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I'd be grateful if someone in the know would clue me in:
Stock Android, I believe since 2.0, has supported multiple Exchange sync accounts (at least for email sync, and probably contacts). Running the
Android emulator on the desktop, I can configure as many accounts as I please.
However... I just took delivery of a Samsung Fascinate (Verizon) and as hard as I try, I can't make it configure a second account (it dumps me into the 'edit' UI for the first account when I ask to create a second one).
So I tried an HTC Incredible that we have here. Same behavior !
Yet, when I Google search 'samsung galaxy s multiple exchange accounts', I find a bunch of people claiming to be using multiple accounts.
What's up with this? Am I just not doing the setup correctly, or did Samsung remove this capability from the devices recently ?
I also figured I could install the stock Android email app as a workaround, but that doesn't exactly seem to be a 'one-click' process. K-9 has no ActiveSync support, so that isn't useful.
Can't speak for anyone else, but I have yet to see any Android phone that supports multiple Exchange accounts out of the box. That's one of the reasons I bought Touchdown, as it supports multiple Exchange profiles. Of course, only one of them can be active at a time, but if I needed to have two accounts active simultaneously, I could use Touchdown for one, and the stock email app for the other. Oh, and just FYI, I didn't mean for this to become a Touchdown advertisement. ^^;
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Actually, I have a Touchdown license so this is a good plan.
Presumably the situation is this : stock Android supports multiple accounts but none of the device vendor skins do, yet. Correct ? (and it isn't possible to manifest the stock Android behavior side-by-side with the vendor skin).
I was just coming in here to ask this question. I would like a way to get multiple exchange accounts too. Since it was supported in 2.0 on up i think we should be able to get this to work. Unless Samsung messed this up for us.
Hmm, I thought Sammy left the stock Android email app on the Fascinate, but it looks as though they modified it just enough to cripple it. :-(
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There are actually good reasons NOT to do this. Corporate IT admins have massive problems with this, and because Google/Sammy/etc. are actually TRYING to work with corporate IT... you end up with this.
Outlook doesn't allow it either, nor does any other mail program which respects Activesync conventions.
It has to do with security... and compartmentalization.
The Droid X and the Droid supported 2nd Exchange accounts.
I'm sorry, but I disagree that this is a security issue. They are completely disparate accounts, and this functionality should be stock on all Android phones.
That said, the Samsung client is the worst of all of them, and Touchdown is the best option, IMHO.
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There are actually good reasons NOT to do this. Corporate IT admins have massive problems with this, and because Google/Sammy/etc. are actually TRYING to work with corporate IT... you end up with this.
Outlook doesn't allow it either, nor does any other mail program which respects Activesync conventions.
It has to do with security... and compartmentalization.
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Oh, really? That's interesting. I work on the helpdesk for an IT company that hosts Exchange servers (and much more) for dozens of clients, including numerous medical and financial institutions (i.e. security is a significant concern), and I have never heard about any such security issue. Please explain to me how being able to setup multiple Exchange accounts on a single device is such a huge security concern, and include links to references if possible, as I may want to present the information at our security meeting, which I'm actually attending tomorrow. No joke, that's my job, and I am on the security team.
Btw, Microsoft themselves eliminated the single Exchange account limitation with Outlook 2010. It's still not unlimited, but you can now have three Exchange accounts per Outlook profile. Oh, and did I mention that iOS 4 now also supports multiple Exchange accounts per device? So yeah, if you have any links to share about these alleged security nightmares, feel free to enlighten me.
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That said, the Samsung client is the worst of all of them, and Touchdown is the best option, IMHO.
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While I tend to agree with you, I'd like to point out that I haven't seen any issues with actually reliably syncing with an Exchange server with the Fascinate, whereas the mail client on the original Droid was plagued with bugs, and while it improved later on, one of the more recent post-Froyo patches broke the ability to sync with Exchange 2010 (which has since been fixed).
