So Sony aren't famous for bringing out update to devices quickly
When do you think they'll release it for the z2?
My opinion? Next year, they've already teased the Z3 or " the next big thing" coming in Q4 which will probably have android L on top
I'd love to see what you guys think
J
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I don't think Z3 will have L. If it does, Z2 will get it just a month after the unveiling of the Z3.
PS Android L isn't even out yet, its still in dev preview. It'll take around 2-3 months for it to be finalized I believe. 3 weeks at minimum.
I agree. I can't wait to give it a go on my nexus 7
J
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Don't be so sure Z2 will get everything Z3 will have.
I bought Z2 and still have Z1 and believe me, Z1 doesn't have many things (at least not officially) Z2 have.
That's the Sony (new) policy...
6 month cycle and push new device like crazy for the few first months, then they forget that device and put all their capacities to new device....
That's the life...we'll have to accept that...
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I'm just waiting 'til a new CM or carbon rom comes out with Android L.
Sony has been not doing well with ART, so it will take a while for Sony to roll out Android L, I think.
I doubt we'll see L on the Z2 this year, not from Sony at least.
They have to put an ugly old-fashioned skin on it first...
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18 month support from sony for a flagship. Similar with samsung.
How long is CM taking to get kitkat stable which came out last Nov, over 6 months plus and still not there.
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When do you think they'll release it for the z2?
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Less important than if they will do it. They will.
funky0308 said:
Don't be so sure Z2 will get everything Z3 will have.
I bought Z2 and still have Z1 and believe me, Z1 doesn't have many things (at least not officially) Z2 have.
That's the Sony (new) policy...
6 month cycle and push new device like crazy for the few first months, then they forget that device and put all their capacities to new device....
That's the life...we'll have to accept that...
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Well, Z1 did receive Kitkat right after a month Z2 was unveiled. Here we are discussing next version of Android, not all the goodies.
Ofcourse most goodies will be there, I think Z has ALL the goodies Z1 has. Although Sony does release two flagships a year, the main focus is always the first one than the later.
Like Arc, S, Z and now Z2.
While Arc S, T, Z1 aren't so popular ones.
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They have to put an ugly old-fashioned skin on it first...
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The TouchWhiz and Sense are quiet old too. The only competitor I can think of which brings a new UI almost every year is LG.
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PS Android L isn't even out yet, its still in dev preview. It'll take around 2-3 months for it to be finalized I believe. 3 weeks at minimum.
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Your roast lamb tonight will need 1-2 hours more cooking time, 30 minutes minimum.
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Your roast lamb tonight will need 1-2 hours more cooking time, 30 minutes minimum.
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I don't eat lamb.
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I don't eat lamb.
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After checking out Android L I think it will be best for OEMs to ditch their skins and add addons using Play Store. Well as for Z2 goes our hope lies on CM and FXP team.
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Thanks it looks good
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It reminds me of a gutter on the side of a house.
Meanwhile, Xperia Z1 Compact surprisingly gets 4.4.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53709227
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Touchwiz renewed for more flat design this year. Also, Sense changed its style for Sense 6.
It's only Sony that hasn't changed its design for years
Xperias are always given a update contract which lasts anywhere between 6-36months Xperia Z2 is a flagship device meaning that it should get 1 year atleast and android L Is releasing soon so Z2 has to get
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Touchwiz renewed for more flat design this year. Also, Sense changed its style for Sense 6.
It's only Sony that hasn't changed its design for years
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Yeah man, Sony needs to update their UI style. But I would say they dump it in next update and bring stock. That will speed up the update time. I want them to follow Motorola way. See how quickly Moto G got the update to KitKat.
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What changes did Sense 6 bring?
Related
I see you have ambitions to become a much bigger player in the Android smartphone market, competing with the likes of HTC and Samsung.
Well, you have started doing the right things, for example, you have a great lineup of phones, and you offer the ability to unlock the bootloader (abiet forfeiting our warranty, but that's no different to what HTC do). However the key area in which you are failing is the key area where ALL Sony products fail. SOFTWARE.
If you truly want to get some mainstream love, you need to be investing in software, not just on mobile, on all your products. However on Android, you need to be talking about Jellybean, and you need to be aiming to get it out on your flagship devices before Samsung does. It's really that simple. If you demonstrate prompt and reliable software updates to the latest OS, then consumers will come.
