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Hey pals im thinking to get a new android phone & im thinking to buy Lg optimus 1 . So howz this phone n i see only 2-3 custom roms available for it . BTW howz its speed of handling games n apps on it thnks
Best value for money at the 220euros price range, for sure!
So how much you wanna spend?
What are your needs?
Internet surfing, gaming, music, battery life demands?, movie watching, gps ?
For my needs is more than ok so far, it has everything i need... so..
1) what's your budget
2) your needs
The P500 was my first Android phone. Before I had the Samsung SGH-D500 so a HUGE jump of ages xD Of course I'm not old school I heavily used a iPodTouch 2G before. (Same prices more or less) For ME its enough and I can't wait for a good 2.3 ROM on that device. But if I NOW would have the choice I maybe would wait. Since LG is releasing the first DualCore Smartphone soon. But I took the Optimus One. And I think I bought the right device from the right company at the right time.
It looks good is not to big it can receive calls, SMS and E-Mails and stuff. Playing isnt really possible yet because of a touchscreen bug. Which hopefully get fixed with Android 2.3. And if I take a look on the hardware you get more then you pay. So its really a good choice if you dont want to spend that much money on a mobile phone. Also a good choice would be the Samsung wave which costs around 100€ more but does have extremly good hardware. (Like a Galaxy S i9000) However that one uses Bada NOT Android which was the reason why I didnt took it. But there are only a few good arguments why you should take a Android phone over Bada. So its up to you.
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morx said:
Best value for money at the 220euros price range, for sure!
So how much you wanna spend?
What are your needs?
Internet surfing, gaming, music, battery life demands?, movie watching, gps ?
For my needs is more than ok so far, it has everything i need... so..
1) what's your budget
2) your needs
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well wat i need is internet surfing ,gaming , gps ,n does it lag or this phone is smooth n hows the movie n gaming experience on it
+1 added bro thnx fir reply
n my budget is upto 15K indian rupees
@N3mesis
bro what toch screen bug r u talking about ??
sometimes the mobile takes a bit of time to register your touch. say, typing a msg. sometimes you type 2-3 letters & than only the letters will appear. but this is random & its not that it becomes totally unusable. just a bit annoying at times as it limits your typing speed & so will affect games that needs you to make a lot of touch control (no D-pad or scroll here).
sam.shab said:
sometimes the mobile takes a bit of time to register your touch. say, typing a msg. sometimes you type 2-3 letters & than only the letters will appear. but this is random & its not that it becomes totally unusable. just a bit annoying at times as it limits your typing speed & so will affect games that needs you to make a lot of touch control (no D-pad or scroll here).
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ok bro so how much battery back up do u get on this phone
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@N3mesis
bro what toch screen bug r u talking about ??
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It laggs when touching the touchscreen in-game i also notice it while typing fast on the keyboard. Since I use amberhome i dont had the problem while typing (especially with using multitouch)
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It was my first android, and i think it is awesome. Some of my friends are using X8, Wildfire, X10. This phone's hardware worths more than its price, and believe me, it is an awesome choice to step into the world of android!
The only time I've ever noticed any significant lag was during the beginning of each level of Angry Birds. Other than that it has been great.
The phone is nice but check this thread for a common problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894210
nice work
nice work man...Custom ROMS to meet every person's taste.. GOOD WORK !!
This phone is the ideal way to get to know Android, imho.
It has decent performance (mainly because it is not memory restricted as many other phones are, X8 and original Samsung Galaxy come to mind), it comes with Froyo and LG has already promised a Gingerbread upgrade (though that will probably take a while to arrive), and it has no annoying quirks with regards to ordinary phone functions.
I come from the original Samsung Galaxy, which cost twice the amount and is still stuck with android 1.6 and incredibly low RAM memory (okay so the screen was awesome and it had 8GB internal storage). There was also a problem with the proximity detector which meant that I often accidentally hung up on people while talking on the phone.
None of that bull**** on this one, it works really well. I suggest you pair it with noejn's excellent Void. rom (beautiful black theme and very configurable!)
The only other budget android phone which might even be better is the ZTE Blade (aka San Francisco) because it's cheaper and because more ROMs are available.
Other decent budget androids:
- x8: stuck on 2.1, low RAM and no roms available afaik
- samsung apollo/europa: low resolution, stuck on 2.1 afaik
- HTC Wildfire: nice phone, but low resolution and slower processor
- that's about it, at least what's available around here...
- samsung apollo/europa: low resolution, stuck on 2.1 afaik
It already has Froyo.
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mainly because it is not memory restricted as many other phones are, X8 and original Samsung Galaxy come to mind
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Certain versions have about 150 MB of free memory available. IMHO that's "memory restricted" for a phone sold today.
Depends on whether we're talking about ram or flash memory I'm talking about ram and no, a phone with 512MB still qualifies as well-endowed!
Sent from my LG-P500 on Void.
would you still recommend void over one of the two gingerbread ports; either cm7 or the other? thanks!
I'd still recommend void over the Gingerbread ROMs at this point. It may not be the latest and greatest, but everything works.
GB roms are in alpha phase, one big benefit with VIOD is that the google Ads are blocked, if google ads are blocked in GB roms, then i am happy to use it...
I believe you can't get Adobe Flash on the phone because of the mediocre CPU used.
Hi to all,
Sorry about the question. Just want some opinion and i dont mean to promote/demote android or wp7.
I have desire HD, but mine having problem with random reboot, poor battery life(after overnight charge can last 7am-2pm)...thinking on getting a phone with better batt life with heavy use on whatsapps and browsing.No gaming or other funny2 apps on android
I should have buy another better android phone but now i already having other android devices (samsung plus 7.0 and Noontec android HD player).Now thinking on getting Lumia 800,do it have a good batt life?
