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I apologize if this thread is a tad redundant, but I believe it goes beyond your run-of-the-mill glitches that one might post about in the ICS Bugs thread.
I got my OTA upgrade about 10 days ago, and since then my RAZR has been utterly useless.
The biggest problem is an obvious issue with power management. With GB I used to get almost a full day of heavy use. Now I get 2 hours, 3 if I'm lucky. I often find that the phone is extremely hot, as if the processor and radios are running at 100% for no reason.
Perhaps worse than that, it takes infinitely longer to charge than it used to. As in, 5+ hours to go from 0% to 100% -- and that's while the phone is powered off. Powered on, it'll take even longer.
I've experienced issues with almost every app, and with some I've had literally no success whatsoever. Facebook freezes half of the time before even loading up. The stock Browser will freeze a few times a day. Alarm Clock Xtreme freezes whenever I try to edit an alarm. Neither the stock Gallery nor third-party image apps will load up any of my photos without freezing. Google Talk won't initiate video chats. The list goes on and on.
Moreover, the phone will often just freeze outright. Sometimes the screen won't light up, regardless of how many times I press the power button. Sometimes the phone gets stuck on the home screen, and responds to nothing. Sometimes the phone becomes unresponsive, although pressing the capacitive buttons still triggers haptic feedback. Because of this, several times a day I just hold power+down to shut it off the hard way.
At this point, I actually avoid using it. It's that useless. It's more burdensome than it is helpful. It sucks because, when it's working, everything is really smooth and the ICS interface is really cool. I can tell it would be awesome, if only it worked.
Has anyone experienced such madness as this?
FYI, I'm running:
Android version 4.0.4
System version 6.16.211.XT912.Verizon.en.US
Baseband version CDMA_N_05.11.01PLTEDC_U_09.11.00
Kernel version 3.0.8-g29cf5e7, [email protected] #1
Build number 6.7.2-180_DHD-16_M4-31
I can't believe they would release something so unstable.
And yes I've gone into recovery and wiped the cache partition several times to no avail.
I admit there are some issues with the battery and heat and bugs, but i have not experienced any freezing with the stock browser or any program really, alarm clock extreme and it works for me, I don't use the Facebook app often but the few times i have, no real issues sometimes it lags trying to update. I will say thay the market SUCKS or play whatever they call it. Maybe you got a corrupt OTA file or something is wrong with your update installation. Maybe try doing a factory reset, i know that sucks to do but i do it before every OTA and im not really experiencing any of the software issues you are experiencing. If that doesn't help, root it and use the razr 1.7 utility to reinstall the system files.
Did you try to wipe the device (factory default)? It helped in my case.
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If you wana solution to some problems without wiping the phone, boot into recovery and wipe the cache, fixed my battery and a few other problems, It doesnt remove anything you have done, also it eliminated my lagg problem.
abw1987 said:
I apologize if this thread is a tad redundant, but I believe it goes beyond your run-of-the-mill glitches that one might post about in the ICS Bugs thread.
I got my OTA upgrade about 10 days ago, and since then my RAZR has been utterly useless.
The biggest problem is an obvious issue with power management. With GB I used to get almost a full day of heavy use. Now I get 2 hours, 3 if I'm lucky. I often find that the phone is extremely hot, as if the processor and radios are running at 100% for no reason.
Perhaps worse than that, it takes infinitely longer to charge than it used to. As in, 5+ hours to go from 0% to 100% -- and that's while the phone is powered off. Powered on, it'll take even longer.
I've experienced issues with almost every app, and with some I've had literally no success whatsoever. Facebook freezes half of the time before even loading up. The stock Browser will freeze a few times a day. Alarm Clock Xtreme freezes whenever I try to edit an alarm. Neither the stock Gallery nor third-party image apps will load up any of my photos without freezing. Google Talk won't initiate video chats. The list goes on and on.
Moreover, the phone will often just freeze outright. Sometimes the screen won't light up, regardless of how many times I press the power button. Sometimes the phone gets stuck on the home screen, and responds to nothing. Sometimes the phone becomes unresponsive, although pressing the capacitive buttons still triggers haptic feedback. Because of this, several times a day I just hold power+down to shut it off the hard way.
At this point, I actually avoid using it. It's that useless. It's more burdensome than it is helpful. It sucks because, when it's working, everything is really smooth and the ICS interface is really cool. I can tell it would be awesome, if only it worked.
Has anyone experienced such madness as this?
