all
civicsr2cool said:
I don't think you'll find many people here telling you that leaving the z5c is a bad decision lol but the iOS transition if you've never played with it will leave you far more frustrated. Simple tasks are cumbersome and customizability is slim. I have wanted the 5, 5s, 5c, 6, 6s, SE when they were all released but the iOS is a serious flaw. Android is faster in maneuvering through the OS and customizability is limitless so I've been settling for mid range phones for YEARS just to keep a one handed phone. I'd suggest maybe getting a iPod touch to play with to test the iOS waters before making the plunge.
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Yeah I bought an iPod Touch 6 and used it for one week, now I have the SE and it's a real pleasure to use. I wouldn't have done that a year ago but now my use has changed and I don't really need android anymore. Actually there are really not so much that I miss from Android, it's really better for me (but of course it will depend on how you use your phone).
Otherwise the SE is faster, like REALLY faster, the camera is 100 times better and I prefer the form factor so I'm really happy for now :good:
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Yeah I bought an iPod Touch 6 and used it for one week, now I have the SE and it's a real pleasure to use. I wouldn't have done that a year ago but now my use has changed and I don't really need android anymore. Actually there are really not so much that I miss from Android, it's really better for me (but of course it will depend on how you use your phone).
Otherwise the SE is faster, like REALLY faster, the camera is 100 times better and I prefer the form factor so I'm really happy for now :good:
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That's good news! The amount of accessories available for it are pretty cool. You can even buy iPhone 6 mini conversion housings for it. 4" are a bit too small for me however, 4.3" seems to be the sweet spot I'm always looking for. I'm a heavy root user and change the themes on my phone weekly so I'm not leaving Android anytime soon lol
sorry to disagree with you in certain things... well i have had 5 Xperia Z5 (the regular one) and since i'm into buying and selling Xperia phones, the Z5 compact and the Z5 Premium was the most impressive Sony phones... talking more about the Z5C because the Z5P didn't have for a long time to talk about it much... Z5 compact which i'm owning right now is very smooth and never lagged for me, the camera is great, front and back... the camera shot delay not really as you described it, it not as faster as the big Z5 but it's good! remember it's 2GB while the big is 3GB... most of the time i use the manual mode, and even with the auto... pictures are sharp, so i think you need to have steady hands or tripod.....
to summarize all about Z5C, it's a compact flagship that you won't find it's specs or capabilities in any other Mini from the other competitors....
....i know it's a user preference, but i'd be very honest to you to tell you switching from Z5C to iPhone SE is the dumbest decision i've ever heard about knowing that that iphone SE is a redesigned/redefined iPhone 5 or 5S....
i'm not biasing z5c because as i said, i didn't like the Z5 as much as i love the Z5C in everything, even though the Z5 is a bit more powerful with that extra ram, but the build quality in certain parts of the phone, Z5C has it better.
and i couldn't keep the Z5P because of the high price, so the half of it's price got me a Z5C which is more than fair and convenient for me.
now i have 2 Z5 compacts (im selling one for my friend).... the first i bought for $196 because i need to fix it's micro sd card slot, also with no accessories.. and the other for $276 without accessories but as brand new with no issues, and im keeping for me. also i noticed in Marshmallow both devices has the sound quality improved and more louder compared to 5.1.1 and they both equal in both speakers, with a dB meter test app.
don't be annoyed with my comment, and again it's a user preference but i wanted to share my experience with Z5c... so yours or mine aren't the reference for the Z5C but it could help others to have decisions before buying any phone.
thank you.
Funny why you swapped to iphone but not a other android device that might service your needs. But shame to see that many only know 2 brands of phones.
Nidhal AKA the king said:
sorry to disagree with you in certain things... well i have had 5 Xperia Z5 (the regular one) and since i'm into buying and selling Xperia phones, the Z5 compact and the Z5 Premium was the most impressive Sony phones... talking more about the Z5C because the Z5P didn't have for a long time to talk about it much... Z5 compact which i'm owning right now is very smooth and never lagged for me, the camera is great, front and back... the camera shot delay not really as you described it, it not as faster as the big Z5 but it's good! remember it's 2GB while the big is 3GB... most of the time i use the manual mode, and even with the auto... pictures are sharp, so i think you need to have steady hands or tripod.....
to summarize all about Z5C, it's a compact flagship that you won't find it's specs or capabilities in any other Mini from the other competitors....
....i know it's a user preference, but i'd be very honest to you to tell you switching from Z5C to iPhone SE is the dumbest decision i've ever heard about knowing that that iphone SE is a redesigned/redefined iPhone 5 or 5S....
i'm not biasing z5c because as i said, i didn't like the Z5 as much as i love the Z5C in everything, even though the Z5 is a bit more powerful with that extra ram, but the build quality in certain parts of the phone, Z5C has it better.
and i couldn't keep the Z5P because of the high price, so the half of it's price got me a Z5C which is more than fair and convenient for me.
now i have 2 Z5 compacts (im selling one for my friend).... the first i bought for $196 because i need to fix it's micro sd card slot, also with no accessories.. and the other for $276 without accessories but as brand new with no issues, and im keeping for me. also i noticed in Marshmallow both devices has the sound quality improved and more louder compared to 5.1.1 and they both equal in both speakers, with a dB meter test app.
don't be annoyed with my comment, and again it's a user preference but i wanted to share my experience with Z5c... so yours or mine aren't the reference for the Z5C but it could help others to have decisions before buying any phone.
thank you.
