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I'm looking for a good physical keyboard for the Flyer. (It can be a dock, like the Samsung accessory for the Galaxy Tab, or just a bluetooth keyboard.) Any recommendations? Thanks
MountainX said:
I'm looking for a good physical keyboard for the Flyer. (It can be a dock, like the Samsung accessory for the Galaxy Tab, or just a bluetooth keyboard.) Any recommendations? Thanks
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I've been using the Apple bt keyboard. It works but it's not ideal. So consider it an anti-recommendation but it will work in a pinch.
InCase Workstation
I have heard that this works and is relatively inexpensive
Incase Origami Workstation
ober37 said:
I have heard that this works and is relatively inexpensive
Incase Origami Workstation
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Thanks for the tip. I saw that in a store, but I had not started looking for a physical keyboard for the Flyer at that time... so I didn't think about using it for this purpose.
I can see that it would work for organizing the Flyer and the Apple BT keyboard. I do have the Apple BT keyboard, so it's good to know that it will work.
I'm watching this review of the Incase Origami Workstation now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UsnGxXqVdk
Even though it is not expensive, it is still a high price for some covered cardboard with velcro on it. haha.
I tried the Xoom keyboard from Motorola. You have to follow the computer pairing instructions instead of the ones for Xoom.
The keyboard generally works fine but the android keys - back, home, etc - do not. Definitely suboptimal but enough for typing an email.
My experience
Dolmangar said:
I've been using the Apple bt keyboard. It works but it's not ideal. So consider it an anti-recommendation but it will work in a pinch.
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Actually i've been using mine with Apple's BT keyboard and it works like a charm!! All i have to do is turn on bluetooth for both devices and they pair straight up (after initial setups of course) The only downside i have is that the keyboard D-pad input is locked in vertical orientation (so when you type "up" it'll end up being "right" in horizontal orientation) and also that you can't type in other languages even using english based input (Japanese Roomaji or Chinese Pinyin) But otherwise, it's a beautiful keyboard that matches the colour to the flyer very well
I can say that the igo keyboard does not work. My flyer will see it, but I can't pair nor connect. It is very disappointing -_-
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I am using a keyboard case originally for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 inch on clearance for 24.99 from ThinkGeek
The android keys work except the back key. Flyer fits well. Camera does not quite line up. Pairing is quick. Reconnection works well - turn keyboard off then on instead of using link key.
Problem is capacitive buttons are covered up and with back button not working it is sometimes a pain. Wonder if capacitive buttons can be locked at bottom (in portrait mode) or to right in landscape mode?
I just ordered the Freedom Pro Bluetooth Keyboard off of amazon. When I get it I will post up a review.
Sent from my HTC EVO View. 7" of s-off 4g Fury.
I've been using the logitech bt keyboard. I haven't had any issues (except while the tablet is in landscape while type the up/down arrows are used to go side to side), but that it. Other than that I've really taken a liking to the logitech.
I bought this one for my Nook Color:
http://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-9753...2E/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1313406417&sr=8-16
Anyone tried it on the Flyer?
It works on the NC, mostly, though does exhibit erratic behavior from time to time (repeating "stuck" keys and such). Buth the Nook was never intended to have bluetooth to begin with, so I'm not sure thath would be a problem with other devices. I'm curious because I'm seriously considering buying a Flyer one of these days.
I just got the Verbatim last week. Pairs and reconnects quickly. "Home" and "menu" keys do not work. Volume keys work. Arrow keys work well in portrait orientation. Occasionally repeats characters like a key gets stuck - especially when hitting the keys hard. A soft touch works better. Folds nicely and fits in my coat pocket and came with a case. Cheaper than the Freedom keyboard.
dsf3g said:
I bought this one for my Nook Color:
http://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-9753...2E/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1313406417&sr=8-16
Anyone tried it on the Flyer?
It works on the NC, mostly, though does exhibit erratic behavior from time to time (repeating "stuck" keys and such). Buth the Nook was never intended to have bluetooth to begin with, so I'm not sure thath would be a problem with other devices. I'm curious because I'm seriously considering buying a Flyer one of these days.
