read this: the purpose of this post is to let folks know that if you htcdev unlock with s-off,your device will go back to reading unlocked until you relock it,at wich time it will read relocked,just like before you s-offed.
what does this mean?! if you dont care about getting back to a locked state for warranty purposes,then it doesnt mean anything. if one of the big reasons that you s-offed in the first place was to get back to locked,then,as the title says,dont unlock with htcdev after s-off. you can install recoveries and hboots via hboot in a PH98IMG files,or you can install available patched hboots to enable engineering commands.
i hope this helps clarify it for those who were confused by the title. my intention was not to cause panic,simply to educate folks in what id found,as i know the subject of locked/relocked is very important to some.
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ok,i have been posting in several threads that the unlocking after s-off is no big deal. i still maintain that.
however...
on my other s-off,htcdev devices,reflashing the hboot/running an RUU makes the device locked again. after more discussion with con,i decided i better test if i was gonna keep saying it.
i stand corrected!
i started by flashing back the 2.11.000 hboot and unlocking it. i flashed it again. still unlocked.. hmmm. so i flashed jp patched hboot,now juopunutbear flashed 2.11 back. still unlocked. hmmm.
so i relocked. reflashed 2.11. still relocked. uh oh. flashed the eng hboot. now relocked eng 2.11.20005,lol... relocked engineering hboot. flashed the 2.05.0000 ship hboot. still relocked.
at this point i ran the entire RUU for 2.01.605.11. still relocked
i plan to try flashing the leak ruu,then 2.01.605.11 again,but for now,im tired. 6am comes very shortly.
i should have known this phone would somehow be different
moral of the story is that if you are one of the folks whom care about your hboot saying locked,dont unlock it
sorry for any misconceptions based on my experiences with other devices
scotty1223 said:
ok,i have been seen posting in several threads that the unlocking after s-off is no big deal. i still maintain that.
however...
on my other s-off,htcdev devices,reflashing the hboot/running an RUU makes the device locked again. after more discussion with con,i decided i better test if i was gonna keep saying it.
i stand corrected!
i started by flashing back the 2.11.000 hboot and unlocking it. i flashed it again. still unlocked.. hmmm. so i flashed jp patched hboot,now juopunutbear flashed 2.11 back. still unlocked. hmmm.
so i relocked. reflashed 2.11. still relocked. uh oh. flashed the eng hboot. now unlocked eng 2.11.20005,lol... unlocked engineering hboot. flashed the 2.05.0000 ship hboot. still relocked.
at this point i ran the entire RUU for 2.01.605.11. still relocked
i plan to try flashing the leak ruu,then 2.01.605.11 again,but for now,im tired. 6am comes very shortly.
i should have known this phone would somehow be different
moral of the story is that if you are one of the folks whom care about your hboot saying locked,dont unlock it
sorry for any misconceptions based on my experiences with other devices
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I am betting you can s-on the phone then re s-off and have it say locked. Or someone could edit an hboot to just say locked.
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I am betting you can s-on the phone then re s-off and have it say locked. Or someone could edit an hboot to just say locked.
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im sure it can be edited,im sure thats how we became locked again after s-off. and yeah im certain re-s-off-ing would do it too
i dont personally care,my device has no mfg warranty and its kinda neat to me that it appears to stay unlocked thru up/downgrades,and if i want to run the eng or patched hboots,i still can.
i just wanted to prevent others who do care from becoming entrapped back in the situation because of other advice i may have given. should have tested first,spoke later
When I did my S-OFF I was on 2.11 hboot and the ICS firmware. I flashed the juonoptioeefianwefo hboot and then the ENG hboot and old firmware patch. My end result was it saying "locked" in hboot.
I was rather pissed off since I the reason I flashed the ENG hboot was so that it would say "unlocked" instead of juonoptionaofewhf.
My warranty is voided several times over in other ways* so it doesn't matter much to me and after the huge amount of time getting the darn wire trick to work I was rather proud to have my phone say S-OFF and "unlocked".
*apparently living in a high humidity area is enough to trigger the wetness seals.
jefffeely said:
When I did my S-OFF I was on 2.11 hboot and the ICS firmware. I flashed the juonoptioeefianwefo hboot and then the ENG hboot and old firmware patch. My end result was it saying "locked" in hboot.
I was rather pissed off since I the reason I flashed the ENG hboot was so that it would say "unlocked" instead of juonoptionaofewhf.
My warranty is voided several times over in other ways* so it doesn't matter much to me and after the huge amount of time getting the darn wire trick to work I was rather proud to have my phone say S-OFF and "unlocked".
