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Hi all,
Long time lurker of XDA and Android user/modder since before Gingerbread. I want to apologize in advance if this post is either in the wrong section, and/or if something similar has already been answered/solved in another thread. I did multiple searches with nothing coming up as a direct hit, or even close for that matter.
I recently purchased an S4 from VZW (Mid-Late July). I rooted and installed TWRP 5.2.0.2 (Forgive me if that's not the exact version...) and flashed AOSP ROMs here and there. After a month or so, I started coming across an issue within all ROMs where I couldn't receive or make calls without my phone either freezing or rebooting. Anything I flashed, or modded, failed to remedy this. I tried different GApps packages, 4.2.2 and 4.3 ROMs, different kernels, and both radios, and absolutely NOTHING solved this. I searched everywhere (Even rootzwiki, forgive me fellow XDA members!), and could not find anyone with the same issue.
I attempted upgrading to TWRP 2.6.0.0 and even tried CWM, and that didn't help either. Eventually, things got so bad that I couldn't boot into ANY ROM, 4.2.2 or 4.3. After nearly 10 hours of trying to unbrick my phone, I finally managed to install Beanstalk 4.3, and while it was working incredibly buggy (Not Beanstalk's fault, the developer is a great developer!) nor could I make calls, I could still send texts and emails. I was able to FINALLY get the Odin3 application to work when I got home from work, and was able to flash the stock MDK image. From there I followed the steps to properly root and install TWRP 2.6.0.0. I installed Slim's Beta 5 4.3 ROM and GApps and everything was working properly! Calling, everything! However, when I made a reboot, it froze. Stuck in the "Samsung Unlocked" screen for over an hour. I pulled the battery, booted into recovery and did a factory reset/cache and dalvik wipe. It still didn't boot. From there I did a full wipe, and data format, installed Beanstalks newest 4.3 ROM and GApps, and everything loaded properly. Then I couldn't make or receive calls without the same issue. I then did the superwipe/format and installed PAC's newest nightly and GApps package, and was able to make calls, but then got stuck when rebooting, even after factory resets and cache/dalvik wipes. After multiple attempts, I gave up and reflashed the stock MDK Samsung image in Odin3 and am leaving it as is until someone here can help me.
I know this post was incredibly wordy, and I apologize for that, but I wanted to give you guys as much information as possible and explain where this all started, as it may lead to why I'm having these problems. I appreciate any and all responses and I will answer any question any of you have to the best of my ability. Please someone save me from the horror that is TouchWiz!
-Travis
First, make a NANDROID if it is working perfect on the stock ROM. This is my first step after root and recovery so that I can always fall back on something to check if there is a hardware problem, or just some sort of (system) file problem. Plus, it'll save you time if you have to go back.
Not sure that it matters, but is the stock ROM odexed, or deodexed?
The calling thing reminds me of when you use the phone overseas but it has yet to be unlocked. When you root, do you check with Root Checker? Do you have SuperSU installed? How about BusyBox? I know some items require BusyBox in order to work, but SuperSU should be installed.
As far as SuperSU, do you update it before switching back to the original kernel? One thing I noted is to be absolutely sure you do so in order to not lose your root when completing the rooting steps. I imagine this could cause other problems too.
I also suggest not using TWRP 2.6, which many people will tell you is quite buggy. Best to use the previous version.
The only other things I can suggest is ALWAYS doing a full wipe of everything before adding a new ROM. I used to do this to be sure I incurred no problems on my SGS3, because if I didn't there would always be something buggy happening.
Hope this helps.
Heatshiver said:
First, make a NANDROID if it is working perfect on the stock ROM. This is my first step after root and recovery so that I can always fall back on something to check if there is a hardware problem, or just some sort of (system) file problem. Plus, it'll save you time if you have to go back.
Not sure that it matters, but is the stock ROM odexed, or deodexed?
The calling thing reminds me of when you use the phone overseas but it has yet to be unlocked. When you root, do you check with Root Checker? Do you have SuperSU installed? How about BusyBox? I know some items require BusyBox in order to work, but SuperSU should be installed.
As far as SuperSU, do you update it before switching back to the original kernel? One thing I noted is to be absolutely sure you do so in order to not lose your root when completing the rooting steps. I imagine this could cause other problems too.
I also suggest not using TWRP 2.6, which many people will tell you is quite buggy. Best to use the previous version.
The only other things I can suggest is ALWAYS doing a full wipe of everything before adding a new ROM. I used to do this to be sure I incurred no problems on my SGS3, because if I didn't there would always be something buggy happening.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you, Heatshiver!
I always do a full wipe unless I'm doing a dirty flash for a ROM update. I will try reverting back to TWRP 2.5.0.2 (Whichever version that happens to be, I think it's .0.2) tonight and report my results. Also, just to clarify, I always make sure I have the most updated SuperSU/Superuser (Usually the former) and BusyBox.
I appreciate the suggestion.
-Travis
teemunknee said:
Hi all,
Long time lurker of XDA and Android user/modder since before Gingerbread. I want to apologize in advance if this post is either in the wrong section, and/or if something similar has already been answered/solved in another thread. I did multiple searches with nothing coming up as a direct hit, or even close for that matter.
I recently purchased an S4 from VZW (Mid-Late July). I rooted and installed TWRP 5.2.0.2 (Forgive me if that's not the exact version...) and flashed AOSP ROMs here and there. After a month or so, I started coming across an issue within all ROMs where I couldn't receive or make calls without my phone either freezing or rebooting. Anything I flashed, or modded, failed to remedy this. I tried different GApps packages, 4.2.2 and 4.3 ROMs, different kernels, and both radios, and absolutely NOTHING solved this. I searched everywhere (Even rootzwiki, forgive me fellow XDA members!), and could not find anyone with the same issue.
I attempted upgrading to TWRP 2.6.0.0 and even tried CWM, and that didn't help either. Eventually, things got so bad that I couldn't boot into ANY ROM, 4.2.2 or 4.3. After nearly 10 hours of trying to unbrick my phone, I finally managed to install Beanstalk 4.3, and while it was working incredibly buggy (Not Beanstalk's fault, the developer is a great developer!) nor could I make calls, I could still send texts and emails. I was able to FINALLY get the Odin3 application to work when I got home from work, and was able to flash the stock MDK image. From there I followed the steps to properly root and install TWRP 2.6.0.0. I installed Slim's Beta 5 4.3 ROM and GApps and everything was working properly! Calling, everything! However, when I made a reboot, it froze. Stuck in the "Samsung Unlocked" screen for over an hour. I pulled the battery, booted into recovery and did a factory reset/cache and dalvik wipe. It still didn't boot. From there I did a full wipe, and data format, installed Beanstalks newest 4.3 ROM and GApps, and everything loaded properly. Then I couldn't make or receive calls without the same issue. I then did the superwipe/format and installed PAC's newest nightly and GApps package, and was able to make calls, but then got stuck when rebooting, even after factory resets and cache/dalvik wipes. After multiple attempts, I gave up and reflashed the stock MDK Samsung image in Odin3 and am leaving it as is until someone here can help me.
