I have been jumping between a few ROMs for a period of time now and finally decided to stick with one which I think is stable, fast and gives the best battery life by far. I admit I haven't tried all of the ROMs out there, also people have different set ups and use their phone differently. So please take what I say as a recommendation only, and I mainly wish to share some of my experience as I know how frustrating it can be to choose a ROM out of so many choices. At the end I also want to share the MODs I have been using and how I have personalized my device, hopefully will help someone out there.
Note: I didn't use the same MOD for all ROMs! See more explanation below.
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Just to make it clear, I wipe all before flashing a new ROM. I don't use any kind of backup software, yes that is right I don't, call me insane But the result of poor battery life or restart/FC should not be caused by these factors. I also install about the same app back (give a take a couple which I don't use often) after a flash. I also use the same set up for all my ROMs e.g. Auto brightness, screen on time and etc.
STOCK
I have been on stock LG G2 ROM for about 5 months I think, there are some nice features and I have to say it is probably the most stable ROM out there.
But for me, I experienced a bit of lag here and there.
I think many out there will agree with me, when I say the ROM doesn't have the best UI design. I would recommend installing Xposed Installer (xda) and G2 Xposed (play store) and make some modifications yourself.
The battery is ok, last a day for me and ends up with 30% on a good day (often below 15%).
The biggest feature for me is the knock code to unlock device, I do miss it.
I didn't compare but the Camera app is better than Google Camera (opinion, didn't test).
CloudyG3 v1.3
Used this ROM for about a month, stable enough for daily driver.
Some lags when using the phone in general. Animation slow down is the main reason I decided to go with another ROM.
UI looks much nicer than G2 since it is based on G3.
Can use G3 TweaksBox to tweak UI like you can with G2 Xposed, but most features will require you to pay. Which I did, but don't think it is worth the money. Most changes require you to reboot to see effect and it is buggy.
Again knock code is a plus, better than stock ROM I think.
Slightly better battery than Stock but not much better, I would say about the same. Been using the same MODs since.
Camera is also pretty good, on par with STOCK (opinion, didn't test).
Mahdi-ROM 09/20
This is a very popular recommendation, rated the most stable ROM. But it is the opposite for me, phone would restart and FC.
Some bugs listed on ROM page. This doesn't affect me, but may affect some of you.
Very similar to CM11, a lot of options to tweak, too much in my opinion.
Battery life about same as stock, again the ROM wasn't stable enough for me so can't possibly have amazing battery life. Same MODs as I have now.
No knock code.
ParanoidAndroid 06/28
This is my current ROM, glad I decided to try it.
Very stable, haven't had a single FC or restart yet and I have been on it for weeks.
This is the fastest ROM, I don't notice any animation slow down at all. Ok a few times with the keyboard I am using but pretty sure it is the keyboard app.
Amazing battery life. e.g. 10 hours since unplugged, 2 hour screen on, 76% left.
Has double tab to wake, but no Knock code
Good amount of built-in customization
MODs + app suggestions
Twilight app (or something similar), for less harsh light on the eye when reading at night.
Google Now Launcher + Xposed GEL Settings, I like the Google Now being included in the launcher itself.
LiOn Tamer (AKA Unbounded) to stop wake-locks, just install and then done no set up require.
Silence app, which turns phone silent for those who work at from 9am - 5pm.
Calendar + Calendar Mute app which turn phone silent for those who are at University with odd lecture times.
Hello there, I have been looking for a thread like this for a while, how do you think they compare to other major roms like Vanir, Eos etc in Speed/ performance etc??
are you running any custom kernels? Art or Dalvik?
sadinoide said:
Hello there, I have been looking for a thread like this for a while, how do you think they compare to other major roms like Vanir, Eos etc in Speed/ performance etc??
are you running any custom kernels? Art or Dalvik?
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Unfortunately I haven't tried all the ROMs, so can't give you any suggestion on them.
As for custom kernels and ART, I have been using whatever comes with the ROMs. The result on PA is so good (7.5 hours screen on time with 22% battery left), I never found myself in the situation of needing to tweak anything. Kernel is generally my last choice, because it is a lot of trial and error. The last I tried ART was when it was still in beta, I should really give it a go now it is more stable.
Can you provide a link to the 26/8 PA rom? Can't seem to find it in the PA thread cos there are only other dated roms. Sorry for being a noob cos I've never flashed aosp on my g2. Or which release did you use or would recommend?
Dont you miss the Qslide apps on stock roms? or the Qremote? (I use it all the time)
and thanks for sharing the expirience... I myself decided only to root the phone in the case that it won't be getting Android 5.0
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Dont you miss the Qslide apps on stock roms? or the Qremote? (I use it all the time)
and thanks for sharing the expirience... I myself decided only to root the phone in the case that it won't be getting Android 5.0
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When I first switched to AOSP roms I missed them a lot. Fortunately there is a mod for the quick remote but none for Qslide. Either way you'll find yourself not needing Qslide after some time.
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Can you provide a link to the 26/8 PA rom? Can't seem to find it in the PA thread cos there are only other dated roms. Sorry for being a noob cos I've never flashed aosp on my g2. Or which release did you use or would recommend?
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I think you may have missed read it, I am still using 28/6 PA rom. Basically fhe latest version right now.
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Blackherted said:
Dont you miss the Qslide apps on stock roms? or the Qremote? (I use it all the time)
and thanks for sharing the expirience... I myself decided only to root the phone in the case that it won't be getting Android 5.0
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I tried Qslide on stock, then never used it again. For me spliting the screen in half means i can't see much of anything. I think it might be useful when you get used to it, but I never really got used to it.
I never used Qremote because I don't own anything which requires a remote.
Sorry that I can't be more helpful.
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lavafire said:
I have been jumping between a few ROMs for a period of time now and finally decided to stick with one which I think is stable, fast and gives the best battery life by far. I admit I haven't tried all of the ROMs out there, also people have different set ups and use their phone differently. So please take what I say as a recommendation only, and I mainly wish to share some of my experience as I know how frustrating it can be to choose a ROM out of so many choices. At the end I also want to share the MODs I have been using and how I have personalized my device, hopefully will help someone out there.
Note: I didn't use the same MOD for all ROMs! See more explanation below.
ROM
Just to make it clear, I wipe all before flashing a new ROM. I don't use any kind of backup software, yes that is right I don't, call me insane But the result of poor battery life or restart/FC should not be caused by these factors. I also install about the same app back (give a take a couple which I don't use often) after a flash. I also use the same set up for all my ROMs e.g. Auto brightness, screen on time and etc.
STOCK
I have been on stock LG G2 ROM for about 5 months I think, there are some nice features and I have to say it is probably the most stable ROM out there.
