Hi everyone, I just would like to know if kit Kat update is better than jb or not.
My friends who have Xperia z1 told me that they are facing some problems after installing kk update
So if you have installed it, please tell me which is better
Thanks
I have KitKat on my Xperia Z Ultra phone and like it except for one thing, there is a difference in the way external SD cards are handled, programs cannot delete/move/rename files in directories that they did not create, except for built in programs. So Root Explorer no longer can do it's thing on the SDCARD1 but works fine on SDCARD. File Commander comes with the ROM so it works fine, although it is much more clunky. This doesn't really cause too many problems but it's quite annoying. Google did it for some bizarre security reason, probobly to prevent you from gaining root via a SDCard.
On a similar topic, I've had KitKat on my phone for months, I wonder what's taking so long on the tablet? Quite annoying.
Marc
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I just copied about 7gigs of mp3 files to my 16gig microsdhc for my x10 Mini Pro
U20i, and it's become slow and laggy. It reboots when I try to start an app or
do anything "too demanding".
The phone is new and was rooted correctly with z4root 1.3.0 and I haven't flashed any roms to it or anything drastic.
If anyone could help, I'd really appreciate it!
BTW it's a class 10 card (though I have my doubts at this stage). I've noticed from a facebook link that other people seem to be blaming Sony Ericsson for similar problems...
Factory reset then leave your phone to recompile media database before attempting to use it, if this fails i suggest looking into custom roms since there are usually speed increases of around 48 ~ 49 %
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hmm...
we've done similar things.. I wouldn't blame the card or the fact that you've copied 7Gigs of music though...
One thing i've noticed, is that straight after copying new things android indexes all the files, so after a hefty amount.. it will take quite a while.
I have noticed with my X10MiniPro recently, that it's a bit slow and buggy... though that's probably with my setup:
- Apps2SD with davlik cache on SD Card
- Gingerbread ROM
- JIT
and a shed load of apps i don't need but i have the space on SD so why not?
should hopefully be making my own ROM when i figure out how to get Cygwin working. And hopefully that rom will have updates and stuff until my contract ends, so about october next year..
Thanks guys I already figured it out I think. It seems that android does indeed index files synced to the sd. After a few reboots I opened Camera, and it said something like "processing media" or something...strange lol. But it's fine for now And good look with your rom, maclarenvj
Hi Everyone!
I've lurked in the xda-forum awhile. I had a HTC Touch HD ("Blackstone" I think it was) about 4 years ago, rommed it with forum help but still wound up not liking the device so I got rid of it shortly thereafter and went back to simple candybar phone. Got an international/unlocked Galaxy S3 about three weeks ago and it is my first smartphone since then and my first Android phone! Very happy so far but I have several questions so far for some minor irks.
1. Memory management - I am using the GO task manager and my memory usage is regularly between 70%-90%. It's also annoying that the device has 1gb of RAM but it shows up as 779m. Is this high usage normal? I'm guessing it is due to a lot of stock boatware which leads me to my next point.
2. Startup app management - I have tried several apps that promise to manage startup applications but nothing seems to work very well. The best one I've seen so far is Startup Cleaner 2.0 but still things like Google Talk, TripIt and some games still start even though I select them to be disabled on startup. Is there a better utility or is this a weird thing with Android or ICS?
3. Bloatware - Is there a way to uninstall the stock bloatware I don't use like Google Talk, Google+ or ChatON?
4. SD card - I purchased a Sandisk 64gb Micro Ultra SDXC memory card and slapped it in. It shows up when I connect the phone to my PC and I have been transferring files and storing camera pics with it successfully. However, the one thing I can't seem to do is move any apps to it. It seems any program that is supposed to move apps to the SD card doesn't recognize it. For example, in "App 2 SD" it states: "The Device does not have a real primary external storage, or the primary external storage is emulated. Moving app to SD function may not be supported by this device."
5. ROMs - I did some poking around and it sounds like the Omega might be best for an Android n00b. Does this strip out a lot of the bloatware? Any significant pros/cons of using this over the stock ROM?
6. Gorilla Glass 2.0 - Is this the stuff they invented in Star Trek IV because it is crazy durable!
7. Security applications - I am using Lookout free version. Is anything else recommended more (Avast) or should I supplement Lookout with something else?
I appreciate any and all help and my deepest thanks in advance. Sorry if my questions are of the n00b variety but I'm new to Android smartphones!
- LaptopFTW
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Hi Everyone!
I've lurked in the xda-forum awhile. I had a HTC Touch HD ("Blackstone" I think it was) about 4 years ago, rommed it with forum help but still wound up not liking the device so I got rid of it shortly thereafter and went back to simple candybar phone. Got an international/unlocked Galaxy S3 about three weeks ago and it is my first smartphone since then and my first Android phone! Very happy so far but I have several questions so far for some minor irks.
