http://andgeeks.com/google-android/service-providers/verizons-tiered-data-plan-makes-waves-883214/
This sucks!
I've rooted and circumvented Sprints Hotspots service for a year now.
Not sure if that's the way to go for me anymore.
This Verizon news really makes me appreciate Sprint's unlimited data scheme now.
But..they are cracking down on data abusers now...tracking big users and even sites visited indicating hacked tethering use and roaming totals...dropping people with excessive data use.
Concerned they'll end up saying screw it and implement data caps.
I value unlimited Sprint plans enough that, out of principle I'm considering just forking over the monthly $...perhaps getting on a favored list lol!
u wiggin on us dood?
rockky said:
http://andgeeks.com/google-android/service-providers/verizons-tiered-data-plan-makes-waves-883214/
This sucks!
I've rooted and circumvented Sprints Hotspots service for a year now.
Not sure if that's the way to go for me anymore.
This Verizon news really makes me appreciate Sprint's unlimited data scheme now.
But..they are cracking down on data abusers now...tracking big users and even sites visited indicating hacked tethering use and roaming totals...dropping people with excessive data use.
Concerned they'll end up saying screw it and implement data caps.
I value unlimited Sprint plans enough that, out of principle I'm considering just forking over the monthly $...perhaps getting on a favored list lol!
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Doesn't matter, those who have unlimited will probably be grandfathered into unlimited data.
rockky said:
http://andgeeks.com/google-android/service-providers/verizons-tiered-data-plan-makes-waves-883214/
This sucks!
I've rooted and circumvented Sprints Hotspots service for a year now.
Not sure if that's the way to go for me anymore.
This Verizon news really makes me appreciate Sprint's unlimited data scheme now.
But..they are cracking down on data abusers now...tracking big users and even sites visited indicating hacked tethering use and roaming totals...dropping people with excessive data use.
Concerned they'll end up saying screw it and implement data caps.
I value unlimited Sprint plans enough that, out of principle I'm considering just forking over the monthly $...perhaps getting on a favored list lol!
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no kidding. I checked and will clear 20 gigs this month...lol
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Doesn't matter, those who have unlimited will probably be grandfathered into unlimited data.
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More importantly, they're still (as of radio ad yesterday) using unlimited data as a selling point for their phones.
NewZJ said:
u wiggin on us dood?
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Lol...maybe! But I have a couple buds who moved to ATT, and I tried a phone out there myself....and that 2G cap is ridiculous! Seriously.
I guess the issue is whether you use the tethering abusively or not... I use it to provide wifi to my tablet on the road (it is used in lieu of the phone) and in the car when my kids are in the back with their notebook (once in a while). Overall my usage is consistent with a my phone usage as ...
As far as limiting it the bandwidth, they already are doing it by reducing your connection speed. Less Speed = less debit = less sharing!
So far...
Its going to happen eventually regardless.
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More importantly, they're still (as of radio ad yesterday) using unlimited data as a selling point for their phones.
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The fact that they don't limit or even slow you down when you reach 5 gigs of services is why I switched back to sprint.
You sure about that. I've heard varying takes on that.
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I guess the issue is whether you use the tethering abusively or not... I use it to provide wifi to my tablet on the road (it is used in lieu of the phone) and in the car when my kids are in the back with their notebook (once in a while). Overall my usage is consistent with a my phone usage as ...
As far as limiting it the bandwidth, they already are doing it by reducing your connection speed. Less Speed = less debit = less sharing!
So far...
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You sure about that. I've heard varying takes on that.
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It's going to happen cause people are greedy and are gonna continue to do it whether we like it or not. Sprint will eventually make us pay for the tiered data plans, its going to happen. I hate thinking bad ****, but this is one of those things that I really think is inevitable.
The few screwing it up for the rest of us...go figure.
heathmcabee said:
It's going to happen cause people are greedy and are gonna continue to do it whether we like it or not. Sprint will eventually make us pay for the tiered data plans, its going to happen. I hate thinking bad ****, but this is one of those things that I really think is inevitable.
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I won't say it'll never happen.. But, the unlimited data is one of the few perks that brings in/keeps customers for Sprint. I haven't been treated badly by Sprint, but I've got no reason to remain loyal for loyalty's sake.
I doubt they will. Over time most data will become wireless anyway. Once all is on 4G or LTE, it won't matter the bandwidth as much. Sprint already charges more for premium data anyway. Not to mention their voice coverage sucks and the unlimited plan is what helps them keep customers. I would switch to Verizon as soon as Sprint says the unlimited plan is changing.
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I Don't know alot about it but is there really a differance between using Pandora,Netflix,dishnetwork,ect..... on my tethered gtablet compared to directly on my phone. Not sure......But it does enables me and my kids to enjoy this entertanment in the car without totaly tieing up my phone....Thats just my opion
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I doubt they will. Over time most data will become wireless anyway. Once all is on 4G or LTE, it won't matter the bandwidth as much. Sprint already charges more for premium data anyway. Not to mention their voice coverage sucks and the unlimited plan is what helps them keep customers. I would switch to Verizon as soon as Sprint says the unlimited plan is changing.