*apparently living in a high humidity area is enough to trigger the wetness seals.
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Yeah high humidity trips em lol. I had an iPhone 3G back in the day trip both the headphone Jack and charging port water markers on a 70% humidity day.
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The number of things that can happen to invalidate your warranty really is annoying. My cousin has a completely stock Inspire that is stuck on hboot but AT&T won't touch it because it has a small ding in the case from when she dropped it.
After S-OFF (GB stock, amon ra, rooted system), I erroneously thought I needed to unlock. Then I locked the bootloader for any future OTA update and it showed Relocked.
I reinstalled the ENG hboot, but it still shows Relocked.
I asked in the sbear chat room, and the answer was
there is no simple way to get the ENG hboot to change from displaying Relocked to display just plain Locked.
But...It is just cosmetic and doesn't really matter.
Howard
No offense to OP, but can you change the title of this thread? It scared me.
I ran the S-OFF method yesterday in 7 minutes with no issues. I was on the new firmware and BAMF 2.1. I chose to keep the 2.21 HBOOT. I had to unlock via HTC in order to flash recovery after performing the S-OFF method. Some folks are saying that you to do not need to unlock once you have S-OFF. All I can say is that I could not flash recovery without unlocking the phone.
I don't know what any of this means...
I just think this makes it more confusing for people..
Mine said 'Locked' after S-Off so I just unlocked it and everything seemed better..
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No offense to OP, but can you change the title of this thread? It scared me.
I ran the S-OFF method yesterday in 7 minutes with no issues. I was on the new firmware and BAMF 2.1. I chose to keep the 2.21 HBOOT. I had to unlock via HTC in order to flash recovery after performing the S-OFF method. Some folks are saying that you to do not need to unlock once you have S-OFF. All I can say is that I could not flash recovery without unlocking the phone.
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That is because you kept the stock hboot which doesn't allow for fastboot commands without being unlocked. By choosing one of Jp's hboot's or the eng hboot you could have installed recovery without unlocking. I did the same thing. So I went back to s-on and redid the s-off procedure and installed jb's hboot. Now I am s-off and locked again. Whew!
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Irieone said:
No offense to OP, but can you change the title of this thread? It scared me.
I ran the S-OFF method yesterday in 7 minutes with no issues. I was on the new firmware and BAMF 2.1. I chose to keep the 2.21 HBOOT. I had to unlock via HTC in order to flash recovery after performing the S-OFF method. Some folks are saying that you to do not need to unlock once you have S-OFF. All I can say is that I could not flash recovery without unlocking the phone.
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I second this. I had to unlock before I could flash recovery. I don't care that my phone says unlocked, just wanted to point out that for one reason or another some have had to unlock again.
Good usage of Smileys.
I agree with scotty, my hboot says locked and I have s-off so far I have flashed everything except for ruu's. Even recoveries worked.
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I was on the latest firmware and RezROM ICS. Performed S-OFF and never seen an option to install JB-Hboot so I didnt. At that time mine said UNLOCKED/TAMPERED.
Then after a couple of days of reading and trying to decide what to do next I decided to RUU down to the latest official and as soon as that was finished I went back to boot loader and it said LOCKED / S-OFF. I flashed the ENG Hboot with no issues and Now it says LOCKED / VIGOR PVT ENG S-OFF RL.
I also made a backup of RezROM before all this. Restored my backup, flashed the firmware patch, flashed PH that came with RezROM and rebooted and have had no issues at all.
I am not in a 4G area so I might actually have the issue others were having with 4G dropping out. Will have to wait and see.
zone23 said:
I don't know what any of this means...
I just think this makes it more confusing for people..
Mine said 'Locked' after S-Off so I just unlocked it and everything seemed better..
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Ditto
I was/am on the stock GB firmware, completed S-OFF, phone said locked (still on stock GB HBOOT), I unlocked it ... no problems since.
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After S-OFF (GB stock, amon ra, rooted system), I erroneously thought I needed to unlock. Then I locked the bootloader for any future OTA update and it showed Relocked.
I reinstalled the ENG hboot, but it still shows Relocked.
I asked in the sbear chat room, and the answer was
there is no simple way to get the ENG hboot to change from displaying Relocked to display just plain Locked.
But...It is just cosmetic and doesn't really matter.
Howard
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I saw you sign on. Did they ever answer my question about running the tool multiple times?
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Irieone said:
No offense to OP, but can you change the title of this thread? It scared me.
