From The Verge
http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/25/5937217/what-you-need-to-know-about-verizon-lte-throttling
For those of us that have unlimited, in Oct. Verizon will start throttling the top 5% of users IF THE TOWER YOU ARE CONNECTED TO SEES HEAVY USAGE.
4 conditions have to be met.
1. You still have an unlimited data plan.
2. You are on a month to month basis
3. You are a top 5% user (right now anyone above 5.7GB/month is in that category).
4. The tower you are connected to is being heavily used (total of all users).
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saw that the other day, hopefully wont apply to me, as I live in a small town.
Sucks though
you are promised unlimited data, but not a set speed. I am on the unlimited plan and do use a lot of data but I'm fine with this. I prefer to keep unlimited data in fear of living in fear of overages and I wanna use my phone when I wanna use my phone.
I'm glad I live in a very small town.
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From The Verge
4. The tower you are connected to is being heavily used (total of all users).
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Yeah..."heavily" is vague enough that I'm sure I'll get throttled
Actually Verizon is the last of the big 4 to do this. It was just a matter of time...
I was not excited to hear this since I was one of the unlucky "top 5%" that was throttled on 3G as they were starting to roll out 4G and try to get heavier users to buy new phones (I was holding out for a DX at the time). I can only hope they don't cripple the connection the way they did then. When on a "congested" tower I would only get between 1 - 10kb/sec down. I couldn't do a successful speed test most of the time without it just timing out and it would cripple even the most basic functions of my "smartphone" like email.
It's been said a bunch already but, this is how they are trying to get people to get off unlimited data and pay more for less. Luckily these days I connect to WiFi at work so during the day it won't be so bad but my train commute will blow if they reduce the speeds that much.
Also, there is a mistype in the first post, it is 4.7GB of data a month, not 5.7.
For more info visit here
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/information/data_disclosure.html
So when I've been doing 30-40gb a month sometimes, I'll be screwed... yay
They have already been throttling me. I can not even stream a youtube video without constant buffering. Been this way for awhile especially during peak hours.
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Actually Verizon is the last of the big 4 to do this. It was just a matter of time...
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Sprint claims they don't throttle. Unlimited means unlimited access according to them. Between how much vzw has locked down their phones, ending unlimited, and now this; I'm done with them.
Edit: I guess Sprint is throttling their top 5% too. At least they still offer unlimited plans I suppose
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Sprint claims they don't throttle. Unlimited means unlimited access according to them. Between how much vzw has locked down their phones, ending unlimited, and now this; I'm done with them.
Edit: I guess Sprint is throttling their top 5% too. At least they still offer unlimited plans I suppose
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Unlimited on there network! I work alot in North Dakota and Northern Alaska. Verizon has great service in those spots that's why in with them now, I had sprint and changed my prl to Verizon so I could roam on there towers and was terminated from Sprint for excessive roaming (3-5gb per month for 4 continuous months).
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Unlimited on there network! I work alot in North Dakota and Northern Alaska. Verizon has great service in those spots that's why in with them now, I had sprint and changed my prl to Verizon so I could roam on there towers and was terminated from Sprint for excessive roaming (3-5gb per month for 4 continuous months).
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I'm an ex Sprint guy and they've been known to lay the smack down on users for excessive data usage??!!?? Excessive data usage for unlimited data.... ?
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I'm pretty sure the criteria they claim has to be met is bogus. There's 1 criteria for throttling, and that's if you have this unlimited plan. I am, of course, speaking from a sampling size of exactly 1 other person besides myself. This other person has been throttled yet doesn't eat up more than a gig or 2 per month.
I've been throttled, but I expected it. You tend to draw attention when you use more than 80 gigs a month, on a light month.
Saw an article today saying the FCC is not happy about this. What sucks is if the FCC says they can't throttle just because of the plan people have, Verizon will probably just kill the plan altogether somehow.
Edit: There are a few different ones out there. Heres one: http://9to5mac.com/2014/07/30/fcc-throttles-verizon-wireless-over-plans-to-throttle-customers/
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Saw an article today saying the FCC is not happy about this. What sucks is if the FCC says they can't throttle just because of the plan people have, Verizon will probably just kill the plan altogether somehow.
Edit: There are a few different ones out there. Heres one: http://9to5mac.com/2014/07/30/fcc-throttles-verizon-wireless-over-plans-to-throttle-customers/
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Doubtful, 20% of Verizon customers still have unlimited data. That move would piss off a lot of customers
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I guess I am really really screwed. Last month I used 118gig. The FCC says that by doing this Verizon is breaking the agreement they had with them to gain access to the LTE spectrum so who knows what will happen. I know I am tired of every update Verizon OTA's sends out screwing up my phone(s)...maybe it's time for a provider switch.
Curious myself. I renewed my unlimited contract back in November when the Note 3 came out during the so call "glitch", so I have my unlimited under contract for 2 more years.
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Curious myself. I renewed my unlimited contract back in November when the Note 3 came out during the so call "glitch", so I have my unlimited under contract for 2 more years.
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You're on a contract, so not affected by their new policy.
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Oh the suprises you unlimited data users are in for at years end.
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Did a couple google searches and didn't find the answer to my question. Is the 4g plan really unlimited or is there a cap at 5gb as usual? Thanks.
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unlimited for now...they could change it eventually
Well if it's anything like the 3g plan I had on my eris before it's truely unlimited. A lot of rumors where out there that said they would cap you or turn off service after 5gigs and it's total bs to scare you. I use 10+ gigs month after month and I was never capped, threatened or throttled. Granted I was stock using pda.net and it was totally doable.
So go balls to the wall!
it is truely unlimited but if you go crazy they may throttle you
Awesome, good to hear. Thanks for the responses.
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I'm not 100% sure if this is accurate or not..but I believe being on an old Alltel plan still, mainline being a business line, I believe, and then my added line...I TRULY am unlimited on 3g and 4g (Bought a THunderbolt to grandfather in) and not Verizon's "Reserve the right to throttle after 5 gigs unlimited" since I don't believe that was mentioned in Alltel contracts.