Also, if I remember correctly, the helpdesk I work on got a bunch of calls from clients who bought the Droid X when it first came out, because it couldn't sync with Exchange 2003, which was a pretty serious bug. Motorola had apparently tested it thoroughly with Exchange 2007 and 2010, but never with 2003. It was so bad that they were giving away licenses for Touchdown for free to anyone that complained, until they were able to issue a patch for it.
Anyway, no mail client is perfect, and all have their pros and cons. Which stock one is better or worse depends on whether the features that don't work right matter to you or not. Me, I'll stick with Touchdown, which basically mops the floor with the stock mail clients, just in sheer volume of features alone.
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IOS 4, android 2.* and up and WP7 all support multiple exchange accounts. Unfortunatley Samsung messed this up for us.
I wonder if there is a way to pull the AOSP e-mail.apk and try that? Or if there would be another way around this.
Since someone got a little cranky I will elaborate on the security problem.
The issue is largely one of partition. Let me paint a scenario...
I am government contractor x. I provide you with exchange on your phone. Your phone very helpfully merges all your data together. That violates my policies. Additionally, your android device doesn't respect remote wipe, remote lock, or security policy for disclaimers, password complexity, etc.
But the biggest issue is that the exchange data isn't self-contained.
If the phone, client, or whatever provides partitioning of the data then multiple accounts becomes a possibility.
Essentially I as an exchange admin don't want some other company's mail cross pollinating with mine. And because my company is in Massachusetts, it's actually a violation of state law at this point to let our emails into someone else's system.
Outlook 2010 supports separate cache files, contact lists, and all other data... So it can do multiple accounts. The iphone doesn't, and neither does droid.
I love my android phone, but I cannot let the end users have them, because we can't secure thee data. Full stop.
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And yes, ios 4 and some iterations of droid do allow this, but not in s way that is kosher with either microsoft or your mail admins.
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Hehe, I wasn't cranky. I just wanted some additional info to back up a rather vague, blanket statement about data security. I could go on to discuss security issues, but it looks like your concerns exist at a much higher level. If the Android platform as a whole is too insecure for you to allow, then whether or not a phone supports multiple Exchange accounts is irrelevant. That being the case, I won't draw this on much longer, as it's beginning to drift off topic.
Based on what you've listed as your security requirements, I believe Touchdown actually has a strong enough feature set to safely allow Android devices to work in your environment. It supports a healthy set of Exchange security policies, namely remote wipe, PIN/password policies, and complete data encryption (it even encrypts the data it stores on the SD card), and since it only allows one account per profile, and all data is contained within the application itself, and not mixed on the phone, the partition requirement is met. Plus, you can deploy a template that dictates desired config settings for the app, and locks them down to prevent users from changing them. Oh, and don't forget the added benefit of standardization, in that you would only have a single email app to support, regardless of which Android device end users have. The only real down side is the added cost, as it's extra software to buy. And for those wondering, no, I do NOT work for NitroDesk, the makers of Touchdown.
I apologize if I'm still failing to understand any of your points in all this. I do have an interest in security topics like this, and while I'm not completely ignorant, I'm by no means an expert either, not by a long shot. If you'd like to discuss this any further, feel free to PM me, so we don't get any further off topic in this thread. Thanks!
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Essentially I as an exchange admin don't want some other company's mail cross pollinating with mine. And because my company is in Massachusetts, it's actually a violation of state law at this point to let our emails into someone else's system.
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I have never in my life heard of this happening, nor is there any proof that it's technically possible. I get the whole concept of all data being on the same partition, but cross pollination? They are totally different accounts, with their own data stores.
If a companies security policy is this strict, they probably shouldn't have any phone connecting to their network, unless they have a device management tool in place that prohibits installation of any 3rd party apps unless they install them themselves. Oh and they should probably remove the camera too, if they're a government contractor with this much security in place.
I don't think the Fascinate was designed for a company like this.
Just to throw in my 2 cents. A division of the company i work for engineers nuclear plants and because of the strict government regulations only blackberries are permited because other platforms are not secure enough.
