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This sucks!
I've rooted and circumvented Sprints Hotspots service for a year now.
Not sure if that's the way to go for me anymore.
This Verizon news really makes me appreciate Sprint's unlimited data scheme now.
But..they are cracking down on data abusers now...tracking big users and even sites visited indicating hacked tethering use and roaming totals...dropping people with excessive data use.
Concerned they'll end up saying screw it and implement data caps.
I value unlimited Sprint plans enough that, out of principle I'm considering just forking over the monthly $...perhaps getting on a favored list lol!
u wiggin on us dood?
rockky said:
http://andgeeks.com/google-android/service-providers/verizons-tiered-data-plan-makes-waves-883214/
This sucks!
I've rooted and circumvented Sprints Hotspots service for a year now.
Not sure if that's the way to go for me anymore.
This Verizon news really makes me appreciate Sprint's unlimited data scheme now.
But..they are cracking down on data abusers now...tracking big users and even sites visited indicating hacked tethering use and roaming totals...dropping people with excessive data use.
Concerned they'll end up saying screw it and implement data caps.
I value unlimited Sprint plans enough that, out of principle I'm considering just forking over the monthly $...perhaps getting on a favored list lol!
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Doesn't matter, those who have unlimited will probably be grandfathered into unlimited data.
rockky said:
http://andgeeks.com/google-android/service-providers/verizons-tiered-data-plan-makes-waves-883214/
This sucks!
I've rooted and circumvented Sprints Hotspots service for a year now.
Not sure if that's the way to go for me anymore.
This Verizon news really makes me appreciate Sprint's unlimited data scheme now.
But..they are cracking down on data abusers now...tracking big users and even sites visited indicating hacked tethering use and roaming totals...dropping people with excessive data use.
Concerned they'll end up saying screw it and implement data caps.
I value unlimited Sprint plans enough that, out of principle I'm considering just forking over the monthly $...perhaps getting on a favored list lol!
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no kidding. I checked and will clear 20 gigs this month...lol
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eXplicit815 said:
Doesn't matter, those who have unlimited will probably be grandfathered into unlimited data.
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More importantly, they're still (as of radio ad yesterday) using unlimited data as a selling point for their phones.
NewZJ said:
u wiggin on us dood?
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Lol...maybe! But I have a couple buds who moved to ATT, and I tried a phone out there myself....and that 2G cap is ridiculous! Seriously.
I guess the issue is whether you use the tethering abusively or not... I use it to provide wifi to my tablet on the road (it is used in lieu of the phone) and in the car when my kids are in the back with their notebook (once in a while). Overall my usage is consistent with a my phone usage as ...
As far as limiting it the bandwidth, they already are doing it by reducing your connection speed. Less Speed = less debit = less sharing!
So far...
Its going to happen eventually regardless.
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More importantly, they're still (as of radio ad yesterday) using unlimited data as a selling point for their phones.
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The fact that they don't limit or even slow you down when you reach 5 gigs of services is why I switched back to sprint.
You sure about that. I've heard varying takes on that.
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I guess the issue is whether you use the tethering abusively or not... I use it to provide wifi to my tablet on the road (it is used in lieu of the phone) and in the car when my kids are in the back with their notebook (once in a while). Overall my usage is consistent with a my phone usage as ...
As far as limiting it the bandwidth, they already are doing it by reducing your connection speed. Less Speed = less debit = less sharing!
So far...
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You sure about that. I've heard varying takes on that.
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It's going to happen cause people are greedy and are gonna continue to do it whether we like it or not. Sprint will eventually make us pay for the tiered data plans, its going to happen. I hate thinking bad ****, but this is one of those things that I really think is inevitable.
The few screwing it up for the rest of us...go figure.
heathmcabee said:
It's going to happen cause people are greedy and are gonna continue to do it whether we like it or not. Sprint will eventually make us pay for the tiered data plans, its going to happen. I hate thinking bad ****, but this is one of those things that I really think is inevitable.
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I won't say it'll never happen.. But, the unlimited data is one of the few perks that brings in/keeps customers for Sprint. I haven't been treated badly by Sprint, but I've got no reason to remain loyal for loyalty's sake.
I doubt they will. Over time most data will become wireless anyway. Once all is on 4G or LTE, it won't matter the bandwidth as much. Sprint already charges more for premium data anyway. Not to mention their voice coverage sucks and the unlimited plan is what helps them keep customers. I would switch to Verizon as soon as Sprint says the unlimited plan is changing.
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I Don't know alot about it but is there really a differance between using Pandora,Netflix,dishnetwork,ect..... on my tethered gtablet compared to directly on my phone. Not sure......But it does enables me and my kids to enjoy this entertanment in the car without totaly tieing up my phone....Thats just my opion
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I doubt they will. Over time most data will become wireless anyway. Once all is on 4G or LTE, it won't matter the bandwidth as much. Sprint already charges more for premium data anyway. Not to mention their voice coverage sucks and the unlimited plan is what helps them keep customers. I would switch to Verizon as soon as Sprint says the unlimited plan is changing.
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100% agree on all fronts.