I know this post was incredibly wordy, and I apologize for that, but I wanted to give you guys as much information as possible and explain where this all started, as it may lead to why I'm having these problems. I appreciate any and all responses and I will answer any question any of you have to the best of my ability. Please someone save me from the horror that is TouchWiz!
-Travis
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sorry for your troubles, but I am always baffled the way people just toss that word "brick" round
Your phone was no anywhere NEAR being a brick...
You simply are playing with fire flashing AOSP ROMs and not knowing how to fix the issues.
AOSP ROMs aren't technically "made" for our phones, the developers do a great job at making it seem like they are, though.
On the SG3 we had an EFS backup that Synergy discovered incase you flash an AOSP and get stuck in roaming which was quite often at first with AOSP, that was easy to fix, but with this phone I would be careful with AOSP ROMs, even myself, with a locked bootloader wouldn't flash anything besides TW, although I am biased as AOSP is my flavor.
I am sorry if this post comes off harsh or any other bad word. It's not meant for that..
Just to kindly ask you to do some research on what a "bricked phone" truly is.
it's a brick.. meaning won't power on, won't get a light when charging, nothing, your phone is just that, a $600 brick. and the only way to bring back to life IIRC is Jtagging the phone.. which requires taking the phone apart and jtagging the motherboard.
I hope you the best my friend.
As much as I love AOSP, I would have to agree with the poster above. I know TW is a pain but there are some pretty good ROMs in that flavor that you shouldn't have any problems with. I've had the no call issue on AOSP, and even though they are nice and free up quite a bit of room it's not worth missing calls over or constantly flashing. Maybe once our bootloader is unlocked things will become different but I'd stick with TW until that happens. I can confirm that TWRP 2.6 is very buggy...you'll have to download the 2.5 version and flash it instead of goomanager they install they latest version everytime I believe.
andybones said:
sorry for your troubles, but I am always baffled the way people just toss that word "brick" round
Your phone was no anywhere NEAR being a brick...
You simply are playing with fire flashing AOSP ROMs and not knowing how to fix the issues.
AOSP ROMs aren't technically "made" for our phones, the developers do a great job at making it seem like they are, though.
On the SG3 we had an EFS backup that Synergy discovered incase you flash an AOSP and get stuck in roaming which was quite often at first with AOSP, that was easy to fix, but with this phone I would be careful with AOSP ROMs, even myself, with a locked bootloader wouldn't flash anything besides TW, although I am biased as AOSP is my flavor.
I am sorry if this post comes off harsh or any other bad word. It's not meant for that..
Just to kindly ask you to do some research on what a "bricked phone" truly is.
it's a brick.. meaning won't power on, won't get a light when charging, nothing, your phone is just that, a $600 brick. and the only way to bring back to life IIRC is Jtagging the phone.. which requires taking the phone apart and jtagging the motherboard.
I hope you the best my friend.
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Next time, I'll just say "Soft-bricked". Thank you for your reply.
-Travis
You also may want to try CWM recovery if everything else fails. I like TWRP but I kept having the exact problem you have. I switched and haven't had a problem since.
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slim6596 said:
You also may want to try CWM recovery if everything else fails. I like TWRP but I kept having the exact problem you have. I switched and haven't had a problem since.
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Would you mind telling me which version of CWM you're using? I haven't gone back to CWM since I went back to stock two nights ago.
Thank you for the idea!
-Travis
I also forgot to mention that I haven't been able to connect to 4G radios since before I started having issues with AOSP ROMs. Currently I'm on Eclipse's TW (With AOSP Styling) ROM. Everything appears to be working fine, other than 4G.
I've tried the SIM pull and reset, and nothing. I've tried manually setting it to LTE only, at least when I was able to do so when AOSP ROMs would boot for me, and nothing. I have a Galaxy Nexus that I booted up with this SIM in and I get 4G signal. Any Ideas?
Also, when I was on the stock image (MDK) I didn't have 4G either.
Has anyone else run across this issue? (MODS: Let a me know if I should create another thread, or search more intensively. I haven't seen a thread with this exact same situation. Plenty of 4G issue threads, but none with the same issues I've previously had, and I think it may have something to do with my past modding.)
-Travis
teemunknee said:
Would you mind telling me which version of CWM you're using? I haven't gone back to CWM since I went back to stock two nights ago.
Thank you for the idea!
-Travis
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Philz touch modded CWM. Don't have a link though. Sorry.
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slim6596 said:
Philz touch modded CWM. Don't have a link though. Sorry.
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Thanks! I installed CWM 6.0.3.6 Touch and flashed Eclipse's TW/AOSP ROM and everything works well, but it's still no AOSP ROM.
-Travis
Hi all,
I'd like to thank everyone for the suggestions.
An update: Currently I'm on Eclipse's TW v2.0 ROM (TW, with AOSP Styling) and everything works properly. My current recovery is CWM 6.0.3.6 Touch, and I'm not experiencing any booting or calling issues. 4G is the only thing I don't have working.
I'm hoping that someone with my same problem can give me another idea so I can get an AOSP ROM working, preferably with 4G. I'm sure some, if not most, understand my dislike of TouchWiz and strong preference towards stock Android/stock Android based ROMs. Slim6596 said that he uses Philz Modded CWM Recovery and has no issues anymore. Could that really be my solution?
Again, thank you all for your help and ideas. I love XDA for this reason.
-Travis
slim6596 said:
Philz touch modded CWM. Don't have a link though. Sorry.
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Hi Slim,
Sorry to bother, but I was curious if you were specifically using the LOKI patched version, or just the regular version?
-Travis
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Hi Slim,
Sorry to bother, but I was curious if you were specifically using the LOKI patched version, or just the regular version?
-Travis
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Loki patched, I believe.
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Loki patched, I believe.
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Thanks!! I installed the Loki-Patched version last night.
I tried flashing two AOSP ROMs, but have no radio signal at all. I'll experiment.
-Travis
teemunknee said:
Thanks!! I installed the Loki-Patched version last night.
I tried flashing two AOSP ROMs, but have no radio signal at all. I'll experiment.
-Travis
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I have stuck to TW ROMs. Pretty soon I'm probably not going to be flashing anything. Switching to Motorola and giving Vz my MDK S4 back. (Reception and dropped call issues.)
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teemunknee said:
Thanks!! I installed the Loki-Patched version last night.