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Got my flyer on Friday and have had a chance to play with the keyboard. So far it is working well. I haven't noticed the key repeating problems I had with the Nook Color. OTOH, I've only spent a few minutes with it.
So far, though, I think this is probably the bluetooth keyboard bargain. It's fairly portable and typed reasonably well. It's not as comfortable as a full size keyboard, but I can easily see myself getting used to it.
This keyboard works for me. Directional arrows move the right direction. Can type in notes app. Can't seem to navigate my folder shortcuts on homescreen, though.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Keyb...52ME/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1317819496&sr=8-2
Edit: 2/2/12. Above link seems to now be for USB version of keyboard. The Bluetooth version which works with my Flyer is http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ZJEUBI/ref=wms_ohs_product
Anyone figure out how to fix the arrow key issues yet?
Bluetooth keyboard on Gingerbread
Has anyone gotten a Bluetooth keyboard working fully on Android 2.3?
I'm using the slim mac bluetooth keyboard, works great! And slim! Except my view is black and the Mac keyboard would definitely suit the Flyer more, but oh well.
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I've just got the HP Touchpad keyboard in todays post.
Works very well, near to zero lag, not lag'less, but very close.
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butterflygirl said:
This keyboard works for me. Directional arrows move the right direction. Can type in notes app. Can't seem to navigate my folder shortcuts on homescreen, though.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Keyb...52ME/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1317819496&sr=8-2
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That one looks really good.
I wonder why my Lenovo multimedia mini keyboard doesn't work on my View.
butterflygirl said:
This keyboard works for me. Directional arrows move the right direction. Can type in notes app. Can't seem to navigate my folder shortcuts on homescreen, though.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Keyb...52ME/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1317819496&sr=8-2
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I have the Bluetooth version of this (the one link has a receiver dongle) and it's very nice for a small keyboard. When I was a big keyboard I use the Apple BT keyboard, the aluminum one, which I use with my laptop when it's docked.
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I find it kind of difficult to write with the pen, because I want to rest my hand on the tablet like a sheet of paper which then opens the virtual keyboard. My old Gateway convertible tablet, which only had pen function, no touch, was nicer (IMO) for writing because when writing, I COULD rest my hand on the screen like paper.
I would like to see a funciton that when the pen is in use (Like when the pen menu is open in the corner) the touch commands turn non-functional.
This would, in my opinion, boost the use of the pen majorly.
Does anyone else find this problem?
Also, I'm a lefty.
so right...
using both hand and pen has its pro's but i agree with you - i wish i could make the jetstream only "feel" the pen in certain situations.
personaly, i'm using a piece of clotch on the corner of the Jetstream to cover the problematic area. its a poor thing to do, but it gets me by...
maybe someday, if we'll live to see ICS on the Jetstream things will be better.
it would be great if there was a button you could press to briefly switch off the capacitative touch screen, leaving only the N-trig input. if this could be automated, then even better!
I posted on the HTC website too, hopefully they will pick it up.
I think the best note taking software right now is Quill for our tablet which recognize the n-trig and knows to ignore my hand.
If we had the support and interest in the device here in the xda community (which i don't think we do), once root is achieved, then turning off the capacitative touch while the pen menu is out could be possible... right?
Easy fix, I would think.
The solution to your issue is to use Tasker to switch the keyboard from HTC touch input to null keyboard on apps which you use the pen on.
Creds to posters on the HTC Flyer forum who had the same issue.
the issue is not just with the keyboard panel. it's with the date/notification bar the pops up every now and then..
Thanks for the info on Tasker and Null Keyboard. This works great, although Quill will likely remain my go-to app for taking longer notes.
I have to push way too hard in the Quill app to get pen strokes to appear... Thats the only negative to me. There needs to be a sensitivity option.
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I have to push way too hard in the Quill app to get pen strokes to appear... Thats the only negative to me. There needs to be a sensitivity option.
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Totally difference for me, I think it's really sensitive... Or it could just be the pen. Sometimes my pen acts really wonky like constantly giving out input signal even when I am not touching the screen.
