GPS Problems - Ornate TrueSmart

Hi,
I can't get the GPS to work at all! I have tried the fixes in the engineering mode but these don't seem to help.... I have flashed Loki's ROM on my 2100 EU TS... Is there anything else that I can try... oh it did once register a single satellite when my phone could see 20+

Did you have an active data connection? No data connecting can result in lock times taking as long as never but usually 10-20mins.

Lokifish Marz said:
Did you have an active data connection? No data connecting can result in lock times taking as long as never but usually 10-20mins.
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Yeh I'm connected to wifi.... Im going through the tutorial here....
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/...5977803770477257170&oid=111628072657804333818
When im in the engineering mode and click on "EPO (IDLE)" this changes to downloading, it just continually says progress=0 and then seems to just say it failed..."EPO Update Failure" it does seems to have mentioned progress=25 once or twice...
UPDATE:
OOO I just noticed 11 are in view but 0 are in use :S
So does that mean I need to always be connected to internet to get the GPS to work or is it just the initial fix?

Pretty much every time, unless you stay in the same general (read "very local") area.

EPO: Requested download normally fails for me too. It ususally works eventually, but the data is older than preferred, I believe the locking is faster with a week old than a month old data (no real test though).
The app MT GPS downloads EPO, so you can speedup acquisition. EPO affects "sats in view" rather than the locking of them, so it may not help now.
A-GPS requires mobile data (and possibly Wifi) and speeds up locking by triangulating. Locking works fine for me without AGPS in the same area.
Another tip is to set NTP and relax locking requirements. This can be done with FasterGPS app. (You can edit gps.conf yourself too.)

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[Q] cyanogenmod 7 wifi issues