But for me, I experienced a bit of lag here and there.
I think many out there will agree with me, when I say the ROM doesn't have the best UI design. I would recommend installing Xposed Installer (xda) and G2 Xposed (play store) and make some modifications yourself.
The battery is ok, last a day for me and ends up with 30% on a good day (often below 15%).
The biggest feature for me is the knock code to unlock device, I do miss it.
I didn't compare but the Camera app is better than Google Camera (opinion, didn't test).
CloudyG3 v1.3
Used this ROM for about a month, stable enough for daily driver.
Some lags when using the phone in general. Animation slow down is the main reason I decided to go with another ROM.
UI looks much nicer than G2 since it is based on G3.
Can use G3 TweaksBox to tweak UI like you can with G2 Xposed, but most features will require you to pay. Which I did, but don't think it is worth the money. Most changes require you to reboot to see effect and it is buggy.
Again knock code is a plus, better than stock ROM I think.
Slightly better battery than Stock but not much better, I would say about the same. Been using the same MODs since.
Camera is also pretty good, on par with STOCK (opinion, didn't test).
Mahdi-ROM 09/20
This is a very popular recommendation, rated the most stable ROM. But it is the opposite for me, phone would restart and FC.
Some bugs listed on ROM page. This doesn't affect me, but may affect some of you.
Very similar to CM11, a lot of options to tweak, too much in my opinion.
Battery life about same as stock, again the ROM wasn't stable enough for me so can't possibly have amazing battery life. Same MODs as I have now.
No knock code.
ParanoidAndroid 06/28
This is my current ROM, glad I decided to try it.
Very stable, haven't had a single FC or restart yet and I have been on it for weeks.
This is the fastest ROM, I don't notice any animation slow down at all. Ok a few times with the keyboard I am using but pretty sure it is the keyboard app.
Amazing battery life. e.g. 10 hours since unplugged, 2 hour screen on, 76% left.
Has double tab to wake, but no Knock code
Good amount of built-in customization
MODs + app suggestions
Twilight app (or something similar), for less harsh light on the eye when reading at night.
Google Now Launcher + Xposed GEL Settings, I like the Google Now being included in the launcher itself.
LiOn Tamer (AKA Unbounded) to stop wake-locks, just install and then done no set up require.
Silence app, which turns phone silent for those who work at from 9am - 5pm.
Calendar + Calendar Mute app which turn phone silent for those who are at University with odd lecture times.
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Can you help with the link for the PA of 28/6 please? Somehow I can't find it.
albsat said:
Can you help with the link for the PA of 28/6 please? Somehow I can't find it.
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Hmmm I see what you mean, I was unable to find the ROM through PA thread. I have uploaded the version i got, here's the link
I've tried all above except paranoid (and CM11)
I think it should be mentioned that photos quality on mahdi rom are horrible.
I tried other camera applications but the bad quality remained.
Is PA or CM11 like mahdi (camera quality)?
slowdyve said:
I've tried all above except paranoid (and CM11)
I think it should be mentioned that photos quality on mahdi rom are horrible.
I tried other camera applications but the bad quality remained.
Is PA or CM11 like mahdi (camera quality)?
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Unfortunately the camera on PA is also pretty disappointing, in my experience anything that is not based on stock ROMs has bad camera experience.
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I tried, pa, mahdi, plain.. All three gave some strange issue or reboot. I have been totally unlucky with asop roms in this phone. I had better experience with others, like nexus, s2 or note 2.
albsat said:
I tried, pa, mahdi, plain.. All three gave some strange issue or reboot. I have been totally unlucky with asop roms in this phone. I had better experience with others, like nexus, s2 or note 2.
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Did you try the version I mentioned? Link is on one of the replied on thr page before I think.
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lavafire said:
Did you try the version I mentioned? Link is on one of the replied on thr page before I think.
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Thanks man. I did try it. After restoring sms, the Android. process message kept popping up, and reinstalling from beginning was a bit too lazy by my side. There is a cm version based on stock kernel which looks promising for what I am looking for, so I am keeping an eye on this CM version. Thanks again.
lavafire said:
I think you may have missed read it, I am still using 28/6 PA rom. Basically fhe latest version right now.
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Nice write up! I used Mahdi, PA and CloudyG3 and agree with your comments. I'm currently running cloudyg3 and would like to add a few notes to those who are interested. Disabling all the animations does speed things up for me and the dev made the G3 Tweakbox features all free. PA is my second favorite ROM, super smooth and stable. If camera was better on PA, it would be my daily driver.
lavafire said:
Hmmm I see what you mean, I was unable to find the ROM through PA thread. I have uploaded the version i got, here's the link
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upload please the latest test build
goila said:
upload please the latest test build
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Wish I downloaded it before the link died, but people commented saying they are unstable so I didn't download it. But I think it should be released today (3rd Nov) on the PA thread.
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I'm really interested in trying the G3 rom. I've been using stock on this phone since I got it and I really love the built in features and stability. I've come from a long line of Nexus ownership and have a Nexus 7 2013 for AOSP support + latest updates.
I was really worried about the stability of the G3 port but feel a little more confident reading your review compared to other roms. Paranoid Android was always fun too, I just never tried it on my G2.
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I'm really interested in trying the G3 rom. I've been using stock on this phone since I got it and I really love the built in features and stability. I've come from a long line of Nexus ownership and have a Nexus 7 2013 for AOSP support + latest updates.
I was really worried about the stability of the G3 port but feel a little more confident reading your review compared to other roms. Paranoid Android was always fun too, I just never tried it on my G2.
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Yeah G3 Rom are very stable only some hiccups when you have too many apps open, apart from that everything is pretty good. Camera is normally the main selling point for most
Also I think going from stock -> G3 ROMs -> AOSP is a pretty good way going about it.
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Hi, I have been asleep for a while now, so I was not watching the scene on 4.0 ICS recently. Now when I got my phone from second repair in last two months, I have noticed plenty of 4.0.3 ROMs, that seems to be more or less stable, with and without Samsung apps and so on.
Because it would take too long to check all of the roms and keep flashing reflashing modding, and testing, I got little tired of that now, and I dont have time to start studying how to cook my own ROM and do it. So I would like to ask you guys for help.
I am looking for some ICS ROM that would be as clean and stable as possible these days, which means, no samsung apps, no extra features, just clean android as close to stock from Nexus phones as possible. Dev should instead of adding new features focus on making the ROM as stable as possible.
Thanks for suggestions, as my signature says I am now on Simplistic rom, which is pretty good, but just wondering if there is anything even closer to what I am looking for you might see somewhere. Thanks for any suggestions
Official out in a few weeks... wait
Or flash one of many beta roms but may have a few bugs
And search ?!!?!?!? All your answers are already out there
I recently moved from Gingerbread 2.3.6 to AndyX Rom v5.3 which is based on Android 4.0.3 [XXLB].