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I have never in my life heard of this happening, nor is there any proof that it's technically possible. I get the whole concept of all data being on the same partition, but cross pollination? They are totally different accounts, with their own data stores.
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Really? Your contact list isn't comprised of all the contacts from all the accounts? Do you keep strict track of which little yellow "new mail" envelope you've just pulled down? It can't happen? Think again.
If a companies security policy is this strict, they probably shouldn't have any phone connecting to their network, unless they have a device management tool in place that prohibits installation of any 3rd party apps unless they install them themselves. Oh and they should probably remove the camera too, if they're a government contractor with this much security in place.
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Yup. Guess why Blackberries are still the biggest corporate device? For exactly this reason. Why is there always a Blackberry variant with no camera? BINGO.
I don't think the Fascinate was designed for a company like this.
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No Droid or iPhone was.
Then why are we even having this conversation? We're talking about the Fascinate.
Also, we were talking about email, not contacts. Emails are stored in entirely different data stores. I don't have 1 giant inbox with emails from both accounts. They are totally separated.
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Then why are we even having this conversation? We're talking about the Fascinate.
Also, we were talking about email, not contacts. Emails are stored in entirely different data stores. I don't have 1 giant inbox with emails from both accounts. They are totally separated.
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Because Exchange isn't POP or IMAP. It's an entire comm system. It's not just mail, it's contacts and calendar and notes and public folders and a half dozen other things.
If you just want to sync the contents of two Exchange inboxes, sure there's no TECHNICAL reason you can't. But that's not how Exchange WORKS, typically. I'm sure you could write a client that does that, but as yet folks haven't.
You can go in and uncheck to sync the calendar and contacts, but new "events" will still arrive and have to be thrown out by the client. Essentially you would need to write MORE code to NOT have the entire system than you would to HAVE it.
I'm sorry but that isn't true. Like I said earlier, I was able to add more than one Exchange account - contacts, calendar, and email - on both my Droid and Droid X. One Exchange account for work, and the other a personal account through a hosted Exchange provider. There was no "cross pollination" between either account, and each had a completely separate inbox/data stores. So not only is it technically possible, the functionality is also available for use. Also, as a security professional, I think there are other real security concerns/vulnerabilities to focus on, than something that has never been proven to be one.
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I'm sorry but that isn't true. Like I said earlier, I was able to add more than one Exchange account - contacts, calendar, and email - on both my Droid and Droid X. One Exchange account for work, and the other a personal account through a hosted Exchange provider. There was no "cross pollination" between either account, and each had a completely separate inbox/data stores. So not only is it technically possible, the functionality is also available for use. Also, as a security professional, I think there are other real security concerns/vulnerabilities to focus on, than something that has never been proven to be one.
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I understand that you have done it before. I've done it too on an iPhone. My point is that the capability to do so is not something that comes pre-cooked in an Exchange client. MS didn't do it until recently themselves. Given that a lot of the stuff in the Fascinate is pre-2.1 due to Samsung's pidgin kernel (really a 1.5 or 1.6 kernel hacked up for 2.1, from what I've read on here) I'm not at all surprised that functionality only recently available is missing.
Like I said - it takes more code to do it than not to do it... don't hold your breath for it from Samsung, although anything is possible in 2.2!
I just got the Photon this week, it is my first Android device (coming from a TP2 w/Energy rom).
At work I use exchange server with lots of folders. Incoming emails are automatically (by rule) moved into their respective folders. With my old phone, I can tell that I have a new email in one of the many folders because that folder will be bold.
With my new Photon, I setup "corporate mail" and I only get notification of new emails in the INBOX only. If I want to check for new emails in one of the folders, I have to click on each folder and check to see what is inside, this is ridiculous b/c I have about 20 folders! The folders do not alert me of new emails within them like my crappy wm 6.5 device used to.
FYI in the folder sync options, I set the folders to "Background, Default" already.
I'm hoping someone can tell me I did something wrong! I particularly chose this phone since its advertised as a "business" phone. Hopefully there is a setting for this email issue... Thanks!!