I recently flashed on cm7 on my aria. it is great but my data usage began shooting up. i realized it was due to the fact that everytime i lock my phone, it disables my wifi (i saw this because everytime i unlock im on 3g for a 1-2 seconds then i get on wifi so that means that the whole time my phone is locked it uses 3g data ) is there anyway i can prevent this from occurring??
Thanks,
Okachowwa
Menu -> settings -> wireless & networks -> wi-fi settings -> menu -> advanced -> wi-fi sleep policy -> never
I think that's it.
Sent from my Aria - CM7 Build 24
okachowwa said:
I recently flashed on cm7 on my aria. it is great but my data usage began shooting up. i realized it was due to the fact that everytime i lock my phone, it disables my wifi (i saw this because everytime i unlock im on 3g for a 1-2 seconds then i get on wifi so that means that the whole time my phone is locked it uses 3g data ) is there anyway i can prevent this from occurring??
Thanks,
Okachowwa
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Have you checked the Wifi Settings to see which sleep option is selected? There is an 'Never' option which tells wifi to stay on even when the phone sleeps.
One thing I noticed its that if I leave my house I have to turn off wifi and turn it back on to find my router.
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klbmth said:
One thing I noticed its that if I leave my house I have to turn off wifi and turn it back on to find my router.
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yup...that's why you just turn your wifi off with the notification widget (very simple and painless might I add) if you know you're leaving the house...what's the point of having wifi enabled if you're not in range of your network? all it's going to do is drain your battery. i left my wifi enabled one day when i sent to work and within half the day i had ~12% battery life...definitely not good practice to leave it enabled that's my 2 cents, do as you wish though. to each his own.
klbmth said:
One thing I noticed its that if I leave my house I have to turn off wifi and turn it back on to find my router.
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Yup, I have the same issue with CM7 nightlies. This worked flawlessly in CM6 and stock2.1. So far there isn't a viable solution.
from the CM6.1.1 thread...
Q. How do I keep my wifi from going to sleep every time the screen shuts off?
A. There is a hidden feature that disables wifi sleep.
menu > Settings > Wireless & networks > wifi settings > menu (again) > advanced > Wi-Fi Sleep policy > Never > menu > Save
However: although you can keep the wifi service from sleeping, the wifi driver will still sleep on it's own after detecting no bus activity for a period of time.
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from the CM6.1.1 thread...
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I've made sure to set Wifi Sleep Policy to "Never" but that did not fix my wifi problems. What I see when I open Wifi Settings is a cycle of:
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Scanning --> Connecting --> Disconnected... Scanning, etc
When I look in logcat it shows it attemping (in vain) to authenticate against the last wifi network I was using -- even though it is no longer in range (and clear across town). In a nutshell it is refusing to recognize the actual nearby network UNTIL I toggle wifi settings.
I've had the same behavior on FR008 and the stock ATT 2.1 load as well. When Wifi is in that on but not really connected state some apps can wake it up...the default browser usually will, but Listen would not. I just gave up and only turn on wifi when I need it.
kinggrowler said:
I've made sure to set Wifi Sleep Policy to "Never" but that did not fix my wifi problems. What I see when I open Wifi Settings is a cycle of:
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Scanning --> Connecting --> Disconnected... Scanning, etc
When I look in logcat it shows it attemping (in vain) to authenticate against the last wifi network I was using -- even though it is no longer in range (and clear across town). In a nutshell it is refusing to recognize the actual nearby network UNTIL I toggle wifi settings.
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What is the point of having wifi set to ON when you are not in range of a network? Hence why, if you are using CM7 or CM6, you should utilize the notification widget and turn wifi off if you know you're leaving the area of your network. It's simple. Things aren't ALWAYS going to work how YOU want them to work. Thing will not always be automatic. I think I quote attn1 when I say this, just because it doesn't work how you want it to work, does not mean it is broken.
zervic said:
What is the point of having wifi set to ON when you are not in range of a network? Hence why, if you are using CM7 or CM6, you should utilize the notification widget and turn wifi off if you know you're leaving the area of your network. It's simple. Things aren't ALWAYS going to work how YOU want them to work. Thing will not always be automatic. I think I quote attn1 when I say this, just because it doesn't work how you want it to work, does not mean it is broken.
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Well, just because people don't work exactly like you work, does not mean they are doing it wrong. If something is broken I'm going to call it out. I might be incorrect, but let's be clear: you aren't questioning that wifi in CM7 isn't working the way it did in CM6, you are questioning my behavior -- which is a weak argument.
I guess you don't understand the issue, so I'll spell it out:
Wifi worked flawlessly and automatically for me in stock 2.1 AND CM6. This automatic behavior does not work in CM7. Manually toggling something that simply "just worked" before is a regression, not a feature. Hence the reason I point it out -- the devs can't fix something unless they know it's broken, and I seriously doubt the devs are able to test all/every permutation. I have nothing but respect for the work they do, thus my very respectful tones in my earlier posts. I've had no indication that the devs are unwilling to get feedback about their work.
You asked a question though, and here is the answer:
I leave Wifi on all the time because I'm a consultant -- I work in many different locations throughout the week, travelling the country. I have dozens of wifi networks saved on my phone, and it is useful for me to have my phone automatically jump on the correct, nearest network. I'd rather use free wifi instead of paying AT&T for data charges. It is not always possible for me to remember I'm in a location with a known wifi network, or to remember to manually toggle wifi settings: it is useful for me to have this happen in the background. Sometimes I'm on a call, sometimes I'm heading into a meeting and I'd rather not mess with my phone. I want wifi to be on all time, scanning for the correct network, and jumping on it when it's in range.
Outrageous, right?! Not actually -- this is the existing behavior in CM6 and stock 2.1. From my standpoint, wifi just worked -- I didn't have to think about it, didn't have to manually toggle something to prevent AT&T data charges.
This is desired behavior for me, and I'm happy with rolling back to CM6 to get it. I understand that _you_ don't need this behavior, but that doesn't mean it's wrong. It just means the world is bigger than you realized.
And yes: wifi in CM7 (beta) is currently broken. Read the threads. Many people are having problems with it.
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yup...that's why you just turn your wifi off with the notification widget (very simple and painless might I add) if you know you're leaving the house...what's the point of having wifi enabled if you're not in range of your network? all it's going to do is drain your battery. i left my wifi enabled one day when i sent to work and within half the day i had ~12% battery life...definitely not good practice to leave it enabled that's my 2 cents, do as you wish though. to each his own.
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That's a good tip, I feel kind of dumb for not thinking about it lol and I also agree that it is good practice to do so. I just wanted to point it out in case a dev was going through this thread which is relevant to the topic.
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kinggrowler said:
Well, just because people don't work exactly like you work, does not mean they are doing it wrong. If something is broken I'm going to call it out. I might be incorrect, but let's be clear: you aren't questioning that wifi in CM7 isn't working the way it did in CM6, you are questioning my behavior -- which is a weak argument.
I guess you don't understand the issue, so I'll spell it out:
Wifi worked flawlessly and automatically for me in stock 2.1 AND CM6. This automatic behavior does not work in CM7. Manually toggling something that simply "just worked" before is a regression, not a feature. Hence the reason I point it out -- the devs can't fix something unless they know it's broken, and I seriously doubt the devs are able to test all/every permutation. I have nothing but respect for the work they do, thus my very respectful tones in my earlier posts. I've had no indication that the devs are unwilling to get feedback about their work.
You asked a question though, and here is the answer:
I leave Wifi on all the time because I'm a consultant -- I work in many different locations throughout the week, travelling the country. I have dozens of wifi networks saved on my phone, and it is useful for me to have my phone automatically jump on the correct, nearest network. I'd rather use free wifi instead of paying AT&T for data charges. It is not always possible for me to remember I'm in a location with a known wifi network, or to remember to manually toggle wifi settings: it is useful for me to have this happen in the background. Sometimes I'm on a call, sometimes I'm heading into a meeting and I'd rather not mess with my phone. I want wifi to be on all time, scanning for the correct network, and jumping on it when it's in range.
Outrageous, right?! Not actually -- this is the existing behavior in CM6 and stock 2.1. From my standpoint, wifi just worked -- I didn't have to think about it, didn't have to manually toggle something to prevent AT&T data charges.
This is desired behavior for me, and I'm happy with rolling back to CM6 to get it. I understand that _you_ don't need this behavior, but that doesn't mean it's wrong. It just means the world is bigger than you realized.
And yes: wifi in CM7 (beta) is currently broken. Read the threads. Many people are having problems with it.
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fyi CM6 & 2.1 != CM7. Your argument is null & void.
Also, being a "consultant" and the very important man you are, flashing a rom that's not even in beta stages yet probably isn't the best idea you've ever had.
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Also, being a "consultant" and the very important man you are, flashing a rom that's not even in beta stages yet probably isn't the best idea you've ever had.
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Why do you remind us that the rom is in a beta stage? "Beta" implies it is not fully functional, but your argument all along has been that it works perfectly....