You also have to understand, that now Jellybean has been out for several months, and there are devices already running it (abiet Nexus devices), it's always going to be a hard sell to try and sell a ICS based device, and you are going to get slaughtered by the press for this (much more than other companies doing the same, simply because you are Sony and you aren't American).
A small chance Sony reads this?
Try Sony forums.
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sorry... but till Gingerbread, the Sony (Erricson) software ist one of the best optimiced firmwares around... not that Big Bloatet batterydrain like HTC Sense **** and not so ugly and buggy like Touchwitz... And ICS is just startet and i belive in further FW Releaces, ICS will be great like Gingerbread Firmware.
i meen Samsung kicks out new releases very fast, but with uch more bugs like Sony. And when we talking about optimation - Sony kicks in the Ass of Samsung and HTC..
for real: no other firmware (im talking bout Gingerbread, not for the new ICS) is so fast, battery optimiced and beautiful like the Sony Stock Firmware...
i dont care about the newest of the newese from the newest (and if, here the XDA Devs has every newest ****t better than the Manufactures), i am carring about good working, good looking Software... thats the reason why im Changed fom HTC to Sony (Ericsson) and thats the reason why im stay with Sony (okay, there a couple of reasons more like Greenness)
let Sony a bit time to made a good Firmware out of ICS/JB - thats better than a to early, not good working Firmware
A perfect phone would have Sony's design, HTC's Sense (4.0+) and Samsung's hardware.
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A perfect phone would have Sony's design, HTC's Sense (4.0+) and Samsung's hardware.
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Are you kidding. Sense is a joke compared to Sony software or even default android.
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A perfect phone would have Sony's design, HTC's Sense (4.0+) and Samsung's hardware.
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I simply so love their design that I bought 2010,2011 and now 2012 Xperia Phone
JB coming to SGS2 in Sept-Nov, take note Sony
JB incomming...
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JB coming to SGS2 in Sept-Nov, take note Sony
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About same time for XPS. Sony is working hard on software quality and update speed.
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JB coming to SGS2 in Sept-Nov, take note Sony
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Samsung had promised "early 2012" ics for galaxy note.
How well that work out then?
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About same time for XPS. Sony is working hard on software quality and update speed.
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But Galaxy S2 is a previous generation phone that is going to receive JB. Will Arc S receive JB? Time will tell but for now all I hear is silence.
Don't get me wrong, I am a Xperia user but this silence is making me impatient with Sony. Looks and hardware can only get you so far without software support
I dont think that Sony makes our screens or hardware,so you shouldnt say that this is Sony fault.
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I dont think that Sony makes our screens or hardware,so you shouldnt say that this is Sony fault.
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Huh????
Sony design, build quality and camera is what keeps me using Sony handsets.
Obviously they don't make all the components that go in them. ( imagine the size of the factory they would need)
Apple source components from other companies as do all other handset manufacturers.
You are stepping out of the point of this thread though.
The point being made is that Sony are slow on the update scene.
And as we see from the replies, as usual we get an instant debate.
Yes...having the latest version of android is important to some. And yes it CAN be a deal breaker in the choice of handset to opt for but...
Anyone choosing a handset purely for a new OS isn't doing their homework or that impressed by hardware.
Same as someone choosing a quad core handset running gb isn't that interested in os.
I personally would like prompt updates to my OS but NOT if it is detrimental to the performance of my handset be it via bugs or tweaks that decrease functions in certain areas.
Ok so htc are quick to update but do you want an HTC?
Seriously?
They are ok but not as refined or pretty as the Sony handsets.
And their Desire Hd ( 1 of last years flagships) won't be getting ICS.
So that tells me that HTC are just as capable of OS issues as Sony.
Nexus are rebranded phones made by other companies.
They are only updated quickly because google push for it.
Doesn't mean they are better than Sony, Samsung, HTC ( which used to make the nexus handsets), or huwai. I will leave Motorola out of this list because they fail in hardware, OS and UI and updating areas. ( care to argue? Buy 1 and see for yourself)
Closing statement...
Why rush out a buggy Jelly Bean and get bad press when you can push out a polished Jelly Bean and get less bad press?
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Huh????
Sony design, build quality and camera is what keeps me using Sony handsets.
Obviously they don't make all the components that go in them. ( imagine the size of the factory they would need)
Apple source components from other companies as do all other handset manufacturers.
