[Q] Has anybody tried out official CM yet? - Xperia Z2 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have seen that official CM versions have been released:
SGP 52x: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=castor
SGP 51x:https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=castor_windy
I am still using the (rooted) Sony stock firmware. I would prefer the look and feel of CM, but I hesitate to switch because the battery runtime and performance of the tablet is so awesome.
Has anybody tried out those official CM builds yet?
How is performance and battery runtime?
Any major bugs?

BabelHuber said:
Has anybody tried out those official CM builds yet?
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I'm trying.

I just have tried it out now
So far everything is looking great! Performance with ART is great, also is responsiveness.
Cannot say anything about battery runtime yet. But overall I prefer it over stock.

BabelHuber said:
I just have tried it out now
So far everything is looking great! Performance with ART is great, also is responsiveness.
Cannot say anything about battery runtime yet. But overall I prefer it over stock.
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I had a Motorola Xoom (since it was original released by Verizon) and had CM 11 and 4.4.4 on it. It worked beautifully even on hardware that old. I just picked up the Verizon Xperia Z2 tablet. I like it a lot but I do prefer CM 11. I haven't rooted yet as I am wading through all the forums trying to understand exactly the best way to root, install CWM or TWRP (I like TWRP better) and then load CM 11.
If you don't mind me asking... What model are you running? Was there a specific guide that you used to root? Are you using either CWM or TWRP?
Dave

stupid question, but how the hell do you install this. i tried flashing it thru twrp (using nut dual recovery) for sgp 511, but i just got a black screen afterwords afterwords. i also couldn't reinstall my nut recovery after the flash, so i ended up having to flash back to stock, root, and install twrp and then flashed my original backup to get back the way i was.
i am really only interested in it if it makes touch responsiveness better cause at times i want to throw the thing out the window when it wont touch near where im touching it.
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dccrens said:
I had a Motorola Xoom (since it was original released by Verizon) and had CM 11 and 4.4.4 on it. It worked beautifully even on hardware that old. I just picked up the Verizon Xperia Z2 tablet. I like it a lot but I do prefer CM 11. I haven't rooted yet as I am wading through all the forums trying to understand exactly the best way to root, install CWM or TWRP (I like TWRP better) and then load CM 11.
If you don't mind me asking... What model are you running? Was there a specific guide that you used to root? Are you using either CWM or TWRP?
Dave
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this will give you root and 3 bootable recoveries on stock rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785598

dccrens said:
If you don't mind me asking... What model are you running? Was there a specific guide that you used to root? Are you using either CWM or TWRP?
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I am using this CWM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708194
My device is an SGP512. After flashing CM, you automatically have root, you just need to enable it in the developer settings.
thecrunked said:
stupid question, but how the hell do you install this. i tried flashing it thru twrp (using nut dual recovery) for sgp 511, but i just got a black screen afterwords afterwords. i also couldn't reinstall my nut recovery after the flash, so i ended up having to flash back to stock, root, and install twrp and then flashed my original backup to get back the way i was.
i am really only interested in it if it makes touch responsiveness better cause at times i want to throw the thing out the window when it wont touch near where im touching it.
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I installed CM11 like described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...2-tabletdevelopment-cm11-android-4-4-t2809793
Install instructions:
first time
- power off the phone:
- hold vol+ and plug usb to boot into fastboot (blu led)
- fastboot flash boot boot.img (from cm10 zip)
- fastboot reboot
- enter recovery, on boot led will be violet for 3'', during this period press vol+
- flash rom zip
- flash gapps zip
- wipe
- reboot
for update just flash rom zip from recovery
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I assume you did not flash the boot.img first...
Touch responsiveness is better with CM, I haven't had the stock ROM bugs. But battery runtime is a little bit better with stock, I guess this is because the screen is brighter when using CM with automatic brightness. I adjusted the brightness settings meanwhile, but it is too early to report results, I have to use it for a few days first.

thecrunked said:
stupid question, but how the hell do you install this. i tried flashing it thru twrp (using nut dual recovery) for sgp 511, but i just got a black screen afterwords afterwords. i also couldn't reinstall my nut recovery after the flash, so i ended up having to flash back to stock, root, and install twrp and then flashed my original backup to get back the way i was.
i am really only interested in it if it makes touch responsiveness better cause at times i want to throw the thing out the window when it wont touch near where im touching it.
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this will give you root and 3 bootable recoveries on stock rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785598
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Did you unlock your boOtloader. If not you can only run stock kernel
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Finally running M9, all looks good to me.

Can't wait to try this, returning my Galaxy Tab Lag, I mean S, and going to order a Z2.

As I wrote elsewhere:
At the moment installing CM has no real advantages over using stock ROM, but some disadvantages.
Battery life is clearly better with stock; stock has way better audio (louder, clearer - via the built-in enhancers) over the internal speakers; stock has more built-in features.
I tested CM for some days, but there really was nothing which stock firmware .314 (with Xposed, of course) could not do or even do better.

Turbojugend said:
Can't wait to try this, returning my Galaxy Tab Lag, I mean S, and going to order a Z2.
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I'm using CM and preferring it over stock. Battery runtime is a little bit worse (at least with M9) , but it doesn't carry the Sony bloat (which I don't use anyways), supports ART and has the CM theme engine. Overall it's snappy and performs well.
But to each its own, stock isn't bad too.

Sony bloat? Titanium Backup, and there you go.
ART? It has been proven that ART brings NO speed advantage over Dalvik in pre-L Android. And you can't use Xposed anymore. So, using ART is not wise.
Theme engine? Superfluous.

hasenbein1966 said:
Sony bloat? Titanium Backup, and there you go.[/QUOTE
Yes, but you need to debloat after every update. I consider this to be annoying.
hasenbein1966 said:
ART? It has been proven that ART brings NO speed advantage over Dalvik in pre-L Android. And you can't use Xposed anymore. So, using ART is not wise.
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I don't need Xposed for CM, but I needed it for stock even to get an advanced reboot menu. Lots of settings which require Xposed at stock are included in CM per default.
Besides I switched back from ART to Dalvik meanwhile, still liking CM better.
hasenbein1966 said:
Theme engine? Superfluous.
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Come on, the first thing I did with my tablet was to install Nova launcher and Holo locker, because Sony's UI looks butt-ugly compared to AOSP!
The Sony themes are also a joke, CM with a good theme looks significantly better. I won't go back to stock for this alone.
But the final reason I switched to an AOSP - derivate were minor annoyances, like when copying an URL from a browser. CM does not have such little annoyances.
Regarding the battery runtime, CM is bright as hell after installation. You need to adjust the values manually. I lose between 1 and 2 hours of screen time with CM (9 to 10th instead of 11), so this is no deal breaker.
But of course you have to find the settings for adjusting the auto-brightness (brightness - settings - adjust), otherwise battery runtime in deed is low.
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BabelHuber said:
because Sony's UI looks butt-ugly compared to AOSP!
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BS. Sony's UI is really elegant and modern. While the AOSP UI is aging.
You can say that YOU personally like the AOSP look better, but to call the Sony UI "butt-ugly" is pure BS.
You are of course entitled to prefer CM just because of the looks (this is what it boils down to...) while dispensing with features and battery time - just like anyone is entitled to what he wants - but smart it isn't.