Their CS is fantastic, bar none...but without truly unlimited data I no longer give a **** about that. If I have to pick between the big 3.....AT&T would have the fastest 3G and most pervasive 4G...Verizon would have the best "all around" pricing and fastest 4G and Sprint would have....what? The worst coverage AND crappy plans but pleasant customer service? No thanks. I'll take verizon.
...I hate AT&T with a passion. I have them for home internet service. I have never in my life been treated so poorly by a service I pay for....paying a bill over the phone or online is a gigantic pain in the ass...and I have never ever had a service shut off for paying a service IN FULL, EARLY until I had the modern-day incarnation of AT&T....and I am far from alone on that.
This is Sprint's ace in the hole...well, that and Google recently buddying up with them....but...lacking unlimited data they have no compelling reason to stick around.
Flash473 said:
I Don't know alot about it but is there really a differance between using Pandora,Netflix,dishnetwork,ect..... on my tethered gtablet compared to directly on my phone. Not sure......But it does enables me and my kids to enjoy this entertanment in the car without totaly tieing up my phone....Thats just my opion
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As far as data usage, not really. However, it increases the potential for additional/more data usage as you might not of loaded it on your phone if that was the only option.
Personally, any reasonable usage is fine. Big difference between checking email on a tethered laptop.. and torrenting.
RaphB said:
I guess the issue is whether you use the tethering abusively or not... I use it to provide wifi to my tablet on the road (it is used in lieu of the phone) and in the car when my kids are in the back with their notebook (once in a while). Overall my usage is consistent with a my phone usage as ...
As far as limiting it the bandwidth, they already are doing it by reducing your connection speed. Less Speed = less debit = less sharing!
So far...
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This pretty much describes my tethering usage, except the kids part.
I like the leaked plans from AT&T for their LTE pricing. This is based off of what Lulsec stole today, but apparently AT&T is going to go with speed tiers when their LTE is released instead of bandwidth caps, you just pay for how fast you want your internet. To me that makes more sense.
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As far as data usage, not really. However, it increases the potential for additional/more data usage as you might not of loaded it on your phone if that was the only option.
Personally, any reasonable usage is fine. Big difference between checking email on a tethered laptop.. and torrenting.
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Yeah, umm, unless that torrent download is an absolute emergency (and I actually have been in that situation before...on the road at a trade show....needed a kinda huge file I had hosted at home....) you are just torrenting tethered off your phone to show off...even 4G sucks relative to even a basic cable-modem connection.....
I think the people who use 10+gb a month tethering illegally should take a step back and think about what they're doing. Just pay the price every month to tether the right way. Because once you guys really piss Sprint off, that 20gb you use every month is going to cost a fortune thanks to the tiered data policy they will enact. Then you'll be paying MORE than you would have if you had paid for the tethering.
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So how much data do you norm use? How much have you ever used? What are your typical data speeds?
Previously for me, the most I had used was just over 25GB in one billing cyle (im grandfathered in for Unlim data).
Well this month I wanted to see what kind of damage I could do. Eventhough I didnt start using HEAVY data till the 18th of Jan (my cycle is the 1st-1st), I still used A LOT.
Keep in mind that not even 1 full GB was due to tethering. It was almost 100% on my phone.
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So how much data do you norm use? How much have you ever used? What are your typical data speeds?
Previously for me, the most I had used was just over 25GB in one billing cyle (im grandfathered in for Unlim data).
Well this month I wanted to see what kind of damage I could do. Eventhough I didnt start using HEAVY data till the 18th of Jan (my cycle is the 1st-1st), I still used A LOT.
Keep in mind that not even 1 full GB was due to tethering. It was almost 100% on my phone.
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Holy hell... certainly getting your moneys worth, eh? lol
I'm at 57.523 GB on VZW for this cycle....
We had some annual refresher training for work...and all my buddies were using my hotspot. And I do use it for my tabs also.....and I flash a lot of roms so therefore have a lot of downloads.
I've been a long time customer of VZW (approx 15 years) and normally I avg 5 to 10gb per month, but this darn 4G is so addicting.
Wow, you guys are insane (in the good way). I barely pull a measely 1GB monthly on my phone. Perhaps I should start tethering my phone to my laptop and watching Netflix shows regularly.
I did 4 last month, and I had 4g for 2 weeks max. I use Wifi a lot, so that cuts down on my data use..
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blkrabb1t said:
I did 4 last month, and I had 4g for 2 weeks max. I use Wifi a lot, so that cuts down on my data use..
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Yeah, same here. WIFI at home with a 100Mbps internet connection. 4G/LTE is great, but doesn't stand up to my broadband connection.
xxspark89xx said:
Yeah, same here. WIFI at home with a 100Mbps internet connection. 4G/LTE is great, but doesn't stand up to my broadband connection.
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ive hit 2.2MB (yes, MEGA BYTES) download before. I was at work on a full 4G connection and some good seeds on a torrent haha
Fastest speed test ive gotten:
On 3G? LOL
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I hit ~6gb for January and I only have 3g lol.
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I hit 20gb last month. and that was mostly tethering. Like got556 said, 4g is very addicitive
wtf!! in france we have 1GB/month if we pass it, the speed is slow down!! and we just have 3G not 4G! i think we are very late
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On 3G? LOL
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I hit ~6gb for January and I only have 3g lol.