Also...it's possible I may have unlimitted tethering as well. Tethering isn't mentioned anywhere in the contract...but that's the lookhole. IF you all remember just 4-5 years back, anybody could tether a phone to their computer as a modem for internet without having a plan. It just wasn't a big deal since the data explosion hadn't taken off yet.
I have yet to be able to confirm this and can find very little information regarding it. Anyone in a similar situation or have any knowledge on the issue?
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Well if it's anything like the 3g plan I had on my eris before it's truely unlimited. A lot of rumors where out there that said they would cap you or turn off service after 5gigs and it's total bs to scare you. I use 10+ gigs month after month and I was never capped, threatened or throttled. Granted I was stock using pda.net and it was totally doable.
So go balls to the wall!
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Does your phone never leave your hand or do you just have no life to use that much data??
I was curious too, didnt want to see a $300 bill. I've used 14 gigs so far this month, phone just doest leave my hand always on forums watch YouTube downloading apps music and videos. Am a data whore. Got nothing better to do at work tho....besides working but eff that.
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taintphuck said:
I'm not 100% sure if this is accurate or not..but I believe being on an old Alltel plan still, mainline being a business line, I believe, and then my added line...I TRULY am unlimited on 3g and 4g (Bought a THunderbolt to grandfather in) and not Verizon's "Reserve the right to throttle after 5 gigs unlimited" since I don't believe that was mentioned in Alltel contracts.
Also...it's possible I may have unlimitted tethering as well. Tethering isn't mentioned anywhere in the contract...but that's the lookhole. IF you all remember just 4-5 years back, anybody could tether a phone to their computer as a modem for internet without having a plan. It just wasn't a big deal since the data explosion hadn't taken off yet.
I have yet to be able to confirm this and can find very little information regarding it. Anyone in a similar situation or have any knowledge on the issue?
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that may not be right because you had to change your data plan so it had 4g
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Does your phone never leave your hand or do you just have no life to use that much data??
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I had no home internet connection for about 4 months so I really didn't have any other choice. And it is really easy to hit that much data and I would hit more if 3g didn't suck so bad for videos streaming and the such. But for online gaming it wasn't to bad if you can stand 200 pings.
I have a question for you guys sorry to thread jack. But I decided i'm switching to Verizon for the HTC Thunderbolt. If I wanted the unlimited data for 29.99 do I have to buy it this month or would I be okay switching over to Verizon next month?
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I have a question for you guys sorry to thread jack. But I decided i'm switching to Verizon for the HTC Thunderbolt. If I wanted the unlimited data for 29.99 do I have to buy it this month or would I be okay switching over to Verizon next month?
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You are safe for getting it next month.
So, Dan Hesse, CEO of Sprint was asked some pretty upfront questions about Data caps and it's competitors who all seem to be using tiered data plans now.
his full answer here at Engadget. http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/19/dan-hesse-sprints-not-following-virgins-tiered-data-movement/
This gist: As of right now, the fact that they are testing Data Caps on Virgin (uses Sprint towers) is in no way a sign that it will come to Sprint.
He does go on to state that going to a tiered system may be needed at some point in the future. (couple years out? said by Engadget.)
What are your thoughts? I love unlimited data. I doubt I use over 2GB right now, but with Netflix budding and Google Music about to open up to the masses, and Spotify reaching the states. who the hell knows anymore.
It doesnt really make a difference to me,im on wifi 90% of the time.
Could care less my signal sucks so bad I use wifi 99% of the time . Don't play around at work or driving and already got gps
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If they do go to tiered data I'm going to Verizon....
They have better signal in my area and with a price increase (if they do data packages) ill be paying close to 200 a month for 2 unlimited lines so why not just go to a "better/stable" service provider if I will be paying the same ammount...
Verizon is expensive and sucks I know but i am not betting on anyone else to put a 4g/LTE in my town other than them :/
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It seems like a foregone conclusion.
The pipe into my home should never have an artificial limit put on how much I download or upload. I should pay for throughput. The cap being imposed by how much I could theoretically download in a month at my selected rate maxed out 24/7. It is artificial scarcity. If I'm already subject to the ebb and flow of the network why the hell should I also have a cap imposed? Sure, that might smooth it out a little bit for a little while...but they will continue to add more subscribers than their infrastructure can support...and that's my fault? Our tax dollars went to help them build out that network that they are now trying to rape us for, they DO in fact owe us a little something. Stop overselling your networks and imposing artificial caps on a resource that isn't subject to scarcity, especially when my speeds are at the whim of the condition of the network at any given moment.
Wireless, however, is a slightly different beast. Without a gigantic technological leap we have a ceiling that dictates how many people may be connected in any given area at any given speed at an given moment. I do think caps on wireless are bound to happen...however our requirements will also increase every year. It will be like inflation, you'll always get just a little less data than you'll want but that will increase every year and be, for the most part, manageable. So long as the dollar-to-data ratio stays relative in check I'm fine with that. Right now a 5gb limit is a tad tight for $80 a month....so I'm glad it is "unlimited"...but next year I'd better be getting 10gb a month for that same $80 (probably $90 inflation adjusted the way the dollar is headed, hopefully no more).
2gb cap? Sure, but my entire plan (unlimited minutes and all) had better cost me $49...
...this ATTmobile merger is bad bad baaaaad news guys. The less competition there is the worse this will get. Root for Sprint, support Sprint and pray to god that Verizon doesn't acquire Sprint....Pray to Google that Google does...
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If they do go to tiered data I'm going to Verizon....
They have better signal in my area and with a price increase (if they do data packages) ill be paying close to 200 a month for 2 unlimited lines so why not just go to a "better/stable" service provider if I will be paying the same ammount...
Verizon is expensive and sucks I know but i am not betting on anyone else to put a 4g/LTE in my town other than them :/
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This. Unfortunately.
I've been with Sprint for such a long time, it's nice to see them stepping up their game these last couple of years. Unfortunately, if they go to a tiered data plan, it would cost me the same amount to go with Verizon, who has better coverage here AND 4G here as well. Sprint does not have 4G here.
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It seems like a foregone conclusion.