hasenbein1966 said:
BS. Sony's UI is really elegant and modern. While the AOSP UI is aging.
You can say that YOU personally like the AOSP look better, but to call the Sony UI "butt-ugly" is pure BS.
You are of course entitled to prefer CM just because of the looks (this is what it boils down to...) while dispensing with features and battery time - just like anyone is entitled to what he wants - but smart it isn't.
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I don't want to be part of a flame war here, so I won't comment on your BS about smartness.
Honestly, if you like the mess of Sony's UI, just use it. CM with a good L theme is light years ahead IMO.
Also, you conveniently ignore the parts where I mention stuff like no bloat, more options (with no need for Xposed), missing annoyances of stock and snappyness/performance.
The additional 'features' of the stock ROM are completely useless for me. They are just unnecessary bloat in my case.
I personally don't give a rat's ass about one hour of screen time more or less when we talk about 10h! Then I charge the battery with 20% instead of 30%. So what?
Of course you are entitled to have a different opinion, and that's why different ROMs exist in the first place. Just don't act like your choice is the only sensible one for everybody, please!

been on cm for awhile now and I like it.. but just gone back to stock to try out the new update.. i agree stock is irritating for me its just that little bit laggier than cm..... typing, changing browser tabs, flicking between apps. cm is definitely just that bit quicker...
going to stick on stock for abit longer(yes battery is good but its not bad in cm).. Thinking of going back...
anyway the jurys out..
i want sony to make it as fluent as cm. then ill stick i recon.

hasenbein1966 said:
Sony bloat? Titanium Backup, and there you go.
ART? It has been proven that ART brings NO speed advantage over Dalvik in pre-L Android. And you can't use Xposed anymore. So, using ART is not wise.
Theme engine? Superfluous.
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Hey, nexus user here, Google velocity rom, they proved that it does

*patting your head* Of cooouurse.... :laugh:

Off topic, art truly is faster, the problem on many non nexus devices is the implementation

I'm back on CM again, tried the new stock for a week. But on my tab it's just too frustrating(typing and the occasional double tap in browsers) which barely happens on CM it's just smoother and yes double tap to turn on works nicely and the speakers are nice and loud.

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Stock or Custome Rom? Plz Help?

Hi guys, kindly take my post serious, and give me honest opinions, let me explain my situation.
Like many of you, I have LG G2, International 802, i am confused whether to flash 4.4 Custom ROM (CM11 seems to be only relaible choice) or stay at stock 4.2.2 because phone is just a phone and all Apps work anyway.
Unlike most of you, i am from Pakistan, i purchased G2 brand new in Black, because its not launched officially here, which means i am under no warranty or unroot problems to get repairs etc. from company, so losing warranty is not an issue for me.
I am confused, whether to root, flash CM 11 or stay on stock and wait for official 4.4. I know even official 4.4 will look same as 4.2.2. Stock android look like Nexus is my preference, i like it, but reading so many people having troubles with custom ROMSs, and the difficulty, makes me confused, either to stay as it is, or make a move and flash CM11.
My past experience of flashing ROMs, was when i had back up Xperia 10 mini, i use to flash CM9 on it easily and use to go back on stock as well, which android 2.1 for it.
Guys kindly with your experience, should i go for flashing, install CWM recovery, official semi touch one and flash CM11 in normal way, or should i stay satisfied as i am today? will flashing CM11 and its bugs going to ruin my daily use?
Also tell me, i read intensively how to come back to stock, but many people having trouble in that as well?
Should i make a move or should i sit idle? I know many users like me, must confused like me, your help can be fruitful for us?
I'd say go for cleanrom or rayglobe and find some mods for stock lots of things you can do with xposed
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I miss only one thing on LG rom, stock aosp notification center
Incep said:
I'd say go for cleanrom or rayglobe and find some mods for stock lots of things you can do with xposed
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Thanks for your kind reply, being less familiar with ROMs, i assume that CM11 is the best and relatively more professional then most other ROM developers, i feel there product have more chance of being less buggy, thats what i assume, since going closer to stock android is my goal, not the tweaks as yet, in hate i hate processor option in CM11, why a user need to mess with clocking. I can be wrong here, frequent ROM user must know better which ROMS are more stable.
Xposed, i think i can use that with stock LG ROM as well, well i don't want to change menu bar and notification bar because i read in xposed forums, lots of people are having not to smooth time with it, it must be ok but i am ok without it, smaller bar or normal bar. Only thing i dont like about LG stock menu bar is, no multitasking key.
So you suggest me, to dive into a custom rom and you prefer a clean ROM for me.
kapybarus said:
I miss only one thing on LG rom, stock aosp notification center
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I miss look and feel of stock android, stock is LG is sort of rip off, of Touch Wiz, i don't need air gestures, i need smoothness, fluidness, i like dark colours of stock pull down bar, and other things of my friends Galaxy Nexus.
The first thing I did after verifying the G2 I received was a keeper (first one was a dud) was install a different rom. I went though several 4.3 roms and even tried some of the 4.4 roms that came out but in the end as of right now I running a lite version of the stock rom (Malladus). I didn't think I would ever run stock but I found a lot of the features I enjoyed with custom roms I was able to get by using Xposed and stock seemed to be more stable and I really wanted a fully functional camera. Even though there are still a few things about the stock rom I don't like, they are very minor and i can live with them.
heymoe said:
The first thing I did after verifying the G2 I received was a keeper (first one was a dud) was install a different rom. I went though several 4.3 roms and even tried some of the 4.4 roms that came out but in the end as of right now I running a lite version of the stock rom (Malladus). I didn't think I would ever run stock but I found a lot of the features I enjoyed with custom roms I was able to get by using Xposed and stock seemed to be more stable and I really wanted a fully functional camera. Even though there are still a few things about the stock rom I don't like, they are very minor and i can live with them.
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Well, thanks for the reply, i know stock has features, most i don't use, incredibly i don't knock on either, as i got use to of buttons, yeah, call and sms blocker, i hope CM11 may have them, i want to change for the look and feel of Stock android, and hopefully fluidness, as far as features are concerned, LG stock must have them all covered?
So you have reverted back to LG stock rom, lite version, then why not the official stock rom? HMM.
usmanxhmed said:
Well, thanks for the reply, i know stock has features, most i don't use, incredibly i don't knock on either, as i got use to of buttons, yeah, call and sms blocker, i hope CM11 may have them, i want to change for the look and feel of Stock android, and hopefully fluidness, as far as features are concerned, LG stock must have them all covered?
So you have reverted back to LG stock rom, lite version, then why not the official stock rom? HMM.
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I mainly went with a lite stock rom for the debloat. I did run official stock and just disable things that I didn't want running but even after that there were a few things I couldn't disable plus I don't care for a lot of the LG apps. Malladus has a base that is debloated with most of the LG apps but also provides a LG App package that you can flash afterwards for those that want the LG Apps.. seemed like the best of both worlds. I will admit I did manually install a few of the left out LG apps like the Remote and Quick Memo.
OP this is solely on you, only you can figure out what will be your daily driver/ROM. With so many variables involved with Members, apps/usage so on....you have to just flash and test. Just because one has the same device does not mean you will have the same outcome or results.
Thread closed due to these kind of Threads, bring trolling and unneeded posting.
Merry Christmas.
usmanxhmed said:
Hi guys, kindly take my post serious, and give me honest opinions, let me explain my situation.
Like many of you, I have LG G2, International 802, i am confused whether to flash 4.4 Custom ROM (CM11 seems to be only relaible choice) or stay at stock 4.2.2 because phone is just a phone and all Apps work anyway.
Unlike most of you, i am from Pakistan, i purchased G2 brand new in Black, because its not launched officially here, which means i am under no warranty or unroot problems to get repairs etc. from company, so losing warranty is not an issue for me.
I am confused, whether to root, flash CM 11 or stay on stock and wait for official 4.4. I know even official 4.4 will look same as 4.2.2. Stock android look like Nexus is my preference, i like it, but reading so many people having troubles with custom ROMSs, and the difficulty, makes me confused, either to stay as it is, or make a move and flash CM11.
My past experience of flashing ROMs, was when i had back up Xperia 10 mini, i use to flash CM9 on it easily and use to go back on stock as well, which android 2.1 for it.
Guys kindly with your experience, should i go for flashing, install CWM recovery, official semi touch one and flash CM11 in normal way, or should i stay satisfied as i am today? will flashing CM11 and its bugs going to ruin my daily use?
Also tell me, i read intensively how to come back to stock, but many people having trouble in that as well?
Should i make a move or should i sit idle? I know many users like me, must confused like me, your help can be fruitful for us?
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Reasons to unlock Bootloader?