New solution for this:
using app like "no system bar"
does the trick, now the root is available
Coming from a TF101 OG Transformer, I was concerned that the dock would be perhaps not up to my expectations, considering the thinner design. For starters, it was only offering a single USB port, to the two on the OG Transformer, and while the first version was reasonable to type on (and hugely better than ANY soft keyboard) the new one was described as having less key travel, and and while no reviewer seemed to have major issues, and I wasn't seeing glowing reports either.
I just got my dock, less than 10 minutes ago, I and I am typing this on it right now, and and for me, and if not for everyone, it BLOWS AWAY the OG Dock. First and foremost is how it is to type on. It issignificantly better for me, and the two fingers tango I do. I am not a touch typist, in spite of 20 + yeaars in IT and support. I have to look at the keyboard, but let me just say the they keys and the travel? They could have been designed by a German engineering firm, for a BMW or Mercedes. They feel awesome! Even with the lag we see on web applications (same as OG, though FW revisons almost completely eliminted it, I suspect ICS will squash any remaining lag, coupled with the right build from ASUS.
Apart from typing, the design? I am glad it doesn't have to do any wireless, cause its aluminum back and front LOL, and looks like a billion bucks. Closed, the TP feels like a solid chunk of aluminum, and I mean SOLID. The touch pad is terrific, I LOVE the way they eliminated the "buttons" in favor of a dividing line, and in spite of it's obvious relationship to the OG, this is better in every way. I was a bit worried, but not anymore. I give this thing a 9.5 score out of ten.
For peope on the fence about getting the dock, run, don't walk to the thread that explains how to get these in a few days from Best Buy, using OMS. The DOCK ROCKS!!!
Curious to see how folks coming to the Prime as first Tablet, or replacing something other than the OG Transformer feel about the dock. What does everyone else think?
NOTE: For those that missed it, don't forget to take out the plastic tabs at the base of the tablet screen, they MUST be removed before placing it in the dock. Also, if you are feeling a slight current "buzz" when touching the metal lightly, unplucg the power supply from the wall, and turn it upside down (so the word "Asus" is upside down. This is the only workaround I m aware of for the issue.
Lastly, can asus get rid of the goofy notification that says
"Docking connected. Use Keyboard to type words"
I know what they are trying to say, I.E. Don't use the soft keyboard (duh) what do they think we would use the KB for than to type words? As a $150 back scratcher? Really unnecessary notification.
I actually received my dock a week before my tablet. Both were ordered from BB back a couple days after the first pre-orders showed up on their site. (You had to go hunting to find the dock, but it was there.)
I've got zero problems with the dock or the tablet in daily use. I would agree that the notification should either be eliminated or at least be allowed to be closed. The extra battery life it provides the tablet is fantastic. The key travel isn't that bad; I expected worse.
My only peeve is I wish the right shift was wide like the left. I find myself hitting the damn up arrow every once in awhile by accident.
Love it
The battery life when coupled with the dock is practically an eternity.
I also really like the Android specific hot-keys. ASUS did a great job picking the common actions and making them into a hot-key. I can tap a button to instantly get into "settings" as one example. It's just amazing.
With the introduction of the following three features this really becomes an enterprise class solution for mobile computing:
1) ICS support of VPN IPSec Groups
2) Ability to encrypt hard drive contents. (no not bootloader, user data)
3) Fully functional Keyboard
Who needs to carry a bulky laptop at that point. I could do almost all of my business travel with this thing and then ditch the keyboard when I get home.
don't have mine yet. how is it for those of us who ARE touch typists?
(I see my dad going at it with 2 fingers, but he grew up before PCs. I don't get how anyone under 40 isn't a touch typist these days!)
theoilman said:
don't have mine yet. how is it for those of us who ARE touch typists?
(I see my dad going at it with 2 fingers, but he grew up before PCs. I don't get how anyone under 40 isn't a touch typist these days!)
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I know what you mean, but I'm under 40 and can touch type over 60 wpm in the best conditions.
I have rather large hands for a keyboard that small and as I mentioned, the only key that bugs is the right shift. Everything else is pretty good.
I want to know what happened to the low range speaker they said was going to be in the dock...
