I'm rather curious as to why HTC or for that matter other makers have to make different build of a particular model for all 3 variants.
Why is that only for Sprint & Verizon that phone makers have to make specials versions of Android for them? Why can't International versions be used on them?
I think the international version is made the way it is because there are lesser restrictions on devices abroad.
Even it comes to the US, Sprint and Verizon devices need to be manufactured differently for them to work on the carriers network.
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Sprint and Verizon are cdma,different hardware their own little world in comparison to the rest of the planet using gsm(international)
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I think the international version is made the way it is because there are lesser restrictions on devices abroad.
Even it comes to the US, Sprint and Verizon devices need to be manufactured differently for them to work on the carriers network.
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Wonders_Never_Cease said:
Sprint and Verizon are cdma,different hardware their own little world in comparison to the rest of the planet using gsm(international)
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Thanks ceo4eva & Winders_Never_Cease for your replies. Cheers
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Will everything that works for the at&t note work for the Rogers note? Like unlocking, rooting and custom roms?
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Yuongn said:
Will everything that works for the at&t note work for the Rogers note? Like unlocking, rooting and custom roms?
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They will most likely use the same rooting methods.
Possible the same ROMs
And it's possible they may require a different kernel.
It's really hard to say though. Your best answer is to look at previous Rogers / AT&T phone development on Samsung phones. I really hope they share the same ROMs.
They NEVER use the same ROM but it is not to say you can't interchange ROMs. Sometimes, there is some very small hardware differences as well. They have different product code as well. By all means, they are not the same phone.
I have owned several rogers phones that are also on at&t i can confirm that so far thy have been identical only major difference is one has at&t crap and one has rogers crap. As far as Roms they are usually the same.
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Are the Bell and Telus versions also interchangeable with the at&t version? With regards to both development and general network use (voice, UMTS, LTE...)
Reason I'm asking is because those 2 carriers don't brand their phones unlike Rogers and at&t. The Streak and international phones have spoiled me in that way.
That i can't say forsure but my guess would be they are all the same. If anything the kernels may been to be changed depending on your network
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THe Robellus ones will have 1700 AWS LTE whil the AT&T one does not include these frequencies, or so is the norm on most devices according to what i have heard
You will know when the rest of us do.
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The Radio is usually the biggest difference other than the bloat from both companies
Here is my issue. I am currently in the US. I might teach ESL overseas in Korea in January. I am not sure which phone to get. Will the USA one work over in Korea? Will thew international one work in the US?
It could work but Sprint has the radios locked.
Would developers be able to get them unlocked?
Buy international set
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Would developers be able to get them unlocked?
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They propably can but the intl one supports more radio frequensies and is assembled to work worldwide so I'd buy it in any case rather than us version.
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The international one works in the US flawless... just not on all carriers... it works the best on AT&T if you want to use it in the US and get 4G(HSPA+)
You can use it on T-Mobile but you will have to settle for EDGE(2G)
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It would work on most carriers which uses the international frequencies.
Not just AT&T for US. Works with Rogers, Fido, Telus, and Bell Mobility in Canada for instance.
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The international one works in the US flawless... just not on all carriers... it works the best on AT&T if you want to use it in the US and get 4G(HSPA+)
You can use it on T-Mobile but you will have to settle for EDGE(2G)
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Just a side note, HSPA+ is not 4G. It's still 3G. LTE/WiMax is 4G.
so which companies will it work with 4g/lte? Will it not work with Sprint? Anyone know any deals for the international version?
Sprint (and Verizon) is on an old CDMA network while the majority of the world is on GSM, you know, operating with a SIM card. If you're set on travelling, it's better to get any of the GSM-variant, that way, you can just pop in any sim card from any major carriers all over the world.
I currently have a photon which has a sim card slot in it. So the Galaxy s international wont work on Sprint? Damn I want to keep my SERO plan lol. So where can I get an international verison from? Also would I have to pay full price for it?
Does the photon has an active sim card in it? I'm assuming no. I've never used a dual-mode phone before (nor am I familiar with how they operate on different networks), so I dont know the ins-and-outs on how to get it activate for a GSM carrier.