You are stepping out of the point of this thread though.
The point being made is that Sony are slow on the update scene.
And as we see from the replies, as usual we get an instant debate.
Yes...having the latest version of android is important to some. And yes it CAN be a deal breaker in the choice of handset to opt for but...
Anyone choosing a handset purely for a new OS isn't doing their homework or that impressed by hardware.
Same as someone choosing a quad core handset running gb isn't that interested in os.
I personally would like prompt updates to my OS but NOT if it is detrimental to the performance of my handset be it via bugs or tweaks that decrease functions in certain areas.
Ok so htc are quick to update but do you want an HTC?
Seriously?
They are ok but not as refined or pretty as the Sony handsets.
And their Desire Hd ( 1 of last years flagships) won't be getting ICS.
So that tells me that HTC are just as capable of OS issues as Sony.
Nexus are rebranded phones made by other companies.
They are only updated quickly because google push for it.
Doesn't mean they are better than Sony, Samsung, HTC ( which used to make the nexus handsets), or huwai. I will leave Motorola out of this list because they fail in hardware, OS and UI and updating areas. ( care to argue? Buy 1 and see for yourself)
Closing statement...
Why rush out a buggy Jelly Bean and get bad press when you can push out a polished Jelly Bean and get less bad press?
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really?
Sony's ics release on the xps was full of issues and so was there most recent release for the xperia p (gingerbread) that left the phone basically unusable as a phone!
people on here talk of 'lets wait and get a fully optimized release' and that it will be worth the wait but im inclined to not agree. Just my opinion of course but all the most recent phones i have had from sony (currently own xps) have had fantastic hardware and awefull software...to the point where actually i cant put up with it any longer and end up getting rid of it for something else. Im sure i wont be the only one in this regard also.
Great design and hardware etc will only go so far before the thing pisses you off so much that you cant put up with it any longer!
this thread is stupid
Hey everybody, this is a thread were you can say goodbye if you are going to leave your device.
Im leaving Xperia Ray now because I did get a good deal on Xperia U. I have liked to be a part of this awesome community, and I like the roms alot. The reason why I bought a new device is because FXP discontinued Xperia 2011 development, and I wanted a new and fast device.
Im leaving as soon as i find good deal.
Reason is that i dont like this small screen and now i need at least 3.5 inch screen.
This is great community and there are manny good mods.
mv_style said:
Im leaving as soon as i find good deal.
Reason is that i dont like this small screen and now i need at least 3.5 inch screen.
This is great community and there are manny good mods.
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Same here mate...getting bored with small screen... :/
I want 4+ inch...
I will leave when I'll get a new phone (hopefully a nexus)
And I won't have as much time as before because I want to do more in Nexus 7's forums :good:
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Three month later I will buy a xperia p or Go...
This small screen is making me crazy!no other problem
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I have Xperia Mini Pro.. And i'm planing to buy Xperia V, cos someone said before, small screen drives me crazy
Well, maybe i'll stuck in this section for a long time. Because i'm saving my money to buy a better PC.
Different from you guys, i don't like big phone, my damn hand are too small to use big screen. I just hoping you guys didn't get bored seeing me around. :thumbup:
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I also don't like very big screens.
4 inches is maximum for me,but it's such a big phone for me.
I think I will stay with my LwW atleast half a year.
But when I'll see a good deal,maybe I'll buy an newer Xperia from 2012 or 2013 series.
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But the phones are really small, you are right guys! If you own a tablet like a Nexus 7 you may notice it
I have Android 4.2.1 on my nexus 7 and on my sk17i and if I type on my N7 and answer a sms on phone I think: "The letters are too small to type on them?!" Next time I need a bigger screen! :good:
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galaxy s 3 fits perfectly in my hand while holding it.
I would like to get one of this
samsung gs3
samsung gs2
samsung galaxy nexus
samsung galaxy ace 2 (not good development)
samsung galaxy s3 (not good development)
lg nexus 4
sony xperia s
sony xperia p
Also I don't like big screens but I think 3.5~4 Inc is standard size.
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Yes,I totally agree with you.
if I buy a new phone....I would never sell my delicious mango....I don't care if its small size but it does the job..
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if I buy a new phone....I would never sell my delicious mango....I don't care if its small size but it does the job..
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very well said! :highfive: same here!
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if I buy a new phone....I would never sell my delicious mango....I don't care if its small size but it does the job..
