Hi,
While I think my Gear Fit is a very useful device it constantly lets me down on the training side. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
I bike quite a bit and I like the way the Health app stores my map speed etc. the way it does. Once in a blue moon. The problem is that 9 times out of 10 the cycling app will shut down all on its own while I'm still in the middle of my training session. Hysterically irritating to have all these half-recorded sessions in my phone. And there's no way I can check on progress while cycling. To get to the Health app and then on to cycling on the Gear Fit would be sure death when speeding along at 35 kph. At least for someone as unbalanced as myself.
So am I doing something wrong? Is there a setting for the Gear Fit that I've missed? Is anyone else having this problem, or am I just stuck with a buggy example of the otherwise very nifty piece of engineering? Oh, and whoever designed the strap for the Fit must absolutely have had repeat business in mind! It's fallen off, like, 100 times of its own accord. A miracle that it's still in my possession.
Grateful for any advice on the "keep alive" topic.
Thanks/M
McHan said:
Hi,
While I think my Gear Fit is a very useful device it constantly lets me down on the training side. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
I bike quite a bit and I like the way the Health app stores my map speed etc. the way it does. Once in a blue moon. The problem is that 9 times out of 10 the cycling app will shut down all on its own while I'm still in the middle of my training session. Hysterically irritating to have all these half-recorded sessions in my phone. And there's no way I can check on progress while cycling. To get to the Health app and then on to cycling on the Gear Fit would be sure death when speeding along at 35 kph. At least for someone as unbalanced as myself.
So am I doing something wrong? Is there a setting for the Gear Fit that I've missed? Is anyone else having this problem, or am I just stuck with a buggy example of the otherwise very nifty piece of engineering? Oh, and whoever designed the strap for the Fit must absolutely have had repeat business in mind! It's fallen off, like, 100 times of its own accord. A miracle that it's still in my possession.
Grateful for any advice on the "keep alive" topic.
Thanks/M
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Same here, but I have missed all my bicyclings. But I have solved issue. Taking pulse (beat of heart) off then the training have gone OK. I am a male and have hairs on my wrist. I haven't tryed if I would keep Gear Fit like womens do, wrong way around. I mean the display is under wrist and where are not any hairs or you have to keep your strap tighter than now.
Newest version bring pause function to Gear Fit training, but I agree that better would be if I can myself start and stop the bicycling training. It could stop automatically if you stand too long in traffic signal; GPS signal stays too long same. If this is true, then the clock is dangerous incitementing to run a red lights.
The pulse off settings is here: biking/ scroll right one screen (on landscape mode)/ pulse: take off tag of pulse.
EmDzei said:
Same here, but I have missed all my bicyclings. But I have solved issue. Taking pulse (beat of heart) off then the training have gone OK. I am a male and have hairs on my wrist. I haven't tryed if I would keep Gear Fit like womens do, wrong way around. I mean the display is under wrist and where are not any hairs or you have to keep your strap tighter than now.
Newest version bring pause function to Gear Fit training, but I agree that better would be if I can myself start and stop the bicycling training. It could stop automatically if you stand too long in traffic signal; GPS signal stays too long same. If this is true, then the clock is dangerous incitementing to run a red lights.
The pulse off settings is here: biking/ scroll right one screen (on landscape mode)/ pulse: take off tag of pulse.
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Hi EmDzei and thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately this did not solve the problem for me. Turned off the heart-sensor and have now tried two biking sessions but the Gear device stops recording after 10 and 25 minutes respectively. Pretty much the same results as before. A real pain in the nether regions! Does no one else have this problem? I've noticed that the phone "pings" every now and again and I'm wondering if it momentarily loses BT contact with the watch and that this somehow stops the Health recording. It does this at night also when I have the blocking mode enabled (which irritates the H-ll out of my wife, the soft pinging, that is). Any thoughts on this...?
Thanks/M
McHan said:
Hi EmDzei and thanks for the reply.
Unfortunately this did not solve the problem for me. Turned off the heart-sensor and have now tried two biking sessions but the Gear device stops recording after 10 and 25 minutes respectively. Pretty much the same results as before. A real pain in the nether regions! Does no one else have this problem? I've noticed that the phone "pings" every now and again and I'm wondering if it momentarily loses BT contact with the watch and that this somehow stops the Health recording. It does this at night also when I have the blocking mode enabled (which irritates the H-ll out of my wife, the soft pinging, that is). Any thoughts on this...?
Thanks/M
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Have to notice here at start that I am not so specialist for this case. But I can give one or two hint.
This hint could hit forest with full speed. I don't know if the bluetooth and WLAN are on same chip. But on WLAN (= Wi-Fi) extra settings and its sleep mode there are three settings: always, only when connected and never (increase mobile data). Simple translations from finnish. =) I use this middle settings: allways, when device is connected. I wrote this hint because you wrote that your device seems disconnect 10 - 25 minutes. WLAN disconnecting time is similar: 15 minutes, if on sleep mode. As I said, this could be very very wrong information.
OK. Next our possible version differents. My Gear Fit firmware is R350XXU0BNE5. My Gear Fit Manager version is 1.67.0523 and I use it on my Samsung Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505) stock un-rooted firmware version UFNB9. Last five serial character of Gear Fit are LRXW. I do not use blocking mode on Gear Fit. I use it on my phone and disable sync at nights.