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100% agree on all fronts.
Their CS is fantastic, bar none...but without truly unlimited data I no longer give a **** about that. If I have to pick between the big 3.....AT&T would have the fastest 3G and most pervasive 4G...Verizon would have the best "all around" pricing and fastest 4G and Sprint would have....what? The worst coverage AND crappy plans but pleasant customer service? No thanks. I'll take verizon.
...I hate AT&T with a passion. I have them for home internet service. I have never in my life been treated so poorly by a service I pay for....paying a bill over the phone or online is a gigantic pain in the ass...and I have never ever had a service shut off for paying a service IN FULL, EARLY until I had the modern-day incarnation of AT&T....and I am far from alone on that.
This is Sprint's ace in the hole...well, that and Google recently buddying up with them....but...lacking unlimited data they have no compelling reason to stick around.
Flash473 said:
I Don't know alot about it but is there really a differance between using Pandora,Netflix,dishnetwork,ect..... on my tethered gtablet compared to directly on my phone. Not sure......But it does enables me and my kids to enjoy this entertanment in the car without totaly tieing up my phone....Thats just my opion
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As far as data usage, not really. However, it increases the potential for additional/more data usage as you might not of loaded it on your phone if that was the only option.
Personally, any reasonable usage is fine. Big difference between checking email on a tethered laptop.. and torrenting.
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I guess the issue is whether you use the tethering abusively or not... I use it to provide wifi to my tablet on the road (it is used in lieu of the phone) and in the car when my kids are in the back with their notebook (once in a while). Overall my usage is consistent with a my phone usage as ...
As far as limiting it the bandwidth, they already are doing it by reducing your connection speed. Less Speed = less debit = less sharing!
So far...
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This pretty much describes my tethering usage, except the kids part.
I like the leaked plans from AT&T for their LTE pricing. This is based off of what Lulsec stole today, but apparently AT&T is going to go with speed tiers when their LTE is released instead of bandwidth caps, you just pay for how fast you want your internet. To me that makes more sense.
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As far as data usage, not really. However, it increases the potential for additional/more data usage as you might not of loaded it on your phone if that was the only option.
Personally, any reasonable usage is fine. Big difference between checking email on a tethered laptop.. and torrenting.
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Yeah, umm, unless that torrent download is an absolute emergency (and I actually have been in that situation before...on the road at a trade show....needed a kinda huge file I had hosted at home....) you are just torrenting tethered off your phone to show off...even 4G sucks relative to even a basic cable-modem connection.....
I think the people who use 10+gb a month tethering illegally should take a step back and think about what they're doing. Just pay the price every month to tether the right way. Because once you guys really piss Sprint off, that 20gb you use every month is going to cost a fortune thanks to the tiered data policy they will enact. Then you'll be paying MORE than you would have if you had paid for the tethering.
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Did a couple google searches and didn't find the answer to my question. Is the 4g plan really unlimited or is there a cap at 5gb as usual? Thanks.
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unlimited for now...they could change it eventually
Well if it's anything like the 3g plan I had on my eris before it's truely unlimited. A lot of rumors where out there that said they would cap you or turn off service after 5gigs and it's total bs to scare you. I use 10+ gigs month after month and I was never capped, threatened or throttled. Granted I was stock using pda.net and it was totally doable.
So go balls to the wall!
it is truely unlimited but if you go crazy they may throttle you
Awesome, good to hear. Thanks for the responses.
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I'm not 100% sure if this is accurate or not..but I believe being on an old Alltel plan still, mainline being a business line, I believe, and then my added line...I TRULY am unlimited on 3g and 4g (Bought a THunderbolt to grandfather in) and not Verizon's "Reserve the right to throttle after 5 gigs unlimited" since I don't believe that was mentioned in Alltel contracts.
Also...it's possible I may have unlimitted tethering as well. Tethering isn't mentioned anywhere in the contract...but that's the lookhole. IF you all remember just 4-5 years back, anybody could tether a phone to their computer as a modem for internet without having a plan. It just wasn't a big deal since the data explosion hadn't taken off yet.
I have yet to be able to confirm this and can find very little information regarding it. Anyone in a similar situation or have any knowledge on the issue?
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Well if it's anything like the 3g plan I had on my eris before it's truely unlimited. A lot of rumors where out there that said they would cap you or turn off service after 5gigs and it's total bs to scare you. I use 10+ gigs month after month and I was never capped, threatened or throttled. Granted I was stock using pda.net and it was totally doable.
So go balls to the wall!
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Does your phone never leave your hand or do you just have no life to use that much data??
I was curious too, didnt want to see a $300 bill. I've used 14 gigs so far this month, phone just doest leave my hand always on forums watch YouTube downloading apps music and videos. Am a data whore. Got nothing better to do at work tho....besides working but eff that.