FYI, I'm running:
Android version 4.0.4
System version 6.16.211.XT912.Verizon.en.US
Baseband version CDMA_N_05.11.01PLTEDC_U_09.11.00
Kernel version 3.0.8-g29cf5e7, [email protected] #1
Build number 6.7.2-180_DHD-16_M4-31
I can't believe they would release something so unstable.
And yes I've gone into recovery and wiped the cache partition several times to no avail.
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Data wipe, itll fix it. If you dont want to.do.that then root and wipe the cache and dalvik cache.
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AndroidGreg said:
If you wana solution to some problems without wiping the phone, boot into recovery and wipe the cache, fixed my battery and a few other problems, It doesnt remove anything you have done, also it eliminated my lagg problem.
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This is step 1... see if this fixes it... if not, full wipe.
Erik
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syrnett said:
This is step 1... see if this fixes it... if not, full wipe.
Erik
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ICS is very different from GB, and Motonverizola tried really hard to get ICS to play well with existing GB cache data and GB settings. All of that stuff changed a LOT.
The problem isn't ICS: the problem is data conversion from GB to ICS.
Wipe the cache and dalvik. If that doesn't get it, then do a factory reset and set everything up again.
Mine runs for days with light use (1-3 hours a day), or a day+ with heavy use. It doesn't get hot, unless you mean that the other way. But that'd be kinda creepy.
Hi
This is my first post here at this forum and I'm not a Razr user but thinking about getting the Maxx because of it's hardware and big battery which fits my usage of a smartphone, I have a Galaxy S right now.
I have looked at some of the posts and screenshots of the battery usage on the new leaked/released ICS for the Razr and read about complains about the short lived battery and the devices that overheat, well, we had the same problem when GB has been released to the Galaxy S and that is all related to the Android OS app that is using the battery because it's got into a loop, this will not get fixed unless you make Motorola aware of the problem. I could be wrong but I think that is related to the dalvik-machine. Android OS should be using around a single-digit of the battery of all time (3%-7%), we don't have this issue anymore since Samsung fixed this bug in the later releases of GB firmwares.
A temporary fix of the Android OS is to reboot the phone when you can see that it's hijacking the battery, this is until Motorola fixes the issue.
I wish you all good luck and hope that you will get a better firmware soon.
Its always good practice to start fresh when accepting an update that big. Less variables = less problems.....
Id do a factory reset and start from scratch... that sux... i know, but so does a useless phone
Ics def wasnt all the hype.... but its also not that bad... just gotta start clean.
Good luck!
Complete disaster? How is it a disaster compared to my update? After the update I could no longer receive text messages, Consider the fact that I send a receive hundreds of text messages per day this is honestly the biggest cause of outrage I have with a flagship that can't perform even what a Nokia 6280 could, when I finally receive texts they come in 4 hours late and worse still, in DUPLICATES and I can't seem to find any solution to this as of yet. A factory reset fixes this for an hour at best but the problem suffices after that. Does anyone have a SOLUTION to this? Honestly driving me nuts
I agree with most others... do a factory reset. I always do after a major upgrade (and ICS is a major upgrade!)
Then check what apps you are putting on the machine; some cause issues. For instance, I put the new Starbucks 2.0 app upgrade on my phone yesterday - consumed battery like mad, phone ran hot (like cook-an-egg-on-it hot), runaway processes, etc. Turns out it was the new Starbucks app; after removing it the phone ran normal.
Otherwise I love ICS! So try the cache wipe; and if that doesn't help then do a factory reset and reinstall things. Takes time, but it saves in the long run.
Wow, this is crazy to hear. My update has been flawless but I did a factory reset after getting it. I bet if you did that it would fix 99% of your problems.
I also rooted after and now I'm running a cm9 rom. This is the best my phone has ever run.
Ultimately, even if you don't root you can fix most of these problems with a factory reset.
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Hold down the Home button to see what's running, download a task manager to see what's dominating the CPU. The phone won't get hot by itself, something is using up the CPU (like you said) if you don't want to factory reset you've got to figure out what it is. Rooting and setting the CPU governor to hotplug will save quite a bit in battery (shuts the 2nd core off when not needed).
I'm on a Canadian leak, the first day battery performance was terrible. By the 4th day, the battery lasted longer than GB
I concur with everyone here about the factory reset.