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last Nov i hit 25 on 3G
Usually no less than 1GB never have gone over 6GB... yet. I have unlimited data so I am hoping to break that 6GB personal record soon enough.
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So as we all know.. last billing cycle i used over 100GB of data.
Today i went in and dropped off my parents plan, my wife dropped Sprint and we started our own plan. I made sure that my unlim data was staying with me.
So everything was taken care of and while we were setting up my wifes new phone, she picked up the Droid 4, the rep who was helping us said he had to take care of something urgent on our plan. Ummm ok...
So after the phone was done i walk over to him and ask whats up. He said the unlim data didnt stick annnnnnnnnnnnd ive got an overage charge from data.
The
Biggest
Overage
Charge
He's
Ever
Seen.
It was just over $52,000 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I didnt believe him so he turned the screen and showed me. I BEGGED if I could take a pic but his manager was right next to him and he said no
But in the end it was taken care of and ive still got my unlim data :lol:
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So as we all know.. last billing cycle i used over 100GB of data.
Today i went in and dropped off my parents plan, my wife dropped Sprint and we started our own plan. I made sure that my unlim data was staying with me.
So everything was taken care of and while we were setting up my wifes new phone, she picked up the Droid 4, the rep who was helping us said he had to take care of something urgent on our plan. Ummm ok...
So after the phone was done i walk over to him and ask whats up. He said the unlim data didnt stick annnnnnnnnnnnd ive got an overage charge from data.
The
Biggest
Overage
Charge
He's
Ever
Seen.
It was just over $52,000 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I didnt believe him so he turned the screen and showed me. I BEGGED if I could take a pic but his manager was right next to him and he said no
But in the end it was taken care of and ive still got my unlim data :lol:
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Wow that's INSANE!!!!!!!! How did you manage to hit 100GB? Lol So I'm guessing everything was fixed and u didn't have to pay? Lol
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stupidchicken03 said:
So as we all know.. last billing cycle i used over 100GB of data.
Today i went in and dropped off my parents plan, my wife dropped Sprint and we started our own plan. I made sure that my unlim data was staying with me.
So everything was taken care of and while we were setting up my wifes new phone, she picked up the Droid 4, the rep who was helping us said he had to take care of something urgent on our plan. Ummm ok...
So after the phone was done i walk over to him and ask whats up. He said the unlim data didnt stick annnnnnnnnnnnd ive got an overage charge from data.
The
Biggest
Overage
Charge
He's
Ever
Seen.
It was just over $52,000 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I didnt believe him so he turned the screen and showed me. I BEGGED if I could take a pic but his manager was right next to him and he said no
But in the end it was taken care of and ive still got my unlim data :lol:
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*bows down* wow...i meesly do 5gigs...my gf did 61gigs...but to hear 100gigs is crazy. Oh yea my gf data is all on her phone too. No tethering
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stupidchicken03 said:
So how much data do you norm use? How much have you ever used? What are your typical data speeds?
Previously for me, the most I had used was just over 25GB in one billing cyle (im grandfathered in for Unlim data).
Well this month I wanted to see what kind of damage I could do. Eventhough I didnt start using HEAVY data till the 18th of Jan (my cycle is the 1st-1st), I still used A LOT.
Keep in mind that not even 1 full GB was due to tethering. It was almost 100% on my phone.
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This is just blatant abuse of the unlimited data plan. No offense but I'm also rooted and have the free wireless tethering app and I barely go over 5gigs/month. Why anyone would purposely be a big humongous blip on Verizon's radar and openly brag about it is beyond me. I believe most of us that are rooted try to fly below the radar like me and not abuse the unlimited data plan. Like I said no offense, but it was customers like you that was one of the many reasons why the big wigs in big reds glass towers decided to end the unlimited data plan and move towards the tiered data plans.
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kimo91 said:
This is just blatant abuse of the unlimited data plan. No offense but I'm also rooted and have the free wireless tethering app and I barely go over 5gigs/month. Why anyone would purposely be a big humongous blip on Verizon's radar and openly brag about it is beyond me. I believe most of us that are rooted try to fly below the radar like me and not abuse the unlimited data plan. Like I said no offense, but it was customers like you that was one of the many reasons why the big wigs in big reds glass towers decided to end the unlimited data plan and move towards the tiered data plans.
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Ive heard of ppl CONSISTENTLY hitting 50+ gigs month after month..
I did this just to see at what point they would throttle me.. and it never happened.
Even on a normal month just using Netflix, few hours of Pandora each day, and torrent a tv episode a couple times a week.. Im regularly hitting 6-10 GB with ZERO tethering.
lol $52,000 holy crap man!
Well my post earlier I topped out at 68gb....and I'm only at 1GB this cycle
I had a lot going on the last cycle to bring it that high. I mean I have to purposely try to get above 10 to 20 gb....
Wow 102 GB is insane. .. I use an avg of 4 GB per week . Data is cheap in Airtel India ..
4 GB comes around 6 dollars.
Just thought I should share my thoughts regarding my latest warranty exchange....my WiFi was having issues on stock Rom unrooted so I called Verizon and see what they could offer.
