As title.
Have a look at video.
Pressure marks on screen.
Second Z ultra thats doing this. First one I had right fun and games with a certain repairer.
Here it is. Do I live with it or send it back?
Thanks for your time ladies and gents.
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Hmmm, it's an LCD panel, so it'll do that if you give it a hard press (like your PC monitor and TV), but that's not normal, no. The Ultra's panel is so-called "zero gap", which means that the glass and LCD panel are fused together making it one piece, and not two. That's how they've made it so thin. The glass is also very thin (Dragontrail), so that combination will have some consequences. BUT this doesn't look normal. You're not even tapping hard, so that looks like a defect. I get it too if I press hard, and I mean really hard.
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Hmmm, it's an LCD panel, so it'll do that if you give it a hard press (like your PC monitor and TV), but that's not normal, no. The Ultra's panel is so-called "zero gap", which means that the glass and LCD panel are fused together making it one piece, and not two. That's how they've made it so thin. The glass is also very thin (Dragontrail), so that combination will have some consequences. BUT this doesn't look normal. You're not even tapping hard, so that looks like a defect. I get it too if I press hard, and I mean really hard.
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My first Ultra was like this but in a different place on the screen. But this one I only just got it out the box and it was doing it.
Getting a bit sick of it to be honest. I love the Z Ultra but I`m wondering if I`ll get a good one!
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My first Ultra was like this but in a different place on the screen. But this one I only just got it out the box and it was doing it.
Getting a bit sick of it to be honest. I love the Z Ultra but I`m wondering if I`ll get a good one!
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Yeah, that's understandable. I would probably have swapped it again if it's something you notice under regular usage, or just go with a different device altogether.
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Yeah, that's understandable. I would probably have swapped it again if it's something you notice under regular usage, or just go with a different device altogether.
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One more chance to get a good one. Real shame as the Ultra is a fantastic phone. If it wasn`t under warranty I would have stripped it and investigated for myself. Still, never mind.
Would like to hear from anyone else who has had a similar problem.
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One more chance to get a good one. Real shame as the Ultra is a fantastic phone. If it wasn`t under warranty I would have stripped it and investigated for myself. Still, never mind.
Would like to hear from anyone else who has had a similar problem.
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I had a look at both of mine the other day, one does this on the left side of the screen if I press too hard, the other doesn't seem to do it at all. A symptom of too thin glass/ts/panel and too big?
blueether said:
I had a look at both of mine the other day, one does this on the left side of the screen if I press too hard, the other doesn't seem to do it at all. A symptom of too thin glass/ts/panel and too big?
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I think so. But it shouldn`t happen. But then again, the technology was cutting edge. Maybe the Z2 Ultra won`t have these problems.
I have OCD and it really bothers me. Too picky I know but would like it right. I haven`t lost hope with Sony products at all, just think that with something cutting edge there will be flaws...
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Sometimes when I hold my tablet in a certain spot (usually right side) and let go... the backing makes some sort of clicking sound. The device doesn't feel flimsy to me, as other have complain... but that noise worries me.
Have others experience this clicking sound when holding their tablet?
Mine did this — it felt like the glue holding the backing in place was coming unstuck. I also found that if I pressed on the back, the pressure point showed on the screen and even engaged the touch sensor.
This along with other annoyances (screen shadow along bottom edge, a dead pixel, diagonal lines on screen and breaking of Firefox Sync by Sony Android OS) made me return it. I expect a $600 to be well-built and last at least 2 years and this glue unsticking spoke of shoddy design and a short product life.
My original Xoom cost the same and is still fully functional and unblemished. I was hoping the Xperia would be a worthy replacement, but it was a disappointment.
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Mine did this — it felt like the glue holding the backing in place was coming unstuck.
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That's exactly how I would describe it. I've been trying to find more information about this issue, but not many people have written about it. Do you think this issue is normal for all these tablets, or I got a defective one?