Look, it's clear you haven't actually understood any of my posts. I'm highlighting error messages or erratic behavior I see in logcat running CM7. I've posted what I've seen so the devs can take action, or not, as they choose. Since you aren't in that audience I don't understand what your beef is.
Oh wait! Straw man arguments; personal attacks; logical fallacies: I've been dealing with either a highschool student or a troll - not sure which.
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fyi CM6 & 2.1 != CM7. Your argument is null & void.
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...although I have a strong suspicion.
kinggrowler said:
Why do you remind us that the rom is in a beta stage? "Beta" implies it is not fully functional, but your argument all along has been that it works perfectly....
Look, it's clear you haven't actually understood any of my posts. I'm highlighting error messages or erratic behavior I see in logcat running CM7. I've posted what I've seen so the devs can take action, or not, as they choose. Since you aren't in that audience I don't understand what your beef is.
Oh wait! Straw man arguments; personal attacks; logical fallacies: I've been dealing with either a highschool student or a troll - not sure which.
...although I have a strong suspicion.
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First of all:
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Just because something does not work they way you'd like it to doesn't mean you've discovered a bug.
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That being said. Beta does NOT necessarily imply that thing are not fully functioning, it simply implies that it hasn't been put into RC or stable. You can have a fully functioning beta program. HOWEVER, it may not be working properly. But creating a thread about an issue that's been brought up 20+ times now is pointless. I'm PRETTY sure the devs know about the issue, should it actually be an issue. Now that I just wasted another 15 seconds of my life, i'm going to casually /part from this thread and I'll end my post with this quote again, in case you didn't catch it the first time.
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Just because something does not work they way you'd like it to doesn't mean you've discovered a bug.
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This is for OP and very important man of the day, kinggrowler:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11171075&postcount=1054
and i'll even quote it directly for you:
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There are no broad wifi issues to resolve, and I do not plan to change the wifi driver one iota. I am using the one that works right for most people, and flawlessly for me.
If you are not having such luck, then you need to look at your access point if you have already wiped data.
Really, the constant carping about wifi is absolutely pointless.
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I believe the proper thing for me to say right now would be:
game. set. match.
Me too. I can't roam between networks, either. I have to disable and re-enable the wifi each time.
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...what's the point of having wifi enabled if you're not in range of your network?
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1) Because Google Maps uses known wifi hotspots to help establish your location.
2) So that you don't have to keep toggling wifi on and off when moving between hotspots (or home and work, for example).
3) To use the network notification feature (aka "notify me when an open network is available").
HTH
Edit: seems to be fixed in RC3!
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What is the point of having wifi set to ON when you are not in range of a network? Hence why, if you are using CM7 or CM6, you should utilize the notification widget and turn wifi off if you know you're leaving the area of your network. It's simple. Things aren't ALWAYS going to work how YOU want them to work. Thing will not always be automatic. I think I quote attn1 when I say this, just because it doesn't work how you want it to work, does not mean it is broken.
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i have try everything and still same issues with wifi. and i change the radio ( baseband ). still i am thinking of uninstalling it bc i dont have wifi
Sorry to tell you but that was with the old wifi stuff (every nightly up to build 25), which I had no problem with. The RC/nightlies have new wifi data made by jznomoney, which I have on and off problems with. Its working for most people but there are a handful who are having problems. I flashed ladios' kernel and my wifi is doing a lot better with the new RC/nightlies.
Signatures are fancy.
kinggrowler said:
I've made sure to set Wifi Sleep Policy to "Never" but that did not fix my wifi problems. What I see when I open Wifi Settings is a cycle of:
Code:
Scanning --> Connecting --> Disconnected... Scanning, etc
When I look in logcat it shows it attemping (in vain) to authenticate against the last wifi network I was using -- even though it is no longer in range (and clear across town). In a nutshell it is refusing to recognize the actual nearby network UNTIL I toggle wifi settings.
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I've noticed something similar with CM7 on my Aria. When I leave the house and come back it doesn't always connect automatically and it will enter into this cycle of scanning, connecting, disconnected.
I had to reboot the phone to get it to stop the cycle and stay connected. I don't use a lot of data anyway but I still prefer to use wifi when available. Interestingly just now it wouldn't even see any of my neighbor's wifi networks at all which is odd.