Battery pull and network refresh(really? I didn't know WiFi was part of the Verizon network but OK)
Factory reset(I though alright atleast were in the right area....)
Finally she proceeded to order me a replacement while telling me that Verizon doesn't tolerate abuse of the network or altering of devices, I asked why do you believe its altered and where is this abuse of your network? she replies, you use an extreme amount of data that is not likely to be consumed soley on the phone.
I couldn't stop laughing, I HONESTLY asked her if she got that from an episode of CSI? I then told her my unlimited plan doesn't include a clause for intruding questions about assumptions on how I use my phone. She quickly backed off and gave me a tracking number for the shipping.
I just was truly caught off guard after the years of having my plan and NEVER being questioned like this LOL....just my interaction and wanted to pass it along
Out of curiosity how much data was it? If you'd happen to know ?
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Unlimited!
Last month I used 96GB. I'm only half way through this billing cycle and already up to 52GB
-4ndr01d- said:
Last month I used 96GB. I'm only half way through this billing cycle and already up to 52GB
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Holly Crap Batman thats a lota data but you have the right to use it. Thats why the plan is called "Unlimited" right?
zone23 said:
Holly Crap Batman thats a lota data but you have the right to use it. Thats why the plan is called "Unlimited" right?
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That's what I'm saying.
When I called Verizon the week of the DNA launch, I asked the local store if they would have any devices in on that day. The rep asked me if I was upgrading my line and if I was he tried to sell me the SG3. I told him I was not upgrading, I didn't want that pos, and am planning to buy the DNA at retail price. His statement I clearly remember "Why on earth would you pay $600 for THAT phone when clearly you are eligible and able to get a better phone for $99" ... I said nicely that I would like to keep my unlimited data plan. Then he asked me, how much data do I use on a monthly basis ... I replied, usually 30-40GB+ depending. He said "depending?!! that much data should not be allowed, how can one person abuse Verizon..." I just interrupted him loudly saying ...I have UNLIMITED, UNLIMITED means there is no LIMIT! and hung up.
Since then, I blow my data out the water. Hit over 100GB last month myself and plan to do it continually
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That's what I'm saying.
When I called Verizon the week of the DNA launch, I asked the local store if they would have any devices in on that day. The rep asked me if I was upgrading my line and if I was he tried to sell me the SG3. I told him I was not upgrading, I didn't want that pos, and am planning to buy the DNA at retail price. His statement I clearly remember "Why on earth would you pay $600 for THAT phone when clearly you are eligible and able to get a better phone for $99" ... I said nicely that I would like to keep my unlimited data plan. Then he asked me, how much data do I use on a monthly basis ... I replied, usually 30-40GB+ depending. He said "depending?!! that much data should not be allowed, how can one person abuse Verizon..." I just interrupted him loudly saying ...I have UNLIMITED, UNLIMITED means there is no LIMIT! and hung up.
Since then, I blow my data out the water. Hit over 100GB last month myself and plan to do it continually
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I just think it's funny that people try to say the unlimited plans were taken away "because of people like you". The reality is that Verizon got rid of unlimited plans because they want to make more money. It has very little to do with the few people here and there who "abuse" their unlimited data.
I personally have unlimited and use as little as 2GB or as much as 10GB on any given month...
cc16177 said:
I just think it's funny that people try to say the unlimited plans were taken away "because of people like you". The reality is that Verizon got rid of unlimited plans because they want to make more money. It has very little to do with the few people here and there who "abuse" their unlimited data.
I personally have unlimited and use as little as 2GB or as much as 10GB on any given month...
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Netflix, Downloading ROMs, DropBox (Auto-Upload:I take a lot of pictures and videos) YouTube, Google Music (have no problem streaming 2GB a day worth of music)
So I'm not really "abusing" I'm just taking advantage of my unlimited data, especially since the DNA only has a set amount of storage.
Now me downloading the Windows 7/SP1 ISO files from Microsoft every day would be "abusing" yet still legit
and it is all about Verizon wanting more money... They charging you for data usage and selling you phones without sdcards, forcing you to use their data to use your cloud storage
I think Verizon is "abusing" us!
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Netflix, Downloading ROMs, DropBox (Auto-Upload:I take a lot of pictures and videos) YouTube, Google Music (have no problem streaming 2GB a day worth of music)
So I'm not really "abusing" I'm just taking advantage of my unlimited data, especially since the DNA only has a set amount of storage.
Now me downloading the Windows 7/SP1 ISO files from Microsoft every day would be "abusing" yet still legit
and it is all about Verizon wanting more money... They charging you for data usage and selling you phones without sdcards, forcing you to use their data to use your cloud storage
I think Verizon is "abusing" us!
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I agree, Work got me on trips all the time. When at hotels, WiFi costs extra. My phone is the alternative... That uses majority me data there.
I went the route of adding an extra line to get my DNA, came out cheaper that retail!
