So what do you guys think will be the next update we will get you think Samsung/Tmobile will bother updating us to the 4.4.4 ??? Or just wait it out and go str8 to Android L ?? Will be interesting to see how Android L Looks once touchwiz is on top
I was wondering the same thing I'm betting we may not get Android L.... It probably makes more sense for Samsung to come out with a Galaxy s6 with Android L....
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I was wondering the same thing I'm betting we may not get Android L.... It probably makes more sense for Samsung to come out with a Galaxy s6 with Android L....
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But then again Samsung may want to compete with Apples iPhone6 . Let's try to keep hopes up :thumbup:
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I'm guessing they'll update us to 4.4.4, then leave it till the S6 comes out. Probably a month after the S6 comes out we'll get L.
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I'm guessing they'll update us to 4.4.4, then leave it till the S6 comes out. Probably a month after the S6 comes out we'll get L.
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Same thing I was thinking I don't think the galaxy 5 will ever see Android L or at least for a really long time right before the galaxy 6 comes out.....
I'm guessing that Galaxy F/S5Prime will more than likely get the priority of the updates before the s6 lol
Well there's the 18 month upgrade rule, supposely these carriers follow. So we'll see L, just most likely in the summer or fall 2015 unfortunately.
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You guys are buggin! I got KitKat on my S4 (Sprint) around January/February. So I'd be willing to bet anything that w get L Q1 of 2015.
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You guys are buggin! I got KitKat on my S4 (Sprint) around January/February. So I'd be willing to bet anything that w get L Q1 of 2015.
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Lol they are buggin, sg5 is a brand new phone, of course it will get andriod L update.
I'm disappointed we don't even have 4.4 yet, I don't understand how this works. Samsung devs finalize it, and send it off to carriers? And then carriers mess with it? This takes months and months?
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I'm disappointed we don't even have 4.4 yet, I don't understand how this works. Samsung devs finalize it, and send it off to carriers? And then carriers mess with it? This takes months and months?
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Android is a highly fragmented OS, which is pretty annoying, luckily we can root and install our own 4.4 roms! haha
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Android is a highly fragmented OS, which is pretty annoying, luckily we can root and install our own 4.4 roms! haha
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We can, but none of them actually work.
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We can, but none of them actually work.
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Yea any 4.4.4 rom have a bunch of important stuff broken so we do have to wait till Samsung pushes their TouchWiz update for us to be able to use 4.4.4
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Yea any 4.4.4 rom have a bunch of important stuff broken so we do have to wait till Samsung pushes their TouchWiz update for us to be able to use 4.4.4
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No, that won't help either. Even the 4.4.2 ROMs are broken. The devs are trying hard to get the drivers working, but I don't know enough about that stuff to see what exactly is holding them back.
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Android is a highly fragmented OS, which is pretty annoying, luckily we can root and install our own 4.4 roms! haha
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fragmentation is the wrong word, fragmentation implies that android as an entire OS is missing major features and apps are incompatible which is simply not the case, you're thinking of segmentation which is what android is now(back in the 2.2/2.3.3 days you would be right though). With 4.0 android being released, it really blurred the lines between different Android versions and made things very modular as opposed to lets say iOS which is very monolithic, you can not get the latest safari on an older version of iOS, you can however have the latest google now, maps, ect. on a device with 4.0 without rooting and have full functionality for the most part(just missing minor things like "ok google") and unlike iOS, aps built on newer versions of android work on older versions of android unlike iOS where newer apps are incompatible with older versions of iOS
I think an update is required. I have a glitch with the back cover. The current modem is pretty awful. It even makes my phone start up longer. The device even added that T-Mobile 4G LTE screen logo too. I remember it took no time to boot up the S5. Now, it takes mine roughly 30 seconds.
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I think an update is required. I have a glitch with the back cover. The current modem is pretty awful. It even makes my phone start up longer. The device even added that T-Mobile 4G LTE screen logo too. I remember it took no time to boot up the S5. Now, it takes mine roughly 30 seconds.
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Mine takes about fifteen.
Edit: timed it. You're right. 27 seconds.
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next update I'm sure it will be 4.4.4
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Anyone get the update text just now
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Anyone get the update text just now
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I did on the 9th
No I just got another message a few minutes ago
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No I just got another message a few minutes ago
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So you received 2 separate text messages on 2 totally different dates? Did they both say the same thing?