Some say yes, some say no. I found mine decent enough, and I used it pretty heavily.
I did this switch about a week ago, having had a negative experience introducing my Desire HD to a marble floor at high velocity...
Basically I love the phone - the facebook/twitter integration is fantastic.
Probably worth saying though that the battery life isn't fantastic. Just about on a par with my Desire HD, though I do find the indicator to be somewhat overly cautious - 50% charge remaining looks more like 30 on the little display (reached this at 4pm today) ...
I use social sites, push gmail, spotify streaming (1hr), 10 SMS and approx 1 hr calls plus other minor stuff and generally get about 16 hours before charging. I suspect if you use it more you will get less. not a problem for me as it sits on the charger at work, but may be more relevant if you can't do that ...
The only thing I miss from my Desire HD is the Internet Sharing functionality, which is there in WP7.5, just waiting on Nokia to update it ...
The size and display are beautiful - I carry an iPad 2 for things that benefit from a larger screen, but am currently finding myself using the phone more for emails etc.
I heard a lot of negativity around the door covering the USB port, but I quite like it ....
You might want to see what happens with the Lumia 900 as well - that may have a bigger battery and better battery life (or it may not).
hoyoyo80 said:
I should have buy another better android phone but now i already having other android devices (samsung plus 7.0 and Noontec android HD player).Now thinking on getting Lumia 800,do it have a good batt life?
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As a Lumia 800 user, I find the switch to be very painful and counter-productive. Here are some of the issues that I have encountered:
Extremely poor battery life. I cannot stress this enough. On normal usage (non-smartphone activities), it is fine. But try using Nokia Maps for 15 minutes or so and you will see the battery drain very, very quickly. And Nokia Maps is not even close to what Google Maps can do in terms of features.
No multi-tasking. Imagine this: you are in the middle of an action game when you accidentally press the Search button. Boom! The search interface pops up. Your game? Gone.
STILL NO USB OR WIFI TETHERING/HOTSPOT!!! Aarrrggghhh!!! It's 2012, not 2002.
Over-zealous OS lockdown. No third party dialer (those on the market aren't real dialer replacements). No folders for apps. No USB mass storage (fortunately, you can enable this through a simple registry tweak).
Very expensive games (compared to iOS or Android) with generally lower quality graphics.
Having said all this, your requirements may be very different from mine. It does have a nice & responsive UI, very good social network integration, nice MS Office hub and a nice email application. Some people swear by Lumia 800.
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No multi-tasking. Imagine this: you are in the middle of an action game when you accidentally press the Search button. Boom! The search interface pops up. Your game? Gone.
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That's a load of rubbish. Long-press the back button and the task manager appears.
I've just migrated from Android to WP7 on the Lumia and am much happier. Now I'm not messing about flashing ICS roms every week I trust my phone with my data.
hoyoyo80 said:
Hi to all,
Sorry about the question. Just want some opinion and i dont mean to promote/demote android or wp7.
I have desire HD, but mine having problem with random reboot, poor battery life(after overnight charge can last 7am-2pm)...thinking on getting a phone with better batt life with heavy use on whatsapps and browsing.No gaming or other funny2 apps on android
I should have buy another better android phone but now i already having other android devices (samsung plus 7.0 and Noontec android HD player).Now thinking on getting Lumia 800,do it have a good batt life?
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You will definitely like the Lumia 800 if you're coming from a Desire HD (I owned and hated that phone XD) the newer models of the Lumia 800 hasn't had any problems with battery life. For whatsapp and browsing, it's fine. Gaming drains as usual. See if there's anyway to lend one. To see how battery works out for you.
Nice point of view, yes, I don't do game on small device,even on tab I found it hard. But no tethering? How about near future,since my laptop will share internet from phone. I just want a simple phone with social n web browse.Thanks all
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BlitterTwisted said:
That's a load of rubbish. Long-press the back button and the task manager appears.
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Not all games/apps can handle that gracefully. Fusion:Sentient would simply restart the game while Wordament would reset the score (when "switched out" at certain point).
Hi,
got my Luma on Saterday and i love it, i have came from an Desire, the differance is amazing, smooth and fast, will not be hicking this, hope there will be more apps comming out, had to wait a while before the android mrket got some decent apps.
the batteryis hard to judge got mine on all the tme, playing games or music downlaoding music frome zune (for free for 14 days woho)
came from desire s not going back
go for it..you will not regret it..you will get better battery life than the desire hd no matter what..my friend still has a desire hd and im trying hard for him to not convert to iphone..
the lumia is so seamless..so flawless..i had actually converted from the desire s to an lg optimu 7 but immediately realised i needed the lumia..got one from ebay and it really is amazing..try it..just try it..
OK.I'm convinced. One more thing, I regularly take photos during my work time. But my office desktop dont hve zune(can't install anything w/o admin permission) ..so can I access photo w/o zune or access SD card directly(I already google but can't find answer)...
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hoyoyo80 said:
OK.I'm convinced. One more thing, I regularly take photos during my work time. But my office desktop dont hve zune(can't install anything w/o admin permission) ..so can I access photo w/o zune or access SD card directly(I already google but can't find answer)...
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Ahhh...ok, I have another solution, when you purchase your phone, download the app Skydrive, it's Microsoft's cloud connected to your Hotmail account, so you can upload your photos there and access them through your email account, that way you don't have to install anything and it's easier for you to upload pictures to that and load them on to your phone when you get home to your PC vice-versa.