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That's exactly how I would describe it. I've been trying to find more information about this issue, but not many people have written about it. Do you think this issue is normal for all these tablets, or I got a defective one?
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Mine makes the same clicking sound. And I also have the "loose headphone flap". I'll ask for an exchange.
I have the same problem with mine. It feels like the glue is not holding well. Hopefully it can be easily fixed by SONY if it start to cause problems.
One more thing. When you press the loose place it makes screen go white, which worries me a little. No problem if you using case but still something like that shouldn't happen in high end device. Maybe it is thinnest tablet but it is not the strongest
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That's exactly how I would describe it. I've been trying to find more information about this issue, but not many people have written about it. Do you think this issue is normal for all these tablets, or I got a defective one?
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I think you got a defective one. If you have the patience to do the exchange-fix dance with Sony or whatever retailer you bought it from and like everything else about the tablet then you should.
If the just-announced Tegra 4 Toshiba Write hadn't caught my eye, I would probably had tried to exchange it to see if I could get a properly glued one, but that Toshiba is the same price, had a newer processor and is designed for my intended use-case (notetaking), so Sony's lose is Toshiba's gain at least in my case.
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I think you got a defective one. If you have the patience to do the exchange-fix dance with Sony or whatever retailer you bought it from and like everything else about the tablet then you should.
If the just-announced Tegra 4 Toshiba Write hadn't caught my eye, I would probably had tried to exchange it to see if I could get a properly glued one, but that Toshiba is the same price, had a newer processor and is designed for my intended use-case (notetaking), so Sony's lose is Toshiba's gain at least in my case.
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I got it from newegg, and I suspect they will be good about doing an exchange. That being said, I don't want to do an exchange if this problem is very common. So perhaps I should ask... has anyone NOT experience this issue?
The main reason why I got this instead of the nexus 10, was because of its waterproof nature. I want a tablet I can go to the gym with... and not having to worry about sweat/water was a huge selling point for me.
There's really no way of knowing how widespread the issue is without a proper survey of a representative sample of Xperia Tablet Z owners. People on forums tend to go there with problems they have so forums are full of people with problems Not a great sample.
Ultimately, all that you can realistically do is keep exchanging until you get one you like, or you or Newegg lose patience.
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Mine can flex slightly (which triggers recognition on the screen), but I have no clicking sounds or similar things - mine feels very solid and feels top-notch otherwise, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sony's quality control for Japanese units was tighter.
Same thing here SGP321 FROM DUBAI, seems like the glue between the back cover and whatever inside got unstuck...
My xperia tablet Z makes the clicking sound on both the bottom left and right, around the speaker area.
To me it sounds like the paper (or plastic) that is generally found in a (earplug) speaker.
Seeing that the slim design i think it is more then likely that we are pressing on the speaker of the tablet, and not so much the glue coming apart.
If it were the glue then it would most likely be at random places across the tablet. Seeing that we are all reporting the noise in the same general area, which also happens to be the place where the internal speakers are located, i feel that it is the speaker making the clicking (crackling) noise.
Hi look on youtube and search, Opening up Sony's Android Tablet, the Xperia Tablet Z (Teardown) you can see the back cover is stuck on with double sided tape.
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Hi look on youtube and search, Opening up Sony's Android Tablet, the Xperia Tablet Z (Teardown) you can see the back cover is stuck on with double sided tape.
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Here is a link to the video you mentioned.
Opening up Sony's Android Tablet, the Xperia Tablet Z (Teardown)
Cat McGowan said:
Here is a link to the video you mentioned.
Looks easy enough to pop off the back and add some additional tape or silicone adhesive, if you're so inclined.
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I have the same issue. I decided to give it a week or so before returning it to see how much I use it and if there are any other problems. I am nit-picky and the screen colours (greys and whites mainly) are just strange. Greys are red-ish while whites and yellowy, so a screen adjuster app doesn't help at all. Also I get a shadow right around my screen, it's really distracting on things like Falcon Pro in white. The sticky back is still happening and I also found out that I don't really like Android tablets. That, or they're just not ready for me yet. The 16:10 aspect ratio has no advantage to me, just disadvantages, and apps that I want to use just aren't good enough or they're non-existent.