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Hi, I'm a Sprint Launch Ambassador supporting the Photon. Are the folders that your emails are being moved to on the server or are they offline? If Outlook is automatically moving them to offline subfolders then the mail client on Photon has no way of knowing you have new mail. If the subfolders that Outlook is moving new mail to are online then let me know and I can do some testing on my own device to see if I can duplicate.
If you're a heavy Exchange user, I HIGHLY recommend investing in Touchdown. It's expensive @ $20, but worth every penny. It is the best Exchange e-mail client out there and is extremely powerful. It also allows me to segregate my work e-mail from my personal e-mail (Gmail). Look into it, I believe there's a demo/trial that you can run with for 15 days.
"Incoming emails are automatically (by rule) moved into their respective folders."
mattvalenz, I can confirm that every Android unit i've used has never alerted me for this.
My Sprint HR folder is set up this way. It never hits the inbox, hence no alert. This is an Android thing, but I'm not sure if there is a way to set up syncing properties of that particular folder to alert when the rule is used and it dumps an email there.
It's something I've never really looked into.
Other than that, since all 150+ emails a day from everyone else for me are so different, they all flush to my main inbox so I get an alert.
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If you're a heavy Exchange user, I HIGHLY recommend investing in Touchdown. It's expensive @ $20, but worth every penny. It is the best Exchange e-mail client out there and is extremely powerful. It also allows me to segregate my work e-mail from my personal e-mail (Gmail). Look into it, I believe there's a demo/trial that you can run with for 15 days.
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I've never known any Android device to mix Google and Exchange accounts. Even the Photon natively segregates Gmail from the Universal Inbox.
Do you by any chance have your Gmail account set up as POP? That is the only way it would even be conceivable that Gmail would end up in the Universal Inbox. At any rate, HTC Sense keeps all inboxes segregated... I wish the Moto UI allowed for this.
In response to the OP, I can give you this insight: I'm an Exchange administrator, and inbox rules such as you have set up are not supported by Android (or the iPhone for that matter), but Windows Mobile does have the necessary extensions to support Inbox rules. They're both Microsoft products, and proprietary at that
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Hi, I'm a Sprint Launch Ambassador supporting the Photon. Are the folders that your emails are being moved to on the server or are they offline? If Outlook is automatically moving them to offline subfolders then the mail client on Photon has no way of knowing you have new mail. If the subfolders that Outlook is moving new mail to are online then let me know and I can do some testing on my own device to see if I can duplicate.
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They are on the server. If it helps any, my exchange server is hosted online (www.sherweb.com).
As a temporary fix, I changed the rule so that it "placed a copy" of the email into the respective folders. This keeps an email in the inbox, but it defeats the purpose of keeping my inbox clean...
Beknatok said:
If you're a heavy Exchange user, I HIGHLY recommend investing in Touchdown. It's expensive @ $20, but worth every penny. It is the best Exchange e-mail client out there and is extremely powerful. It also allows me to segregate my work e-mail from my personal e-mail (Gmail). Look into it, I believe there's a demo/trial that you can run with for 15 days.
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Thanks, I'll give it a shot. Doesn't sound promising given the posts regarding the being MS proprietary-ness.
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I've never known any Android device to mix Google and Exchange accounts. Even the Photon natively segregates Gmail from the Universal Inbox.
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You can if you use k9-Mail, but not by default, on which you are correct. My bad for not being clearer.
I'm glad to see that i'm not the only one with this problem.
My email server is comcast. We use cached exchange mode. No idea what the means. But I can use outlook on any network. The rules exist server side. I am able to see the new email in folders but I get no notifications.
Neither Touchdown or K9Mail are a viable solution. Touchdown is too expensive when I only get 5-10 (albeit important) emails a week, and I don't recall it really doing a good job of notifications. I tried K9 but it also does not properly notify, and it is EXTREMELY convoluted and difficult to use, and I'm a power user.
Why can't someone just write an app that watches those folders and notifies the user of email, or better yet why can't google just make their exchange app work right?
