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First off here's what I am running:
GSBv1.5
Cache2Cache
Clocked using the overclocker in the cyanogenmod settings at
Max - 729
Min - 245
Gov - Smartass
I was just wondering, if I have a lot of stuff of my sd card, can this affect the speed of my Eris ? It's probably a stupid question but I was just wondering because I copied all the contents of my sd card onto my laptop then formatted my sd card and flashed Tazz Gingerbread v5 and it seemed pretty fast. Then I added my music back onto the card and my nandroid backup plus some other stuff and now regardless if I use Tazz's GB or Workshed's GB, they both seem really laggy and slow almost to the point where it seemed like the 2.2 roms were faster. Anyone got any input on this ? I mean I could understand maybe the bootup taking a little while because it's trying to read all the files and stuff but would it really make the overall functionality of the device a little slower ? Any tips on making my phone faster like getting rid of apps and stuff like that. I'm really confused because my device (other than the apps that come with the rom) only has 7 apps installed !!! Here are the apps I have installed other than what came on the roms
Advanced Task Killer
Angry Birds (of course)
Camera360 Ultimate
Minimalistic Text
Wireless Tether for Root Users
XDA's App
Zedge
My battery life has also took a change for the worse (only lasting about 6 hours of regular use). I'm thinking the cause for this might be because I didn't wipe the batt stats when I flashed the rom. Hopefully someone can help me out because my phone is really delayed now and draining the battery pretty fast. Thanks guys !!!
spc_hicks09 said:
I was just wondering, if I have a lot of stuff of my sd card, can this affect the speed of my Eris ? It's probably a stupid question but I was just wondering because I copied all the contents of my sd card onto my laptop then formatted my sd card and flashed Tazz Gingerbread v5 and it seemed pretty fast. Then I added my music back onto the card and my nandroid backup plus some other stuff and now regardless if I use Tazz's GB or Workshed's GB, they both seem really laggy and slow almost to the point where it seemed like the 2.2 roms were faster. Anyone got any input on this ? I mean I could understand maybe the bootup taking a little while because it's trying to read all the files and stuff but would it really make the overall functionality of the device a little slower ? Any tips on making my phone faster like getting rid of apps and stuff like that. I'm really confused because my device (other than the apps that come with the rom) only has 7 apps installed !!!
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Hi, Corporal Hicks. Aliens fan or actual military man? Anyway, you didn't say whether you installed the apps to your SD card or not, which would certainly affect the speed, especially for things that run constantly (not an expert opinion) and on boot.
One other possibility is file fragmentation. I don't know if it would be that fragmented after doing a fresh format and copying things over, though. Raxco PerfectDisk only says I have 5% fragmentation right now, and I haven't reformatted my SD card since perhaps September or so.
Maybe if the directory information (the FAT/File Allocation Table) itself is quite fragmented that would attribute to the slowdown you are noticing, making it take so long to go through the SD card's list of files.
"Game over man, GAME OVER!" - Aliens
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Hi, Corporal Hicks. Aliens fan or actual military man? Anyway, you didn't say whether you installed the apps to your SD card or not, which would certainly affect the speed, especially for things that run constantly (not an expert opinion) and on boot.
One other possibility is file fragmentation. I don't know if it would be that fragmented after doing a fresh format and copying things over, though. Raxco PerfectDisk only says I have 5% fragmentation right now, and I haven't reformatted my SD card since perhaps September or so.
Maybe if the directory information (the FAT/File Allocation Table) itself is quite fragmented that would attribute to the slowdown you are noticing, making it take so long to go through the SD card's list of files.
"Game over man, GAME OVER!" - Aliens
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Actual military, stationed in Hawaii for now. 25th ID! Anyway, no I didn't install any apps to the card and oddly enough I wanted to check it again to make sure. So again I deleted everything from my card and reformatted and again it was blazing fast. I'm confused, maybe a virus on my card or something ?
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Actual military, stationed in Hawaii for now. 25th ID! Anyway, no I didn't install any apps to the card and oddly enough I wanted to check it again to make sure. So again I deleted everything from my card and reformatted and again it was blazing fast. I'm confused, maybe a virus on my card or something ?
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I was in 1AD.
I doubt if it's a virus. Since I haven't tried either CM7 ROM, and I'm not even on CM6 right now, I don't remember if they default to "Automatic" as far as the location of application installs. Might be worth checking in the CM settings, just in case you didn't realize that some got installed to the card without you explicitly telling it to.