Today I tested and bicycled 26,52 km. I visited two times on markets and paused my "training". All session took 1:44 hour (so beautifull day and sunshine). Does your bicycling have Pause button when you started the trip? My previous version of this doesn't and with it I had problems with cutted bicycle trainings. My phone lay on own bicycle mounting holder, so the bluetooth signal is very stong and distance ~50 - 60 cm only.
Uh, last comments. You have of course made a Samsung account and it sync works OK? I think also that keeping LTE off when biking outside of the city fairway, if it is not strong signal. Good to try in this desperation, eh.
EmDzei said:
Have to notice here at start that I am not so specialist for this case. But I can give one or two hint.
This hint could hit forest with full speed. I don't know if the bluetooth and WLAN are on same chip. But on WLAN (= Wi-Fi) extra settings and its sleep mode there are three settings: always, only when connected and never (increase mobile data). Simple translations from finnish. =) I use this middle settings: allways, when device is connected. I wrote this hint because you wrote that your device seems disconnect 10 - 25 minutes. WLAN disconnecting time is similar: 15 minutes, if on sleep mode. As I said, this could be very very wrong information.
OK. Next our possible version differents. My Gear Fit firmware is R350XXU0BNE5. My Gear Fit Manager version is 1.67.0523 and I use it on my Samsung Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505) stock un-rooted firmware version UFNB9. Last five serial character of Gear Fit are LRXW. I do not use blocking mode on Gear Fit. I use it on my phone and disable sync at nights.
Today I tested and bicycled 26,52 km. I visited two times on markets and paused my "training". All session took 1:44 hour (so beautifull day and sunshine). Does your bicycling have Pause button when you started the trip? My previous version of this doesn't and with it I had problems with cutted bicycle trainings. My phone lay on own bicycle mounting holder, so the bluetooth signal is very stong and distance ~50 - 60 cm only.
Uh, last comments. You have of course made a Samsung account and it sync works OK? I think also that keeping LTE off when biking outside of the city fairway, if it is not strong signal. Good to try in this desperation, eh.
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A-HA! I think You hit on the solution to the problem in Your very last comment. I've been trying various combinations of settings on both the Gear Fit and on the phone, but to no avail. Then finally it struck me that, yes! I have been experiencing issues when shifting between LTE and other modes, and that possibly possibly this could have something to do with my problems. And so, sure enough, when I blocked off 4G and went for my daily today I finally got the whole ride recorded in the phone!
So many thanks for putting me on this track and fining the solution for me, EmDzei!
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Guys,
Quick question.
Is there a setting somewhere that allows the gear fit to NOT end the workout if stationary (or bad GPS) after a preset time?
Scenario:
Whenever I am cycling, I inevitably come across traffic lights and have to stop, after some time (normally once I get going again) the gear fit will display a message "No movement detected, workout stopped" or something along those lines.
If I acknowledge the message, then its ok, workout continues until the next stop, but if I don't notice it, and sometimes I don't feel the vibration when cycling, then eventually the workout will stop all together, and I only find out next time I check the device.
This is very frustrating, surely I don't have to keep checking the device to see if it thinks the workout is stopped, very dangerous when cycling.
So currently yes I have to periodically check to make sure it is still recording, if I just leave it, guaranteed it will stop recording without me telling it to.
Anyone else experience this when cycling?
Otherwise great device!
further to this..
yesterday on my ride home I got the "workout stopped" message when I had been moving for at least 3-4 minutes.
so not sure how it is calculating movement or what the threshold is.
luckily i noticed and acknowledged the message and the workout continued.
still very annoying.
surely someone else has experienced this, or am I the only one using the gear fit for cycling?
If i initiate the cycling workout from the app on the S5, it does not record heart rate, even though the device is paired.
Yes, I have found this as well, and annoyed me too. You could go for a 4 hr ride, and it's stopped after 20 minutes haha.
THAT would be annoying!
This is problem for the newest firmware i think, bcoz early i don't have this problem...
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Yes, I have found this as well, and annoyed me too. You could go for a 4 hr ride, and it's stopped after 20 minutes haha.
THAT would be annoying!
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Yeap absolutely rubbish!
I am yet to accurately record a workout and I have had the thing for nearly a week.
Tempted to take it back just doesn't do anything it is supposed to do, except send notifications that seems to be the only thing working properly.
I have same problem too. Samsung need to fix this soon with firmware update. Otherwise it will be a great product.
I suffer from the same problem. Anoying..... And if you track from the S Health app have you notice that the distance is way off from what the bike computer measures??? 4 riders, 4 bike computers from Sigma, all measured the same, S Health reported 2,5km LESS.......
I was really fed up with Gear Fit and I've just return it to the seller.
I think i'm going to wait for better devices (or an important upgrade)
I bought it because notifications and tracking options, but it was disconnecting all the time from the cellphone.
Bye bye gearfit!
The movement detector really sucks in this watch. The other day the pedometer prompt came on congratulating me on reaching my daily steps goal. The problem is that it was early morning and I did not go anywhere to reach the 10,000 step goal. Then it occured to me, it must of picked up the movement of me rubbing one out...
