Ok so here we go its more of a cool idea but does anyone know if that will work?
Can i buy a docking station (computer one as in the ones with ethernet port monitor outputs i.e.) use my OTG cable and connect the phone to 2 monitors lets say ?
At work I`m using my laptop to connect to a server anyhow and using 2 additional monitors so was wondering could i do that with a phone - mainly will it support the montors?
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mishooo said:
Ok so here we go its more of a cool idea but does anyone know if that will work?
Can i buy a docking station (computer one as in the ones with ethernet port monitor outputs i.e.) use my OTG cable and connect the phone to 2 monitors lets say ?
At work I`m using my laptop to connect to a server anyhow and using 2 additional monitors so was wondering could i do that with a phone - mainly will it support the montors?
Regards
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For anything to work you'll need an MHL adapter that sends your display through the usb port - A simple OTG won't work..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HNPtech-HDMI-TV-out-Xperia-Adapter-Black/dp/B00JIWVXSE
Once you have MHL output (To HDMI) you can connect it to a monitor! Not so sure about 2 monitors at once though..
linjes said:
For anything to work you'll need an MHL adapter that sends your display through the usb port - A simple OTG won't work..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HNPtech-HDMI-TV-out-Xperia-Adapter-Black/dp/B00JIWVXSE
Once you have MHL output (To HDMI) you can connect it to a monitor! Not so sure about 2 monitors at once though..
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Yeah the question now is can i do 2 ... certainly the device can support it since it runs its own screen whiles being connected so will have t try.
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I was wondering how do you go around to surf the internet on your big screen tv and also use an external usb mouse/keyboard?
I would need a "Micro USB Host Mode Cable" to hook the mouse/keyboard to the phone AND I also have to use a "MHL Adapter Micro USB To HDMI Converter" to see the phone in the tv and both use the one and only usb micro from the phone... Is anyone using a usb hub with usb micro to usb micro connections? Has anyone tried to use a regular usb hub to connect more than one usb device? Do you need to be rooted to do this?
I guess one option is to find a bluetooth keyboard/mouse but that seems to be expensive...
Thanks!
I know that most people us the MHL adapter for hdmi and bluetooth for keyboard and mouse.
Is there a list anywhere as far as which bluetooth mouse/keyboard works fine? I hate to go that route since I will be using the phone this way at both home and work. I dont really want to be hauling the keyboard/mouse back and forth. At least if I could connect using the usb I could use bluetooth on one place and usb in the other....
Anyway, if you can point me out to where there is a list I will appreciate it...
I still like to hear if anyone is doing this just using usb...
Anyone knows a list of proven bluetooth keyboards/mouse?
Guess not.
Check out this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488557
I bought this keyboard and mouse and it works great. You can buy it for $44 shipped (they will accept your offer).
Multi-touch is a no go, but it is still pretty slick.
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Could this phone potentially be able to charge, be HDMI out and be connected to a keyboard and mouse all at the same time? Or can you only do some of these features? I Saw the video of the phone being connected to multiple devices but how about everything all at once?
SlimJ87D said:
Could this phone potentially be able to charge, be HDMI out and be connected to a keyboard and mouse all at the same time? Or can you only do some of these features? I Saw the video of the phone being connected to multiple devices but how about everything all at once?
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It cannot be connected to MHL and USB OTG at the same time, but you can do everything you mention with an MHL adapter (which has, and requires, a charging input in order to be able to use it), and a bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
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It cannot be connected to MHL and USB OTG at the same time, but you can do everything you mention with an MHL adapter (which has, and requires, a charging input in order to be able to use it), and a bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
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So you're telling me that it can only do Video out or read/write to USB devices but can't do both at the same time?
The reason I ask is because I'm thinking of designing a board with its own power source so that it only requires to read information from the 11 pins to accomplish everything.
I want to charge the phone, have a few USB ports and a HDMI port and have the phone interact with all. I just don't know the specs of the board or what is going on. Maybe I need to get in touch with superico.
If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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anyone?
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According to some of wikipedia entries it should be possible to use mhl and usb otg at the same time with a 11-pin mhl-hdmi adapter.
Wikipedia said:
11-pin MHL-USB Connector
The Samsung Galaxy S III uses a connector that is similar to the original 5-pin MHL-USB connector, but it uses 11-pins in order to achieve a few functional improvements over the 5-pin design.
It supports the use of USB and MHL simultaneously (note that the new Samsung 11-pin MHL-HDMI adapter also has a USB-OTG port).
Samsung’s Galaxy S III can power the MHL-HDMI adapter. Although this can theoretically also be done with the standard 5-pin micro-USB connector, the Galaxy S III's 11-pin connector is believed to be the first smartphone that supports this functionality.
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Here you go.
So, it should work. But I couldnt make it work at the moment
I also got one of these 11-pin connectors and like it seems only the S3 has these adapters, so why the **** doesnt it work?? :/
I already asked sammy on facebook, just wondering what they will answer^^
Hopefully we will have some pos. results, dude.