OK, so I bought an Xperia Z Ultra a few days ago, and I ensured it was a unlockable device, after owning all my previous Xperia phones unlocked.
The main reason I was unlocking before on my previous Z, S and T was because battery savings, meaning custom kernel undervolting, and several battery friendly moded stock kernel options. And of course, some easy rooting, mainly for changing the ugly high dpi the Z has, and have some real screen state, not big clunky icons, fonts and stuff on a 5" display.
I never been attracted to CM and or PAC for that matter either, because they break too many things to even consider them my daily drivers IMHO, and with the arrival of the Snapdragon 800 chipsets speed is never an issue, unlike before on weak handsets like S and X10 on which a custom rom did wonders for the performance.
On the Z Ultra, on the other hand, battery life is proving itself to be outstanding, way more than I expected it to be, as I was afraid the 3000mah battery wasn't gonna cut it due to screen to battery size ratio. Standard dpi is also excellent, alongside kit kat performace. Also, having a quick look on the development section, there isn't too much going on, unlike the Z, I can't seem to find a completely stock kernel that has just undervolting and some recovery options, heck, I don't recall there being a stock based kernel at all.
So, what's your main reason for unlocking this precise device?
Also, how the battery life on stock rom compares to Google Play edition?
DrKrFfXx said:
OK, so I bought an Xperia Z Ultra a few days ago, and I ensured it was a unlockable device, after owning all my previous Xperia phones unlocked.
The main reason I was unlocking before on my previous Z, S and T was because battery savings, meaning custom kernel undervolting, and several battery friendly moded stock kernel options. And of course, some easy rooting, mainly for changing the ugly high dpi the Z has, and have some real screen state, not big clunky icons, fonts and stuff on a 5" display.
I never been attracted to CM and or PAC for that matter either, because they break too many things to even consider them my daily drivers IMHO, and with the arrival of the Snapdragon 800 chipsets speed is never an issue, unlike before on weak handsets like S and X10 on which a custom rom did wonders for the performance.
On the Z Ultra, on the other hand, battery life is proving itself to be outstanding, way more than I expected it to be, as I was afraid the 3000mah battery wasn't gonna cut it due to screen to battery size ratio. Standard dpi is also excellent, alongside kit kat performace. Also, having a quick look on the development section, there isn't too much going on, unlike the Z, I can't seem to find a completely stock kernel that has just undervolting and some recovery options, heck, I don't recall there being a stock based kernel at all.
So, what's your main reason for unlocking this precise device?
Also, how the battery life on stock rom compares to Google Play edition?
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The only need to unlock bootloader is to install the custom room set or custom kernel, but I'm like you and find the stock Sony experience ticks all the boxes I'm interested in. They've done a great job with the stock rom.
Guess the main appeal is for the gpe build.
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SpyderTracks said:
The only need to unlock bootloader is to install the custom room set or custom kernel, but I'm like you and find the stock Sony experience ticks all the boxes I'm interested in. They've done a great job with the stock rom.
Guess the main appeal is for the gpe build.
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its funny you guys are trying to get the gee rom and I'm trying to get away from it.
So, what's your main reason for unlocking this precise device?
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It makes rooting incredible easy. Are you on KitKat? Just flash Jackie's kernel and flash SuperSU. Done. I also like to change ROMs and environments once in awhile, so i typically flash between stock and the GPe ROM, which brings me to....
Also, how the battery life on stock rom compares to Google Play edition?
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It's quite good actually. The GPe ROM doesn't have Stamina, so you have to be a little careful with IM services and stuff like that, but it's not bad at all.
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its funny you guys are trying to get the gee rom and I'm trying to get away from it.
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That's the thing with "Nexus'" (Nexi?). Want a different ROM environment? Too bad. You're stuck with AOSP. Got the original Ultra? You got two environments to choose from. Stock Sony and AOSP, so when you get bored with one of them, you can easily swap. That's one thing that's scarying me away from the Nexus-line. And we also have the GPe version which means that the GPe will get 4.5/5.0 early, and we'll be able to just flash it (after some minor modifications).
I guess it's possible to get a Sony ROM running on the GPe version, but there aren't that many devs around here, so stuff like that will take a fair bit of time. Just hang in there though!
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It makes rooting incredible easy. Are you on KitKat? Just flash Jackie's kernel and flash SuperSU. Done. I also like to change ROMs and environments once in awhile, so i typically flash between stock and the GPe ROM, which brings me to....
It's quite good actually. The GPe ROM doesn't have Stamina, so you have to be a little careful with IM services and stuff like that, but it's not bad at all.
That's the thing with "Nexus'" (Nexi?). Want a different ROM environment? Too bad. You're stuck with AOSP. Got the original Ultra? You got two environments to choose from. Stock Sony and AOSP, so when you get bored with one of them, you can easily swap. That's one thing that's scarying me away from the Nexus-line. And we also have the GPe version which means that the GPe will get 4.5/5.0 early, and we'll be able to just flash it (after some minor modifications).
I guess it's possible to get a Sony ROM running on the GPe version, but there aren't that many devs around here, so stuff like that will take a fair bit of time. Just hang in there though!
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i more or less want the xperia apps and i've already bricked one gee trying to root so i won't be trying again until theres a dummy guide for myself. unfortunately googles choices for media suck and i feel like the xperia integration will work a lot better for me.
canarycny said:
i more or less want the xperia apps and i've already bricked one gee trying to root so i won't be trying again until theres a dummy guide for myself. unfortunately googles choices for media suck and i feel like the xperia integration will work a lot better for me.
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Well that's a lot easier. The Sony KitKat apps are all over the place her at XDA, so just find and install them. I did it myself when I ran the GPe ROM and it worked just fine. You may have to adjust the DPI, but that's not an issue.
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LordManhattan said:
Well that's a lot easier. The Sony KitKat apps are all over the place her at XDA, so just find and install them. I did it myself when I ran the GPe ROM and it worked just fine. You may have to adjust the DPI, but that's not an issue.
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Fair enough I've found a few and also a few that won't install I've looked for a stock camera apk and a few others I couldn't get to install without root.
I doubt the camera will work, but Album, Movies, Walkman and all those works fine (or so they should)
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LordManhattan said:
I doubt the camera will work, but Album, Movies, Walkman and all those works fine (or so they should)