I was kind of looking forward to it.
soulctcher said:
I know what you mean, but I'm under 40 and can touch type over 60 wpm in the best conditions.
I have rather large hands for a keyboard that small and as I mentioned, the only key that bugs is the right shift. Everything else is pretty good.
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ok good to hear. I almost always use the left shift anyway.
It was only a rumor. And such solution would probably be hard to create because you shouldn't connect audio equipement "live" - you would have to turn off the audio amplifier in the tablet before connecting / disconnecting the dock to avoid surge (is it a good word? dictionary was not helpful...). Unless the speaker had it's own amplifier, hm...
Got my dock a few days ago and I love it. The keyboard is a little cramped but after 5 to 10 minutes of use you'll be adjusted to it and typing as though it is a regular sized keyboard. Also I discovered that ctrl + V actually pastes! I haven't found any other common shortcuts like that, if anyone knows any please post them. ctrl + f unfortunately doesn't start a browser word find but you can just hit the option list and start one up pretty easily.
The battery life is amazing. I spent about 6 non stop hours yesterday listening to pandora with a bluetooth headset while constantly browsing reddit and chatting on windows live messenger through the beejive app. At the end of the 6 hours my tablet still had 75% battery left but the dock was completely used up.
This is how the dock battery works... when your tablet reaches 70% charge the dock will begin relaying power to the tablet and recharge it up to 98% or so. Once there the dock will stop relaying power and wait until the tablet falls to 70% and repeat the process until the dock is dead.
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It was only a rumor. And such solution would probably be hard to create because you shouldn't connect audio equipement "live" - you would have to turn off the audio amplifier in the tablet before connecting / disconnecting the dock to avoid surge (is it a good word? dictionary was not helpful...). Unless the speaker had it's own amplifier, hm...
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Actually, the subwoofer wasn't just a rumor. I have it on good authority (very good, in fact) that there was going to be a subwoofer in the dock but that it was dropped prior to release. No reason why, but maybe this surge issue (or something else, of course) was the reason.
It was listed on some marketing materials at launch, and then dropped pretty quickly. Many sites still listed the incorrect specs, however, and so the idea lived on for awhile.
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monkeydog said:
This is how the dock battery works... when your tablet reaches 70% charge the dock will begin relaying power to the tablet and recharge it up to 98% or so. Once there the dock will stop relaying power and wait until the tablet falls to 70% and repeat the process until the dock is dead.
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Thanks for that clarification, I was wondering. I kind of like how the TF101 dock works, by keeping the tablet topped off at 100% until it runs out. I wonder what their reasoning is...
I'm pretty happy with the dock. Certainly much thinner and lighter than the TF101. The only thing I wish they would have kept from the original was the covers for the USB port. Instead of the nifty little cover that snaps back in place there is a rubber stopper. It's petty to be sure, but I have a touch of OCD.
have any of you tested out the USB host capabilities yet? what are things you hooked up and found to work instantLy? has anyone hooked up a wireless controller by putting receiving piece in USB port? I just want to know what kinds of things are possible with dock USB host capabilities. like what's the most device you hooked up to USB hub connected to prime dock and still worked without external power source needed.
theoilman said:
don't have mine yet. how is it for those of us who ARE touch typists?
(I see my dad going at it with 2 fingers, but he grew up before PCs. I don't get how anyone under 40 isn't a touch typist these days!)
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and how!
I learned to touch type to argue on irc when I was in high school like, uh, 16 years ago. I can't imagine an IT pro not touch typing. It makes you look dumb in the same way as when you meet a scientist who sounds like a hillbilly.
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demandarin said:
have any of you tested out the USB host capabilities yet? what are things you hooked up and found to work instantLy? has anyone hooked up a wireless controller by putting receiving piece in USB port? I just want to know what kinds of things are possible with dock USB host capabilities. like what's the most device you hooked up to USB hub connected to prime dock and still worked without external power source needed.
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when I get mine, I'm gonna test my DWA-130 usb N adapter.
also gonna test my logitech unifying adapter and my g330 usb headset.