Damn, now i have a headache just trying to figure out how it works to have an intl GSM phone on a network that is predominantly CDMA whom happens to offer a dual-mode phone on their network
Call sprint problem solved
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Chaos Residue said:
Just a side note, HSPA+ is not 4G. It's still 3G. LTE/WiMax is 4G.
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In 2010 the International Telecommunications Union redefined 4G to include HSPA+.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2374564,00.asp
thegameksk said:
I currently have a photon which has a sim card slot in it. So the Galaxy s international wont work on Sprint? Damn I want to keep my SERO plan lol. So where can I get an international verison from? Also would I have to pay full price for it?
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The SIM in the Photon is just for roaming. Sprint does not use SIM cards - even their LTE phones have them embedded rather than user-accessible.
As the Sprint Galaxy S III is not a 'global' phone - i.e. does not have both GSM/UMTS and CDMA radios - do not purchase it if you have any intention of using it outside the US. CDMA is no longer a global technology.
Confuses me a little that people spend so much on devices without checking what networks they support. Ho-hum.
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There are enough differences and enough participants. Verizon G2 BOARD
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big70tom said:
There are enough differences and enough participants. Verizon G2 BOARD
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Not really..... Pretty much any mod or rom will work on ANY varrient.
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Not really..... Pretty much any mod or rom will work on ANY varrient.
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it will? and how do you know?
But 2 are GSM and the other 2 are CDMA, so if a rom were to work on all then it'll need all apns/code for each phone in the rom. Just like how Hyperdrive and Axis Rom do on the Galaxy S3.
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Not really..... Pretty much any mod or rom will work on ANY varrient.
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This is a very ignorant statement to make. Verizon always has additional phone security (bootloader "enhancements"), CDMA and GSM technologies differ greatly and even the UI is programmed differently uniquely for carriers in many aspects. Verizon doesn't have the brightness or volume slider in the pulldown. An At&t systemui may work on Verizon device, but it'd likely break something else in the process.
I'm all for carrier specific boards.
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Not really..... Pretty much any mod or rom will work on ANY varrient.
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As long as there's CDMA hardware in the Verizon and Sprint models, this statement is inaccurate.
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I did not reply to that because you don't know how many times I wished it were true and I wanted that poster to live in the fantasy land as long as he could. Verizon where I'm at has the superior network by leaps and bounds, but there devices are ALMOST always slower to get advanced development.
Also physically the Verizon phone is thicker, buttons are smaller, and it has wireless charging. I believe the other 3 may differ slightly physically from each other as well.
Please separate boards
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Agreed, def need carrier specific -or at least break out ATT/others from VZ, as the phone hardware and stock software is different.
I don't get it, I keep setting people asking questions in here about international use when they obviously got it with no intention of ever using it on Verizon, what makes this phone so great that foreigners and even people on other us carriers get it instead of the s4 that's meant for them?
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Because they are crazy, cause we are locked down tighter then a baby pig sucking tit in the mourning b4 eating slop in a farm ..... Lucky I have mdk Im pretty pleased with this phone , but if I was them I would maybe buy the phone from a carrier with not such a locked down bootloader
hyperdrive powered s4
probably because verizon has one of the biggest customer base and best service whitch means more phones to be able to buy used on ebay and what not that is just what i think...and i think verizon enabled international on the note 2 and now s4 not sure about the n3 but not sure if other carriers have that option or if it is a gsm cdma difference.. or what or international carriers can only use vzw baseband
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I don't get it, I keep setting people asking questions in here about international use when they obviously got it with no intention of ever using it on Verizon, what makes this phone so great that foreigners and even people on other us carriers get it instead of the s4 that's meant for them?
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Verizon comes unlocked default and uses a cdma network + sim card
Which means it can be used on other cdma carriers around the world+gsm carriers
No other variants of gs4 can do this
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we are locked down tighter then a baby pig sucking tit in the mourning b4 eating slop in a farm
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michael3770 said:
Verizon comes unlocked default and uses a cdma network + sim card
Which means it can be used on other cdma carriers around the world+gsm carriers
No other variants of gs4 can do this
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Sounds reasonable, but I didn't know there were foreign CDMA carriers
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Will an unlocked AT&T g3 work on sprint? I know that the s5 unlocked from AT&T will work on sprint.
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Will an unlocked AT&T g3 work on sprint? I know that the s5 unlocked from AT&T will work on sprint.