The pipe into my home should never have an artificial limit put on how much I download or upload. I should pay for throughput. The cap being imposed by how much I could theoretically download in a month at my selected rate maxed out 24/7. It is artificial scarcity. If I'm already subject to the ebb and flow of the network why the hell should I also have a cap imposed? Sure, that might smooth it out a little bit for a little while...but they will continue to add more subscribers than their infrastructure can support...and that's my fault? Our tax dollars went to help them build out that network that they are now trying to rape us for, they DO in fact owe us a little something. Stop overselling your networks and imposing artificial caps on a resource that isn't subject to scarcity, especially when my speeds are at the whim of the condition of the network at any given moment.
Wireless, however, is a slightly different beast. Without a gigantic technological leap we have a ceiling that dictates how many people may be connected in any given area at any given speed at an given moment. I do think caps on wireless are bound to happen...however our requirements will also increase every year. It will be like inflation, you'll always get just a little less data than you'll want but that will increase every year and be, for the most part, manageable. So long as the dollar-to-data ratio stays relative in check I'm fine with that. Right now a 5gb limit is a tad tight for $80 a month....so I'm glad it is "unlimited"...but next year I'd better be getting 10gb a month for that same $80 (probably $90 inflation adjusted the way the dollar is headed, hopefully no more).
2gb cap? Sure, but my entire plan (unlimited minutes and all) had better cost me $49...
...this ATTmobile merger is bad bad baaaaad news guys. The less competition there is the worse this will get. Root for Sprint, support Sprint and pray to god that Verizon doesn't acquire Sprint....Pray to Google that Google does...
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and dude, Sprint could revolutionize right now. they could introduce a reversed tier system.
everyone paying what they pay right now stays unlimited. if you want a 2gb cap? cheaper data plans! don't change our prices, but add new plans with caps if you want to jump into the whole "NO SOUP FOR YOU!" trend.
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This. Unfortunately.
I've been with Sprint for such a long time, it's nice to see them stepping up their game these last couple of years. Unfortunately, if they go to a tiered data plan, it would cost me the same amount to go with Verizon, who has better coverage here AND 4G here as well. Sprint does not have 4G here.
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If Sprint exists as is but has to go to tiered plans I would not expect them to cost nearly as much as Verizon's or EVERYONE would jump ship. Sprint knows this. I wouldn't worry about it. As long as Sprint is the little guy they will offer something to positively differentiate themselves from the pack. ATT has the best speed, Verizon has the best coverage, Sprint has the best price. Unless Sprint can capture either (or both) of those two factors the only option they have is price as 'features' don't exist to differentiate in the post-smartphone world.
...and if Sprint does capture either or both of those elements then prices can and would go up as people flock to Sprint...then they aren't the underdog anymore, then you go to who is....or move to who has what you want the most.
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This. Unfortunately.
I've been with Sprint for such a long time, it's nice to see them stepping up their game these last couple of years. Unfortunately, if they go to a tiered data plan, it would cost me the same amount to go with Verizon, who has better coverage here AND 4G here as well. Sprint does not have 4G here.
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Honestly I would go back to tmobile or ATT if they had 4G here or to Verizon for that matter...
People complained about the phone selection sucks at Verizon and they didn't have dual core phones right away but **** look at sprint it took them almost 3 months to get a dual core phone after ATT and tmobile got theirs
I hate the thought of buying anything named "droid" but hey its my money I'm spending in the end... And sprint sucks balls in my town of 78k people..... And there isn't even a service center if i did have problems with my phone within 100 miles of me
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This. Unfortunately.
I've been with Sprint for such a long time, it's nice to see them stepping up their game these last couple of years. Unfortunately, if they go to a tiered data plan, it would cost me the same amount to go with Verizon, who has better coverage here AND 4G here as well. Sprint does not have 4G here.
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I'm fortunate. I have good 4G service nearly everywhere in my city/state. So, this is going to effect me if they push to a tiered system
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and dude, Sprint could revolutionize right now. they could introduce a reversed tier system.
everyone paying what they pay right now stays unlimited. if you want a 2gb cap? cheaper data plans! don't change our prices, but add new plans with caps if you want to jump into the whole "NO SOUP FOR YOU!" trend.
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That and I think a strategic partnership with Google...HYPER INVEST IN 3G and 4G, DITCH THE 2G, VOIP+Gvoice for EVERYTHING. Use those lower 2G frequencies for mind-shattering 4G penetration.
Now they are merely a wireless data/communications provider. The 2G setup is quickly becoming superfluous, as did AMPS towards the end of the transition with dual-mode phones in the early 00's.
Hopefully Sprint leads this trend...it will happen. Just watch...
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That and I think a strategic partnership with Google...HYPER INVEST IN 3G and 4G, DITCH THE 2G, VOIP+Gvoice for EVERYTHING. Use those lower 2G frequencies for mind-shattering 4G penetration.
Now they are merely a wireless data/communications provider. The 2G setup is quickly becoming superfluous, as did AMPS towards the end of the transition with dual-mode phones in the early 00's.
Hopefully Sprint leads this trend...it will happen. Just watch...
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Oh may god. I remember actually thinking about getting a "surferboard" but my old Nokia phone because I got no signal where I lived. a 100 dollar attachment that allowed the phone to get analog signal, drained battery, and cost ridiculous roaming fees
I have broken 2 gigs twice in the year I've been on Sprint.
Amazon had a podcast app for free a couple of weeks ago. Then I started listening to The Regular Guys out of Atlanta. Podcasts will chew thru the data. A couple hundred megs a day listening to 3 hours of podcasts. Last billing cycle I broke 2 gigs. And the show is a riot. I litterally LOL in my cube.
I actually just saw the Tmobile unlimited family plan commercial. Said unlimited a few times. But in small text at the bottom of the screen is says 200mbs of Full Speed Data.
So, they start throttling you after 200mbs? Wow... I know for a fact I go. Over 200 a month.
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I actually just saw the Tmobile unlimited family plan commercial. Said unlimited a few times. But in small text at the bottom of the screen is says 200mbs of Full Speed Data.
So, they start throttling you after 200mbs? Wow... I know for a fact I go. Over 200 a month.