Very good.....stable....fast...and good battery backup. You can give it a shot.
Official from samsung will contain samsung apps+touchwiz, which I hate, and same does Andy's rom, I have already tried his 6.0 version.
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Did a nandroid of good old Hyperdroid. Im using andy's 6.0 version. Froze all the samsung bloatware and using the cm9 launcher. Been pretty smooth, widget locker runs like ass though so just sticking with Face Unlock for now.
Edit: Just needed to update Widget Locker. Working Fine now
Looks like you are already on a good rom. There are no stable roms yet.
I have tried almost all of them. I liked cm9 the most. Looks like it will be a rom which can be used right out of the box. But lacks some features since it is only experimental.
Wait for a couple of weeks, then you should have many stable roms to try out. Or in a month, or think we will have proper cm9
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I'm currently on XXLPH and its been awesome, stock rom of course but i got rid of all the sammy apps and so far so good
Is with that one the vibration working for ringtones? On simplicity LP6 there are all vibrations except for ringtones... which is driving me nuts when using Instant messengers, where I dont want to miss anything, but tone is ridiculously annoying...
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Edit: did anyone found out way how to switch off the phone waiting for second press of home button? it makes the phone feels lazy, when it waits like 500ms for second press, instead of immediate action.
hi there,
I'm using Westcrips LPH resurrection ROM remix V9.3... and really wow ! I haven't had any FC's or i haven't seen any crashes or something like that.. ? Its really weird because Android 4 is still under development... but this ROM is really ready for daily use !
Vibration with ringtone is within this ROM, You could delete the Google apps if you want bu using root explorer, The only thing that I've noticed is that the vibration don't works with notifications..
Ive already resolved that problem by downloading an app called: Sound Manager. And change the settings under 'Notifications' to Vibrate whenever possible.. And it works..
You should try that one
Zheiko said:
SNIP!
I am looking for some ICS ROM that would be as clean and stable as possible these days, which means, no samsung apps, no extra features, just clean android as close to stock from Nexus phones as possible. Dev should instead of adding new features focus on making the ROM as stable as possible.
Thanks for suggestions, as my signature says I am now on Simplistic rom, which is pretty good, but just wondering if there is anything even closer to what I am looking for you might see somewhere. Thanks for any suggestions
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I've been testing the "resurrection remix v9.3 ICS black edition xxlph 4.0.3. full-wipe". Flashed it earlier today but I've had westcrips remix rom since v8.6 and it has some fc's but they are really rare and battery life is quite good. Also touchwiz has been removed and it has both trebuchet and nova launchers. Give it a go if you don't mind doing full wipe You can find a video of the rom from youtube or by searching android development section.
jaagi said:
I've been testing the "resurrection remix v9.3 ICS black edition xxlph 4.0.3. full-wipe". Flashed it earlier today but I've had westcrips remix rom since v8.6 and it has some fc's but they are really rare and battery life is quite good. Also touchwiz has been removed and it has both trebuchet and nova launchers. Give it a go if you don't mind doing full wipe You can find a video of the rom from youtube or by searching android development section.
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haha, at the same time
tutsipoppy said:
I recently moved from Gingerbread 2.3.6 to AndyX Rom v5.3 which is based on Android 4.0.3 [XXLB].
Very good.....stable....fast...and good battery backup. You can give it a shot.
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Not to be rude or anything...But is there a reason why this is your first post and you created this account in this month? Coincidence? I think not!
Promotion of your OWN rom? I think so!
Have a nice day!
ive been using this one for a bit, its worked out surprisingly well so far. still needs a few little tweaks but its surpassed my expectations (been on villainrom, checkrom, omega ics previously)
Pure ICS v6.1
The only thing I dont like ICS is battery drain. No matter what ROM I use, it drains my batt 1% every 8min when the display is on. I prefer CM7 and cant wait for CM9 to have its video recording fixed !
pcboyy said:
The only thing I dont like ICS is battery drain. No matter what ROM I use, it drains my batt 1% every 8min when the display is on. I prefer CM7 and cant wait for CM9 to have its video recording fixed !
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I havent experienced that at all, I had it go around 30 hours with 3.5 hours of screen on time and still had 30% battery life the other day. And there was a pretty significant amount of internet usage in that time too
pcboyy said:
The only thing I dont like ICS is battery drain. No matter what ROM I use, it drains my batt 1% every 8min when the display is on. I prefer CM7 and cant wait for CM9 to have its video recording fixed !
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you can use different karnels for testing your battery)))
pcboyy said:
The only thing I dont like ICS is battery drain. No matter what ROM I use, it drains my batt 1% every 8min when the display is on. I prefer CM7 and cant wait for CM9 to have its video recording fixed !
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use code *#9900# and disable FAST DORMACY and then see if your battery life gets better.. if you'd like to know what that is, check http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9191759/Fast_dormancy_to_improve_smartphone_networking_and_battery_performance_
I would also vote for "resurrection remix" I'm using the 9.0 version now with the xxlph kernel and beside a few glitches it has been very stable.
Has anyone played with CM9 - ICS firmware, it would be great to know how stable that is.
Im using the XXLPH - but I have been have slight problems with Wifi Scan, it doesn't seem quick enough, not like the other android phones I've used.
Feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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I havent experienced that at all, I had it go around 30 hours with 3.5 hours of screen on time and still had 30% battery life the other day. And there was a pretty significant amount of internet usage in that time too
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OMG! Thanks for your recommendation. Pure ICS has great battery life!! thanks!! Gonna stick to it until official by Samsung
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menace1234 said:
Has anyone played with CM9 - ICS firmware, it would be great to know how stable that is.
Im using the XXLPH - but I have been have slight problems with Wifi Scan, it doesn't seem quick enough, not like the other android phones I've used.
Feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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IMHO, CM9 is the best ICS except you can't record video using the camera app. Wait until the devs get the source code. Other than that, this ROM is outstanding! I think next month is ICS month for all
I'm considering putting a ROM on a friend's device that is not familiar with any sort of troubleshooting but is a reasonable upgrade over stock. If that's not possible I'm fine with that. No bugs preferred. Features aren't that important but the phone lags a lot stock so a speed boost would be nice.
Thanks!
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I'm considering putting a ROM on a friend's device that is not familiar with any sort of troubleshooting but is a reasonable upgrade over stock. If that's not possible I'm fine with that. No bugs preferred. Features aren't that important but the phone lags a lot stock so a speed boost would be nice.
Thanks!