I tried flashing two AOSP ROMs, but have no radio signal at all. I'll experiment.
-Travis
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I believe you have to do the extended phone function. Its a code on the dial pad and select cdma. I have read this but don't recall where.
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egore93 said:
I believe you have to do the extended phone function. Its a code on the dial pad and select cdma. I have read this but don't recall where.
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Are you referring to the *#*#4636#*#* dialer code? I didn't even try that because in my settings, everything was set to CDMA, but that's something I can try. I have everything backed up, so I can just wipe, install, and try that. If it doesn't work, I can always revert back.
Thanks for the suggestion!
-Travis
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Are you referring to the *#*#4636#*#* dialer code? I didn't even try that because in my settings, everything was set to CDMA, but that's something I can try. I have everything backed up, so I can just wipe, install, and try that. If it doesn't work, I can always revert back.
Thanks for the suggestion!
-Travis
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Yes that's it give it a go.
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So the other day my S3 gave up the ghost, and developed the hard-brick "QHSUSB_DLOAD" error. I have insurance so I was overnighted a new phone, and am sending the old one away. I believe this was related to a long-term power button issue I was having, perhaps a virus, or something. I had not changed anything to the ROM I was using since about October, and the issue just happened now in May.
At any rate, the new S3 I received is an MJB version, Android 4.3, Knox and all that other good stuff. After several failed attempts, I found a method to root this phone and disable Knox. The Warranty Bit is already tripped, so clearly I'm not sending this phone back until it hard bricks as well. I am trying to install the StockMOD ROM that is very popular, however I am being plagued by problem after problem.
I was able to flash a version of CWM Recovery onto my phone, but it was too old and couldn't mount any of the folders. Using ROM Manager, I was able to flash an update to my Recovery, and now it mounts and views all folders properly. However, when I go to install the StockMOD ROM, I continuously get a Status 7 error, something about "expects 5 args, got 3." I wiped the data, cache, and Dalvik, but kept getting this error. So, I had to recover my backup of stock, which didn't go well either. Once my backup was installed, all of my apps kept crashing. Gapps, ROM Manager, everything kept giving me constant FC errors. I had to wipe my data, cache, and Dalvik again and go back to factory default, and reinitialize the phone. Luckily I haven't installed anything of importance on here yet.
A quick search through here states that I need to use TWRP as my Recovery. I've flashed TWRP several times, first using the 2.6... version and then the most recent 2.7.0.0 version, and neither of these will mount any of my folders. It just gives me a litany of errors trying to mount the various locations. I've done Fix Permissions and everything else, TWRP will just NOT mount anything. Other folks say I need the latest PhilZ Recovery. I've downloaded the latest PhilZ Touch 6 and flashed it via Odin. It is giving me the same errors as regular CWM, Status 7, "expecting 5 args, got 3."
I don't know what else to do. My S3 that ran Android 4.0 was so much easier. I had that thing rooted and running a TW based ROM with Nova launcher in about 30 minutes. This phone has been a disaster since I turned it on. I'm just trying to get a 4.3 TW based ROM. I like the Samsung Camera, Calendar, Clock, Messaging, and Contacts apps far better than AOSP versions. But I also want much more customization to my notification drawer toggles. Stock TW doesn't have the toggles I use frequently like the data toggle as well as the torch toggle.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong, because unlike a lot of folks out there, once I find a ROM I like, I stick with it. I'm not constantly updating, changing, or searching for the newest version of Android. There's nothing wrong with that, it just isn't my cup of tea. So does anyone know what I need to do? At this point, I'm about to just give up and use Nova over top of rooted stock TW and call it a day.
Thanks!
Have you tried to go back stock rom using Odin ? I think it might resolve your recovery problem
nosphor said:
Have you tried to go back stock rom using Odin ? I think it might resolve your recovery problem
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Everything is stock except the recovery. I'm using CWM 6.0.4.7 with PhilZ Touch 6. I'm still using the stock TW 4.3 ROM that shipped with the phone. The only exception is that I'm rooted now.
I suggest you to go back to a 4.1 official stock rom with odin to be sure to have no more issue.
This can help you : http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/restore-to-stock-rom-galaxy-s3-i9300-t2187081
Also, don't forget to backup your apps with titanium backup and all your sms :good:
nosphor said:
I suggest you to go back to a 4.1 official stock rom with odin to be sure to have no more issue.
This can help you : http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/restore-to-stock-rom-galaxy-s3-i9300-t2187081
Also, don't forget to backup your apps with titanium backup and all your sms :good:
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Unfortunately, I've heard that it is not possible to revert to anything prior to 4.3 once a phone comes factory installed with 4.3, due to all of the security enhancements and etc. My kernel, modem, and baseband are all factory stock 4.3 MJB. Everyone else on the boards, under various other topics, warn of immediate and sudden death to the phone if you attempt to install a baseband prior to 4.3 MJB.
I'm very surprised to hear that, because recently i've flash stock 4.3 rom and then go back to 4.1.2 to flash a 4.4 rom without any issue and i've got nothing for issues.
Maybe it depends on which country you are ( i'm from France ) ? For what i know , there is a VERY little chance that this downgrade cause dammage to your phone
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I'm very surprised to hear that, because recently i've flash stock 4.3 rom and then go back to 4.1.2 to flash a 4.4 rom without any issue and i've got nothing for issues.
Maybe it depends on which country you are ( i'm from France ) ? For what i know , there is a VERY little chance that this downgrade cause dammage to your phone
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I'm in the USA. The security features on the I747 US version are far different. I don't know how everyone else is succeeding. I am completely lost.
You are in the wrong forum, anything you try from here will hard brick your phone.
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Sorry to tell you that, but what you say is not completely true.
Yes, there is a lot of people that rush to give an answer to the question, but there is also people that really like to help people that are in trouble :good:
Please, don't take most of the case for a generality
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756338
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Yes, i've read this, i know that, that's why i talk about the difference between country, different phone model
My apologies. Thought this was the 747 board. Go ahead and lock this, I'll repost in the correct forum.
Tried TWRP?
The phone has been working great on Android 4.1.2 as I describe in the thread ( Optimizing [Rom][I605VRAMC3][4.1.2])
Found Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-2-verizon/help/rom-optimizing-t2817294
EXCEPT NOW, every time I boot the phone, I get a message that says All the APPS are upgrading automatically . I think the problem is related to me Using Titanium Backup to Freeze SDM 1.0 . The reason I froze SDM 1.0 was to stop the Nag from Verizon for a firmware update .
Anyone know what I need to freeze to stop the auto upgrading on every boot? It really slows down the boot time.