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taintphuck said:
I'm not 100% sure if this is accurate or not..but I believe being on an old Alltel plan still, mainline being a business line, I believe, and then my added line...I TRULY am unlimited on 3g and 4g (Bought a THunderbolt to grandfather in) and not Verizon's "Reserve the right to throttle after 5 gigs unlimited" since I don't believe that was mentioned in Alltel contracts.
Also...it's possible I may have unlimitted tethering as well. Tethering isn't mentioned anywhere in the contract...but that's the lookhole. IF you all remember just 4-5 years back, anybody could tether a phone to their computer as a modem for internet without having a plan. It just wasn't a big deal since the data explosion hadn't taken off yet.
I have yet to be able to confirm this and can find very little information regarding it. Anyone in a similar situation or have any knowledge on the issue?
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that may not be right because you had to change your data plan so it had 4g
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Does your phone never leave your hand or do you just have no life to use that much data??
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I had no home internet connection for about 4 months so I really didn't have any other choice. And it is really easy to hit that much data and I would hit more if 3g didn't suck so bad for videos streaming and the such. But for online gaming it wasn't to bad if you can stand 200 pings.
I have a question for you guys sorry to thread jack. But I decided i'm switching to Verizon for the HTC Thunderbolt. If I wanted the unlimited data for 29.99 do I have to buy it this month or would I be okay switching over to Verizon next month?
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I have a question for you guys sorry to thread jack. But I decided i'm switching to Verizon for the HTC Thunderbolt. If I wanted the unlimited data for 29.99 do I have to buy it this month or would I be okay switching over to Verizon next month?
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You are safe for getting it next month.
So, Dan Hesse, CEO of Sprint was asked some pretty upfront questions about Data caps and it's competitors who all seem to be using tiered data plans now.
his full answer here at Engadget. http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/19/dan-hesse-sprints-not-following-virgins-tiered-data-movement/
This gist: As of right now, the fact that they are testing Data Caps on Virgin (uses Sprint towers) is in no way a sign that it will come to Sprint.
He does go on to state that going to a tiered system may be needed at some point in the future. (couple years out? said by Engadget.)
What are your thoughts? I love unlimited data. I doubt I use over 2GB right now, but with Netflix budding and Google Music about to open up to the masses, and Spotify reaching the states. who the hell knows anymore.
It doesnt really make a difference to me,im on wifi 90% of the time.
Could care less my signal sucks so bad I use wifi 99% of the time . Don't play around at work or driving and already got gps
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If they do go to tiered data I'm going to Verizon....
They have better signal in my area and with a price increase (if they do data packages) ill be paying close to 200 a month for 2 unlimited lines so why not just go to a "better/stable" service provider if I will be paying the same ammount...
Verizon is expensive and sucks I know but i am not betting on anyone else to put a 4g/LTE in my town other than them :/
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It seems like a foregone conclusion.
The pipe into my home should never have an artificial limit put on how much I download or upload. I should pay for throughput. The cap being imposed by how much I could theoretically download in a month at my selected rate maxed out 24/7. It is artificial scarcity. If I'm already subject to the ebb and flow of the network why the hell should I also have a cap imposed? Sure, that might smooth it out a little bit for a little while...but they will continue to add more subscribers than their infrastructure can support...and that's my fault? Our tax dollars went to help them build out that network that they are now trying to rape us for, they DO in fact owe us a little something. Stop overselling your networks and imposing artificial caps on a resource that isn't subject to scarcity, especially when my speeds are at the whim of the condition of the network at any given moment.
Wireless, however, is a slightly different beast. Without a gigantic technological leap we have a ceiling that dictates how many people may be connected in any given area at any given speed at an given moment. I do think caps on wireless are bound to happen...however our requirements will also increase every year. It will be like inflation, you'll always get just a little less data than you'll want but that will increase every year and be, for the most part, manageable. So long as the dollar-to-data ratio stays relative in check I'm fine with that. Right now a 5gb limit is a tad tight for $80 a month....so I'm glad it is "unlimited"...but next year I'd better be getting 10gb a month for that same $80 (probably $90 inflation adjusted the way the dollar is headed, hopefully no more).
2gb cap? Sure, but my entire plan (unlimited minutes and all) had better cost me $49...
...this ATTmobile merger is bad bad baaaaad news guys. The less competition there is the worse this will get. Root for Sprint, support Sprint and pray to god that Verizon doesn't acquire Sprint....Pray to Google that Google does...
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If they do go to tiered data I'm going to Verizon....
They have better signal in my area and with a price increase (if they do data packages) ill be paying close to 200 a month for 2 unlimited lines so why not just go to a "better/stable" service provider if I will be paying the same ammount...
Verizon is expensive and sucks I know but i am not betting on anyone else to put a 4g/LTE in my town other than them :/
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This. Unfortunately.
I've been with Sprint for such a long time, it's nice to see them stepping up their game these last couple of years. Unfortunately, if they go to a tiered data plan, it would cost me the same amount to go with Verizon, who has better coverage here AND 4G here as well. Sprint does not have 4G here.