Of course, if the phone slows down after copying things back to your SD card (not an .android-secure folder, though, I hope) before you install any apps, then you know it's not because of installing apps. I would then only copy HALF of the things back to the SD card, instead of all, and see if it slows down.
Then as a comparison, I would only copy the OTHER half (after another fresh format) and again see if it slows down. If it slows down both times, then I don't know where to go from there unless you really feel like breaking it down further, like into quarters.
If only one of the two halves causes the phone to slow down, further cut that half into two, and only try one of those quarters at a time and test again. Time consuming, but all depends on how much you want to know and how much impact it makes on you.
Just to preface a couple of things:
I am not a developer.
I have never written code, a ROM, a Kernel, Theme, etc
I am just a regular Flashaholic that has been tinkering with Android since the OG EVO
I have about 300+ apps and games that I always restore to every ROM I run (What can I say, I am a Amazon Free App Whore and like to play games)
I have a Class 4 SanDisk 32 GB Micro SD card installed
If you are like me, you like to have the latest and the greatest on your phone and have been trying to find a good, stable build of Sense 3.5 for the EVO 3D. I have had issues with almost every Sense 3.5 ROM out there for the EVO 3D. Once I get everything flashed and restored, I get the dreaded bootloops every minute or so.
I tried most of the latest versions of 3.5 ROM's out there: Eternity, Hydro, Prime XL, AndroTech, etc. Every single one of them had issues with bootlooping (even though most people were saying it was a stable build) and I tried everything, fixing permissions, flashing a new kernel, wiping everything and starting fresh, etc. Nothing seemed to fix the issue. I got a few different suggestions to fix the issue. "It must be an incompatible app", "Try a different kernal", "Do a fresh flash and restore", "Don't restore data from the apps on Titanium Backup", etc. Nothing seemed to work. So, for the last week or two I have been playing around with different options trying to narrow down the issue.
The normal steps I would go through to get a new ROM setup (THIS CAUSED BOOTLOOPS):
Wipe Data, Cache and Dalvik 3 to 4 Times Each
Run Chad's Modified SuperWipe 2-3 times
Flash Sense 3.5 ROM
Reboot
Let it settle without logging into any accounts or restoring anything
Reboot to Recovery
Flash New Kernel (If desired)
Reboot and let settle
Reboot to Recovery
Flash Amaze Camera (If desired)
Reboot and let settle
Log Into Google (let sync), Log Into FB (let sync), log into all accounts (let sync)
Restore apps only (no data) through Titanium Backup
Let settle
Move all apps (that can be moved) to the SD card with App2SD Pro Application
The ROM might run fine for a little while, then BOOTLOOP
The last time I did this was 2 days ago on Prime XL Sense 3.5 and the same thing happened. I noticed that the phone would only bootloop when the application icons on the SD card started populating into the application drawer (meaning that the system was gathering them off of the SD card for use). Instead of wiping everything and starting over, I simply Uninstalled all applications with Titanium Backup and the bootloops stopped.
The steps I have taken since that have not caused a bootloop and have allowed me to reboot without issues:
Restored about 30 apps at a time all less than 30 Mb each
Moved only games under 30 Mb each to the SD Card through the HTC Low Storage Wizard
Installed a couple of 40+ Mb games like Blood & Glory and Bejeweled and did not move them to the SD card
With this process, I have been running Prime XL for more than 12 hours with only one random reboot and no bootloops. I can restart my phone with no issues.
I then moved a 40+ Mb game to my SD card and tried to reboot. Guess what, I got bootloops. I had to uninstall all the applications off of my SD card in between the 1 minute bootloops (took a few boots to get them all uninstalled since you have to do it through the Settings-->Applications-->SD Card menu). Once I got all of them off of my SD card, the bootloops stopped and I restored those applications again without the large game on my SD card and rebooted just fine. I repeated this again with a different app that was 40+ Mb and the same thing happened.
Like I said in the preface, I am no developer, coder, themer, etc. (Just a guy trying to figure out a problem), but it seems that the issue with these bootloops lies in reading large applications or games off of the SD card. It might also be the combination of having a lot of apps on the SD card and the larger app/game as well. It has nothing to do with anything else in the ROM as far as I can tell.
Hopefully a good dev can read this and find a way to fix the issue with whatever script is causing the problem. I think I have isolated the issue since the only thing that changed causing the bootloops was the larger app/game that I moved to the SD card.
It might help the devs if some other people can reproduce this issue and confirm what I am saying is correct for more than just me.