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Yea couldn't find a camera apk but I do have the others but did have to find an older movies apk that would actually work. My situation is that I was looking forward to trying xperia out but also wanted the 6806 model but came across a great deal for the gpe and forgot that it wouldn't have xperia on it.
Hi all,
just jumped from my Mega 6.3 to ZU, and it's been ages I've had a sony device (Arc, I think ), but the price I found it at was just too good to pass.
Now, I've been reading the various threads about downgrading FW then up again, and so on...
I have to say I am usually not afraid of that stuff, but this time I've got really no waranty, and I'm too concerned about breaking something. I already officialy upgraded to KK.
So My question : unlocking the bootloader will make me lose the DRM keys, BUT will also allow me to bipass all the downgrade stuff and jump on custom KK roms? (of course, flashing custom reco and stuff first!)
I must say i do not care for the Bravia engine and others.
Thanks to let me know
Edit : probably LordManathan answered my question :
It makes rooting incredible easy. Are you on KitKat? Just flash Jackie's kernel and flash SuperSU. Done. I also like to change ROMs and environments once in awhile, so i typically flash between stock and the GPe ROM, which brings me to....
That's fine then?
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Hi all,
just jumped from my Mega 6.3 to ZU, and it's been ages I've had a sony device (Arc, I think ), but the price I found it at was just too good to pass.
Now, I've been reading the various threads about downgrading FW then up again, and so on...
I have to say I am usually not afraid of that stuff, but this time I've got really no waranty, and I'm too concerned about breaking something. I already officialy upgraded to KK.
So My question : unlocking the bootloader will make me lose the DRM keys, BUT will also allow me to bipass all the downgrade stuff and jump on custom KK roms? (of course, flashing custom reco and stuff first!)
I must say i do not care for the Bravia engine and others.
Thanks to let me know
Edit : probably LordManathan answered my question :
It makes rooting incredible easy. Are you on KitKat? Just flash Jackie's kernel and flash SuperSU. Done. I also like to change ROMs and environments once in awhile, so i typically flash between stock and the GPe ROM, which brings me to....
That's fine then?
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I guess you still need to downgrade and root to backup TA partition before you unlock the bootloader and flash jackie's kernel.
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I guess you still need to downgrade and root to backup TA partition before you unlock the bootloader and flash jackie's kernel.
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Haha, yeah... I was hoping I wouldn't have to really care about the TA partition!
Aside from losing DRM keys, is there any other issue?
Thanks for you quick answer!
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I kept reading (yes I do read the forums a lot before and after a question, haha!) and I read that unlocking the bootloader on an official KK rom will not break x-reality ? Is that correct?
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Haha, yeah... I was hoping I wouldn't have to really care about the TA partition!
Aside from losing DRM keys, is there any other issue?
Thanks for you quick answer!
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I kept reading (yes I do read the forums a lot before and after a question, haha!) and I read that unlocking the bootloader on an official KK rom will not break x-reality ? Is that correct?
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There should not be any other issue. Personally I have never had good experiences with rooting and installing custom kernels/roms. Stock ROM's are always best (just disable bloatware apps, no need to delete them).
X-reality is not disabled on KK after unlocking. But you can always add xpose modules custom bravia etc after rooting.
The only reason that I might root my ZU is for 'SD card functionality' which I hope Sony re-enable in a future update.
Here sign this 'Petitioning Sony Mobile'
https://www.change.org/petitions/so...ed-to-all-our-sony-phones-via-software-update
manigma said:
There should not be any other issue. Personally I have never had good experiences with rooting and installing custom kernels/roms. Stock ROM's are always best (just disable bloatware apps, no need to delete them).
X-reality is not disabled on KK after unlocking. But you can always add xpose modules custom bravia etc after rooting.
The only reason that I might root my ZU is for 'SD card functionality' which I hope Sony re-enable in a future update.
Here sign this 'Petitioning Sony Mobile'
https://www.change.org/petitions/so...ed-to-all-our-sony-phones-via-software-update
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Cool.
I'll also keep it stock for a week or so, to enjoy it properly, then the flashing finger will start to hitch again
Will take it from here, thanks for taking the time to answer to me
kipue said:
Cool.
I'll also keep it stock for a week or so, to enjoy it properly, then the flashing finger will start to hitch again
Will take it from here, thanks for taking the time to answer to me
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If you aren't worried about the DRM keys the I would just unlock the BL. The DRM keys are needed for netflix and track ID and maybe some other things?
blueether said:
If you aren't worried about the DRM keys the I would just unlock the BL. The DRM keys are needed for netflix and track ID and maybe some other things?
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My research pointed to that too, those DRM keys are actually pretty limited in scope (for me).
The biggest thing to lose is the Bravia engine, since that affects the phone in a more general way. But as I read, if unlocking the bootloader when on official Kitkat, the keys are no longer affected.
Well, I guess better safe than sorry, and I'll try to backup the TA partition anyway ^^
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The biggest thing to lose is the Bravia engine
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Are you sure? I would think that your warranty is the most important thing to keep intact, no? Let's say you just drop backing up the TA partition and you run into some hardware issues that can't be fixed by flashing. What do you do? Throw it into the nearest river? Pay $XXX to fix it? Or, just restore the backup?
It's pretty easy and straight forward. Downgrade to 532, root, backup TA, update to 681 (KitKat) again, and do whatever you want.
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Are you sure? I would think that your warranty is the most important thing to keep intact, no? Let's say you just drop backing up the TA partition and you run into some hardware issues that can't be fixed by flashing. What do you do? Throw it into the nearest river? Pay $XXX to fix it? Or, just restore the backup?
It's pretty easy and straight forward. Downgrade to 532, root, backup TA, update to 681 (KitKat) again, and do whatever you want.
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Yep, you are right of course, but this device I've got has no waranty. Well, gray market waranty at any rate where I guess they don't check the bootloader state, and any breakage will have to be paid at full price.
I will do the backup, just to be sure, as I concluded in my post
Thanks for all the advice!
kipue said:
Yep, you are right of course, but this device I've got has no waranty. Well, gray market waranty at any rate where I guess they don't check the bootloader state, and any breakage will have to be paid at full price.
I will do the backup, just to be sure, as I concluded in my post
Thanks for all the advice!
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Ahh, I see. Well, I guess you're free to do whatever you feel like then
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Some basic ROM feedback + MODs suggestion (D802)