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It seems like a foregone conclusion.
The pipe into my home should never have an artificial limit put on how much I download or upload. I should pay for throughput. The cap being imposed by how much I could theoretically download in a month at my selected rate maxed out 24/7. It is artificial scarcity. If I'm already subject to the ebb and flow of the network why the hell should I also have a cap imposed? Sure, that might smooth it out a little bit for a little while...but they will continue to add more subscribers than their infrastructure can support...and that's my fault? Our tax dollars went to help them build out that network that they are now trying to rape us for, they DO in fact owe us a little something. Stop overselling your networks and imposing artificial caps on a resource that isn't subject to scarcity, especially when my speeds are at the whim of the condition of the network at any given moment.
Wireless, however, is a slightly different beast. Without a gigantic technological leap we have a ceiling that dictates how many people may be connected in any given area at any given speed at an given moment. I do think caps on wireless are bound to happen...however our requirements will also increase every year. It will be like inflation, you'll always get just a little less data than you'll want but that will increase every year and be, for the most part, manageable. So long as the dollar-to-data ratio stays relative in check I'm fine with that. Right now a 5gb limit is a tad tight for $80 a month....so I'm glad it is "unlimited"...but next year I'd better be getting 10gb a month for that same $80 (probably $90 inflation adjusted the way the dollar is headed, hopefully no more).
2gb cap? Sure, but my entire plan (unlimited minutes and all) had better cost me $49...
...this ATTmobile merger is bad bad baaaaad news guys. The less competition there is the worse this will get. Root for Sprint, support Sprint and pray to god that Verizon doesn't acquire Sprint....Pray to Google that Google does...
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and dude, Sprint could revolutionize right now. they could introduce a reversed tier system.
everyone paying what they pay right now stays unlimited. if you want a 2gb cap? cheaper data plans! don't change our prices, but add new plans with caps if you want to jump into the whole "NO SOUP FOR YOU!" trend.
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This. Unfortunately.
I've been with Sprint for such a long time, it's nice to see them stepping up their game these last couple of years. Unfortunately, if they go to a tiered data plan, it would cost me the same amount to go with Verizon, who has better coverage here AND 4G here as well. Sprint does not have 4G here.
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If Sprint exists as is but has to go to tiered plans I would not expect them to cost nearly as much as Verizon's or EVERYONE would jump ship. Sprint knows this. I wouldn't worry about it. As long as Sprint is the little guy they will offer something to positively differentiate themselves from the pack. ATT has the best speed, Verizon has the best coverage, Sprint has the best price. Unless Sprint can capture either (or both) of those two factors the only option they have is price as 'features' don't exist to differentiate in the post-smartphone world.
...and if Sprint does capture either or both of those elements then prices can and would go up as people flock to Sprint...then they aren't the underdog anymore, then you go to who is....or move to who has what you want the most.
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This. Unfortunately.
I've been with Sprint for such a long time, it's nice to see them stepping up their game these last couple of years. Unfortunately, if they go to a tiered data plan, it would cost me the same amount to go with Verizon, who has better coverage here AND 4G here as well. Sprint does not have 4G here.
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Honestly I would go back to tmobile or ATT if they had 4G here or to Verizon for that matter...
People complained about the phone selection sucks at Verizon and they didn't have dual core phones right away but **** look at sprint it took them almost 3 months to get a dual core phone after ATT and tmobile got theirs
I hate the thought of buying anything named "droid" but hey its my money I'm spending in the end... And sprint sucks balls in my town of 78k people..... And there isn't even a service center if i did have problems with my phone within 100 miles of me
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ballr4lyf said:
This. Unfortunately.
I've been with Sprint for such a long time, it's nice to see them stepping up their game these last couple of years. Unfortunately, if they go to a tiered data plan, it would cost me the same amount to go with Verizon, who has better coverage here AND 4G here as well. Sprint does not have 4G here.
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I'm fortunate. I have good 4G service nearly everywhere in my city/state. So, this is going to effect me if they push to a tiered system
felacio said:
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and dude, Sprint could revolutionize right now. they could introduce a reversed tier system.
everyone paying what they pay right now stays unlimited. if you want a 2gb cap? cheaper data plans! don't change our prices, but add new plans with caps if you want to jump into the whole "NO SOUP FOR YOU!" trend.
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That and I think a strategic partnership with Google...HYPER INVEST IN 3G and 4G, DITCH THE 2G, VOIP+Gvoice for EVERYTHING. Use those lower 2G frequencies for mind-shattering 4G penetration.
Now they are merely a wireless data/communications provider. The 2G setup is quickly becoming superfluous, as did AMPS towards the end of the transition with dual-mode phones in the early 00's.
Hopefully Sprint leads this trend...it will happen. Just watch...
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That and I think a strategic partnership with Google...HYPER INVEST IN 3G and 4G, DITCH THE 2G, VOIP+Gvoice for EVERYTHING. Use those lower 2G frequencies for mind-shattering 4G penetration.