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Yeah...me too...LWW is my first ever android phone...and the second touch screen phone I have...the first touch screen phone that I bought is Mix Walkman (actually I asked my dad to buy it )...that I was stupid enough to believe that it is an android because of it UI...
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At that time I was too excited that I didn't even bother to check it carefully... :silly:
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Yeah...me too...LWW is my first ever android phone...and the second touch screen phone I have...the first touch screen phone that I bought is Mix Walkman (actually I asked my dad to buy it )...that I was stupid enough to believe that it is an android because of it UI...
At that time I was too excited that I didn't even bother to check it carefully... :silly:
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lol u...even I bought mini pro with my 1st salary...
And it has helpned me to dev roms and mods..no way going to sell it
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*Sigh*
I already had to leave my Mini Pro. . What an awesome phone it was...
Might be leaving i moved to xperia tipo
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I leave because i buy Xperia U
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Might be leaving i moved to xperia tipo
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Why tipo?
I have a ray 2 month ago, but it was badly damage because it dropped from high place. I bought tipo just use to be temporary phone until I get new real phone. Just use about 1 day and I back to the shop and exchange with mini. Atleast mini get great support than tipo.
Looking forward on htc one x+ btw
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Hello forum.
I was wondering will this mdpi phones get Kit Kat (4.4) update. I own SE Live with Walkman and I was searching a little on google about this update and I saw that "outdated" phones will get this update too. So my question is: Is there anyone who can answer this question?
Thank You.
I think they will not get the upgrade to Android Kitkat. If Sony didn't give us the Jelly Bean then how about the Kitkat?
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Kiyongo said:
Hello forum.
I was wondering will this mdpi phones get Kit Kat (4.4) update. I own SE Live with Walkman and I was searching a little on google about this update and I saw that "outdated" phones will get this update too. So my question is: Is there anyone who can answer this question?
Thank You.
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if were lucky & find some one to develop it -to use- on our devices, like now mike with JB 4.3 does, maybe yes , but it wil be unofficial..
other point is the HW side if there big problems with some incombability or other probs even very good devs cant do nothing-
at now all is speculation. lets wait as big brother google releases the 4.4 repo than we can say SOMETHING aboth 4.4 on our devices
Hopefully someone will release a Rom
Our 2011 devices never get old :thumbup:
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Maybe you are right, but here (goo. gl/s1Myfp) they say that: "... Xperia mid-range phones: Xperia M, C, SP, L, S, SL, U and many more" will get this update. I don't know what day think with "many more" but I hope that they will make official update for our phones. Google says: For Android KitKat: “It’s our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody.”. I really hope that we will get this update
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Maybe you are right, but here (goo. gl/s1Myfp) they say that: "... Xperia mid-range phones: Xperia M, C, SP, L, S, SL, U and many more" will get this update. I don't know what day think with "many more" but I hope that they will make official update for our phones. Google says: For Android KitKat: “It’s our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody.”. I really hope that we will get this update
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i think many more just for Sony phone, not Sony Ericsson phone (like we use now :good but just hope for amazing developer made this update for our 2011 MDPI Xperia :victory:
Apparently KitKat will have a lower memory footprint than previous Android versions-but this is speculation as of now. Even so it is the kernel mainly which has lowered RAM usage hence if we (Xperia 2011) were to receive KitKat (which were not) then we would also need the new kernel-which obviously isn't going to happen. I personally don't see Sony updating older devices to KitKat even though it is more suitable for lower end devices-this includes our 2011 Xperia's but also 2012 Xperia's, I can only see the 2013 range getting updated to KitKat.
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Maybe you are right, but here (goo. gl/s1Myfp) they say that: "... Xperia mid-range phones: Xperia M, C, SP, L, S, SL, U and many more" will get this update. I don't know what day think with "many more" but I hope that they will make official update for our phones. Google says: For Android KitKat: “It’s our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody.”. I really hope that we will get this update
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LoL....SONY has left ERICSSON a long time ago so don't expect that SONY will give Xperia 2011 update for KitKat...
also your info is wrong....those Xperia mid range phone : M, C, L and T are getting android v4.3 not KitKat v4.4....even Sony high-end phone : Z, Z ultra, ZL, and ZR are getting android v4.3....