$199 - for phone with contract
$240 - $10/month for the extra line (2yrs)
$30 - they activate data on the line, switch your two phones then cut the data off the secondary line
I got my DNA for a little over $480 with a pack of 5 free screen protectors lol
My experience with Verizon's customer service has been horrible. If Sprint had the coverage of Verizon, I would still be with them. They finally made things right with me when I was able to do an early upgrade to get my Droid DNA. I was ready to jump back to Sprint lol
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Out of curiosity how much data was it? If you'd happen to know ?
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Well this month it was roughly 132gb as I recall, I've gotten as high as 200gb before. Bottom line is I pay for unlimited and have had this plan going on six years so lets see 12x6=72x30=2160. That's 2,160 reasons why I don't need to explain myself about how or why I use my phone
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I hope you all know eventually they are going to remove the unlimited data plan from everyone. Even when I had unlimited my 3g speeds were so slow on my old phone I never used it, I never even hit 1gb and I still haven't. The most I have ever used was 500mb. But I guess you guys can do as you please since you have unlimited. They can't stop you until they take it away...
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JWhetstone02 said:
Netflix, Downloading ROMs, DropBox (Auto-Upload:I take a lot of pictures and videos) YouTube, Google Music (have no problem streaming 2GB a day worth of music)
So I'm not really "abusing" I'm just taking advantage of my unlimited data, especially since the DNA only has a set amount of storage.
Now me downloading the Windows 7/SP1 ISO files from Microsoft every day would be "abusing" yet still legit
and it is all about Verizon wanting more money... They charging you for data usage and selling you phones without sdcards, forcing you to use their data to use your cloud storage
I think Verizon is "abusing" us!
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Sad thing is I watched a sales rep convice a friend to switch and she got an iPad thinking there's no way I can use all that data they are offering.....sadly she called me the next day saying Verizon ****ed me now......now she's right around same price monthly and is limited
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^ interesting. I'm new to Verizon and the phone so I have a limited plan but a co worker of mine long time Verizon person has the unlimited plan he says they tried with him also to change the plan he refused. That's some pretty high usuage you use hehe. I can def see how it can be pretty high I don't use my carrier internet to much but just from streaming music and uploading pictures alone gets me a lot of usage.
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Out of curiosity, what are you doing to use that much data? The highest I've gone was like 10 gigs. I don't think I could go any higher if I tried.
mkzbdroid said:
Battery pull and network refresh(really? I didn't know WiFi was part of the Verizon network but OK)
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???
mkzbdroid said:
Battery pull and network refresh(really? I didn't know WiFi was part of the Verizon network but OK)
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???
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I was wondering the same thing. I'm about to get my Droid RAZR replaced to a DNA through warranty and the rep told me I had to pay for the battery and battery cover... I was under the impression that the battery was non-removable. I even have another thread asking this very question and the answer I got was that it was not removable.
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oOMavrikOo said:
I was wondering the same thing. I'm about to get my Droid RAZR replaced to a DNA through warranty and the rep told me I had to pay for the battery and battery cover... I was under the impression that the battery was non-removable. I even have another thread asking this very question and the answer I got was that it was not removable.
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The battery on the DNA and back cover are NOT removable.
mkzbdroid said:
Well this month it was roughly 132gb as I recall, I've gotten as high as 200gb before. Bottom line is I pay for unlimited and have had this plan going on six years so lets see 12x6=72x30=2160. That's 2,160 reasons why I don't need to explain myself about how or why I use my phone.
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Would you be kind enough to explain to someone (a noob) who isn't knowledgeable enough as to understand how a user could use 200 gb a month?
Could someone use 2000gb......8000gb....or a lot more then that a month?
Please tell me how that would be possible even given exaggerated use. I am new to this, and really don't know.
Thanks,
Dan
ScreenSpace said:
Would you be kind enough to explain to someone (a noob) who isn't knowledgeable enough as to understand how a user could use 200 gb a month?
Could someone use 2000gb......8000gb....or a lot more then that a month?
Please tell me how that would be possible even given exaggerated use. I am new to this, and really don't know.
Thanks,
Dan
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It's could be possible...
1. Get root
2. Install WiFi tether
3. Enjoy the 4g speeds from laptop
4. ....torrent 24/7 to get your exaggerated use
-HTC Droid DNA-
JWhetstone02 said:
It's could be possible...
1. Get root
2. Install WiFi tether
3. Enjoy the 4g speeds from laptop
4. ....torrent 24/7 to get your exaggerated use
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Thank You!
I now see it!
Dan
Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
Nippero said:
Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
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Sprint LTE should be better if they ever arrive but I get decent speeds here in Oregon with T-Mobile and the west side has the least coverage.
TrueYears said:
Sprint LTE should be better if they ever arrive but I get decent speeds here in Oregon with T-Mobile and the west side has the least coverage.
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Yea thats what I keep telling myself. But they did finally deploy LTE in an area near me... Barely worked. And I constantly got dropped calls, calls not coming through at all, missing texts, etc. Had to force LTE to stay off so I could actually use my phone.
I was sitting in Citibank making changes to my account. The customer service rep had to call me back on my own cellphone to verify my identity, so I sat there staring at my phone with 5 bars of LTE. No call. 5 mins later, I decide to turn off LTE, and call comes through. The woman said she kept calling but getting sent straight to voice mail =.=
I dont have much hope for them.. sigh.