So I'm returning it and waiting for the iPad mini 2. Sorry, but the Nexus 7 felt like a blown up experience of my phone rather than a shrunken down experience of a tablet.
Mister, here are people who use and like Android because of the openness and customizability.
If that isn't important to you, then you are anyway wrong here, and I wish you much fun with your Apple stuff.
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I have the same issue. I decided to give it a week or so before returning it to see how much I use it and if there are any other problems. I am nit-picky and the screen colours (greys and whites mainly) are just strange. Greys are red-ish while whites and yellowy, so a screen adjuster app doesn't help at all. Also I get a shadow right around my screen, it's really distracting on things like Falcon Pro in white.
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I agree with my colors being a little warm, but it's not extreme or bad (my desktop monitor is also set moderately warm). Probably unit variance. What I do have is the 'shadow' on the bottom border, but I'm not unaccustomed to backlight bleed or such. It doesn't bother me much either since usually the black Android system bar is there to begin with.
Sounds like Sony's quality control isn't very tight on international units...
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I agree with my colors being a little warm, but it's not extreme or bad (my desktop monitor is also set moderately warm). Probably unit variance. What I do have is the 'shadow' on the bottom border, but I'm not unaccustomed to backlight bleed or such. It doesn't bother me much either since usually the black Android system bar is there to begin with.
Sounds like Sony's quality control isn't very tight on international units...
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My monitors are every so slightly yellowy, but I was able to use that with a slight colour value change. It seems mine just has odd variables on different tones... quite a bit like my old Galaxy Nexus was like (Yellow whites, green greys and purple dark greys). That's actually why I really dislike AMOLED, so it's a bummer that this IPS panel isn't as accurate as I'd like.
And yeah, really doesn't like they're super tight on the international side. I didn't really want to bother with what could have been back and forth replacements.
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Mister, here are people who use and like Android because of the openness and customizability.
If that isn't important to you, then you are anyway wrong here, and I wish you much fun with your Apple stuff.
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Well look at that, I do actually use and like Android (it's the only mobile OS I use right now). It's just the tabs that aren't up to snuff for me. Openness and customisability is only a good thing if it actually helps make something more useful for me. I find those aspects very useful on my phone. I need to be quick and efficient and I can do that on an Android, but not really on an iPhone. A tablet serves a different purpose for me. It's a leisure/convenience device, I don't need any customisation for it to allow me to do anything faster. Also, my phone has a ton of apps and absolutely all of the ones I want, this Xperia tab doesn't, and definitely not all the apps I consider essential.
Sorry that I have different needs and wants than you, but I'm pretty sure that I'm not wrong in being here because 1) I own the tablet that's in question here and 2) I use Android as my only mobile OS right now and I'll still be using it on my phone for a long time. I wasn't trying to start some petty flame war here, I was just explaining my issues with this tablet and elaborating on why I'm returning it. So let's stay on topic here, huh?
If you're looking for a leisure device, wouldn't 16:10 be more ideal for movies? But I agree on the lack of proper tablet optimized apps. What exactly do you want to do on your tablet though?
If it's web browsing, I feel Android will always deliver a superior experience (I have long tired of constantly reloading tabs on the iPad 3). If it's gaming... well, no argument, iOS usually gets more games.
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If you're looking for a leisure device, wouldn't 16:10 be more ideal for movies? But I agree on the lack of proper tablet optimized apps. What exactly do you want to do on your tablet though?
If it's web browsing, I feel Android will always deliver a superior experience (I have long tired of constantly reloading tabs on the iPad 3). If it's gaming... well, no argument, iOS usually gets more games.