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No its 5GB
They have a cheap 60 dollar (single) plan that is capped at 2gb
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Ya they cap at something low and charge more that would suck. No 4G here either think a lot of folks would roll to Verizon which I agree on the price they suck cause of the price be worth it in the long haul they have a 5gig cap
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Ya they cap at something low and charge more that would suck. No 4G here either think a lot of folks would roll to Verizon which I agree on the price they suck cause of the price be worth it in the long haul they have a 5gig cap
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That 5g cap is going to cost you now a days
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No its 5GB
They have a cheap 60 dollar (single) plan that is capped at 2gb
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Dude. I just saw the commercial. It said 200mb at full data speeds. =p
You calling me a liar!?
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Dude. I just saw the commercial. It said 200mb at full data speeds. =p
You calling me a liar!?
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Lmfao I dunno but I just came over from tmobile to sprint and I had 5GB on each phone each month... They ended up letting me out of the contract early with no ETF because I was throttled for 3 month straight. And i got to sell the phones I had for profit
Well more than what I paid for them....
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why are you guys tripping out. You will be locked in regardless. Verizon still is letting their unlimited 3g customers keep unlimited 4g if they get a 4g plan, and as long as they stay with verizon they keep unlimited. ATT allowed all people to renew their contract and keep unlimited even after their contract was over.
I received a call today from ATT (missed the call and it went to voicemail) about the online FCC COMPLAINT about the UNLIMITED data plan and throttling issues. If anyone else has received a call would you mind sharing your interactions with ATT on the matter? I will update further any information once I call them back tomorrow morning/afternoon. I ha e to say I am surprised on getting the call so soon since I made the complaint just over a week or two ago. So any info for those that also received the call back please let me know. Thanks
Here is the link to the FCC Complaints Site. Follow the prompts for Wireless Telephone, Etc. http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm
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Where/who is it that you complained to? I haven't reached the "top 5%" yet but i'm sure it's only a matter of time and I definitely want to get involved in this before we start getting totally screwed out of the 'unlimited plan'.
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Where/who is it that you complained to? I haven't reached the "top 5%" yet but i'm sure it's only a matter of time and I definitely want to get involved in this before we start getting totally screwed out of the 'unlimited plan'.
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I thought it was from a post on here bit I couldnt refind the post. But there was a link to fcc to make a complaint. I filled it out with the needed info. I will be calling the ATT executive branch or whatever it was that called me today so I will posy whatever info i get from that.
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I thought it was from a post on here bit I couldnt refind the post. But there was a link to fcc to make a complaint. I filled it out with the needed info. I will be calling the ATT Office Of The President called me today so I will posy whatever info i get from that.
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EDIT: The call is from the office of the president. I left a message for the person that called and will post whatever he said on here one I receive a call back.
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This is going to be an interesting read.
I really doubt anything will change since I can only assume hundreds if not maybe thousands have tried contacting AT&T about unlimited plans in the past.
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This is going to be an interesting read.
I really doubt anything will change since I can only assume hundreds if not maybe thousands have tried contacting AT&T about unlimited plans in the past.
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what im getting from the OP is about throttling unlimited data user not about unlimited data plan. unless im wrong.
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This is going to be an interesting read.
I really doubt anything will change since I can only assume hundreds if not maybe thousands have tried contacting AT&T about unlimited plans in the past.
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I already have the grandfathered unlimited data plan. I have had it for many years and now they start throttling me. Plus ATT Office of tbe President contacted me about the fcc filing, I did not contact them.
It would be one thing to throttle me at anything above 4Gb per month since they still have a plan with 2Gb data and 2Gb tethering combined for the total of 4Gb per month. I pay and have paid the $30 month to keep my unlimited.I also have two other lines that have the 2Gb per month plans which is $25 month for those two other lines.. If those 2Gb plans go over it automatically starts charging overage charges up to another Gb of Data. But Unlimited really should be unlimited per definition.
But being throttled at 2Gb to the point of .14Mb/s is basically turning OFF the data usage. If it was throttled down to lower speeds than the 8-10Mb/s I get when i am not throttled down to maybe the 1-2Mbs that my captivate gets when it is on 3G speeds may be acceptable, just not .14Mb/s. TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
I usually only used 2-4Gb Data per month and do not tether. So i as others have done said enougb is enough and filed the complaint as others too have.
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There is definitely a point where at&t could rationalize throttling us 'unlimited' users, but in my opinion, 2GB is a rediculous limit. The 'unlimited' plan always had a soft cap of 5GB(ish), and I think that should be the point at which throttling occurs. We pay more than the majority of smartphone users, and while I can't speak for others, the majority of the time I come in well below 2GB. What about the 5 years of unlimited data i've been paying for?
All that money I threw away by not using all my data, and now they're gonna throttle people at some arbitrary number between 2-4GB?? It's insane. It didn't really bother me to find out that people averaging 10GB per month were getting throttled, but under 5GB?? NO WAY! When I signed up for unlimited data I understood that after 5GB I would start getting into trouble, but to think that i've been paying $30/month per line for five years, and now i'm gonna get throttled at 2-3GB. UNACCEPTABLE. As soon as some info is released i'm gonna be all over this.
OCCUPY AT&T!!!
I was looking for that link just the other day. Another form has been submitted by myself over this throttling business. And yeah, I don't use over 200MB or so per month so this is just for those that have been dealing with this ****. It needs to be looked into by them as it's becoming quite ridiculous...
I do not use a lot of data either but I did keep my unlimited plan. I do not like the stance that AT&T has taken. I get that it costs a lot of money to provide the capacity and bandwidth that we want but the fact that no criteria for getting lumped in the top 5% have been provided is ridiculous.
I don't have unlimited but would love it but not with all of AT&Ts crap. I mean the simple term Unlimited implies "no limits"
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I mean the simple term Unlimited implies "no limits"
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That went out the window in the 1900's. These days, its only a marketing term. Like, "new and improved" 30 years ago, and "previously loved" 20 years ago. Oh, and how my cable modem (from comcast) is "always on".
pfft
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The thing that bothers me is that when I signed up for AT&T, I was pressured into getting the unlimited plan, which at the time meant that you could use up to 5GB. I realize that bandwidth is scarce in this day and age, but if they were planning on limiting us to 2 or 3 GB they should never had told us we were 'grandfathered' into our plans. At the very least they need to set a specific range for this 'top 5 percent' BS
I am probably not going to be liked for posting this, but I think that throttling should be based on how much network traffic they currently have, so for example in New York City, you will be throttled like crazy most of the time which is unfortunate but necessary, but in a rural area, throttling will most likely never happen, also at night, throttling would be rare too. I know this is an impractical idea, but if they're going to throttle, then this would make the MOST sense, because why would they need to throttle you if you're not slowing their network down, it just doesn't make any sense to me.
