Hi,
Has anyone used the original s- view filp cover, particularly black one. Its kind of costly so, I am not sure if its worth its value or should I go for cheap OEM filp covers.
Please comment on its pros or cons.
I've just ordered one. If it arrives and for you is even more interesting I can write an overview.
Please do
I'm also interested in knowing what it can do, particularly if it locks/unlocks the phone when closing/opening. One other thing would be the wireless charging, but I got my hopes down for that...
I already have that flip cover but i didn'n likes its look just like an old phone book and when putting this flip cover i feel the phone looks smaller than without any case .It's totally my view point it depends
It's a little expensive but I think it worth it. It protects the phone well and it does not add much bulk to the phone.
To me one the best features is that I no longer have to have a lock screen on my phone. The phone wakes up when I flip it open and goes into "S-view mode" when I close it and then back to sleep. This mean I can just pull it out of my pocket, flip it open, no need to swipe, do what I have to do and then close it. It make checking things a snap. Also since it protects the screen when I'm not using it I dont use a screen protector.
The s-view mode is also nice. In my case I use it to snap quick pictures and start playing music without even opening the case.
eddi003 said:
It's a little expensive but I think it worth it. It protects the phone well and it does not add much bulk to the phone.
To me one the best features is that I no longer have to have a lock screen on my phone. The phone wakes up when I flip it open and goes into "S-view mode" when I close it and then back to sleep. This mean I can just pull it out of my pocket, flip it open, no need to swipe, do what I have to do and then close it. It make checking things a snap. Also since it protects the screen when I'm not using it I dont use a screen protector.
The s-view mode is also nice. In my case I use it to snap quick pictures and start playing music without even opening the case.
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i quote... it's also very comfortable and the backside of the cover feels better than the original.
The utility of the s-view is -software-side - a little poor IMHO. When you receive a SMS message, the s-view shows it but then you have to open the cover to read all the message. It will be useful also reading mail from s-cover or interact with the IRDA sensor like a remote.
Using s-view for taking memo is also very limitative...the display is not very sensible and the s-pen doesn't work flawlessy.
However, is the best cover for note 3 neo/lite...
edit: can't change the wallpaper of the s-view cover...grrrrrrr....only default colors...
Can someone post a photo of a s cover electrical connection to n3n back. Thanks
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Can someone post a photo of a s cover electrical connection to n3n back. Thanks
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Here a photo:
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Thanks,
Does this cover have wireless charging ?
djlech said:
Thanks,
Does this cover have wireless charging ?
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I don't check this.
djlech said:
Thanks,
Does this cover have wireless charging ?
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I don't think so.
Whem i'm right, the golden contacts have something to do with auto sleep/wake up.
Yeap that is right but in Note 3 the top two side contacts can be used for Qi charging.
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Oh, thank you for this info
Does it hog battery? Or is it battery friendly? I have "Rock elegant s view cover" and it hogs on battery life as it doesn't have any hardware.. just an app which works on proximity sensor.. so the app is always active in the background.. and uses more battery than the screen does..
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Evil Eye said:
Does it hog battery? Or is it battery friendly? I have "Rock elegant s view cover" and it hogs on battery life as it doesn't have any hardware.. just an app which works on proximity sensor.. so the app is always active in the background.. and uses more battery than the screen does..
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I have the original S View cover. In replying to your question it does not consume the battery - at least it's not noticeable.
The contacts on the rear part of the cover are for open - close sensor. They are in touch with two contacts in the phone back.
I don't think there is a possibility of wireless charge in Note 3 Neo.
I compared my N7502 with the "full" Note 3 of my friend. "Full" Note 3 it has 5 contacts on the phone back, Note 3 Neo has just two.
Moreover the Flip Cover for "full" Note 3 exists in 2 versions, two prices. One, cheaper, is just with open close sensor - that's my friend's one - with 2 contacts. The other one, more expensive, I suppose with 4 or 5 contacts supports both open - close and wireless charge.
Note 3 Neo has only one version of the cover, with 2 contacts as the phone has only 2 contacts on the back.
The only problem with this cover in case of my DUOS version is if I have the option "Always ask" enabled (concerning the SIM I want to use for make a call), the choose window does not appear in the cover square window, I have to open it to make my choice. I hope it will be corrected with the new firmware.
Thanks mate.. will get the S View cover then
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Hi all,
Got my original S-view cover.
The build quality is really good. It will definitely save your phone if you accidently drop it.
With the cover closed we can receive/reject call, access camera, music player and Action memo. And also see number of missed calls and messages.
However with the cover on we can't see the notification light, which is kind of annoying.
Not sure what the two pins are for on the back. Pretty sure they are not for the s-view function, because my grand 2's cover don't have any pins and still the s-view works fine. Are they for wireless charging?
sourabhkejriwal said:
Hi all,
Got my original S-view cover.
The build quality is really good. It will definitely save your phone if you accidently drop it.
With the cover closed we can receive/reject call, access camera, music player and Action memo. And also see number of missed calls and messages.
However with the cover on we can't see the notification light, which is kind of annoying.
Not sure what the two pins are for on the back. Pretty sure they are not for the s-view function, because my grand 2's cover don't have any pins and still the s-view works fine. Are they for wireless charging?
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Hey, your're RIGHT !!!
I did a small experiment after reading your post. I detached the cover, put a small piece of paper to insulate the contacts and the S View still works indeed !
In this case it must be the wireless charging - no idea what else could it be ?
The best would be to make a try by putting a covered phone on a wireless charger, unfortunatelly I have no access to such one :/
Guys i need your help! I have the s cover,and i cant take a note with the cover on! Whenever i try i get that stupid pop up which you have to click the box and then press ok.However i only see the box, but not the button and as a result i get it every time! I tried making the font smaller but still.... Anyone know a solution?