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LoL....SONY has left ERICSSON a long time ago so don't expect that SONY will give Xperia 2011 update for KitKat...
also your info is wrong....those Xperia mid range phone : M, C, L and T are getting android v4.3 not KitKat v4.4....even Sony high-end phone : Z, Z ultra, ZL, and ZR are getting android v4.3....
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yeah, agree sony will never do more a update on our PHONES :'( ....
our only hope is cm or private devs .... btw @iPusak Gaoq™ why xperia T is noted twice, once with update and one with NO update !?!?
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yeah, agree sony will never do more a update on our PHONES :'( ....
our only hope is cm or private devs .... btw @iPusak Gaoq™ why xperia T is noted twice, once with update and one with NO update !?!?
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Haha...probably a mistake in the table (putting Xperia T twice)
i believe if Xperia TX doesn't get an update then Xperia T won't get an update too....
How many updates where done by Sony for the Mini Pro, two? From Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich? Did they skip Honeycomb?
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How many updates where done by Sony for the Mini Pro, two? From Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich? Did they skip Honeycomb?
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Honeycomb was only for tabs,not for phones
Ah I see, thank you. So one update from Gingerbread to ICS. Was there ever a Sony device with longer support? I guess Nexus devices are the ones to choose if you want a long term support?
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Ah I see, thank you. So one update from Gingerbread to ICS. Was there ever a Sony device with longer support? I guess Nexus devices are the ones to choose if you want a long term support?
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Its not only about Sony. Samsung also does the same. its a clever tactic to promote the new devices made by the two companies by reducing long term support to older devices. That is where rooting,flashing custom roms come into picture. Of course,more than long term support NEXUS has lot of other advantages as well
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Its not only about Sony. Samsung also does the same. its a clever tactic to promote the new devices made by the two companies by reducing long term support to older devices. That is where rooting,flashing custom roms come into picture. Of course,more than long term support NEXUS has lot of other advantages as well
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Hmmm...ALL phone manufacture do the same, not just Sony and Samsung...its not clever tactic but it is just Marketing Strategy...every penny you spend buying a new phone is a profit for them...if they keep updating older devices for FREE to keep up with the current android evolution, then who want to buy their new phone lineup?? people will stick with their old devices rather than spending money to buy a new one...the more user stick with their old devices, the LESS profit the manufacture made....smartphone are not like a car....
Nexus in the other hand is different...Nexus is the FLAGSHIP for GOOGLE...as the FLAGSHIP, Nexus phone will always get the first/latest update from GOOGLE...
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Hmmm...ALL phone manufacture do the same, not just Sony and Samsung...its not clever tactic but it is just Marketing Strategy...every penny you spend buying a new phone is a profit for them...if they keep updating older devices for FREE to keep up with the current android evolution, then who want to buy their new phone lineup?? people will stick with their old devices rather than spending money to buy a new one...the more user stick with their old devices, the LESS profit the manufacture made....smartphone are not like a car....
Nexus in the other hand is different...Nexus is the FLAGSHIP for GOOGLE...as the FLAGSHIP, Nexus phone will always get the first/latest update from GOOGLE...
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Haha..did i say anything different?
Not from sony but custom roms would be soon available
Kiyongo said:
Hello forum.
I was wondering will this mdpi phones get Kit Kat (4.4) update. I own SE Live with Walkman and I was searching a little on google about this update and I saw that "outdated" phones will get this update too. So my question is: Is there anyone who can answer this question?
Thank You.
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kitkat is less memory hungry too Waiting for Cynogenmod
So i sold my note 3 30 minutes after posting it on craigslist. Ordered my new Xperia z Ultra from new egg and i have never been so excited for a device. I got the 6806 model so it will support ATT LTE. This is definitely the most money I have ever spent on a cell phone but screw it. After playing with it in the sony store for only a few minutes i was 100 percent sold. Cant wait till tuesday when my device arrives. Only question now is what do i do without a phone for the next couple of days?
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So i sold my note 3 30 minutes after posting it on craigslist. Ordered my new Xperia z Ultra from new egg and i have never been so excited for a device. I got the 6806 model so it will support ATT LTE. This is definitely the most money I have ever spent on a cell phone but screw it. After playing with it in the sony store for only a few minutes i was 100 percent sold. Cant wait till tuesday when my device arrives. Only question now is what do i do without a phone for the next couple of days?
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Welcome to your new life!!