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I am probably not going to be liked for posting this, but I think that throttling should be based on how much network traffic they currently have, so for example in New York City, you will be throttled like crazy most of the time which is unfortunate but necessary, but in a rural area, throttling will most likely never happen, also at night, throttling would be rare too. I know this is an impractical idea, but if they're going to throttle, then this would make the MOST sense, because why would they need to throttle you if you're not slowing their network down, it just doesn't make any sense to me.
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so for someone who has tiered plan can run max speed up to however many GB every month (just gotta pay for the overage but you dont get throttled) while unlimited data user gets throttled to almost a halt after 2gb?
does that make sense?
a 4gb tiered user runs max speed up to 4gb every month, not considered top 5%
unlimited users runs up to 4gb a month, is considered top 5%, gets throttled after 2gb
I received the call back from The Office of The President and spoke to him about my fcc complaint. We spoke about how low the throttling is (.14Mb/s) and he said it shouldnt be that low from what he understands. It is only suppose to throttle low enough that streaming video and other streaming wont work properly. I let hom know that i hadn't streamed anything during the last month like netflix or any other streaming. I let him know that the BIGGEST things i have done data wise was i have to download files that are usually 100-300Mb occasionally for work. He said he couldnt remove the throttle for this month but is gonna dig deeper into things to make sure there wasnt any outages in my area and such which would explain the LOW .14Mb/s download speeds. I told him I usually( when not throttled) get at minimum 2-4Mb/s and near my work get 6-10Mb/s download speeds, so dropping down to .14 is plain unacceptable. He is going to look into these tjings and get back with me either by the end of this week or early next week. He also made sure i had his phone number to reach him back. So i will again update once I have more information.
ALSO if you aren"t on a UNLIMITED grandfathered plan and think THIS WONT HAPPEN TO ME. look at how ATT is now going to change rates for their plans now. It says you cn keep your plans or upgrade if you want. That is EXACTLY how it was for us with UNLIMITED data plans. So one day/someday ATT will make some changes that WILL effect you also and MAKE you pay the higher prices. Here is the article: http://news.yahoo.com/t-jacks-data-plan-prices-usage-booms-233528591.html
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I received the call back from The Office of The President and spoke to him about my fcc complaint. We spoke about how low the throttling is (.14Mb/s) and he said it shouldnt be that low from what he understands. It is only suppose to throttle low enough that streaming video and other streaming wont work properly. I let hom know that i hadn't streamed anything during the last month like netflix or any other streaming. I let him know that the BIGGEST things i have done data wise was i have to download files that are usually 100-300Mb occasionally for work. He said he couldnt remove the throttle for this month but is gonna dig deeper into things to make sure there wasnt any outages in my area and such which would explain the LOW .14Mb/s download speeds. I told him I usually( when not throttled) get at minimum 2-4Mb/s and near my work get 6-10Mb/s download speeds, so dropping down to .14 is plain unacceptable. He is going to look into these tjings and get back with me either by the end of this week or early next week. He also made sure i had his phone number to reach him back. So i will again update once I have more information.
ALSO if you aren"t on a UNLIMITED grandfathered plan and think THIS WONT HAPPEN TO ME. look at how ATT is now going to change rates for their plans now. It says you cn keep your plans or upgrade if you want. That is EXACTLY how it was for us with UNLIMITED data plans. So one day/someday ATT will make some changes that WILL effect you also and MAKE you pay the higher prices. Here is the article: http://news.yahoo.com/t-jacks-data-plan-prices-usage-booms-233528591.html
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Yeah, the current system of throttling is simply unusable. It's essentially the equivalent to completely disabling data.
How did you actually fill out that form? I want to file a complaint too. The fact that my data usage is continually falling and I'm getting put in this mythical 5% of users category. I wish there was some weirdo hippie way to occupy att by getting everyone to stream media for a weeks time.
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How did you actually fill out that form? I want to file a complaint too. The fact that my data usage is continually falling and I'm getting put in this mythical 5% of users category. I wish there was some weirdo hippie way to occupy att by getting everyone to stream media for a weeks time.
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If you follow the link in the OP it will take you to the fcc complaint site. Choose the wireless link on their page. It is basically just things to choose and write some details about. I am not sure how to further guide you over the net, but give it a try.
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If you follow the link in the OP it will take you to the fcc complaint site. Choose the wireless link on their page. It is basically just things to choose and write some details about. I am not sure how to further guide you over the net, but give it a try.
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Yeah I'm not that stupid. The forms don't really deal with exactly what our complaints are since att no longer advertises nor offers unlimited plans but that's the only choice that makes sense according to the form which is why I asked.
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Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
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Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
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Sprint LTE should be better if they ever arrive but I get decent speeds here in Oregon with T-Mobile and the west side has the least coverage.
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Sprint LTE should be better if they ever arrive but I get decent speeds here in Oregon with T-Mobile and the west side has the least coverage.
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Yea thats what I keep telling myself. But they did finally deploy LTE in an area near me... Barely worked. And I constantly got dropped calls, calls not coming through at all, missing texts, etc. Had to force LTE to stay off so I could actually use my phone.
I was sitting in Citibank making changes to my account. The customer service rep had to call me back on my own cellphone to verify my identity, so I sat there staring at my phone with 5 bars of LTE. No call. 5 mins later, I decide to turn off LTE, and call comes through. The woman said she kept calling but getting sent straight to voice mail =.=
I dont have much hope for them.. sigh.
And I just dont like the idea that I'm paying them monthly for basically no service.