AT&T Free Msg: The Samsung Galaxy Note upgrade to Android 4.1 Jelly Bean is now available! This OS update supports enhanced performance and user interface plus other device improvements. To download, open this link from your PC (not your phone) and follow the prompts: samsung.com/us/attgalaxynote/update
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So you received 2 separate text messages on 2 totally different dates? Did they both say the same thing?
AT&T Free Msg: The Samsung Galaxy Note upgrade to Android 4.1 Jelly Bean is now available! This OS update supports enhanced performance and user interface plus other device improvements. To download, open this link from your PC (not your phone) and follow the prompts: samsung.com/us/attgalaxynote/update
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Yea that's what it said. From what Samsung told me it was error on the carrier side. But did give a hint that multi view is on the way. Guess the petition did some good
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Yea that's what it said. From what Samsung told me it was error on the carrier side. But did give a hint that multi view is on the way. Guess the petition did some good
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Um, no, it just means AT&T sent the message twice..
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Um, no, it just means AT&T sent the message twice..
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Not gonna argue that. Just saying that Samsung said multi view update is not available yet. Do I believe them NO. But that's what's they said
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Not gonna argue that. Just saying that Samsung said multi view update is not available yet. Do I believe them NO. But that's what's they said
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If we see it, I think it'll be a positive sign that the carriers listen to the voices of users wanting (demanding) updates and similar featuresets to other models of the same handset (not stripped down) but I'd be really surprised if we ever see another official update out of AT&T for the Note.
We're under contract for two years, IMO we should get good support and reasonable updates for those two years.
I still think if carriers didn't screw with the updates so much, they could get them out faster and cheaper, but I doubt that'll happen
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If we see it, I think it'll be a positive sign that the carriers listen to the voices of users wanting (demanding) updates and similar featuresets to other models of the same handset (not stripped down) but I'd be really surprised if we ever see another official update out of AT&T for the Note.
We're under contract for two years, IMO we should get good support and reasonable updates for those two years.
I still think if carriers didn't screw with the updates so much, they could get them out faster and cheaper, but I doubt that'll happen
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I totally agree
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If we see it, I think it'll be a positive sign that the carriers listen to the voices of users wanting (demanding) updates and similar featuresets to other models of the same handset (not stripped down) but I'd be really surprised if we ever see another official update out of AT&T for the Note.
We're under contract for two years, IMO we should get good support and reasonable updates for those two years.
I still think if carriers didn't screw with the updates so much, they could get them out faster and cheaper, but I doubt that'll happen
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But what about all that content AT&T offers? How would we LIVE without it? /sarcasm
I totally agree, I wish Google enforced an osap release for every device with manufacturers so we'd have the option of vanilla or a manufacturer custom rom. Like that would ever happen lol
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But what about all that content AT&T offers? How would we LIVE without it? /sarcasm
I totally agree, I wish Google enforced an osap release for every device with manufacturers so we'd have the option of vanilla or a manufacturer custom rom. Like that would ever happen lol
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Well it just happen. Google galaxy s4
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Well it just happen. Google galaxy s4
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true but not exactly what I meant. What I mean is say Samung goes to release say the Note 3, they write an ASOP rom, and then another that has all of the touchwiz, multiple windows and other cool samsung apps. When the phone hits the carrier, it will inevitably be laced with AT&T bloatware, but we'd still have the original ASOP from sammy to choose from. Now I know in this model there's no way a company like Samsung could maintain 2 ROMs for every phone, but I think many of us would prefer to go without touchwiz for a clean experience and true customizability that Android was meant to be.
Really though, if Google went to more of a modular design instead of encoding the hardware drivers within a kernel that would be the end all of that. Yes I do understand that kernal compilation with the drivers provides a speedier system, but heck our phones are packing a dual core and it's just linux and linux is quick by nature.
Just my thoughts.
Leak: Samsung's American Android 4.3 And Galaxy Gear Update Release Schedule For The Galaxy S4, S4 Active, S III, And Note II
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...or-the-galaxy-s4-s4-active-s-iii-and-note-ii/
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Interesting. I thought Verizon won't be rolling out 4.3 anytime soon considering they just rolled out VRUDMI1 update
Maybe Verizon is starting to realize they're assholes and trying to remedy the situtation?
Nah, it's Verizon, they'll always be assholes.
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Maybe Verizon is starting to realize they're assholes and trying to remedy the situtation?
Nah, it's Verizon, they'll always be assholes.