Now they are merely a wireless data/communications provider. The 2G setup is quickly becoming superfluous, as did AMPS towards the end of the transition with dual-mode phones in the early 00's.
Hopefully Sprint leads this trend...it will happen. Just watch...
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Oh may god. I remember actually thinking about getting a "surferboard" but my old Nokia phone because I got no signal where I lived. a 100 dollar attachment that allowed the phone to get analog signal, drained battery, and cost ridiculous roaming fees
I have broken 2 gigs twice in the year I've been on Sprint.
Amazon had a podcast app for free a couple of weeks ago. Then I started listening to The Regular Guys out of Atlanta. Podcasts will chew thru the data. A couple hundred megs a day listening to 3 hours of podcasts. Last billing cycle I broke 2 gigs. And the show is a riot. I litterally LOL in my cube.
I actually just saw the Tmobile unlimited family plan commercial. Said unlimited a few times. But in small text at the bottom of the screen is says 200mbs of Full Speed Data.
So, they start throttling you after 200mbs? Wow... I know for a fact I go. Over 200 a month.
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I actually just saw the Tmobile unlimited family plan commercial. Said unlimited a few times. But in small text at the bottom of the screen is says 200mbs of Full Speed Data.
So, they start throttling you after 200mbs? Wow... I know for a fact I go. Over 200 a month.
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No its 5GB
They have a cheap 60 dollar (single) plan that is capped at 2gb
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Ya they cap at something low and charge more that would suck. No 4G here either think a lot of folks would roll to Verizon which I agree on the price they suck cause of the price be worth it in the long haul they have a 5gig cap
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Ya they cap at something low and charge more that would suck. No 4G here either think a lot of folks would roll to Verizon which I agree on the price they suck cause of the price be worth it in the long haul they have a 5gig cap
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That 5g cap is going to cost you now a days
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No its 5GB
They have a cheap 60 dollar (single) plan that is capped at 2gb
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Dude. I just saw the commercial. It said 200mb at full data speeds. =p
You calling me a liar!?
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Dude. I just saw the commercial. It said 200mb at full data speeds. =p
You calling me a liar!?
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Lmfao I dunno but I just came over from tmobile to sprint and I had 5GB on each phone each month... They ended up letting me out of the contract early with no ETF because I was throttled for 3 month straight. And i got to sell the phones I had for profit
Well more than what I paid for them....
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why are you guys tripping out. You will be locked in regardless. Verizon still is letting their unlimited 3g customers keep unlimited 4g if they get a 4g plan, and as long as they stay with verizon they keep unlimited. ATT allowed all people to renew their contract and keep unlimited even after their contract was over.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/21/sprint-to-nix-unlimited-from-mobile-broadband-and-hotspot-plan/
So, anyone know a good way to get out of a contract. Apparently you can't be grandfathered in and i want out.
I don't use tethering or Wimax so I'm good. Smartphone data is unlimited still.
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This is for people that pay for sprint hotspot only. Its still unlimitied phone usage and rooted tether.
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This is good about time they stopped the bandwidth hogs on hotspots slowing down my bandwidth on my phone
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As much as this doesn't affect most of us, all it's going to do is make people cancel their hotspot and gravitate towards the free tethering you can get when you root. But, in all reality, most people who pay for and use the hotspot rarely go over 5 gigs a month anyways.
yea, i guess I should not have added the hotspot, just used rooted wireless tethering. Guess sprint showed me not to try and do things there way.
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yea, i guess I should not have added the hotspot, just used rooted wireless tethering. Guess sprint showed me not to try and do things there way.
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What are you doing that would use over 5GB of data while tethering?
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What are you doing that would use over 5GB of data while tethering?
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That's a lot of porn, man.... Filthy, filthy porn....
You know this only puts them one step closer to making smartphone plans like this . Im well aware that they have said they will keep the unlimited data plan . But I have a feeling that will eventually fall under the "Terms and Conditions are subject to change" umbrella when it does happen LOL
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You know this only puts them one step closer to making smartphone plans like this . Im well aware that they have said they will keep the unlimited data plan . But I have a feeling that will eventually fall under the "Terms and Conditions are subject to change" umbrella when it does happen LOL
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LOL, I will happily pay the ETF as I jump off the Sprint bandwagon (if/when) that ever happens.
I think I enjoy Sprint's best 4G speeds in the nation but the day they loose unlimited on the phone, I'm off.
Noiro said:
LOL, I will happily pay the ETF as I jump off the Sprint bandwagon (if/when) that ever happens.
I think I enjoy Sprint's best 4G speeds in the nation but the day they loose unlimited on the phone, I'm off.
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LOL, its not like you can go anywhere else and get truly unlimited data. So oh well.
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LOL, its not like you can go anywhere else and get truly unlimited data. So oh well.
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But nobody else is trying to pull the rug out from under us like sprint. Everyone else is being upfront.