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If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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How would that work since the micro USB connection on the mhl cable is for power / charger?
In those YouTube videos is it possible that they have the mhl cable connected to the TV and power source, and the keyboard and mouse connected wirelessly via Bluetooth?
Confused because you said USB Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. From what I know they aren't USB.
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Samsung should eventually release a dock to use both so unless someone figures it out first you'll just have to wait, because if it just took an 11 pin USB cable someone would have got it working already and we'd know about it, so I reckon it might have some extra circuitry to make it recognised by the phone.
Guys, as I already posted, the connector has 11 pins, so it should be possible to use OTG and MHL features at the same time. thats the only reason sammy brought out this connector and also cause of incompability with the 5-pin connector.
So they should bring the f*ck out somethin for the phone that activates this feature.
And a big problem I have with my mhl-connector is that I cant configure the output
on my 2 TVs at home I get 1080i, (both only 1080i capable), but the picture is kinda oversized so I cant see 100% percent of the picture, only 90% or smt like this.
But the funny part is, that I get on my 1680x1050p PC monitor only 576p screen, what actually sucks So it would be awesome if I could choose the resolution I want to have. But I guess its a thing of the connector (maybe it choose the resolutions iself).
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so the one in the videos using keyboard and mouse are bluetooth thru phone?
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I am SO HARD waiting for THAT "DOCK" hopefully will came out any day soon.
They should do iut fast. I'm waiting so hard for everything get connected with my Phone. It will be awsome if I don't need my Pc anymore.
To use the MHL cable you must have power connected to the adapter.
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If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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That's damn funny because I have wanted to know whether that would work as well, lol.
Did seriously consider trying but as I was on holiday if they broke, I wouldn't be able to get replacement so didn't try it.
In theory I would think it could work, but only if you could somehow wire in power to the hdmi adapter as it appears to need that to run the hdmi aswell as provide power to the phone, at least enough that once the usb adapter tries to demand power to run it isn't enough for the phone to output.
As to whether this is just a a stupid guess and assumption of how the devices and being a noob, I don't know.
If you can get a micro female to male adapter with a usb splitter for power then technically I can't see why it wouldn't work if the limitations are physical as oppose to software based (whole other issue I have no clue about).
EDIT: Wow, when I started that post no one had replied, err, seems a little redundant now, lol. My bad. Also, this 5 minute wait to point this out, have seemed really long...
guess we'll have to wait for that dock.
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Hey there, i have tried gathering information about this subject and it seems all threads always lead to this announcement:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/29/galaxy-s-iii-new-mhl-connector-also-enables-usb-on-go/
Short: Samsung have changed to an 11 Pin-out to enable USB OTG and MHL Hdmi out at the same time. I purchased an original HDTV Adapter (EPL-3FHUBEGSTD) which as far as i can reliably count indeed has about 11 connectors inside the USB connector that goes into the phone.
Now, i can get HDMI out just fine, but ONLY when i also connect the MHL adapter to a power source (a PC USB Port will do fine), however i have also read, that the phone is able to power the MHL adapter itself but obviously would not be charged then (no surprises there). This does not work however.
Further, connecting a USB OTG cable to the micro usb port on the MHL adapter does nothing. No notification and no devices connecting. No power either, since the LED on my USB Hub does not light up as it should. Connecting any devices to the hub does nothing to change that situation. If i leave out the MHL adapter and connect the USB OTG cable directly to the phone, everything works perfectly. I have tried this with 2 different OTG cables so they are not the problem.
This is an original genuine HDTV Adapter for our phones, which according to that post should be working fine with USB OTG.
AFAIK, this topic --does-- come up more frequently now as i can find a few more discussions about it, albeit none really helpful:
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...-of-11-pin-mhl-connector-in-samsung-galaxy-s3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743128
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803079
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link#11-pin_MHL-USB_Connector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811435
That wiki entry is the most interesting link as it definitely states that using MHL and USB OTG simultaneously is possible and is also the reason why the 5 pin layout was changed to an 11 Pin layout.
Looking forward to reading your replies!
the ability to use MHL and OTG simultaneously would give the S3 so much more purpose. It is powerful enough to replace a desktop computer used only for light stuff like browsing and watching videos, and even simple gaming. If samsung made a dock like the one for the motorola atrix I'm convinced they will broaden their target group. The atrix got everything right with this but is inferior hardware wise. I love the idea of a one device for everything concept. Unfortunately it doesn't rhyme very well with the growth society.
Love the MHL and the OTG is even better only after I got the correct cables as the cables changed on S3 to the S2 version, unlimited space for watching films on my phone is now awesome and even better connecting it to to the TV just need a good dock,
is there perhaps any expert advise on this? According to multiple sources it should work but really doesnt. Did i buy the wrong mhl adapter?
I think they will only both work together when being used with an MHL enabled tv. That way the power comes from the tv and the usb on the adapter can be used for the usb-otg cable.
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But if i connected the MHL with the s3. Would sound come out of my phone AND my TV or just my TV. If it justs comes out of my TV, then can i hook up my bluetooth headphones and listen to my video or it would not allow me?