As other's have mentioned, going from GB to ICS is a major overhaul. I've read elsewhere what this really entails and it's not pretty. Suffice it to say, I backed up all my user apps and data (using Titanium Backup), saved off all other things that were on my internal SD card just to be safe and then applied the OTA update in stock recovery, wiped data and cache and rebooted. I then rooted, installed Safestrap and flashed Eclipse ICS v1.2 RC1 and restored my apps with TiBu.
I also tried stock ROM as well and restored my apps via TiBu.
In both cases, no performance issues nor forced closes. Runs like a champ.
I'm running the latest .214 leak and my battery life has improved over .211.
.214
Razr Maxx
I was having shorter battery life with the ICS .211 build and then updated to .214
My battery life is way better then it ever was with GB or ICS .211
I ran it the other day for 36hrs and 3 of it actually talking on the phone and had 20% battery life left.
It has currently been on for 4hrs 6 min and is at 90%. light email and phone use. I do have an IMAP email account that poles every 10 minutes with push for instant updates.
Mine is running fine after simple reboot
I am getting great battery life and my Razr Maxx is working almost flawlessly after the ICS OTA stock update. I just rebooted it shortly after the update when it was running hot and haven't had any problems since.
If .214 is even better, great.
Looking forward to Jelly Bean to get even more from my device.
Jeff
Was on the soak test and had the same battery problems. Only way to fix was via a factory reset. This did however fix all the problems.
Cant use motocast, it wont connect to my motocast on my mac. So i cant sync my media. How to solve this?
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
As mentioned I have tried booting into recovery and clearing the cache, but it doesn't help.
Some have suggested wiping the dalvik cache. However I don't see that as an option in the recovery menu. Do I need to root to have that option? Excuse my newness to this.
Worst case I guess I'll just have to do a factory reset
abw1987 said:
Thanks for the replies everyone.
As mentioned I have tried booting into recovery and clearing the cache, but it doesn't help.
Some have suggested wiping the dalvik cache. However I don't see that as an option in the recovery menu. Do I need to root to have that option? Excuse my newness to this.
Worst case I guess I'll just have to do a factory reset
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Its under the advanced menu.
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A couple of months ago I installed the AOKP ICS rom Then JB and found it about as good as you could want, but this is not about how good the rom is. I have been flashing a couple of years and know enough to get by. As much as I loved the rom i was almost ready to flash back to stock because I was unable to get any battery life. I would always use at least 8% at night and up to 15% during the day. I just couldn't understand how so many people were saying they were getting great battery life. I went through all the posts and tried every option i could find, watching wakelocks every time I picked up the phone, changing my router settings, turning off everything on the phone that made it a great phone. When I originally installed ICS I did a total factory reset, cleared all cashes. Spent hours reading everything I could find about battery life problems. When i flashed JB it was the same thing. I have been flashing the updates every week. Clearing everything every time.
Last night i was about done and figured I would try this one more time. I downloaded the rom and Gapps again, but this time i did a factory reset 3 times and cleared the cashes 3 times. Then when the system was installed I downloaded clean apps from the the Play store. I installed everything normal, all sync settings on, the phone is set up just like you would want it with full functional apps. This morning I woke up and checked the battery and it was down 2% for 5hrs! That is the best I have ever seen and I think about all you could ask for. The history had no wake locks, No awake times when the phone was sleeping. Now at 10 hrs and and 5 hrs of lite use I am at 82% and still no wake locks or anything unexpected by any apps like I always had before. Google Now is running, sync is on, like I said the phone is set up normal not everything shut off.
I am not saying that you need to clear everything 3 , 4 or 10 times when you flash a rom or not use TI to restore your Apps. What I am saying is, if after flashing a rom you are not getting good battery life or you are having any strange lock ups with your phone THEN start from scratch and make sure every app on your phone is perfect. BTW my phone was getting terrible battery life but working as smooth as butter all the time. I didint have to wait 3 battery cycles to get get 10 hrs out of my phone, it worked as I said from the start. If you phone isn't doing as good as other people are and your not expecting to get 2 days with 10 hrs of screen time, Clean out everything and start over, esp on a Rom like AOKP, these phones should work GREAT and it only takes one bad app to kill things.
So listen to the developers and clean house if things aren't right !!!!!!! It takes more time at first but over the last 2 months I have spent about 10 times more trying to fix the phone.
Do some of you other users get 8+ hours of screen on time? I got my i777 around launch time and I don't think I have seen over 4hrs of screen on time. I have tried a lot of different ROMs, like aokp, shoshock2, and currently cm10, and my general consensus is 3+ hours is good.