T.R.S. said:
Guys i need your help! I have the s cover,and i cant take a note with the cover on! Whenever i try i get that stupid pop up which you have to click the box and then press ok.However i only see the box, but not the button and as a result i get it every time! I tried making the font smaller but still.... Anyone know a solution?
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Looks as it's not implemented in the firmware, same as the SIM choice window when trying to make a call with the cover closed...
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The Samsung Galaxy Mega 5.8 & 6.3 only have an LCD screen, not the super AMOLED like galaxy S4, so it's not possible for this case with the quick view window to be functional, as shown in the pictures.
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The Samsung Galaxy Mega 5.8 & 6.3 only have an LCD screen, not the super AMOLED like galaxy S4, so it's not possible for this case with the quick view window to be functional, as shown in the pictures.
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http://www.expansys.com/info.aspx?i=250819
As you can see there is official case with possibility of quick view... what's the difference?
The difference is with the SUPER AMOLED screen, the phone is able to turn on/off different sections of the display, giving the "s view" the capability. That is not possible with an LCD display. Samsung has not released an official case/ window for this phone.
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That's disappointing. I ordered the case thinking the phone could do the "s-view" thing. I'm still waiting for it to be delivered. The strange thing is that Samsung is advertising an s-view case for the Mega 6.3" phone on their website below:
http://www.samsung.com/in/galaxymega/#accessories
On this particular site, they show both the 5.8" and 6.3" version of the Mega. When you click on the accessories link for the 5.8" version you will see a regular flip case as an available accessory. However, when you click on the accessories link for the 6.3" version, you will see both a regular flip case AND an s-view case as available accessories.
If the Mega 6.3" phone is not capable of handling s-view then they shouldn't even advertise an s-view case as an available accessory. It's almost like advertising a bluetooth headset for phone that doesn't have bluetooth. That's really bright (lol).
The only thing it would be good for is seeing the info that shows on the lockscreen when you turn the screen on (it looks like it would show in the window area of the s-view case) - that would be missed calls, new messages, etc. and the notification bar at the top. If wtjra70 is correct, we would not get real s-view functionality like the screen automatically turning off when the case is closed,like only the s-view window area of the screen turning on while the flip case is closed, like automatically reducing the size of the notification info into the s-view window, like the touchscreen functionality through the conductive plastic window, etc..
http://www.expansys.com.gr/info.aspx?i=250820
i dun really understand what is sview does ..i did bought the case ..when i flip close the case it does show the time for 5 SEC ..and when i flip on the case the phone will auto unlock the lock screen ..
kotty said:
i dun really understand what is sview does ..i did bought the case ..when i flip close the case it does show the time for 5 SEC ..and when i flip on the case the phone will auto unlock the lock screen ..
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It sounds like part of the s-view functionality but it's not enough information to be certain. Please clarify.
Which phone model do you have, the GT-i9200 or the GT-i9205?
Is the time the only thing you see in the s-view window? You don't see info on messages or emails in the s-view window? What do you see in the s-view window when a phone call comes in?
Is your screen lock enabled but the s-view case automatically overrides your screen lock and unlocks the phone when you open the flip?
With the flip closed, is the touchscreen active? For example, can you swipe to answer or reject a phone call through the s-view window?
The answers to these questions should give us more of an idea as to whether or not the phone supports true s-view functionality. Apparently, the LCD screen on these phones can't support s-view functionality. Strangely enough, one of Samsung's website for this phone lists the s-view case as an available accesory. I am trying get a definitive answer on whether the phone fully supports the functionality or not before shelling out $60 on the case. Not sure why Samsung would advertise the s-view case as an accessory for this phone if the phone doesn't support the functionality. I hope it does support it but I'm not sure.
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It sounds like part of the s-view functionality but it's not enough information to be certain. Please clarify.
Which phone model do you have, the GT-i9200 or the GT-i9205?
Is the time the only thing you see in the s-view window? You don't see info on messages or emails in the s-view window? What do you see in the s-view window when a phone call comes in?
Is your screen lock enabled but the s-view case automatically overrides your screen lock and unlocks the phone when you open the flip?
With the flip closed, is the touchscreen active? For example, can you swipe to answer or reject a phone call through the s-view window?
The answers to these questions should give us more of an idea as to whether or not the phone supports true s-view functionality. Apparently, the LCD screen on these phones can't support s-view functionality. Strangely enough, one of Samsung's website for this phone lists the s-view case as an available accesory. I am trying get a definitive answer on whether the phone fully supports the functionality or not before shelling out $60 on the case. Not sure why Samsung would advertise the s-view case as an accessory for this phone if the phone doesn't support the functionality. I hope it does support it but I'm not sure.
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I'm using i9205 LTE set from singapore .
yes it overrides the screen lock and unlock the phone when i open the flip ..
when flip close it will lock and display the clock .
i can answer the phone by swipe to answer
if there is unread SMS there is a small icon on the bottom right .
i try lift open a bit the flip and take screen shot for your guys reference .
S-view window case
kotty said:
I'm using i9205 LTE set from singapore .
yes it overrides the screen lock and unlock the phone when i open the flip ..
when flip close it will lock and display the clock .
i can answer the phone by swipe to answer
if there is unread SMS there is a small icon on the bottom right .
i try lift open a bit the flip and take screen shot for your guys reference .
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I for one would be "excited" if the full functionality is there, If Samsung offers the s-view case, I'd believe them, but what I don't see is Samsung talking about this function except for selling the acc. I've watched many videos, and read many articles about the Galaxy Mega 6.3, and not one single mention of this function is being available.