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I typically refrain from "advertising" (even in my own thread - hah) since there are many many fine works to choose from out here crafted by a lot of very dedicated and amazing developers, but in this case I think I'll break my rule and see if my ROM would fit your needs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2088224
My ROM is pretty basic, it tries to mimick the AOSP/Galaxy Nexus as best as possible for the Fascinate, with only a few customizations. I can't say it's 100% bug free, that would be silly (lol), but the latest version (GeeWiz 4.4 + 2 patches) is very solid/stable in my opinion. I think it's a good fit here since it can be applied as a direct stock replacement using ODIN and doesn't change anything that would cause problems going back to stock again if it's not what your friend was expecting.
I'm not sure the "speed" will impress, but it does pretty well considering it's Jelly Bean 4.2 running on a device that came with Eclair :silly: There are some built-in optimizations you can enable like overclocking the CPU to 1.2GHz that help smooth it out, and I've done a lot of work on the kernel to ensure as little wasted CPU % as possible. Battery life will also be less impressive than your friend is used to on stock, but again I think it's pretty darn good given that we are well beyond what the Fascinate was designed for at this point!
If you want a mildly enhanced Gingerbread experience, you can also try my GeeWiz v2.9.2 here at XDA. It's retired and I no longer actively work on it, but it still gets THOUSANDS of downloads every month (admittedly mostly from China and parts of Africa, I've chosen to not try to understand why - lol).
I don't want to drone on, but I want to add something else ... ANY of the ROMs out here should blow your friend's mind! I only recommend my own because it sounds like a good fit for your needs and could be an easier sell for you since it strives for a stock-like experience. Every dev out here is friendly and will help you if you run into problems, so perhaps the best way to go is peruse the selection in the development thread and see what you think! There are really no "bad" choices to be made here.
I'm impressed how helpful you are. How much difference in battery life are we talking here? I put a jellybean rom on my galaxy tab 7 and it lasts for a month easy on standby, so I know it can vary greatly with custom ROMs.
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I typically refrain from "advertising" (even in my own thread - hah) since there are many many fine works to choose from out here crafted by a lot of very dedicated and amazing developers, but in this case I think I'll break my rule and see if my ROM would fit your needs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2088224
My ROM is pretty basic, it tries to mimick the AOSP/Galaxy Nexus as best as possible for the Fascinate, with only a few customizations. I can't say it's 100% bug free, that would be silly (lol), but the latest version (GeeWiz 4.4 + 2 patches) is very solid/stable in my opinion. I think it's a good fit here since it can be applied as a direct stock replacement using ODIN and doesn't change anything that would cause problems going back to stock again if it's not what your friend was expecting.
I'm not sure the "speed" will impress, but it does pretty well considering it's Jelly Bean 4.2 running on a device that came with Eclair :silly: There are some built-in optimizations you can enable like overclocking the CPU to 1.2GHz that help smooth it out, and I've done a lot of work on the kernel to ensure as little wasted CPU % as possible. Battery life will also be less impressive than your friend is used to on stock, but again I think it's pretty darn good given that we are well beyond what the Fascinate was designed for at this point!
If you want a mildly enhanced Gingerbread experience, you can also try my GeeWiz v2.9.2 here at XDA. It's retired and I no longer actively work on it, but it still gets THOUSANDS of downloads every month (admittedly mostly from China and parts of Africa, I've chosen to not try to understand why - lol).
I don't want to drone on, but I want to add something else ... ANY of the ROMs out here should blow your friend's mind! I only recommend my own because it sounds like a good fit for your needs and could be an easier sell for you since it strives for a stock-like experience. Every dev out here is friendly and will help you if you run into problems, so perhaps the best way to go is peruse the selection in the development thread and see what you think! There are really no "bad" choices to be made here.
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Action B said:
I'm impressed how helpful you are. How much difference in battery life are we talking here? I put a jellybean rom on my galaxy tab 7 and it lasts for a month easy on standby, so I know it can vary greatly with custom ROMs.
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Ugh, that's always a tough one to answer Maybe 10%-15%? It's really hard to say since it depends on how the device is used. Some stuff like active Bluetooth definitely takes more juice, whereas Wifi takes less. The screen takes more since JB requires the kernel to maintain a VSYNC (Vertical Sync) signal and it will enable the accelerometer device whenever the screen is on for auto-rotation support (if you turn off auto-rotate it's smart enough to disable the accelerometer). Pretty much anything you actively do with the device will require more battery than it did, there's lots more code in JB, fancier graphics to animate, etc.
There is also one application, Google Play Music, that I have listed as a "Known Issue" when it comes to battery life. For some reason/bug in it's album art downloader, it can get itself stuck in a loop and trash the battery in a matter of hours. I tracked it down to the mentioned album art service when an external SD card is installed, and told Google, but that's all I could do for that. I recommend disabling Google Play Music and replacing it with a better music player!
I wish I had a more concrete answer for this one, but "it depends" is about as good as I can do. If your friend is getting well more than a day out of the phone now, he should probably be OK if charging every night is acceptable. If he's already battery-challenged, I think it may be a frustrating experience for him.
For what it's worth, here are the most two recent battery life screenshots I have. Note: These are with a brand new battery ($14 - amazon) and really only show standby with Wifi ON times, which is what I was testing. Basically indicative of the absolute maximum battery life possible, not real world usage.
Hope this was enough to help with your decision!
Geewiz is probably the most stable by far great battery life and as you can see great developer
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There are so many recommended ROMs now, it almost seems like too many choices. (It's a good "problem". I'm not complaining.) I tend to find one based on reviews and recommendations and stick with it, rather than flashing through a bunch. I've been using MIUI from GB to JB, but sadly development seems to have ceased.
I had been eyeing Stephen.k.spear's AOKP PUB as a replacement, but development seems to have ceased there as well. Looks like the torch was picked up by bbrad's AOKP, but browsing that thread opened the floodgates to other ROMs such as Liquidsmooth, Carbonrom, SuperNexus, etc, etc, etc, as well as Geewiz mentioned here. Can anyone provide an overview comparison (stability, features, other pros/cons...) between some of these ROMs? (What exactly is the difference in stability of "by far"?)
Also, at some point around ICS, there was a change in file system and/or structure that allowed MIUI to hold a lot more apps than previously. (I think it had to do with MTD, but not 100% sure.) Can I assume most ROM's have this expanded capability now? Does Geewiz have it? I noticed it uses a different file system. Thank you.
I am one of those people who really likes a stable rom and I would really recommend you try Helly Bean. It's been by far the most stable and feature packed rom I've ever used. I'm not trashing any of the other roms we have, but I've tried almost all of them and I always come back to Helly Bean.
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I am one of those people who really likes a stable rom and I would really recommend you try Helly Bean. It's been by far the most stable and feature packed rom I've ever used. I'm not trashing any of the other roms we have, but I've tried almost all of them and I always come back to Helly Bean.