And I just dont like the idea that I'm paying them monthly for basically no service.
Nippero said:
Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
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If you want to be safe, try to get a cheap T-Mobile compatible phone (I imagine someone you know has to have a crappy one laying around) and sign up for their prepaid plan. I think you can go day to day ($2 a day) or at least the $30/month plan. Give it a test drive. The SIM card activation kit will cost you $10 initially so it's $40 out of pocket to give it a test run. But it'll be a much more accurate view of how T-Mobile coverage is for your particular situation.
in my area tmo is way better i average 15-18 download 6-10 upload my friend who has sprint 1-3 download less than 1 upload
Yeah, do what that poster said, buy a T-Mobile Sim, and do the 30 a month prepaid and ask a friend or someone to lend you their phone and try it out. that what I would do actually, I had a friend who was with Sprint here in Oregon and was getting awful speed. He liked them because of the whole unlimited internet but i told him that having a capped data of 5gb a month that works is better than having unlimited data that doesnt work
Glad to hear Tmo is better than Sprint for you skinsfan, gives me some more hope.
And Wayne, True, not sure why I didnt think of that.. lol I guess I could just use my old G2 for a few days and try it out. Although I cant remember if my G2 has HSPA+... hm.
EDIT: Would still like to hear more opinions though. Switching over would be expensive enough as it is, if I can just be reassured more by other members, I think thats enough to convince me to switch over.
From what I've heard so far, from my friends, its definitely not as bad as Sprint. Whether its as good as ATT/Verizon is arguable. I know those two are definitely better when out of metropolitan areas. And Verizon is best for being in buildings/underground due to their use of the 700mhz band.
Any one have any idea how tethering really works with the unlimited 4G plan?
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Glad to hear Tmo is better than Sprint for you skinsfan, gives me some more hope.
And Wayne, True, not sure why I didnt think of that.. lol I guess I could just use my old G2 for a few days and try it out. Although I cant remember if my G2 has HSPA+... hm.
EDIT: Would still like to hear more opinions though. Switching over would be expensive enough as it is, if I can just be reassured more by other members, I think thats enough to convince me to switch over.
From what I've heard so far, from my friends, its definitely not as bad as Sprint. Whether its as good as ATT/Verizon is arguable. I know those two are definitely better when out of metropolitan areas. And Verizon is best for being in buildings/underground due to their use of the 700mhz band.
Any one have any idea how tethering really works with the unlimited 4G plan?
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you have to pay extra for it unless your on a custom rom with the unlocked tethering mod but tethering is free with the 2.5 gb 4glte plan i have
nice, so it sounds like they havent changed their tethering policies since I last used them.
Had to run CM on my old HTC G2 in order to tether to my tablet/laptop and not pay for their hotspot service.
Tethering is incredibly important to me.. mainly since my office doesnt allow WiFi for unauthorized personal devices (security issues) =.=
Just to clarify, tethering is unlimited on all data plans on Tmobile except for unlimited which has a 500mb cap. However all plans are actually unlimited data, the data cap is for full speed.
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Cor-master said:
Just to clarify, tethering is unlimited on all data plans on Tmobile except for unlimited which has a 500mb cap. However all plans are actually unlimited data, the data cap is for full speed.
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Hmm.. So let me make sure I get this right.
If you have the 500MB or 2.5GB Data Plan, you have full speed tethering/data until you hit your limit, then you can continue to tether/use data at 2G speeds.
If you have the unlimited plan, you have full speed on your phone always, but tethering is limited to 500MB. Once you hit the 500, do they just block you from tethering? Or can you continue to tether at limited speeds?
Nippero said:
Hmm.. So let me make sure I get this right.
If you have the 500MB or 2.5GB Data Plan, you have full speed tethering/data until you hit your limit, then you can continue to tether/use data at 2G speeds.
If you have the unlimited plan, you have full speed on your phone always, but tethering is limited to 500MB. Once you hit the 500, do they just block you from tethering? Or can you continue to tether at limited speeds?
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I believe that's correct but I dunno what happens when you hit your cap. I'm not actually on Tmobile, I'm on at&t but me and my wife both have nexus 4s and it's actually cheaper for me to switch not and eat my etf rather than wait till the end of my contract so I've been heavily researching it. I really want unlimited data so I can use google play music without worrying about hitting my cap within a week
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Nippero said:
nice, so it sounds like they havent changed their tethering policies since I last used them.
Had to run CM on my old HTC G2 in order to tether to my tablet/laptop and not pay for their hotspot service.
Tethering is incredibly important to me.. mainly since my office doesnt allow WiFi for unauthorized personal devices (security issues) =.=
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yea but most of the sense based roms have included it on the international forum so no need to have aosp for free tethering anymore
Ohh soo tempting to just switch asap.
Thanks for the help guys.
I would miss my QWERTY keyboard on this Photon Q though. Its basically the one and only redeeming feature >.> lol
How is typing on the HTC One? I was never able to really get used to swype on my phone :|
Wonder if I can restrict myself to screen typing only with my current phone, so I can get used to it.
i have both sprint and tmobile... tmobile is much better as for as 4g speeds.. it keeps up with verizon and att lte sprint doesnt keep up for anything.. tmobile is building their lte and should launch this summer in newark nj.. i have an apt in newark and central jersey.