October Edition just arrived, 6 months late, but it did arrive and it did work (albeit with the additional Cradle not in the box)
Charged, set up email to send myself the Google Play apk; double clicked it and everything worked fine. Activated my Android and all working well.
Downloaded some apps, inc spotify and mapmyrun. Added a sim card and sd card - not well designed really. The galaxy s5 shows how simple it is to do and retain waterproofing. The Omate, with tiny fiddly screws, rubber bits, non symetrical cover etc was something I hope not to have to do again; which renders my spare battery a bit pointless. I was expecting to pop off the back and swap a drained battery for a charged one, as I can do on a mobile.
However, with battery at 67% went for a 1 hour run and with GPS, Wifi, Data and Bluetooth active (music to BT Headphones and running data being tracked) battery only went down 20% - impressive! and confirmed I can give up the GPS watch...
All good, but definitely some sticking points. Wifi at one point wouldn't re-activate, without a long reboot. The keyboard can drive you insane, especially entering masked passwords - the keyboard can be supersensitive and fire off several characters at once by accident, so you have to start again. The 'show passwords' option doesn't always work.
The navigation seems awkward and inconsistent - i wish there was a back button, the swipe left often triggers an option or menu unintentionally so you have to go back twice and when the same thing happens again, it's not long before you give up and press the home button...
Maybe it's just some getting used to - day 1 and all that!
Overall this is an incredible piece of tech and will be a big benefit to my lifestyle. It requires a change of thinking I suspect, but one that is welcome, so overall I am very pleased with the first impression.
I think the answer to your question about whether you have day 1 frustrations is: yes and no.
I put on Lokifish's latest ROM and did a few other tweaks (principally Daniel Ortiz's recommended GPS fix) and then started from there. I played with the out-of-the-box version for a total of two minutes before I became monumentally frustrated with the sensitivity of the touch screen, and the keyboard seemed to trigger letters even when I was just hovering over the screen trying to make a more accurate 'tap'. Maybe it was placebo effect but the Lokifish ROM seemed to be better calibrated, though I still avoid using the keyboard for anything other than tapping in passwords to get accounts setup.
The first app that gave me an inkling that the TS is a 'keeper' is Runkeeper. (pun!) I'm actually not so much of a runner, but I use Runkeeper on my main device to track my cycling and I log my circuit and swim training data on the web which integrates across the other apps I use to collect and manage fitness data (Withings Body Analyzer, Myfitnesspal, Fitbit). The thought of being able to dispense with multiple tracking apps/devices and perhaps even leaving the big phone at home (the Z1s doesn't have the brightest screen anyway) was one of the main draws of the TrueSmart. But the real 'killer app' feature for me was the ability to use this TrueSmart as an 'all day wearer' *and* have it work in-water to capture swim data. But After six months of waiting (like you) and seeing the not-really-waterproof drama unfold, I was pretty much ready to put this thing on eBay on day 0.
However, Runkeeper/Ride with GPS plus Cyril Preiss' "SWApps" has just about sold me on keeping the device, or at least rekindled my interest enough to see whether its worth pursuing some form of aftermarket waterproofing approach. (currently being hashed out in another thread here)
So in essence I concur with/confirm your findings. I still haven't found out how to get the auto-correct to behave on the keyboard, but I think that's as much about taking a grand-daddy step back to understand how the Fleksy is designed, and how to properly inflect the gestures to keep things from getting out-of-hand (pun!). I remember having *some* of the same trouble when going from the iPhone 4s to the Xperia Z1 (before the Z1s) and that keyboard drove me kuh-ray-zee until I figured out the whole swipe-your-finger-to-spell-the-word thing worked. Then suddenly I wondered how anyone would type on one of these things any other way.
So - I'm coming around to seeing the advantages of the TrueSmart, and more to the point *really* understanding why Lokifish, Cyril, Kurt, Daniel and so many others here see in the platform - and continue to invest time and effort into it.
Oh - and as to the battery drain, I just ran my TS down to 15% and then connected it to a Waka Waka to charge, and while I didn't have it timed it's already back to 100%. Solar powered smartwatch - now we're talkin'. So instead of thinking about a snap-in/out solution for the battery I'm looking at/for a 'gator glip' charger cable or some other light-weight charger connection for the TS (I thought I saw them online somewhere, and OMate was offering them at first - I'd prefer that to the case for workout/outdoor activities where space is a premium). I'm also looking into how to/whether I can set up profiles that are more like "give me what you got" versus "all-day wearer" mode. On the Sony Xperia Z1s there's a "Stamina Mode" which tamps down on battery drain, but can also kill functionality of apps that are not in the foreground (bad news for Panobike cycling cadence meter, etc) so while I have *some* apps exempted from Stamina Mode, when I'm doing a dedicated outing I just switch it off completely - knowing that I'm going to be putting the device on charge by either using one of the portable packs I'm carrying with me - or when I get back to the car.
Anyway, food for thought...
Thanks for the reply, it's good to share tips and tricks!
I saw that Loki has actually abandoned TrueSmart. Frustrations with their updates and lack of support I think.
Primarily for me this watch was a replacement sports tracker, but my hopes for an all-purpose watch are not looking good as the blue-tooth tethering is not working with my S5; it pairs successfully, but doesn't connect, so the TrueSmart Master app is useless.