I have also tried this on Virus' Eternity 3.5 and Hydro 3.5 with similar results.
well let me ask you this...
are you the only one getting bootloops? seems if you are getting the same problem with every build, the issue is something you are doing. you should try getting a class 10 sd card or something with a much higher read capability and see if the issue goes away.
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cool story bro. and should i flash this from recovery? is a full format required before i flash???? oh wait.. wait..
also also...
it must take you years to flash a new rom... i dont understand the whole "let the phone settle" theory. as soon as i boot up i start logging into my accounts and sending text messages, browsing the web, using the phone. never had an issue that was traced back to "didnt let the phone settle" lol
in any case, i think you may be on to something here with this, but like i said the issue is isolated to your unique usage. flash a 3.0 rom like clean rom, go through that whole dragged out install process again, same scenario, set up, everything, and see if you get bootloops.
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well let me ask you this...
are you the only one getting bootloops? seems if you are getting the same problem with every build, the issue is something you are doing. you should try getting a class 10 sd card or something with a much higher read capability and see if the issue goes away.
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cool story bro. and should i flash this from recovery? is a full format required before i flash???? oh wait.. wait..
also also...
it must take you years to flash a new rom... i dont understand the whole "let the phone settle" theory. as soon as i boot up i start logging into my accounts and sending text messages, browsing the web, using the phone. never had an issue that was traced back to "didnt let the phone settle" lol
in any case, i think you may be on to something here with this, but like i said the issue is isolated to your unique usage. flash a 3.0 rom like clean rom, go through that whole dragged out install process again, same scenario, set up, everything, and see if you get bootloops.
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I'm not the only one getting bootloops. I have read the same issue with people getting bootloops in every Sense 3.5 ROM all over this forum. I have been flashing for about a year now and usually flash a new ROM every week or two. I used to not go through that extended process, but I have been trying different things to get 3.5 stable. I was more trying things that I have heard. (like letting it settle) I don't think it really does anything, but it can't hurt.
I don't have this issue with Sense 3.0 buddy. I usually just wipe everything once, Superwipe once and then flash and restore and with Sense 3.0 it works fine. I tried that with Sense 3.5 and got bootloops. So like I said in the OP I started trying different things. The list of what I did just shows that I was being extremely careful.
Trust me, it is not the process or the SD card, because I have never had this issue with any other type of ROM besides Sense 3.5 and I am not the only one experiencing the bootloops.
Also, Class on an SD card is not an exact measurement. A Class 4 can be better than a Class 10 because the manufacture measures the speed differently or as a best case scenario instead of consistent performance. See Wikipedia info below:
"The Speed Class Rating is the official unit of speed measurement for SD cards. The class number guarantees a minimum write speed as a multiple of 8 Mbit/s (1 MB/s). The SD Association defines several speed class ratings, but manufacturers may claim conformance to those ratings without independent verification."
"is not as specific as Speed Classes are on how to measure speed. Manufacturers may report best-case speeds and may report the card's fastest read speed, which is typically faster than the write speed."
I would say it has to be an issue with you restoring from titanium backup. If you are doing it In a batch and your like me there are some sense 3.0 apks in my backups. If you batch restore anything that doesn't play nice with sense 3.5 it doesn't matter.if you are restoring data or not.at that point
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cobraboy85 said:
well let me ask you this...
are you the only one getting bootloops? seems if you are getting the same problem with every build, the issue is something you are doing. you should try getting a class 10 sd card or something with a much higher read capability and see if the issue goes away.
also...
cool story bro. and should i flash this from recovery? is a full format required before i flash???? oh wait.. wait..
also also...
it must take you years to flash a new rom... i dont understand the whole "let the phone settle" theory. as soon as i boot up i start logging into my accounts and sending text messages, browsing the web, using the phone. never had an issue that was traced back to "didnt let the phone settle" lol
in any case, i think you may be on to something here with this, but like i said the issue is isolated to your unique usage. flash a 3.0 rom like clean rom, go through that whole dragged out install process again, same scenario, set up, everything, and see if you get bootloops.
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Ok, your first point was helpful, but the rest was necessarily douchey. You should have just said your first point and then told him wrong section instead of making yourself look like a child. Way to go dude.
drgonzo712 said:
I'm not the only one getting bootloops. I have read the same issue with people getting bootloops in every Sense 3.5 ROM all over this forum. I have been flashing for about a year now and usually flash a new ROM every week or two. I used to not go through that extended process, but I have been trying different things to get 3.5 stable. I was more trying things that I have heard. (like letting it settle) I don't think it really does anything, but it can't hurt.