Got mine today, ordered from NewEgg on 1/3. Only played with it for a few minutes, but first thing I noticed is, the build quality of the trackpad is a little shoddy. It doesn't feel real solid in there, when I do a single tap in the main area it makes a little creak sound and pushes in a tiny bit. Also the paint around the edges of the trackpad looked a little scuffed in some spots - not a big deal, but kinda lame. Otherwise the dock is fine.
Anyone else have a slight creak when tapping in the main area or is it just mine? Maybe I'm just spoiled by Apple's trackpads, lol
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The damn thing is beautiful, beyond what I expected, far easier and more "natural" to use than I thought it would be, a match made in heaven for the tablet, when closed makes me feel like my tablet is safer and more secure, and doesn't seem like I've added any weight or thickness at all to what I already had.
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I've been a little obsessed with keeping the Prime safe from scratches and now it seems like I have one big scratch magnet, so they are currently bundled together and wrapped in a very soft micro-fleece towel. I was using a sleeve from the OG for the tablet and that worked just fine but doesn't accommodate the addition of the dock at all. I'll be much much happier when I can find the perfect case/sleeve for them both to live in.
OK, played with it for about an hour now...
Overall I like it, but the trackpad is kind of junky, think netbook quality, feels cheap. It doesn't always register the two-finger scrolls, maybe partly because your fingers have to be about 1 inch apart. I remember the OG tf101 trackpad is the same way, it's too bad Asus didn't really improve on it.
Then again, I'm a Mac user, Apple's track pads are the best out there, so maybe it's not fair to compare, lol.
The keyboard itself does feel nice though, keys have plenty of travel to them. Found a few weird quirks though, using the YouTube app, the search field doesn't seem to recognize the space bar, so I couldn't enter spaces into my search queries. It works in the browser fine though. Also 2-finger scrolling doesn't seem to work in Opera browser, all it does is zoom in on the page. Works fine in Dolphin HD though.
Really looking forward to the ICS update next week, will be interesting to see if Asus also releases a dock firmware update as well.
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Keyboard dock is great, except for three minor issues for me:
- the right shift key is my default shift, for the way that I type. It's not in the usual position and it is tiny. So, I constantly hit the page up button by mistake when intending to make a cap letter. Biggest issue for me.
- you have to remember to disable the touchpad when typing most things. My thumb dangling over the spacebar would inadvertantly hit the pad, and change my cursor position while typing.
- there's not easy way to open the closed/docked TFP. The front seam is tightly closed. I'm sure I will get used to opening from the side though.
Other than that, I've gotten use to the slightly smaller key layout already, and I have decent sized hands.
Build quality is great, not scuff, as others mentioned had mentioned they had. The front by the trackpad is so thin, it's almost sharp though. I've also not had issues with reboots when docking/undocking, as another person mentioned. I did get a firmware update for the dock though.. dunno is that made a difference.
Highly recommended though. Very nice piece of kit.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda premium
tdp252 said:
The battery life when coupled with the dock is practically an eternity.
I also really like the Android specific hot-keys. ASUS did a great job picking the common actions and making them into a hot-key. I can tap a button to instantly get into "settings" as one example. It's just amazing.
With the introduction of the following three features this really becomes an enterprise class solution for mobile computing:
1) ICS support of VPN IPSec Groups
2) Ability to encrypt hard drive contents. (no not bootloader, user data)
3) Fully functional Keyboard
Who needs to carry a bulky laptop at that point. I could do almost all of my business travel with this thing and then ditch the keyboard when I get home.
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VPN IPSec Groups tops my list. Just baffles me that this is even an issue. You would think it would be in both Google and Cisco's best interests.
Is the encryption located under Location and Security in settings different than what your after?
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Bimboy said:
Keyboard dock is great, except for three minor issues for me:
- the right shift key is my default shift, for the way that I type. It's not in the usual position and it is tiny. So, I constantly hit the page up button by mistake when intending to make a cap letter. Biggest issue for me.
- you have to remember to disable the touchpad when typing most things. My thumb dangling over the spacebar would inadvertantly hit the pad, and change my cursor position while typing.
- there's not easy way to open the closed/docked TFP. The front seam is tightly closed. I'm sure I will get used to opening from the side though.
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Hopefully the left shift is decent. I only use the left!