1. Memory management - I am using the GO task manager and my memory usage is regularly between 70%-90%. It's also annoying that the device has 1gb of RAM but it shows up as 779m. Is this high usage normal? I'm guessing it is due to a lot of stock boatware which leads me to my next point.
Never use task manager, let RAM work for you
2. Startup app management - I have tried several apps that promise to manage startup applications but nothing seems to work very well. The best one I've seen so far is Startup Cleaner 2.0 but still things like Google Talk, TripIt and some games still start even though I select them to be disabled on startup. Is there a better utility or is this a weird thing with Android or ICS?
Freeze with Titanium Backup
3. Bloatware - Is there a way to uninstall the stock bloatware I don't use like Google Talk, Google+ or ChatON?
For easy way, use custom ROM, best CheckROMv2
4. SD card - I purchased a Sandisk 64gb Micro Ultra SDXC memory card and slapped it in. It shows up when I connect the phone to my PC and I have been transferring files and storing camera pics with it successfully. However, the one thing I can't seem to do is move any apps to it. It seems any program that is supposed to move apps to the SD card doesn't recognize it. For example, in "App 2 SD" it states: "The Device does not have a real primary external storage, or the primary external storage is emulated. Moving app to SD function may not be supported by this device."
Can't move any apps to external anymore,as far I know, you can Bind it data only
5. ROMs - I did some poking around and it sounds like the Omega might be best for an Android n00b. Does this strip out a lot of the bloatware? Any significant pros/cons of using this over the stock ROM?
Best striped ROM is CheckROMv2, any stock apps you need can download from kitchen.
6. Gorilla Glass 2.0 - Is this the stuff they invented in Star Trek IV because it is crazy durable!
Yes durable enough, my screen still naked, not have any hair line yet
7. Security applications - I am using Lookout free version. Is anything else recommended more (Avast) or should I supplement Lookout with something else?
Use Samsung drive, no need anti virus
I appreciate any and all help and my deepest thanks in advance. Sorry if my questions are of the n00b variety but I'm new to Android smartphones!
- LaptopFTW
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My answer below your question ^o^
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Think the last guy covered most things but a couple of thing to add.
You don't need titanium backup or even root to remove apps as Ice Cream Sandwich allows you to disable unwanted apps right from the application management menu. The only system apps you aren't allowed to disable are ones which will break your phone, so you can safely freeze unwanted crapware without worrying about breaking anything.
I'm not entirely sure it's a good idea to start with custom roms straight away, maybe you should spend a week or two on stock and playing with what I mentioned above to learn a bit about Android before you dive into the world of root.
Also never listen to anyone when they say this, that or the other Rom is best. There are many great developers on xda and what suits him or me may not suit you.
At any rate my experience with past androids is that performance and battery life aren't all that different between the roms, it's usually only small tweaks here and there which are visible to the user. For example some will remove certain apps or the boot sound. The exceptions would be roms built from source like Cyanogenmod, Aokp and Miui. These feel very different to the Galaxy S stock Rom, although Cyanogenmod and Aokp feel quite similar to each other.
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Yup, you're right, but I think I answer as best I could. Yeah many good ROM out there, CheckROMv2 is only my suggestions.
About stock Galaxy S3, yeah good enough for casual users. Some user didn't like bloatware, many can't be deleted and need permission to do that. Peace.. ^_^
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Yup, you're right, but I think I answer as best I could. Yeah many good ROM out there, CheckROMv2 is only my suggestions.
About stock Galaxy S3, yeah good enough for casual users. Some user didn't like bloatware, many can't be deleted and need permission to do that. Peace.. ^_^
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That's right you can't delete them but a new feature of ice cream sandwich is that you can freeze them. It's basically the same thing titanium backup does but it works on stock unrooted devices.
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If you ignore the various themed components of custom roms then after my tests their is no real diffrence between any of the custom roms as they basically all have the same inside . Advantage over stock almost nil .
Of course custom roms and custom kernels are at a very early stage of development for the SGS3 so far .
jje
Thanks, everyone for the advice and replies. I'm loving the phone so far but am always looking for ways to tweak and customize.
I think that anyone of us noticed that jellybean port for xperia U start becoming really really slow after a while, and even perfomance in games are bad compared with ics.
Doing a bit of reasearch i found that the problem is cause from a process called mmcqd/1 that should be the process that manages the read/write on sdcard and it suck all the cpu. Obviously we don't even have an sdcard. so, i believe that the problem is kernel related, can anyone dig into it?
another clue is the fact that when installing jb strange folders are created, such as Storage folder or sdcard0.
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I think that anyone of us noticed that jellybean port for xperia U start becoming really really slow after a while, and even perfomance in games are bad compared with ics.