I don't have this issue with Sense 3.0 buddy. I usually just wipe everything once, Superwipe once and then flash and restore and with Sense 3.0 it works fine. I tried that with Sense 3.5 and got bootloops. So like I said in the OP I started trying different things. The list of what I did just shows that I was being extremely careful.
Trust me, it is not the process or the SD card, because I have never had this issue with any other type of ROM besides Sense 3.5 and I am not the only one experiencing the bootloops.
Also, Class on an SD card is not an exact measurement. A Class 4 can be better than a Class 10 because the manufacture measures the speed differently or as a best case scenario instead of consistent performance. See Wikipedia info below:
"The Speed Class Rating is the official unit of speed measurement for SD cards. The class number guarantees a minimum write speed as a multiple of 8 Mbit/s (1 MB/s). The SD Association defines several speed class ratings, but manufacturers may claim conformance to those ratings without independent verification."
"is not as specific as Speed Classes are on how to measure speed. Manufacturers may report best-case speeds and may report the card's fastest read speed, which is typically faster than the write speed."
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Word. That makes a little more sense then… and yes I am familiar with the difference between class rating and read speeds. In my personal experience, sandisk and PNY are the two that consistently rate their cards accurately. I only use PNY myself… anyways, back on topic…
Like somebody else suggested before this, you should try not using titanium back. Try these two things…
1 ) uninstall ALL data/app/ files (basically all of your apps you add with TB)… run the ROM for a few days, see if you get reboots. Run processor at stock frequencies, etc etc… as STOCK as possible for a few days (other than you having a custom ROM obviously.)
2 ) re-install apps, and do it manually, 1 by 1, with root explorer (reason is because root explorer is faster when doing it manually) and do not backup, restore, any kind of data whatsoever. You just want .apks. do not install any of them to the SD card.
3 ) move larger apps to the SD card
4) move all apps possible to the sd card
The point here is to change one dimension of your functioning ROM one phase at a time so you can easily pinpoint what is causing your issues. Very detailed process of elimination is key when trouble-shooting anything. For each one of these steps, wait a couple days to move to the next one. The longer you go without having a problem, the more likely it is that a problem showing itself after the next phase was indeed caused by that phase.
I am suspicious of TB, to be honest… I would start by removing that app out of your daily routine. I have used my backup root since it was released and still never had an issue… the one time I used TB, had force closes, odd little un-explained issues… it just isn’t as simple as my backup root, and simplicity is what you want when using apps that backup all your ****. The more cut and dry, the better.
Good luck
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Wasn’t trying to be a douche about it.. but I guess it did kind of come off that way, haha. Sorry if I was a little bit critical in my comments… not intended, just how I communicate sometimes – forward and in black and white.
Anyways, to the OP, hopefully you are able to get somewhere with the input of my post… trouble-shooting can be annoying but the key is to be patient and do things in increments.
and i didnt come here spouting "oooo wrong section wrong section..." because thats not my job and i didnt want to come off like a douche... i try to contribute and not be so critical, but sometimes i just am.
I got a quick question why move apps to the SD card to begin with? The phone has massive amounts of internal storage.(why app2sd is left out of many ROMs for the 3vo)
I would rather have the SD space for roms, tweaks, music etc. I'm with you with the games and etc. I use a ton of different apps, I also store any apps I think I might use later on my SD card in uninstalled apk form...
An example is a Craigslist app I use, I rarely use it, so I install and uninstall as needed. And I've read that titanium backup doesn't play nice with batch operations.. just my 2 cents, and thanks for your post, I was gonna flash a sense 3.5 ROM tonight, not even gonna bother with it now.
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bmtdan said:
I would say it has to be an issue with you restoring from titanium backup. If you are doing it In a batch and your like me there are some sense 3.0 apks in my backups. If you batch restore anything that doesn't play nice with sense 3.5 it doesn't matter.if you are restoring data or not.at that point
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Can't be that, when I restore whatever apps from TB and don't move them to the SD card they are fine and the phone does great. It only happens when I move apps to the SD card. Shows that it doesn't have anything to do with the apps themselves, but something with Sense 3.5 reading them from my SD card.
hitman4274 said:
I got a quick question why move apps to the SD card to begin with? The phone has massive amounts of internal storage.(why app2sd is left out of many ROMs for the 3vo)
I would rather have the SD space for roms, tweaks, music etc. I'm with you with the games and etc. I use a ton of different apps, I also store any apps I think I might use later on my SD card in uninstalled apk form...