Nippero said:
Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
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Well, I'm in the Phoenix market, but I'll give you my experience as I switched from Sprint to T-Mobile. Being in the 5th largest market with no 4G coverage since I joined Sprint in Sep 2010 has been frustrating. This is mainly what led me to leave them. As you mentioned, unlimited data isn't worth much of anything if you can't get data at a decent speed. Kinda like being in a chugging contest with a straw! Anyway, I've had T-Mobile for about a week now and it is so nice to be able to use your phone to look information up or browse the web. I envisioned myself doing that when I joined Sprint, but never used my phone for those type of activities due to the speed limitations. Now, I have occasional LTE, but mostly 4G as I run around the Valley here. The 4G is way faster than anything I experienced at Sprint. Again, I don't know how the NY market is shaking out. One other reason for me to switch to T-Mobile, believe it or not, was price.
I'm a face to face kind of guy, so I went to a T-Mobile store. I told the T-Mobile rep that I was going to have to get out of Sprint ($80.08/month) and had a early termination fee of $160 (contract ends in Feb 2014). He said that he could apply a $100 credit to my next billing period to help on that front. Also, depending on the sales guy you get, ask for a percentage discount. I got an 18% discount on my bill (your mileage may vary, depending on how the rep wants to stretch). Anyway, tax/title/tags out the door with a monthly bill of $62.45 for unlimited everything!
I'm going to switch my wife from Verizon (17% discount from work and 2GB/month paying $97.18/month) and get her unlimited everything added to my T-Mobile acct. Our bill will be $107/month. With her Verizon and my Sprint bill every month, we were paying $177/month. Love saving me $70/month to spend elsewhere!
Good luck and don't be afraid to ask for credit for ETF and a percentage discount.
asheikh90 said:
i have both sprint and tmobile... tmobile is much better as for as 4g speeds.. it keeps up with verizon and att lte sprint doesnt keep up for anything.. tmobile is building their lte and should launch this summer in newark nj.. i have an apt in newark and central jersey.
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Thanks! My office is in Newark, so I definitely want to have good service out here lol.
I Like Soup said:
Well, I'm in the Phoenix market, but I'll give you my experience as I switched from Sprint to T-Mobile. Being in the 5th largest market with no 4G coverage since I joined Sprint in Sep 2010 has been frustrating. This is mainly what led me to leave them. As you mentioned, unlimited data isn't worth much of anything if you can't get data at a decent speed. Kinda like being in a chugging contest with a straw! Anyway, I've had T-Mobile for about a week now and it is so nice to be able to use your phone to look information up or browse the web. I envisioned myself doing that when I joined Sprint, but never used my phone for those type of activities due to the speed limitations. Now, I have occasional LTE, but mostly 4G as I run around the Valley here. The 4G is way faster than anything I experienced at Sprint. Again, I don't know how the NY market is shaking out. One other reason for me to switch to T-Mobile, believe it or not, was price.
I'm a face to face kind of guy, so I went to a T-Mobile store. I told the T-Mobile rep that I was going to have to get out of Sprint ($80.08/month) and had a early termination fee of $160 (contract ends in Feb 2014). He said that he could apply a $100 credit to my next billing period to help on that front. Also, depending on the sales guy you get, ask for a percentage discount. I got an 18% discount on my bill (your mileage may vary, depending on how the rep wants to stretch). Anyway, tax/title/tags out the door with a monthly bill of $62.45 for unlimited everything!
I'm going to switch my wife from Verizon (17% discount from work and 2GB/month paying $97.18/month) and get her unlimited everything added to my T-Mobile acct. Our bill will be $107/month. With her Verizon and my Sprint bill every month, we were paying $177/month. Love saving me $70/month to spend elsewhere!
Good luck and don't be afraid to ask for credit for ETF and a percentage discount.
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Oooh interesting... I called them up last week and asked if they could help me out in any way since my ETF would be hefty ($350.. ugh) but the guy on the phone said there was nothing he could do.
I'll try going into an actual store later today.
Question, did you go to a corporate store (big fancy ones) or one of the smaller authorized dealers?
Nippero said:
Thanks! My office is in Newark, so I definitely want to have good service out here lol.
Oooh interesting... I called them up last week and asked if they could help me out in any way since my ETF would be hefty ($350.. ugh) but the guy on the phone said there was nothing he could do.
I'll try going into an actual store later today.
Question, did you go to a corporate store (big fancy ones) or one of the smaller authorized dealers?
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Hey Nip, I went to a corporate store. Hell, if you wanna try, I'll give you the guys name/number. Maybe he can set you up outside your state and ship it to you!
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Hey Nip, I went to a corporate store. Hell, if you wanna try, I'll give you the guys name/number. Maybe he can set you up outside your state and ship it to you!
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that would be great, thanks!
Actually guys I switched from unlimited 3G/text and I think it was 900 shared min at sprint and hopped on T-Mobile with unlimited 4G LTE/text and 1000 shared min. I pay $150 a month, but only because were paying off our phones(I have the HTC One and she has the GS4). I haven't regretted it one bit. Also since LA got lit up with LTE its been awesome.