Thanks in advance
You probably did this already, but double check to make sure Play Store is not set to Auto Update apps. Can. be found in Play Store. settings. I don't believe that freezing SDM would play a role here, but I've been wrong before.
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mattnmag said:
You probably did this already, but double check to make sure Play Store is not set to Auto Update apps. Can. be found in Play Store. settings. I don't believe that freezing SDM would play a role here, but I've been wrong before.
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Thanks , Play Store was set to auto update so I changed it , I just tried your suggestion and I rebooted . I'm still getting the same message while booting: Android is updating.............................................................................
doctor-cool said:
Thanks , Play Store was set to auto update so I changed it , I just tried your suggestion and I rebooted . I'm still getting the same message while booting: Android is updating.............................................................................
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Hmmmm.... It's probably still working on updating apps that it started working on previous to disabling the auto update.
This might work..... Toggle off your wifi and data, then try going to phone Settings, Application manager, All Apps... then force close the Play Store and wipe the app data. Then open the Play Store again and it should go straight to settings area. Set it to " Do not Auto Update apps " and then back out of Play Store, turn wifi/data back on, and go back into Play Store and sign into the app again/change any other settings back to how you like them . I hope that will stop the auto update.
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mattnmag said:
Hmmmm.... It's probably still working on updating apps that it started working on previous to disabling the auto update.
This might work..... Toggle off your wifi and data, then try going to phone Settings, Application manager, All Apps... then force close the Play Store and wipe the app data. Then open the Play Store again and it should go straight to settings area. Set it to " Do not Auto Update apps " and then back out of Play Store, turn wifi/data back on, and go back into Play Store and sign into the app again/change any other settings back to how you like them . I hope that will stop the auto update.
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Everything worked just like you predicted except when I reboot the phone it says "Android is updating 1,2,3..........................................88 ...................................
doctor-cool said:
Everything worked just like you predicted except when I reboot the phone it says "Android is updating 1,2,3..........................................88 ...................................
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For a test,
I cleared data and disabled the Play Store, Turned off data and wifi . REBOOTED I'm still getting the same message while booting: Android is updating.......................................... ...................................
Now I'm thinking the problem is due to me flashing Gapps.
I flashed (HDPI / MDPI / TINY: gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip) for Android 4.1.1 – 4.1.2 – Jelly Bean, from http://www.teamandroid.COM/gapps/
I probably shouldn't have flashed it on top of the official stock 4.1.2 Verizon ROM. I probably have two version of Gapps on my phone competing with each other. The quickest thing would probable be to re-flash to the OEM [Rom][I605VRAMC3][4.1.2]
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Everything worked just like you predicted except when I reboot the phone it says "Android is updating 1,2,3..........................................88 ...................................
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Ok.... I just realized that this has nothing to do with the Play Store App or updating your apps.... Your actual phone system is optimizing at boot screen.... like this pic, right?
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I'm not in any way a developer or expert.... this stuff is just a hobby for me...so please understand these are just my thoughts to hopefully help and not make things worse for you. With that said, I suspect you have an app or script (or something) that is doing something like wiping the Dalvik cache with each reboot, which is triggering your phone to run through the optimization process each time you boot. I am pretty confident this has nothing to do with SDM being frozen. I'm not sure about gapps with stock. Why do you need that if your running stock?
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Anyhow, What ROM do you recommend ? I'm using my phone to do Wave Accounting and Pay Pal transactions so I cant have down time.
doctor-cool said:
Anyhow, What ROM do you recommend ? I'm using my phone to do Wave Accounting and Pay Pal transactions so I cant have down time.
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Sorry for being off base with my initial thought on your above post... It's been a long week at work and I'm tired.... so that's my excuse...
I hope you get it sorted out with what's causing your phone to upgrade/optimize apps at each reboot. I did a Google search just now and apparently, this is common issue asked on XDA. I found several comments from people saying they think something causes the Dalvik/Cache to get wiped on reboot. I also read where someone reported that flashing Gapps did the same thing to them. If you're going to flash a new ROM, that should take care of the problem when you wipe things for the new flash.
On the XDA forums, it's generally frowned upon to ask for ROM recommendations. But for me personally, I have decided to settle (for now) on Beanstown106's JellyBeans ROM Build 22 which is based off of 4.1.2. I think this was the last 4.1.2 based Rom (for our SCH-I605's) that he did for his JellyBeans ROM before he moved on to developing for 4.3 MJ9, so I think a lot of the bugs were worked out of it.
I love the ROM and I've tried out several others. I always end up coming back to it because it's really stable and (pretty much) everything works. And with Xposed Modules and his built in options, I can tweak everything to how I like it.
You can still grab his older JellyBeans ROM build 22 by going to the current Alliance Rom Thread here: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032447 ), and then going to the "Downloads" area right above the thread title. The ROM Filename is: note2_JellyBeans_B22.zip.
There's tons of great ROM's for our phone and there's so many talented developers..... so I truly think you have to read through the threads on each of the ROM's to make a decision for your personal needs... but I know that JellyBeans Build 22 is very stable if that's what you're wanting. If you decide to try out JellyBeans Build 22, let me know if you need help with instructions for flashing it. I saved the install instructions for future reference when I flashed it the first time last year, but I don't see those old install instructions any place now that he's moved on to developing for the updated 4.3 build.
mattnmag said:
Sorry for being off base with my initial thought on your above post... It's been a long week at work and I'm tired.... so that's my excuse...
I hope you get it sorted out with what's causing your phone to upgrade/optimize apps at each reboot. I did a Google search just now and apparently, this is common issue asked on XDA. I found several comments from people saying they think something causes the Dalvik/Cache to get wiped on reboot. I also read where someone reported that flashing Gapps did the same thing to them. If you're going to flash a new ROM, that should take care of the problem when you wipe things for the new flash.
On the XDA forums, it's generally frowned upon to ask for ROM recommendations. But for me personally, I have decided to settle (for now) on Beanstown106's JellyBeans ROM Build 22 which is based off of 4.1.2. I think this was the last 4.1.2 based Rom (for our SCH-I605's) that he did for his JellyBeans ROM before he moved on to developing for 4.3 MJ9, so I think a lot of the bugs were worked out of it.
I love the ROM and I've tried out several others. I always end up coming back to it because it's really stable and (pretty much) everything works. And with Xposed Modules and his built in options, I can tweak everything to how I like it.
You can still grab his older JellyBeans ROM build 22 by going to the current Alliance Rom Thread here: ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032447 ), and then going to the "Downloads" area right above the thread title. The ROM Filename is: note2_JellyBeans_B22.zip.