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the real question is when will the OTA come for 4.4...im hoping that when it gets announced with the Nexus 5, the Google Play Editions will get updated so we can get stock 4.4 custom ROM and that it will work with people who had to root using Safestrap
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Interesting. I thought Verizon won't be rolling out 4.3 anytime soon considering they just rolled out VRUDMI1 update
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According to the leak it's 10/28... who knows!
LOL!!!!
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Maybe Verizon is starting to realize they're assholes and trying to remedy the situtation?
Nah, it's Verizon, they'll always be assholes.
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I wonder if we really will get on the 28th.
Not getting my hopes up just yet
I Will Believe When It Is Downloading
I've been thru this so many times with so many phones thru Verizon. I now only believe when it is downloading.
It sounds so pessimistic but that what they have done to us.
So for me seeing is believing.
Sorry to be so pessimistic
Not going to happen. I'm a pessimist too and I am nearly willing to bet this will not happen on 10/28. I think we should bug the hell out of verizon though....pointing them to this leak to make sure it gets out ASAP.
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the real question is when will the OTA come for 4.4...im hoping that when it gets announced with the Nexus 5, the Google Play Editions will get updated so we can get stock 4.4 custom ROM and that it will work with people who had to root using Safestrap
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IIRC GPE later then 4.2.2 (or what ever the current one that works on safestrap) uses a different kernal then the regular touchwiz and will not work until kexec is developed.
Though hopefully 4.3 does come out soon, I get the feeling that having a new update to android that cannot be installed w/o a new kernal will help push kexec along...
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I think the 10/28 date is when Samsung is submitting the 4.3 update to Verizon to review and approve. It makes no sense that Verizon would update first out of all of the US carriers based on their past history.
Look at the rest of the S4 and S3 dates, most of them are slated for mid to late November, which seems more likely for a Verizon release. The other carriers don't really have a reviewal process like Verizon does to my knowledge, so they get the update and just push it to devices almost immediately. Therefore, Samsung built our version of 4.3 first and is submitting it earlier so that all of its devices get 4.3 around the same time.
Of course, I could be completely wrong and Verizon is releasing the 4.3 update on Monday. I won't complain if they do
I wonder how many of you will say lol woot when you download the update on 28th or 29th whatever the date is
I'm not getting a woody over this atm. It will likely be so locked down as mentioned that safestrap & roms will be out of the question for who knows how long. I'll stick to the customizations that I have now via ME7 & safestrap/Hyperdrive Rom.
Updates to me are useless until at least root can be obtained.
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Updates to me are useless until at least root can be obtained.
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I'm not updating until I can safely stay loki'd.
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I don't care about the root aspect as I haven't been able to really flash a ROM being on me7 and now the newest update, but if this holds true, I am excited. Otherwise I think it was a typo and they meant Oct 28 2014 for Verizon.
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I wonder how many of you will say lol woot when you download the update on 28th or 29th whatever the date is
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All I'm going to flash is the modem: Google has been going sideways since 4.1.2.
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All I'm going to flash is the modem: Google has been going sideways since 4.1.2.
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I dont have issues with google just came back from iphone 5 1 month ago
I was doing some reading and came across this interesting article. I hope our devs can UN dm-verify our stock kernel.
It may make rooting future devices much more difficult. I wonder what bug crawled up Google's butt.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-taking-aim-at-device-modders-in-android-4-4-kitkat/
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There always seems to be work around on every new version but this looks like bad news. Read the whole thing. Scary stuff for locked bootloaders.
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So do we get the pitchforks out and commence advance on LGs social media, etc? To get them to churn out an official build, of course.
It's a great phone and I bought it knowing they might not be quick on the draw. Didn't consider that 4.4 might make all these ROMs all for naught. Still, I needed a faster phone and this certainly fits the bill!
At same time I did know that short of a GSM Nexus that I couldn't have guarantee of latest Android.
I'm stuck on Verizon until March 2013. I can then slap a GSM Sim in, hopefully. But I paid retail so it's not like I want to buy a new phone anytime soon.
Well. I have myself to blame. Again. But I am off contract in March and this will never happen to me again!
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I am hopeful that when 4.4 comes out our devs will be able find a way for us to upgrade from 4.2 to a custom rooted 4.4 with out any issues. I do think that even stock unrooted this phone is fantastic it is carrier iq that is killing me. I'm sure att will put it in 4.4 also. Even though it was the carriers idea LG allows it to happen so I blame them also.