An example is a Craigslist app I use, I rarely use it, so I install and uninstall as needed. And I've read that titanium backup doesn't play nice with batch operations.. just my 2 cents, and thanks for your post, I was gonna flash a sense 3.5 ROM tonight, not even gonna bother with it now.
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cleanrom2.9.5
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Yes, it has 1GB of internal storage, but it is not enough when you have around 300 apps and games (Plants vs Zombies, Blood & Glory, Peggle, All the Angry Birds, etc) they go well above the 1 GB internal. I have to move to SD to get them all on there. I don't us A2SD, I just move them to the SD card through the standard process.
Update:
I hit a random reboot and then when it rebooted I started getting bootloops again even without moving the large apps/games to the SD card. So the process in the OP is not a fix, it just worked for a while.
However, when it was in between bootloops, I unmounted the SD card and they stopped.
The issue has to be something with the SD card being read by Sense 3.5 because I have never had this issue with Sense 3.0. What I am trying now is Formatting the SD card and the Partition on the SD card and starting fresh. Only going to move my pics and Nandroids back to the SD card. Hopefully a fresh SD card will allow me to move the apps over there and make things all good. Not to optimistic, but keeping my fingers crossed.
Found the solution!!
Ok, so after playing around with all this stuff for a long time and trying different things, I found out that if you move more than 59 apps (so 60 or more) to the SD card, you will get boot loops on Sense 3.5 if you move 59 or less everything works fine.
drgonzo712 said:
Ok, so after playing around with all this stuff for a long time and trying different things, I found out that if you move more than 59 apps (so 60 or more) to the SD card, you will get boot loops on Sense 3.5 if you move 59 or less everything works fine.
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So does the <59 rule still hold truth?
Im facing the same headache on cyanogen so it's definitely not just HTC with this problem.
drgonzo712 said:
Yes, it has 1GB of internal storage, but it is not enough when you have around 300 apps and games (Plants vs Zombies, Blood & Glory, Peggle, All the Angry Birds, etc) they go well above the 1 GB internal. I have to move to SD to get them all on there. I don't us A2SD, I just move them to the SD card through the standard process.
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that would give any phone the bootloops
So I purchased the newly released HTC Evo V 4g from Virgin Mobile. The phone boasts a 4gig ROM. Imagine my surprise when I fire the puppy up and there is only 1.1gigs available for my apps. What happened to the other 3+gigs? I can't believe the OS and Sense requires that much space. Is there anyway to reclaim some of that space so I don't have to push so much to my SD card?
cant do it
there is no way for you to reclaim this space its saved for updates and software on phone.
once it's rooted.. that might change.. or some dev will find a trick.. dunno..
theforcedroid said:
Is there anyway to reclaim some of that space so I don't have to push so much to my SD card?
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There is, but the demand for it is not needed. Maybe as apps get bigger, we'll see an implementation of the method called firerat, firat, or something like that.
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There is, but the demand for it is not needed. Maybe as apps get bigger, we'll see an implementation of the method called firerat, firat, or something like that.
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If it is possible and does not cause the phone to lose stability, then it must really not be in demand since I have yet to see a ROM that incorporates that.
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It's not ROM integrated. It is a whole separate process which takes place prior to ROM installation.
One day we'll see it. But today is not that day.
Howzit guys,
I have a HTC Aria the AT&T version. I've rooted my phone and all the jazz. I'm interested in putting this ROM on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1588599
What I want to know is how much internal space will be available once the ROM is installed. I currently an running Froyo/w HTC Sense and there just isn't enough internal storage space on the phone.
Regards
There's much more space in non HTC Sense roms I think. If I remember correctly, there's about 118mb free at the start.
Also, you can use S2E to move your dalvik cache to the sd card which will give you an additional 50-100mb depending on your apps.
Where can I get S2E?
You can find s2e on the Google Play store. It uses a partition on your sd card. To create the partition you can use a function in the Rom Manager app, which should have come with the ROM you installed. If not, its also on the Play store. You can also create the partition with Clockwork recovery. It will completely wipe your sd card, so make sure you have a backup of stuff you want to save. The ROM Manager method is a little easier.