Bought a lumia Hope its fullfil my needs...but look like it will...need to test batt life
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Hi everybody,
I kind of in the same situation. I am currently an Android user, and I really like it, but two things bother me:
- OS Fragmentation, I hate having to install custom roms every time because the official update never comes, and manufacturers usually leave 6 months old devices forgotten.
- Another thing, I've noticed that WP usually have "less powerful" hardware than Android, there is no big race for dual or quad cores... That tells me that the OS doesn't need that much power to run smoothly.
Said that, i have a few questions. What is the expected longevity for this phone? Is it expected to receive the next OS update? and finally, what are the main drawbacks you find for the OS and are they expected to be solved in future updates?
Thanks in advance and cheers
WitchMX said:
Hi everybody,
I kind of in the same situation. I am currently an Android user, and I really like it, but two things bother me:
- OS Fragmentation, I hate having to install custom roms every time because the official update never comes, and manufacturers usually leave 6 months old devices forgotten.
- Another thing, I've noticed that WP usually have "less powerful" hardware than Android, there is no big race for dual or quad cores... That tells me that the OS doesn't need that much power to run smoothly.
Said that, i have a few questions. What is the expected longevity for this phone? Is it expected to receive the next OS update? and finally, what are the main drawbacks you find for the OS and are they expected to be solved in future updates?
Thanks in advance and cheers
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Microsoft and Nokia have been doing quite well as far as OS and firmware updates are concerned. Sure there are lots of country variants for the firmware and they may not be released at the same time, but the wait is nowhere near as long as what Android users typically have to endure.
Also, OS updates seem to be quite independent of firmware updates (correct me if I'm wrong). At least this is the case for Lumia 800. So that makes it a lot easier for Microsoft to push new OS updates to WP users directly.
As for the hardware, you are correct. WP (up until now) does not really require multi-core CPU in order to run smoothly. Lumia 800 is packed with a single-core 1.4GHz processor, so it is quite a powerful phone. My only gripe is the under-powered GPU for gaming. 3D games look less appealing compared to their Android or iOS counterparts.
As for the drawbacks, I have already listed quite a few in the previous page.
For me I think I was happier with android, but the installation of new roms was a great pleasure for me, not a drawback.
The OS runs smooth as anything on its 1.4ghz core and I never use my phone for 3d gaming so I really have no need for a faster proc.
The biggest drawback for me are the following.
-Some of the 'simplification' of the OS is mid-boggling. If you turn down the volume because its late at night, or your music is too loud expect EVERYTHING on your phone to have a lower volume, the ringtone, the alarm, the games, the notifications etc. I have been late for work 3 times now because I had dropped the volume of my alert tones late at night and I subsequently had no alarm.
-The apps are lacking but expanding all the time, sometimes I get a bit frustrated by the 'no results' when searching for a slightly more obscure app feature. Android just has everything.
-The navigation is a long way off being as good as google navigation but is decent all the same, but NO WAY POINTS (stupidity!). That being said I still think google navigation is still a way off the market leaders like tomtom.
Basically for a day to day phone and for its core features, it is excellent. But dont expect to be able to customise anything other than your home tiles (sometimes). If an OS 'feature' could be considered to confuse a simpleton then you can bet your arse it wont be there.
BlitterTwisted said:
That's a load of rubbish. Long-press the back button and the task manager appears.
I've just migrated from Android to WP7 on the Lumia and am much happier. Now I'm not messing about flashing ICS roms every week I trust my phone with my data.
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When I played NFS Underground an accidently pressed the Search button, when going back to the game it didn't continue. It started all over. So no not a load of rubbish. Only native apps has continue on "multi-task"
It's not only native apps, third party ones can do it, as long as they're coded for it.
Hi all,
I like to have some of you guy's opinion bout wich phone to buy. I do this work where i constantly need 2 phone's, and have a high need of fast GPS connection.
At the moment i'm using 2phones, one is an old school nokia for my work, the other one is my main phone, Galaxy S i9000.
I fixed the i9000 with a hardwaremod so i have superfast gpslock (bad connection back cover)
So now you know what my priority's are, i like to know what Cellphone you guys choose of the two:
Galaxy S duos (Price in my cellphone shop 300euros)
- 1 GHz Cortex-A5 processor
- resolution: 480 x 800 pixels (4.0inch) 230ppi
- ics pre installed, upgradable to Jellybean
- 4 GB storage, 768 MB RAM
- Camera 5 MP, 2592х1944 pixels with flash
- 1500 mAh accu
--> easy rooting, i know samsungs interface and love the fastness of the gps.
Alcatel 997D: (price in me cellphoneshop 220euros)
- 1 GHz Dual-Core Cortex-A9 CPU
- resolution: 480 x 800 pixels (4.3inch) 217ppi
- ICS installed
- 4 GB storage, 1GB RAM
- Camera 8 MP 3264 x 2448 pixels with flash
- 1800 mAh accu
--> no root know yet cuz this is a brand new phone, dunno bout gps speed etc.
My max is 300euros for this phone, so i would like to have some opinions from other people, cuz i'm a bit of a samsung fan
i love to play with my phone, so rooting is prefered, but i dunno if the dualcore rapes the samsungs single core
kind regards,
Robin
robin-sips said:
Hi all,
I like to have some of you guy's opinion bout wich phone to buy. I do this work where i constantly need 2 phone's, and have a high need of fast GPS connection.
At the moment i'm using 2phones, one is an old school nokia for my work, the other one is my main phone, Galaxy S i9000.