There's tons of great ROM's for our phone and there's so many talented developers..... so I truly think you have to read through the threads on each of the ROM's to make a decision for your personal needs... but I know that JellyBeans Build 22 is very stable if that's what your wanting. If you decide to try out JellyBeans Build 22, let me know if you need instructions for flashing it. I saved the install instructions for future reference when I flashed the first time last year, but I don't see those old install instructions any place now that he's moved on to developing for the updated 4.3 build.
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Thanks and right on time, After I did my return to stock I thought I needed to wipe both caches' and the system to be able to do a Titanium backup.
I lost my operating system and Odin didn't recognize my phone, I was looking for a 4.1.2 zip file at the time I found your post. THANKS!
I'm downloading now
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Thanks and right on time, After I did my return to stock I thought I needed to wipe both caches' and the system to be able to do a Titanium backup.
I lost my operating system and Odin didn't recognize my phone, I was looking for a 4.1.2 zip file at the time I found your post. THANKS!
I'm downloading now
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When you say you returned to stock, I'm hoping you didn't ODIN flash a full stock version of 4.1.2, because that would have relocked your bootloader and removed the custom recovery and root. If you were able to use Advance wiping features, you must still have some sort of custom recovery on your phone.
Hopefully, you do so you can flash a zipped ROM back onto it. If you've still got an unlocked bootloader and have a custom recovery, you may want to try to flash this root/modified version of "stock" 4.1.2:
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261478 ). It was also made by Beanstown106 and the thread still has instructions.
Also, you may do some Google searching to find tips on how to get your computer/ODIN to recognize your phone in download mode again... the most common tips I've seen are to try to uninstall and reinstall the Samsung drivers on your computer...and to try different USB cables and different USB ports on the computer.
I'm exhausted and I'm going to bed, but here are the original install instructions posted by Beanstown106 for JellyBeans ROM Build 22 if needed.
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"(INSTRUCTIONS) YOU MUST BE UNLOCKED
Step 1-
Make sure u are unlocked
Step 2-
Wipe all(factory reset and davlick wipe) if coming from an old build
Step 3-
Install the Rom (flash it in your custom recovery)
Step 4-
Reboot and Enjoy!"
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Hope that helps. (Also, if Beanstown's stuff helps you... I'd encourage you hitting the thanks button for all his hard work )
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When you say you returned to stock, I'm hoping you didn't ODIN flash a full stock version of 4.1.2, because that would have relocked your bootloader and removed the custom recovery and root. If you were able to use Advance wiping features, you must still have some sort of custom recovery on your phone.
Hopefully, you do so you can flash a zipped ROM back onto it. If you've still got an unlocked bootloader and have a custom recovery, you may want to try to flash this root/modified version of "stock" 4.1.2:
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261478 ). It was also made by Beanstown106 and the thread still has instructions.
Also, you may do some Google searching to find tips on how to get your computer/ODIN to recognize your phone in download mode again... the most common tips I've seen are to try to uninstall and reinstall the Samsung drivers on your computer...and to try different USB cables and different USB ports on the computer.
I'm exhausted and I'm going to bed, but here are the original install instructions posted by Beanstown106 for JellyBeans ROM Build 22 if needed.
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"(INSTRUCTIONS) YOU MUST BE UNLOCKED
Step 1-
Make sure u are unlocked
Step 2-
Wipe all(factory reset and davlick wipe) if coming from an old build
Step 3-
Install the Rom (flash it in your custom recovery)
Step 4-
Reboot and Enjoy!"
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Hope that helps. (Also, if Beanstown's stuff helps you... I'd encourage you hitting the thanks button for all his hard work )
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Thanks I used JellyBeans ROM build 22 just to have a system so that I could get to Odin. Then I did flash the full stock version of 4.1.2 then I used the Casual method to unlocked the boot-loader and reinstall WIN recovery and root. As explained here http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-2-verizon/help/rom-optimizing-t2817294. ( I ran into some driver issues between Casual and Odin but they were resolved)
Actually I have three Samsung i605's.
I have one that has got all the Verizon OTA updates, never tampered with it's on 4,4,2.
I have the one we have been talking about I have restored it to the fully stock version of 4.1.2 with Root.
And the last one I am experimenting with DN3 (Ditto Note 3) for fun and knowledge.
doctor-cool,
That's great. Glad you got it fixed.
And that's pretty cool to have extra devices to work with. Must be nice.
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You will need to give a little more information to get some help.
Please include:
model of your phone
modem/baseband currently on your phone (settings, general,about phone)
firmware version (same location)
recovery installed (if you're currently rooted) or recovery attempting to use
root method being used
flashing steps taken
ROM or ROMs flashed
I know its a long list but it will go a long way towards getting the help you need.
Good luck
Note 3 sm900p lean kernel now I flashed Cm 11
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What exactly is your question? I don't actually see what you were trying to do and what went wrong.
One of the biggest problems that people have when trying to flash a 4.4.4-based ROM is that their bootloader is still based on NC5, not NH7. If you want to flash anything newer, you'll have to update your phone to NH7 before flashing a 4.4.4 ROM.
I put together this post when helping another person out on another thread. I think it'll work as a step-by-step guide for you:
I'll explain how to install a custom ROM and some common things to think about/check prior to installing anything:
Installing a Custom ROM
Step 1 - Gather Information
First off, you need to know what version of Android your phone currently is running. This is easily done by looking in the Settings Menu -> General -> About Device.
The Main things we are looking at on this screen are Software Version, Model Number, Android Version, and Baseband Version. I'll explain these (to the best of my knowledge) below:
Software Version:
This is the "type" of Android that you're running. Rather than quoting the entire name, we typically only refer to the last 3 characters (MJ4, NAB, NC5, etc.). Stock Note 3 devices will (most-likely) be running one of 3 different versions of TouchWiz (TW):
MJ4 - This is the last Jellybean version of TW for the Sprint Note 3NAB - This is the first KitKat TW version for the Sprint Note 3NC5 - This is the second KitKat TW version for the Sprint Note 3NH7 - This is the latest KitKat TW version for the Sprint Note 3
The reason that we are concerned with the Software Version is that between the MJ4 and NAB versions, there were major changes. So if you're running MJ4, you will have to do additional steps before flashing a custom ROM based on a newer version. And if you're on NAB or NC5, you will not be able to go back to MJ4, so beware what you're flashing.
For the most part, if you're on NH7, you can flash either a NH7 or NC5 custom ROM, but just read the ROM's FAQ to see if there are any issues with doing so.
Model Number:
Most people don't worry about this, but I always do when looking at a new ROM. The Sprint Note 3 is different from the Verizon Note 3, which is also different from the International Note 3. It's always best to double-check that the ROM you're trying to install is truly meant for your device. This simple check will prevent a LOT of potential issues you'll get when installing a ROM.
Android Version:
This is just an additional check to the Software Version. Always best to know.