My evo used to notify me on subfolders. Not photon though.
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I ended up purchasing touchdown. The price didn't bother me as I'm a heavy exchange user for my own business. The principal of the matter bothered me though-- Photon was advertised as a business phone yet it has such a simple yet important feature missing. I really regret purchasing the photon, wish I got an HTC phone instead.
Counting down the days my 2 years is up!
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I ended up purchasing touchdown. The price didn't bother me as I'm a heavy exchange user for my own business. The principal of the matter bothered me though-- Photon was advertised as a business phone yet it has such a simple yet important feature missing. I really regret purchasing the photon, wish I got an HTC phone instead.
Counting down the days my 2 years is up!
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did u try K-9? open source and free
my sub folders send alerts
http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/downloads/list
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I am re-posting this from another user on a different forum. He/She wrote exactly what I wanted to say so why change it?
The major shortfall of Android ICS is the inability to handle standard Internet Calendar Sharing (ICS) meeting requests (calendar invitations) sent via email.
Every other platform in the world seems able to handle a meeting invitation sent from a calendar application, whether that is from Microsoft Outlook (worldwide standard in the business world), an iCal file from an Apple device. The web-based version of gmail correctly handles calendar invites and prompts one to respond with a "Yes/No/Maybe" reply.
The native Android gmail app shows either just a blank email or sometimes the text details of a meeting invite. There is no ability to respond to the meeting request. Instead, Android places the item on the Calendar and expects the user to respond to it there. The problem with this approach is the one needs to know where to look on the calendar.
A Google search shows that this has been a known issue for years, yet Google does nothing about it.
Short of ditching the native gmail app for a functional third-party app, how can one enable gmail to handle meeting requests the way every other email application does?
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What I want to know is how a black and white screen BlackBerry from the stone ages can read and reply to meeting requests yet my dual-core, multitasking juggernaut of a phone can't preform this simple function. How on earth can Android/Google turn off business users like this??? I am aware that some 3rd party apps on Android do provide this function but they all require you to connect to an exchange server! W T F Google??????
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I am re-posting this from another user on a different forum. He/She wrote exactly what I wanted to say so why change it?
What I want to know is how a black and white screen BlackBerry from the stone ages can read and reply to meeting requests yet my dual-core, multitasking juggernaut of a phone can't preform this simple function. How on earth can Android/Google turn off business users like this??? I am aware that some 3rd party apps on Android do provide this function but they all require you to connect to an exchange server! W T F Google??????
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My sensation seems to handle it ok. And im not using exchange.
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What email app?
dunno what's wrong with my ics but its working fine here, im getting invitation popups and i can respond yes/no/maybe. it seems though that the mail itself is rawtext if you open it, but the invitation will be triggered when the time is proper.
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dunno what's wrong with my ics but its working fine here, im getting invitation popups and i can respond yes/no/maybe.
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Same here, got no problems.
jets76 said:
I am re-posting this from another user on a different forum. He/She wrote exactly what I wanted to say so why change it?
What I want to know is how a black and white screen BlackBerry from the stone ages can read and reply to meeting requests yet my dual-core, multitasking juggernaut of a phone can't preform this simple function. How on earth can Android/Google turn off business users like this??? I am aware that some 3rd party apps on Android do provide this function but they all require you to connect to an exchange server! W T F Google??????
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Not sure what caused your issues. I've had invites and responded from the following without problems:
1. Lotus Domino
2. MS Exchange
My systems:
1. Plain Gmail and Gmail calendar (for personal stuffs).
2. Google Apps Gmail and Google Apps Calendar (for business stuffs).
Hope that helps.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Are you saying that in the Android phone's gmail app you get meeting request emails and have the YES/NO/MAYBE buttons available? If YES are you using and ms exchange server? If NO, did the person send the request from a gmail email address?
Invitation Plugin
Check if Invitation Plugin application can solve your issue. It opens ics invites in default calendar where you can accept/decline event.