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But nobody else is trying to pull the rug out from under us like sprint. Everyone else is being upfront.
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Well if you are paying attention to things, like most people have it seems to be doing this....
1. Network adds Iphone
2. Cuts unlimited Data
3. Puts in more dirty policys
4. Watches people leave their contracts
Im guessing sprint is next to start with the madness. But realistically, all of them are doing it so there's no where else to go imo.
swaze said:
Well if you are paying attention to things, like most people have it seems to be doing this....
1. Network adds Iphone
2. Cuts unlimited Data
3. Puts in more dirty policys
4. Watches people leave their contracts
Im guessing sprint is next to start with the madness. But realistically, all of them are doing it so there's no where else to go imo.
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The Mobile Hotspot/ Air Card limit was a bad move, I can understand the phone tethering limit to 5GB.
This move gives Verizon the all clear on flagging their Mobile Hotspots as the better & cheaper alternative, why by a limited 4G WiMax hotspot when you can buy a faster & $10 cheaper monthly ($50 for 5GB) LTE hotspot from Verizon?
It would be better if they grandfathered current users before the limit because now the ETF free door has been swung open, loosing more contract subscribers valued at an est. $1700 x number of mobile hotspot users, over a 2 year contract.
SMH
But no one thought to bring that possible backlash up at an investor meeting. Where I assume this deal went down.
unlimited data is next ..
Sprint no longer has the only best phones and their 4g sucks big time. If they drop unlimited on phones no one has a justifiable reason to stay with them.
Just in time to grab the nexus on VZW I guess. :-\
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Sprint no longer has the only best phones and their 4g sucks big time. If they drop unlimited on phones no one has a justifiable reason to stay with them.
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Except their extremely cheap prices...
Remember, that's the reason most people go with sprint. I would already be with Verizon if that wasn't the case.
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Sprint no longer has the only best phones and their 4g sucks big time. If they drop unlimited on phones no one has a justifiable reason to stay with them.
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except for the little fact that its cheaper for me and my wife than any other carrier around, and there are no signal issues where I live. Other than that, you're absolutely correct.
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Except their extremely cheap prices...
Remember, that's the reason most people go with sprint. I would already be with Verizon if that wasn't the case.
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I totally agree.
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hello..
i hope you guys dont bash me to bad,
i have been spolied with my evo 4g free hotspot, and would like to upgrade to the new evo lte 4g, but need to know, do you think that will be a easy thing to have? ( once its rooted )
i dont know becase of the lte side of things if there going (sprint) be able to make sure that wont be a option..
I'm not sure of the details, but if they have it on the 4G and the 3D then it will probably be the same on the LTE.
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Yes, yes and yes
Hotspot was free?
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Hotspot was free?
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Yeah. Once rooted, it was easy to install a root-only tethering solution, which was (is) free.
I expect it will be the same with the E4L.
I read on the Att One X forum they used wifi tether beta 14, selected generic ICS, then slected the htc routing fix and it works fine
A third party app should work. That said....don't abuse your unlimited data if you aren't paying for the tethering. The data hogs will be the end of unlimited data and/or throttled data on Sprint. While I do tether from time to time, I don't use it as my home Internet for my computer. Just be mindful of usage so we continue to enjoy our unlimited data.
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A third party app should work. That said....don't abuse your unlimited data if you aren't paying for the tethering. The data hogs will be the end of unlimited data and/or throttled data on Sprint. While I do tether from time to time, I don't use it as my home Internet for my computer. Just be mindful of usage so we continue to enjoy our unlimited data.
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The phone companies have trained you well. We paid for unlimited data, we should be able to use it anyway we want. There is no difference if you consume 2GB watching Netflix on your phone or 2GB on your laptop using the rooted hotspot. Should I watch what I eat the next time I go to a buffet? Should I go on less rides at the amusement parks? Should I pee less in the public pool? Helz no (except for the peeing thing). If they raise prices, shame on them, not shame on us!
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The phone companies have trained you well. We paid for unlimited data, we should be able to use it anyway we want. There is no difference if you consume 2GB watching Netflix on your phone or 2GB on your laptop using the rooted hotspot. Should I watch what I eat the next time I go to a buffet? Should I go on less rides at the amusement parks? Should I pee less in the public pool? Helz no (except for the peeing thing). If they raise prices, shame on them, not shame on us!
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And when Sprint gets rid of unlimited data because they can't afford people abusing rooted hotspot, I'm sure you'll find great comfort telling them they should be ashamed. After all, you've got (really bad) analogies!
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The phone companies have trained you well. We paid for unlimited data, we should be able to use it anyway we want. There is no difference if you consume 2GB watching Netflix on your phone or 2GB on your laptop using the rooted hotspot. Should I watch what I eat the next time I go to a buffet? Should I go on less rides at the amusement parks? Should I pee less in the public pool? Helz no (except for the peeing thing). If they raise prices, shame on them, not shame on us!