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Do some of you other users get 8+ hours of screen on time? I got my i777 around launch time and I don't think I have seen over 4hrs of screen on time. I have tried a lot of different ROMs, like aokp, shoshock2, and currently cm10, and my general consensus is 3+ hours is good.
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Never seen 8 hours with stock battery. Max I have gotten is 5 and a half. I could probably get more on Shostock but I was on AOKP JB
I'm going to have to do this tonight. I'm really not looking forward to it though because I've been trying to unlock things in Fruit Ninja but I want to get this thing working right so that's how it goes.
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SteveO390 said:
I'm going to have to do this tonight. I'm really not looking forward to it though because I've been trying to unlock things in Fruit Ninja but I want to get this thing working right so that's how it goes.
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Just back up data
im going to try this, i was using the wipe 3 or 4 times method when i had a sony x10 phone a year ago and it seemed to make a difference.
aokp is a really great rom and on the previous version my phone could last a full 24 hours (about 9 of those hours probbaly not really any use)
latest version the battery is a bit trippy for me so im going to try this and i wont be surprised if this is all true.
thanks!
Just an update. 16 hrs, 1 hr screen 69% battery left.
To SteveO I would not restore any apps you have with a backup. If you do the complete wipe it seems that the Play store actually downloaded all the Apps fresh on its own. I think that may have something to do with really getting a clean plate. I have wiped many times and only one other time did the Play store auto load my apps.
I also recommend wiping internal and external storage everynow and then. Backup pics, music and the such
franksig said:
Just an update. 16 hrs, 1 hr screen 69% battery left.
To SteveO I would not restore any apps you have with a backup. If you do the complete wipe it seems that the Play store actually downloaded all the Apps fresh on its own. I think that may have something to do with really getting a clean plate. I have wiped many times and only one other time did the Play store auto load my apps.
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I had a feeling that's what you meant, to NOT restore a back up.
As for the "auto load" from the Play store, are you referring to when it asks you on start up if I want to restore my apps from Google Play you're suggesting I say yes, correct? Is that what you did?
I was planning on making a list of what's on my phone now and manually downloading each one and installing.
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So what's the point here?
In order to get great (or better in this case) battery life of AOKP, do
1. wipe 3 times
2. install and run one of the clean app from Google Play. Which app, actually?
For some reason, I "feel" that after performing TB backups (user data backups), the battery life gets worse.
There really isnt any "point". I was just letting others know what i did to GREATLY increase my battery life. I dont think it has anything to dowith this ROM. I think if you flash any Rom and your not happy with the Battery life it may be a bad apk that doesnt get cleaned out with the normal route.
I advise installing ALL your apps clean, not any one.
I mentioned that the PLAY store automatically offered to reinstall all my apps after this clean wipe. Other times i have flashed it didnt do this so it makes me think that for some reason something doesnt really get cleared as we think it should, again no expert, only telling what i found after about 20 Rom flashes over the last couple of years.
votinh said:
So what's the point here?
In order to get great (or better in this case) battery life of AOKP, do
1. wipe 3 times
2. install and run one of the clean app from Google Play. Which app, actually?
For some reason, I "feel" that after performing TB backups (user data backups), the battery life gets worse.
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I just had a really good test of this procedure. My usb port crapped out so I returned my phone for a warranty replacement.
My old handset has been laggy since upgrading to Jelly Bean. I'd always restore apps through Tibu, only restored data on a few apps.
Fresh clean I777 stock Sammy, runs smooth on ICS.
Newly rooted, AOKP 11/9, basic GAPPS and the same Tibu restore => laggy.
So I factory reset, wiped everything including internal storage, let Play restore my apps, input all the app data manually, and this phone is smooth.
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Since I switched to AOSP based ROMs I've noticed that my launcher drastically slows down after awhile of uptime. I've been on a number of different ROMs using both Nova and Apex Launcher all with the same results. Rebooting the device fixes the issue but not restarting the launcher.
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Well, technically, these aren't phones anymore. These are small handheld computers that, oh BTW, can also make a phone call. They will need a reboot from time to time. I usually reboot my phone every 2 or 3 days to keep it snappy and I also wipe the cache and dalvik from recovery like once a week (more frequent then other people, I know) to also keep things snappy.
Keeping the phones up-time like a week at a time or more you might start to see it get sluggish.
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Well, technically, these aren't phones anymore. These are small handheld computers that, oh BTW, can also make a phone call. They will need a reboot from time to time. I usually reboot my phone every 2 or 3 days to keep it snappy and I also wipe the cache and dalvik from recovery like once a week (more frequent then other people, I know) to also keep things snappy.