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Well, let's agree to disagree. The Z5C is the best compact android phone (I still think that iPhone SE is better, but i can't forgo the versatility of android.)
What really disappoints me is that the older Z3 gets an Android N Developer Preview. I was like, what the heck! The older phone gets this privilege while the newer Z5 doesn't? It almost feels like Sony betrayed the Z5 users. But this is about the only Con of the Z5 though.
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I've had my Z5c for about a week. My current daily driver is a Moto X 2013. I'm really liking the the Z5c, but I have to admit I'm having trouble letting go of the X - its just a pleasure to hold and use. If Motorola followed Apple's lead with the SE and packed an updated package into the Moto X body, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
I'll reserve comment on the Z5c and post in a more appropriate thread once I've spent more time with it. I'm not rooted yet (still on the fence) but once I threw some Nova Prime at it, I began to really enjoy my journey.
@flolaff
I totally agree with you. Add to your list Broken Adaptive Brightness. I'm planning to change the Z5C as soon as there a new Nexus.
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Nidhal AKA the king said:
sorry to disagree with you in certain things... well i have had 5 Xperia Z5 (the regular one) and since i'm into buying and selling Xperia phones, the Z5 compact and the Z5 Premium was the most impressive Sony phones... talking more about the Z5C because the Z5P didn't have for a long time to talk about it much... Z5 compact which i'm owning right now is very smooth and never lagged for me, the camera is great, front and back... the camera shot delay not really as you described it, it not as faster as the big Z5 but it's good! remember it's 2GB while the big is 3GB... most of the time i use the manual mode, and even with the auto... pictures are sharp, so i think you need to have steady hands or tripod.....
to summarize all about Z5C, it's a compact flagship that you won't find it's specs or capabilities in any other Mini from the other competitors....
....i know it's a user preference, but i'd be very honest to you to tell you switching from Z5C to iPhone SE is the dumbest decision i've ever heard about knowing that that iphone SE is a redesigned/redefined iPhone 5 or 5S....
i'm not biasing z5c because as i said, i didn't like the Z5 as much as i love the Z5C in everything, even though the Z5 is a bit more powerful with that extra ram, but the build quality in certain parts of the phone, Z5C has it better.
and i couldn't keep the Z5P because of the high price, so the half of it's price got me a Z5C which is more than fair and convenient for me.
now i have 2 Z5 compacts (im selling one for my friend).... the first i bought for $196 because i need to fix it's micro sd card slot, also with no accessories.. and the other for $276 without accessories but as brand new with no issues, and im keeping for me. also i noticed in Marshmallow both devices has the sound quality improved and more louder compared to 5.1.1 and they both equal in both speakers, with a dB meter test app.
don't be annoyed with my comment, and again it's a user preference but i wanted to share my experience with Z5c... so yours or mine aren't the reference for the Z5C but it could help others to have decisions before buying any phone.
thank you.
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Okay, but I feel like I would've get a way better experience with a Galaxy S6, which just is way better in everything, or even a Nexus 5X or anything. Part of the problem is the S810 which really sucks (Z3c was way smoother), and the other part is the camera. It is "ok" but compared to the S6/S7/G4/G5/5X/6P/6S/SE or any other flagship camera, it sucks, really.
And no, the SE is not "a redesigned iPhone 5". It has the specs of the iPhone 6s with a 4 inch screen, which is exactly what I wanted, and everything about it is way better than the Z5 Compact (except maybe the speaker).
RiTCHiE007 said:
Funny why you swapped to iphone but not a other android device that might service your needs. But shame to see that many only know 2 brands of phones.
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I don't "only know 2 brands of phones". As I said, in the last 6 years I've had phones from HTC, Samsung, OnePlus, Sony, Motorola and even some other brands that I forgot. I just feel like the only options right now for a really complete package are Samsung and Apple (maybe HTC but I don't really trust them anymore), and the S7 is too big for me, so I choosed the iPhone SE. It just seemed like the best option for me and so far I really like it.
Yep, I feel the same like you... Interestingly, I also used to have a z3c with the very good concept android 6.0 beta before a thief robbed it out of my hand... Well, I hoped the z5c would even be better.... But no, unfortunately, it's worse, even though the main hardware is better. The firmware is quite buggy and I absolutely agree that the battery life could be way better....
I am underimpressed with a few things about my Z5 compact, but I'll tell you why I will keep it: lanyard mount.