I'm 80% sold on the 6.3 when it comes to Sprint (SPH-L600), My only problem is.....Can my Motorola Photon 4g hold for just a few more months.
kotty said:
I'm using i9205 LTE set from singapore .
yes it overrides the screen lock and unlock the phone when i open the flip ..
when flip close it will lock and display the clock .
i can answer the phone by swipe to answer
if there is unread SMS there is a small icon on the bottom right .
i try lift open a bit the flip and take screen shot for your guys reference .
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That's great, it appears to have true s-view functionality which would lead me to believe that s-view is more software dependent than hardware dependent. I know the samsung s-view case has some type of magnets in it which has an effect on the functioning of s-view on the screen (I'm not technically savvy on this but I read it).
Kotty,
Sorry for all the questions but did you buy the Nillkin s-view case or the Samsung s-view case?
Does your case replace the back cover of the phone or does the case snap over the existing back cover of the phone?
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wtjra70 said:
I for one would be "excited" if the full functionality is there, If Samsung offers the s-view case, I'd believe them, but what I don't see is Samsung talking about this function except for selling the acc. I've watched many videos, and read many articles about the Galaxy Mega 6.3, and not one single mention of this function is being available.
I'm 80% sold on the 6.3 when it comes to Sprint (SPH-L600), My only problem is.....Can my Motorola Photon 4g hold for just a few more months.
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I hear you. I haven't seen it advertised anywhere as a feature of this phone and I checked Samsung's site, all of the review sites like phonedog, phonearena, pdadb, phonescoop, gsm arena, youtube reviews, etc.
If Samsung doesn't mention it, you would like to think it's not a feature. I bought the Nillkin case online (haven't received it yet) but was wondering if I might have needed to buy the Samsung case. However, I won't shell out $60 for the samsung case if I can't get s-view functionality and neither will I shell out $60 if I can get the functionality using the Nillkin case ($11). Form my understanding, the Galaxy Mega has the same version of android as the Galaxy S4 so perhaps a lot of the s-view functionality is in the software and is not hardware dependent and we would just not have any portion of s-view that is hardware (AMOLED screen) dependent.
yes using nilkin case snap on as the picture at 1ST post ..
I finally received the case yesterday. It definitely has s-view functionality. With the flip closed I have access to information such as the time, battery status, the current music playlist, caller ID, sms/email notifications, etc. through the s-view window area
The information resizes itself to the s-view window area. The screen reacts to opening and closing the flip without having to press the power button. Also, when the screen is on and the flip is closed, only the s-view window area is on (I lifted the flip slightly to see if the rest of the screen was on - it was NOT).
[How-to get partial flip-cover function on AOSP] This is no longer needed.
- Remember that this will require a magnet inside the case's lid.
Hey guys!
I was fiddling around with our sensors tonight and I figured out the magnetometer is working in our device.
So I researched the Market and found an exciting application called Magnet Unlocker.
This application supports a lot of different ways to lock/unlock a device. Including with the use of a magnetic field.
Anyways, I did a lot of settings options and I cannot for the life of me get the application to both use Lock and Unlock, the unlock/lock processes get's jammed up in each other and starts to lock/unlock within seconds of eachother, so I basically use only unlock, since that's the most handy when I look at it. The device can still turn off by itself after a set time due to lacking user interaction.
With the settings I give you here, I have at least made the tablet turn on when the lid is flipped off the screen. The built-in dispay off setting is taking care of turning off the screen(in my case 1 minute after I close the lid)
So I present to you a small image guide on how to reach optimal settings.
I hope this is useful to you.
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Nice find!
For those willing to spend a few minutes, I was able to get both cover Lock and Unlock working quite easily with Tasker and Secure Settings (Paid + Free). Secure Settings is needed since Tasker cannot turn on the screen in Android 2.3+.
To Lock:
Create a new Profile, State, Sensor, Magnetic Field. Press Scan and have a look at the value when the cover is nearly closed (you can peek under the cover). A value of 285+ works fine for me so far. So set From '285' and To 'Any'.
For the Exit Task, Display, System Lock.
To Unlock:
Same as before, just use the lower range: From '0' To '284' for me. (or you can use Invert)
For the Exit Task, Plugin, Secure Settings. Hit the pencil for Configuration and choose Wake Device. I then used Screen Dim and 5 seconds, but these are up to you. Press Save and you are done!
EDIT: I added a variable check to keep it from running constantly. I think it still needs a little work, things are a bit wonky, but get you get the idea. When it locks, set %CASE to CLOSED. In order to unlock, it must then read %CASE as CLOSED, before setting it to OPEN.
Profile: Case Unlock (4)
State: Magnetic Field [ Axis:All From:0 To:284 ]
State: Variable Value [ Name:%CASE Op:Matches Value:CLOSED ]
Enter: Anon (5)
A1: Secure Settings [ Configuration:Screen Dim
5 Seconds Package:com.intangibleobject.securesettings.plugin Name:Secure Settings Timeout (Seconds):0 ]
A2: Variable Set [ Name:%CASE To: OPEN Do Maths: Off Append: Off ]
Profile: Case Lock (2)
State: Magnetic Field [ Axis:All From:285 To:Any ]
State: Variable Value [ Name:%CASE Op:Matches Value: OPEN ]
Enter: Anon (3)
A1: System Lock
A2: Variable Set [ Name:%CASE To:CLOSED Do Maths: Off Append: Off ]
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You also might want to disable Run In Foreground from Settings - Monitor - General if you don't want to see a notification all the time.