The TS also doesn't connect to my BT headset for voice, but it did connect with the JayBird headphones (although the cutting out was super irritating).
In Summary - BlueTooth not reliable and will be a deal-breaker as I would have to carry my phone anyway.
Couple with the infuriating keyboard and inconsistent navigation, (I've now tried the LMT dial thing, which also doesn't work properly) I'm losing interest fast - which is a shame as it could be so good.
For charging, my GPS watch uses a clip as you describe. So much better than the cradle which renders the watch inaccessible while it's charging. But why not a simple USB port with a cover, like the S5....(a proper waterproof phone). Even the solar charger will then require carrying two separate items for the TS...
You can set up profiles on an app called Easy Battery Saver - I used it on my last phone and installed it for TS. It works as described and easy to activate/de-activate.
I will keep with the TS a while longer, but I suspect the next Galaxy Gear, which is rumoured to be stand-alone, will be what we are really looking for...
Hope to hear more from you - I will post my next findings on the TS too.
lphovercraft said:
I think the answer to your question about whether you have day 1 frustrations is: yes and no.
I put on Lokifish's latest ROM and did a few other tweaks (principally Daniel Ortiz's recommended GPS fix) and then started from there. I played with the out-of-the-box version for a total of two minutes before I became monumentally frustrated with the sensitivity of the touch screen, and the keyboard seemed to trigger letters even when I was just hovering over the screen trying to make a more accurate 'tap'. Maybe it was placebo effect but the Lokifish ROM seemed to be better calibrated, though I still avoid using the keyboard for anything other than tapping in passwords to get accounts setup.
The first app that gave me an inkling that the TS is a 'keeper' is Runkeeper. (pun!) I'm actually not so much of a runner, but I use Runkeeper on my main device to track my cycling and I log my circuit and swim training data on the web which integrates across the other apps I use to collect and manage fitness data (Withings Body Analyzer, Myfitnesspal, Fitbit). The thought of being able to dispense with multiple tracking apps/devices and perhaps even leaving the big phone at home (the Z1s doesn't have the brightest screen anyway) was one of the main draws of the TrueSmart. But the real 'killer app' feature for me was the ability to use this TrueSmart as an 'all day wearer' *and* have it work in-water to capture swim data. But After six months of waiting (like you) and seeing the not-really-waterproof drama unfold, I was pretty much ready to put this thing on eBay on day 0.
However, Runkeeper/Ride with GPS plus Cyril Preiss' "SWApps" has just about sold me on keeping the device, or at least rekindled my interest enough to see whether its worth pursuing some form of aftermarket waterproofing approach. (currently being hashed out in another thread here)
So in essence I concur with/confirm your findings. I still haven't found out how to get the auto-correct to behave on the keyboard, but I think that's as much about taking a grand-daddy step back to understand how the Fleksy is designed, and how to properly inflect the gestures to keep things from getting out-of-hand (pun!). I remember having *some* of the same trouble when going from the iPhone 4s to the Xperia Z1 (before the Z1s) and that keyboard drove me kuh-ray-zee until I figured out the whole swipe-your-finger-to-spell-the-word thing worked. Then suddenly I wondered how anyone would type on one of these things any other way.
So - I'm coming around to seeing the advantages of the TrueSmart, and more to the point *really* understanding why Lokifish, Cyril, Kurt, Daniel and so many others here see in the platform - and continue to invest time and effort into it.
Oh - and as to the battery drain, I just ran my TS down to 15% and then connected it to a Waka Waka to charge, and while I didn't have it timed it's already back to 100%. Solar powered smartwatch - now we're talkin'. So instead of thinking about a snap-in/out solution for the battery I'm looking at/for a 'gator glip' charger cable or some other light-weight charger connection for the TS (I thought I saw them online somewhere, and OMate was offering them at first - I'd prefer that to the case for workout/outdoor activities where space is a premium). I'm also looking into how to/whether I can set up profiles that are more like "give me what you got" versus "all-day wearer" mode. On the Sony Xperia Z1s there's a "Stamina Mode" which tamps down on battery drain, but can also kill functionality of apps that are not in the foreground (bad news for Panobike cycling cadence meter, etc) so while I have *some* apps exempted from Stamina Mode, when I'm doing a dedicated outing I just switch it off completely - knowing that I'm going to be putting the device on charge by either using one of the portable packs I'm carrying with me - or when I get back to the car.
Anyway, food for thought...
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More success with BT pairing
More success today - got the bt headset (MyVoice 312) paired for calls, plus the jabra sport wireless+ bt headphones for music.... both devices paired and switch automatically when powering on and off.
Galaxy S5 also paired, but no joy with the SWAPPS app. I will keep trying with that, but it's actually a low priority since I have a sim for the TS ($10 per month for second sim with same number as primary sim)
Tonight I hope to try the Endomondo app on the TS paired with the Jabras, since they have a special feature that gives realtime data from the app when pushing a button on the headphones.
I can see it's going to take a while with the TS, but the tech is really good and offers a lot of promise. It's all about expectations I guess.
If the BT goes all intermittent again tonight I will be v disappointed as this is a basic but critical feature.