GPS In Optimus One

guys, i can't let the gps using satellite in my optimus one to work...
always says "Waiting for location" .... like using the carhome or the navigation bundled applications pre-installed...
any fix please?
You have to wait for a lock. That's normal.
Also, Try waiting for a lock outdoors. GPS signals aren't as strong as the ones used in SMS and stuff.
@ kp
ive tried waiting for quite a long time but nothing happened...tried also outdoor but the same...
ive tried using GPS Test application to located GPS Satellites, and indeed it can locate some with low to average signals...but when i am going to use the pre-installed applications for tracking my location, it still can't.
ive searched the net and someone also is having the same problem using LG Optimus One as well.... >.<
Depending on your firmware this might be a bug. There were GPS problemes reported with certain firmwares. But you have to be patient too, because sometimes it takes a while until 2 or more satellites are found and locked.
You can try using free app like "Ulysse Gizmos" on monitoring gps, especially on lockon status.
& also try this tips to access the internal gps test menu @ link: goo.gl/ZFs6D
Our LG Optimus One P500 code is 3845#*500#
Do let us know how it goes.
Good luck!
I use the P500 whitout a data connection. So does have a sense set the gps in A-GPS or if i have the data not active i have to set it in a GPS Standalone?
restart phone and try again
are u using da stock rom?
@Hesediel
If you don't have data conection you cann't receive any maps, but it's no problem to use a-GPS. But without data you will simply have the geo-data, no maps. So that seems to make no sense.
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@Hesediel
If you don't have data conection you cann't receive any maps, but it's no problem to use a-GPS. But without data you will simply have the geo-data, no maps. So that seems to make no sense.
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Yes but i would like to buy an offline navigator like sygic, copilot, ndrive, something like that not the google maps/navigatopr for now, so it's better i use gps as standalone or is the same setting it as a-gps ms based?
it's a known problem.
I've got a p500 without data connection (I'm using wi-fi only).
The first week after flashing my phone the gps works fine.
Then afer a week the gps fix begins to be sloooow.
After a month it is very slow.
So I have to do an hard reset to turn the gps works well again.
Any utility (like gps status) that try to reset the gsp... fail.
The only known solution... is a ... sadly... hard reset.
I hope the someone will be able to write an application to do the same thing like the gps hard reset.
Use fasterfix, you can find this in android market.just search for "fasterfix"
Requires root, busybox and data connection during the initial GPS lock time.
Your gps will get a fix within seconds.
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I have a problem with custom rom ( openoptimus) and gps.It takes to much time to lock to gps and sometimes i have to reset the phone in order to work...I have download the faster fix but it hasnet work
pudenee said:
it's a known problem.
I've got a p500 without data connection (I'm using wi-fi only).
The first week after flashing my phone the gps works fine.
Then afer a week the gps fix begins to be sloooow.
After a month it is very slow.
So I have to do an hard reset to turn the gps works well again.
Any utility (like gps status) that try to reset the gsp... fail.
The only known solution... is a ... sadly... hard reset.
I hope the someone will be able to write an application to do the same thing like the gps hard reset.
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Well, i have the same problem and used the same solution. But now I just wait. Sometimes I "cold start" gps with GPS Status or even the "hidden" gps test menu and after waiting a little or a lot (30s or 10min) I get GPS fix. Anyway, restarting the phone seems to work well too.