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Are all G2s bootloader locked? Including the international D802? Or only the carrier branded ones?
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Are all G2s bootloader locked? Including the international D802? Or only the carrier branded ones?
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LG to my knowledge locks the bootloader on all its devices regardless of carrier.
This is troubling. The reason I chose the G2 was because it was the closest thing to the Nexus 5 on Verizon and had good developer support. Hopefully our fantastic developers will figure out a solution.
From what I understand, unless we upgrade to the official 4.4 LG ROM, there is no chance of this happening. Is that correct ?
I guess I'm selling the g2 for the nexus 5
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This is rubbish man..
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From what I understand, unless we upgrade to the official 4.4 LG ROM, there is no chance of this happening. Is that correct ?
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That's my take on it. It is built into the 4.4 kernel. I wonder if this had anything to do with Google buying Motorola in August. Lock the phones way down for the carriers.
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If there will not be a 4.4 rom within 3 months guess it is a dirty shot for those who bought it and want to buy it like me
Looks like I'll be rolling with Nexus devices from now on. I guess it was bound to happen though, I'm sure OEM's wanted another security layer because of bootloader work a rounds. On the upside though, there will be less threads on device release days asking for root and ROM ETA's!
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the funny thing even though android are opensource, the phones and hardware are not. Thats where improvement is. If you create an abstraction layer, where due to propriatary stuff its closed and updateable by vendor. Another layer, the OS can go on top, thusly eliminating hardware dependancy as well as increasing updatability. OS and security issues can then more easily be adressed, without the now unduable vendor involvement needed in integrating the new OS with all the hardware specifics. Given the entropy rate of new phones coming out, its undoable. This last, as wel as commercial reasons is why updates and fixes for security holes dont come fast. As of yet.
Right now we see the true devs juggling various devices as the rate of entropy in new devices is higher then more true devs coming in. Devices not even picket up by community cause there are no devs for it. The breaking point has come.
A new design must be made for this momentum, a new standard
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The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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hhhmmmm not enjoying reading this thread
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The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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right. as long as you can flash custom kernels all this stuff should not be a problem.
it's about time to build some kitkat
KitKat has been out for like 5 days. Let's give the developers some time before everyone starts freaking out for no reason. They always find a way.
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The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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I think people who are already rooted will be ok , they will just need to avoid the official 4.4 until a custom rom is built. The bigger problem will be for new unrooted owners. I would imagine it being tricky to flash a custom kernel without the ability to root. I also agree in time the devs will figure something out.
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KitKat has been out for like 5 days. Let's give the developers some time before everyone starts freaking out for no reason. They always find a way.
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I think people who are already rooted will be ok , they will just need to avoid the official 4.4 until a custom rom is built. The bigger problem will be for new unrooted owners. I would imagine it being tricky to flash a custom kernel without the ability to root. I also agree in time the devs will figure something out.
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I just uninstalled recovery and was about to unroot and return to store, you guys gave me the slap in face I needed. Going to keep my badass phone now, thanks, drinks on me.
There's a leaked Samsung Android 4.4 schedule on the net and it points to January for the S4 and N3. Going by the title at the top of the screenshot/picture it's the international variant S4/N3. US will be even longer. I'm quite pissed about this as these are the flagship devices and should be upgraded MUCH sooner. Thoughts?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...xy-s-4-and-note-3-s-iii-and-note-ii-by-april/
Anybody complaining about non nexus devices not getting updates instantly have clearly not been paying attention the last 3 years. January is earlier than I would have predicted.
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Not sure how big of a deal KitKat really will be,...
I installed some of the newer files [Email, Calendar, QuickOffice] from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506623
To get some of the newer available apps, but moving to 4.4 washes away the hard work that Devs [Hashcode, beans, and Hyper] have already invested into 4.3.
I find Root and ROMs much more beneficial than the OS,....for now. De-bloating and customization is key!!
4.4 literally brings no new Ingenuity or function.
give me a break; give me a break; don't break me off a piece of that kit kat rom.
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4.4 literally brings no new Ingenuity or function.
give me a break; give me a break; don't break me off a piece of that kit kat rom.
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That's not entirely true, it does bring host card emulation to allow NFC devices without a secure element to use Google Wallet.
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We're men here. We always want the latest and greatest no matter what!
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Doesn't 4.4 officially have like emojis integrated through the entire system? I could have sworn that's what I could have sworn I read. If it's true, that's enough for me to want the update :thumbup:
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4.4 also allows you to record what your screen is doing natively. That is actually pretty awesome for helping give instructions on how to install etc.