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Well I don't really watch much video away from my PC anyway, and I hardly ever watch any movies either. You've hit the nail on the head though, it's what I plan to do on it that makes the difference. I do a lot of social media stuff, reading, some browsing, games and a bit of video. Reading is far better on a 4:3 screen in portrait. I like 16:9 in portrait on my PC for reading, but trust me it's very different on a tablet. Also, I can't even get a half-decent way of using Facebook on the XTZ either. The official app is awful and Friendster which is supposed to be great is honestly rubbish.
Really it's just something to waste time on, read stuff on and be a convenient portable web browser. A 10" tablet isn't very convenient tbh and the Nexus 7 isn't either when it's so similar to my phone that's already in my pocket. An 8" 4:3 screen is a lot different from a 4.7" or 7" 16:10 screen. It's big enough to be something I want to use over my phone in some situations and small enough that it can travel most places quite easily.
It's just personal preference, it's been said a million times, but I think you already know that. Back on topic though.
@jerdog posted this video earlier. Anyone else notice this with either their Xperia ZU or their ZU GPE?
I checked mine and it seems to not be as bad as jerdog's . On mine it seems to only happen when I press one particular spot on the screen
WHY did you have to show me this? I just checked by opening a black image in Chrome, and it does happen in one spot if i push hard. Looks like a part of the LED "feels the pressure".
Edit: Oh, also, the Z Ultra uses a "zero gap" display, which means that the LCD panel and the glass is one part, so by pushing the glass down, we also push the LCD panel down.
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WHY did you have to show me this? I just checked by opening a black image in Chrome, and it does happen in one spot if i push hard. Looks like a part of the LED "feels the pressure".
Edit: Oh, also, the Z Ultra uses a "zero gap" display, which means that the LCD panel and the glass is one part, so by pushing the glass down, we also push the LCD panel down.
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Really Xperia Z Ultra uses "zero gap" display? Lg g2 has but never heard before for xzu.
techpal said:
Really Xperia Z Ultra uses "zero gap" display? Lg g2 has but never heard before for xzu.
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Yes, Sir. I read it somewhere on the Sony blog or whatever. You can easily see this yourself by holding your finger straight down on the screen while it's on. It'll look like you're touching the piuxels and not the glass (which looks to be really really thin)
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Yes, Sir. I read it somewhere on the Sony blog or whatever. You can easily see this yourself by holding your finger straight down on the screen while it's on. It'll look like you're touching the piuxels and not the glass (which looks to be really really thin)
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Thats nice to hearSame thing I experienced just now.
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Thats nice to hearSame thing I experienced just now.
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Yeah similar with mine. But it is more pronounced in the left and right of the screen about 2/3 from the bottom of the phone. Not a problem i guess.. But that just shows you how sensitive the display is and might need some extra care for not putting too much force on it.
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Yeah similar with mine. But it is more pronounced in the left and right of the screen about 2/3 from the bottom of the phone. Not a problem i guess.. But that just shows you how sensitive the display is and might need some extra care for not putting too much force on it.
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Yup, it doesn't surprise me, being an LCD display, but it's only noticeable if i press much harder than i'd usually press, so it won't even be noticeable under normal (human) usage.
Hey people!
I have had this Sony Xperia Z2 for about a week now and I'm happy about everything but the screen. When tilting the phone in decent lightning I can clearly see the grid in the shape of lines going vertically from the top to the bottom of the screen like you can see on the posted photo. I can also see the dots when the sun is shining but this is something that everybody is reporting so I'm not worried about that.
So my question is, do you also see this and as clear as I am?
Yes, you can sleep well, we have the same visible grid. This is a price for thinnes of display.
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cedropol said:
Yes, you can sleep well, we have the same visible grid. This is a price for thinnes of display.
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Haha, okay! Nice to here that I don't have an defect product.
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Haha, okay! Nice to here that I don't have an defect product.
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haha man don't worry i got these too on mines :$ i think its their technology will try to do a bit of research on it ^^
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haha man don't worry i got these too on mines :$ i think its their technology will try to do a bit of research on it ^^
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Okay, please write here if you find out something about this subject. I find it quite strange though that no reviewers even mentions this when I picked up on it instantaneously.