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No - on both counts. Sprint is a CDMA network. No GSM phones - AT&T included - will work on Sprint.
Sprint uses an esn master list. If that phone isn't on it it can't be activated. (Only Sprint phones are on the list btw)
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rythis said:
Sprint uses an esn master list. If that phone isn't on it it can't be activated. (Only Sprint phones are on the list btw)
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Master list or not, a GSM phone will not work on a CDMA network
Lol. I'm ok with my unlimited data plan from sprint for my multi line. Thanks!
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There was a guy that unlocked his Sammy s5 on AT&T and brought it to sprint.
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manaup said:
There was a guy that unlocked his Sammy s5 on AT&T and brought it to sprint.
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I work at sprint and I can tell you right now, he either traded it for a sprint s5 or he didnt get sprint. NO GSM phone works on our network. The only exception is the Nexus 5. Thats it. Nexus 5 no more. no less.
I believe you. Now that i think about it, the guy seemed shady and not trust worthy..can any of the sprint phones unlock and go to GSM networks? I've heard that the Sammy s4 can do it.
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Can the s5 talk and use 3g at the same time? I know the sprint g3 can't do that.
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I believe you. Now that i think about it, the guy seemed shady and not trust worthy..can any of the sprint phones unlock and go to GSM networks? I've heard that the Sammy s4 can do it.
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Yes. LG G2 and G Flex, HTC One (m7) and One Max, Moto X, Galaxy S4, Note 3 (if Sprint processes the international unlock first), and iPhone 4s and 5 can all be unlocked for GSM use
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Yes. LG G2 and G Flex, HTC One (m7) and One Max, Moto X, Galaxy S4, Note 3 (if Sprint processes the international unlock first), and iPhone 4s and 5 can all be unlocked for GSM use
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And you are talking about factory unlocks that Sprint does for its customers or are you saying there is a way to unlock these Sprint variants for free?
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And you are talking about factory unlocks that Sprint does for its customers or are you saying there is a way to unlock these Sprint variants for free?
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The unlock that Sprint does is not a true factory unlock, since the phone can only be used in other countries if they do it. All of the above phones can be truly factory unlocked for use with any GSM carrier in the world, even in the US. I wouldn't say the iPhones are free, and it's not technically a factory unlock. But for all the Android models, yes. You just need to have the tools and the knowledge. I run my own business doing software support for smartphones and tablets, and Sprint unlocking is something that I do lots of.
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The unlock that Sprint does is not a true factory unlock, since the phone can only be used in other countries if they do it. All of the above phones can be truly factory unlocked for use with any GSM carrier in the world, even in the US. I wouldn't say the iPhones are free, and it's not technically a factory unlock. But for all the Android models, yes. You just need to have the tools and the knowledge. I run my own business doing software support for smartphones and tablets, and Sprint unlocking is something that I do lots of.
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do you know howw to unlock the g3 "ls990" version for sprint..
i would like to use with any worldwide network simcard.. could you help me?
zikario507 said:
do you know howw to unlock the g3 "ls990" version for sprint..
i would like to use with any worldwide network simcard.. could you help me?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3/general/unlock-sim-gsm-how-to-t2853594
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The unlock that Sprint does is not a true factory unlock, since the phone can only be used in other countries if they do it. All of the above phones can be truly factory unlocked for use with any GSM carrier in the world, even in the US. I wouldn't say the iPhones are free, and it's not technically a factory unlock. But for all the Android models, yes. You just need to have the tools and the knowledge. I run my own business doing software support for smartphones and tablets, and Sprint unlocking is something that I do lots of.
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ok.. but if you unlock for international carriers... whats happens with the functionality' get the famous +1 error?
zikario507 said:
ok.. but if you unlock for international carriers... whats happens with the functionality' get the famous +1 error?
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There is an easy way around that. I'm using an unlocked Sprint G3 right now and works fine
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There is an easy way around that. I'm using an unlocked Sprint G3 right now and works fine
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Sounds good.. What do you know about domestic unlock for this device?
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zikario507 said:
Sounds good.. What do you know about domestic unlock for this device?
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Everything. Mine is domestic unlocked.
How do you do that.. I read g3 ls990 unlock is just for international carrier.. But how do you get so domestic
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Thread closed as the question seems to be answered and so this doesn't go off topic.