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Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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We are trying to get Eclipse for our Note 3. He has aosp features added into the TW. There's a thread in general section if you are interested should check it out.
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We are trying to get Eclipse for our Note 3. He has aosp features added into the TW. There's a thread in general section if you are interested should check it out.
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Still isn't the same as having a bootloader bypass or unlock to truly run aosp.. heck we'd already be on kit kat if we had this that's where i will donate my funds to.
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Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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Just flashed CM11 4.4 on my N2
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Still isn't the same as having a bootloader bypass or unlock to truly run aosp.. heck we'd already be on kit kat if we had this that's where i will donate my funds to.
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Oh I agree it's not the same.
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Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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Never buy a locked device expecting aosp. Always assume a locked bootloader will remain that way.
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4.4 literally brings no new Ingenuity or function.
give me a break; give me a break; don't break me off a piece of that kit kat rom.
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Are you kidding? ART is potentially huge. I'd rather Samsung skip over 4.3 and go straight to 4.4 for this reason.
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Never buy a locked device expecting aosp. Always assume a locked bootloader will remain that way.
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I really had to think about it when I chose to get the Note 3, but I figure the features on this phone are pretty amazing, and the way its looking is that phones will mostly be locked in the future. ATT is locking theirs, Verizon is locking theirs, Im sure the rest will follow. If two out of the four major US carriers are doing this, there is a good chance that someone will find a way around it. For the time being, we have Hashcode who has found away around the lock for the most part. We just need to get something like Loki or KEXEC working.
My other option was to keep a phone that has outdated resolution, software and hardware..... I had the Note 2 for a year and was ready to move on.
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Are you kidding? ART is potentially huge. I'd rather Samsung skip over 4.3 and go straight to 4.4 for this reason.
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That's going to be hard to do since we're already on 4.3
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That's going to be hard to do since we're already on 4.3
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That part was for my Note 2. :cyclops:
We have no one to blame but ourselves. We accept the fact that the US carriers bend us over the barrel and do what they want to us. We accept it everyday by using their services, paying their crazy stupid prices and by accepting their restrictive contracts. Anyone who expects a US Wireless Carrier to offer an update let alone a Samsung update within a reasonable time frame is simply crazy.
The only reason the HTC One is getting it so fast is . . . well they don't have many phones to actually update or are worth updating so they have to keep pushing updates out to stay relevant. Of course the HTC one didn't get 4.2.2 we got stuck with 4.1.2 until we got 4.3. Of course I gave up on my HTC One long ago.
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4.4 also allows you to record what your screen is doing natively. That is actually pretty awesome for helping give instructions on how to install etc.
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Screen recording requires a PC attachment.
Like I said in the question, when do we think we get the update?
A. within a week
B. within two weeks
C. within a month
D. within 3 months
E. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
Probably as long as it takes verizon to put all there bloat in it and chains and shackles to make sure it stays locked down so we can't root it or anything
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Like I said in the question, when do we think we get the update?
A. within a week
B. within two weeks
C. within a month
D. within 3 months
E. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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VERIZON is holding on to the update cuz they think giving us kitkat will cannibalize sales of the S5
so i say give it a week to a month after the S5 is on sale as for me im thinking of getting rid of my S4 not like im on verizon's network any more might as well get an international model or an s5 -_- annoyed i love this phone
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VERIZON is holding on to the update cuz they think giving us kitkat will cannibalize sales of the S5
so i say give it a week to a month after the S5 is on sale as for me im thinking of getting rid of my S4 not like im on verizon's network any more might as well get an international model or an s5 -_- annoyed i love this phone
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You sure about that? I would say 90% of Verizon customers don't know what 4.4.2 Android means.
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joshm.1219 said:
You sure about that? I would say 90% of Verizon customers don't know what 4.4.2 Android means.
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thats what i read on the verizon forums alot of people want their kitkat updates lol its believable if you ask me
cuz every one else got their kitkat update
I think once Samsung/Verizon are done with it, Kitkat on the non-MDK S4 will look more like Gingerbread than real Kitkat anyways.
DjSkreem said:
VERIZON is holding on to the update cuz they think giving us kitkat will cannibalize sales of the S5
so i say give it a week to a month after the S5 is on sale as for me im thinking of getting rid of my S4 not like im on verizon's network any more might as well get an international model or an s5 -_- annoyed i love this phone
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joshm.1219 said:
You sure about that? I would say 90% of Verizon customers don't know what 4.4.2 Android means.