Baseband Version:
The Baseband is, unless I'm mistaken, the "kernal" for the phone's cellular and 4G radios. Sometimes upgrading (or downgrading) the Baseband can help with signal strength and reception. Some users have noted that they got better reception on older Baseband versions. I haven't personally looked into it and the reports from other users seem somewhat anecdotal, but it's good to know which Baseband you're on.
The Baseband is independent from the ROM version, so you can run an older Baseband (MJ4 or NAB) on a newer ROM (NC5), and vice-versa.
The last bit of information you need to know is the Bootloader Version. The way to find this information is to reboot your device. When you see the text on the screen, you should look for the Bootloader Version. It'll be a long string of characters, but you're only looking for the last 3 (MJ4, NAB, or NC5).
Once you have all the above information, you should be ready to start the fun process of preparing your phone to flash your first ROM.
Step 2 - Backup your Media
First thing: Backup all of your media to your computer. If there's pictures/music/videos/recordings you don't want to lose, back them up. It's just good practice. Don't lose all your cat pictures because you flashed something and it somehow erased your internal storage. I tend to keep everything of importance on the External Storage, but there are times where even external storage can be wiped, so it's best to back up everything to a PC.
Step 3 - Upgrade your Phone to the latest Stock ROM (NH7)
This only is a MUST applies if you're running an older version and want to install a NH7 ROM. Most continually-developed ROMs are either NC5 or NH7 now, so the first things first: Update your phone to NH7.
Go over to micmar's thread and download the One-Click File. It will remove Root, but don't worry, because when you install a new ROM, it will automatically include root access.
Follow the instructions in his thread and your phone will now be fully upgraded.
At this point, your "About Device" should show the following:
Software Version: N900PVPUCNH7
Android Version: 4.4.4
Baseband Version: N900PVPUCNH7
Reboot your phone and let it sit for a minute so it can get it's bearings.
Step 4 - Install a Custom Recovery
So far, we've been flashing everything in ODIN. Now, we're going to use ODIN one last time to flash a custom recovery, so that you can flash custom ROMs without the need of a computer.
The most-commonly used Custom Recovery is TWRP (XDA Link). You'll want to use the latest version, 2.8.0.
Flash this in ODIN. You should use the "PDA" or the "AP" Slot.
Reboot your phone to make sure it works correctly.
Step 5 - Make a Nandroid Backup of your device
If you don't know what a Nandroid backup is, don't worry. It's basically just taking your phone as is and making a backup of it. In case you make a mistake or flash a bad download of a ROM, this allows you to restore your system. I always keep my backups on the External Storage (microSD Card), so in case I have to wipe my internal storage, it's not a big deal. You can also copy the files over to your PC, just to be more paranoind about your nandroid backups (rhyming is fun!).
You do this by restarting into Recovery (power down device, hold down home button and volume up while powering on phone).
Once in TWRP, go to "backup." Make sure the storage selected is "external storage." This screen will have various options of what to backup. I typically choose everything except external storage. Typically, backups range from 1-2 Gigs.
For me, backups typically take 5-10 minutes to do. In my opinion, this is totally worth it, since I can always restore a backup with no issues.
Step 6 - Install a Custom ROM
Once you choose your custom ROM from the Development Section, follow the instructions on the original post to install it. I'll give a general outline of what I do whenever installing a new ROM, but sometimes a custom ROM will have specific instructions, so you want to make sure to read the posts carefully.
Generic Instructions for Installing a ROM:
Download ROM and check the md5
Internet being spotty in my area, I always check the md5 to make sure that the file downloaded correctly. You can check the md5 using this windows program or using a file explorer on your phone like ES File Explorer. I always copy the ROM zip file to my external SDcard.
Reboot to Recovery
Wipe Data, System, Cache, and Dalvik Cache
This is called a "Clean Wipe," meaning it will wipe out your installed Apps and the data associated with them. Some people will claim that "Dirty Flashing" (i.e. not wiping the above) is OK, but I've seen too many apps Force Closing (FC-ing) when dirty flashing. Also, if you dirty-flash and encounter an issue with a ROM, the first piece of advice is to do a clean install. Might as well do that initially and hopefully not run into any issues.
Install the Custom ROM
Pretty straight-forward on how to do this... just click "Install" and then browse to the place your copied the ROM zip file.
Reboot your phone and run through the typical initial start-up information (google account, etc).
Once you get your phone set up the way you like (apps, accounts, wifi passwords, etc), I'd make another Nandroid backup, just so you have one where it's setup with everything you need. This will make any issues less painful, since you'd restore a backup that's already setup.
Step 7 - Further Considerations
If you ever want to try a new ROM, all you have to do is repeat step 6. Beware, though, people easily become flashaholics when they first figure this stuff out.
If you were paying attention to my "Generic Instructions" when installing a ROM, you'd notice that every time you do a Clean Install of a ROM, you lose all your apps... All of your Angry Birds 3-Star levels are gone!
Well, there are ways to get prevent losing that data... One is by "Dirty Flashing" (Not wiping the "system" or "data" partitions before flashing a ROM in TWRP). This is common practice among users here on XDA, but is typically frowned upon by ROM devs. I've noticed that a good number of issues on ROM threads stem from people Dirty Flashing. It typically causes more problems than it solves.
The other way of backup up and restoring app data (prior to wiping) is by using Titanium Backup. I could write up a long post on how to use Titanium Backup (TiBu), but the main things to remember are the following:
White line items are fine to be restored (both Data and Apps).
Restoring Yellow line items is typically OK (Data only).
Restoring system apps or data (red line items in TiBu) is typically a bad idea.
I've been using TiBu for the past 2-3 years and it's typically worked like a charm. Sometimes, when there's a major Android Update (like from JellyBean to KitKat), it can become broken, but the Developer is really responsive and gets it to work within a few weeks. If you upgrade to PRO, you can schedule automatic app backups (I backup all my user apps every night at 3am). You can also restore apps/data from Nandroid Backups (which is great if you do a Nandroid backup but had forgotten to update your TiBu backups).
In Summary
Whew, that was a lot to write... I'm a Structural Engineer, not a Software Engineer, so I don't know the technical side of things like bootloaders or basebands, but hopefully none of the information I provided was false.
Anyways, let me know if you have any problems with the install. I appreciate any feedback!
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I hope this helps, but please, in the future, write out your question clearly and provide as much information as possible, that way we can help you quickly and efficiently.
Cheers!
-Topher
OK I noticed that thanks again I finally found a 4.4.4 Cm Rom working awesome very little glitch but can deal with I have no way to update without pc
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Why does titanium backup not save from deletion says no external backup detected
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No data sorry
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Running pac man rom Cm no data
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Thanks
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Running pac man rom Cm no data
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Ok, you haven't fully answered the questions myself and @jdelano asked you. If you cannot answer these questions, we will be unable to help you.