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Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
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If you want to be safe, try to get a cheap T-Mobile compatible phone (I imagine someone you know has to have a crappy one laying around) and sign up for their prepaid plan. I think you can go day to day ($2 a day) or at least the $30/month plan. Give it a test drive. The SIM card activation kit will cost you $10 initially so it's $40 out of pocket to give it a test run. But it'll be a much more accurate view of how T-Mobile coverage is for your particular situation.
in my area tmo is way better i average 15-18 download 6-10 upload my friend who has sprint 1-3 download less than 1 upload
Yeah, do what that poster said, buy a T-Mobile Sim, and do the 30 a month prepaid and ask a friend or someone to lend you their phone and try it out. that what I would do actually, I had a friend who was with Sprint here in Oregon and was getting awful speed. He liked them because of the whole unlimited internet but i told him that having a capped data of 5gb a month that works is better than having unlimited data that doesnt work
Glad to hear Tmo is better than Sprint for you skinsfan, gives me some more hope.
And Wayne, True, not sure why I didnt think of that.. lol I guess I could just use my old G2 for a few days and try it out. Although I cant remember if my G2 has HSPA+... hm.
EDIT: Would still like to hear more opinions though. Switching over would be expensive enough as it is, if I can just be reassured more by other members, I think thats enough to convince me to switch over.
From what I've heard so far, from my friends, its definitely not as bad as Sprint. Whether its as good as ATT/Verizon is arguable. I know those two are definitely better when out of metropolitan areas. And Verizon is best for being in buildings/underground due to their use of the 700mhz band.
Any one have any idea how tethering really works with the unlimited 4G plan?
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Glad to hear Tmo is better than Sprint for you skinsfan, gives me some more hope.
And Wayne, True, not sure why I didnt think of that.. lol I guess I could just use my old G2 for a few days and try it out. Although I cant remember if my G2 has HSPA+... hm.
EDIT: Would still like to hear more opinions though. Switching over would be expensive enough as it is, if I can just be reassured more by other members, I think thats enough to convince me to switch over.
From what I've heard so far, from my friends, its definitely not as bad as Sprint. Whether its as good as ATT/Verizon is arguable. I know those two are definitely better when out of metropolitan areas. And Verizon is best for being in buildings/underground due to their use of the 700mhz band.
Any one have any idea how tethering really works with the unlimited 4G plan?
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you have to pay extra for it unless your on a custom rom with the unlocked tethering mod but tethering is free with the 2.5 gb 4glte plan i have
nice, so it sounds like they havent changed their tethering policies since I last used them.
Had to run CM on my old HTC G2 in order to tether to my tablet/laptop and not pay for their hotspot service.
Tethering is incredibly important to me.. mainly since my office doesnt allow WiFi for unauthorized personal devices (security issues) =.=
Just to clarify, tethering is unlimited on all data plans on Tmobile except for unlimited which has a 500mb cap. However all plans are actually unlimited data, the data cap is for full speed.
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Just to clarify, tethering is unlimited on all data plans on Tmobile except for unlimited which has a 500mb cap. However all plans are actually unlimited data, the data cap is for full speed.
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Hmm.. So let me make sure I get this right.
If you have the 500MB or 2.5GB Data Plan, you have full speed tethering/data until you hit your limit, then you can continue to tether/use data at 2G speeds.
If you have the unlimited plan, you have full speed on your phone always, but tethering is limited to 500MB. Once you hit the 500, do they just block you from tethering? Or can you continue to tether at limited speeds?
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Hmm.. So let me make sure I get this right.
If you have the 500MB or 2.5GB Data Plan, you have full speed tethering/data until you hit your limit, then you can continue to tether/use data at 2G speeds.
If you have the unlimited plan, you have full speed on your phone always, but tethering is limited to 500MB. Once you hit the 500, do they just block you from tethering? Or can you continue to tether at limited speeds?
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I believe that's correct but I dunno what happens when you hit your cap. I'm not actually on Tmobile, I'm on at&t but me and my wife both have nexus 4s and it's actually cheaper for me to switch not and eat my etf rather than wait till the end of my contract so I've been heavily researching it. I really want unlimited data so I can use google play music without worrying about hitting my cap within a week
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nice, so it sounds like they havent changed their tethering policies since I last used them.
Had to run CM on my old HTC G2 in order to tether to my tablet/laptop and not pay for their hotspot service.
Tethering is incredibly important to me.. mainly since my office doesnt allow WiFi for unauthorized personal devices (security issues) =.=
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yea but most of the sense based roms have included it on the international forum so no need to have aosp for free tethering anymore
Ohh soo tempting to just switch asap.
Thanks for the help guys.
I would miss my QWERTY keyboard on this Photon Q though. Its basically the one and only redeeming feature >.> lol
How is typing on the HTC One? I was never able to really get used to swype on my phone :|
Wonder if I can restrict myself to screen typing only with my current phone, so I can get used to it.
i have both sprint and tmobile... tmobile is much better as for as 4g speeds.. it keeps up with verizon and att lte sprint doesnt keep up for anything.. tmobile is building their lte and should launch this summer in newark nj.. i have an apt in newark and central jersey.
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Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
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Well, I'm in the Phoenix market, but I'll give you my experience as I switched from Sprint to T-Mobile. Being in the 5th largest market with no 4G coverage since I joined Sprint in Sep 2010 has been frustrating. This is mainly what led me to leave them. As you mentioned, unlimited data isn't worth much of anything if you can't get data at a decent speed. Kinda like being in a chugging contest with a straw! Anyway, I've had T-Mobile for about a week now and it is so nice to be able to use your phone to look information up or browse the web. I envisioned myself doing that when I joined Sprint, but never used my phone for those type of activities due to the speed limitations. Now, I have occasional LTE, but mostly 4G as I run around the Valley here. The 4G is way faster than anything I experienced at Sprint. Again, I don't know how the NY market is shaking out. One other reason for me to switch to T-Mobile, believe it or not, was price.
I'm a face to face kind of guy, so I went to a T-Mobile store. I told the T-Mobile rep that I was going to have to get out of Sprint ($80.08/month) and had a early termination fee of $160 (contract ends in Feb 2014). He said that he could apply a $100 credit to my next billing period to help on that front. Also, depending on the sales guy you get, ask for a percentage discount. I got an 18% discount on my bill (your mileage may vary, depending on how the rep wants to stretch). Anyway, tax/title/tags out the door with a monthly bill of $62.45 for unlimited everything!
