New Battery replacement: stats to zero - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello.
I've purchased a new battery for my phone, but I get the feeling that I need to zero it in. I don't know if this is what some people consider "calibrating" the battery, since what I really want is real (or more real) statistics, for the phone to read the battery power correctly.
The new battery sometimes shuts my phone down while at 40%, 46%, 20% and so on, but the batttery counter never reaches 0, 1 or 5% (just random examples) while energy is being drained, I only see these low percentages when the battery is being charged.
Is this a normal behaviour? I suppose that, in the last days of the original battery, stats weren't too reliable (it was already fat and it shut down unexpectedly), surely those stats might be causing the battery readout false info.
What is your take on this? Is there some logic to my understanding?
What I haven't done yet is test the battery (voltage and resistance) with a meter yet, but I'd like to.
Thanks!
UPDATE: Hmmm... just finished reading this.

Which battery did you purchase? Where did you purchase it from?
Thanks!

mugenbatteriesOwner said:
Which battery did you purchase? Where did you purchase it from?
Thanks!
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Hello. I did not purchase a Mugen because:
a) Shipping date is 23 july (I can't wait much longer without phone).
b) It's a tad expensive (reading the reviews, I can understand why, but still...) and then, adding the shipping charge made me think if a two year phone really needs such an expensive battery. Had I known of Mugen a year after I bought my phone, I'd gotten me one, for sure. But now? Don't know.
I purchased it at a local cell repair shop: I tested it for a few minutes and, unlike the other battery I had that my phone didn't even recognize, this one worked correctly and I have 8 days to return and exchange it for another.

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Hermes Extended Battery -- should i get it?