Its a great device. I was going to do the Note 3 thing too... but the Ultra is just such a great looking unit!
You will be happy with the purchase...
oh... ohHH... don't get me started on 'next couple of days'... I've been without for 11 days now!!!
(my phone that is)
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Welcome. You're going to find that the support for the xzu won't be as diverse as the note however. I still choose the zxu.
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I love the z ultra there simply is nothing out there with the same portability that can do the same job amazing for a web browser it goes where my new iPad air cannot it really is unique in its own sense.I tried to sell it but I had second thought I would miss it too much I rate it very high against my iPhone 5s and nexus 5 it stands in the same league as them.
jutley said:
I love the z ultra there simply is nothing out there with the same portability that can do the same job amazing for a web browser it goes where my new iPad air cannot it really is unique in its own sense.I tried to sell it but I had second thought I would miss it too much I rate it very high against my iPhone 5s and nexus 5 it stands in the same league as them.
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Y'all got me debating now I was going to shoot for a note 3 or a nexus 5 but the z looks nice...thanks for the brain fart lol JP but I am debating now.
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dropofdreams2 said:
Welcome. You're going to find that the support for the xzu won't be as diverse as the note however. I still choose the zxu.
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I find Sony's support better than Samsung. We've had an update each month for 4 months, thats pretty good!
But more sheep will buy the note 3, so you are also more inclined to get a few extra developers.
In saying that I think we have a few good dev's here at present.. with more to come......
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Westnile said:
Y'all got me debating now I was going to shoot for a note 3 or a nexus 5 but the z looks nice...thanks for the brain fart lol JP but I am debating now.
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essentially this is what you have to decide....
-large unit, smooth UI, excellent camera, average build (Note3)
-larger unit, smoother UI, average camera, premium build (Ultra)
I also sold my Note 3 because of the disgustingly bad screen.
I made the right choice leaving samsung. Tomorrow I will get a Z1 to replace the Note 3 .
While I love the Ultra it's a bit to big for daily use which I will use the Z1 for :good:
SweFox said:
I also sold my Note 3 because of the disgustingly bad screen.
I made the right choice leaving samsung. Tomorrow I will get a Z1 to replace the Note 3 .
While I love the Ultra it's a bit to big for daily use which I will use the Z1 for :good:
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Compare to ZU, the Xperia Z1 is a joke in my opinion...The screen quality on Z1 is really bad and it get hot really soon after using for some minutes. Battery is not so good either...
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Compare to ZU, the Xperia Z1 is a joke in my opinion...The screen quality on Z1 is really bad and it get hot really soon after using for some minutes. Battery is not so good either...
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No screen issues here with Z1, my Z1 screen looks even better then the Z Ultra one in a store here lol and I don't have a hot Z1 even when playing games. But I don't play very heavy games
Anyway I'd choose Z Ultra over Note 3, like it's been said camera isn't as good as Note 3, but I wouldn't use it.anyway with a device this size, kinda looks ridiculous to take pictures with large devices
Anyway build quality and design are the key points to.choose ZU over Note 3. Sony interface is 100times more beautiful as Samsung interface (although this is something personal) and Sony feels very premium with the aluminium body and glass
And I'm here to develop, working on kitkat AOSP now
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maquan said:
Compare to ZU, the Xperia Z1 is a joke in my opinion...The screen quality on Z1 is really bad and it get hot really soon after using for some minutes. Battery is not so good either...
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People say the Z1 has washed out colours etc which I don't give a crap about. I'm tired of samsungs bad screens because they have this retarded unevenness, thick lines which makes the screen look damaged etc. All samsung phones gets hot really fast.
The battery can easily be tweaked. People complain about battery about all samsung phones etc but then I get 2 days out of it including Note 3. I get really good battery with my current Z ultra as well.
So I'm pretty confident. Another thing is the night and day difference between samsung and sonys phone. Sonys phone scream premium.
I would without a hitch sacrifice popping colours for better build quality etc. That's all samsung has going "popping colours" and then you have bad build quality, bad screens etc etc.
All in all, I'm extremely happy I went to sony after all these years with samsung ^^.
dropofdreams2 said:
Welcome. You're going to find that the support for the xzu won't be as diverse as the note however. I still choose the zxu.
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That why we have the forum:good:
That's what I meant though. The forum support for the xzu is less than what I have already seen for the note 3. I'm sure actual sony support is great and we can just walk into a retailer. I think that it's just because it's an incredibly niche market.