One problem I have had after exercising is that if you hand/fingers are sweaty then the TS goes nuts when you touch the screen - there really needs a sensitivity option (like on the S5)
Any pointers for best option for gaining Root Access to Omate TS? I notice that you have flashed Loki's 'latest' ROM, so presumably you have Rooted and flashed a Custom Recovery??
Best way to proceed--I would be grateful for a 'Heads-Up'.
BTW--I have, today, just received my October Dev Edition 1 GB 8 Gb 2100 Mhz version--and am looking at flashing Loki's ROM 20140328--is that the one to which you are referring?? or, do you have a different device version?
Any pointers--gratefully received.
I can't help you with the technical nuts and bolts as I am going to keep it all simple and hopefully working. No ROM flashes, install PlayStore and get your BT headset working.
Just that alone gives you a mobile on your wrist which is pretty damn cool for checking email, facebook, text, whatsapp and voice calls. Plus spotify, endomondo and maps!
The keyboard is a problem though, being so sensitive. And if it's raining, forget using it at all - not because of the water resistance, but because the screen just goes crazy with the water drops.
I am going to try Google Search/Voice to see if I can use voice commands on it.
Anyone else had luck with using voice?
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Any pointers for best option for gaining Root Access to Omate TS? I notice that you have flashed Loki's 'latest' ROM, so presumably you have Rooted and flashed a Custom Recovery??
Best way to proceed--I would be grateful for a 'Heads-Up'.
BTW--I have, today, just received my October Dev Edition 1 GB 8 Gb 2100 Mhz version--and am looking at flashing Loki's ROM 20140328--is that the one to which you are referring?? or, do you have a different device version?
Any pointers--gratefully received.
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Hey guys, I'm like a dev October backer and I get my watch this week-end. I have just started it today and after reading the lokifish topic I don't think it is a good idea for us to use our watches until we flashed a ROM with a secure kernel (the kernel of the 1/8/2100 is unsecure).
If you want to root your TS there is tons of solutions as it i a mediatek chip.
Can you recommend me a BT Headphone to par with my TS.
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Can you recommend me a BT Headphone to par with my TS.
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I'm using Backbeat Go 2 with my TS, I love the "minimalistic" approach to it. When not used I wear them like a necklace (you can attach the earbuds to eachother) and it's not in the way the slightest. It works great for taking phone calls, and I've tried it with both walking, biking and running with no issues. Volume controls, checking battery level, taking calls and such works great from the remote. Battery life is ok:ish, maybe a bit more than 3 hours total listening time. That is if you play music or talk on the phone non-stop, with moderate use (taking a few phonecalls during the day and similar) they last for days.
From what I hear the Backbeat Go 2 is more or less a ripoff of Jaybird Bluebuds X headphone (looks very similar), but the Jaybirds have better battery life, fits more securely in your ear for sporting and such - not that I ever had issues with that. The main thing that made me go with the Backbeat though is that it's about half the price.
Ok thanks. I'm gonna give a look to this.
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Blue-rayer said:
Can you recommend me a BT Headphone to par with my TS.
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After going through two Backbeats (not the Go, think it was 903 or something similar) I can state they are useless for exercising with, no resistance to water or sweat.
I then tried a pair of Philips SHB6017/10 and lasted a month before starting to randomly calling strange numbers due to shorting out. I'm not a sweaty person, honest!
Finally settled on Jabra Sport and they're awesome, have been using them for a year now.
Thanks to Amazon who refunded and replaced every single failed headphone, even sending out the replacements before I'd sent in the dead ones.
Cheers,
Andreas
I was actually playing around with the voice commands, you do have to setup loads of Google Apps, like Google search and Maps etc and give it permission to everything but it does work... I highly recommend using Nova launcher as it places the Mic search option right on the home screen.... which launches Google search... "Ok Google" and you're off.... I'm not sure how to get it to recognise OK Google without first having started the search app... Anyway some of my favourite things to ask for....
Take me home.... (Starts maps navigation)
Play some music (starts Google music and tries to play music)
Order Pizza (finds the nearest dominos)
What is iPhone (reads out definition of an iphone)
I bought the Moto 360 Sport (which is essentially the v2 in a fixed band and GPS onboard) because I like fitness/smart watches - and prefer to not have to carry my phone if possible.
Pros:
GPS tracking
Can play music from watch to BT headphones
Heart Rate/Pedometer/Barometer/Android Wear
Very comfortable
Battery life is a solid day with moderate use and about 1 hour GPS tracked running
Cons:
BT range is poor
Constantly disconnects from phone
Music breaks up while hand is moving
Actions from watch to phone fail quite a lot
Cannot track general fitness activities (e.g. weight lifting)
Should be fully waterproof
What happens if the strap breaks?
Initially contacted Motorolla thinking I had a faulty unit - but have since read more and more reviews of a similar nature to mine. They did say I could send it back for service, but to be honest, I think it's going to be on all of them.
I have realised that I wear my watch on my left wrist and my phone usually goes in my right pocket. If I take the watch off, the BT connection is great. If I listen to music with the watch on the table - it has no problems and the range is huge. Put the watch back on my wrist and it breaks up again. That must be the flaw?
Contacted Motorolla again to raise these points more specifically and have been told they will raise with the responsible department and let me know the best solution for me.