the 3000mAh extended battery for the Hermes costs about US$105 here in Tokyo - should i get it?
i know that it is quite bulky, but in your experience, is the regular battery that comes with the Hermes enough to get through a heavy day?
Don't be lazy and search before you post.
Read this thread.
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try on Ebay it costs about 25 euro for 3600 mA
6marcus9 said:
try on Ebay it costs about 25 euro for 3600 mA
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€25,-?!?
The 3000mAh one cost me $69 at LionBattery IIRC. And I'd rather buy from them than from a suspiciously low-pricing vendor on eBay... I'm not risking my TyTN nor my €25,- with such a vendor
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try on Ebay it costs about 25 euro for 3600 mA
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thanks for the info... but id rather trust my device (and money) on reputable stores rather than eBay... as they say, "you get what you pay for..."
no offense, though...
alfred_jp said:
the 3000mAh extended battery for the Hermes costs about US$105 here in Tokyo - should i get it?
i know that it is quite bulky, but in your experience, is the regular battery that comes with the Hermes enough to get through a heavy day?
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I just got this battery from Lionbattery and it is emazing. I use to get about 15 hrs with standard batter. With this one I get 48 hrs, it is really worth it for me. I only had the battery for 3 days thus far.
i just got the extended battery - and am in the process of charging it now...
well, as what most people said - the back cover that came with the battery doesnt fit snugly into the unit. there is a outcrop on the seams (much like a bulge if you were too tight a pants)...
question, though - it says on the label that i should initially charge and discharge it between 3 to 5 fives to maintain the noted capacity... what does it mean? that i cannot use it until ive gone through 3 cycles?
also - how does one full discharge the device? i mean, doesnt the device turn off automatically after some set of seconds? how can i keep it ON the entire time?
thanks in advanced!!!
I bought a 2800 one off ebay came with charger, and car charger for $30 last week.
alfred_jp said:
question, though - it says on the label that i should initially charge and discharge it between 3 to 5 fives to maintain the noted capacity... what does it mean? that i cannot use it until ive gone through 3 cycles?
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The whole "Lithium batteries has no memory" thing is really a myth. All batteries have a memory. The Lithiums are just way, way better at forming a false memory than Ni-Cads or even Nmh batteries. The lithiums are so good, in fact, that you can treat them as if they have no memory.
Anyway, to train the battery intially, put it through 3-5 full charge/discharge cycles. I do it with normal usage. Charge it till it is full and then use it until it shuts off. Repeat. The hard part (at least for me) is not plugging it into a USB for syncing or for modding the thing... cause that'll charge it, and you don't want to apply any charge (if possible) for those first 3-5 cycles. When I get the first battery alarm, I'll back the phone up just incase, then keep going.
Also, I've heard it was important that once you start charging it, you don't stop until it is fully charged again. ie, don't unplug it from the wall to make a call... go over to the wall and make the call while it is plugged in.
There is a site that we highly recommend for information about batteries. The site is www.batteryuniversity.com.
They also have detailed information on how to prolong the life of your Li-Ion battery HERE.
If you're up to doing some reading, you'll find the information very useful.
Mark
Lion Battery
Li-Ion's do not have memory. They have a drastic drop once they go under a certain point of discharge.
I have the 2800 mAh, it works great and after a full day of use I have about 40% battery life.
-2 hrs on phone
-40 emails
-random web browsing
-Turn 3G and WiFi off when not used.
So you can see from the stock 1300 mAh which would last me about 9 hrs this is a HUGE step in the right direction.