Happy Smart Covering! :highfive:
Very cool find, one issue I am having though (I have the IVSO case) is that I have a stronger magnet field when the case is open (and the cover is flipped all the way around to the backside of the device) than when the case is closed lol. This is annoying because I would rather it to lock the screen and then use light or knock knock to turn the screen back on lol. If you have any ideas please share!
Edit: Didn't see the post about tasker. I'm going to try that now since I already use tasker for a lot of things!
colwellkr said:
Very cool find, one issue I am having though (I have the IVSO case) is that I have a stronger magnet field when the case is open (and the cover is flipped all the way around to the backside of the device) than when the case is closed lol. This is annoying because I would rather it to lock the screen and then use light or knock knock to turn the screen back on lol. If you have any ideas please share!
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Really?? I have the IVSO case as well, and mine is much lower flipped around (~160 vs 330). That's weird. Does the smart cover work on stock?
You could try the method I describe with Tasker (no need for Secure Settings if not turning screen on) and set a small To and From window that just corresponds to your lid being shut. Maybe you need a delay to check twice to ensure it isn't accidentally triggered by the cover flapping while open.
To what degree do these fixes affect battery life?
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To what degree do these fixes affect battery life?
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While I have no idea (just made the script), I would hope not any more than other implementations like the stock LG method? :fingers-crossed:
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Really?? I have the IVSO case as well, and mine is much lower flipped around (~160 vs 330). That's weird. Does the smart cover work on stock?
You could try the method I describe with Tasker (no need for Secure Settings if not turning screen on) and set a small To and From window that just corresponds to your lid being shut. Maybe you need a delay to check twice to ensure it isn't accidentally triggered by the cover flapping while open.
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Yeah it was weird in magnet unlocker I had higher values for open than closed. But I got it working perfectly in tasker, so thank a million! And I have no idea if my cover works on stock because I bought the cover after I put cm11 on it.
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These should not impact your battery life too much since the sensors are almost always on anyway as far as I can tell.
It seems that the values of the sensor vary greatly depending on the area; this means that in some places it works perfectly, but in others it won't respond at all. Could there be any way to input relative values of the magnetic sensor in Tasker as opposed to absolute values or some other way to mend this?
colwellkr said:
Very cool find, one issue I am having though (I have the IVSO case) is that I have a stronger magnet field when the case is open (and the cover is flipped all the way around to the backside of the device) than when the case is closed lol. This is annoying because I would rather it to lock the screen and then use light or knock knock to turn the screen back on lol. If you have any ideas please share!
Edit: Didn't see the post about tasker. I'm going to try that now since I already use tasker for a lot of things!
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This was exactly why I only used one of the settings. The sensor is highly unstable and in certain occasions it decides to "double" the magnetic field. Sometimes I'm at like 400 when the lid is open and 800 when closed, should be only 4-500 when closed. It is based highly on situation. I'm sticking with the screen on function only. But thanks for the Tasker config as well. At least there's something now.
CuraeL said:
This was exactly why I only used one of the settings. The sensor is highly unstable and in certain occasions it decides to "double" the magnetic field. Sometimes I'm at like 400 when the lid is open and 800 when closed, should be only 4-500 when closed. It is based highly on situation. I'm sticking with the screen on function only. But thanks for the Tasker config as well. At least there's something now.
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Yeah I see what you mean. That is happening to me now. Case will be wide open but it will trigger the screen off function. Back to just one function indeed...
ViperPyro said:
Yeah I see what you mean. That is happening to me now. Case will be wide open but it will trigger the screen off function. Back to just one function indeed...
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Do you leave the cover open just hanging off the side or do you flip it all the way around behind? Since the magnet and sensor are on the side where the fold is I have found I have to flip it all the way around behind the tablet to keep the screen off from being triggered. But this is how I like holding the tablet anyway.
Magnet Unlocker and Tasker don't work for me. Magnet unlocker reads my magnetic field as 900 with the cover open and 18 when closed, so when I close the cover the device unlocks. Tasker works sometimes, but after some time the magnetic field goes above 1000 so tasker is useless.
I tried this on Madhi-Rom and it didn't work for me either. The magnetic sensor isn't working correctly and didn't give values that made any sense. I went back to stock and checked with the app and the sensor reports correctly.
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It works for me when I calibrate the magnetometer Sometimes the magnetometer does not work properly but after this method it works again. I can now lock and unlock the screen with my smart cover using tasker.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778131
Linus_BE said:
It works for me when I calibrate the magnetometer Sometimes the magnetometer does not work properly but after this method it works again. I can now lock and unlock the screen with my smart cover using tasker.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778131
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Unfortunately didn't work for me.
In the Google Play Edition, this feature works with no additional apks or need to tweak.
sleekmason said:
In the Google Play Edition, this feature works with no additional apks or need to tweak.
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Can you link me to this evidence please
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Can you link me to this evidence please
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maybe I am not aware of what you are really talking about. Are you talking about using a cover with a magnet to turn on and off your tablet? When you lift the lid it comes on when you shut the lid it goes into standby mode? Maybe I misunderstood what really taking place here. But if that is the case then yes I am using a ivso cover that hibernate my tablet just fine.
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maybe I am not aware of what you are really talking about. Are you talking about using a cover with a magnet to turn on and off your tablet? When you lift the lid it comes on when you shut the lid it goes into standby mode? Maybe I misunderstood what really taking place here. But if that is the case then yes I am using a ivso cover that hibernate my tablet just fine.
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We are talking about making that feature work for the V500 running an AOSP ROM. It doesn't work by default so we are trying to figure out a way to make it work.