Keeping the phones up-time like a week at a time or more you might start to see it get sluggish.
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It occurs a few times each day.
So, after 8 months of use, my M8 is finally in a situation where I'm kind of sick of it running so poorly. In the past I've always had these issues over time, but I always contributed it mainly to running custom ROM's. Well, when I got my M8, it ran so well I decided to leave it stock. Well it's finally starting to hit a wall and it's more of a frustration than a joy to use. Swype is borderline impossible to use since it lags so bad, freezes are infrequent but occur, etc etc.
So my question is, what are the most likely contributors? Apps that run in the background? Too many apps? Too much space used? I can't think of much else, since, like I said, it's still fully stock. Or is this just what I have to expect from a phone?
Do you clear the cache in your app settings. If you game a lot than I would definitely start with the game apps first.
Cachemate for root users
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...chemate&pcampaignid=APPU__rOUVPowg5TJBNTAgKAD
Android 5.0.1 is pretty lag free in my opinion
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So, after 8 months of use, my M8 is finally in a situation where I'm kind of sick of it running so poorly. In the past I've always had these issues over time, but I always contributed it mainly to running custom ROM's. Well, when I got my M8, it ran so well I decided to leave it stock. Well it's finally starting to hit a wall and it's more of a frustration than a joy to use. Swype is borderline impossible to use since it lags so bad, freezes are infrequent but occur, etc etc.
So my question is, what are the most likely contributors? Apps that run in the background? Too many apps? Too much space used? I can't think of much else, since, like I said, it's still fully stock. Or is this just what I have to expect from a phone?
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I kept my phone stock for quite some time because I felt I didn't need to change anything, until last week because I was tired of radio issues. Bottom line, ATT sucks at getting updates out, so if your running stock, your firmware is like three updates back. I see a massive improvements in speed and battery with 3.28.1540.5. If you know how, I would S-OFF and upgrade firmware to that and flash the debloated custom stock Rom that comes with root and SU. There are straight forward instructions in the att m8 development thread.
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I kept my phone stock for quite some time because I felt I didn't need to change anything, until last week because I was tired of radio issues. Bottom line, ATT sucks at getting updates out, so if your running stock, your firmware is like three updates back. I see a massive improvements in speed and battery with 3.28.1540.5. If you know how, I would S-OFF and upgrade firmware to that and flash the debloated custom stock Rom that comes with root and SU. There are straight forward instructions in the att m8 development thread.
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I might look into this. What I don't get though.. I can understand if new updates are quicker. That makes sense. What doesn't, is how ridiculously poor my phone runs compared to the first few months I had it. It's been like this for every phone I've had. I don't game, I don't have all that many apps. In my running app list, the only self installed things there are Facebook and Swype. I have plenty of extra storage internal and on my SD. So what is it that causes such poor performance over time? I'll definitely have to check out the newer roms and finally s-off.. but I've done plenty of custom roms before with other phones and the same thing always happens, things run fine for a bit and then slowly go to crap.
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I might look into this. What I don't get though.. I can understand if new updates are quicker. That makes sense. What doesn't, is how ridiculously poor my phone runs compared to the first few months I had it. It's been like this for every phone I've had. I don't game, I don't have all that many apps. In my running app list, the only self installed things there are Facebook and Swype. I have plenty of extra storage internal and on my SD. So what is it that causes such poor performance over time? I'll definitely have to check out the newer roms and finally s-off.. but I've done plenty of custom roms before with other phones and the same thing always happens, things run fine for a bit and then slowly go to crap.
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Its hard to say what is causing your issue, and aside from saying Swype is lagging (might be an issue with that app itself) and the phone "doesn't run so great anymore" you really haven't provided any specifics of what the problem is. You also haven't indicated if you tried to clear cached as jball suggested, and if so, if it helped at all.
Might be some runaway (poorly coded) AT&T bloat apps. But in general, apps running in the background will not slow the system down much. There are various apps to track battery and memory usage, so you might try one of those, to determine if any particular apps are the culprit.
I can't say I've seen any lag on my M8, but I switch ROMs fairly occasionally, and keep it updated to current Android builds (thanks to s-off). Clearing up your data partition alone might help (but might now, on the other hand) so you might also consider backing up any personal data and doing a factory reset. Wiping the slate clean might solve your issue.