Mine was on ebay for 30 bones with car charger, and Wall charger.
Don't buy on eBay, at least not from lifestyle0806
Last year I ordered 2 extra batteries for my Nokia E61 from that guy.
The two batteries were wrapped by a fake nokia sticker. When I removed the sticker, I found inside the REAL size of the battery. It was a small 850mAH battery inside a plastic frame with a sticker claiming it was 1350mAH
So on eBay you'll find 2800mAH or 3000!!!... for only 20$ or something... but they are totally fake.
Or at least, they'll SUCK big time
I still used those two fake batteries, and one of them randomly shuts down my phone even if it's still full. The other one will drop to 1 bar of battery, then spike back up.. then drop.
Lion Battery said:
There is a site that we highly recommend for information about batteries. The site is www.batteryuniversity.com.
They also have detailed information on how to prolong the life of your Li-Ion battery HERE.
If you're up to doing some reading, you'll find the information very useful.
Mark
Lion Battery
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Mark,
Great information and I am glad to hear that I don't need to cylce through charge and discharge in order to get good performance out of the battery. I have cycled my new battery twice but I am not going to do it anymore. According to the information from above site, the battery last longer on partial charge.
Thanks
alkizmo said:
Don't buy on eBay, at least not from lifestyle0806
Last year I ordered 2 extra batteries for my Nokia E61 from that guy.
The two batteries were wrapped by a fake nokia sticker. When I removed the sticker, I found inside the REAL size of the battery. It was a small 850mAH battery inside a plastic frame with a sticker claiming it was 1350mAH
So on eBay you'll find 2800mAH or 3000!!!... for only 20$ or something... but they are totally fake.
Or at least, they'll SUCK big time
I still used those two fake batteries, and one of them randomly shuts down my phone even if it's still full. The other one will drop to 1 bar of battery, then spike back up.. then drop.
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I bought the 2800 one off ebay for $30. Its not fake I haven't charge it at all for 2 days and its still at 70.
Seidio 3200 MAH, It Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!
i just ordered one off ebay
I bought a 2800 mah battery for my 8525 off ebay from a cheap vendor and i admit it did give me more power but on closer inspection when i cracked the pack open it was two 1100mah wired together. I know this because they were stamped with 1100mah lol. Im still using it until this day but you truely get what you pay for. I would take the advice and buy from a reputable vendor or.... take my knowledge if you want a 2200 mah battery for 15-20 bucks.
I got an extended battery 2850mah from ebay. Initially it is no better than the regular battery.Then after a few cycles (5X) when I check my SPB battery meter which indicates the approx run time in hours it comes to 10 hours +! with the regular battery it only goes 3-4 hours. In terms of percent it stays at 100% longer.
over2land said:
The whole "Lithium batteries has no memory" thing is really a myth. All batteries have a memory. The Lithiums are just way, way better at forming a false memory than Ni-Cads or even Nmh batteries. The lithiums are so good, in fact, that you can treat them as if they have no memory.
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Sorry to have to say but in this paragraph, you contradict yourself, first you say they dont have a memory and call it a myth, then you say they do.
In fact they dont have any memory effect, its better to charge them whenever rather than let them drain completely..
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
rant over
I bought a 2800 from 360wireless on ebay and have had it for almost a month. It certainly has doubled my usage, so with random surfing on 3G/HSDPA (roughly an hour or so of solid surfing), a keepalive connection on my IM program (on E/G for battery purposes), screen dimming after 30 seconds, and about 10 emails a day and 50-100 chat messages, I'm at about 50% at the end of my day.
I'm good with that. I don't need to open it and inspect it. If it's 2 batteries put together, as long as it does the job, I'm good.