About their technology, I saw a video from sony where they showed the display and the things underneath the screen. At one point they showed like blue lights shaped like lines which probably are what we see when looking at the screen from an non straight angle.
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Okay, please write here if you find out something about this subject. I find it quite strange though that no reviewers even mentions this when I picked up on it instantaneously.
About their technology, I saw a video from sony where they showed the display and the things underneath the screen. At one point they showed like blue lights shaped like lines which probably are what we see when looking at the screen from an non straight angle.
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even my z1 had this i guess its the technology use in the screen ( ex. triluminos )
It's in all capacitive touch phones, but it vary from one to one on how easy to spot them depending on the screen and touch screen technology...
I had these in almost all my phones, Sony and non-Sony so don't worry...
In Xperia Z is the same.
My first phone had massively visible patterns on the screen and were clearly visible when the screen was off, I got my device replaced as it had gaps and over heating issues and the new device I received has nothing on it. Even the ones on display in the store had none. So i will put it down to a certain batch / manufacturing lot carrying these patterns.
PS: my first device was a W15 and the new one is a W19.
Can anyone post a picture with the digitizer visible in order to assess if this would be an issue?
Thanks.
I wonder if it has to do with how reflective the Z2 screen is. I've noticed that it's more reflective than most smartphone screens. It's not a huge deal to me, but I also think it's why some people complain about the outdoor performance. Ideally Sony will improve this in the future.
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Hey people!
I have had this Sony Xperia Z2 for about a week now and I'm happy about everything but the screen. When tilting the phone in decent lightning I can clearly see the grid in the shape of lines going vertically from the top to the bottom of the screen like you can see on the posted photo. I can also see the dots when the sun is shining but this is something that everybody is reporting so I'm not worried about that.
So my question is, do you also see this and as clear as I am?
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same with mine. thought its a defect. this is my 2nd phone since i changed my 1st phone because it has dead pixel. now i thought my 2nd phone has defect again
I woukd like to get a z3c but have seen numerous complaints that the screens and glass back panels on both the z3 and z3c are cracking for no apparant reason because the phones are too fragile.
Because of this I have started to consider the z5c. Can anyone confirm if the z5 series is also susceptible to the same issue or has the problem been addressed?
On another note, I cant say Im impressed with the amount of ads scattered all over the pages of this forum!
Thanks
Don't believe to everything. I mean, if i do something with my phone accidentally of corse i'll rant that it cracked by itself. And most of these rants were because of users did something. I had both z3c and now z5c and no sign of selfcracking of either glass, don't believe it'll crack just like that.
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Don't believe to everything. I mean, if i do something with my phone accidentally of corse i'll rant that it cracked by itself. And most of these rants were because of users did something. I had both z3c and now z5c and no sign of selfcracking of either glass, don't believe it'll crack just like that.
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Yes it will crack just like that. My z3c did. I had not want to believe it was possible, just like you, until it cracked as I was holding it in my hand typing on whatsapp. I hope my z5c won't do the same.
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Yes it will crack just like that. My z3c did. I had not want to believe it was possible, just like you, until it cracked as I was holding it in my hand typing on whatsapp. I hope my z5c won't do the same.
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Then i don't really know, why mine didn't crack adn it even fell on concrete few times? Did i have bot Z3C and Z5C like a Superman edition or am i missing something???
Regarding the " people say it broke by itself", of course there are always those who say "I didn't done nothing" when they break something, but compared to the other glass-back phones like the iPhone 4/4S and Nexus 4 there are waaaay more "it broke itself" reports about the Z3C. So I find it doubtful those are just rants.
From what I understood the issue is not that "glass is fragile", but that the Z3C has a design error - the glass is under constant pressure by the frame. So if the glass has any natural faults in it it will eventually crack - without any external cause.
Considering I just ordered my Z5C I really hope Sony fixed that particular issue. In either case, I also ordered vinyl back for mine, party because the back is really slippery, partly because that way I most likely won't even notice if the back is cracked (I hope at least).