I ran the S-OFF method yesterday in 7 minutes with no issues. I was on the new firmware and BAMF 2.1. I chose to keep the 2.21 HBOOT. I had to unlock via HTC in order to flash recovery after performing the S-OFF method. Some folks are saying that you to do not need to unlock once you have S-OFF. All I can say is that I could not flash recovery without unlocking the phone.
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No,I won't change the title. To some folks its important to stay locked. I will try and clarify the op later today.
You don't need to unlock to install a recovery. It's easily permanently flashed via a PH98IMG,or fastboot booted via the jpbear patched hboots.
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dmoses1969 said:
I was on the latest firmware and RezROM ICS. Performed S-OFF and never seen an option to install JB-Hboot so I didnt. At that time mine said UNLOCKED/TAMPERED.
Then after a couple of days of reading and trying to decide what to do next I decided to RUU down to the latest official and as soon as that was finished I went back to boot loader and it said LOCKED / S-OFF. I flashed the ENG Hboot with no issues and Now it says LOCKED / VIGOR PVT ENG S-OFF RL.
I also made a backup of RezROM before all this. Restored my backup, flashed the firmware patch, flashed PH that came with RezROM and rebooted and have had no issues at all.
I am not in a 4G area so I might actually have the issue others were having with 4G dropping out. Will have to wait and see.
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I'm in the same situation. There's a thread here on how to fix it but I guarantee your 4G is whacked. I flashed back to a GB stock ROM then flashed an ICS ROM. Seemed to work okay when in my 3G only area but I visited a 4G area yesterday and it was just messed up. I flashed the latest GB RUU and did a reset from the stock hboot, flashed JuopunutBear hboot for GB, then AmonRa 3.15 and CleanROM DE. I'm going back to a 4G area tomorrow so if it doesn't work I'll post in that thread. Could just be me but everything about the phone seems better/cooler/faster after the RUU.
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I agree with scotty, my hboot says locked and I have s-off so far I have flashed everything except for ruu's. Even recoveries worked.
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I've flashed JuopunutBear hboot (GB and ICS), eng hboot, stock hboot, AmonRa, a nandroid, and a few roms after locked/s-off and have had no problem. Just flash eng or juopunutbear hboot before flashing recovery and you're good to go.
Edit: I was on the appropriate firmware when flashing the GB and ICS hboots.
Recovery can still be flashed as a PH file on the regular HBOOT.
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HTC having last laugh?
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because like a a few others on here, i still run the 1.04 eng-hboot because there are things i actually use in it. no i am not dev unlocked nor do i ever plan to.
No. If your S-Off your S-Off. Once your done you can downgrade back to your 1.04 eng bootloader if you want. But from what I'm seeing ICS isn't working properly without the newest H-Boot. I haven't flashed any of this yet, but I've seen this stated for the past couple days.
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No. If your S-Off your S-Off. Once your done you can downgrade back to your 1.04 eng bootloader if you want. But from what I'm seeing ICS isn't working properly without the newest H-Boot. I haven't flashed any of this yet, but I've seen this stated for the past couple days.
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your correct sir..
triscuit1983 said:
No. If your S-Off your S-Off. Once your done you can downgrade back to your 1.04 eng bootloader if you want. But from what I'm seeing ICS isn't working properly without the newest H-Boot. I haven't flashed any of this yet, but I've seen this stated for the past couple days.
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i know they aren't. and RUUs (yes, i know this isnt one) have been know to revert to s-on so i was just making sure.
Howdy,
I'm trying to get S-OFF on my Sprint Evo 3D so I can install this ROM. The documentation says that I need HBOOT 1.58 and S-OFF.
I was trying to following the directions from this thread here.
Originally, I had unlocked using the HTC Dev Unlock method, so I used the relock tool. After that my bootloader said "Relocked" and "Security Warning". I moved to the next step -- pseudo-bricking the phone by corrupting the HBOOT update process. However, nothing I do will get the phone to brick. I've tried about 10 different times (varying the wait time before I pull the power each time) and I never get it to brick. Here are all of my relevant settings and files that I'm using.
Current HBOOT banner: "Relocked" (Security Warning disappeared at some point)
HBOOT ver: 1.50
S-ON
RUU I'm using to corrupt HBOOT: 2.17 from here
If anyone can help me get this sorted out I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
Why would you brick.the.phone? Just get unlocked + root and do the wiretrick by juopunotbear, takes 5 minutes.