3000mAh Battery and cover

Have just bought an Hero 3000mAh battery and larger cover for £14.99 uk (free postage too) for a test. Will report back as to performance since it has just arrived and am in process of charging.
Only downside so far is thicker cover is black, but that is puerly a cosmetic factor and doesn't bother me too much. Am hoping that this will give me better than a days charge with Android 2.1 ROMs.
Am not sure that I can post where I bought the battery from on the Forum as this could be considered spamming. Could someone clarify if I am able to give the link.
I have just purchased one as well after seeing this post, Will hopefully be ok.
Initial impressions of the battery seem to be positive (pun intended). Had a slight worry when battery indicator dropped a single bar within an hour, 20 hours later and indicator is still sat at one bar from full.
Am still on my first charge and expect the battery to reach it's full potential (another pun) after a couple of charges. So far am very pleased with value of this battery and the charge it holds.
Could you maybe post some pics on how thick your hero is with the new battery
does a 3000Ma battery can do a damage to the phone?
if it doesn't, why everyone dont buy it?
Bit difficult for me to take photos at the moment, my camera is mounted up for my work and takes ages to set back up. The battery cover adds about 6mm to the depth of the phone in an area equal to the size of the battery. I actually have big hands and find it more comfortable to hold than the standard cover.
dany_my said:
does a 3000Ma battery can do a damage to the phone?
if it doesn't, why everyone dont buy it?
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3000mAh is the capacity of the battery it should run for longer, not the voltage supplied so no damage should occur. The problem comes with quality control on aftermarket batteries, they can be of lower capacity than a standard battery, despite claims of a higher capacity.
There have also been cases of aftermarket batteries overheating and expoding, it is rare but can happen. I bought the battery as an experiment to see if it lived up to the claims and am prepared to take the small risk of serious hazards with the battery. In the end it's down to paying for a name and strict quality control, Kellogs Cornflakes or Unbranded Breakfast Crunchies.
The large capacity battery's make your phone fat and ugly
I rather work with 20 hours of total battery life with a beautiful piece of kit, then to run 40 hours with an ugly 80's looking fatso.
JanSchotsmans said:
The large capacity battery's make your phone fat and ugly
I rather work with 20 hours of total battery life with a beautiful piece of kit, then to run 40 hours with an ugly 80's looking fatso.
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I don't mind having a fat and ugly phone, it tends to be topic of conversation and draws attention away from the very similar owner in my case
feedback please
I agree u don't mind having a thick phone ad long ad its safe and gives more power so pleas to those who have bought this battery can you please provide link to page and please any feedback on this battery is very much welcome
marvi0 said:
I agree u don't mind having a thick phone ad long ad its safe and gives more power so pleas to those who have bought this battery can you please provide link to page and please any feedback on this battery is very much welcome
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Am not sure on rules about posting links to retailers, but here it is http://www.oddsandpods.co.uk/hero-e...-replacement-back-cover-p-120.html#googlebase if anyone objects please PM me and will remove the link
If you enter FP code in the checkout you will get Free Postage
One thing I have noticed about charging this battery, is that the indicator will show battery as fully charged. I found that giving an extra hour after fully charged is shown will give a much better charge. So far the battery will give a good 36Hrs with Wifi continually on, haven't tried it with WiFi off for a long period, so far about 12hrs and it is still showing fully charged.
Thanks 13...
this was really helpful... i will go ahead and buy one
Has this battery worked good for you guys? No problems? I kind of need a bigger battery for the times I'm doing jobtravels etc. Earlier experiences in non original batteries are both good and bad. Bought a battery for my HTC Diamond, and the phone got fried. Don't wanna experience that again (even though my job buys me new phones when I need one)...
Just wanted to know you my experiences.
I have a 2600 mAh extended battery and my running time of the phone with enabled WiFi and Nimbuzz is about 48 hours. Without WiFi, pure Standby, is about 85-90 hours.
You need at least 10-15 recharge cycles to get the full capacity out from the battery.
Phanes said:
Just wanted to know you my experiences.
I have a 2600 mAh extended battery and my running time of the phone with enabled WiFi and Nimbuzz is about 48 hours. Without WiFi, pure Standby, is about 85-90 hours.
You need at least 10-15 recharge cycles to get the full capacity out from the battery.
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Sounds great. I might have to try one of these batteries. What battery did you buy?
I bought one of this too, off Ebay. Although the phone is a bit uglier and slightly heavier, the battery seems to last between 2 and 3 times as long. I gotta say it's totally been worth it. The extra size isn't that noticable either...most people look at the front, right?
Well i bought one and i rly dont like it.
Its almost a half centimeter bigger and allot heavier.
So be ware the phone does get ugly but you do get more battery power.
Tbh i rather recharge my phone everyday then make it so ugly
I've just ordered this battery.
Can any one give some real numbers? For example how long will it last with 3g network active. I bought this one for outdoor activities when I can't recharge for a few days and I would like to know how many days I can depend on it.
Thanks!
I rooted my phone and tweaked the crap out of it.
Runs 48 hours with standard battery now.
No need for fat and ugly
I have this battery + cover too.
Because it's bigger, I find it easier to press the hardware buttons on the bottom of the front of the Hero. THe only drawback is the total volume in your pocket, but that's just a minor point.
Also, flashing Modaco's 3.1 Rom and the newest RADIO Rom, the phone lasts for about 6-7 days with normal use (wifi/3g on when i need it, some regular phonecalls/texts)