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sleekmason said:
maybe I am not aware of what you are really talking about. Are you talking about using a cover with a magnet to turn on and off your tablet? When you lift the lid it comes on when you shut the lid it goes into standby mode? Maybe I misunderstood what really taking place here. But if that is the case then yes I am using a ivso cover that hibernate my tablet just fine.
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So you have the v510?
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As the title states, here are the mods I made to get NFC working with my Qi Reciever on my S View case. Basically I turned this
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In an attempt to reduce the size of the bulge on my S View case to a minimum. I was able to retain the wireless charging and S View functions.
People have already been using this setup, with or without removing the excess material from the qi receiver with success; those who have know that this setup also renders NFC useless.
This was OK with me at the time but then I learned about RootCloak, the Xposed Module that allows you to hide SU from target applications, allowing rooted users of the Verizon Note 3 to use Isis NFC tap and pay functions. I was determined to get NFC, Wireless Charging and S View all working, and decided to take a chance and make a few more reductions to the Qi receiver to try to get this to work. What I ended up with is this
Using a razor blade I cut away all the plastic that was not integral in the circuitry or the coil for the qi receiver. I tried to take a picture to show that.
Anyway the end result is as I stated before, S View, Wireless Charging and NFC.
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I tried to take the screen shots in direct succession so that people would be satisfied that I'm not full of BS. However I had to restore a backup of my old school screen shot app (since I haven't had to use it since my Note 2) in order to get the S View screenshot. Of course the TiBu restored app didn't work since it was a version for ICS from my HTC Rezound days, so I had to update the app from the Playstore... accounting for the changes in time 12:22, 12:23, 12:29. I assure you that I have not tried to pull any BS, and I do have all three of these functions working.
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I tried to take the screen shots in direct succession so that people would be satisfied that I'm not full of BS. However I had to restore a backup of my old school screen shot app (since I haven't had to use it since my Note 2) in order to get the S View screenshot. Of course the TiBu restored app didn't work since it was a version for ICS from my HTC Rezound days, so I had to update the app from the Playstore... accounting for the changes in time 12:22, 12:23, 12:29. I assure you that I have not tried to pull any BS, and I do have all three of these functions working.
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That's pretty awesome, and modding one of those mudder receivers would only cost 10 bucks if you mess it up.
I worry about the receiver being bare like that though. You don't think it will cause any damage due to the heat being directly on the battery/door instead of through the coating originally put on it?
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That's pretty awesome, and modding one of those mudder receivers would only cost 10 bucks if you mess it up.
I worry about the receiver being bare like that though. You don't think it will cause any damage due to the heat being directly on the battery/door instead of through the coating originally put on it?
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Honestly, yes that is a concern. Mudder manufacturers the Qi receiver with a substantial amount of thermal padding on the coil. The exposed coil, to my surprise, was actually also enveloped inside of a plastic film, as pictured. I have ripped apart other Qi receivers, copper wire receivers, to reduce the bulge through the back cover, leaving them exposed and they also produced a fair amount of heat while charging/immediately after being removed from the charging base.
In this useage, since I made these changes to the Mudder receiver, I can say that this setup doesn't get nearly as warm to the touch after being on my Qi pad overnight while charging as the exposed copper wire receivers I have also made changes to does (which is kind of an obvious statement as exposed copper wire will clearly get hotter than this Murder coil which is enveloped in the plastic film).
Personally, I was comfortable with the amount of heat that my original copper wire qi receiver gave off after I made the changes to it, as it was (believe it or not) not much warmer than the use of the receiver before I modified it. Having experienced that setup, I am definitely more confident in the Mudder receiver being used with these changes I made.
Notably, I was using the exposed copper wire reciever for about a month before I found out about the Mudder version, without any problems, and my current setup really doesn't get any warmer to the touch than using the wall plug.
Of course I am running a risk of having an issue since I have modified these products from their original design and intended use, but I am within my comfort-zone based on my experiences. As long as nothing explodes and burns my house down!
Btw, that coating in the Mudder receiver is easily double the thickness of the of the actual receiver.
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Wow, the camera on the OG Note 10.1 SUCKS! smh
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Wow, the camera on the OG Note 10.1 SUCKS! smh
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I just cut up some of mine and left that thermal padding on and I got nfc working much better now (not 100% though).
If I get it in the right spot it does work all the time, but there's little margin for error. I'll probably keep chopping away and testing to see if I can keep the thermal stuff on it.
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I just cut up some of mine and left that thermal padding on and I got nfc working much better now (not 100% though).
If I get it in the right spot it does work all the time, but there's little margin for error. I'll probably keep chopping away and testing to see if I can keep the thermal stuff on it.
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Its nice to get NFC working since there is a work around for ISIS now, I doubt I would have tried this if not for RootCloak.
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Its nice to get NFC working since there is a work around for ISIS now, I doubt I would have tried this if not for RootCloak.
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ISIS works flawlessly, even with my half cut up version.
I was *told* the NFC for ISIS sits on the sim card. But I dunno if I believe it.
Either way, while I still have some small issues with NFC in general, ISIS works perfectly.
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ISIS works flawlessly, even with my half cut up version.
I was *told* the NFC for ISIS sits on the sim card. But I dunno if I believe it.
Either way, while I still have some small issues with NFC in general, ISIS works perfectly.
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Actually if you look at the battery, assuming it is an original Samsung part, the NFC antenna is on the battery itself. I don't think that you can fit a proper NFC antenna onto a SIM card. This was mentioned in the forum thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471791
Cutting away the excess from the receiver exposes more of the antenna on the battery so that it can receive the signal from the NFC tag.
Hi guys, plz advise.