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Unfortunately I can't ask in the ROM thread, so I'll ask here... Which version of gapps do I flash for Helly Bean? The thread points to 20121130, but there seems to be a more recent version 20130301 at goo.im. Also, droidstyle's guide mentions inverted gapps. Does that work with Helly Bean? If so, are they flashed after the regular gapps, or instead of them? Thanks so much.
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Unfortunately I can't ask in the ROM thread, so I'll ask here... Which version of gapps do I flash for Helly Bean? The thread points to 20121130, but there seems to be a more recent version 20130301 at goo.im. Also, droidstyle's guide mentions inverted gapps. Does that work with Helly Bean? If so, are they flashed after the regular gapps, or instead of them? Thanks so much.
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Flash the ones from goo.im and as for the inverted you just flash them like regular gapps
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I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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I recommend PACMan Rom 4.2.2. Highly stable, very few problems for my Note
phnord said:
I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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so many people ask this same question and anyone with real experience here is going to tell you..................
every ROM is going to act differently on every phone. it also depends on what kind of user you are.
common rule here (im not being a jerk,you should know this) is read, read, read.
to show you how often someone asks this very question, go back out one screen and down about 5 threads "looking for an excellent ROM"
I have posted my honest opinions and what you can expect from all available firmwares.
good luck my friend
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every ROM is going to act differently on every phone. it also depends on what kind of user you are.
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This is why I am trying to describe what kind of user I am. To reiterate, my priorities are stability, battery life, functionality and speed, roughly in that order.
To elaborate, I want:
Something that will run smoothly
Something who's battery will last for a day if I use it with moderation
Something that, while not necessarily on the bleeding edge of development, has lots of new features
Something with a smooth UI and good, modern capabilities
In terms of specific features that I'd like to try or find necessary, I want a ROM that supports the Jelly Bean panoramic picture mode; one that supports Wifi Hotspots; one with a good toggle menu for preserving battery and turning on / off common features, flash, etc.; and one that has a variety of other useful things to explore / try out. Maybe something with good audio capabilities?
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This is why I am trying to describe what kind of user I am. To reiterate, my priorities are stability, battery life, functionality and speed, roughly in that order.
To elaborate, I want:
Something that will run smoothly
Something who's battery will last for a day if I use it with moderation
Something that, while not necessarily on the bleeding edge of development, has lots of new features
Something with a smooth UI and good, modern capabilities
In terms of specific features that I'd like to try or find necessary, I want a ROM that supports the Jelly Bean panoramic picture mode; one that supports Wifi Hotspots; one with a good toggle menu for preserving battery and turning on / off common features, flash, etc.; and one that has a variety of other useful things to explore / try out. Maybe something with good audio capabilities?
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again, if you haven't, read the other post.
from the sounds of it, you may want to go with 4.1.2. it is based off of Touchwiz. SUPER solid and great support from the community. not many updates. it is so solid, it does not need them. but others are still there for support.
personal choice.......PADAWAN........others have had some issues with lag (biggest complaint) and I refer them ( an I have the most thanks on thread) to p.355-378. read through those pages. obviously others have not figured it out cause they don't read. those setting had my phone running better than it ever ran, even out of box.
the only way you will know is to try for yourself. but it is lie Trident gum.............4 out of 5 dentist surveyed.........
as always, good luck in your hunt
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from the sounds of it, you may want to go with 4.1.2. it is based off of Touchwiz. SUPER solid and great support from the community. not many updates. it is so solid, it does not need them. but others are still there for support.
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I want to make sure that I understand this correctly. The latest update pushed out by SAMSUNG for the i717 was 4.1.2, so therefore the roms built off of 4.1 are using SAMSUNG TouchWiz as a base. The one's built off of 4.2 are using some other base, be it AOKP, CM, etc. Is this correct?
I'm not so certain that I want to go to a 4.1 ROM. Looking over the feature-set of Google's 4.2, I'm seeing quite a bit that I want - for instance, I *really* want Photo Sphere.
I think that if there's a stable version of 4.3 that isn't a battery hog, and that has a decent extended feature-set on-top of it, then that's what I want. That said, if 4.3 is very unstable I'm up for trying 4.2. The only way I'd want 4.1 is if there is no 4.2 or above that is good with battery usage and more-or-less stable.
So, any recommendations with that in mind?
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I want to make sure that I understand this correctly. The latest update pushed out by SAMSUNG for the i717 was 4.1.2, so therefore the roms built off of 4.1 are using SAMSUNG TouchWiz as a base. The one's built off of 4.2 are using some other base, be it AOKP, CM, etc. Is this correct?
I'm not so certain that I want to go to a 4.1 ROM. Looking over the feature-set of Google's 4.2, I'm seeing quite a bit that I want - for instance, I *really* want Photo Sphere.
I think that if there's a stable version of 4.3 that isn't a battery hog, and that has a decent extended feature-set on-top of it, then that's what I want. That said, if 4.3 is very unstable I'm up for trying 4.2. The only way I'd want 4.1 is if there is no 4.2 or above that is good with battery usage and more-or-less stable.
So, any recommendations with that in mind?
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first part..................correct.
that is the good thing about 4.2, highly customizable, but you sacrifice stability. lots of updates, but I am afraid that is because there is mainly one thing that is trying t be fixed, RANDOM REBOOTS. some have success controlling them with an alternate KERNAL which provides the ability to OC/UV, but it can be a constant maintinence on your part. honestly, there is never a good time for a reboot. 4.2 is a much bigger battery hog and a reboot is only going to suck more of it.
second part.................. that's what APK's are for. if it is one simple app ( for whatever personal reason) someone is stuck on, any times you can install it that way. just download it through browser on phone and install with file manager of choice.
third part.................. not that 4.3 is more unstable or battery hog. (I have better battery on 4.3) not necessarily unstable. I just think it is still very early in the game and trying to get some kinks worked out. 4.1.2 was the same way. everybody is impatient, just the nature of the beast. give the amazing and talented developers time. I find 4.3 very smoooooooth, but I have been getting bootloops and I am thinking it is most likely my APP2ZIPP file (which has my apps) I am flashing. so I don't have to keep installing all my same apps one at a time. don't think it is working with 4.3 transition.
the rest is up to you my friend. its all about what YOU want and what you are willing to tolerate as far as constant maintinence.
oh and by the way I am NOT running PADAWAN right now...........its been to solid. I was getting bored. I am addicted to flashing maybe. I ran it for months, flawlessly. since coming off, the longest I have been on any ROM is MAYBE 3 days before changing whether it be the reboots, battery or bootloop issues.