Doing a bit of reasearch i found that the problem is cause from a process called mmcqd/1 that should be the process that manages the read/write on sdcard and it suck all the cpu. Obviously we don't even have an sdcard. so, i believe that the problem is kernel related, can anyone dig into it?
another clue is the fact that when installing jb strange folders are created, such as Storage folder or sdcard0.
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........... everything(OS) is slow on xperia U except GB(2.3.7),most propably because of bad optimisation from Sony
komsa said:
........... everything(OS) is slow on xperia U except GB(2.3.7),most propably because of bad optimisation from Sony
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After some researches with logcat turned out that is the official facebook app to slow down the enitre phone by continuisly writing in the /data folder. Just unistall it and watch the phone fly...
Since the release of Android 4.4, I was unable to upgrade from 4.3 JellyBean because of two issues that completely disqualify newer Android versions for me:
1. Apps have no access to the external SD card.
This issues is NOT solved by moddification of /system/etc/permissions/platform.xml file
Examples of apps include:
- Sygic GPS navigation
- BeyondPod podcast manager
- Locus trekking app
- BTSync
Full access to the external SD for all those apps is indispensable to me and I was unable to get it with KitKat even though I applied all the fixes I was able to find AND used Carbon ROMs which are supposed to have this enabled to boot.
2. Only one app at a time has access to SMS box.
This is also not acceptable, because normally I send/receive SMS messages with GoSMSPro, but I also use MySMS to send/receive/type texts on my mobile through my laptop.
In KitKat each time I have to switch the default SMS app which defeats the purpose.
I would like to know whether there is there a fix for either of those problems, and whether those issues are likely to continue on Android L?
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Since the release of Android 4.4, I was unable to upgrade from 4.3 JellyBean because of two issues that completely disqualify newer Android versions for me:
1. Apps have no access to the external SD card.
This issues is NOT solved by moddification of /system/etc/permissions/platform.xml file
Examples of apps include:
- Sygic GPS navigation
- BeyondPod podcast manager
- Locus trekking app
- BTSync
Full access to the external SD for all those apps is indispensable to me and I was unable to get it with KitKat even though I applied all the fixes I was able to find AND used Carbon ROMs which are supposed to have this enabled to boot.
2. Only one app at a time has access to SMS box.
This is also not acceptable, because normally I send/receive SMS messages with GoSMSPro, but I also use MySMS to send/receive/type texts on my mobile through my laptop.
In KitKat each time I have to switch the default SMS app which defeats the purpose.
I would like to know whether there is there a fix for either of those problems, and whether those issues are likely to continue on Android L?
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Neither one of these things are problems or are broken things. They work as intended and have been explained as security measures. Annoying for some, yes, but this isn't a "bug".
http://www.androidcentral.com/kitkat-sdcard-changes
As far as the SD card, if you are rooted, which I am assuming because you mentioned playing around with the platform xml, there are a couple different ways to return full R/W functionality.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/kitkat-sd-card-access-t2790992
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.geeksoft.extcardpatch
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jrummy.sdfix
For SMS on the desktop, you might check out PushBullet. Their recent update has enabled replying to SMS, though not sure how well it works with Go, but they do support a variety of other solid SMS app connections.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pushbullet.android&hl=en
I am aware of Google's justification of breaking the SD card functionality. Whether we call it a “security measure” or “bug”, the fact remains I can no longer use a phone with KitKat to fulfil functions it used to, so to me it is no longer a smartphone.
The solutions you liked to I tried and they all failed to fix the issue. I have not tried the Xposed module, but I suppose it does the same thing as other “fixes” so I have little hopes with it.
As for PushBullet, it took me years to find MySMS which was then the only desktop SMS app that provided delivery reports. Are you aware if PushBulled does it, too?
In any case, this is a non-isue as long as there is no solution for the SD card.
Not sure why the SD card isn't "fixed" for you as it works for 1000s of others (including many of my customers), meaning there is something else going on - quite possibly how the apps were developed. Do ANY apps work right with the fix applied? And once again, no, it's not a bug, as it was done intentionally. If it is a must have and nothing else works, you can always convert the necessary apps to system apps, if you have room(you should).
I do not know what do you mean by „works”, but for all the programs I need on all the phones and KitKat roms I tried, SDcard DOES NOT work. This is even stated by developers of some of those programs (like BeyondPod).
To see if I am not mad, I just tried it again – I installed KitKat on another Samsung debvice. Latest version of GoBackup and BeyondPod could not write to SD card. 'Fine' – I think – 'I will install the Sdfix from PlayStore'. I did, and rebooted.
NOTHING changed!
KitKat is worse than a bug, because a bug is a accidental, and usually does not cause such gargantuan damage to functionality. What Google did with KitKat is worse, because it is deliberate.