[Q] Battery issues.........

I've had my Flyer a few months now and in the last few days the battery seems to be draining very quickly. I charged it full again last night and this morning it was at 88%.
I've turned everything off so just the bare bones of the device are alive and i'm using Juice Defender, and still no joy. It's only started doing this in the last few days so i presume the battery is on the way out very quickly.
I've let it drain to 10% and charged it, and it's made no difference.
I'm not going to mess about with settings and more waiting to see what it does etc...., I really just want to get a new battery and be done with.
Where can i buy a new battery? I've had a look on fleabay and no joy.
Any suggestions where to get one, part no. etc...?
Many thanks in advance
Recruiter1 said:
I've had my Flyer a few months now and in the last few days the battery seems to be draining very quickly. I charged it full again last night and this morning it was at 88%.
I've turned everything off so just the bare bones of the device are alive and i'm using Juice Defender, and still no joy. It's only started doing this in the last few days so i presume the battery is on the way out very quickly.
I've let it drain to 10% and charged it, and it's made no difference.
I'm not going to mess about with settings and more waiting to see what it does etc...., I really just want to get a new battery and be done with.
Where can i buy a new battery? I've had a look on fleabay and no joy.
Any suggestions where to get one, part no. etc...?
Many thanks in advance
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happened with me also....10% battery drained overnight...
what app is using most of ur battery?
sometimes push service in some free market apps drains a lot of battery and it keeps running even when app is closed... check running processes... well i uninstalled that app with push service and all became normal
Thanks for that but i've had a look through and it would seem that there isn't anything happening over night that i'm not expecting or that is being very hard on the battery.
I'm pretty confident the battery is the culprit here. Sourcing a new battery however is proving to be a problem. Somebody somewhere must be selling them.
I've just been on to HTC in the UK, they have a service centre not very far away from me and they won't sell me a battery or even give me a part no. for the battery.
Come on, somebody must know where to get one.
I think i might have found somewhere in China...
Battery - BG41200
3.7v - 4000mAh
If the prices were cheap enough how many of you would be interested in buying a battery for your Flyer.
Perhaps do a group buy?
i thought flyers battery is not user replaceable?
It's very replaceable and easy to do.
Here......
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-htc-flyer/6256123
I'm going to have to look at getting a new battery sooner or later. It's getting to the point hat the battery is always running low by the time I get home in the evening or even running out. With pretty much the same use it used to be good for a day and a half easily. Flyer was purchase may or june 2011 so it really needs to last another 16 months or so.
Well......I ask again. If anyone knows of where to buy an internal Flyer battery please post a linky.
I posted this thread earlier today
"I just wanted to know what people are getting out of their batteries. I unplug mine around 7:30 am when i leave for work. When I get to work i turn on my wifi (rooted thunderbolt) and leave that on all day. I have the setting to turn wifi off (flyer) when screen is off. When I get home around 5:30 i switch to my home network and by 8-10 my battery is pretty much gone. Is this normal battery life or are there any tricks I'm not aware of that will help with battery. My wife has an Ipad 1 and she seems to get days of use out of it before she needs to charge it.
Also, I don't watch movies or video at work... most of my use is surfing, twitter and email."
I'm trying to figure out if what is normal battery life and If mine came with a bad battery. If so Yes I would be interested in getting a new one.
The Ipad battery has much longer life and is a much bigger capacity battery. The new HTC Jetstream also has a much bigger capacity battery as well. I think HTC have learned lessons on how much battery power these flyers use, but unfortunately have used Flyer owners as guinea pigs, rather like the first Apple iPhone but that had terrible battery issues as well although they've gotten better over time.
When my Flyer was brand new the battery lasted for ages and i couldn't understand what people were on about the battery not lasting for very long. So up until a few weeks ago my battery was doing fine and then almost within a day or two the battery started to run down quickly and has been doing so ever since. I've since loaded/unloaded new ROMS and done all the usual procedures for deleting the battery stats etc..., and still no joy.
I think the problem is with the battery not being man enough for the job at 4000mAh, and the drain is such that the battery is being worked hard since September last year (in my case) to a point where it is now progressively failing. I'm not so sure either that it's all that good in terms of quality.
Most of that time it has been charging from one source or another. If my Flyer isn't in the car or in the house it's not often being used battery only unlike most other people probably use the battery only a lot, so i can't understand why the battery is failing when it's not even that old.
This is a big issue with the Flyer and for what the device cost i would have expected a lot better. I think the Flyer in itself is a fantastic piece of kit that i will no doubt keep for a very long time as i did my XDA IIi but i never had problems buying another battery for my IIi. HTC will not sell me a battery, they insist i send the device to them and they will swap it but will cost about £50-£60 for the pleasure. I flatly refuse to pay that!!
What is required is a bigger capacity battery (6000-8000mAh) in the same packaging as the current battery however, i think for now i would happily settle for another of the same battery if i could just get hold of one.
So far it's proving an impossible task!!
Just to add: Once you've made sure there aren't apps being opened at startup that don't need to be opened until you're ready to use them, also make sure wifi/bluetooth, mobile data is all off when not required, and all the usual tweakes to make sure animations are off, screen is on the lowest brightness etc..., then there is not a lot more you can do. I don't know how much use something like Juice Defender will be as that only makes sure your data connections are off at night and other times you specify. I've tried it and it didn't help at all so i don't know what else to suggest apart from turning the radio part of the phone off completely at night if it isn't on charge.
If i leave my phone off charge all night, having fully charged first, i wake up in the morning and it's down to around 86-88% battery.

[Q] Any way to ACTUALLY calibrate a new battery?