I am using a similar ravpower wireless reciever with the official s view case and have cut out the edges a lil bit for fitting purposes. But I am bit disaapointed with wireless charging. Firstly its really slow compared to usb 3 charging. 30mts 10% increase. Secondly, the heat generated seems not normal. The sview functions work very well and the wireless receiver detection is spot on.
I am wondering whether its the receiver issue or is it just this much that we can expect from this wireless charge technology.
Would it be anything better in case of the official s view wireless charge case or the official wireless back cover? Thnx
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Firstly its really slow compared to usb 3 charging. 30mts 10% increase. Secondly, the heat generated seems not normal. .
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Wireless will max out at around 640ma while the charging cable to AC will be around 1800ma. Wireless will always be slower.
Wireless will also generate heat that a wired charger won't.
So what you are seeing is normal.
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Wireless will max out at around 640ma while the charging cable to AC will be around 1800ma. Wireless will always be slower.
Wireless will also generate heat that a wired charger won't.
So what you are seeing is normal.
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The 640ma, is it with every wireless charger? I mean if the official case is used, would thr be ny improvement in terms of speed and heat? Thnx
Hi, thanks a lot for the trick.
I got the same in France from Aukey brand.
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00JSOP9SM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The only thing to make it work with the s-view case without any lump on the rear is to get the small ground pin out (in addition, I also cut the P3 one out, useless):
Everything's ok: Wireless charging, NFC, s-view detection.
Please don't try this there is a risk of damaging your receiver and the case as I did. I was having good time with my OEM S-view flip case and decent wireless charging on my Tylt VU using a Qi receiver until I tried this to regain NFC on my Note3.
I did cut the receiver sparingly leaving more edge for coils but it looks very much the same as it was posted in OP. It worked normally for a day and then suddenly stopped working. Strangely now my S-view also doesn't work. Did all what I can do cleaning the contacts, pins, restarted several times but with no luck.
Cutting P3 and removing GND pin helps?
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Hi, thanks a lot for the trick.
I got the same in France from Aukey brand.
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00JSOP9SM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The only thing to make it work with the s-view case without any lump on the rear is to get the small ground pin out (in addition, I also cut the P3 one out, useless):
Everything's ok: Wireless charging, NFC, s-view detection.
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This how you have a player having to charge up his gear s? Thats messed up
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In the same boat
Same here. I love this watch but this is ridiculous. And how about some updates!
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That's what I'm waiting for.the update. I can't believe they haven't sent it out yet.
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I've been using a shot novelty shot glass. also missing about 2 updates everyone else seems to be getting in other countries.
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I've been using a shot novelty shot glass. also missing about 2 updates everyone else seems to be getting in other countries.
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I have onle had my watch for a few days, but is this because it doesn't clip on or because it is annoying to clip on? I figured the waist way is to line it up on the one end then push it into place, it fits nice and snug at that point.
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I have onle had my watch for a few days, but is this because it doesn't clip on or because it is annoying to clip on? I figured the waist way is to line it up on the one end then push it into place, it fits nice and snug at that point.
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I never forced mine on. I was always gentle. The clip broke with ease
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this is how i charge. the pic is sideways, not sure why.
the charging clips seem like they were just meant to break. mines broke after a few months.
I'm confused. What problem does socks and bottles solve? Do people using them have broken tabs on their charger or "slots" on their Gear and use the socks and bottles to apply pressure so the pins connect? I know I could end up like others with a broken charger but I have two (work/home) and so far they attach and come off fine. With all the issues reported I look at the clips on both chargers regularly and nothing's changed. Once a non-defective charger's attached I can't see where applying pressure to it would do much to preserve the tabs. If there's something causing them to fail I'm guessing it's stress from repeated attachment and detachment. Granted it's a dumb design for a $300+ device but I'd like to think enough thought went it regarding longevity so if people are affected it's a minority. Time will tell.
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I'm confused. What problem does socks and bottles solve? Do people using them have broken tabs on their charger or "slots" on their Gear and use the socks and bottles to apply pressure so the pins connect? I know I could end up like others with a broken charger but I have two (work/home) and so far they attach and come off fine. With all the issues reported I look at the clips on both chargers regularly and nothing's changed. Once a non-defective charger's attached I can't see where applying pressure to it would do much to preserve the tabs. If there's something causing them to fail I'm guessing it's stress from repeated attachment and detachment. Granted it's a dumb design for a $300+ device but I'd like to think enough thought went it regarding longevity so if people are affected it's a minority. Time will tell.
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yeah adds pressure to broken chargers. eventually the tabs will break. i was always careful with mine, but in months it broke anyways.
I babied mine after reading about the broken tabs also but mine broke after 3 months also. I'm so ticked that Samsung won't own up to this big blunder. It should've been wireless charging to begin with because I've read of peoples charging contacts on the watch corroding and not working any more
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I babied mine after reading about the broken tabs also but mine broke after 3 months also. I'm so ticked that Samsung won't own up to this big blunder. It should've been wireless charging to begin with because I've read of peoples charging contacts on the watch corroding and not working any more
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My biggest concern isn't having to replace a $30 charger (even though I/we shouldn't). It's the pics some people posted of the receiving slots on the $300 Gear S breaking. That's a problem. You spin the wheel and take your chances.
I somehow got status in Samsung's support program and I called about this. I was told if anything happened to my Gear S or charger I'd get an advance replacement. Some relief but I'd rather not have to test it.
Hello All! I read up a lot about the Gear S before making my purchase so was well aware of the tab on the charger breaking. First time using it was difficult to get off; now I just slide it a smidgen to the right & it comes off without me pulling & tugging at it.