Once the partition is setup, s2e will give you the option of loading cache and program files to the sd card partition. When you have it load program files, it automatically loads all existing and new downloaded programs to the sd partition. Even those that usually don't provide that option. In fact, DON'T SET "MOVE TO SD" FOR INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS. While it sounds a little counter-intuitive, it will actually defeat the s2e function. The sd partition actually becomes an extension of your phone's memory. Its a very clever program for phones with limited memory.
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I found the app but it's not compatible with my phone and I also saw this
S2E works only with CyanogenMod7 and CyanogenMod9!
I'm not running CyanogenMod
ZorAxe said:
I found the app but it's not compatible with my phone and I also saw this
S2E works only with CyanogenMod7 and CyanogenMod9!
I'm not running CyanogenMod
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Well, we assumed you were switching to CyanogenMod. That's why we recommended that app.
It only works on CM. Sorry if I confused you.
Me to. In your first post you said you were going to load CM 9.
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ZorAxe said:
I found the app but it's not compatible with my phone and I also saw this
S2E works only with CyanogenMod7 and CyanogenMod9!
I'm not running CyanogenMod
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If you are concerned about free space, I'd advise you to install Cyanogenmod and then use S2E. If configured correctly, it will give you as much space for apps as you are willing to dedicate on your SD card. Preferably do that only with a reasonably fast SD card (class 2 is probably too slow).
Sorry if I caused confusion there. Out of all the ROM available for HTC Aria, which do you guys rate as the best and which are you currently using?
I don't wanna go through all the effort of installing and backing-up and it turns out I put a bad ROM on my phone.
I would recommend this ROM by WinSuk. I think it is the most up-to-date CM9 / ICS ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451906
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ZorAxe said:
Sorry if I caused confusion there. Out of all the ROM available for HTC Aria, which do you guys rate as the best and which are you currently using?
I don't wanna go through all the effort of installing and backing-up and it turns out I put a bad ROM on my phone.
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I would recommend CM7.2. even though it's not as up to date as ICS, it's very stable, and no bugs as far as I can tell.
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=stable&device=liberty
I've always been a Sense-ROM sort of guy for my Aria - tried CM7 a while back, and found the battery life wanting in comparison. But lately, I'm sick of seeing the "not-compatible" message with some of the newer apps on the market...
Is CM7.2 worth a look? It's Android 2.3, correct?
I don't like the list of issues with the camera on CM9, otherwise I would jump on that Winsuk ROM. I use my camera a lot - take pictures of receipts for Evernote, purchase comparisons, barcode scanning, etc. I can't afford to lose any basic camera functionality.
gfinockio said:
I've always been a Sense-ROM sort of guy for my Aria - tried CM7 a while back, and found the battery life wanting in comparison. But lately, I'm sick of seeing the "not-compatible" message with some of the newer apps on the market...
Is CM7.2 worth a look? It's Android 2.3, correct?
I don't like the list of issues with the camera on CM9, otherwise I would jump on that Winsuk ROM. I use my camera a lot - take pictures of receipts for Evernote, purchase comparisons, barcode scanning, etc. I can't afford to lose any basic camera functionality.
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I use Cy 7.2 before and it is really great, I just couldn't get used to the keyboard, but I'm really considering going back because internal space is becoming an issue.
ZorAxe said:
I use Cy 7.2 before and it is really great, I just couldn't get used to the keyboard, but I'm really considering going back because internal space is becoming an issue.
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I use Swype for the keyboard. You should try it out.
Are you using S2E? if not, I really recommend you use it. Just follow yar2's small tutorial he gave you.
gfinockio said:
I've always been a Sense-ROM sort of guy for my Aria - tried CM7 a while back, and found the battery life wanting in comparison. But lately, I'm sick of seeing the "not-compatible" message with some of the newer apps on the market...
Is CM7.2 worth a look? It's Android 2.3, correct?
I don't like the list of issues with the camera on CM9, otherwise I would jump on that Winsuk ROM. I use my camera a lot - take pictures of receipts for Evernote, purchase comparisons, barcode scanning, etc. I can't afford to lose any basic camera functionality.
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I used to be a Sense guy too, but with all the customizations CM7.2 had to offer, I just couldn't go back. Although, the battery life is a little bit of an issue(Not too much though).
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I've always been a Sense-ROM sort of guy for my Aria - tried CM7 a while back, and found the battery life wanting in comparison. But lately, I'm sick of seeing the "not-compatible" message with some of the newer apps on the market...
Is CM7.2 worth a look? It's Android 2.3, correct?