Hello
So my GS2's battery was seriously getting crappy, and I ordered a new original battery (more expensive, but I really wanted it to work properly). Before the replacement, it was all over the place, and I think I may very well have a phone that's seriously confused about its battery options.
Thing is, after the replacement the phone isn't charging the new battery properly (AFAICT). If I'd have to venture a guess, I'd say it charges it to 33% and then it states 100% full.
So, I get just a handful of hours of regular on-time with this new battery. Sometimes the phone hard-dies when saying about 50% remaining, other times it actually says something like 2% remaining, then dies, but still awfully far from logical, considering the fresh battery replacement.
I've searched for how to calibrate this thing, and most results simply recommend the "fully deplete, then fully charge, extract, reinsert, etc." method.
However, this does nothing to help me.
I read somewhere that for some custom ROMs (Dorimanx kernel?) you could do a more "explicit" recalibration, but I'm not sure if that'd work — as I'm on ParanoidAndroid ATM, and here I don't have such option.
So... Does anyone here know of any more "legitimate" way of recalibrating? I really don't want to buy a new phone, as these days I don't see any phone I really want to buy...
TIA,
Daniel
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
Sparks9876 said:
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
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Sparks9876 said:
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
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Thanks, Sparks, but I've already done this many times. I've had the battery for a couple of months now, but I really need to figure out how to calibrate the phone so that it starts behaving "normally" with my new battery...
Let it die, juice it up while it's off, take the batt for 90 sec when it hits 100% and put it back in?
Sent from the little guy
No. The whole 'calibrate the battery thing' (and the apps that claim to do it) on the S2 is Kool Aid.
There is no need to calibrate the battery
sorry for my english
MistahBungle said:
No. The whole 'calibrate the battery thing' (and the apps that claim to do it) on the S2 is Kool Aid.
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beicuxhaven said:
There is no need to calibrate the battery
sorry for my english
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Something definitely needs calibration, and yes, of course it's not the battery itself when buying a fresh original battery does not fix one's battery problems, it must be some battery controller somewhere. I just started a new job, and my CEO has a Galaxy S3 which started having battery troubles. Like me, he replaced the battery, and like me, nothing changed.
In the meantime, my S2 died completely, so problem "solved" I kinda feel retarded for planning on buying a Note 3... Probably ought to run from Samsung devices altogether...

Battery Issues, Overheating and Broken Charging Port

Affected Device
Manufacturer: Samsung
Make: Galaxy S5
Model: SM-G900T
State When Bought: Certified Refurbished + Carrier Unlocked
Store Bought From: Amazon.com
Hi.
So far, my Galaxy S5 I bought back in August has been running into issues lately. Here are the situations I've been through lately:
-The charging port on my S5 is broken. I went to my local repair shop and the guy there said that it's $129 USD to repair the charging port (that's over 1/2 the cost of the phone itself) because the people repairing my phone have to remove the glass to get access to the port itself. The guy told me to go buy an external battery charger and new batteries instead, recommending me an external battery charger and 2 batteries on eBAY. The batteries and charger were new and only $15.
-Now here's where the problems with the batteries start. After using my phone with the new battery for 15 minutes and draining from 60% to 39%, it shut off. I tried turning my phone on again, but it just wouldn't. So I charged it to 100% and put it into my phone, but when I turned my phone on, the battery starts at 81%. No big deal for me, so I start using my phone as normal.
-Now: drainage issues. My S5, no matter what ROM I flash on it, whether it be CM-based or TouchWiz-based, will drain from 81% to 0% in just ONE HOUR AND THIRTY MINUTES, and this was my defective battery before it was replaced with the ones I got from eBay. I STILL have the same problem to this day and I don't know what's going on.
-And finally, the overheating issues. When I start up and use my phone on any TouchWiz-based ROM, it will heat to somewhere about 100 Degrees Fahrenheit to 150 Degrees Fahrenheit based on what I feel on my hand. So far I've found NO WAY to fix this at all, so please help
I appreciate all the helpful comments and I hope to get my phone back in shape soon.
Since you've gone 3 days with no help, I'll try to give you what very limited help I can.
First, the overheating and short battery life go hand-in-hand. Assuming this isn't a straight up hardware issue, it would seem that the processor is running hard servicing some app. Have you added anything recently that might be running in the background? If you aren't sure what the possible cause may be, maybe using a power monitoring app like Better Battery Stats would be worth a try.
As for the early shutoff, there is such a thing as battery calibration. Don't know much about it myself, but there's information out there.
Also, I suppose you could just have a bad battery. New doesn't necessarily mean good. Ebay stuff is not always trustworthy.

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