I have been jumping between a few ROMs for a period of time now and finally decided to stick with one which I think is stable, fast and gives the best battery life by far. I admit I haven't tried all of the ROMs out there, also people have different set ups and use their phone differently. So please take what I say as a recommendation only, and I mainly wish to share some of my experience as I know how frustrating it can be to choose a ROM out of so many choices. At the end I also want to share the MODs I have been using and how I have personalized my device, hopefully will help someone out there.
Note: I didn't use the same MOD for all ROMs! See more explanation below.
ROM
Just to make it clear, I wipe all before flashing a new ROM. I don't use any kind of backup software, yes that is right I don't, call me insane But the result of poor battery life or restart/FC should not be caused by these factors. I also install about the same app back (give a take a couple which I don't use often) after a flash. I also use the same set up for all my ROMs e.g. Auto brightness, screen on time and etc.
STOCK
I have been on stock LG G2 ROM for about 5 months I think, there are some nice features and I have to say it is probably the most stable ROM out there.
But for me, I experienced a bit of lag here and there.
I think many out there will agree with me, when I say the ROM doesn't have the best UI design. I would recommend installing Xposed Installer (xda) and G2 Xposed (play store) and make some modifications yourself.
The battery is ok, last a day for me and ends up with 30% on a good day (often below 15%).
The biggest feature for me is the knock code to unlock device, I do miss it.
I didn't compare but the Camera app is better than Google Camera (opinion, didn't test).
CloudyG3 v1.3
Used this ROM for about a month, stable enough for daily driver.
Some lags when using the phone in general. Animation slow down is the main reason I decided to go with another ROM.
UI looks much nicer than G2 since it is based on G3.
Can use G3 TweaksBox to tweak UI like you can with G2 Xposed, but most features will require you to pay. Which I did, but don't think it is worth the money. Most changes require you to reboot to see effect and it is buggy.
Again knock code is a plus, better than stock ROM I think.
Slightly better battery than Stock but not much better, I would say about the same. Been using the same MODs since.
Camera is also pretty good, on par with STOCK (opinion, didn't test).
Mahdi-ROM 09/20
This is a very popular recommendation, rated the most stable ROM. But it is the opposite for me, phone would restart and FC.
Some bugs listed on ROM page. This doesn't affect me, but may affect some of you.
Very similar to CM11, a lot of options to tweak, too much in my opinion.
Battery life about same as stock, again the ROM wasn't stable enough for me so can't possibly have amazing battery life. Same MODs as I have now.
No knock code.
ParanoidAndroid 06/28
This is my current ROM, glad I decided to try it.
Very stable, haven't had a single FC or restart yet and I have been on it for weeks.
This is the fastest ROM, I don't notice any animation slow down at all. Ok a few times with the keyboard I am using but pretty sure it is the keyboard app.
Amazing battery life. e.g. 10 hours since unplugged, 2 hour screen on, 76% left.
Has double tab to wake, but no Knock code
Good amount of built-in customization
MODs + app suggestions
Twilight app (or something similar), for less harsh light on the eye when reading at night.
Google Now Launcher + Xposed GEL Settings, I like the Google Now being included in the launcher itself.
LiOn Tamer (AKA Unbounded) to stop wake-locks, just install and then done no set up require.
Silence app, which turns phone silent for those who work at from 9am - 5pm.
Calendar + Calendar Mute app which turn phone silent for those who are at University with odd lecture times.
Hello there, I have been looking for a thread like this for a while, how do you think they compare to other major roms like Vanir, Eos etc in Speed/ performance etc??
are you running any custom kernels? Art or Dalvik?
sadinoide said:
Hello there, I have been looking for a thread like this for a while, how do you think they compare to other major roms like Vanir, Eos etc in Speed/ performance etc??
are you running any custom kernels? Art or Dalvik?
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Unfortunately I haven't tried all the ROMs, so can't give you any suggestion on them.
As for custom kernels and ART, I have been using whatever comes with the ROMs. The result on PA is so good (7.5 hours screen on time with 22% battery left), I never found myself in the situation of needing to tweak anything. Kernel is generally my last choice, because it is a lot of trial and error. The last I tried ART was when it was still in beta, I should really give it a go now it is more stable.
Can you provide a link to the 26/8 PA rom? Can't seem to find it in the PA thread cos there are only other dated roms. Sorry for being a noob cos I've never flashed aosp on my g2. Or which release did you use or would recommend?
Dont you miss the Qslide apps on stock roms? or the Qremote? (I use it all the time)
and thanks for sharing the expirience... I myself decided only to root the phone in the case that it won't be getting Android 5.0
Blackherted said:
Dont you miss the Qslide apps on stock roms? or the Qremote? (I use it all the time)
and thanks for sharing the expirience... I myself decided only to root the phone in the case that it won't be getting Android 5.0
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When I first switched to AOSP roms I missed them a lot. Fortunately there is a mod for the quick remote but none for Qslide. Either way you'll find yourself not needing Qslide after some time.
mab71 said:
Can you provide a link to the 26/8 PA rom? Can't seem to find it in the PA thread cos there are only other dated roms. Sorry for being a noob cos I've never flashed aosp on my g2. Or which release did you use or would recommend?
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I think you may have missed read it, I am still using 28/6 PA rom. Basically fhe latest version right now.
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Blackherted said:
Dont you miss the Qslide apps on stock roms? or the Qremote? (I use it all the time)
and thanks for sharing the expirience... I myself decided only to root the phone in the case that it won't be getting Android 5.0
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I tried Qslide on stock, then never used it again. For me spliting the screen in half means i can't see much of anything. I think it might be useful when you get used to it, but I never really got used to it.
I never used Qremote because I don't own anything which requires a remote.
Sorry that I can't be more helpful.
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lavafire said:
I have been jumping between a few ROMs for a period of time now and finally decided to stick with one which I think is stable, fast and gives the best battery life by far. I admit I haven't tried all of the ROMs out there, also people have different set ups and use their phone differently. So please take what I say as a recommendation only, and I mainly wish to share some of my experience as I know how frustrating it can be to choose a ROM out of so many choices. At the end I also want to share the MODs I have been using and how I have personalized my device, hopefully will help someone out there.
Note: I didn't use the same MOD for all ROMs! See more explanation below.
ROM
Just to make it clear, I wipe all before flashing a new ROM. I don't use any kind of backup software, yes that is right I don't, call me insane But the result of poor battery life or restart/FC should not be caused by these factors. I also install about the same app back (give a take a couple which I don't use often) after a flash. I also use the same set up for all my ROMs e.g. Auto brightness, screen on time and etc.
STOCK
I have been on stock LG G2 ROM for about 5 months I think, there are some nice features and I have to say it is probably the most stable ROM out there.
But for me, I experienced a bit of lag here and there.
I think many out there will agree with me, when I say the ROM doesn't have the best UI design. I would recommend installing Xposed Installer (xda) and G2 Xposed (play store) and make some modifications yourself.
The battery is ok, last a day for me and ends up with 30% on a good day (often below 15%).
The biggest feature for me is the knock code to unlock device, I do miss it.
I didn't compare but the Camera app is better than Google Camera (opinion, didn't test).
CloudyG3 v1.3
Used this ROM for about a month, stable enough for daily driver.
Some lags when using the phone in general. Animation slow down is the main reason I decided to go with another ROM.
UI looks much nicer than G2 since it is based on G3.
Can use G3 TweaksBox to tweak UI like you can with G2 Xposed, but most features will require you to pay. Which I did, but don't think it is worth the money. Most changes require you to reboot to see effect and it is buggy.
Again knock code is a plus, better than stock ROM I think.
Slightly better battery than Stock but not much better, I would say about the same. Been using the same MODs since.
Camera is also pretty good, on par with STOCK (opinion, didn't test).
Mahdi-ROM 09/20
This is a very popular recommendation, rated the most stable ROM. But it is the opposite for me, phone would restart and FC.
Some bugs listed on ROM page. This doesn't affect me, but may affect some of you.
Very similar to CM11, a lot of options to tweak, too much in my opinion.
Battery life about same as stock, again the ROM wasn't stable enough for me so can't possibly have amazing battery life. Same MODs as I have now.
No knock code.
ParanoidAndroid 06/28
This is my current ROM, glad I decided to try it.
Very stable, haven't had a single FC or restart yet and I have been on it for weeks.
This is the fastest ROM, I don't notice any animation slow down at all. Ok a few times with the keyboard I am using but pretty sure it is the keyboard app.
Amazing battery life. e.g. 10 hours since unplugged, 2 hour screen on, 76% left.
Has double tab to wake, but no Knock code
Good amount of built-in customization
MODs + app suggestions
Twilight app (or something similar), for less harsh light on the eye when reading at night.
Google Now Launcher + Xposed GEL Settings, I like the Google Now being included in the launcher itself.
LiOn Tamer (AKA Unbounded) to stop wake-locks, just install and then done no set up require.
Silence app, which turns phone silent for those who work at from 9am - 5pm.
Calendar + Calendar Mute app which turn phone silent for those who are at University with odd lecture times.
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Can you help with the link for the PA of 28/6 please? Somehow I can't find it.
albsat said:
Can you help with the link for the PA of 28/6 please? Somehow I can't find it.
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Hmmm I see what you mean, I was unable to find the ROM through PA thread. I have uploaded the version i got, here's the link
I've tried all above except paranoid (and CM11)
I think it should be mentioned that photos quality on mahdi rom are horrible.
I tried other camera applications but the bad quality remained.
Is PA or CM11 like mahdi (camera quality)?
slowdyve said:
I've tried all above except paranoid (and CM11)
I think it should be mentioned that photos quality on mahdi rom are horrible.
I tried other camera applications but the bad quality remained.
Is PA or CM11 like mahdi (camera quality)?
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Unfortunately the camera on PA is also pretty disappointing, in my experience anything that is not based on stock ROMs has bad camera experience.
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I tried, pa, mahdi, plain.. All three gave some strange issue or reboot. I have been totally unlucky with asop roms in this phone. I had better experience with others, like nexus, s2 or note 2.
albsat said:
I tried, pa, mahdi, plain.. All three gave some strange issue or reboot. I have been totally unlucky with asop roms in this phone. I had better experience with others, like nexus, s2 or note 2.
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Did you try the version I mentioned? Link is on one of the replied on thr page before I think.
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lavafire said:
Did you try the version I mentioned? Link is on one of the replied on thr page before I think.
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Thanks man. I did try it. After restoring sms, the Android. process message kept popping up, and reinstalling from beginning was a bit too lazy by my side. There is a cm version based on stock kernel which looks promising for what I am looking for, so I am keeping an eye on this CM version. Thanks again.
lavafire said:
I think you may have missed read it, I am still using 28/6 PA rom. Basically fhe latest version right now.
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Nice write up! I used Mahdi, PA and CloudyG3 and agree with your comments. I'm currently running cloudyg3 and would like to add a few notes to those who are interested. Disabling all the animations does speed things up for me and the dev made the G3 Tweakbox features all free. PA is my second favorite ROM, super smooth and stable. If camera was better on PA, it would be my daily driver.
lavafire said:
Hmmm I see what you mean, I was unable to find the ROM through PA thread. I have uploaded the version i got, here's the link
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upload please the latest test build
goila said:
upload please the latest test build
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Wish I downloaded it before the link died, but people commented saying they are unstable so I didn't download it. But I think it should be released today (3rd Nov) on the PA thread.
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I'm really interested in trying the G3 rom. I've been using stock on this phone since I got it and I really love the built in features and stability. I've come from a long line of Nexus ownership and have a Nexus 7 2013 for AOSP support + latest updates.
I was really worried about the stability of the G3 port but feel a little more confident reading your review compared to other roms. Paranoid Android was always fun too, I just never tried it on my G2.
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I'm really interested in trying the G3 rom. I've been using stock on this phone since I got it and I really love the built in features and stability. I've come from a long line of Nexus ownership and have a Nexus 7 2013 for AOSP support + latest updates.
I was really worried about the stability of the G3 port but feel a little more confident reading your review compared to other roms. Paranoid Android was always fun too, I just never tried it on my G2.
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Yeah G3 Rom are very stable only some hiccups when you have too many apps open, apart from that everything is pretty good. Camera is normally the main selling point for most
Also I think going from stock -> G3 ROMs -> AOSP is a pretty good way going about it.
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AOSP vs. Stock...Post Your Thoughts/Experience, Plus a Quick How-To AOSP on vs985