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Forum input is distressingly weak unfortunately.
I don't think the Ultra matches up to the Note 3, but... I wanted a 6"-6.3 plus screen and Note can't match that!
rockky said:
Forum input is distressingly weak unfortunately.
I don't think the Ultra matches up to the Note 3, but... I wanted a 6"-6.3 plus screen and Note can't match that!
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The Note III is pure trash =/.
SweFox said:
The Note III is pure trash =/.
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hmmm i don't know about that. i just sold it but not because it was trash at all.... it is a great phone but i like the zu's screen and size. The s pen feathers were great and very helpful with multitasking and notes.
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hmmm i don't know about that. i just sold it but not because it was trash at all.... it is a great phone but i like the zu's screen and size. The s pen feathers were great and very helpful with multitasking and notes.
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The build quality and screen is trash.
I love touchwiz though and the whole s-pen thing.
But I couldn't be happier changing now .
Note 3 is far from trash, that's for sure. But it is not my cup of tea though, Touchwiz is so u-g-l-yyyy.. Yeah feature is all around, but i really hate all those Samsung's color choices. Plus plastic is too cheap compared to the price we pay for, so the ZU is like more worth the money. Yeah the ZU doesn't have stylus, but unless you're an artist, almost 99% of person i saw with Note 2 NEVER use that stylus. So again, not my cup of tea.. Plus the Sony one is cheaper here than the note 3 (and it's not a Snapdragon ones in here too) so yeah XZU all the way!
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Note 3 is far from trash, that's for sure. But it is not my cup of tea though, Touchwiz is so u-g-l-yyyy.. Yeah feature is all around, but i really hate all those Samsung's color choices. Plus plastic is too cheap compared to the price we pay for, so the ZU is like more worth the money. Yeah the ZU doesn't have stylus, but unless you're an artist, almost 99% of person i saw with Note 2 NEVER use that stylus. So again, not my cup of tea.. Plus the Sony one is cheaper here than the note 3 (and it's not a Snapdragon ones in here too) so yeah XZU all the way!
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Just my personal opinion of course.
I've had Samsung all my life, as you can see in my sign I've had most of Samsung devices. I friggin LOVED the Note 3 when I first got it..
Samsung has a BAD screen problem which I've put up with all these years which made me finally do the big switch.
So when I now have my Z Ultra and Z1 and think, what does Samsung offer now? Nothing, they are pure trash in my eyes.
Sony is just better in all areas in my opinion. Yes, I miss the s-pen, I kinda miss their multitasking software etc. However, I don't miss them enough to go back to that garbage display they have.
The funny thing is that their display problem have been in every single phone they've released. So all in all with the display and disgusting build quality, they offer nothing that beats Sonys Z Ultra and Z1.
Just wanted to post an explanation ^^.
I just bought this phone ,i had several possibilities nexus 5,note3 or lg g2. My last phone was lg optimus g pro a nice phone but the lack of updates from lg made me to buy the SONY XZU.It has such an amazing display
One of the more idiotic statements on mobile devices I've seen....(but OK...it's 'pure trash'...eyes rolled so far back it hurts
We've had the N3 since release and it's extraordinary...best smartphone on the market.
Pure functionality is all I care about...hardware is secondary 4 me (except for camera..
Note 3 shines in every debt. I love the amoled screens..and N3's is fantastic. Miss it.
But....I really need a tablet, that can also function as a phone if need be, and the Ultra is just that for me.
QUOTE=SweFox;47166072]The Note III is pure trash =/.[/QUOTE]
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Article here.
Can't wait to get it on my ZU! @scrubber, start your engine! (i.e be prepared to port it, if you're up to the task)
I am also waiting for this update My port downloaded by 3000 people ... but not a single donation I did not get ... but I'll do a port if I can !!!
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I am also waiting for this update My port downloaded by 3000 people ... but not a single donation I did not get ... but I'll do a port if I can !!!
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Sweet! Yeah, this isn't the biggest or busiest forum section, so donations will be rare. That shouldn't stop people from doing what they love though (ROM cooking and developing)
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I am also waiting for this update My port downloaded by 3000 people ... but not a single donation I did not get ... but I'll do a port if I can !!!
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Your donation link is in Russian and didn't want to guess my way through, tried to use my PayPal app to send to your [email protected] and it errors out. Tried sending through PayPal website and failed to send also????