I wonder if it's possible for them to implement an auto disable of the trackpad when typing? That would definitely be nice as opposed to having to do it manually all the time.
I got the dock on order from bestbuy (never knew about getting them to do "OMS orders"), I'll have mine in a week. Time to get my little dvorak stickers, I personally HATE typing on the touchscreen, even on the phone I don't like it that much (ICS voice typing saved my life in that case). Anyway, type slowly and lose a lot of screen real estate or type over 100 wpm and have better battery life and a full size usb seems like a no brainer to me.
Also, for people who are not touch typists, using a software keyboard isn't going to help you get past that much. Just don't look at the keyboard when you are typing and before long you will be able to type with your eyes closed and still even detect the mistakes you might make
Ehi Hello all... Amazon send me my tfp just yesterday, and boss i'm playing with my new toy.
Very pleased but now a little idea hit me..
Anyone have a link/know a site where i can find guide/suggestion about modding keyboard and put a backlitted one on my prime?
Thank you all.
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Evil_Sephiroth said:
Ehi Hello all... Amazon send me my tfp just yesterday, and boss i'm playing with my new toy.
Very pleased but now a little idea hit me..
Anyone have a link/know a site where i can find guide/suggestion about modding keyboard and put a backlitted one on my prime?
Thank you all.
Sent from my LT26i using XDA
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Hmm, no. It could be done, but you'd be physically modifying each key yourself and adding your own LED's and everything, I don't think another keypad would fit right. And then your battery consumption would go through the roof, you'd likely want to increase the size of the battery in the keyboard.
There's not going to be a simple way to do it, and I'm afraid none of these ASUS devices are going to get popular enough to warrant a ton of third-party support and products, not for ones like that anyway.
i actually thought of this a while ago and took my keyboard apart. It does not connect like your laptop keyboard for easy removal (that i remember) and there is VERY little space in there to work with. Overall i think it would be more work than its worth.
You would have to find a keyboard with transparent keys, or find a way to make your keys transparent if you want the letters to glow. This is hard because the keyboard is like, 80% or something of a regular keyboard.
If you just want a glow between the keys this might be a little easier, you would still have to find a way to route power to LED's and find room to place them under the leys which, honestly, do not travel very far meaning you need very small LED's
There ARE small enough LEDs (the size of like, a large grain of sand? not sure how to explain it) and you technically COULD solder those to the ribbon wires (like what connects the screen to the mobo in the prime), supplying power, then route the ribbon around where the keys are, connect to a switch which you route to the outside of the dock and connect to power and BAM you have a backlight keyboard!
But honestly, thats a lot of work and you would have to fabricate everything yourself.
Good luck and dont forget to let us know how it works (with pictures along the way)
glow in the dark keyboard stickers!
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
Mmmmh by the way probably with "edge led" lighting and semi-trasparent keyboard I can at least turn my prime keyboard to a littler visible in the dark....
In a LOT easy way i can put on all key a reflective or luminescent paint, and probably light form the screen is enough to make keyboard visible....
I need to try all this...
rorytmeadows said:
glow in the dark keyboard stickers!
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
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Damn you beat my brain XD
Smart idea with the stickers!
But btw I suggested an idea to mod the keyboard and put bigger batteries or larger capacity, and maybe mod the backplate of the keyboard aswell in order to fit the possible larger batteries.
It shouldn't be a difficult operation I believe and imagine the battery life increase if its a success
Johnny0906 said:
Smart idea with the stickers!
But btw I suggested an idea to mod the keyboard and put bigger batteries or larger capacity, and maybe mod the backplate of the keyboard aswell in order to fit the possible larger batteries.
It shouldn't be a difficult operation I believe and imagine the battery life increase if its a success
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X2 on this. The prime is beautiful and super thin, but I would have no problem if it was thicker with even more battery.
One of the biggest advantages (other than the ridiculous battery life) would be that it would make the dock and all much more bottom heavy.
Edit: Does anyone know if it would be possible to buy the Transformer Prime or Original Transformer dock batteries. IIRC the OG Transformer had a 3300mAh battery. I wonder if it could be wired into the original battery and then a spacer installed.