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muidem said:
Howdy,
Current HBOOT banner: "Relocked" (Security Warning disappeared at some point)
HBOOT ver: 1.50
S-ON
If anyone can help me get this sorted out I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
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I've got a guide here that can help you get a rooted and S-OFF configuration for a Sprint Evo 3D pretty easily.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
I've got a guide here that can help you get a rooted and S-OFF configuration for a Sprint Evo 3D pretty easily.
ramjet73
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Thanks, I'll give this a shot when I get back from class. Just to be clear, if I use this method will I eventually be able to end up on HBOOT 1.58 so that I can use ROMs with the 2.89 kernel? I have only just skimmed over your post before class so if that question is answered in there then nvm!
Once s-off, you can flash any hboot you want.
sudo passwd root
Worked like a champ! Thanks so much.
I know you are fairly new here, but as a future reference. It is common courtesy to hit the thank you button if somebody helps you. Ramjet's guide is the easist and quickest way for sprint users to gain s-off on the new ics firmware and hboot.
Im currently severely stressed at the fact i cant do any rom testing or anything for that matter im stuck on stock and was wondering could i downgrade my hboot with s-on ive tried everything in my power to recieve s-off but no dirty racun or lazy panda has worked.... or rum runner any help would be greatly appreciated
my hboot is 2.10 is there an s-off at this hboot
master_maus said:
Im currently severely stressed at the fact i cant do any rom testing or anything for that matter im stuck on stock and was wondering could i downgrade my hboot with s-on ive tried everything in my power to recieve s-off but no dirty racun or lazy panda has worked.... or rum runner any help would be greatly appreciated
my hboot is 2.10 is there an s-off at this hboot
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Rumrunner should work.
Being s-on sucks, but you can still run custom ROMs. You just need to download the ROM's zip file to your pc, unzip it and fastboot flash the boot.img.
Someone might still have the necessary files for firewater s-off.
Rumrunner is the only method to S-off Hboot 2.10. You'll have to be S-off to downgrade via RUU to an older Android version. Might want to hit up the Rumrunner thread and make sure that you've got your computer set up properly to run it. Firewater has been discontinued and is no longer supported by its developers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498684
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Rumrunner is the only method to S-off Hboot 2.10. You'll have to be S-off to downgrade via RUU to an older Android version. Might want to hit up the Rumrunner thread and make sure that you've got your computer set up properly to run it. Firewater has been discontinued and is no longer supported by its developers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498684
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it gets to fermenting then says exit but s is still on
so now i got farther but it says get later version at rumrunners.us but im running the latest?
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so now i got farther but it says get later version at rumrunners.us but im running the latest?
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help?
Hi guys,
I didn't want to post here, but it is my last resort.. i am curently trying to get my htc evo 3d gsm to s-off, but with no success. the last solution i tried seemd to work to some point, but i don't know what happened and it didn't set my evo on s-off, although it said so. it relocked it, but i managed to re-unlock it after several atempts. I want to do that wire trick, but my hboot version is 1.53.0007 and i cannot find a working tutorial. unless i try to downgrade my hboot, i don't see any other solution. Tried a couple of times to downgrade, but failed. can anyone help me?
alexstefan335 said:
Hi guys,
I didn't want to post here, but it is my last resort.. i am curently trying to get my htc evo 3d gsm to s-off, but with no success. the last solution i tried seemd to work to some point, but i don't know what happened and it didn't set my evo on s-off, although it said so. it relocked it, but i managed to re-unlock it after several atempts. I want to do that wire trick, but my hboot version is 1.53.0007 and i cannot find a working tutorial. unless i try to downgrade my hboot, i don't see any other solution. Tried a couple of times to downgrade, but failed. can anyone help me?
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there's isn't much to say, use wiretrick, it works with hboot 1.53, you'll gain s-off, then you'll have to downgrade hboot to 1.49, you just need to be patient and try again and again. else there's another procedure that let you load an older ruu (downgrade) by bricking the phone in a certain way!
Snoob25 said:
there's isn't much to say, use wiretrick, it works with hboot 1.53, you'll gain s-off, then you'll have to downgrade hboot to 1.49, you just need to be patient and try again and again. else there's another procedure that let you load an older ruu (downgrade) by bricking the phone in a certain way!
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can you point to me a tutorial which i could follow? i tried a few i found on the web, but i got stuck among te process, i'd apreciate if you could help me with that
alexstefan335 said:
can you point to me a tutorial which i could follow? i tried a few i found on the web, but i got stuck among te process, i'd apreciate if you could help me with that
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http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm
this is what you need to get s-off. for downgrade it's needed only a file, eventually i'll upload it for you