So now I have it down to a science.
Snap on; slide off. I hope doing it this way continues to work months from now but only time will tell.
Is this trick somewhere in the manual?
Slide right, gentle pull on the tab... how simple. Much less pressure to detach; easier on the clip. Why isn't Sammy advertising this more? I've ordered two backup chargers on ebay: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281588490165?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT -fearing the inevitable breakage..
Update: Speak of the Devil; Postman just dropped off chargers as I was posting. Both allow usb connection and charge ok. No LED like the OEM and I'll have to get back to you on standalone spare -charge after I've tested. But at $8.99 US (free Shipping - Apr 27) I have backup for my worn clip.
So I bought two.
Now let's hope the Watch clip stays viable
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Slide right, gentle pull on the tab... how simple. Much less pressure to detach; easier on the clip. Why isn't Sammy advertising this more? I've ordered two backup chargers on ebay: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281588490165?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT -fearing the inevitable breakage..
Update: Speak of the Devil; Postman just dropped off chargers as I was posting. Both allow usb connection and charge ok. No LED like the OEM and I'll have to get back to you on standalone spare -charge after I've tested. But at $8.99 US (free Shipping - Apr 27) I have backup for my worn clip.
So I bought two.
Now let's hope the Watch clip stays viable
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Lol this is crazy. Im waiting on my replacement charger right now. I ordered three.I figure that the average person will go through three or four within the year.Ill update the thread on the number of replacements used by years end.
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F.Y.I.
Update 2.0: the Cheapies appear to be CHARGER/ADAPTERs only! No LED and no mobile -charge. On the plus side; they work great to leave on the night desk, come with their own usb and seem to charge the watch via generic usb-mobile-battery pack as a work-around...
BTW Did you know that thumb-pressure on the corner of the charger opposite the tab (Speaker corner) will pop it off with almost no effort? Where is that posted? Works on the OEM version, too
Well after the ebay chargers have now stopped staying on the watch, I filed a claim with squaretrade and sent my watch back to them for a refund. I really did love the watch but I cannot justify paying that much money and then having to shove a sock inside the watch opening to charge it every night, and the fact that Samsung could care less about the issue makes me even more upset about this whole thing. I will miss being able to see who calls without picking up my phone but if Samsung does not care any more than this why the heck should we.
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I filed a claim with squaretrade and sent my watch back to them for a refund.
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ST is insurance. When you send your watch/charger back they'll repair it. If the repair cost is higher than the insured value they'll consider it "beyond economic repair" and pay you whatever the max value of the policy you bought is or what's on the receipt you provided them. "I don't like the charger design" isn't grounds for a refund.
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Update 2.0: the Cheapies appear to be CHARGER/ADAPTERs only! No LED and no mobile -charge. On the plus side; they work great to leave on the night desk, come with their own usb and seem to charge the watch via generic usb-mobile-battery pack as a work-around...
BTW Did you know that thumb-pressure on the corner of the charger opposite the tab (Speaker corner) will pop it off with almost no effort? Where is that posted? Works on the OEM version, too
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I never tried that cause I thought it would definitely break. Ill try it when it's time to charge again.
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I bought the Tab S4 yesterday August 10th at Best Buy in Chicago (or its suburb to be more precise) and bought the Keyboard Cover since they have a deal on it for $80 with the 64GB tablet purchase.
Review:
Having just recently purchased the Tab S3 (I have a tech obsession problem) with its companion keyboard cover, I can compare them. For whatever reason, the Tab S3 keyboard cover is better all around, from attachment method to way you use it. This one is just terrible on every front.
Pros:
-Activates Dex mode
-The keys are responsive.
Cons:
-The way the tablet fits into this cover via snapping into a holder. I liked the magnetic setup of the Tab S3's type cover
-While it is clearly a slightly larger cover than the Tab S3, it feels 50% to 100% heavier. When the tablet itself is only about 10% heavier than the Tab S3's Tablet.
-The wrist rest terminates into a hard rounded ridge, so it feels like you're typing in a well. Where on the Tab S3 there is about an inch of rest there.
-Given the black color, and wider border on the sides of the keyboard, it makes it feel more cramped than the Tab S3 though they're the exact same size.
-Just like with the Tab S3, I wished there were secondary functions and a FN key, instead we get a lang and keyboard key.
-Because this doesn't have a home button and there isn't a shortcut I found to act as a home key, you have to swipe up on the screen to hit home (if you hide your navigation keys). Not the best.
-The texture on the case itself feels gross, cheap, and rubbery. So YAY, it won't slide around, but the soft touch feel of the Tab S3 cover feels better and more premium.
-There's a cutout for the camera, the Tab S3 covers its up. Living in a dusty environment, it just means its a nice new well for dust to get trapped in.
Conclusion:
They could have done better. I'd get rid of the ridge in the front since it hits the fat of your hand at a sharp and awkward angle, and I bet that would make this infinitely better.
appreciate the review.
in addition to all your points, i wish it also had more than a single angle.
Is it a good every day case? I have a Tab S2 (8") and the official case (the one that snaps into the holes on the back of the tablet).
Most if the time I'll be using the tablet out of Dex mode. When folded behind the tablet does the keyboard get in the way? Should I buy another non keyboard case for every day use?
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Is it a good every day case? I have a Tab S2 (8") and the official case (the one that snaps into the holes on the back of the tablet).
Most if the time I'll be using the tablet out of Dex mode. When folded behind the tablet does the keyboard get in the way? Should I buy another non keyboard case for every day use?
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Yeah, you do have a good point, but there are lighter options out there. Being able to literally compare both the Tab S4's keyboard case and the Tab S3's side to side is what made me annoyed with this years take on the keyboard case, especially since they really hit it out of the park with last year's.