I don't like the list of issues with the camera on CM9, otherwise I would jump on that Winsuk ROM. I use my camera a lot - take pictures of receipts for Evernote, purchase comparisons, barcode scanning, etc. I can't afford to lose any basic camera functionality.
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Not trying to advertise or anything here (okay maybe ), but in case you haven't looked at the CM9 thread in awhile, everything works on the camera except video (which used to work, which is strange), and a separate app can be used to take it if needed.
There's also a 2.3 based sense ROM around here somewhere ("Gingersense" I think), but I don't remember if everything works on it..
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There's also a 2.3 based sense ROM around here somewhere ("Gingersense" I think), but I don't remember if everything works on it..
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【ROM】liberty_sense3.5_Bliss_Beta2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525324
HTC Liberty S "ZY Modded" RC3.1 [Gingersense 2.3.3]: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525324
HTC Liberty S 3.5 "ZY MODDED"(Port of HTX Zero WS):http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1568366
Liberty S(GingerSense 2.3.3) 4th of July BBQ Special: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151921
I think this is most of them. which one where you referring to?
WinSuk said:
Not trying to advertise or anything here (okay maybe ), but in case you haven't looked at the CM9 thread in awhile, everything works on the camera except video (which used to work, which is strange), and a separate app can be used to take it if needed.
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So what doesn't work, then? FM radio? Watching videos on Youtube?
Also - none of those "Gingersense" ROMs were worth much, as Bluetooth and other functionality would either crash the phone or not work at all. Never a true working phone option...
aster190 said:
【ROM】liberty_sense3.5_Bliss_Beta2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525324
HTC Liberty S "ZY Modded" RC3.1 [Gingersense 2.3.3]: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525324
HTC Liberty S 3.5 "ZY MODDED"(Port of HTX Zero WS):http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1568366
Liberty S(GingerSense 2.3.3) 4th of July BBQ Special: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151921
I think this is most of them. which one where you referring to?
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Not sure now... I think I tried at least one awhile ago.. didn't keep it for very long though
gfinockio said:
So what doesn't work, then? FM radio? Watching videos on Youtube?
Also - none of those "Gingersense" ROMs were worth much, as Bluetooth and other functionality would either crash the phone or not work at all. Never a true working phone option...
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Everything not working is listed in the thread. Pretty much only one major thing remains - videos use a software decoder instead of hardware, and if videos are too big (say, bigger then the screen's resolution) they play slow. So HQ on YouTube is mostly unwatchable, but LQ plays fine
There's also a bug/memory leak in the decoder, and if it goes too long the system will run out of memory & reboot (this bug is fixed in Jellybean/CM10 though)
FM radio works with Spirit FM
I should note that battery life probably won't be as good though (kind of expected with all the new stuff I think)
You can always try it and revert back if you don't like it
I read through the thread - it sounds more like a testing ROM than an everyday ROM still, at least for how I would use it.
I might take the leap to CM7.2 again though, and hope I can manage the battery better.
Ok so I really need to put a new ROM on now cause my phones internal storage is so low I can't even open my Gallery anymore. I've been looking at CM7 or CM9 but there's so many different version on each, how do I know which is the most stable for everyday use?
I bought my wife a Nook tablet 16g for Christmas (certified preowned) the stock ROM on the device is useless, aside from no access to google play interaction with the touchscreen is choppy and laggy, and sometimes you have to select items three times before they are selected, is this normal for a stock B&N tab?
I've spent the last three days scowering this forum gathering information, so far all I've done is loaded CM7 from this thread to SD card only, modifying it a bit to just do CM7. I chose CM7 because I figured it being an older ROM it would have most hardware working correctly and be the least buggy. Needless to say the device works great with this ROM none of the issues I experienced with the stock B&N ROM existed (great job devs. much appreciated) the only thing that struck me as odd with this ROM was it didn't seem optimized for a tablet and certainly not this tablet, as all the stock phone apps were still there, as well as camera and bluetooth. Is there a ROM out there that's more suited for the nook tablet is my next question, and can all these ROMs be put on SD card and booted from there rather than altering the internal software.
Next question is can the stock ROM be altered to make it usable? Rooting obviously, maybe a different kernel so things function smoothly, adding google play. This tablet is for my wife who is not very tech savy so the more simple I can make the device to use the better.
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions that can be provided, this is only the second device I've worked with, the first being me and my wife's Samsung Infuse, so the more detailed the help the better, I am literate and not opposed to reading so good links to learning resources would be great, however I would like answers to my few questions.