I fixed the i9000 with a hardwaremod so i have superfast gpslock (bad connection back cover)
So now you know what my priority's are, i like to know what Cellphone you guys choose of the two:
Galaxy S duos (Price in my cellphone shop 300euros)
- 1 GHz Cortex-A5 processor
- resolution: 480 x 800 pixels (4.0inch) 230ppi
- ics pre installed, upgradable to Jellybean
- 4 GB storage, 768 MB RAM
- Camera 5 MP, 2592х1944 pixels with flash
- 1500 mAh accu
--> easy rooting, i know samsungs interface and love the fastness of the gps.
Alcatel 997D: (price in me cellphoneshop 220euros)
- 1 GHz Dual-Core Cortex-A9 CPU
- resolution: 480 x 800 pixels (4.3inch) 217ppi
- ICS installed
- 4 GB storage, 1GB RAM
- Camera 8 MP 3264 x 2448 pixels with flash
- 1800 mAh accu
--> no root know yet cuz this is a brand new phone, dunno bout gps speed etc.
My max is 300euros for this phone, so i would like to have some opinions from other people, cuz i'm a bit of a samsung fan
i love to play with my phone, so rooting is prefered, but i dunno if the dualcore rapes the samsungs single core
kind regards,
Robin
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I have the 997D and I'm very satisfied. It has much better specs than the Galaxy S duoS and it is also cheaper. Go with the alcatel.
I had the same doubt and I've finally gone for the Alcatel, but I can still understand people who would choose Samsung Galaxy S Duos instead. Let's take a look at the pros and cons of each one:
Alcatel OT 997 D:
Pros:
Dual core processor
1 Gb RAM
Cheaper (around 100 euros cheaper than Galaxy S Duos)
Splash proof coating (called P2i)
Cons:
Low resolution for such a big screen, Although, as in Galaxy Nexus, since it has onscreen buttons for home, back and menu on the bottom, resolution is a bit less than the stated 480x800
Worse camera and led flash, although not bad at all
Samsung Galaxy S Duos:
Pros:
Awesome screen quality
Samsung has already included this phone in the list of phones which will get an upgrade to Android 4.1
Awesome camera and led flash
Cons:
Very expensive, too much in my opinion, given the specs
Single core processor
Just 768 Mb RAM
It's really up to you, but well, I don't have to tell you I'd go for the Alcatel, since I have already done so.
jman0 said:
I had the same doubt and I've finally gone for the Alcatel, but I can still understand people who would choose Samsung Galaxy S Duos instead. Let's take a look at the pros and cons of each one:
Alcatel OT 997 D:
Pros:
Dual core processor
1 Gb RAM
Cheaper (around 100 euros cheaper than Galaxy S Duos)
Splash proof coating (called P2i)
Cons:
Low resolution for such a big screen, Although, as in Galaxy Nexus, since it has onscreen buttons for home, back and menu on the bottom, resolution is a bit less than the stated 480x800
Worse camera and led flash, although not bad at all
Samsung Galaxy S Duos:
Pros:
Awesome screen quality
Samsung has already included this phone in the list of phones which will get an upgrade to Android 4.1
Awesome camera and led flash
Cons:
Very expensive, too much in my opinion, given the specs
Single core processor
Just 768 Mb RAM
It's really up to you, but well, I don't have to tell you I'd go for the Alcatel, since I have already done so.
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Well i bought the 997D to, and i'm very happy with it, i came from a i9000 galaxy S, and seriously, why is samsung so slow at starting up???
now i'm looking for a way to root this thing any topics about it yet?
robin-sips said:
Well i bought the 997D to, and i'm very happy with it, i came from a i9000 galaxy S, and seriously, why is samsung so slow at starting up???
now i'm looking for a way to root this thing any topics about it yet?
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Mine is waiting at the Post Office at the moment (I live in Spain and it came from Germany) so I guess I'll be able to get it today or tomorrow. I'll try to root it right away, and I'll post to report if I can get something from it.
I haven't been able to root the phone yet. It looks like it's rootable if you keep the stock firmware it comes with, but if you install the latest firmware via OTA update (as I did) there's still no known method to root it.
I tried SuperOneClick, Unlockroot 3.0 (recently updated) and "Root with_Restore by Bin4ry v15.7" (which can be found here at xda) and none of them worked. I guess we'll have to wait. If we had a working Clockworkmod recovery, maybe we could use Chainfire's SuperSU zip, which I succesfully used in the past on other phones. I tried signing it, and then tried to flash it using the stock recovery, but there's no way to do such a thing, since the signature verification always fails.
Another good reason to buy Alcatel OT-997D and not Samsung Galaxy S Duos: the battery.
On the Alcatel, battery can last up to 2 days of my normal use (1hr. talking, around 2 hrs of music and 1 hr. of playing every day), and, according to people I know who have purchased the Samsung, on that one, battery lasts a little longer that 24 hrs. with a similar usage pattern.
Is 997D able to move apps to SD Card
Just purchased a Galaxy S duos with ICS, and finding it has some severe SDCard memory limitations. Had seen some people complaining about this on Forums and GSM Arena, but didn't realise how serious the limitation was until experiencing it myself:
1. 4G internal SD specified, only 2G available
2. Mass storage mode not available, only MTP and PTP. I see from the 997D Q&A that it may still have this feature.
3. Unable to move apps (and therefore associated data) to SD Card without rooting.
4. The pre-installed Navigon maps stores maps on internal SD card, which will preclude use in US or Europe where maps are much larger than my home country Australia.
5. Only apps that appear to use external SD card are inbuilt music and camera. Presumably many larger apps or games will not be useable on this phone. Sony music unlimited will not offline sync with the external SD card, have read that spotify won't either.