This is ridiculous. If Android L changes nothing, I will have to keep all my phones with 4.3.1 forever, because of how useless Google made Android on devices with external SDcard.
Maybe they killed SD card functionality to force people to buy newer phones with huge internal memory, maybe they want to force people to use their cloud storage, or maybe they did it just out of pure mindlessness.
But they did, and - as I suspect - they don't plan to revert it.
Have you tried the fix for BeyondPod suggested by their team...?
http://beyondpod.mobi/android/help/FAQKitKatSDReadOnly.htm
Tried switching the apps to /system apps so they'll have more permissions?
es0tericcha0s said:
Have you tried the fix for BeyondPod suggested by their team...?
http://beyondpod.mobi/android/help/FAQKitKatSDReadOnly.htm
Tried switching the apps to /system apps so they'll have more permissions?
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Yeah, the fix they suggest does not work on KitKat, because you can't select external card.
I did not try to set BeyondPod to system app, but I can't do it with every app I want to use. Many apps refuse to even start if converted to system app status, and besides system partition is limited in size, and can hardly accommodate all apps.
impactor said:
Yeah, the fix they suggest does not work on KitKat, because you can't select external card.
I did not try to set BeyondPod to system app, but I can't do it with every app I want to use. Many apps refuse to even start if converted to system app status, and besides system partition is limited in size, and can hardly accommodate all apps.
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I have an idea on why none of the fixes are working for you...
Install this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524485
and try the mods again and reboot.
I'm not a 100% sure it'll help, but will only take a minute to figure it out... This step would also be necessary to make something like Xposed work properly on newer Samsung devices with Knox and all that security stuff they added.
Do you mean that SELinux may be preventing changes to the /system/etc/permissions/platform.xml file?
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Do you mean that SELinux may be preventing changes to the /system/etc/permissions/platform.xml file?
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Yes. It prevents a lot of different kinds of changes to the system.
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Yes. It prevents a lot of different kinds of changes to the system.
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Than this is not it, because the changes are being applied correctly and appropriate lines in the appropriate files are changed/added.
Which is why, when I try to apply yet another SDfix from the playstore, the program informs me there's nothing to do because the fix is already applied.
Just because the line is there doesn't mean something else isn't interfering. Just telling you what I would try, since it takes a minute or 2. *shrug* Haven't had a phone with an SD card in awhile so don't have anything to test it with.
Thanks, but it wouldn't take 2 minutes, because I don't have a phone with KitKat. And to install a KitKat and restore all the necessary data would take several hours.
So I might try it next time I give KK a shot, but I don't have high hopes for it because I think what I have with KitKat is what everyone else has - it's just most people either don't care about it or don't need the functionality.
Device:
ZTE Grand X (Bell Version) - Model Z933
Android 4.3
Kernel 3.4.0+
No root, stock everything.
I recently bought this ZTE Z933, and I've had some photos, videos, and music stored on the phone's storage for a while, and it worked fine.
Just in the past couple weeks, I put more videos, photos, and music onto an SD Card (4GB, FAT32) and put it into the phone, and now very often (almost daily) all of my picture browsing apps and music playing apps suddenly (and temporarily) are not able to detect ANY media on both the SD card and my phone's storage. But, if I browse my media through ASTRO or any other file manager, all the files are there and they work perfectly fine.
Rebooting the phone does nothing to fix this issue, and neither does accessing the storage through USB or unmounting and mounting the SD Card. For a while, the only fix I found was sometimes if I opened up one of my photos through ASTRO, and then closed it, about half the time it would temporarily fix the issue.
After a bit of searching, I found some threads on different sites about restarting the Media Scanner service (or something along that line) in Settings > Apps. I do not have this, but instead what I do have under Apps > Running > Cached, I have something called "Media", which, when I stop it and restart the phone, fixes the issue temporarily, but it works every time. The annoying thing about this is having to reboot, and losing all my ringtone and notification tone settings, and my playlists every time this happens.
Can anyone give me info on things to try? Or does anyone know of an app that will get me around this issue? (the phone has been reset pretty recently so I don't think that would solve it)
Any help would be very appreciated!
Hey how's it going? I to picked up one of these nice little phones and have yet to find anything as far as development on it, i.e root or any roms and ZTEusa has nothing on this phone. Every time I google it it shows another phone.
Its a great phone large screen and has quad core, if enough people post a wanted new thread on the request a thread forum we can get some help. There is a boot loader its just can anyone get root threw it. Also someone needs to try all of the towel root modstrings which are a lot and you might get it rooted. I really enjoy mine have had no problems with media, might be your sdcard is it an old one or a new one what class is it class10?
http://www.xda-developers.com/users-beware-zte-root-backdoor-found/
I just picked up this phone too.
Seems like root acess is simply password controled..
Maybe ztex1609523?
Anyone wanna jam that into an installer?