Thought I'd create the thread in case others are experiencing the same issues - or if anyone has any suggestions/additional issues. Anyway, will post an update when I have one.
UPDATE from Motorolla:
If the watch strap is damaged, it would need to be sent for repair. Unfortunately it is not possible to replace the strap yourself on the Moto 360 Sport.
For the bluetooth connectivity issues, please follow these instructions:
- Uninstall the Android Wear app and un-pair all devices that are paired with your phone.
- Turn Bluetooth off on your phone.
- From manage apps on your phone, select “Bluetooth Share”
- Tap “Force stop” then “OK”
- Tap “Clear data” then “Ok”
- Power cycle the phone by turning it completely off and then back on.
- Perform a factory data reset on the Moto 360 by going to Settings > Reset.
- Re-install the Android Wear app and connect with the Moto 360 again.
- Wait until the Moto 360 has finished syncing apps. Transfer music back to the watch again via Google Play Music, pair your wireless headphones with the watch and test it again.
Note that bluetooth devices may disconnect or create noise when their batteries are low so ensure that the watch and all other Bluetooth devices are fully charged.
If you are using the device indoors, other wireless equipment such as Wi-Fi, cordless phones, or baby monitors, that operate on the 2.4 Ghz frequency may cause interference, and contribute to a dropped connection.
If you are using the device outdoors, the Bluetooth signal may be affected by the environmental conditions.
Keep metal objects, such as keys or coins, away from all Bluetooth devices to avoid interference.
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I have a Moto 360 v2 and I continuous connection problems with Bt and service "ok google" not available. The notifications seem to arrive, but when I want to respond vocally to a message, many times not working.
The problem is Android Wear or Motorola?
For billysa: removing moto connect from your phone will likely fix the ok google disconnect problem, it did for me.
Hi
I have one and what I would like to check better is the GPS accuracy. the rest of the things you speak about I have no problem. (I have some problems with the sound of the music where I am running and I put my hands down to stretch. But it only happens a couple of times... )
but the reason I bought the Moto 360 Sport is because the GPS and I do not get the same results as with the mobile
examples of this week in some routes with a lot of slopes:
Monday/Wednesday: same route
Monday: mobile with endomondo 8km 44
watch with moto body running 8km 69
Wednesday: mobile with endomondo 8km 42
watch with endomondo 8km 53
Thursday: mobile with endomondo 6,01 km
mobile with moto body 6,26 km
the mobile tracks the routes properly but the wacht does some little bends now and then, they are very little but enough to see that is the wacth which is doing it bad
I am going to do more tests in a flat route, looking more apps (perhaps ghorstraer could work) and I gonna compare it againts a friend's good garmin forerunner in order to get further information
have you had this kind of problems with the GPS???
regards.
billysa said:
I have a Moto 360 v2 and I continuous connection problems with Bt and service "ok google" not available. The notifications seem to arrive, but when I want to respond vocally to a message, many times not working.
The problem is Android Wear or Motorola?
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I had this issue to begin with. First time I contacted Motorolla, they said to factory reset the watch and start again. I did that and it didn't work. However, I then installed Moto Connect & Body on the phone (as well as Android Wear) - all of a sudden it became more reliable with the vocal commands. In fact, when in range of the phone, it works every time now.
As Delano.88 had the opposite effect to get it working, could just be a couple of uninstall/reinstalls is what it needs.
iruizeguilaz said:
Hi
I have one and what I would like to check better is the GPS accuracy. the rest of the things you speak about I have no problem. (I have some problems with the sound of the music where I am running and I put my hands down to stretch. But it only happens a couple of times... )
but the reason I bought the Moto 360 Sport is because the GPS and I do not get the same results as with the mobile
examples of this week in some routes with a lot of slopes:
Monday/Wednesday: same route
Monday: mobile with endomondo 8km 44
watch with moto body running 8km 69
Wednesday: mobile with endomondo 8km 42
watch with endomondo 8km 53
Thursday: mobile with endomondo 6,01 km
mobile with moto body 6,26 km
the mobile tracks the routes properly but the wacht does some little bends now and then, they are very little but enough to see that is the wacth which is doing it bad
I am going to do more tests in a flat route, looking more apps (perhaps ghorstraer could work) and I gonna compare it againts a friend's good garmin forerunner in order to get further information
have you had this kind of problems with the GPS???
regards.
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I have noticed the same as you, yes. Been using RunKeeper on mine - when I look at the map, on the website, it's clear that the GPS is taking an age to lock on. It's a good minute before the run starts - but the route looks pretty ok. I can't see a way to determine when GPS is locked.
I see the bends too - but for me, they aren't that bad.
Good test comparisons you've got there - let me know if you find a good one! I'll just stick to RunKeeper for now - got friends on it and we compete for distance/calories done.
Edit: Actually - just had a closer look at the map and can see the route is way off! Read this review today http://www.wareable.com/android-wear/moto-360-sport-review ...it says third party apps aren't as good as the built in moto app, so I'll give that a bash today.
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Edit: Actually - just had a closer look at the map and can see the route is way off! Read this review today ...it says third party apps aren't as good as the built in moto app, so I'll give that a bash today.