I'm going to switch my wife from Verizon (17% discount from work and 2GB/month paying $97.18/month) and get her unlimited everything added to my T-Mobile acct. Our bill will be $107/month. With her Verizon and my Sprint bill every month, we were paying $177/month. Love saving me $70/month to spend elsewhere!
Good luck and don't be afraid to ask for credit for ETF and a percentage discount.
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i have both sprint and tmobile... tmobile is much better as for as 4g speeds.. it keeps up with verizon and att lte sprint doesnt keep up for anything.. tmobile is building their lte and should launch this summer in newark nj.. i have an apt in newark and central jersey.
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Thanks! My office is in Newark, so I definitely want to have good service out here lol.
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Well, I'm in the Phoenix market, but I'll give you my experience as I switched from Sprint to T-Mobile. Being in the 5th largest market with no 4G coverage since I joined Sprint in Sep 2010 has been frustrating. This is mainly what led me to leave them. As you mentioned, unlimited data isn't worth much of anything if you can't get data at a decent speed. Kinda like being in a chugging contest with a straw! Anyway, I've had T-Mobile for about a week now and it is so nice to be able to use your phone to look information up or browse the web. I envisioned myself doing that when I joined Sprint, but never used my phone for those type of activities due to the speed limitations. Now, I have occasional LTE, but mostly 4G as I run around the Valley here. The 4G is way faster than anything I experienced at Sprint. Again, I don't know how the NY market is shaking out. One other reason for me to switch to T-Mobile, believe it or not, was price.
I'm a face to face kind of guy, so I went to a T-Mobile store. I told the T-Mobile rep that I was going to have to get out of Sprint ($80.08/month) and had a early termination fee of $160 (contract ends in Feb 2014). He said that he could apply a $100 credit to my next billing period to help on that front. Also, depending on the sales guy you get, ask for a percentage discount. I got an 18% discount on my bill (your mileage may vary, depending on how the rep wants to stretch). Anyway, tax/title/tags out the door with a monthly bill of $62.45 for unlimited everything!
I'm going to switch my wife from Verizon (17% discount from work and 2GB/month paying $97.18/month) and get her unlimited everything added to my T-Mobile acct. Our bill will be $107/month. With her Verizon and my Sprint bill every month, we were paying $177/month. Love saving me $70/month to spend elsewhere!
Good luck and don't be afraid to ask for credit for ETF and a percentage discount.
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Oooh interesting... I called them up last week and asked if they could help me out in any way since my ETF would be hefty ($350.. ugh) but the guy on the phone said there was nothing he could do.
I'll try going into an actual store later today.
Question, did you go to a corporate store (big fancy ones) or one of the smaller authorized dealers?
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Thanks! My office is in Newark, so I definitely want to have good service out here lol.
Oooh interesting... I called them up last week and asked if they could help me out in any way since my ETF would be hefty ($350.. ugh) but the guy on the phone said there was nothing he could do.
I'll try going into an actual store later today.
Question, did you go to a corporate store (big fancy ones) or one of the smaller authorized dealers?
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Hey Nip, I went to a corporate store. Hell, if you wanna try, I'll give you the guys name/number. Maybe he can set you up outside your state and ship it to you!
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Hey Nip, I went to a corporate store. Hell, if you wanna try, I'll give you the guys name/number. Maybe he can set you up outside your state and ship it to you!
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that would be great, thanks!
Actually guys I switched from unlimited 3G/text and I think it was 900 shared min at sprint and hopped on T-Mobile with unlimited 4G LTE/text and 1000 shared min. I pay $150 a month, but only because were paying off our phones(I have the HTC One and she has the GS4). I haven't regretted it one bit. Also since LA got lit up with LTE its been awesome.
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well this isn't going to be good for some of us....
http://arstechnica.com/information-...mited-data-customers-who-use-over-100gbmonth/
I only avg 20 GB a month or less. I pay $20 a month for udp
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well this isn't going to be good for some of us....
http://arstechnica.com/information-...mited-data-customers-who-use-over-100gbmonth/
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I don't really feel sorry for those who use 100+ GB/month. Those are the users that prompted the removal of the unlimited plans to start with. You can scream "unlimited is unlimited" if you want but its Verizon's sandbox and they make the rules.
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I don't really feel sorry for those who use 100+ GB/month. Those are the users that prompted the removal of the unlimited plans to start with. You can scream "unlimited is unlimited" if you want but its Verizon's sandbox and they make the rules.
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Agreed...there comes a point (about 100 GB a month) where it becomes an "unjust enrichment" for the end user....and this is why we cannot have nice things lol
I'm surprised Verizon didn't go the route of...well the unlimited data plan started in the days of 2G/3G only...so that's the only unlimited data you get...when you are on 2G/3G.
Maybe I shouldn't give them any ideas... :/
agreed. I live out in the boonies, I am on 1x and sometimes 3g. my internet is only dsl at 2.5Mbps (3g speeds) ... so whenever I hit 4g on my phone, I do everything with it. so i sometimes rack up 70gb+ a month. especially when im at work ..teamviewer, netflix, streaming cameras setup at various locations, music is always going, showbox, kodi (tends to use a lot more data than other streaming apps)... the data rack up quick.
Has anyone actually reported receiving a letter yet ?
I use it as primary internet. Been paying for it for so long. Screw paying $60+ a month for cable that is the same speed but doesn't offer the same capabilities that cellular data does. I rack up over 100gb a month but it's a business account so i doubt they will cut me off.
The fcc does nothing about the internet monopoly in my area because it's not considered a monopoly because wireless internet is considered an option. When verizon charges what they do for internet it clearly isn't an option. We all know verizon can afford to give you more GB's at a lower price.
Most of the infrastructure is already in place and they are paying purely for maintenance at this point. And when they are talking about faster speeds with xlte and lte-a they are expecting you to use more data but have no plans on reducing the cost per gb. Faster speeds means a larger resource pool to tap into. The excuse that heavy udp users are decreasing the speeds for others is basically a thing of the past at this point.
Honestly it's all bs marketing and political manipulation. Tell me why countries in the EU can offer unlimited lte data for 35 euoros a month, which people use as their primary internet source, if this isn't the case?