You can get this app on Google Play:
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cleansoft.invitationplugin
For it to work you need to enable 'Automatically add invitations to my calendar' setting in Google Calendar
support.google.com/calendar/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=83117
It requires Android 4.0+ (Ice Cream Sandwich)
Hope that helps.
(Sorry I cannot post links yet just add http to urls)
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Hi all,
I witnessed an issue regarding all android phones/versions between 2.1-4.2 without any solution, and I couldn't find any thread that talks about it in the proprietary+google search.
The issue: pic's get cropped, and I'm forced to click the "can't view properly? click here" link to the web page.
Here's a screeenshot:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1-naiwBRz1aRlprYWNyUmNWMDA/edit?usp=sharing
The issue isn't for all mails, and there are some mail that can be viewed properly within the Gmail app itself.
I'm currently running the latest Gmail app as you can see with the top nav buttons.
Anyone else experiencing this issue ?
Go into : Menu -Settings - General settings - Auto -fit messages. Check it, and back out. The message should now be entirely seen in the screen. To Zoom in just tap the screen, or use the two finger spread method.
Tried that already...just forgot to mention.
any other ideas?
It's something a bit more complicated than a just a setting or wrong usage.
Other than that, the only other thing I can suggest is to unistall mail. Then reinstall.
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MikROMs Since 3/13/11
Thanks again for your answer !
Well I've uninstalled the gmail several times when tried the leaked Gmail apps(the first one that supports swipe to archive+pinch to zoom, and obviously the last one who supports the new tabs interface).
I'll just mention it's not a specific problem but cross device and cross android+Gmail versions.
I tried every version of android/gmail combo(forwarding lots of mail to friends etc) but each time they all get the same problem.
The only thing I figured out who kinda gave me an alternative is use the stock mail client and not the gmail one, but in that case I'm loosing lots of the Gmail app functionality.
This is really something that just myself noticed? this is not one mail or a specific sender.
In the OP you mentioned that it does not happen on all your Gmail Email. Is it just from certain People / Companies ?
No, it's usually when I get promotion emails from my bank or some online shopping websites that uses big photos that are basically links.
Moreover, it's always from automated mails BUT I think that's only because I'm not receiving large photos in personal emails.
I would recheck settings. I know sometimes when I'm frustrated, I miss stuff.
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11
Thanks again for your effort, I'm really certain that I haven't miss an option as every new app version that releases I'm scanning all of the features.
Here's a screen shot of my settings, I've highlighted the only possible option that can affect this, by my understanding:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1-naiwBRz1aSU5od1hmOWtUT3M/edit?usp=sharing
BTW In case that I'm not clear enough with the issue I can forward(if you want to PM me with your mail) you one of those mails, I got lots of them. Of course if it's ok by you...
I'd love to hear any other ideas
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So I finally upgrade my LG simple 1G phone to a VZW Galaxy S4, allowed it to update to MK2, setup my gmail account (not G+ though), take care of organizing it like I want, etc. Next thing I notice, that in my gmail I start getting dangerous looking spam ("update your Amazon credit card info", "update your ###### info", and the image had a link which would've sent me to a Yemen domain. Nothing happens without a reason, and the only thing that changed was I gave the phone my gmail logon. I did not directly give account info to any of the other vendors advertised on the bloatware on this phone. I should add that prior to this I was familiar with the spam I'd get in gmail (and gmail would flag it into spam folder) and it was consistent and never made it into my inbox.
This being my first android I'd appreciate comments on your experiences with this, and anything you can share on how to better safeguard my info. I hate google, or anybody for that matter, having so much access to my credentials which I normally and successfully hold fairly close. (Yes this is my first smartphone).
I am a Malwarebytes registered user on my desktop and laptop so I downloaded their app onto my phone, but something tells me what caused this spammer to source me was over-sharing of data on google's (android's?) part.