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I agree with that review that the moto body running app is able to get faster (very fast actually) the gps. Endomndo takes more time to do so. and the endomondo is not able to use the watch's heart rate while moto body running do it properly. but In my case the deviate of the distance does not come from the begining, on the contrary is constant during all the route, each km the wacth do a litle bit more... with motorola running 30-40 meters per km
Besides, in my tests I foond the motorola's app less accurate than endomondo app as I wrote down in the previous post. the reviews says 'the 360 Sport was always within 100m on distances over 8km' but in my case the difference is almost 300 meters with the motorla app and only 100 with the endomondo. I wanna point out that my routes were with a lot of slopes and this could be the problem because:
at the same route:
mobile with endomondo 8,42 km Total ascent 141 meters
watch with endomondo 8,53 km Total ascent 51 meters
motorola body running does not show me this information
Thanks for the answers.
I'm testing the Moto 360 without Moto Connect and above without using the Theater Mode. For now I have seen an improvement (not always working), but it is always very slow to recover connection Bt. When the clock loses its connection freezes for a few seconds, this happens to you?
billysa said:
Thanks for the answers.
I'm testing the Moto 360 without Moto Connect and above without using the Theater Mode. For now I have seen an improvement (not always working), but it is always very slow to recover connection Bt. When the clock loses its connection freezes for a few seconds, this happens to you?
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I'm not seeing that, but what I have noticed is when I use any watch face, other than a built in moto face, the connection is very unreliable and the watch crashed more. Which is no good when we're supposed to be able to customise the faces. I put up with the standard faces now.
For what it's worth, BT transmits very poorly through the human body from my experiences. If the two devices are on opposite sides of your body transmission may be temperamental.
One of my original BT headsets had an antenna that was placed in such a way that my body sat between it and my phone. When I walked outside in open areas my music would often breakup.
When you're inside this isn't much of an issues as there are plenty of surfaces (walls, doors, tables, windows) for the signal to bounce around. But in a wide open space there isn't much reflected signal to get around your body.
It might be interesting to try swapping your watch to your opposite arm during and run and see if that makes a difference.
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For what it's worth, BT transmits very poorly through the human body from my experiences. If the two devices are on opposite sides of your body transmission may be temperamental.
One of my original BT headsets had an antenna that was placed in such a way that my body sat between it and my phone. When I walked outside in open areas my music would often breakup.
When you're inside this isn't much of an issues as there are plenty of surfaces (walls, doors, tables, windows) for the signal to bounce around. But in a wide open space there isn't much reflected signal to get around your body.
It might be interesting to try swapping your watch to your opposite arm during and run and see if that makes a difference.
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100% get where you're coming from. I actually have to do that when I go out running (but I shouldn't have to for the price tag of these watches). The reason it gets me so much is - I had a Microsoft Band V1 and the BT range on that was incredible. Couldn't listen to music, I know that, but it was so good that when I was walking down the drive and the phone is charging in the kitchen - it would buzz me as I approached the house with notifications from the phone. This watch barely even knows the phone is in the same room, in my experience.
It's disappointing that if my phone or headphones are on my right side and my watch is on my left wrist, there's a struggle.
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100% get where you're coming from. I actually have to do that when I go out running (but I shouldn't have to for the price tag of these watches). The reason it gets me so much is - I had a Microsoft Band V1 and the BT range on that was incredible. Couldn't listen to music, I know that, but it was so good that when I was walking down the drive and the phone is charging in the kitchen - it would buzz me as I approached the house with notifications from the phone. This watch barely even knows the phone is in the same room, in my experience.
It's disappointing that if my phone or headphones are on my right side and my watch is on my left wrist, there's a struggle.
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FWIW, I've found the range on my 360 46mm to be quite on par with other BT devices I'd. I dunno is the sport has different placement of antenna or different materials around it that are blocking the signal perhaps??
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FWIW, I've found the range on my 360 46mm to be quite on par with other BT devices I'd. I dunno is the sport has different placement of antenna or different materials around it that are blocking the signal perhaps??
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Could be - maybe adding the GPS receiver has caused a problem...
Regarding the Bluetooth choppy playback I am not sure if it is Android Wear (software) related. Today I almost could not listen to music and putting my hands in my pockets almost broke playback. But as a test I changed the watch hand (from right to left) and I had no more issues with playback over Bluetooth. Can someone test if this helps?
Also to mention that Bluetooth choppyness happens only while tracking and outdoors.
JimmyKane9 said:
Regarding the Bluetooth choppy playback I am not sure if it is Android Wear (software) related. Today I almost could not listen to music and putting my hands in my pockets almost broke playback. But as a test I changed the watch hand (from right to left) and I had no more issues with playback over Bluetooth. Can someone test if this helps?
Also to mention that Bluetooth choppyness happens only while tracking and outdoors.
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Yeah that's what I'm getting too - but annoyed that's what I have to do to use the watch while running/listening to music. It's similar to the old Jobs meme "you're holding it wrong"
To solve the problem of BT connection, I have tried all the solutions proposed here including reinstalling Google Play Service and factory reset of smartwatch... nothing.
AT THE END, the problem was only in a well-known (except me) bug BT on the Note 3 with Lollipop (solved with an app).