Interesting information about GPS real problem

Hi everyone
I experienced a GPS problem since i update from build 3.0xxx
and i'm not alone, probably all Neo have this issue and i'm sure is a software bug
Here you can find interesting informations
http://talk.sonyericsson.com/message/145641#145641
the gps signal usually drops every 5 minutes without reason
there is a log in the discussione and very accurate dates
this is my last reply and experience:
"Oh my god, is totally right
in flight mode no gps disconnection !!!!!!
today 20km in the city with these settings:
wifi off - gms only - connection data off (i don't have a sim plane), my cell is totally out of the net
first 10 km gps drops every 5 minutes
last 10 km, same settings but flight mode ON
no more signal drops !!!
i don't know if crying or laughing
but it is clear this is a BUG
Sony do something, we hope in you"
I thinks would be simple correct this bug, the problem is very precise
like the wifi one that drops
what do you think about?
Today 50km with Sygic gps navigation
flight mode ON
GREAT! signal perfect and very very precise
flight mode OFF
very bad, every 5:00.00 minutes the signal drops
this happen only with no Data Connection
most of you have data connection, so you don't observe the problem, but there is
agps must not work during navigation !!!
i'm unable to contact sony to solve this issue, xperia support center says me they don't speak with developers to cure this bug in the next release software
please help me, it is possible do something, some mods from your developers?
it is so bad navigate and can't receive call
really ? maybe u can upgrade the version to 4.0
Yes, without data connection, the gps drops every 5 minutes, not ecceptions
only in flight mode all is perfect
so i ask you, you are very expert and good developers
it is so difficult investigate this problem and found a solution?
I can't wait ICS, this is a big issue
I hope some developers from you can help me, found the problem and a simple solution, a command line, a script, something that allow the gps to work without data
maRRRco89 said:
Yes, without data connection, the gps drops every 5 minutes, not ecceptions
only in flight mode all is perfect
so i ask you, you are very expert and good developers
it is so difficult investigate this problem and found a solution?
I can't wait ICS, this is a big issue
I hope some developers from you can help me, found the problem and a simple solution, a command line, a script, something that allow the gps to work without data
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I don't use data, but I've never experienced any problems with GPS.
Which kernel do you use? Maybe try the OC kernel by inteks?
My is a stock model, rooted, with last firmware 4.0.2.062
the kernel is stock
i don't know to think, in flight mode works well, with no data connection drops every 5 minutes, you says is perfect , my not
but it isn't an hardware issue, this is sure
some ideas?
I usually don't use gps that long, only for getting my position for a tweet e.g. But the times I tried it worked perfect.
How is the connection in Google Maps?
I use Google Nav for hours on end in the car and never have an issue. STOCK .42 or .62
LenAsh said:
I use Google Nav for hours on end in the car and never have an issue. STOCK .42 or .62
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google navigator works with data
so not is my problem, that only occurs with no data connection
i don't use google maps, but sygic gps navigation, and all the time the signal drops every 5.00 minutes not a second more or less
this precise time let me to think there is something wrong in the firmware
tha hardware is good, because in flight mode i can navigate for hours
p.s i tried a firmware repair, and this didn't happen with the firmware 3.0xxx.145
Sorry, didn't quite understand your OP then.
sdk16420 said:
I usually don't use gps that long, only for getting my position for a tweet e.g. But the times I tried it worked perfect.
How is the connection in Google Maps?
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Ok, if you don't use the gps more then 5 minutes, you can't observe any problem
so, also your experience not is concerned about my problem
however thanks for the support, i hope someone can confirm the problem first, and then find a solution
maRRRco89 said:
google navigator works with data
so not is my problem, that only occurs with no data connection
i don't use google maps, but sygic gps navigation, and all the time the signal drops every 5.00 minutes not a second more or less
this precise time let me to think there is something wrong in the firmware
tha hardware is good, because in flight mode i can navigate for hours
p.s i tried a firmware repair, and this didn't happen with the firmware 3.0xxx.145
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You can cache maps. I do that quite often. Menu,labs,cache maps
via Sony Ericsson Xperia
My GPS tracking is fine,
50 Minutes tried at most....
(.62, inteks kernel , rooted, with theme)
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My GPS tracking is fine,
50 Minutes tried at most....
(.62, inteks kernel , rooted, with theme)
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Ok, you use an other kernel, not the stock one
but do you use data ?
even if i mean a stock model without data connection, here is the bug
maRRRco89 said:
Ok, you use an other kernel, not the stock one
but do you use data ?
even if i mean a stock model without data connection, here is the bug
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Hi,
I can confirm this bug too. I didn't notice it before ,but it's for a second only,so that is not critical for me.(I'm on official .42 ROM, no data connection)
Sent from my MT15a using XDA App
The common bug cause disconnections every 5 minutes for about 15-20s
I just discovered also Xperia Arc is affected from this
probably you can see only a second, but with different softwares the behavior is different.
Wich navigations software do you use?
It is clear is a bug, and this can appear in many forms, but with a common point, one disconnection every 5 minutes !!!
Bug not fixed with 0.62 firmware
But, there is not a developer that can solve it himself ?
If i wait sony ...
if you dont have a data plan, why not leave "data traffic" on at all time? it wont cost you anything, since you dont send/receive any data through mobile network.
i only used the gps once (about 40 minutes), with "data traffic" on, and i did not notice any signal drop.
i think this "data traffic" goes a bit deeper: when i first got the phone i switched "data traffic" to off (no data plan, anyway) and i tried to access the internet via wifi. wireless router connected, but nothing further worked until i turned "data traffic" on.
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if you dont have a data plan, why not leave "data traffic" on at all time? it wont cost you anything, since you dont send/receive any data through mobile network.
i only used the gps once (about 40 minutes), with "data traffic" on, and i did not notice any signal drop.
i think this "data traffic" goes a bit deeper: when i first got the phone i switched "data traffic" to off (no data plan, anyway) and i tried to access the internet via wifi. wireless router connected, but nothing further worked until i turned "data traffic" on.
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that's not work
if i leave data on, the system tryes the same to receive data for gps and the signal drop !!
Also I had a gps working well, but only with firmware 3.0.xxx.145