Phone Model: Note 3 sm900p
Phone Modem/Baseband: Unanswered
Firmware version: Unanswered
Recovery installed: Unanswered
Root Method: Unanswered
Flashing Steps: Unanswered
ROM flashed: CM11, pac man rom (no build number/date given, please provide a link to the thread you flashed from)
Are you a Sprint Customer, or have you flashed your phone to another carrier?
What is the issue you're having: No data when on CM 4.4.4 ROMs.
I am in the process of downloading/installing the PacMan ROM in this thread. The file I will be flashing is the pac_hltespr__20141110-124721.zip and the Gapps modular package from this thread, filename: pa_gapps-modular-full-4.4.4-20141121-signed.zip.
EDIT: By following the steps in my previous post, I was able to install the PacMan ROM with Gapps and all worked well. I had data, root access, and was able to wifi tether... Please answer the questions I asked before, especially what version is your baseband, as I suspect that's the main issue that you have.
Nc5
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Y'all packing works great little glitchy phone turns on an off but all good all Cm roms I end up with no data I have Phil's recovery beast kernal average gapps had to update su binary any time I flash cm and it changes my recovery sometimes I cannot format SD card or I will loose all files I have no PC even if I use drop box titanium doesn't work the way it use to can save apps from deleting with confirmation so what's a stable cm Rom or slim rom and gapps or do you have knew updated tw rom rooted I have update my boot loader so
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Nc5
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Phone Model: Note 3 sm900p
Phone Modem/Baseband: NC5
Firmware version: Unanswered
Recovery installed: Unanswered
Root Method: Unanswered
Flashing Steps: Unanswered
ROM flashed: CM11, pac man rom (no build number/date given, please provide a link to the thread you flashed from)
Are you a Sprint Customer, or have you flashed your phone to another carrier?
What is the issue you're having: No data when on CM 4.4.4 ROMs.
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As I stated in my first reply to you, the issue is that your phone is still on the NC5 bootloader. In order for 4.4.4 ROMs to play nicely on your phone, you'll need to update it to NH7. This is also stated in my previous post. You need to follow those instructions to the letter (particularly Step 3) in order to update it. You must use a computer to flash the update file, as Mobile ODIN is not able to update the bootloader. You need to get access to a computer (work, library, friend who owes you $20, someone at Starbucks).
Until you follow those steps, I doubt any 4.4.4 ROM will work correctly on your device.
Exposed frame work not compatible with roms only tw anyone have zip for NH7 u date with root
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Exposed frame work not compatible with roms only tw anyone have zip for NH7 u date with root
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This is the first you've mentioned XPosed Framework... What exactly are you trying to do with it?
I don't know where you've gotten your information from, but I know for a fact that XPosed is compatible with all 4.4.4 AOSP ROMs as well as all TW ROMs. XPosed is NOT compatible with 5.0+ Roms. I'm currently using it on my "daily-driver" ROM, which is based on 4.4.4 AOSP.
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Y'all packing works great little glitchy phone turns on an off but all good all Cm roms I end up with no data I have Phil's recovery beast kernal average gapps had to update su binary any time I flash cm and it changes my recovery sometimes I cannot format SD card or I will loose all files I have no PC even if I use drop box titanium doesn't work the way it use to can save apps from deleting with confirmation so what's a stable cm Rom or slim rom and gapps or do you have knew updated tw rom rooted I have update my boot loader so
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Ok, lets get you to a known platform with your phone so you can use 4.4.4 TW or AOSP ROMs.
#1. Load latest stock firmware and software
[Stock ROM] Odin flashable N900PSPTDNH7Follow the instructions EXACTLY
Now make sure you boot stock NH7, let it get data and update your profile and PRL by doing:
go to Settings -> General -> System Update, then select Update PRL (wait for it to do its thing), then Update Profile (again wait for it.)
Now we know you're on the most current stock software available and we've updated your profile and PRL (preferred roaming list)
#2. Root stock NH7 acquired in step #1
Go here Download philz_touch_6.48.4-hlte.tar.md5 (save it in the same folder you have Odin in from Step #1)Go Download SuperSU-v2.37.zipCopy the zip to your phone's sd cardUse Odin to put philz_touch_6.48.4-hlte.tar.md5 on your phone (same basic steps you used to Odin NH7) - Make sure you UNCHECK rebootOnce odin is finished and you see PASSED on the screen, unplug your phone from your computer then press Volume UP + HOME + POWER and hold all 3 until the phone reboots and you see blue words "Recovery Booting ..." at the top of the screen - Philz recovery will startnow select install zip -> choose zip from /sdcard -> scroll all the way to the bottom and select the SuperSU-v2.37.zip file -> select Yesonce finished press back until you get to the main recovery menu and select Reboot to System
#3. Update SuperSU binaries
Once your rebooted, Open Apps drawer, open SuperSU, say no to disable knox, it will ask about updating binaries, select yes, select normal, wait until it says its finished.Now you are Rooted Stock NH7You can now flash any 4.4.4 TW-NH7 or AOSP hltespr ROM - make sure to follow each Post #1 instructions on the ROM you choose and of course backup before flashing anything new
I hope this gets you to where you want to be, good luck.
Theres a lot of patience being displayed here. One should never start messing with their phone unless they have even the slightest clue what they are doing from the start
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Theres a lot of patience being displayed here. One should never start messing with their phone unless they have even the slightest clue what they are doing from the start
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The amount of patience I am seeing is mind blowing! To the OP...Just some words of advice. I have been a member of XDA for alot of years now and I can tell you that you will get a tremendous amount of help from this community. My only suggestions would be,when looking for help:
1) Be very clear as to the question you are asking.
2) If someone is willing to help you, Give them all of the information that they are asking you for.
3) Punctuation goes a very long way when someone is trying to understand what you are asking. Try using a period to avoid run on sentences.
Please do not take this as anything other then what I have learned over the years to get the best and quickest help!
I hope these guys are able to help you with your issues! :fingers-crossed:
For anybody that wants to go back to 4.4.4 from 5.0 I can confirm it works great, I just flashed back with Odin. The 4.4.4 firmware is at sammobile right below the lollipop firmware. The 4.4.4 flash put it into a bootloop to which I then factory reset and it started up perfectly with none of the completely unusable issues I was having.
Bummed out that I can't use lollipop for the time being, but more than relieved that I have a usable phone again, I thought it was toast.Lollipop made my phone worthless, literally couldn't do anything, major bootloops and constant crashes.