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I've spent the last three days scowering this forum gathering information, so far all I've done is loaded CM7 from this thread to SD card only, modifying it a bit to just do CM7. I chose CM7 because I figured it being an older ROM it would have most hardware working correctly and be the least buggy. Needless to say the device works great with this ROM none of the issues I experienced with the stock B&N ROM existed (great job devs. much appreciated) the only thing that struck me as odd with this ROM was it didn't seem optimized for a tablet and certainly not this tablet, as all the stock phone apps were still there, as well as camera and bluetooth. Is there a ROM out there that's more suited for the nook tablet is my next question, and can all these ROMs be put on SD card and booted from there rather than altering the internal software.
Next question is can the stock ROM be altered to make it usable? Rooting obviously, maybe a different kernel so things function smoothly, adding google play. This tablet is for my wife who is not very tech savy so the more simple I can make the device to use the better.
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions that can be provided, this is only the second device I've worked with, the first being me and my wife's Samsung Infuse, so the more detailed the help the better, I am literate and not opposed to reading so good links to learning resources would be great, however I would like answers to my few questions.
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I find rooted stock to be just marginally better than stock: many newer apps are not backward compatible with Android Gingerbread release (which stock ROM (as well as CM7) is based on), the co-habiting of the stock and CM10 interfaces quite awkward.
I'd suggest you first try running CM10 off an SD card, that way you can conveniently switch back and forth to stock and compare them, and flash it if you decide you like it.
And cm10 is well optimized for the tablet. Cm7 did seem to have the extra phone rudimentary stuff, but remember it was the first custom rom on the NT. Since then, the other roms are quite polished.
Excellent info thanks a lot guys I'm going to load a SD with CM10 and let my wife give it a whirl.
Is a class 10 micro SD too fast for this tablet? I thought in my reading I came across something about class 10 SD's being problematic, I may have mis-read though.
I just realized the thread I said I used to get the CM7 SD boot image, wasn't the one I actually used, so I though I already had an SD bootable .img of CM10 JB, but I guess I don't. What is the most problem free SD bootable version of CM10 JB (link if possible)? I really don't want to modify the internal storage of the unit till I'm 100% sure everything works good on the unit and I find the best ROM for it (which sounds like CM10 JB)
I don't have much to compare with, but I used this more or less fool proof guide: http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
I ran the 1208 build from sd until a few days ago when I put it internally. I can't say I noticed any improvements running it internally compared to from sd so it's really good option in my opinion. (My Tablet har no problem booting from sd-card. Others have more problem and for those internal is a better choice.)
asawi said:
I don't have much to compare with, but I used this more or less fool proof guide: http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
I ran the 1208 build from sd until a few days ago when I put it internally. I can't say I noticed any improvements running it internally compared to from sd so it's really good option in my opinion. (My Tablet har no problem booting from sd-card. Others have more problem and for those internal is a better choice.)
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Thank you so much, just what i was looking for something simple and easy. I'm fine experimenting and learning on my own device but my wife just wants to use the dang thing. I noticed there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of SD images on the forums (unless I'm just not digging deep enough) i'm wondering why as booting from the SD seems like a great way to keep the device within warranty and get all the benifits of a rooted full android device.
dginsd said:
Thank you so much, just what i was looking for something simple and easy. I'm fine experimenting and learning on my own device but my wife just wants to use the dang thing. I noticed there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of SD images on the forums (unless I'm just not digging deep enough) i'm wondering why as booting from the SD seems like a great way to keep the device within warranty and get all the benifits of a rooted full android device.
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Many NTs will only boot into SD from power-off and on insertion of a powered-USB cable -- an inconvenience if/when the NT ever hangs or reboots and you don't have a usb cable and a power source (e.g., wall/car charger or powered usb hub).
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Many NTs will only boot into SD from power-off and on insertion of a powered-USB cable -- an inconvenience if/when the NT ever hangs or reboots and you don't have a usb cable and a power source (e.g., wall/car charger or powered usb hub).
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So is there any advantage to flashing to internal storage if booting into the SD card is not an issue?
asawl: thank you so much for the link, this ROM is awesome my wife will be Oh so happy.
dginsd said:
So is there any advantage to flashing to internal storage if booting into the SD card is not an issue?
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None, unless you want/need to swap sd cards for media storage.
On the other hand, few people who use CM would ever want to go back to stock, so keeping stock is mostly for convenience in the event of warranty claim (you can also just backup prior to flashing CM and restore stock when needed). Once the warranty expires, there is no reason to keep stock and waste space.