Still, overall I would be happier if Sony transferred the person who insists on glass backs for their phone somewhere else where he cannot do much damage - maybe to their Betamax division - and used a fully polycarbonate hull like they did with the Z4 Tablet. GLass backs are and always will be a stupid form before function design decision.
i had so many phones made from glass and had zero problem with it. Just take care of your **** and you should be fine.
Yes mines has cracked only week old
Staggered how it could have happened not dropped and WHY would I slam it down on any surface?! Call into Vodafone tomorrow first thing. Cracked over corner right across camera.
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Then i don't really know, why mine didn't crack adn it even fell on concrete few times? Did i have bot Z3C and Z5C like a Superman edition or am i missing something???
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Why? Because of a simple thing called chance. Not all z3c phones spontaneously cracked. But a few of them did. You cannot control it. Nobody can. But it could still happen. Be glad it has not happened to you and be nice when someone says it happened to them, instead of not believing because it hasn't happened to you. It is as if you don't believe that someone can have a car crash because you have never had one.
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My z5 green version has already cracked...disappointed. My z3c was more durable
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My z5 green version has already cracked...disappointed. My z3c was more durable
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This is the reason why I like thick phones :|
Between my wife and I, we've had a z1c, z3c and z5c. Haven't had any cracking problems with any of them.
This sort of happened to my sister. She had the phone for a while without problem. I was sat in the car with her and saw it fall about half a foot onto the plastic divider between the driver and passenger seat. This cracked the screen. Although it was dropped it's perplexing that it broke as that's not the kind of fall where you'd expect the screen to break. It's been repaired but it's still a bit of a minor mystery how it managed to break from such a minor fall. We were pretty shocked it was broken being such a minor fall as to not induce a sense or panic or expectation of breakage.
It's possible that it's been strained before or age has taken its toll such as temperature variations.
Mysterious screen breaks can definitely happen. Someone should create an app that keeps track of knocks, bumps, pressure, etc.
Here's a light review of the phone from Clove:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbFeUoVyT9Q&feature=youtu.be
Preorders up today as well.
Unboxing vid. Looks like they went with a nicer packaging this time.
VS. an iPhone 6 vid
VS. the Z5 Compact vid
i have bought yesterday the white x compact. unfortunately its a bit larger than the z3c. well im a bit disappointed but not because of the sd 650. the performance is quite good. its definately responsive and quick for a compact. but the bezel on the bottom is bigger than at the top. looks like a design fail. vibration motor is veeery strange imo. at start you dont feel him when typing but the faster you type the more the motor is vibrating. this behavior is very hard to accept. maybe for some people a minor thing but for me when i got used to my z3c this not ok. the whole left side beside the display has a gap between display and frame. on the right side there is no gap. dust and dirt wil again find a nice place there. this was the reason why i have replaced my white z3c with a black one after the motherboard was dead on the white one. it seems sony has not learned from their mistakes. fingerprint button has also gaps and looks like a bit deplaced but works very well. on the back side there you have gaps on top and bottom. i really do not understand sony. this phone costs 450€ and it seems they have no QA before packaging. camerawise i can see some improvements. focus is much faster than z3c. but the camera quality nowhere comparable to a galaxy s7. its ok but not that i would say wow. front cam is better than z3c. no softskin blur effect more but when it gets dark the front cam is not very good. generally i was expecting more from sonys camera system.
the best thing at this phone is the display. the black values and color reproduction is very good. looks like amoled but is probably a very good ips. but i think its displaying to much red. adjusting whitebalance helps. generally much better than z3c. due to the 2D glass curves it seems that display is almost printed regardless the 720p.
but there is also somehting that is causing me headache with the display. it seems that due to the curved glas the letter "P" is sometimes not very responsive. especially if you are trying to hit the letter from the right side throught the curved area of the display. from top no prob but from the side its sometimes not reacting. tested with google keyboard.