Ok, soon fix), but the task #1 port GPE 5.0
Sony confirms all Xperia Z series will get L - starting with the Ultra GPe.
The Z ultra will be the first Sony Z device to get Android L :http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...0-lollipop-will-come-to-all-z-series-devices/
According to Sony, the Sony Z Ultra Google Play edition is up first, which isn't a surprise. After that you can look forward to updates for the Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z1, Xperia Z1S, Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 Compact, Xperia Z2, Xperia Z2 Tablet, , Xperia Z3, Xperia Z3v, Xperia Z3 Compact and Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact. Awesome, right?
Sony's (non-GPE) upgrades will start in early 2015 with the Xperia Z3 and Xperia Z2 devices, and will continue on from there. I wouldn't be surprised if carrier integration held up a few OTAs, but at least Sony is committed to getting this done."
It would suck for us Z Ultra users to wait for the Z3, Z2, then Z1 devices to get 5.0 when we all know that the C68xx version will be sitting on the digital shelf before the Z3 release due to the C6806_GPe already having the OS would make for less work to get it straight to the unbranded C6806 before any other Z device.
It's nice to know that both the GPe AND Xperia models will get L. Someone could possibly make a ROM off of the GPe release of L before Sony releases the rom themselves for the standard Xperia Z Ultra.
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It's nice to know that both the GPe AND Xperia models will get L. Someone could possibly make a ROM off of the GPe release of L before Sony releases the rom themselves for the standard Xperia Z Ultra.
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Yup, that's the plan, so hopefully we'll have 5.0 on our Ultras shortly after the GPe, which will be in a couple of weeks (2-3?).
H. E. Pennypacker said:
Yup, that's the plan, so hopefully we'll have 5.0 on our Ultras shortly after the GPe, which will be in a couple of weeks (2-3?).
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How many people here have a GPe that is capable of downloading the OTA? I've never captured one, but I know how it's done. On sunday, I'm going to California for a few of months, and won't have access to a computer to grab the OTA URL. Maybe I can manage it
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How many people here have a GPe that is capable of downloading the OTA? I've never captured one, but I know how it's done. On sunday, I'm going to California for a few of months, and won't have access to a computer to grab the OTA URL. Maybe I can manage it
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You won't be able to use a computer for MONTHS? Where in the desert or the pacific will you be? :laugh:
Either way, the few GPe owners out there will show up here when the OTA rolls out. They always do.
H. E. Pennypacker said:
You won't be able to use a computer for MONTHS? Where in the desert or the pacific will you be? :laugh:
Either way, the few GPe owners out there will show up here when the OTA rolls out. They always do.
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My parents have a crappy old HP computer, but I guess I meant that I won't have one of my own around anywhere to use.
Visa Declined said:
How many people here have a GPe that is capable of downloading the OTA? I've never captured one, but I know how it's done. On sunday, I'm going to California for a few of months, and won't have access to a computer to grab the OTA URL. Maybe I can manage it
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I know of at least one developer that is active that has one. Maybe the release of L will draw @DooMLoRD out of retirement.
I have a gpe z ultra. How do i go about catching it?
I have a Z Ultra GPe. I'll try to remember to capture the zip before I hit update (can't promise anything with the excitement and all, though). Won't Sony post the new factory image online when they start to roll it out, though?
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Yup, that's the plan, so hopefully we'll have 5.0 on our Ultras shortly after the GPe, which will be in a couple of weeks (2-3?).
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I just hope the kernel doesn't cause issues. If @scrubber is busy with other nexus/GPe models I'll be giving porting L a crack.
blueether said:
I just hope the kernel doesn't cause issues. If @scrubber is busy with other nexus/GPe models I'll be giving porting L a crack.
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This doesn't pertain to L specifically but Sony has code for unified aosp kernel released.
http://developer.sonymobile.com/kno...droid-open-source-project-for-xperia-devices/
Just thought I'd give you guys a heads up. The 5.0 Google launcher (the one with the white app drawer) is extracted from today's dev preview, and I can report that I works just fine on the GPe ROM. It looks and works as expected. Nice. You can get the APKs (GNL and Google Search APKs) from Droid-Life.
Edit: Here it is.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/1...ces-multi-account-support-material-design-ui/
Disable voice recognition (OK Google) if you're getting FCs