Ok.. well a lot info there but one step at a time. I realized my phone is Sunday unusable with Wi-Fi turned on.. which is quite interesting and I'm pretty lost on this one. With Wi-Fi on, it's like my entire phone stops, not just the actual internet speeds. Apps like Facebook take ten seconds just to load, and then the actual content takes sometimes 15 seconds to load or maybe not even at all. Also, keep in mind, my actual internet speeds are fine, and even test perfectly fine on my phone.
As soon as I turn off Wi-Fi, it seems everything on my phone I'd dramatically quicker and everything loads near immediate. I've tried restarting my phone, cycling airplane mode, not really sure what else to do.
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Ok.. well a lot info there but one step at a time. I realized my phone is Sunday unusable with Wi-Fi turned on.. which is quite interesting and I'm pretty lost on this one. With Wi-Fi on, it's like my entire phone stops, not just the actual internet speeds. Apps like Facebook take ten seconds just to load, and then the actual content takes sometimes 15 seconds to load or maybe not even at all. Also, keep in mind, my actual internet speeds are fine, and even test perfectly fine on my phone.
As soon as I turn off Wi-Fi, it seems everything on my phone I'd dramatically quicker and everything loads near immediate. I've tried restarting my phone, cycling airplane mode, not really sure what else to do.
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Does it happen anywhere you use WiFi? If so maybe try fully wiping and flashing the firmware, or just bust out the ruu to make it easier, can't hurt to try it should help tho
Did you even try to wipe cache, as has been suggested twice previously?
Otherwise, if no major system changes, and the phone has just been running worse and worse, a factory reset may help; as I would have to think it may be 3rd party apps that are to blame. Backup your personal data, factory reset, and just start to install a minimum of apps, and see how it runs.
If still no improvement, the above comment to try to RUU is not a bad idea, either. RUU provides a fully "blank slate" and may solve your issue.
My Nexus 9 is running slow most of the times and it takes while to I switch between apps or open an app most of the times...what is the fix for that? I have been trying clearing the dalvick cache several times but no help...and I really don't have lots of apps. Thanks for your help in advance.
arminvm said:
My Nexus 9 is running slow most of the times and it takes while to I switch between apps or open an app most of the times...what is the fix for that? I have been trying clearing the dalvick cache several times but no help...and I really don't have lots of apps. Thanks for your help in advance.
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try flash custom kernel..the memory management is very good with custom kernel
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arminvm said:
My Nexus 9 is running slow most of the times and it takes while to I switch between apps or open an app most of the times...what is the fix for that? I have been trying clearing the dalvick cache several times but no help...and I really don't have lots of apps. Thanks for your help in advance.
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Try tapping on 'Memory used by apps' on that memory settings screen, should let you know what the culprit is
Choochter said:
Try tapping on 'Memory used by apps' on that memory settings screen, should let you know what the culprit is
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Firstly, you need to face the fact that 2GB was a bad decision by Google for this tablet. There is nothing that we can ever do about that. :crying:
If you want to stay on stock, Chrome is the main culprit in consuming Ram. Switching to Habit Browser makes things better as well as changing your DPI to 288. Do a search on XDA regarding this. Whilst it improved things, it was still not enough for me.
I snapped a week ago and have now rooted and flashed CM13 and stuck with Habit. I've been using a few days now, and for the first time, I can keep my 3 Fantasy Premier League Tabs open, (they are huge,) without constant refreshes, redraws and lag. :victory: Right now, I feel for the first time, I'm getting what I paid for and the Nexus Experience. The only bug so far, is that always listening doesn't work.
If you've just bought this tablet, I'd consider returning it if you are not prepared to root. The performance will never be acceptable on stock.
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My Nexus 9 is running slow most of the times and it takes while to I switch between apps or open an app most of the times...what is the fix for that? I have been trying clearing the dalvick cache several times but no help...and I really don't have lots of apps. Thanks for your help in advance.
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Clearing dalvik cache will do precisely ONE thing and ONLY one thing; make it take a long time to boot next time as it regenerates it.
Ignore the amount of available memory. People who are concerned about the amount of free memory are trying to apply bad mswindows knowledge to Android. Totally different and no comparison. UNUSED MEMORY IS WASTED MEMORY!!!
So here is how memory management works in Android; it *preloads* everything that it thinks you are most likely to actually use, so that when you DO use it, it is more likely already loaded and starts up very quickly. If you are switching to something that is NOT already loaded, then it just needs to dump lower priority programs out of memory, which basically only takes a few nanoseconds (billionths of a second). So that is NOT it.