loudspeakers are a bit louder probably due to the lack of water resistance. they sound better.
the phone goes back as i have got massively used to have root. i'm still on kitkat with root and xposed and several changes through xposed. loosing all this to a non perfect phone makes no sense for 450€.
the biggest problem is that there are no smartphones at 4,6inch with good quality anymore. i was even thinking about iphone but no thanks. i dont want to be a slave of itunes and pay more than 750€ for a phone. SE is too small. z5c is overheating, bulky & too rectangle. A3 2016 is 4,7inch and therefor longer. could be ok. BUT it has no fuc*** notification LED. major fail by samsung as this is inacceptable in 2016. but generally the build quality by samsung has raised. the galaxy s7 in a size of 4,6inch would be perfect. im remembering the times with my galaxy s1. fantastic phone and it was undestroyable. well if you have any questions you can ask me until i have still the phone. currently im thinking of testing an s7. but i hate to to do strange things with my thumb just to be able to reach the back button on the bottom of the phone. the s4 mini was perfect size.
So you are returning the phone?
I will give this phone a try but your build quality comments concern me. I should have it this week, so I'm hoping I get a good one. Does the plastic, glossy shell feel as cheap as it looks?
True, it's sad that these phones are the only game in the 4.6" size. I kinda don't consider the 4.6" iPhone in this size class because its just as big as a 5" screen phone because of the home button. I'm hoping Samsung comes out with an S7 mini which I would get in a heartbeat.
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So you are returning the phone?
I will give this phone a try but your build quality comments concern me. I should have it this week, so I'm hoping I get a good one. Does the plastic, glossy shell feel as cheap as it looks?
True, it's sad that these phones are the only game in the 4.6" size. I kinda don't consider the 4.6" iPhone in this size class because its just as big as a 5" screen phone because of the home button. I'm hoping Samsung comes out with an S7 mini which I would get in a heartbeat.
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try it. the plastic glossy shell is not the problem. its nice to look at, looks a bit like ceramic and not so slippery as i thought but the build quality is again not the best. i hate the unsymetric gaps between frame. they just cant place the display equally into the frame. on the black (which is not true black, its more dark blue) you wont see them so much as on the white one.
i was hoping for a s7mini but it seems that samsung has changed the mini series into the A3 line which is really sad unfortunately in the stores theres always the anti thief thing on the back which prevents to get true feeling of the normal S7. i need to test if a S7 would somehow be operational with one hand for me. but i dont think so. :/
the display of my z3c is peeling of on the top left edge which was the reason iw as looking for a different phone. i need to repair this. sony would need to much time for this.
x10isrooted said:
..vibration motor is veeery strange imo. at start you dont feel him when typing but the faster you type the more the motor is vibrating. this behavior is very hard to accept...
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i didn't realize that with swift key. but you are right. if you set to system vibration you have that issue. but me, i am using swift key where you can set you individual vibration duration and that works like a charm.
x10isrooted said:
the whole left side beside the display has a gap between display and frame. on the right side there is no gap...
fingerprint button has also gaps and looks like a bit deplaced...
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on my xxc the gaps are all the same size and nothing is deplaced.
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..but there is also somehting that is causing me headache with the display. it seems that due to the curved glas the letter "P" is sometimes not very responsive. especially if you are trying to hit the letter from the right side throught the curved area of the display. from top no prob but from the side its sometimes not reacting. tested with google keyboard.
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can't confirm that too.
the 'p' works just fine. (swift key)
x10isrooted said:
the phone goes back as i have got massively used to have root. i'm still on kitkat with root and xposed and several changes through xposed. loosing all this to a non perfect phone makes no sense for 450€.
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i hope, root is just a question of time. i hope very soon. can't wait for it to make all my customisations i am used to.
i found a way posted here but its written so weird. i dont know if its reliable.
http://www.sadroid.com/root-sony-xperia-x-compact-5-minutes/
the individual vibration is the same. the often and quicker you are pressing a button the more the motor of the vibrator gets crazy. sound like a bee on Speed.