I am not bored though, it definitely give me troubleshooting experience and enables me to help others which I am enjoying
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first part..................correct.
that is the good thing about 4.2, highly customizable, but you sacrifice stability. lots of updates, but I am afraid that is because there is mainly one thing that is trying t be fixed, RANDOM REBOOTS. some have success controlling them with an alternate KERNAL which provides the ability to OC/UV, but it can be a constant maintinence on your part. honestly, there is never a good time for a reboot. 4.2 is a much bigger battery hog and a reboot is only going to suck more of it.
second part.................. that's what APK's are for. if it is one simple app ( for whatever personal reason) someone is stuck on, any times you can install it that way. just download it through browser on phone and install with file manager of choice.
third part.................. not that 4.3 is more unstable or battery hog. (I have better battery on 4.3) not necessarily unstable. I just think it is still very early in the game and trying to get some kinks worked out. 4.1.2 was the same way. everybody is impatient, just the nature of the beast. give the amazing and talented developers time. I find 4.3 very smoooooooth, but I have been getting bootloops and I am thinking it is most likely my APP2ZIPP file (which has my apps) I am flashing. so I don't have to keep installing all my same apps one at a time. don't think it is working with 4.3 transition.
the rest is up to you my friend. its all about what YOU want and what you are willing to tolerate as far as constant maintinence.
oh and by the way I am NOT running PADAWAN right now...........its been to solid. I was getting bored. I am addicted to flashing maybe. I ran it for months, flawlessly. since coming off, the longest I have been on any ROM is MAYBE 3 days before changing whether it be the reboots, battery or bootloop issues.
I am not bored though, it definitely give me troubleshooting experience and enables me to help others which I am enjoying
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Do all of the 4.2 ROMs suffer random reboots? I see you mention that an alternate kernel may help, but are there any ROMs that have either incorporated in said kernel or that have found another fix of some kind for stability?
Also, with 4.3: are the random reboots an issue there as well? What kinds of kinks are current issues?
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Do all of the 4.2 ROMs suffer random reboots? I see you mention that an alternate kernel may help, but are there any ROMs that have either incorporated in said kernel or that have found another fix of some kind for stability?
Also, with 4.3: are the random reboots an issue there as well? What kinds of kinks are current issues?
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On 4.2 they have option to OC/UV with stock kernels. It can just be a constant adjustment in those values to minimalize the reboots. With 4.3 I guess you can say I had reboots, my problem was the reboot would never complete and would just bootloop.
I am just being patient and giving it some time. I know many are working on it cause there is so little action in development thread. Many impatient members have driven developers away by constant pestering. I think many have learned that lesson. That why it is so quiet.
Trust me, it is the calm before the storm
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Hmmm... what 4.3 were you using that gave you boot-loops? I'm thinking of trying PAC-Man, and I'm debating between the 4.2.2 and the 4.3 - as it seems that the latter is fairly stable from what I've surmised.
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Hmmm... what 4.3 were you using that gave you boot-loops? I'm thinking of trying PAC-Man, and I'm debating between the 4.2.2 and the 4.3 - as it seems that the latter is fairly stable from what I've surmised.
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anything 4.3 was doing it. again I am thinking it may have been my APP2ZIPP file.
here is a tip as to what I do when contemplating new ROM...............
obviously I am looking at original OP post for features to what I want. then I go to last page of thread and read backwards. this gives me the most recent problem ROM is having and hint as to whether there is a fix. if it is something I can deal with, then I go for it. if its too much hassle, then I don't.
I thought I was the only one... I I do the exact same thing capt.
2$HAYNE
Now my eyes hurt
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Now my eyes hurt
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are you welling up or did you get something in your eye dancing in the barn?
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are you welling up or did you get something in your eye dancing in the barn?
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All your words hurt them..your very chatty today lol.
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Bubbajoe40356 said:
All your words hurt them..your very chatty today lol.
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im sorry big guy, just trying to help
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im sorry big guy, just trying to help
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I know ..and you are. Keep up the good work. :beer:
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I know ..and you are. Keep up the good work.
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Indeed
Since you, captemo try a lot of ROMs, which 4.2.2 ROM, that you have tried, has lasted the longest without a reboot (how many days)?
Carbon 1.8 was the longest for me thus far, 4 days but after that it went into a reboot frenzy and would reboot 2-3 times a day. Now I'm on CM 10.1 8/23 nightly and it has lasted 2.5 days before reboot. Let's see if it will last longer than that.
Since it's become clear to me that the main issue here is finding something both modern and stable, I've started a different thread that makes that clear in the title. It can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425090
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Indeed
Since you, captemo try a lot of ROMs, which 4.2.2 ROM, that you have tried, has lasted the longest without a reboot (how many days)?
Carbon 1.8 was the longest for me thus far, 4 days but after that it went into a reboot frenzy and would reboot 2-3 times a day. Now I'm on CM 10.1 8/23 nightly and it has lasted 2.5 days before reboot. Let's see if it will last longer than that.
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again, everybody's phone is different. I am not sure why, but my phone cant run CARBON, any version. which kind of bums be out cause of all the options available. many of the 4.2's would do exactly that for me, I get a couple of days out of them, then reboots galore. Carbon, (4.2, 4.3, alternate kernels) is just a no go for me. it's like my phone has an allergy.
it was always suggested to me to try stock KERNEL and let it settle for couple days and hell if I had to flash something, might as well flash a new ROM. then I ran out of ROM's. that's when I started trying KERNELS.
most recently, I have had success with BLOWNFUZE's AOKP and compatible UBER (I think it in OP) and also ROOTBOX w/ UBER. ROOTBOX has some pretty cool features. different sounds and statusbar changing colors in different menus. pretty neat. AOKP, just a bit more stable maybe. I am not sure I had the OC/UV settings dialed in just right though. battery wasn't quite lasting me. want to go back and tweak those some more.
in the meantime, and I don't know why I haven't tried in the past, I have been running SONS of ANDROID. 6 days, stock kernel, NO REBOOTS
in between, I am trying to keep my eyes open for some breakthrough's on 4.3. of course I am also trying work out my options for getting the MEGA 6.3.
again, good luck, read, and remember all phones are just a smidge different. that's smidge can be ALL the difference
are these newer android phones giving more reasons to stay stock? I have found with the G2 that I have no want (or need) right now to root/ROM this phone. Usually when I get a new phone the first thing I do is root it, clear all that carrier crap out, or simply flash CM for that stock android experience; I just have not found that need with the G2.
So, what is the point of this thread?
I want to know everyone's thoughts about this. Are you rooted...are you stock....and why you are or are not?
If you are rooted, I would also like to know what ROM/Kernel/etc you are running.
Thanks!
I am rooted but on stock everything else.