[SOLVED] Question about phone detecting it's location

Need a little help.
I'm Running AJ's Semi UCLE5 rom. It run's great. no problems with force closing or anything. I noticed something happening that I've never seen before.
On my home screen I run a widget (Beautiful Widget) for weather, location and it has a clock on it. It also allows for the location to be determined by geolocation, which is what I have it set on.
If I have wifi off, using "4g" data, my location is accurate. If I turn wifi on the widget says I am in Mesa, AZ which is about 1200 miles from where I actually am.
Two things that changed recently were that about 2 weeks ago I got a new sim card for my phone because the other one was old and curved and not making constant contact with the pins. Also, I recently got a new wireless router at home. My first guess was it could be the router since this only happens on wifi, but other apps on my phone (i.e. google maps) will be accurate with location when on wifi. Since the widget app I'm having the issue with was working with regular data, i thought i wasn't the app.
Any one with any idea here? would a wireless router cause this problem? The router works fine as far as I can tell otherwise.
edit: now it's looks like it's happening randomly. but still bothersome.
also regarding the app, i didn't think it would be the app because i've had it for a long time and it has never done this. it hasn't been updated in a while (and i don't do auto updating on Market apps.)
Please someone with more knowledge correct me if im wrong... But im pretty sure it uses your GPS for location and only data for the weather in that area... Maybe try clearing all app data and giving it a fresh start?
Clay
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clay101eve said:
Please someone with more knowledge correct me if im wrong... But im pretty sure it uses your GPS for location and only data for the weather in that area... Maybe try clearing all app data and giving it a fresh start?
Clay
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Well through all of this the gps has been turned off. It usually finds my location using the network and by that method i can understand a wider radius and less accuracy - but 1200 miles? I have used this widget for about 4-5 months, most of the time without gps turned on, and it is just now showing this problem. I will clear all the data and report back.
edit: well, just removed the widget and wiped data on the app. When I replaced the app to the homescreen (with wifi turned on) it "geolocated" me immediately to Mesa, AZ, the incorrect city. When I plcae the widget using cell data, the geolocation is correct.
jack man said:
Well through all of this the gps has been turned off. It usually finds my location using the network and by that method i can understand a wider radius and less accuracy - but 1200 miles? I have used this widget for about 4-5 months, most of the time without gps turned on, and it is just now showing this problem. I will clear all the data and report back.
edit: well, just removed the widget and wiped data on the app. When I replaced the app to the homescreen (with wifi turned on) it "geolocated" me immediately to Mesa, AZ, the incorrect city. When I plcae the widget using cell data, the geolocation is correct.
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Try cryted's gps patch.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1447599
BROKKANIC said:
Try cryted's gps patch.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1447599
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I don't think gps is the issue. over the last few hours I've been trying to narrow down the problem. When I am away from my home wifi everything works perfectly. I decided to go into my router settings to see what would happen. When i took off all of the security and made it an open wireless network the problem seemed to go away. I gave it about 30 minutes on an open network and it located me fine without gps turned on.
I don't know much about tweaking security settings on routers but i guess it's time to branch out to learn.
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now, with wifi on, every time i refresh the weather widget it flips between my city and Mesa, AZ (remember they are about 1200 miles apart). I don't know. I guess my problems could be worse. at least i'm not boot looping or bricked.
I may have fixed this. When I got a new wireless router and programmed it, I gave it the same network name and password but it had newer and higher levels of security settings. The phone was still programmed with the old username and password so it picked it up automatically and logged on.
I went into the wifi settings on the phone and "forgot" the network and then re-logged in. So far it has shown it is fixed. Crossing fingers but I don't know enough about wireless routers and signals to know if this would do it.
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It is my network somehow. I have since been on two other wireless networks (neighbors) and it did not do this strange location behavior. (what I though fixed it in this post above did not)
Anyone want to give me insight as to why my router would tell me I am halfway across the country?
jack man said:
I may have fixed this. When I got a new wireless router and programmed it, I gave it the same network name and password but it had newer and higher levels of security settings. The phone was still programmed with the old username and password so it picked it up automatically and logged on.
I went into the wifi settings on the phone and "forgot" the network and then re-logged in. So far it has shown it is fixed. Crossing fingers but I don't know enough about wireless routers and signals to know if this would do it.
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It is my network somehow. I have since been on two other wireless networks (neighbors) and it did not do this strange location behavior. (what I though fixed it in this post above did not)
Anyone want to give me insight as to why my router would tell me I am halfway across the country?
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Yes, its your wireless network, go into settings and uncheck location set by wireless network. will force GPS, and be more accurate, but also cost more battery.
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Thats location settings or some crap depending on your build.
jack man said:
It is my network somehow. I have since been on two other wireless networks (neighbors) and it did not do this strange location behavior. (what I though fixed it in this post above did not)
Anyone want to give me insight as to why my router would tell me I am halfway across the country?
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Did you buy that router second hand or new? If you bought it new, it was probably either a return or a refurbish. What's happening is the MAC of the router was registered in Mesa by Google when their street map cars came by scanning for BSSIDs. Same thing happened to me with a used router I bought and my old router when I moved across the country. AFAIK, there's no way to reregister the MACs location other than use the _nomap optout and waiting for google to get around to updating it's database. Can't post links yet but here's some more info.
supportDOTgoogleDOTcom/maps/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1725632
tomshardwareDOTcom/news/Google-Maps-Wi-Fi-Location-SSID,14000.html
zdnetDOTcom/blog/btl/google-offers-street-view-opt-out-for-wi-fi-mapping-unethical-snooping-yet-we-must-opt-out/63456
Edit: here's a tool for geolocation of MAC addresses. blogDOTwlancontrollerDOTcom/?p=67 Search, then get the lat/long and choose show in gmaps. Mine shows my old street when I lived in a another state.
spiralout1 said:
Edit: here's a tool for geolocation of MAC addresses. blogDOTwlancontrollerDOTcom/?p=67 Search, then get the lat/long and choose show in gmaps. Mine shows my old street when I lived in a another state.
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Here's something weird after I did what you mentioned here. After looking at the map when searching the MAC address it put it in Manhattan, NY, at the other end of the country. Any idea?
Thanks, by the way, for the links.
wow. I finally fixed it. Yes, my router was purchased used so I guess Google had mapped it and the MAC address was still showing as it's old "home." This link showed me how to opt out of Google's MAC address mapping and within about 20-30 minutes, my location was finally showing correctly on all of our mobile devices.
http://support.google.com/maps/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1725632
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Google-Maps-Wi-Fi-Location-SSID,14000.html
Thanks again for the help.
Glad that helped ya and especially so quickly. That **** had me stumped for around half a year before I figured out what the deal was and even then, it took well over a month for them to update my MAC in their database.