This started as a PM to a member that seemed like it might be at least a little useful to others as well, so I'm putting it in a thread. The question asked was (heavily paraphrased): What works/what doesn't on AOSP vs. Stock? My answer can't possibly cover every positive/negative out there, so a thread might help those on the fence or just considering giving it a whirl. What I can do is help people that haven't flashed AOSP to take note of the quirks in actually getting one installed.
First, some tips on flashing an AOSP ROM to the VS985 G3.
I always wipe everything, including internal storage, but especially so when jumping between stock & AOSP. Then I install all software from my SD card. That's a personal preference, but I almost never have problems and attribute that to thorough wiping.
This is pretty basic, but if you've only flashed stock, you need to know that AOSP requires you to flash both the ROM itself and gapps. I'm using the TK Gapps Full package, for what that's worth.
Specific to our phone, if you value the QuickRemote app, you can get it for flashing and use on AOSP ROMs. See this thread.
You will probably want a better camera than the Google camera included with AOSP. To that end, I use the flashable MotoX camera port and accompanying gallery. See this thread for that camera. There are other cameras and I'm happy to post what people use in here if you supply links.
Lastly, some ROMs do a baseband check. Since 24B is somewhat new, chances are decent you'll be trying to flash an AOSP ROM that dislikes your modem, so you'll need to flash the 23C modem before you flash the ROM; otherwise it may thrown an error and refuse to install the ROM. After installing you can then flash back to 24B modem (which gets better signal for me). Here are the modems:
23C modem - https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934553732
24B modem - https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347773137
Everybody does things differently, but my process for installing is....
Install Process
0) Back up your photos/files. Back up your apps with Titanium Backup & move them to your SD card.
1) Wipe everything, including internal storage.
2) Install the ROM.
3) (optional) Install the Kernel of your choice. **
4) Install gapps.
5) Install camera (and gallery if you want).
6) Install QuickRemote.
7) Wipe cache/dalvic for good measure.
8) Boot up, log in, get everything set up.
9) (optional) Go back into TWRP and install the 24B Modem.
**It's usually worth it to check out the stock kernel first, then if you want to try others you can do so later on. IF it's later, personally, I always wipe cache/dalvic after flashing a kernel. I'm putting the step in there because if I already know the kernel and like it, or if I'm upgrading the ROM, I'll go ahead and install with the ROM.
Thoughts/Experience Comments
The only real thing I miss vs. stock is the camera. That said, there are good options out there, including the previously mentioned MotoX. Image quality seems to be near, if not quite all the way to, stock. It doesn't seem to want to save photos to SD though, so keep that in mind when you want to flash a different ROM - you'll need to get your photos off internal storage.
If you use a different camera and want to supply a link/links, please do so and I'll be happy to add them to the OP!
Aside from the camera, there has always been talk of slightly decreased signal. I have not found that to be the case; in fact, WiFi seems stronger. I do not use bluetooth at all, but have seen in the past that bluetooth has been an issue, depending on the ROM. You'll just need to read through ROM threads and find out whether that's an issue for you. I have zero functionality problems with anything.
Battery life is definitely better for me on AOSP. SkyDragon is superb for a stock ROM, but stock stuff on top of AOSP does cost some battery, even though SkyDragon does a superb job of minimizing that.
Truth be told, I prefer the AOSP interface to LG's. The main reason I usually stick with stock/go back to stock is the camera. The moto camera is close enough that I might stay with AOSP for a while, at least until LG updates stock again, then my crack-flash-addiction may take over.
FWIW, I am very happily using Orion ROM right now, along with the Nebula kernel and TK Gapps.
Please feel free to share your input on AOSP experience. Mine is not all-encompassing, and surely people have problems that I haven't run into. Also share your cameras - I'm always on the lookout for good options there too.
The only thing that keeps me coming back to stock (which I really don't care for) is that I feel like receiving SMS and MMS is delayed by a minute or more on AOSP.
I've been back and forth. And like you, I simply cannot do without Xcam. I've had some problems with the Moto cam freezing up. Xcam gives me top notch quality. And speaker quality on stock is much better with Dolby mod. Battery life is much better on AOSP. But I I find LG stock to be overall much more stable.
I agree with the OP's opinion about stock vs. ASOP. I was on CM 12.1 for a couple of weeks and I really enjoyed the fast boot times, better battery life and patched Stagefright security hole. I had some issues customizing the onscreen buttons where it wouldn't stick, depending on which daily you ran that week.
But I really missed the camera: stock is much better than any of the suggested substitutes, IMHO.
Amusingly, I'm back on stock again. My little affair with AOSP was, as it seems to ever be, relatively short lived. I really enjoy the interface, but things are just more smooth on SkyDragon. No amount of optimization can seem to overcome the proprietary driver capability on stock. I love AOSP, but can't seem to stick with it for very long. Oh, and the camera. Stock (again, proprietary driver issue) is just plain better.
On the plus side, I'm getting the same signal strength now on Stock and AOSP with the 24B modem. That disparity seems to be a thing of the past. I'm not completely done with AOSP and have a nandroid backup of both of them that I bounce between now, because why not? Orion is a heck of a ROM and but for the camera and very minor GUI lag on occasion, it's close to as good as stock.
The stock LG rom is really laggy for me, especially pulling down the notification shade. My two year old Moto X is much smoother then this LG. Battery life sucks on the X though.
PiousInquisitor said:
The stock LG rom is really laggy for me, especially pulling down the notification shade. My two year old Moto X is much smoother then this LG. Battery life sucks on the X though.
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Even on a custom ROM? Try SkyDragon 5.0 w/ SkyDragon Kernel 4.2. Do NOT install Xposed via the Aroma installer though. It's an older version and removes LG weather/circle case which used to be required for Xposed to function. You're much better off installing the new version of Xposed after the ROM if you want to use that.
I get no such lag on SkyDragon. On absolute stock from LG I did get some, but not with HolyAngel's great ROM & kernel. :good:
hokiealumnus said:
Even on a custom ROM? Try SkyDragon 5.0 w/ SkyDragon Kernel 4.2. Do NOT install Xposed via the Aroma installer though. It's an older version and removes LG weather/circle case which used to be required for Xposed to function. You're much better off installing the new version of Xposed after the ROM if you want to use that.
I get no such lag on SkyDragon. On absolute stock from LG I did get some, but not with HolyAngel's great ROM & kernel. :good:
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Thanks for the direct links. I was just digging through the last few pages looking for the 5.0 build. Ive been running Jasmine 8 and enjoying it but having some lag, same as stock. I ran the SD rom a while ago when it was on KK and didnt like it as much as Jas. Ill give it a try now. Switching roms on the G3 aint no thing right now as it isnt my primary device anymore. The SIM card slot died (used a sim adapter that ruined the pins) so im waiting to find someone with serious soldering skills to replace it.
Hey guys I am looking for a ROM for my girlfriend. What would you guys say is the best way to go for a blend of battery/speed/stability.
Stability is VERY important.. but if you guys say AOSP ROM I would loved for her to give that a shot.
Can any android phone run aosp? Or are there limitations on the hardware? I believe the Samsung device I have runs with CAF (based on the cm repos it uses) and I am not sure if its possible to run straight Google code or even if the kernel needs changes.
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musicfreak190 said:
Hey guys I am looking for a ROM for my girlfriend. What would you guys say is the best way to go for a blend of battery/speed/stability.
Stability is VERY important.. but if you guys say AOSP ROM I would loved for her to give that a shot.