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X2 on this. The prime is beautiful and super thin, but I would have no problem if it was thicker with even more battery.
One of the biggest advantages (other than the ridiculous battery life) would be that it would make the dock and all much more bottom heavy.
Edit: Does anyone know if it would be possible to buy the Transformer Prime or Original Transformer dock batteries. IIRC the OG Transformer had a 3300mAh battery. I wonder if it could be wired into the original battery and then a spacer installed.
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Im planning on opening mine at some point not right now because I am still testing ths unit and may have to return it.
But it doesnt 'feel' like its a difficult operation. Just find bigger batteries, change them, modifiy the plate beneath to fit the new space which should need to be too big but what the hey the bigger the better, more battery life (ALOT MORE) and finally some weight to the bottom to have it easier in your lap or wherever.
We have to keep discussing about it and finding out what sort batteries are used right now in the dock, dimensions and so on.
I believe its an awesome idea!
Johnny0906 said:
Im planning on opening mine at some point not right now because I am still testing ths unit and may have to return it.
But it doesnt 'feel' like its a difficult operation. Just find bigger batteries, change them, modifiy the plate beneath to fit the new space which should need to be too big but what the hey the bigger the better, more battery life (ALOT MORE) and finally some weight to the bottom to have it easier in your lap or wherever.
We have to keep discussing about it and finding out what sort batteries are used right now in the dock, dimensions and so on.
I believe its an awesome idea!
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When you open it be VERY, and i do mean VERY carefull, the tabs on the side of the dock break very easially and, as a result, will cause it not to hold closed as well.
Also, under the latching mech there are a few screws, hidden by the stickers that act as padding. again, carefull as you remove this because you dont want to deform the sticky padding nor do you want to lose screws.
Also make sure to take lots of pictures!
Oh, and +1 for the glow in the dark keyboard stickers! pwnt!
This would be an awesome mod. If you go through with it and succeed, would love to see pictures, and a guide on how to do it, if possible. Not sure I'd be willing to try it on mine if it's too complex. If it's the glow in the dark paint though, as opposed to the leds, it might not be that bad.
Personally, if it were an issue for me (which it isn't!), I'd buy a USB keyboard light such as this:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/30/mr-brightside-usb-keyboard-light-illuminates-your-keys-taste-i/
Regards,
Dave
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When you open it be VERY, and i do mean VERY carefull, the tabs on the side of the dock break very easially and, as a result, will cause it not to hold closed as well.
Also, under the latching mech there are a few screws, hidden by the stickers that act as padding. again, carefull as you remove this because you dont want to deform the sticky padding nor do you want to lose screws.
Also make sure to take lots of pictures!
Oh, and +1 for the glow in the dark keyboard stickers! pwnt!
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Thanks for the advice, I will most likely start doing this next month as I may change to the T700 but the keyboard is just the same I believe right?
The only major differences between the Prime and the Infinity is the 1080p screen and that the CPU will be 1.6 Ghz
My Prime is defect and I the shop from which I purchased it are not taking in any more of them and so I came to an agreement that I will get the T700 instead and just pay the difference.
But im thinking about maybe buying a second keyboard just for experimental purposes.
I think if we all could put our heads together we could create a very cool mod
I would have 'dissected' my Dock right now if I wasn't going to return it.
We'll discuss more about this, I dont see why it should be hard, and yes I shall take a ton of pictures.
Cheers.
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foxmeister said:
Personally, if it were an issue for me (which it isn't!), I'd buy a USB keyboard light such as this:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/30/mr-brightside-usb-keyboard-light-illuminates-your-keys-taste-i/
Regards,
Dave
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Hehe that's cool but I think it enough with some high quality stickers, maybe even just the material that you cut into the the shape of the keyboard strokes and place them, tha would be even easier but also the battery thing would be the truly cool thing to do if its a success of course.
foxmeister said:
Personally, if it were an issue for me (which it isn't!), I'd buy a USB keyboard light such as this:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/30/mr-brightside-usb-keyboard-light-illuminates-your-keys-taste-i/
Regards,
Dave
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I have something similar for my laptop and I hate it. It casts shadows across the keys and doesn't illuminate everything uniformly. Not to mention, it's an eye sore.