6. Seems to be a general issue with latest Samsung phones, but at least the likes of S3 and Note 2 have minimum 16GB of memory to play with, 2GB is just not enough.
7. As an aside, I'm also wondering if the 997D supports DLNA out of the box ?
Wondering if the 997D has the same memory limitiations ? Thinking of returning the galaxy s duos and trying to source a 997D (not easy from Australia).
I'm generally happy with the galaxy s duos, performance is as expected, size, screen and dual sim function are good. However, getting somewhat concerned that I will run out of SDCard storage very quickly with these limitations. Already consumed more than half just by installing basic applications I need for my job.
Looks to me like Samsung should not be selling these ICS+ android phones with anything less than 8GB of available internal memory if they're not able to install apps onto the external SD Card.
bradmini said:
Just purchased a Galaxy S duos with ICS, and finding it has some severe SDCard memory limitations. Had seen some people complaining about this on Forums and GSM Arena, but didn't realise how serious the limitation was until experiencing it myself:
1. 4G internal SD specified, only 2G available
2. Mass storage mode not available, only MTP and PTP. I see from the 997D Q&A that it may still have this feature.
3. Unable to move apps (and therefore associated data) to SD Card without rooting.
4. The pre-installed Navigon maps stores maps on internal SD card, which will preclude use in US or Europe where maps are much larger than my home country Australia.
5. Only apps that appear to use external SD card are inbuilt music and camera. Presumably many larger apps or games will not be useable on this phone. Sony music unlimited will not offline sync with the external SD card, have read that spotify won't either.
6. Seems to be a general issue with latest Samsung phones, but at least the likes of S3 and Note 2 have minimum 16GB of memory to play with, 2GB is just not enough.
7. As an aside, I'm also wondering if the 997D supports DLNA out of the box ?
Wondering if the 997D has the same memory limitiations ? Thinking of returning the galaxy s duos and trying to source a 997D (not easy from Australia).
I'm generally happy with the galaxy s duos, performance is as expected, size, screen and dual sim function are good. However, getting somewhat concerned that I will run out of SDCard storage very quickly with these limitations. Already consumed more than half just by installing basic applications I need for my job.
Looks to me like Samsung should not be selling these ICS+ android phones with anything less than 8GB of available internal memory if they're not able to install apps onto the external SD Card.
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The 4GB you talk of also include internal storage, so you'll never get the full 4GB for user data, and the same applies to 997D and almost any other Android phones. Galaxy Note II doesn't let you use the full 16GB, either.
And now, the other questions:
997D has mass storage, MTP and PTP modes.
Apps are moveable to the sd card, regardless of the root status
The external sdcard is directly mounted under /sdcard, so no problem with GPS navigation software or any other apps.
I think 997D does support DLNA, but I can't be sure, since I haven't tested it myself.
jman0 said:
The 4GB you talk of also include internal storage, so you'll never get the full 4GB for user data, and the same applies to 997D and almost any other Android phones. Galaxy Note II doesn't let you use the full 16GB, either.
And now, the other questions:
997D has mass storage, MTP and PTP modes.
Apps are moveable to the sd card, regardless of the root status
The external sdcard is directly mounted under /sdcard, so no problem with GPS navigation software or any other apps.
I think 997D does support DLNA, but I can't be sure, since I haven't tested it myself.
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Thanks for the information. While I realise a lot of cheaper android phones have restricted internal SD card space, now that Samsung or Google (and assume other vendors will follow suit) are restricting ability to run apps from the external SD Card with ICS and above, 4GB (less whatever the system takes up) is no longer enough for even the most basic android phones. Shouldn't have to root the phone just to load a few apps, maps or synchronise some music offline from a streaming service.
If available, 997D is looking like a much better choice at this point than the Samsung S Duos.
Hello guys !
After searching the online shops for a new android phone i found this dual sim Alcatel, really nice hardware for this kind of money , unbeatable i´ll say ..
I have some questions for you about this phone because i never used a dual sim phone before .
So , can you tell me if the dual sim thing affects the batery usage more than a non dual ?
Another question is about the ´´onscreen buttons for home´´ .. how is it compared to the ´´standard´´ hardware/touch sensitive buttons ? i´m wondering about touching them by mistake when you´re using the phone on browsing/gaming etc .
Thank you in advance .
Of course, having two sims takes more battery power than only one, but I can confirm, since I've been using this phone for a month now, that battery life in the 997D is more than adequate. I'm using the two sims everyday, and with moderate use (2 hrs. of music playback, some 3G browsing and about 1 hr. talk time everyday) mine lasts for almost two days.
Anyway, are you gonna use one or two sims? If you just use one, it doesn't matter how many slots the phone has, since it will only be operating one sim.
By the way, my usage also includes having the mobile data on 2G most of the time, since things like whatsapp don't need much bandwidth to work. When I really need the speed to browse the web or get an app from google play, I switch to 2G and then back to 3G when I'm done.
Yes, you can press the onscreen buttons by mistake, but that happens rarely. And they are as good and sensitive as the screen, and the screen on 997D is very good.
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e-compass
sbaragnaus_ said:
Hi, does the 997d e-compass works well? I've read in other forums it has a lot of problem.
Thanks
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I don't think e-compass have that much issues. If you're talking about erratic orientation to the north, most phones and especially tablets get this prob due largely to the magnetic covered cases on their devices, just like the protective case I have with my Galaxy tab, doing away with my magnetic case when navigating solves it. You can also fix its orientation by getting a compass app with orientation calibrating features.
Hi,
Anyone there have problem with download app more then 2m with mobile network data?Alcatel OT997D:crying::cryingownload fine with wifi any size of the app.Thanks
I bought the 997d, and I'm very happy.
toysnic said:
I bought the 997d, and I'm very happy.