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I would go with the previously linked SkyDragon ROM and Kernel. Orion (AOSP) is very stable, but even so, stock is always best when stability is a #1 priority. Battery might be slightly better on AOSP, but nothing to call home about.
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Can any android phone run aosp? Or are there limitations on the hardware? I believe the Samsung device I have runs with CAF (based on the cm repos it uses) and I am not sure if its possible to run straight Google code or even if the kernel needs changes.
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In theory, yes....but it is device dependent It requires a developer to put an AOSP ROM together for the specific device. It also requires a custom recovery (i.e. TWRP) to be able to flash the ROM.
For anyone following along with my minor flash-addiction saga, Orion just released a new update today, which of course I'm going to try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62503509&postcount=77
Edit - I really do hate it, but this just isn't as smooth as stock. Even tried messing with a different kernel without success. When even gmail isn't as smooth scrolling as it should be, that's a problem for me. Back to SkyDragon.
hokiealumnus said:
For anyone following along with my minor flash-addiction saga, Orion just released a new update today, which of course I'm going to try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62503509&postcount=77
Edit - I really do hate it, but this just isn't as smooth as stock. Even tried messing with a different kernel without success. When even gmail isn't as smooth scrolling as it should be, that's a problem for me. Back to SkyDragon.
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I am about to flash the new Orion to replace CM12.1. I have never liked "stock" android roms that come with phones. AOSP and CM have always been so much better/smoother for me. they occasionally have stability issues but nothing that is ever too difficult to fix. The other main issue I have with stock is customizability. I have the ZeroLemon 9000mAH battery and stock based roms just dont work well with it. They seem to think it is a normal battery and will stay at 1-3% battery for hours which causes the camera to not open and other "power-saving" features to turn on...
Now to a question, hokiealumnus, have you had any issues flashing Orion? I haven't tried the newest version yet but when I tried to flash the older versions in TWRP (latest) it would give me an binary-updater issue. I see in your thread you recommend flashing the 23C modem before flashing a ROM because it could cause issues, I didn't know about that so I will try it tonight when I get home but was wondering if you knew if Orion was one of the ROMs with that issue?
r3xx3r said:
I am about to flash the new Orion to replace CM12.1. I have never liked "stock" android roms that come with phones. AOSP and CM have always been so much better/smoother for me. they occasionally have stability issues but nothing that is ever too difficult to fix. The other main issue I have with stock is customizability. I have the ZeroLemon 9000mAH battery and stock based roms just dont work well with it. They seem to think it is a normal battery and will stay at 1-3% battery for hours which causes the camera to not open and other "power-saving" features to turn on...
Now to a question, hokiealumnus, have you had any issues flashing Orion? I haven't tried the newest version yet but when I tried to flash the older versions in TWRP (latest) it would give me an binary-updater issue. I see in your thread you recommend flashing the 23C modem before flashing a ROM because it could cause issues, I didn't know about that so I will try it tonight when I get home but was wondering if you knew if Orion was one of the ROMs with that issue?
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I've always been intrigued by the ZeroLemon battery, but it was just too large for me to take the plunge.
Anyway, yes, you are correct on why it is giving you a binary-updater error. It's checking the baseband version and when it doesn't see the 23C modem, it throws the error. If you flash the 23C modem you'll get the ROM installed no problem. You can later re-install the 24B modem without issue, which performs better for me than 23C does.
Orion isn't the only AOSP ROM to have that problem either, I had it on BrokenROM when I tried that one as well.
hokiealumnus said:
I've always been intrigued by the ZeroLemon battery, but it was just too large for me to take the plunge.
Anyway, yes, you are correct on why it is giving you a binary-updater error. It's checking the baseband version and when it doesn't see the 23C modem, it throws the error. If you flash the 23C modem you'll get the ROM installed no problem. You can later re-install the 24B modem without issue, which performs better for me than 23C does.
Orion isn't the only AOSP ROM to have that problem either, I had it on BrokenROM when I tried that one as well.
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any idea why roms care what modem the phone has?
I really enjoy the ZeroLemon, it is f-ing huge on the G3, and quite a bit more expensive than older phones. I had it for the Galaxy S4 and it was about half the price. But I really enjoy it, I charge my phone every night anyway (old habit), but it is really nice to not have to and I am a pretty heavy user so battery is really important to me. I won't buy a phone if I can't get a big battery like this and put in at least a 32GB microsd card. The best (and kinda worst) part about the zerolemons are the rugged case. It offers really great protection from drops, though it is not easy to take off
r3xx3r said:
any idea why roms care what modem the phone has?
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I think it's attempting to ensure a) the phone the ROM is being installed on is the right phone and b) there isn't a KK modem (12B) on the phone, which does not work at all with Lollipop. (Likewise, Lollipop modems do NOT work with the KK builds.)
hokiealumnus said:
I think it's attempting to ensure a) the phone the ROM is being installed on is the right phone and b) there isn't a KK modem (12B) on the phone, which does not work at all with Lollipop. (Likewise, Lollipop modems do NOT work with the KK builds.)
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that makes sense. so I just installed the latest Orion ROM and ran into a bad issue. have you had an issue with the Cellular Networks setting not enabling? I try to enable it in the Settings and it just turns itself off and I can only get 1X if that, I normally have LTE, i tried 23C and 24B modems and cleaned flashed twice. any suggestions?
r3xx3r said:
that makes sense. so I just installed the latest Orion ROM and ran into a bad issue. have you had an issue with the Cellular Networks setting not enabling? I try to enable it in the Settings and it just turns itself off and I can only get 1X if that, I normally have LTE, i tried 23C and 24B modems and cleaned flashed twice. any suggestions?
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Sorry to say I haven't had that issue, no. It takes more time on boot to acquire cell signal vs stock, but once it does it seems just as strong and 4G as stock.
If you haven't already, when clean flashing, do so by wiping internal storage too (and installing from SD Card). I find doing that when switching between stock and AOSP to be reliable. I mean, I regularly do that anyway, but especially when making that switch.
hokiealumnus said:
Sorry to say I haven't had that issue, no. It takes more time on boot to acquire cell signal vs stock, but once it does it seems just as strong and 4G as stock.
If you haven't already, when clean flashing, do so by wiping internal storage too (and installing from SD Card). I find doing that when switching between stock and AOSP to be reliable. I mean, I regularly do that anyway, but especially when making that switch.
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That was part of what I did initially. I always wipe system, cache, dalvik, data, and internal storage when switching ROMS
r3xx3r said:
that makes sense. so I just installed the latest Orion ROM and ran into a bad issue. have you had an issue with the Cellular Networks setting not enabling? I try to enable it in the Settings and it just turns itself off and I can only get 1X if that, I normally have LTE, i tried 23C and 24B modems and cleaned flashed twice. any suggestions?
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I recently switched from Jasmine 8.0 to Paranoidandroid. I liked the AOSP Rom for the most part but I had quite a few data network issues. My data kept dropping out and I either had to reboot or enable airplane mode and disable it. A couple of times it set airplane mode to on by itself. I did a clean flash but didn't help. Stock had been the most solid for me as pure basic functionality.
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100% stock seems to be the best.