I wish the keyboard case had an easy way to open and just lay flat. It appears it will lay flat but have the keyboard exposed on the bottom, or you can rotate slightly to lay flat with the keyboard protected under the tablet but several rows of keys are still exposed. I liked the way the S3 cover had several angles including one that had the device lay flat for reading.
Glad I'm Getting mine free through Samsung. Doesn't sound worth the price
The keyboard cover sucks IMO. I ordered an $8 magnet case and will be using my faithful old Logitech K480 for my typing needs.
without a touchpad this is a non starter for me.
I wrote a critical review on the Samsung store website. I wonder if it will make it past moderation.
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I wrote a critical review on the Samsung store website. I wonder if it will make it past moderation.
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The pen snaps into the holder if you put it in tip first, if it doesn't click it will fall out, but it extremely safe when snapped in. Dont have keyboard version, but same holder on book cover(nice case btw)
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The pen snaps into the holder if you put it in tip first, if it doesn't click it will fall out, but it extremely safe when snapped in. Dont have keyboard version, but same holder on book cover(nice case btw)
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That's weird. My pen clicks in on the keyboard cover. Yes, it requires some pressure but then it just makes a nice audible "click" and I doubt it will just fall out by itself.
Yes exactly. That's what I'm saying
Thanks for the review OP. I was thinking of getting the samsung keyboard cover. but after spending a $1000 for my tab s4 256 lte Korean version. I checked my old gadgets box and I found my foldable bluetooth keyboard+trackpad. It worked just fine! easy to carry. works with Dex too!
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Yeah, you do have a good point, but there are lighter options out there. Being able to literally compare both the Tab S4's keyboard case and the Tab S3's side to side is what made me annoyed with this years take on the keyboard case, especially since they really hit it out of the park with last year's.
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I hope I like the Tab S4's keyboard cover when it arrives more than you do.
I have a Tab S3 with keyboard cover and, although its keyboard has great action, it also has many shortcomings: no camera cut-out in the moulding, no proper place for the pen, no closed cover detection by the tablet, and so on.
Samsung has yet to "hit it out of the park" with these covers. Even if they had designed it perfectly, the accompanying price tag is absurd. The only way the keyboard cover made sense on the Tab S3 and now again on the Tab S4 is as a freebie with a pre-ordered tablet, which is how I've done it both times. As much as I like the keyboard in use, I certainly wouldn't dream of paying €150 for it.
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-Because this doesn't have a home button and there isn't a shortcut I found to act as a home key, you have to swipe up on the screen to hit home (if you hide your navigation keys). Not the best.
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Just a quick note here - there is a shortcut for home. It's listed as Meta + Enter in the settings. It took me quite a while to figure out that Meta is the search key right next to Ctrl on keyboard cover, but it works like a charm. There's couple other shortcuts (for back, for displaying notifications), and there's a shortcut for displaying shortcuts, Meta + / (otherwise, the list is buried deep in the settings under physical keyboard). Note that this is context sensitive - the shortcut list is a bit different in Dex mode and it also shows applications shortcuts in certain applications like Chrome.
The only thing I am missing is the ability to change the shortcuts mappings/create my own.
Have the free keyboards started to arrive in the UK?
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Have the free keyboards started to arrive in the UK?
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Still waiting for mine but it has now moved up to processed
Sold mine, pretty useless for a $150 cover esp. since it doesn't wake the tablet or have a touchpad for true dex mode. Got a K480 and bluetooth mouse combo for $20 that works way better for DeX.
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Just a quick note here - there is a shortcut for home. It's listed as Meta + Enter in the settings. It took me quite a while to figure out that Meta is the search key right next to Ctrl on keyboard cover, but it works like a charm. There's couple other shortcuts (for back, for displaying notifications), and there's a shortcut for displaying shortcuts, Meta + / (otherwise, the list is buried deep in the settings under physical keyboard). Note that this is context sensitive - the shortcut list is a bit different in Dex mode and it also shows applications shortcuts in certain applications like Chrome.
The only thing I am missing is the ability to change the shortcuts mappings/create my own.
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I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how to use the keyboard (not in Dex mode). For example, If I try to type a question mark, it should be Shift+6 I would think, but I get a ^ like a regular keyboard. I've tried every combination of shift, control, search key (Meta), alt, Alt Gr etc with 6 but there is no way I can produce a ?. Some of the other keys work with the shift key but some do not.
I haven't been able to find any explanations or instructions other than the small pop-up screen in the keyboard settings. I'd appreciate any pointers as to where I can find the instructions.
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I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how to use the keyboard (not in Dex mode). For example, If I try to type a question mark, it should be Shift+6 I would think, but I get a ^ like a regular keyboard. I've tried every combination of shift, control, search key (Meta), alt, Alt Gr etc with 6 but there is no way I can produce a ?. Some of the other keys work with the shift key but some do not.
I haven't been able to find any explanations or instructions other than the small pop-up screen in the keyboard settings. I'd appreciate any pointers as to where I can find the instructions.
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Why would Shift+6 be question mark? It's '^' on mine. Did you somehow managed get French version of the keyboard or something? Mine has standard US layout as seen in the attachment here:
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And yes, using different keyboard layout is kind of tricky - you first have to have it add it for on-screen keyboard (General Management -> On-screen keyboard -> Samunsung Keyboard -> Manage Input Languages) and then you can configure it for keyboard cover (General Management -> Physical Keyboard -> (choose your language) -> (choose layout) . Plus it's very limited, I'd like to use different layout for my 2nd language keyboard but can't do that.