Thanks
joysleep said:
But if i connected the MHL with the s3. Would sound come out of my phone AND my TV or just my TV. If it justs comes out of my TV, then can i hook up my bluetooth headphones and listen to my video or it would not allow me?
Thanks
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I think you already got a reply in the other thread on this, you should use subscriptions.
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I think you already got a reply in the other thread on this, you should use subscriptions.
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It wasnt clear.
No1 knows the actual answer to this questions. Really frustraing
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It wasnt clear.
No1 knows the actual answer to this questions. Really frustraing
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Ah ok sorry! Afaik you should be able to choose your headphones as primary audio source in the bluetooth settings. I know I can choose what I want to be output to my bluetooth headset, but I don't own an MHL adapter so I don't know about that. Someone with one should be able to try it, and if they don't own a bluetooth headset/pair of headphones they could try with wired ones and see what happens.
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Ah ok sorry! Afaik you should be able to choose your headphones as primary audio source in the bluetooth settings. I know I can choose what I want to be output to my bluetooth headset, but I don't own an MHL adapter so I don't know about that. Someone with one should be able to try it, and if they don't own a bluetooth headset/pair of headphones they could try with wired ones and see what happens.
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I have recently received an MHL connector (5 pin type) and the samsung 11 to 5 pin adapter for it. I can confirm that if I plug my OTG cable into it, and then into my powered USB hub, I can get the MHL to work just fine, both video and audio. The OTG cable powers it just fine, but does NOT allow me to use other devices attached to the USB hub.
I am still researching. I suspect you need to bring all 11 pins off the phone with a splitter of some sort, or possibly wire data lines through the MHL. Probably not with the 5 pin MHL connector and 11 to 5 pin adapter, but with the full 11 pin MHL adapter. I am not up to that level of hardware hacking. I suspect whoever does it first can sell a BUNCH of them!
Oh, and I have a Moto Lapdock for my Raspberry Pi, and would love to hook my S3 to it too!
Scott
I'm trying to connect my Tab S6 (SM-T867V) to my Logitech mouse, but as soon as I connect the OTG cable to the Tab, even before the mouse controller is insterted, I get a notification that says USB connector connected and then it switches to USB connector disconected and just keeps flipping between the two notifications every few seconds seemingly endlessly. I tried the otg cable with my Note 9 (SM-N960U) and it works perfectly fine with my mouse. The Tab and Note prompt me with charging/file transfer when the otg cable is hooked into the Note and connected to the Tab via a usb c cable so that seemed to work fine. The tab also works normally when charging and using a usb c to hdmi adapter, so I don't think it's a port issue. Both devices are on One UI 2.1 and both have USB 3.1 type C 1.0 reversible connectors, so I'm really confused as to why I'm getting this bug. If anyone has a solution, I would greatly appreciate it!
Why not use a hub like a uGreen one ?
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Why not use a hub like a uGreen one ?
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Are those not just OTG cables with multiple outputs?
DroidBabies said:
Are those not just OTG cables with multiple outputs?
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Lol my bad! So what makes is your OTG ?
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Lol my bad! So what makes is your OTG ?
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No longer for sale, but it was sold by bargain depot on Amazon https://www.amazon.ca/Bargains-Depo...dp/B071FGVWQV?ref_=d6k_applink_bb_marketplace
DroidBabies said:
No longer for sale, but it was sold by bargain depot on Amazon https://www.amazon.ca/Bargains-Depo...dp/B071FGVWQV?ref_=d6k_applink_bb_marketplace
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My Goodness that is trash! i'm suprised that it works on your Note 9! Mate purchase a uGreen or any decent USB hub! Plus make sure it's got (PD) Power Delivery port!
N1NJATH3ORY said:
My Goodness that is trash! i'm suprised that it works on your Note 9! Mate purchase a uGreen or any decent USB hub! Plus make sure it's got (PD) Power Delivery port!
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I didn't think about PD making a difference, but maybe you're right. My usb c to hdmi does support PD, but the power wasn't plugged in when I tried it and it still worked tho ?
But either way, I ended up purchasing a bluetooth mouse instead just because it's more useful to have one for my tablet rather than unplugging my laptop's every time I take the tab somewhere. I will keep this in mind for if I need to add more accessories later, so thanks for the info.
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I didn't think about PD making a difference, but maybe you're right. My usb c to hdmi does support PD, but the power wasn't plugged in when I tried it and it still worked tho ?
But either way, I ended up purchasing a bluetooth mouse instead just because it's more useful to have one for my tablet rather than unplugging my laptop's every time I take the tab somewhere. I will keep this in mind for if I need to add more accessories later, so thanks for the info.
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Yep i'm using a Microsoft Bluetooth Arc Bluetrack mouse + Keychron K1 Wireless Mechanical Keyboard, and a uGreen hub Awesome for out and about setup! Mate if you spend some good cash from the get go you wont have issues down the road. Well that's how i see it!