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Agreed...there comes a point (about 100 GB a month) where it becomes an "unjust enrichment" for the end user....and this is why we cannot have nice things lol
I'm surprised Verizon didn't go the route of...well the unlimited data plan started in the days of 2G/3G only...so that's the only unlimited data you get...when you are on 2G/3G.
Maybe I shouldn't give them any ideas... :/
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And why R u saying at 100 gigs a month? Why this amount? Unjust? U r an idiot in perspective. Unjust =Hilary Clinton's Fuk'n National security (knowingly) and walking free. Unjust= people like me or in my "group" pay more in taxes than the "wealthy." UNJUST=VERIZON lying about the effects people such as myself have on "their" network I pay for by using what U stated over "100 gigs" monthly. OPEN UR EYE'S FRIENDS, $$MONEY$$ $$MILLIONS IN BONUSES$$ U should have Verizon show you this "negative" effect. Lol, in words and writing sure but 100% accurate proof including data analysis by 3rd party/partys not Affiliated whatsoever with Verizon does not/will never exhist cause its a story kinda like the Easter Bunny. Do you people not understand the technology that we are using and the capabilities at our hands? The 1% of customers with unlimited data is not something that would be an issue unless it was about money my friend. Do your research think about it come on, look what they're doing in Switzerland.
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I don't really feel sorry for those who use 100+ GB/month. Those are the users that prompted the removal of the unlimited plans to start with. You can scream "unlimited is unlimited" if you want but its Verizon's sandbox and they make the rules.
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Ummm?? "UNLIMITED DATA" Do know what that means? Lol, prompted!!! $$$$
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Dammmmmmmm, I got the letter today telling me as of February 17th I will be terminated unless I select a new plan since they're pulling my unlimited data.
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1droidmod said:
Dammmmmmmm, I got the letter today telling me as of February 17th I will be terminated unless I select a new plan since they're pulling my unlimited data.
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More than 200gigs a month I suppose?
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dottat said:
More than 200gigs a month I suppose?
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Maybe on average.. Some months around 500 and others 100. Feb 17th I say "GOOD<--->BYE" to VZW (they terminate unless I select a plan) after 10 f*$#ing years... not too sure what I'm going to do yet but obviously I cannot afford to stay with VZW..
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And why R u saying at 100 gigs a month? Why this amount? Unjust? U r an idiot in perspective. Unjust =Hilary Clinton's Fuk'n National security (knowingly) and walking free. Unjust= people like me or in my "group" pay more in taxes than the "wealthy." UNJUST=VERIZON lying about the effects people such as myself have on "their" network I pay for by using what U stated over "100 gigs" monthly. OPEN UR EYE'S FRIENDS, $$MONEY$$ $$MILLIONS IN BONUSES$$ U should have Verizon show you this "negative" effect. Lol, in words and writing sure but 100% accurate proof including data analysis by 3rd party/partys not Affiliated whatsoever with Verizon does not/will never exhist cause its a story kinda like the Easter Bunny. Do you people not understand the technology that we are using and the capabilities at our hands? The 1% of customers with unlimited data is not something that would be an issue unless it was about money my friend. Do your research think about it come on, look what they're doing in Switzerland.
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You should send Verizon Customer Service this coherent, well thought out argument...I'm sure they will reconnect your UDP in no time....lol
Wait a second, I am currently experience a minor heart attack! They are CANCELING your UDP?!
I have not received a letter regarding this, is anyone else receiving this letter?
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/01/09/verizon-unlimited-data-200gb-limit/
I average 12GB/month (which is NOT heavy use at all) and received my letter informing my UDP is being terminated as of Feb 16. I have complained to both of my local stores and the customer service call center to no avail. I was told that once the letter was sent my fate was sealed.
armorer243 said:
I average 12GB/month (which is NOT heavy use at all) and received my letter informing my UDP is being terminated as of Feb 16. I have complained to both of my local stores and the customer service call center to no avail. I was told that once the letter was sent my fate was sealed.
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I read online last night T-Mobile has been gaining twice as many new customers as Verizon since Verizon's been pulling their $*it.
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1droidmod said:
I read online last night T-Mobile has been gaining twice as many new customers as Verizon since Verizon's been pulling their $*it.
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They will regret it, T-Mobiles service, at least here is so spotty its not even worth paying for. When my wife had it she had to use my wifi tethering just to use her phone half the time we went anywhere.
200gb a month is plenty, but the problem is the price of the new plans they want you on. Id never pay those rediculous prices.
But unlimited should be unlimited, i understand that too, but 500gb people... Come on now, that is a little excessive. I don't even come close to that downloading movies all day on my home cable network. So i can see where verizon is coming from. Fair usage.
I am sticking with my Verizon UDP for now, but i have also bought my wife a new phone on at&t's DirecTV unlimited plan that's up to 4 devices just incase verizon pulls out more bs. Figured id jump on that and get grandfathered on that also, since in my area at&t is second best if not identical to Verizon's coverage.
Sprint and T-Mobile are out if the question for me, been there done that.
afuller42 said:
200gb a month is plenty, but the problem is the price of the new plans they want you on. Id never pay those rediculous prices.
But unlimited should be unlimited, i understand that too, but 500gb people... Come on now, that is a little excessive. I don't even come close to that downloading movies all day on my home cable network. So i can see where verizon is coming from. Fair usage.
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I agree with you on that one, 200GB/month is a bit excessive and almost abusive to the network load. But for those of us that use 12GB and end up getting our plans yanked from us is insulting. I know I purposefully sought out wifi wherever I could to keep unnecessary use of network resources to a minimum. This is the thanks I was given for my consideration.
To say I feel insulted is putting it lightly.
armorer243 said:
I agree with you on that one, 200GB/month is a bit excessive and almost abusive to the network load. But for those of us that use 12GB and end up getting our plans yanked from us is insulting. I know I purposefully sought out wifi wherever I could to keep unnecessary use of network resources to a minimum. This is the thanks I was given for my consideration.
To say I feel insulted is putting it lightly.
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Oh I feel insulted for you as well. 12GB is not that bad at all. I average 45gb and have not received a letter yet. This whole ordeal is ridiculous. I would rather they implement a cap on the unlimited, like say 100GB or even 40GB and then slow us way down instead of just straight up removing us.