GPS fails unrecoverably within 10min on a GSM SIM, until phone is rebooted.

On the Rezound the location services target-symbol icon is always present in two states. An OFF state where only the main target symbol is showing, and an ON state having an additional pair of lines to its right hand side.
I have been on 4.03.605.2 Update since August with no issues, except two days ago I cancelled Verizon and have been using the phone with a T-Mobile SIM. Again all is working flawlessly (including data, phone, and texts) except the GPS started to fail within 10min of navigation. It fails because somehow the entire location service crashes (the target icon disappears completely), at which point fiddling with settings or AGPS cache and such is irrelevant. Only a phone reboot restarts the service.
(before cancelling Verizon, I was able to drive 1700 miles across country having the GPS fully functional for 8-12 hours at a time daily with no hitches. So there is something new amiss here. Also, I have already wiped the phone and reinstalled the 4.03.605.2 clean from scratch and re-rooted).
->My question is, does anyone know which specific apk is responsible for the location services (including the taskbar symbol) and can it be hot restarted by itself, or what could possible be causing it to crash in the first place ?
If you wanted you could try a new ROM or you could try a factory reset.
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In HTC devices (that I know of) the location services target-symbol icon is always present in two states. An OFF state where only the main target symbol is showing, and an ON state having an additional pair of lines to its right hand side.
I have been on 4.03.605.2 Update since August with no issues, except two days ago I cancelled Verizon and have been using the phone with a T-Mobile SIM. Again all is working flawlessly (including data, phone, and texts) except the GPS started to fail within 10min of navigation. It fails because somehow the entire location service crashes (the target icon disappears completely), at which point fiddling with settings or AGPS cache and such is irrelevant. Only a phone reboot restarts the service.
(before cancelling Verizon, I was able to drive 1700 miles across country having the GPS fully functional for 8-12 hours at a time daily with no hitches. So there is something new amiss here. Also, I have already wiped the phone and reinstalled the 4.03.605.2 clean from scratch and re-rooted).
->My question is, does anyone know which specific apk is responsible for the location services (including the taskbar symbol) and can it be hot restarted by itself, or what could possible be causing it to crash in the first place ?
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the location icon is stored in framework-res.apk and comes active by the framework.jar and services.jar i know there is a patch floating around that will give the GPS a more accurate location reading with updated north america stats. you can try to find this and run it to see if it patches the problem. i have never heard of this before.
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the location icon is stored in framework-res.apk and comes active by the framework.jar and services.jar i know there is a patch floating around that will give the GPS a more accurate location reading with updated north america stats. you can try to find this and run it to see if it patches the problem. i have never heard of this before.
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I am afraid, the the gps.conf tweak is not helping in my case (tried it). For the lack of better explanation, it is as if the gps driver/daemon crashes (to borrow a windows term) and I can play with the settings and checkboxes all day, it will not come back online until a reboot.
To give you an idea of the symptoms.
For up to 10-15 min it works flawlessly, locking within 2secs, seeing 20 satellites and tracking 10-14 of them. Then within a few turns of GPS navigation the location services icon disappears, the gps icon starts blinking and GPStest screen goes blank with 0 in sight and 0 tracking. No amount of check-box fiddling in settings, or AGPS cache clearing recovers it until reboot.
Uninstalled gMaps, and tried a few other packages as well (CoPilot, Maverick, OsmAnd) makes no difference.
Even without any Nav software running ... just launching the GPStest app and leaving it on with the screen on, it will go for an hour or so before jamming. So GPStest goes for an hour and Nav apps go for 10-15min ... should I assume some kind of GPS buffer overflows and crashes the location service ?
SOLVED.
For some reason the Rezound needs to be either in Global or CDMA mode for the GPS to work indefinitely without fail.
When I put it on GSM / UMTS the GPS only lasts for an hour or so before failing and requiring phone reboot.
In GSM mode it fails within 5-10 min.
In CDMA mode it works perfectly even though it gets no signal due to the GSM SIM inside.
(Keep in mind I use the phone with a GSM SIM)
In summary, keeping the phone in CDMA or Global mode fixes the issue. I also added these lines in the gps.conf for the heck of it (but I really do not think they do anything. I can still get it to fail by switching modes)
PHONE_TYPE=Global
PHONE_TYPE=CDMA
PHONE_TYPE=GSM / UMTS
PHONE_TYPE=GSM
PHONE_TYPE=UMTS
ThomasAn said:
SOLVED.
For some reason the Rezound needs to be either in Global or CDMA mode for the GPS to work indefinitely without fail.
When I put it on GSM / UMTS the GPS only lasts for an hour or so before failing and requiring phone reboot.
In GSM mode it fails within 5-10 min.
In CDMA mode it works perfectly even though it gets no signal due to the GSM SIM inside.
(Keep in mind I use the phone with a GSM SIM)
In summary, keeping the phone in CDMA or Global mode fixes the issue. I also added these lines in the gps.conf for the heck of it (but I really do not think they do anything. I can still get it to fail by switching modes)
PHONE_TYPE=Global
PHONE_TYPE=CDMA
PHONE_TYPE=GSM / UMTS
PHONE_TYPE=GSM
PHONE_TYPE=UMTS
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Have you tried cm9 yet. Option for GSM and cdma on the same line might help.
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Have you tried cm9 yet. Option for GSM and cdma on the same line might help.
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That option on CM9 is the descriptive form of the "Global mode" in the HTC RUU under the hood.
My next step is to understand why the network modes affect the Rezound GPS like this.
Anyone knows if there an HTC doc that describes the official GPS APIs, or at least how to properly construct a gps.conf file with settings that the Rezound actually understands ?
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My next step is to understand why the network modes affect the Rezound GPS like this.
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Did some more searching on this and so far I begin to suspect the possibility that the Rezound is deliberately GPS-locked to the CDMA network by Verizon. (Unlike my earlier claim, the global mode does fail eventually. It just takes a while longer).
I am not happy with this but so far the only workaround is to switch to CDMA while navigating (even if the phone gets no signal due having a GSM sim).
I will keep looking ... and any suggestions are welcome...
The GPS works on the CDMA setting even with the SIM removed completely, (but it fails if set to GSM with no SIM and no data).

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