If your device is acting slowly, then you need to figure out what the actual cause is. Trace the CPU utilization with something like the "top" command (the one with busybox is a lot nicer than the one that comes with Android) while you are experiencing slowdown. You can also look to see if there is excessive I/O happening (i.e. read/write to the internal storage), and of course, some software will require a network exchange before it will start up -- nothing you can do about network lags.
kacang87 said:
try flash custom kernel..the memory management is very good with custom kernel
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Thanks. I am still on the official rom, I probably should switch.
Choochter said:
Try tapping on 'Memory used by apps' on that memory settings screen, should let you know what the culprit is
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I have done it several times. As I said, I really have not so many apps and just the very common google apps are installed.
Masteryates said:
Firstly, you need to face the fact that 2GB was a bad decision by Google for this tablet. There is nothing that we can ever do about that. :crying:
If you want to stay on stock, Chrome is the main culprit in consuming Ram. Switching to Habit Browser makes things better as well as changing your DPI to 288. Do a search on XDA regarding this. Whilst it improved things, it was still not enough for me.
I snapped a week ago and have now rooted and flashed CM13 and stuck with Habit. I've been using a few days now, and for the first time, I can keep my 3 Fantasy Premier League Tabs open, (they are huge,) without constant refreshes, redraws and lag. :victory: Right now, I feel for the first time, I'm getting what I paid for and the Nexus Experience. The only bug so far, is that always listening doesn't work.
If you've just bought this tablet, I'd consider returning it if you are not prepared to root. The performance will never be acceptable on stock.
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Thanks for your reply. Yeah, most of the times, the slow down happens while I am in chrome and browsing..it actually is not snappy at all in internet browsing...however, I remember it was back in the days that I had bought it.
No, I have this Nexus 9 since last May I think, but have not yet found the time to root it and flash a custom kernel and rom . Anywyas, I have done it previously for my other devices, so not that much rookie in it. Probably will give it a try,
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Clearing dalvik cache will do precisely ONE thing and ONLY one thing; make it take a long time to boot next time as it regenerates it.
Ignore the amount of available memory. People who are concerned about the amount of free memory are trying to apply bad mswindows knowledge to Android. Totally different and no comparison. UNUSED MEMORY IS WASTED MEMORY!!!
So here is how memory management works in Android; it *preloads* everything that it thinks you are most likely to actually use, so that when you DO use it, it is more likely already loaded and starts up very quickly. If you are switching to something that is NOT already loaded, then it just needs to dump lower priority programs out of memory, which basically only takes a few nanoseconds (billionths of a second). So that is NOT it.
If your device is acting slowly, then you need to figure out what the actual cause is. Trace the CPU utilization with something like the "top" command (the one with busybox is a lot nicer than the one that comes with Android) while you are experiencing slowdown. You can also look to see if there is excessive I/O happening (i.e. read/write to the internal storage), and of course, some software will require a network exchange before it will start up -- nothing you can do about network lags.
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Thanks for your kind reply and explanation.
I think that is exactly the problem as even sometimes switching between the apps that I have just opened is also so slow and the nexus lags badly....Yes, I am aware of the network lags, but the problem I was talking about does not have anything to do with it...I will try the command you said, but can I run it on stock rom? I have not yet rooted my nexus nor flashed a custom rom.
Thanks
arminvm said:
Thanks for your kind reply and explanation.
I think that is exactly the problem as even sometimes switching between the apps that I have just opened is also so slow and the nexus lags badly....Yes, I am aware of the network lags, but the problem I was talking about does not have anything to do with it...I will try the command you said, but can I run it on stock rom? I have not yet rooted my nexus nor flashed a custom rom.
You can do some investigation by watching the processes and seeing which are taking the CPU and memory on stock. The problem is, when you find out, there isn't much you can do about it.
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You can do some investigation by watching the processes and seeing which are taking the CPU and memory on stock. The problem is, when you find out, there isn't much you can do about it.
Its quicker and easier to just install a custom rom where this type of work has already been done for you. :victory:
Lately, I've discovered that loading Chrome immediately raises my CPU temp by 30+ degrees. Sometimes that's enough to make things run really slow
Yeah, I agree...I will try to fimd sometime amd go over flashing a custom rom. ??
Yes! I habe noticed that these slow downs mostly happen when I am browsing in Chrome...
Web browsers are DEFINITELY a source of slowdowns.
The problem, more often than not, is actually *javascript* that is written by MORONS. Even on a desktop machine, you can watch the web browser for CPU and RAM utilization, and it just grows and grows and grows until you finally kill the process and start a new one.