You must try to press the letter p probably from the right side. a bit through the curved glass. the galaxy s7 and z3 compact touchscreen is much more responsive and sensitive. for me it was often not reacting when i was not thinking to touch more precisely in the middle of the letter P. maybe a defect on my device but i think the whole touchscreen production will be affected by this. i have tested the Xperia X and it has the same behavior. i will have to test another device in store if this is the case there as well.
this website is untrusted. dont download anything from that. you will get a virus. nothing else. when a root is availbale someone will for sure post it here first. but i doubt that it will be soon. x compact has not the best specs. all the famous and talented devs have other phones currently. xxz0o was the person that developed a root for z3c after half a year i think.
ok. now i found the issue with the vibration. your duration seems to be set pretty long. i set it to 35ms and that works absolutely fine. but if you set it to f.e. 60ms you have that issue. but why would you like to have it that long?
i mean its obvious that it can be a prob. if your next press is in the range of the 60ms there is no other way for the phone to vibrate permanently. are other phones adjusting the vibration if you press faster than the setted duration?
but i am a slow writer. maybe i will never understand that problem. i just found that issue while pressing complete randomly on the keyboard. i could never write that fast.
jeah, as i thaught. the page is very weird. i would also only try a root from a page i know pretty good.
ohh. half a year? thats sad. but hope never dies.
i like the phone. maybe there are some others
x10isrooted said:
try it. the plastic glossy shell is not the problem. its nice to look at, looks a bit like ceramic and not so slippery as i thought but the build quality is again not the best. i hate the unsymetric gaps between frame. they just cant place the display equally into the frame. on the black (which is not true black, its more dark blue) you wont see them so much as on the white one.
i was hoping for a s7mini but it seems that samsung has changed the mini series into the A3 line which is really sad unfortunately in the stores theres always the anti thief thing on the back which prevents to get true feeling of the normal S7. i need to test if a S7 would somehow be operational with one hand for me. but i dont think so. :/
the display of my z3c is peeling of on the top left edge which was the reason iw as looking for a different phone. i need to repair this. sony would need to much time for this.
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The S7 mini would be perfect, but it will never be created. The S7 is about the same size as the iPhone 6, so if any of your friends have one, just try using it and you'll quickly realize how much harder it is to reach the top of the phone with your thumb. I'm sticking with my Z3C for another year to see if anyone (not just Sony) releases a 4.5-4.7" flagship device. The XC just doesn't meet my expectations for an "upgrade".
Phone Arena review:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-X-Compact-Review_id4256
The AndroidCentral Review is up, one note the lack of a fingerprint scanner is US only, the rest of the world has the fingerprint scanner available!
http://m.androidcentral.com/sony-xperia-x-compact
All of these first reviews to be released seem to be very shallow in depth. They don't go into any real analysis of the phone and use very general statements to describe the user experience. In fact, these read more like unboxings than actual reviews. There's a lot of talk about what the phone looks like, the specs it comes with, and way too much of it sounds like they're reading a press release. If I was in the market for a new device. I'd wait another month for real reviews to be released.
Android Authority review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uullDQFq5W0
I sure do not have those build quality issues. gaps?! display is dead flush, heck everything is. I am very impressed with the build quality, very sturdy. I do not have trouble with coming in from the right and typing 'p' either, but if you display is not flush it would probably influence it. I am more than sure you were unlucky and got a bad apple (heh). as for the key vibration issue; if you type faster than the vibration delay is set, you are of cause going to have it vibrate all the time while typing, odd btw that you guys was set to 60ms mine was set to 25ms as default.
Hey everyone, just wanted some feedback regarding an issue I began having this week with my X Compact.
Issue: The phone is not as responsive during the unlocking process as it once was. I used to simply swipe to unlock and the phone would immediately unlock with a simple swiping motion. Now, the phone requires a harder swipe before it unlocks.
Any ideas?