So, I've tried every which rom out there for the nexus 6p and got tired of dealing with sub par battery life, random hangs (albeit occasionally, but precisely when I needed it to not lag) and other issues. I even tried having 100% stock but with custom recovery and systemless root. Somehow though they were nice for a while they started to slow down and act up after a while. Finally I decided to go back to stock. Fastbooted and flashed stock from Google servers and even locked the bootloader and unchecked "allow unlocking".
I can honestly say that ever since then I've had zero issues and battery life has been phenomenal. No random lags or freezes or drain.
Perhaps this is how google wants the device to be used and stock Android has something in our that works properly only on a 100% factory set software.
Yea I miss the ios style emojis and ad bocker but at least now I can be rest assured about ota updates and using the device in the way google intended and thus having the best experience??
Also I think xposed is slowing down marshmallow and giving it some issues after a while.
What do you guys think ?
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Using a Stock based ROM with root, Adblocker and some Bloatware removed works the best for me. I remember Xposed to be buggy since Android 5, this is why I never used it again. Flashing Updates is not a big deal if you know how to use fastboot and how to flash single parts of a factory image.
Same here dude I have had android phones since the g1 rooted so many. I even remember when Franco was starting out lol. But with the nexus 6p I feel stock is the best experience I have tried a few ROMs but stock is great for this device... Don't get me wrong I feel I need to sometimes try a rom but I don't as it's a hassle now. 100% stock here.
I'm a happy custom rom flasher! Rocking with Chroma for now & like Sinless .. XDA Development for the win!
I'm using Pure Nexus with no issues whatsoever. It's essentially the stock ROM with a few goodies added.
That's where I'm at too. Tethering works, Android pay works, I have no problems with battery. Couldn't be better. I do miss some of the root/ROM features like center clock, different pictures on lock and home, double tap to wake and sleep though
Pure nexus works for me. But yea each phone will be a little different.
Agreed.. I buy nexus so I DON'T have to root to get that experience.
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Absolutely not my experience. Used the phone about one month with stock ROM and flashed Chroma ROM and Franco's kernel then. First thing I noticed was the device running much cooler!! Not a single problem here...
Hmmm pure nexus with ak gives you much better performance and battery than stock.... On screwd at the moment. Also very good
Stock is stock the way the device was intended to be used. Any changes will come from the source, "customize" someone else's work lol..... Riiiiighhhht
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Cleva1 said:
Stock is stock the way the device was intended to be used. Any changes will come from the source, "customize" someone else's work lol..... Riiiiighhhht
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To what are you referring? Your post doesn't make much sense. Not saying that to be rude, just trying to understand what you're saying.
androidbuff123 said:
Finally I decided to go back to stock. Fastbooted and flashed stock from Google servers and even locked the bootloader and unchecked "allow unlocking".
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If you are happy with pure stock, that's great. May I suggest unlocking that bootloader though. I've read about a couple guys where an OTA failed for whatever reason and the phone will not boot. With a locked bootloader, you have no hope of fixing it.
mikexda said:
If you are happy with pure stock, that's great. May I suggest unlocking that bootloader though. I've read about a couple guys where an OTA failed for whatever reason and the phone will not boot. With a locked bootloader, you have no hope of fixing it.
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I second this.
Battery for me has been the same. Also that white background settings UI I hate, black background just looks so much better
Opinion I know but it's an option is lose without root
Kinda Agree.. I'm on Chroma's Rom and not rooted. I like Chroma's subtle additional settings and stock kernel plus the Phone runs great. I will only load roms that use stock kernel because of lag and additional rom anomalies that happen when i need to do something...Ugh!
Choose your apps carefully, is my advice.
If you want to use facebook/messenger. Go for tinfoil or something like that instead. Also, disable the google apps you don't use. Maps can also be done with the browser and is one of the primary battery drains for example. Just like i noticed that since i disabled chrome and went for a chromium browser, battery life has gone up! Same with swiftkey instead of google keyboard, ecspecially with a nice black skin.
And yeah, use the drawer and dock for shortcuts, don't clog your homescreen with icons and widgets. That saves memory and thus battery power.
The thing i don't get though, is that with my z1 on 4.4.4 i could easily get 3 days with 5/6 hours screen on time. I really have to do my best to get that on my 6p. Even though the battery is 500 mah larger!
mikexda said:
If you are happy with pure stock, that's great. May I suggest unlocking that bootloader though. I've read about a couple guys where an OTA failed for whatever reason and the phone will not boot. With a locked bootloader, you have no hope of fixing it.
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Thanks for the tip. That makes sense. Perhaps when ota update comes in and updates the factory recovery, it needs the "allow unlock" button checked.
Maybe that's why it was checked by default after factory reset.
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after messing with my custom build i ended up flashing stock, rooted and added clear all recents to the systemui apk
thats all i need

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