I made another thread about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3/help/reboots-lollipop-t3090421
You should retry the upgrade, it's faster and more stable. You just had a corrupted file or something, if you really want the best is worth a try. It's 40% faster. There was just something wrong with your install.
Did you do a factory reset when you upgraded? A lot of Note 4 users who upgraded had similar issues which a factory reset corrected.
I took the upgrade and found it to be faster and more reliable as well. Still fingers crossed for a root exploit. At least we know if an exploit ever happens for 4.4.4 then we can downgrade to get it. Good to know!
Oh really? I thought we couldn't roll back after taking 5.0. I am having a hard time a stable host to download 4.4.4
Can someone help me out with this? <confused>
@ lost perfections:
Success! The 4.4.4 firmware took forever to download but worth it! Thank for this!
KruseLudsMobile said:
You should retry the upgrade, it's faster and more stable. You just had a corrupted file or something, if you really want the best is worth a try. It's 40% faster. There was just something wrong with your install.
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Trust me I really wanted it and tried all the usual steps. I think something is wrong with my phones hardware that works mostly ok on this version. I actually stayed on an old version for a very long time, I rooted "root de la vega" and took one ota using the supersu option to keep root when using an ota. The next update after that would not work for me, I would have had to wipe and odin to update, so I held off thinking I wasn't missing anything. Till about a week or less after 4.4.4 came out then my phone started crashing the moment I received or made a call. I hadn't gotten any new apps or anything like that but just in case I factory reset to see if it fixed with no luck. So I finally upgraded via odin, no root now, but miraculously my phone could make calls again. I am giving you this essay because I have a feeling this issue is related. It seems it's my phones hardware that is messed up and i'm just lucky that 4.4.4 works at all. I still have issues every couple days where I make or receive a call and hear nothing, with a reboot needed to fix, that is confirmed still after a fresh install of 4.4.4 after all the 5.0 stuff I tried. Anyways thats why I think it's my phone. I wish I had an extended warranty so I could just update and make a claim.
As for everything I tried in the update, I took the ota, which was literally unusable by anybodys standard, I could use the phone for about 5-20ish seconds before it would crash, turning the sound to mute would help, but still crash at a couple minutes of use. I downloaded the firmware and flashed via Odin, same exact issues, changed nothing. Did several factory resets between all these steps. I kind of walked through the process on that thread I posted in the OP.
After making this thread I did try it one last time and flashed via odin, knowing that I had a workable fix, but same exact thing again. If they release another update I'll try then, but looks like I'm stuck till then at least.
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Did you do a factory reset when you upgraded? A lot of Note 4 users who upgraded had similar issues which a factory reset corrected.
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Yeah I did anything and everything I could, no luck. I think my phone itself is the problem.
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@ lost perfections:
Success! The 4.4.4 firmware took forever to download but worth it! Thank for this!
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Awesome, glad it helped. I'm SO glad they didn't block the ability to do this, I'd have been out a phone if they had.
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Awesome, glad it helped. I'm SO glad they didn't block the ability to do this, I'd have been out a phone if they had.
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Can you be more specific? There are two firmware versions that are 4.4.4-NJ6 and NK1. I assume you used NK1? I'm a newb and sort of know how to use Odin/download mode. What version of Odin did you use?
I want to rollback to the previous build until they sort out the radio issues. My phone was fine on NK1 but on lollipop it drops LTE indoors frequently. Aside from the radio issue, lollipop runs great. I factory reset after the update, didn't make a difference.
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Can you be more specific? There are two firmware versions that are 4.4.4-NJ6 and NK1. I assume you used NK1? I'm a newb and sort of know how to use Odin/download mode. What version of Odin did you use?
I want to rollback to the previous build until they sort out the radio issues. My phone was fine on NK1 but on lollipop it drops LTE indoors frequently. Aside from the radio issue, lollipop runs great. I factory reset after the update, didn't make a difference.
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You can use any radio with any rom. Just flash the modem file via flash app or Odin.
thornev said:
You can use any radio with any rom. Just flash the modem file via flash app or Odin.
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Are you certain I can use a KitKat radio on lollipop? Verizon Note 3. If so, I'll do that right now.
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YayNote said:
Are you certain I can use a KitKat radio on lollipop? Verizon Note 3. If so, I'll do that right now.
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I haven't done it, but I have mixed radios and roms before for example kitkat radio with JB rom.
Well, I'd still rather 4.4.4.. it's too bad. When I have strong LTE it's amazing. Did this speedtest today - kilobytes per sec. Incredible.
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YayNote said:
Well, I'd still rather 4.4.4.. it's too bad. When I have strong LTE it's amazing. Did this speedtest today - kilobytes per sec. Incredible.
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No matter what....once you go to lollipop, you can NOT go back to any earlier version.
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Doesn't the OP state that you can revert back?
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Can you be more specific? There are two firmware versions that are 4.4.4-NJ6 and NK1. I assume you used NK1? I'm a newb and sort of know how to use Odin/download mode. What version of Odin did you use?.
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Yep. The OP did. Hell that's the title of the topic and there's two confirmed posters that did it successfully. I only wanted to know if they flashed NJ6 or NK1 and what build of Odin they used..
YayNote said:
Yep. The OP did. Hell that's the title of the topic and there's two confirmed posters that did it successfully. I only wanted to know if they flashed NJ6 or NK1 and what build of Odin they used..
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Okay, to anyone whose interested: I used Odin 3.09 & NK1 (most current VZW build of 4.4.4) and it worked. Phone went into a bootloop, started recovery did a factory reset an it's back to normal.
Lollipop ran fine on my phone-probably because I reset it as soon as I updated...BUT, my data signal was halved. I get a weak LTE signal at work and by weak I mean 1 or 2 bars 105-115DB at best. Old brick building and I work in the basement. On lollipop, it wouldn't hold onto LTE anymore. It'd flip between 1x/3g..usually settling on 3G. Voice was unaffected. Hopefully they sort this out but this sort of signal performance (especially when it was fine on KK) is unacceptable.
Rolling back to NK1 has solved that. Thanks to the OP!
I can also confirm that flashing 4.4.4 NK1 from 5.0.0 OB6 works.
Tried it myself, but after I got done playing with it I went back to 5.0.0 OB6 afterwards.
I didn't look to see if it kept the 5.0.0 radio when downgrading to 4.4.4, but it kept the 5.0.0 boot loader.
I did not test the radio (as I didn't have a usable sim card at the time.)
Also, don't try to run URDLV on the 4.4.4 firmware before flashing, it will not boot (even with a factory reset.)
But I didn't try to flash a modified 4.4.4 firmware after 4.4.4 was already on there.
so just so I understand there's no root for 4.4.4 or 5.0 but it's possible to go back to 4.4.4 from 5.0 ?