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And your parents trained you to be an asshole well. By tethering, you are breaking your agreement with Sprint. They have the right to terminate you. They also have the right to end your contract if you use excessive data. Read your contract. As for your analogies, try going to an "all you can eat" buffet and sitting there all day feasting. It won't happen.
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And your parents trained you to be an asshole well. By tethering, you are breaking your agreement with Sprint. They have the right to terminate you. They also have the right to end your contract if you use excessive data. Read your contract. As for your analogies, try going to an "all you can eat" buffet and sitting there all day feasting. It won't happen.
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I don't think a buffet really has a leg to stand on in that reference. As long as you don't stop eating for 5 hours and then decide its dinner time. I'd like to try that one day. Some of the asian buffets have some nit picky rules and they do enforce them. I'm getting hungry talking about this time for some general taos chicken and pork fried rice.
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I don't think a buffet really has a leg to stand on in that reference. As long as you don't stop eating for 5 hours and then decide its dinner time. I'd like to try that one day. Some of the asian buffets have some nit picky rules and they do enforce them. I'm getting hungry talking about this time for some general taos chicken and pork fried rice.
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Good point. Now I'm hungry! I know where I'm going for lunch. Heh
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well this isn't going to be good for some of us....
http://arstechnica.com/information-...mited-data-customers-who-use-over-100gbmonth/
I only avg 20 GB a month or less. I pay $20 a month for udp
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well this isn't going to be good for some of us....
http://arstechnica.com/information-...mited-data-customers-who-use-over-100gbmonth/
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I don't really feel sorry for those who use 100+ GB/month. Those are the users that prompted the removal of the unlimited plans to start with. You can scream "unlimited is unlimited" if you want but its Verizon's sandbox and they make the rules.
l7777 said:
I don't really feel sorry for those who use 100+ GB/month. Those are the users that prompted the removal of the unlimited plans to start with. You can scream "unlimited is unlimited" if you want but its Verizon's sandbox and they make the rules.
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Agreed...there comes a point (about 100 GB a month) where it becomes an "unjust enrichment" for the end user....and this is why we cannot have nice things lol
I'm surprised Verizon didn't go the route of...well the unlimited data plan started in the days of 2G/3G only...so that's the only unlimited data you get...when you are on 2G/3G.
Maybe I shouldn't give them any ideas... :/
agreed. I live out in the boonies, I am on 1x and sometimes 3g. my internet is only dsl at 2.5Mbps (3g speeds) ... so whenever I hit 4g on my phone, I do everything with it. so i sometimes rack up 70gb+ a month. especially when im at work ..teamviewer, netflix, streaming cameras setup at various locations, music is always going, showbox, kodi (tends to use a lot more data than other streaming apps)... the data rack up quick.
Has anyone actually reported receiving a letter yet ?
I use it as primary internet. Been paying for it for so long. Screw paying $60+ a month for cable that is the same speed but doesn't offer the same capabilities that cellular data does. I rack up over 100gb a month but it's a business account so i doubt they will cut me off.
The fcc does nothing about the internet monopoly in my area because it's not considered a monopoly because wireless internet is considered an option. When verizon charges what they do for internet it clearly isn't an option. We all know verizon can afford to give you more GB's at a lower price.
Most of the infrastructure is already in place and they are paying purely for maintenance at this point. And when they are talking about faster speeds with xlte and lte-a they are expecting you to use more data but have no plans on reducing the cost per gb. Faster speeds means a larger resource pool to tap into. The excuse that heavy udp users are decreasing the speeds for others is basically a thing of the past at this point.
Honestly it's all bs marketing and political manipulation. Tell me why countries in the EU can offer unlimited lte data for 35 euoros a month, which people use as their primary internet source, if this isn't the case?
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Agreed...there comes a point (about 100 GB a month) where it becomes an "unjust enrichment" for the end user....and this is why we cannot have nice things lol
I'm surprised Verizon didn't go the route of...well the unlimited data plan started in the days of 2G/3G only...so that's the only unlimited data you get...when you are on 2G/3G.
Maybe I shouldn't give them any ideas... :/
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And why R u saying at 100 gigs a month? Why this amount? Unjust? U r an idiot in perspective. Unjust =Hilary Clinton's Fuk'n National security (knowingly) and walking free. Unjust= people like me or in my "group" pay more in taxes than the "wealthy." UNJUST=VERIZON lying about the effects people such as myself have on "their" network I pay for by using what U stated over "100 gigs" monthly. OPEN UR EYE'S FRIENDS, $$MONEY$$ $$MILLIONS IN BONUSES$$ U should have Verizon show you this "negative" effect. Lol, in words and writing sure but 100% accurate proof including data analysis by 3rd party/partys not Affiliated whatsoever with Verizon does not/will never exhist cause its a story kinda like the Easter Bunny. Do you people not understand the technology that we are using and the capabilities at our hands? The 1% of customers with unlimited data is not something that would be an issue unless it was about money my friend. Do your research think about it come on, look what they're doing in Switzerland.