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DjSkreem said:
thats what i read on the verizon forums alot of people want their kitkat updates lol its believable if you ask me
cuz every one else got their kitkat update
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The people on all forums about the VZW S4 are a very small number of VZW users. Almost all people will not get a new phone until their current plan is up. Therefore the S5 coming out is irrelevant to when KitKat is released. The majority of people will update to KK when it's pushed and most have never heard of it, let alone care.
VZW taking longer also means Samsung has worked out some bugs in their initial releases. Bloatware doesn't have much to do with it, IMO, most apps are tweaked to work with new software fairly quick.
Sir_Eagle said:
The people on all forums about the VZW S4 are a very small number of VZW users. Almost all people will not get a new phone until their current plan is up. Therefore the S5 coming out is irrelevant to when KitKat is released. The majority of people will update to KK when it's pushed and most have never heard of it, let alone care.
VZW taking longer also means Samsung has worked out some bugs in their initial releases. Bloatware doesn't have much to do with it, IMO, most apps are tweaked to work with new software fairly quick.
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I agree.
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qudwis said:
Like I said in the question, when do we think we get the update?
A. within a week
B. within two weeks
C. within a month
D. within 3 months
E. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tomorrow.
Ask me again, tomorrow, and I'll tell you the same.
Its sad that this thread needs to exist. I am on the 4.4.2 GE ROM from Danvdh which is running great.
All I really want is the new modem file that goes with it.
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i guess your right but whats the hold back unless 4.3 and other had serious flaws or verizon is nit picking about buggs
what i wont mind waiting for is if they give us the GS5 touch whiz with out 4.4.2 rom lol make all other s4 owners sick lol
DjSkreem said:
i guess your right but whats the hold back unless 4.3 and other had serious flaws or verizon is nit picking about buggs
what i wont mind waiting for is if they give us the GS5 touch whiz with out 4.4.2 rom lol make all other s4 owners sick lol
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They should, Samsung should give the latest and greatest to the S4 and Note 3, they still are flagship phones.
fillyo said:
They should, Samsung should give the latest and greatest to the S4 and Note 3, they still are flagship phones.
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DjSkreem said:
i guess your right but whats the hold back unless 4.3 and other had serious flaws or verizon is nit picking about buggs
what i wont mind waiting for is if they give us the GS5 touch whiz with out 4.4.2 rom lol make all other s4 owners sick lol
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+1
We have Verizon.. So we have great service but have to deal with locked bootloaders and wait forever for OTA updates lol what can we do.. Maybe move over to TMobile?!
Probably what I'll end up doing eventually just to have an updated phone I actually want that can have a custom recovery.
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was in VZW yesterday (held a S5, kinda nice feeling) and asked as they tried to repair my S4. Dude seemed very tech savy until i pointed out VZW is last to get KK. he didnt even know when it'll b out.. Some "flagship" device right? makes me think they'll be pulling a dinc2 ICS move on us
This is getting annoying. 4.3 update fixed none of the issues or bugs really.... and then they make the flagship phone wait for kitkat.
zero26800 said:
This is getting annoying. 4.3 update fixed none of the issues or bugs really.... and then they make the flagship phone wait for kitkat.
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VZW has been known to only care about the brand new phones. I had a HTC Droid Incredible 2 and at the time the Inc series was their flagship, but the Dinc2 was still 3g. ICS was getting put on everything and they had their lists out showing what would and wouldn't and our Dinc2's were on the confirmed list just never received nothing . VZW passed blame to HTC and of course HTC passed it right back to VZW. Then about 6 months or so later or so VZW comes out and says our old flagship isnt gettin ICS at all, stated communication errors with just that phone. Wouldnt even release source for it. Now if it was the 4g model, which was the Incredible S, we would've had ICS and source. I dont trust VZW as far as updates and they'll probably state same excuse and offer us a discounted S5 or a free upgrade to switch our plan totally and for us to pay more in about 4 months. If KK drops just be amazed if we get passed 4.4.2. this phone probably wont see 4.4.3
swieder711 said:
Its sad that this thread needs to exist. I am on the 4.4.2 GE ROM from Danvdh which is running great.
All I really want is the new modem file that goes with it.
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I, for whatever reason, had very bad luck with data on GE. It forced me back to AOSP 4.3.
Some of us still want a vzw branded KK.
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