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MessyPotamia ("because in the land between the Tigris and Euphrates, things are a MESS")
Huntsville, Alabama
I think its pretty safe to say its coincidence. My family owns about 5 Android devices and I myself have three Android devices currently in active use , two gmail account, one for my personal devices and the other for family use and so far, we have yet to get any 'weird' spam issues except for the occasional spam that promises me that I'll get bigger manhood and such. Try playing with the app settings or try another email app. I mean, if you have a gmail account all this while and google wants to sell off your personal information, they would have sold it a long time ago and not wait only now because you have a new smartphone right? Lol
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I think its pretty safe to say its coincidence. <SNIP> I mean, if you have a gmail account all this while and google wants to sell off your personal information, they would have sold it a long time ago and not wait only now because you have a new smartphone right? Lol
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Didn't mean that I think G directly sold it off, but something enabled a spammer to target me. Have been getting this same spam about 1x / day since I shared my 10 yr old gmail acct w/ VZW/I545/MK2. Something triggered it, I don't believe in coincidences (my prior CI work, sorry!), and the only thing that changed was my new setup.
Maybe its something that you've installed? Like have you pirated any apps or downloaded any sketchy apps? Besides that, I can't think of other ways besides logging in to your gmail account, and actively mark the emails from that address as spam.
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mha93 said:
Maybe its something that you've installed? Like have you pirated any apps or downloaded any sketchy apps? Besides that, I can't think of other ways besides logging in to your gmail account, and actively mark the emails from that address as spam.
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Two days later from my orig post. First, I have not downloaded any suspicious apps (only 2 banking apps, and they're pretty secure), one or two others from app store (but uninstalled them when I wasn't impressed). I set up my wife's yahoo email account as another account under email; one gmail account I use often as another email account; and my regular gmail account is the main phone account. My regular gmail account gets very little spam.
Now I notice my wife is getting evidence her contacts have been harvested, as folks in her contacts (some very old contacts) are replying "Did you send this? " or rejection messages from their .gov or .mil enterprise mail server. She has had registered malwarebytes on her laptop, as do I on mine. Tomorrow I will run CCleaner and HijackThis on both hers and mine. I must say the neither of us visit suspicious places or have any poor practices regarding opening emails or attachments, and our Secunia PSI scores are usually around 98.
This has to have something to do with my new Galaxy S4 and the fact that I gave it my gmail credentials, and her yahoo credentials.
This is not a coincidence.
After googling around, I came upon several forums stating that their users are getting spam mails after logging into their gmail accounts from their 'new' smartphones. So I guess your case is not unique. In all the cases, they managed to solve the problem by changing their gmail password. So what I'm thinking is that your phone is a 'manufacturer refurbished phone' or at least one that was returned to your carrier and repackaged again and that the previous owner left a malicious code or script in the phone. So short of returning to your carrier or to Samsung, I suggest that you change your password, factory reset your phone, update the firmware before logging in to your gmail account and see if it changes anything. The best bet is to return it to Samsung or your carrier on grounds that its a 'defective device' or at least claim that something is wrong with it. Chances are, they will reflash a fresh new firmware onto your phone and would in theory solve and delete any malicious code in your phone. Or they'll replace yours with a new phone. Yeah sounds troublesome but if you want to skip Samsung and reflash a new firmware yourself, head over to the S4 forums and see the method of flashing a new stock firmware. Sorry that your new smartphone causes so much problems. Google is quite helpful when its working right.
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mha93 said:
After googling around, I came upon several forums stating that their users are getting spam mails after logging into their gmail accounts from their 'new' smartphones.<<SNIPPED for brevity>> Google is quite helpful when its working right.
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The source of the spam is most assuredly the YAHOO MAIL ANDROID APP (downloaded 3 days ago from App store and put on her android, not mine). After running (reg'd) malwarebytes, plus CCleaner and HijackThis (all showed nominal) I began to suspect it was on Yahoo's side, and sure enough there are plenty of recent articles about their vulnerability. Removed the app from her Moto Droid.
I particularly enjoyed reading this:
[I can't post outside links, google the search terms "even-yahoo-employees-dont-use-yahoo-mail"]
Meanwhile, everyone here I thank for participating in this thread.