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l7777 said:
I don't really feel sorry for those who use 100+ GB/month. Those are the users that prompted the removal of the unlimited plans to start with. You can scream "unlimited is unlimited" if you want but its Verizon's sandbox and they make the rules.
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Ummm?? "UNLIMITED DATA" Do know what that means? Lol, prompted!!! $$$$
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Dammmmmmmm, I got the letter today telling me as of February 17th I will be terminated unless I select a new plan since they're pulling my unlimited data.
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1droidmod said:
Dammmmmmmm, I got the letter today telling me as of February 17th I will be terminated unless I select a new plan since they're pulling my unlimited data.
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More than 200gigs a month I suppose?
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More than 200gigs a month I suppose?
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Maybe on average.. Some months around 500 and others 100. Feb 17th I say "GOOD<--->BYE" to VZW (they terminate unless I select a plan) after 10 f*$#ing years... not too sure what I'm going to do yet but obviously I cannot afford to stay with VZW..
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And why R u saying at 100 gigs a month? Why this amount? Unjust? U r an idiot in perspective. Unjust =Hilary Clinton's Fuk'n National security (knowingly) and walking free. Unjust= people like me or in my "group" pay more in taxes than the "wealthy." UNJUST=VERIZON lying about the effects people such as myself have on "their" network I pay for by using what U stated over "100 gigs" monthly. OPEN UR EYE'S FRIENDS, $$MONEY$$ $$MILLIONS IN BONUSES$$ U should have Verizon show you this "negative" effect. Lol, in words and writing sure but 100% accurate proof including data analysis by 3rd party/partys not Affiliated whatsoever with Verizon does not/will never exhist cause its a story kinda like the Easter Bunny. Do you people not understand the technology that we are using and the capabilities at our hands? The 1% of customers with unlimited data is not something that would be an issue unless it was about money my friend. Do your research think about it come on, look what they're doing in Switzerland.
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You should send Verizon Customer Service this coherent, well thought out argument...I'm sure they will reconnect your UDP in no time....lol
Wait a second, I am currently experience a minor heart attack! They are CANCELING your UDP?!
I have not received a letter regarding this, is anyone else receiving this letter?
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/01/09/verizon-unlimited-data-200gb-limit/
I average 12GB/month (which is NOT heavy use at all) and received my letter informing my UDP is being terminated as of Feb 16. I have complained to both of my local stores and the customer service call center to no avail. I was told that once the letter was sent my fate was sealed.
armorer243 said:
I average 12GB/month (which is NOT heavy use at all) and received my letter informing my UDP is being terminated as of Feb 16. I have complained to both of my local stores and the customer service call center to no avail. I was told that once the letter was sent my fate was sealed.
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I read online last night T-Mobile has been gaining twice as many new customers as Verizon since Verizon's been pulling their $*it.
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1droidmod said:
I read online last night T-Mobile has been gaining twice as many new customers as Verizon since Verizon's been pulling their $*it.
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They will regret it, T-Mobiles service, at least here is so spotty its not even worth paying for. When my wife had it she had to use my wifi tethering just to use her phone half the time we went anywhere.
200gb a month is plenty, but the problem is the price of the new plans they want you on. Id never pay those rediculous prices.
But unlimited should be unlimited, i understand that too, but 500gb people... Come on now, that is a little excessive. I don't even come close to that downloading movies all day on my home cable network. So i can see where verizon is coming from. Fair usage.
I am sticking with my Verizon UDP for now, but i have also bought my wife a new phone on at&t's DirecTV unlimited plan that's up to 4 devices just incase verizon pulls out more bs. Figured id jump on that and get grandfathered on that also, since in my area at&t is second best if not identical to Verizon's coverage.
Sprint and T-Mobile are out if the question for me, been there done that.
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200gb a month is plenty, but the problem is the price of the new plans they want you on. Id never pay those rediculous prices.
But unlimited should be unlimited, i understand that too, but 500gb people... Come on now, that is a little excessive. I don't even come close to that downloading movies all day on my home cable network. So i can see where verizon is coming from. Fair usage.
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I agree with you on that one, 200GB/month is a bit excessive and almost abusive to the network load. But for those of us that use 12GB and end up getting our plans yanked from us is insulting. I know I purposefully sought out wifi wherever I could to keep unnecessary use of network resources to a minimum. This is the thanks I was given for my consideration.
To say I feel insulted is putting it lightly.
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I agree with you on that one, 200GB/month is a bit excessive and almost abusive to the network load. But for those of us that use 12GB and end up getting our plans yanked from us is insulting. I know I purposefully sought out wifi wherever I could to keep unnecessary use of network resources to a minimum. This is the thanks I was given for my consideration.
To say I feel insulted is putting it lightly.
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Oh I feel insulted for you as well. 12GB is not that bad at all. I average 45gb and have not received a letter yet. This whole ordeal is ridiculous. I would rather they implement a cap on the unlimited, like say 100GB or even 40GB and then slow us way down instead of just straight up removing us.