I'd love for some to come out with a very thin line of lights that would sit at the top of the keyboard beaming directed light towards the keys (in your direction), but so directed that it doesn't go straight into your eye. It would be low profile and sit just behind the keyboard, under the monitor.
I still think stickers are the better option, but I personally wouldn't invest until there was a cool font in the right color (blue!).
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Thanks for the advice, I will most likely start doing this next month as I may change to the T700 but the keyboard is just the same I believe right?
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Is this confirmed that the keyboard will be the same? I've heard contradicting info on that. I'd make certain that this keyboard will be compatible with the 700 before you start tinkering with it.
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Is this confirmed that the keyboard will be the same? I've heard contradicting info on that. I'd make certain that this keyboard will be compatible with the 700 before you start tinkering with it.
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nobody knows for sure, there is some speculation that the dock will be slightly different, the 700 may be slightly thicker, but nobody knows for sure.
Hi Guys,
I think this is a great idea, I have been looking for ways to do this myself, have you made any progress at all before I start?
Solution?
Do you think we could use EL wire and just weave it through the keyboard keys?
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Do you think we could use EL wire and just weave it through the keyboard keys?
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wire is too thick / not enough space.
I have a 700, the prime is SLIGHTLY different (curved edges, 700 is more angular) tho they both fit in the same dock, you just gotta work it a little to get the 700 in properly.
Internally the dock is the same for the infinity and the prime.
Would love to see a mod with an extra battery. Here's a video on a tear down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwAypkC26Cc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I just got the Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 and like it, but the keyboard cover that Samsung makes for it has a terrible problem. The keys seem to send double characters while touch typping. See that PP in typping? That's what I meann and it happens a lot. There's another one.
Is that common or do I just have a bad one? Is there a setting I'm missing that might fix this?
I have the same issue with my Samsung keyboard book case. It's really annoying.
I would like to know if this is a hardware problem that could maybe solved by using a keyboard case from an other vendor or if it is a software problem caused by the keyboard driver.
are there any from other vendors?
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are there any from other vendors?
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On amazon.de I found keyboard cases for the Tab S4 from four different vendors (ISVO, ELTD, MoKo, Fintie). But when I look at the pictures and the descriptions it seems that it is the same hardware. Pricing is between 30€ and 35€.
Unfortunately these are all Bluetooth keyboards. It seems that there is no other PoGo keyboard except the Samsung one.
Now that I know that I'm not the only who have this "keypress double trouble" I wonder if it is a general problem with this keyboard or if we both just had bad luck.
I think that I let replace my keyboard. Then I'll see if the next one is better.
I'm turning mine.
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I'm turning mine.
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I'll also send my keyboard back and buy a bluetooth keyboard for a few bucks. If Samsung should fix the problem some day I will buy a new one.
It seems that many users have the same problem:
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5...cpage/board-id/tablets/thread-id/13114/page/1
I will also report my problems there and at some other places. It seems that Samsung need some "pressure" before they see a need for action.
I have the multi keyboard (I am from Canada) and am not experiencing this "double key" issue. I got the Tab S4 and keyboard last Dec.
Has anyone had any luck with a replacement? I am having this issue and it's becoming a HUGE problem. I like the case but I have to return it if this is going to keep happening.
This issue is also on the tab s3 with bluetooth keyboards.
The work around I read about long ago is to turn off auto spacing (I think). Either that or auto correct.
I turned the keyboard upside down (keys pointing downside) and placed it on my legs so that the keys could be free running (I hope that this sentence is understandable). Then I can tapped repeatedly against the bottom (that was pointing to the upside). I used some force but of course not so much that the keyboard could have been damaged. Nearly no more double characters since this procedure.
It seems that it is a mechanical problem. It's unbelievable that such an expensive product is poorly manufactured. Samsung obviously has a problem with its quality control.
OT: Some years ago I bought a really expensive color calibrated Samsung 4k UHD monitor. I sent back the first two units because they had a massive problem with backlighting. Finally the third one was ok.
I think I should avoid to buy Samsung products in the future.