What this may come down to is actually quite simple; the CPU in the Nexus 9 is actually more suitable for use as a stovetop than an actual CPU. These things get way too hot way too fast. If you beat on them with a web browser, they'll get hot and throttle down to low/verylow frequency, which will make them generally unresponsive. So if that is what is happening to you, there really end up being a few options to deal with it;
1) disable javascript in the browser,
2) don't use the browser,
3) improve the ability to disperse heat from the CPU.
For #3, you may note that when it gets hot, it is pretty localized to the corner of the device up near the power button. An easy solution to distribute heat better might be something simple, like adding a layer of copper foil to the inside of the back cover. The thicker the copper foil the better. Copper is very good at conducting heat, so this would spread the heat around over the entire area covered by that foil. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Copper-Foil...nductive-Adhesive-Ship-from-USA-/162018486132
I also found chrome was slow starting up, switching tabs etc. Found that logging out of my Google account in chrome improved this. Seems that synching tabs etc triggers the pause. This might be an acceptable workaround for some but I appreciate it isn't a great fix if you want to use that feature. Actually I'm not bothered as I think Google know too much anyway. �� But the underlying problem is this tablet... I don't have this problem on my phone.
doitright said:
Web browsers are DEFINITELY a source of slowdowns.
The problem, more often than not, is actually *javascript* that is written by MORONS. Even on a desktop machine, you can watch the web browser for CPU and RAM utilization, and it just grows and grows and grows until you finally kill the process and start a new one.
What this may come down to is actually quite simple; the CPU in the Nexus 9 is actually more suitable for use as a stovetop than an actual CPU. These things get way too hot way too fast. If you beat on them with a web browser, they'll get hot and throttle down to low/verylow frequency, which will make them generally unresponsive. So if that is what is happening to you, there really end up being a few options to deal with it;
1) disable javascript in the browser,
2) don't use the browser,
3) improve the ability to disperse heat from the CPU.
For #3, you may note that when it gets hot, it is pretty localized to the corner of the device up near the power button. An easy solution to distribute heat better might be something simple, like adding a layer of copper foil to the inside of the back cover. The thicker the copper foil the better. Copper is very good at conducting heat, so this would spread the heat around over the entire area covered by that foil. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Copper-Foil...nductive-Adhesive-Ship-from-USA-/162018486132
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Yeah, they do get hot...and the browser is the problem, I agree...however, I think they are not the main reason...there is something wrong with low memory or maybe some apps...
astralbee said:
I also found chrome was slow starting up, switching tabs etc. Found that logging out of my Google account in chrome improved this. Seems that synching tabs etc triggers the pause. This might be an acceptable workaround for some but I appreciate it isn't a great fix if you want to use that feature. Actually I'm not bothered as I think Google know too much anyway. �� But the underlying problem is this tablet... I don't have this problem on my phone.
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Haha, I agree...google already knows a lot!..thanks
arminvm said:
Yeah, they do get hot...and the browser is the problem, I agree...however, I think they are not the main reason...there is something wrong with low memory or maybe some apps...
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I don't agree with that.
We use our N9's *all of the time*, and there is never any perceptible slowdown. Possibly with the exception of straining them with web browsers, but web browsers are... poopy... on EVERY platform and device, so that doesn't really stand out. Typically just minimize the use of web browsers and all is well.
Web browsers were good in 1996 when they were simple things to display an html website. Since then, they've added all kinds of useless crap to them that bloat them out, hog up tons of memory, and just generally make them into a useless waste of space.
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I don't agree with that.
We use our N9's *all of the time*, and there is never any perceptible slowdown. Possibly with the exception of straining them with web browsers, but web browsers are... poopy... on EVERY platform and device, so that doesn't really stand out. Typically just minimize the use of web browsers and all is well.
Web browsers were good in 1996 when they were simple things to display an html website. Since then, they've added all kinds of useless crap to them that bloat them out, hog up tons of memory, and just generally make them into a useless waste of space.
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I know..but everyone knows that N9 should be faster!...
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Update:
I think I have kind of find the problem of low speed of my Nexus 9...I uninstalled an app that was for weather prediction and from that time on my Nexus 9 is very fast and responsive...No problem so far. I also uninstalled some other apps alogaide that which I was never using them,so I am not sure if the weather app was exactly the reason of the slow downs...but the other apps where just some games or some simple apps....well, I hope this information helps! Let me know your idea. Thanks everyone
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