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Can someone put a picture with the led notification for this phone?
sergiuhusca said:
Can someone put a picture with the led notification for this phone?
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LED notification ?
BTW I had the exact same problem as the OP.
I already have a Samsung Galaxy S3 I9305 with 2 GB ram and now in the end I bought the Alcatel for my GF since she wanted dual sim. I don't regret at all, I can assure you it's a great phone!
The screen is of course not as good as the Samsung flagship phone, but it's very decent. If I had to choose again between the Samsung Galaxy S Duos and the Alcatel, I would not hesitate a second! (And I'm more used to Samsung for everything: phone, tv, microwave etc)
The Samsung Galaxy S Duos is a rip off and a huge mistake IMHO (Too expensive, not enough ram and only single core). The Alcatel clearly wins compared to the Samsung. It boots very fast too (even faster than my S3). The battery is fine too for a smartphone and will of course always depend on what you do with it.
Furthermore the Android version running on it works very well and fluid overall. The stock contact/call apps seem to work faster than on the S3 and have all needed features (On the S3 sometimes there is a slight hesitation to open them). Crazy if you think about it. The Samsung own added software isn't that great actually if you look at the performance (feature wise it's fine of course).
I'm really a fan of Samsung in general, believe me! But the S DUOS is not what it should be at all!
EDIT: Now I think of it, there is one advantage of the S DUOS: the physical buttons. The virtual buttons make the usable screen a bit smaller unfortunately My S3 is clearly better in terms of available space on the screen.
But this is a non issue for this class of phone and I suppose on the S DUOS the screen size would disappoint a little as well when I compare it to my S3. Using the buttons however is not a problem in my experience, it's only the screen space that it takes away that "bothers" me.
sbaragnaus_ said:
Hi, does the 997d e-compass works well? I've read in other forums it has a lot of problem.
Thanks
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compass is fixed on latest vBF4-0 rom version.
Opinion after two months of use:
-smooth operation
-very good job dualsim
-very good job GPS;
almost all tested navigation
-battery with an average load can withstand two days
-seems immune to injuries
I hope the updates to JB 4.1
Value for money and work performance seems very beneficial.
This is my next dualsim, and I definitely recommend it.
I very eagerly await the next dualsim Alcatel Idol X
I saw that the M4 had lots of over heating issues with that new snapdragon processor.
I also saw that sony released a patch to solve that problem.
I was just wondering if it worked or if it is still too hot?
^Thats the main Question
I am interested in this phone becasue it is supposed to have great battery life but I assume if it generating so much heat the battery life isnt that great. Opinions?
I would not recommend the device, at least not the 8GB version. The tiny storage space i crippling at best... I can't even update apps because it thinks app data on the SD card is on the internal memory! As soon as the new nexus comes out I'm switching and throwing sony in the trash.
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I thought Sony would have released only a fix for the Z4 (Z3+ in EU) considering the S810 heat "problem" (disaster).
Actually, even the S615 becomes really warm too, but I do not believe that they will update even the medium range.......
I can't find anything on Sony's website about a patch. Do you have a link please?
I personally do not find overheating to be a problem. Yes the device gets relatively warm under heavy usage. Some may say that it is even hot but i don't find it too hot maybe because i come from another hot device - xperia s. I want to clarify that this happens only under very heavy usage like synthetic 3d benchmarks, heavy games or heavy navigation programs. For multimedia there is absolutely no problem.
Kezyka said:
I would not recommend the device, at least not the 8GB version. The tiny storage space i crippling at best... I can't even update apps because it thinks app data on the SD card is on the internal memory! As soon as the new nexus comes out I'm switching and throwing sony in the trash.
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I was planning to buy the 16GB version so I assume that would be recommended? I was planning to dump a random SD card in there as well for pictures etc.
allornuthin said:
I was planning to buy the 16GB version so I assume that would be recommended? I was planning to dump a random SD card in there as well for pictures etc.
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16GB version should do fine
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I can't find anything on Sony's website about a patch. Do you have a link please?
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It was the carrier store sales person who said a patch was being released but didnt know its effectiveness. I also cant find any reference to it online upon looking so maybe he was crazy.
They only sell the 16gb version but the people at the store were also saying that they have had lots of returns for overheating issues. Talking to you guys there seems to be no overheating. :S
He was recommending a different phone at the same price so it wasnt for upsale
I bought the 16gb E2306 version about 1 week ago and till now i did not have any issue with the heat
aamm just when i use the camera for long time or chrome about 30-45 minutes
but with normal use or when i play games like real racing 3 or modern combat 5 doesn't heat up a lot just the normal
My m4 dual over heats and drains the battery very fast. Using just chrome and whatsapp over wifi, battery lasts only maybe 5 hours. With brightness on lowest. And the top back of the phone gets hot.
Also GPS is always on. I have to disable it to stop it. And the screen brightness adaption doesn't work properly. Seems to want to be always bright.
It seems processor is just doing stuff for no reason making heat and draining battery.
I've used z3c and z3c tablet. Both these last 2 days with similar moderate usage.
I got model E2312 firmware 26.1.B.1..85 bought in Malaysia.
Kezyka said:
I would not recommend the device, at least not the 8GB version. The tiny storage space i crippling at best... I can't even update apps because it thinks app data on the SD card is on the internal memory! As soon as the new nexus comes out I'm switching and throwing sony in the trash.
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But besides the low memory on the 8gb version, you don't have any overheating issues?