I mainly rooted for Titanium Backup and other root enabled apps like AdBlock and Greenify. Beyond that, stock is sufficient for me.
Stock unrooted. Since greenify is avaliable without root I kinda found no real reason to root. The only thing I really want is the dual window option from LG g flex. Maybe also to try out dorimanx kernel for undervolting and messing around a bit.
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Stock unrooted. Since greenify is avaliable without root I kinda found no real reason to root. The only thing I really want is the dual window option from LG g flex. Maybe also to try out dorimanx kernel for undervolting and messing around a bit.
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The main reason I usually root/rom is for speed and battery life....as we all know the G2 doesnt lack anything in either. I use the greenify beta as well and have noticed a huge difference in my battery life. The only thing tempting me to root is Titanium Backup but I have been fighting it because I'm so damn happy with the phone as it sits.
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I am rooted but on stock everything else.
I mainly rooted for Titanium Backup and other root enabled apps like AdBlock and Greenify. Beyond that, stock is sufficient for me.
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andydumi said:
I am rooted but on stock everything else.
I mainly rooted for Titanium Backup and other root enabled apps like AdBlock and Greenify. Beyond that, stock is sufficient for me.
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Link for adblock? Or at least point me in right direction
Root + Flex rom + Custom kernel
Why?
I like stock rom (UI and feature) but flex rom is better (Black UI + more feature)
I'm rooted and stock. Stock rocks. I'm also running g2 xposed. With this you have all the customizations on aosp but on stock Rom
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Root + Flex rom + Custom kernel
Why?
I like stock rom (UI and feature) but flex rom is better (Black UI + more feature)
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if there was a Flex rom for the Sprint variant, I would probably reconsider. Althoughhhh I am running the LG Flex theme thru LG's theme manager which gives me a somewhat similar look to the Flex.
I like the stock ROM with xposed, but now I'm on AOSP, because micro stuttering on stock started to bug me, even if it was barely noticeable.
thoughts....
Flashing is so played out for me. A new feature gets added and something else breaks and needs to be fixed...repeat.
.....At this point just root and do your own thing(s).
But I have not did anything to this phone, it works just fine.
I'm stuck but rooted with a few xposed modules, adblock and of course the camera mod. Now it's perfect! Never been this happy with a device. I played with AOSP kk and that was fun for awhile. I came from a gnex previously, which I loved despite the shortcomings.
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I have 3x VS980s. Two are happy with being 100% stock.
I rooted mine from day1, but stayed with stock-based ROM for a month as I was happy with stockLG (I can satisfy my flashing urges with
my N7) ... Then I decided to explore the latest/greatest of Android on this phone... I would never go back to stock and don't even care when/if LG
would release a stock 4.4.x (OK, maybe we need the new OEM kernel source).
ROM+gapps are normally ~200MB instead of a huge download.
I get to try so many features out .. I can switch to other ROM (or even my Stock) Backups in a few minutes, if my mood changes.
Not that I fully need those features ... just the feeling of doing things freely.
I'm currently staying with Mahdi ... lean, fast, so-many-features, no issues (I had some freezes/reboots on early releases, still no biggies then).
DirtyUnicorns is great too, but may need some little time to smooth out the little bugs
Played around like 3 days with roms, i turned into a flashaholic, flex, non flex, tried so many roms and at the end of this, im on stock rooted now. i bought G2 Xposed (0,70 € - definitely worth!) and now it looks cool, its fast, stable, what else do i need? Darker UI? For what exactly? I actually using apps and not the starving at the settings and think "wow cool, its dark". no need, really. im pretty happy currently with full stock rooted. the next days i will customize my homescreen a bit and then its ready. just wait for 4.4
YOLO
Stock, rooted, debloated, xposed to get rid of GPS and dual wifi/lte notifications.
I'm coming from the HTC Rezound. I usually go for CM, but am very impressed with the LG interface. I have been tempted to try a flex Rom, but am happy having a phone that everything works, and has amazing battery life.
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if there was a Flex rom for the Sprint variant, I would probably reconsider. Althoughhhh I am running the LG Flex theme thru LG's theme manager which gives me a somewhat similar look to the Flex.
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Their not a flex rom for sprint.
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After flashing my Galaxy Nexus several times a week, and sometimes a few times in a day, for two years, I fully expected that I'd be doing the same with the G2. But I've been very pleasantly surprised at the speed, smoothness, features and battery life with stock. Stock has also been incredibly stable for me, No FC's, no lockups.
The stocks apps are much better than I expected -- the functionality has been excellent. I'm keeping an eye on the various sub-forums here for the G2, and may wind up flashing something new, but so far, I don't see anything more appealing than stock, and I'm not ready to give up the stock features. I may wind up with Flex, but I'm also guessing that there will be an update for the G2 sometime in the next 2 or 3 months, and my guess is that it may have some of the extra feature's we're seeing today in the Flex ROM. For now - I'm happy to remain stock, experiment with themes for the stock launcher and simply enjoy this fantastic phone. Still feels weird, as this is the first phone I've had where I'm really happy with stock.
^^Same exact situation for me,I'm loving the g2,just need to get rid of some of the bloat. But something deep inside really wants to start flashing away,but it's just too good as is, I stopped after root and recovery.
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I rooted first to get rid of all the status bar icons. Overkill lol I don't need to know NFC or WiFi is on. And with xposed tweaks, its all I need. I have zero interested in an asop ROM. Using flex and love it
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Now that I've got my ZUGPe my Note is going into semi retirement as mp3 player / cycling gps / htpc remote and I don't care so much about features and customizing as I do about stabiltiy now. I have dealt with varying degrees of instability with many many CM and AOKP variations to stay on Vanilla-ish Android. I really really really hate Touchwiz, but do I have to go back to Touchwiz to get something really stable? I'll cut you off and say maybe my phone just never agreed with CM or AOKP so even if yours is stable mine never quite got there, never more than 2-3 days without a RR or lockup, and usually several RR each day. My old Incredible on CM goes nearly a month before an issue creeps up but to be fair it doesn't get a ton of use. Neither will the Note so I just want something solid and dependable, rather than cutting-edge. Thanks for tossing your opinions at me!
You seem to be very aware that this a loaded question and knowledgable to the fact that what runs good on one, may not on another, so I will respond to this.
I am in the same boat as you and do still enjoy the Note, even though semi- retiring it.
At the moment I am swapping back and forth on 2 roms to determine which I like best. They are older roms and never had a hiccup from neither.
Rootbox and Sons of Android.
I am having trouble however. I like them both.
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You seem to be very aware that this a loaded question and knowledgable to the fact that what runs good on one, may not on another, so I will respond to this.
I am in the same boat as you and do still enjoy the Note, even though semi- retiring it.