Now I will try to reinstall watchface and app, but finally seems to work well.
Maybe it's already fixed??
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Yeah that's what I'm getting too - but annoyed that's what I have to do to use the watch while running/listening to music. It's similar to the old Jobs meme "you're holding it wrong"
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Acording to the 6.0.1 changelog: "We have introduced improvements that reduce the choppy audio when listening music through a Bluetooth headset while your watch is in motion, like when you are walking or working out" ... can anyone can confirm this?
alvarezude said:
Acording to the 6.0.1 changelog: "We have introduced improvements that reduce the choppy audio when listening music through a Bluetooth headset while your watch is in motion, like when you are walking or working out" ... can anyone can confirm this?
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Did anybody indeed get the update? Nothing in Netherlands so far....
JimmyKane9 said:
Did anybody indeed get the update? Nothing in Netherlands so far....
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Ok, still choppy sound... maybe a little better than before, not sure, but not perfect yet
Just dropping in to let you all know it's not AW. No audio choppiness when running outdoors, tracking with GPS and listening to music on the LG watch Urbane 2 LTE, so it seems to be hardware related. Sorry
My Urbane has no problem keeping a BT connection with the phone ever, however I have to reconnect my BT headset with the watch every time i want to use them together, so this IS an AW issue.
Maybe the 360 antenna placement is causing this issue...
Hi,
i bought a GF2 but i have a problem what i did not understand.
Alle reviews are talking about "auto reckonice" of some things like walking or biking. But there nothing happend if i go 3miles in the woods with my bike. The GF2 just count steps (who dosent happen if i biking). GPS is enabled.
If i understand that right i dont need to take my smarrphone with me if i do these. I just reset my band, but it is not better than before.
Where is my failure in that?
Hexxer said:
Hi,
i bought a GF2 but i have a problem what i did not understand.
Alle reviews are talking about "auto reckonice" of some things like walking or biking. But there nothing happend if i go 3miles in the woods with my bike. The GF2 just count steps (who dosent happen if i biking). GPS is enabled.
If i understand that right i dont need to take my smarrphone with me if i do these. I just reset my band, but it is not better than before.
Where is my failure in that?
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When i'm driving a car, GF2 says, that i'm biking - imo it's just bugged.
You drive to slow
I find out that the trigger for the tracker are 10 minutes. The Auto-feature dosent log the map... Thats only if you use "training"
Regards
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gatsem said:
When i'm driving a car, GF2 says, that i'm biking - imo it's just bugged.
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Really? I've driven more than I care to lately and its never said I was biking. Are you driving on a bike path? On a more serious note that is very strange
Today o drive - with a car...16 years, but a car - ty work. There was no bike-tracking.
Next strange thing: There is no alarm clock in the Samsung Market if you dont have a samsung handy. WTF
I had it "autorecognize" my lawn mowing as biking the yesterday. Which i guess is an improvement, since I had decided the auto recognize was not working when it didn't pick up my 6 mile bike commute.
Another thing I have seen is that it seems to just scrap ALL gps data for a tracked workout if it can't make a connection when you finish the workout. So I need to start finishing before I enter the garage at work.
There is a bug. If you use these "Auto" Track Feature there will be no Data about the route inside.
Screen ist german (sry ) but you can see that the track is 0km....GPS was enabled
I am having a similar problem. I notice that my GearFit 2 is logging driving in traffic as biking. Even though I have Auto-Recognize exercise set to OFF. Several days now I have an hour of biking completed before I get out of the car for work! Samsung tech support was grasping at straws, wanted me to disable "steps". I said that if I have to manually start and stop step recording of steps to as the solution to my issue then I will be returning the device and moving on to a different manufacturer. But I like the GearFit 2 even more than the original! 'cept for this small hiccup.
Gearfit 2
Model SM-R360
Software R360XXU1BPG3
Serial No R5AH6067ZCF
Samsung Note 5
Hi!
Has anyone had a gps problem with Sports Tracker or Suunto App? They suddenly stops recording the route. The recording of the route is usually interrupted at the beginning and sometimes in the middle of the trip. I have tried restoring the factory settings but does not help. The power saving+location settings are in order and the necessary rights have been granted. The latest versions of the application and system are in use.
I tested the same on the One Plus 8. I took both the OP8 and OP10T phones into my backpack and turned on the recording of the Sports tracker or Suunto app. One Plus 8 recorded the traveled route correctly, but One Plus 10t left part of it unrecorded..
I would like to save bicycle trips and hiking on the map, but it is currently completely impossible with the phone model in question.
I have the same issue with two different 10Ts, I have not found a solution besides either leaving the screen on or connecting to power during GPS usage. If I ever figure it out I will make sure to post the fix.
Jager said:
I have the same issue with two different 10Ts, I have not found a solution besides either leaving the screen on or connecting to power during GPS usage. If I ever figure it out I will make sure to post the fix.
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Good to know I'm not the only one with this problem. It's quite annoying. Fortunately, the screen can be "locked" when it's on. So there is no fear that the phone will press the buttons by itself.
I did a factory reset again. After a week of testing, the route was saved normally every day.
Reittis said:
I did a factory reset again. After a week of testing, the route was saved normally every day.
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Thanks for the update. I might have to try that myself!