Hope it will help you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/m4-aqua/development/root-change-cpu-temp-limits-maybe-t3233976
My Xperia M4 overheats within 30 seconds of me turning the Bluetooth on. When I say overheats I mean the front and back become too hot to touch and it takes a long time to cool back down. I've had the phone for around 6 months and the problem only recently occurred is there anything I can do?
Get the Opera browser and set the image quality to low. You will note a serious drop in temperatures. Ditch the Chrome browser.
Fixing Heating issues tips
Following may help you to reduce heat level of your m4 aqua:
Disable unwanted Functions/features like Bluetooth & Location Settings.
Use of 4G and 3G Data for long time.
Many running apps simultaneously.
Non-genuine battery.
You can also see more diagnosing tips for your issue in Sony Xperia M4 Aqua Manual - guideusermanual.com/product-name-xperia-m4-aqua-manual&po=608173&lang=English. Keep it up!!
Hello there,
I mainly want this tablet only for two purposes, one is browsing and another is watching movies.
But i just came to know that this tablet has an aspect ration of 4:3 and watching movies in this tablet will cause the movies to end up with two black spaces on either side.
Will this take away the experience of watching a movie? Other than from Browsing(which i'v heard this tablet is very good) my main usage is at watching Youtube videos and Movies.
Can any of you be kind enough to tell me about these and if this tablet is still good enough to purchase?
Regards,
Adi4u4882
I have this tablet. Its great. Had I known it would NEVER get updated to Android 5 or Android 6.. I would never have bought it. Dont be deceived by the updates it gets now. Those are just APP updates. Since it launched what about 2 years ago now its still on Android 4.4.4.
I would buy something else.. In the long run its worth it.
I have bought this tablet for my wife. Good thing was that i had few days for myself to test it. The big worry was that it will come all in China language and no Play store. As it turns out not to worry. There was English as default (even Polish was an option) and there was Google Play. All works superb. For this price its a bargain of the year. My wife use this tablet for imgur, google books and games so she is more then happy.
The only small problem... If you ever will want to do factory reset you need to have a google keyboard app ready. After FR there is no keyboard at all... so you cant connect to wifi and you have to have app on the sdcard.
Thats all from me.
For somebody who is not bother with the old software (kitkat) then this is a perfect tablet.
Zeblade said:
I have this tablet. Its great. Had I known it would NEVER get updated to Android 5 or Android 6.. I would never have bought it. Dont be deceived by the updates it gets now. Those are just APP updates. Since it launched what about 2 years ago now its still on Android 4.4.4.
I would buy something else.. In the long run its worth it.
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Hey, can you explain what you mean? As far i know, Miui 7 was released sometime now and its based on Lolipop. Its available for Mipad here-> http://en.miui.com/download-229.html
What he means is that MIUI 7 for MiPad is based on KitKat.
Ya for watching movies it is a little odd one. In case of YouTube it's fine
Then about KitKat OMDG PLZ its crap
Don't know whether you are a nerd or not..... Any way its been 2months iam using it and here is my verdict
Pros:
1. Blistering performance
2. Nvidia CPU and GPU are doing best for a hand
held device.
3. Gaming is a whole new level
4. LG battery is a true power source for long time and
charge up quickly
6. Display is decend under direct sunlight.
Cons:
1. selecting Bluetooth from multiple windows closes
most of the time.
2. Brightness sometimes have its own idea about
changing to full blast ( don't say that auto
brightness is on or off ,I know well about how it
works)
3. Background app has limit ( even developer option
only gives choosing between number limits and
standard limit)
4. Background apps stops most of the times ( even
the second one in background stops occasionally)
5. Connecting to internet via Bluetooth devices has its
own mind about disconnecting all the times.
6. Camera didn't work always, its not stock camera
app, all apps for camera won't work occasionally
which inturn points culprit as nasty hardware
problem
7. All keys on bezel (back,home,multiple window) are
not good in response which is an inconvenience .
(you can use many soft key apps instead which
iam using now)
8. Mi Ui is not good(awful) which always take quiet a
time to load up if we prefer to go home directly.
9. Screen shot appear as a widget not a combination
keys which is inconvenient and annoying many
times
10. Entire system some times ( once in
thousand) slows in terms of performance.
11. Quiet a lot of heat builds up on gaming.
12. Last not least....... OMDG plz get rid of the that
stupid KitKat OS plz plz plz.....
naseeb sha said:
Ya for watching movies it is a little odd one. In case of YouTube it's fine
Then about KitKat OMDG PLZ its crap
Don't know whether you are a nerd or not..... Any way its been 2months iam using it and here is my verdict
Pros:
1. Blistering performance
2. Nvidia CPU and GPU are doing best for a hand
held device.
3. Gaming is a whole new level
4. LG battery is a true power source for long time and
charge up quickly
6. Display is decend under direct sunlight.
Cons:
1. selecting Bluetooth from multiple windows closes
most of the time.
2. Brightness sometimes have its own idea about
changing to full blast ( don't say that auto
brightness is on or off ,I know well about how it
works)
3. Background app has limit ( even developer option
only gives choosing between number limits and
standard limit)
4. Background apps stops most of the times ( even
the second one in background stops occasionally)
5. Connecting to internet via Bluetooth devices has its
own mind about disconnecting all the times.
6. Camera didn't work always, its not stock camera
app, all apps for camera won't work occasionally
which inturn points culprit as nasty hardware
problem
7. All keys on bezel (back,home,multiple window) are
not good in response which is an inconvenience .
(you can use many soft key apps instead which
iam using now)
8. Mi Ui is not good(awful) which always take quiet a
time to load up if we prefer to go home directly.