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From The Verge
http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/25/5937217/what-you-need-to-know-about-verizon-lte-throttling
For those of us that have unlimited, in Oct. Verizon will start throttling the top 5% of users IF THE TOWER YOU ARE CONNECTED TO SEES HEAVY USAGE.
4 conditions have to be met.
1. You still have an unlimited data plan.
2. You are on a month to month basis
3. You are a top 5% user (right now anyone above 5.7GB/month is in that category).
4. The tower you are connected to is being heavily used (total of all users).
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saw that the other day, hopefully wont apply to me, as I live in a small town.
Sucks though
you are promised unlimited data, but not a set speed. I am on the unlimited plan and do use a lot of data but I'm fine with this. I prefer to keep unlimited data in fear of living in fear of overages and I wanna use my phone when I wanna use my phone.
I'm glad I live in a very small town.
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From The Verge
4. The tower you are connected to is being heavily used (total of all users).
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Yeah..."heavily" is vague enough that I'm sure I'll get throttled
Actually Verizon is the last of the big 4 to do this. It was just a matter of time...
I was not excited to hear this since I was one of the unlucky "top 5%" that was throttled on 3G as they were starting to roll out 4G and try to get heavier users to buy new phones (I was holding out for a DX at the time). I can only hope they don't cripple the connection the way they did then. When on a "congested" tower I would only get between 1 - 10kb/sec down. I couldn't do a successful speed test most of the time without it just timing out and it would cripple even the most basic functions of my "smartphone" like email.
It's been said a bunch already but, this is how they are trying to get people to get off unlimited data and pay more for less. Luckily these days I connect to WiFi at work so during the day it won't be so bad but my train commute will blow if they reduce the speeds that much.
Also, there is a mistype in the first post, it is 4.7GB of data a month, not 5.7.
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http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/information/data_disclosure.html
So when I've been doing 30-40gb a month sometimes, I'll be screwed... yay
They have already been throttling me. I can not even stream a youtube video without constant buffering. Been this way for awhile especially during peak hours.
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Actually Verizon is the last of the big 4 to do this. It was just a matter of time...
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Sprint claims they don't throttle. Unlimited means unlimited access according to them. Between how much vzw has locked down their phones, ending unlimited, and now this; I'm done with them.
Edit: I guess Sprint is throttling their top 5% too. At least they still offer unlimited plans I suppose
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Sprint claims they don't throttle. Unlimited means unlimited access according to them. Between how much vzw has locked down their phones, ending unlimited, and now this; I'm done with them.
Edit: I guess Sprint is throttling their top 5% too. At least they still offer unlimited plans I suppose
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Unlimited on there network! I work alot in North Dakota and Northern Alaska. Verizon has great service in those spots that's why in with them now, I had sprint and changed my prl to Verizon so I could roam on there towers and was terminated from Sprint for excessive roaming (3-5gb per month for 4 continuous months).
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Unlimited on there network! I work alot in North Dakota and Northern Alaska. Verizon has great service in those spots that's why in with them now, I had sprint and changed my prl to Verizon so I could roam on there towers and was terminated from Sprint for excessive roaming (3-5gb per month for 4 continuous months).
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I'm an ex Sprint guy and they've been known to lay the smack down on users for excessive data usage??!!?? Excessive data usage for unlimited data.... ?
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I'm pretty sure the criteria they claim has to be met is bogus. There's 1 criteria for throttling, and that's if you have this unlimited plan. I am, of course, speaking from a sampling size of exactly 1 other person besides myself. This other person has been throttled yet doesn't eat up more than a gig or 2 per month.
I've been throttled, but I expected it. You tend to draw attention when you use more than 80 gigs a month, on a light month.
Saw an article today saying the FCC is not happy about this. What sucks is if the FCC says they can't throttle just because of the plan people have, Verizon will probably just kill the plan altogether somehow.
Edit: There are a few different ones out there. Heres one: http://9to5mac.com/2014/07/30/fcc-throttles-verizon-wireless-over-plans-to-throttle-customers/
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Saw an article today saying the FCC is not happy about this. What sucks is if the FCC says they can't throttle just because of the plan people have, Verizon will probably just kill the plan altogether somehow.
Edit: There are a few different ones out there. Heres one: http://9to5mac.com/2014/07/30/fcc-throttles-verizon-wireless-over-plans-to-throttle-customers/
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Doubtful, 20% of Verizon customers still have unlimited data. That move would piss off a lot of customers
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I guess I am really really screwed. Last month I used 118gig. The FCC says that by doing this Verizon is breaking the agreement they had with them to gain access to the LTE spectrum so who knows what will happen. I know I am tired of every update Verizon OTA's sends out screwing up my phone(s)...maybe it's time for a provider switch.
Curious myself. I renewed my unlimited contract back in November when the Note 3 came out during the so call "glitch", so I have my unlimited under contract for 2 more years.
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Curious myself. I renewed my unlimited contract back in November when the Note 3 came out during the so call "glitch", so I have my unlimited under contract for 2 more years.
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You're on a contract, so not affected by their new policy.
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Oh the suprises you unlimited data users are in for at years end.