9. Screen shot appear as a widget not a combination
keys which is inconvenient and annoying many
times
10. Entire system some times ( once in
thousand) slows in terms of performance.
11. Quiet a lot of heat builds up on gaming.
12. Last not least....... OMDG plz get rid of the that
stupid KitKat OS plz plz plz.....
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Ty for the post mate, i was thinking to buy the device but i was hoping that miui 7 is based on Lollipop (that apparently itsnot) and that the tablet could be a bit more solid. I will check for something else, take care
As far as device being stuck with KitKat -- are there any specific apps you wanted to run on the tablet and couldn't because they require the newer OS?
Without going the CM route, can the Google Launcher be installed on it?
Funny enough that my wife did want this tablet to be her candy crash saga device she couldnt install it from playstore. We had to download an older version and put the apk on the device and then i installed. Apart from that all the apps she is using on htc one (LP) she is using on MIPad
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Hey, can you explain what you mean? As far i know, Miui 7 was released sometime now and its based on Lolipop. Its available for Mipad here-> http://en.miui.com/download-229.html
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Global Stable Build only. AFAIK it will still be based on kitkat.
Have it since its release.
Its fantastic .
Great sound for movies and music.
Runs any game smoothly.
Browsing is effortlessly.
Nice is nice , not to big not to small.
Overall if you want a tablet that will just perform without hiccups then this is a good option.
eventhough this device has cm12.1 port but still its not for daily driver. xiaomi doesn't even release the sources.
I was really looking forward to buying this device keeping in mind the specs & pricing. Cant really decide if i should buy this Mipad or wait for the Mipad 2.
So far the the Mipad 2 only offers a mild upgrade in terms of processor (whose gaming performance I'm totally unsure of) & build quality. Infact the lack of expandable memory slot rather makes want to avoid waiting for the mipad 2.
Although Mipad is stuck on Kitkat, the fine Nvidia gpu makes sure it can run any game you throw at it with ease. The real question is with the lack of updates from xiaomi, how long will mipad continue to be a master amongst gaming tablets ?
Please suggest me if I should buy this device or if there is anything better in the market around this price range, considering this device is almost 2 years old now.
You know what, as the micro-USB charging port on my Teclast P70 started to malfunction less than a year of use in, I've grown more fond of the Type-C connector. While wherever MiPad 2 being an upgrade over MiPad in terms of the raw power is arguable, the Type-C connector and newer OS would sway me to by a MiPad 2.
Yes
I'm regret too. Better buy NVidia Shield Tab. :crying::crying:
Its Great
Its a great device for media consumption , browsing , watching movies and playing games but not so good in terms of multitasking as MIUI is quite heavy and it has only 2GB ram but it does all other things smoothly without issues ! In this price range , atleast i think this is the best
adi4u4882 said:
Hello there,
I mainly want this tablet only for two purposes, one is browsing and another is watching movies.
But i just came to know that this tablet has an aspect ration of 4:3 and watching movies in this tablet will cause the movies to end up with two black spaces on either side.
Will this take away the experience of watching a movie? Other than from Browsing(which i'v heard this tablet is very good) my main usage is at watching Youtube videos and Movies.
Can any of you be kind enough to tell me about these and if this tablet is still good enough to purchase?
Regards,
Adi4u4882
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Simply put, NO. Nobody really mentions the overheat, the persistent lag throughout the UI, etc. I purchased this and the Redmi Note 2 together new and both have been a disaster. The Mi 3W was like the best thing in the world until the sim adapter ruined the sim pins. The Mi 4 was great although it overheated as well in Performance Mode, but performance wouldn't really drop because of the heat. The Mi Note was the love of my life until my son caused me to accidentally drop it two weeks after buying it.
Mi Pad? Terrible. It's nothing like MIUI on any other device. Heck, even the nice MIUI port for the Nexus 7 2012 and 2013 give those two LIFE. But this thing has been a disaster. The UI isn't smooth, not even browsing or typing. The heat? I mean I'm typing this all on it on Balanced Mode, brightness a little over half, no other apps running, no vibration, no sound and average room temp and it's already at 37.2° Celsius (98.96° Fahrenheit). Gaming? I think you can cook an egg on the back. It will throttle. Even ran the 3D Mark "Ice storm Unlimited" benchmark while hot a few days ago and it told me that the device was not at its best and should probably have some background apps closed or given time to cool down. Sure, not everyone wants to game on it even though the GPU was designed for that, but again, typing this up is giving it a bit of a struggle to keep its cool.
It is a beautiful device, and no device is perfect, but I really wouldn't recommend it. Thankfully the heat has not caused my battery to drain at the moment it is occurring (I have seen this with other devices I've owned), but heat + battery = problematic battery in a closer than expected future.
I really don't want to shart on your hopes, but when I read about it, it was a must have for me. Sadly, it was not what I expected.
*If its at a good price and SEALED NEW, sure go for it. But otherwise, big no.
IF IT IS A MI PAD 2, RESEARCH ISSUES FIRST.
Thanks for your candid response. Any potential Mi Pad *2* buyers may also want to consider the fact that Intel has recently decided to drop the entire Atom division (Mi Pad 2 is powered by Intel Atom X5-Z8500), so I wouldn't hold my breath for *any* Android updates for existing Atom-based products.
Has mi pad improved its software?
Its June 2016, has mi pad updates able to solve the heating and other issues till now or this is still a no buy?
Alternatively, is the cm-11 build stable enough for mi pad?
Cm11 is quite stable.
I use Cm11 and it'sfine overall. I get the occasional unexpected app closure but it's not an issue.
I use it for browsing, ebooks and youtube mainly.
Hope this helps.