At the moment I am swapping back and forth on 2 roms to determine which I like best. They are older roms and never had a hiccup from neither.
Rootbox and Sons of Android.
I am having trouble however. I like them both.
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Hmmmmmm I never tried sons of android gotta try that. If ya want my opinion every i717 runs different. I've had good stable experience s with padawan, black star, and aokp 4.4 . There rock solid and the forums for them are very helpful. Now going to find sons of android lol
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Hmmmmmm I never tried sons of android gotta try that. If ya want my opinion every i717 runs different. I've had good stable experience s with padawan, black star, and aokp 4.4 . There rock solid and the forums for them are very helpful. Now going to find sons of android lol
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its PT's also
Carbonrom V 1.8
I too am not happy with touchwiz roms. And seemed always returning to one of pt's builds because they are for me rock solid. But TW.
I have flashed a bunch of roms, and try most any AOSP, AOCP, AOKP, CM, ... searching for a stable daily driver that works all the time.
I have been running Carbon Rom V 1.8 it's 4.2.2 and for my phone stable. Very stable. ALL my phone functions work perfectly, call quality, speaker phone, bluetooth, even my call recording app works. Camera, video, all good.
Really happy with this one. Battery life is a bit better too. If that is even possible with the i717.
I had been trying the nightly builds, and the huber kernel. But was getting an occasional lock up reboot, etc..
Had given up and went back to ol faithful Padawan.
Then found a Carbon Rom release version for our i717, Version 1.8. I did a full wipe, data, cache, and flashed it with TWRP. And the gapps-jb-20130812-signed.zip.
No OC but it runs fine without it. Haven't tried the huber kernel with this version, and don't plan to.
HTH
James
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I too am not happy with touchwiz roms. And seemed always returning to one of pt's builds because they are for me rock solid. But TW.
I have flashed a bunch of roms, and try most any AOSP, AOCP, AOKP, CM, ... searching for a stable daily driver that works all the time.
I have been running Carbon Rom V 1.8 it's 4.2.2 and for my phone stable. Very stable. ALL my phone functions work perfectly, call quality, speaker phone, bluetooth, even my call recording app works. Camera, video, all good.
Really happy with this one. Battery life is a bit better too. If that is even possible with the i717.
I had been trying the nightly builds, and the huber kernel. But was getting an occasional lock up reboot, etc..
Had given up and went back to ol faithful Padawan.
Then found a Carbon Rom release version for our i717, Version 1.8. I did a full wipe, data, cache, and flashed it with TWRP. And the gapps-jb-20130812-signed.zip.
No OC but it runs fine without it. Haven't tried the huber kernel with this version, and don't plan to.
HTH
James
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However, not to be technical, but its "Uber".
For Bulldogs function and for mine, we are not using phone function anymore. Just a sort of mini tablet.
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I would base this question on "which ROM would I flash on my wife's phone".... She also has the 717, but won't let me put my dirty mitts on it That being said, without question I would put AOKP 4.4.2 on it if she finally relented. One of the most stable I have run, and blownfuze said he has no intention of giving up his note anytime soon. Which means we will get support for a while on that one.
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:highfive:Yes, that is a great analogy, "which ROM would I flash on my wife's phone".
Only trouble is her phone is the i317. Carbon does have a release for her phone, but she likes the Jedi X version I have on hers.
I will have to re-investigate the latest AOKP 4.4.2 . I did briefly look at it and didn't get much past the known issues. Glad he fixed them.
I appreciate the developers here, and all the time they spend working and tweaking these ROMS.
However this Carbon works great for my i717. Camcorder, camera, gallery, all working fine. Bluetooth, etc.
I have had only one complaint about speaker phone echo, and I couldn't hear it on my end. When my wife called me from her note 2. I use the speaker phone option on about 1/2 my calls.
Thank you captemo for catching the miss spelled kernel. Wouldn't want someone searching for a mis-spelled anything! :good:
I hope this thread finds it's way to others still loyal to the i717 wanting something other than TW based ROMS. Retired or not, I like everything the device has to operate, reliably.
I did DL "Sons of Android" a couple weeks ago, and the .rar files opened up into something other than a ROM. Guess that one is gone?
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:highfive:Yes, that is a great analogy, "which ROM would I flash on my wife's phone".
Only trouble is her phone is the i317. Carbon does have a release for her phone, but she likes the Jedi X version I have on hers.
I will have to re-investigate the latest AOKP 4.4.2 . I did briefly look at it and didn't get much past the known issues. Glad he fixed them.
I appreciate the developers here, and all the time they spend working and tweaking these ROMS.
However this Carbon works great for my i717. Camcorder, camera, gallery, all working fine. Bluetooth, etc.
I have had only one complaint about speaker phone echo, and I couldn't hear it on my end. When my wife called me from her note 2. I use the speaker phone option on about 1/2 my calls.
Thank you captemo for catching the miss spelled kernel. Wouldn't want someone searching for a mis-spelled anything! :good:
I hope this thread finds it's way to others still loyal to the i717 wanting something other than TW based ROMS. Retired or not, I like everything the device has to operate, reliably.
I did DL "Sons of Android" a couple weeks ago, and the .rar files opened up into something other than a ROM. Guess that one is gone?
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I just posted link the other day and gapps for it too
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I thought aokp 4.4.2 and all kit kat roms had issues with the display going crazy especially related to games and lock screens. I though the camcorder doesn't work yet for aokp. I am in the same boat. My s4 died so I am back to the old note. I am going to try carbon 1.8 or sons on android, as those are the only download links I can find. Thanks for this post.
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Thank you captemo for the direction of the Sons of Android files.:good:
I did DL them. My connection must have been wonky.
I had issues with the Gapps file. It must have been a bad download for me. Tried twice. Got the ROM to load up fine, but without Gapps I didn't get a good testing done. I was using TWRP.
Without an MD5 to be sure my DL was good I probably shouldn't have tried it.
So I reinstalled Carbon V1.8 from my BU.
Since my last post, I did have a FC and reboot related to my BeWeather App. I have also had issues with this App in TW based ROMs I've tried.
I don't load allot of Apps, or run many programs. And the ones I can Greenify, I do. Maybe this is why Carbon works for me?:fingers-crossed:
I reset my weather App to update manually when I use it now. I think it updating as the program opens has been the trouble.
Is there a problem with Auto-Brightness on non TW roms? My display flickers when I unlock my screen. This happened on 4.4.2 roms and 4.2.2 carbon 1.8. Is there a simple fix I am forgetting?
The auto bright setting on the non TW based ROMs I have tried have not been as smooth as TW ROMs. I set the auto function off, and set it to low.
Some of the non TW based ROMs have the slide your finger across the top of the screen to manually adjust brightness. Nice feature.
I went back to the download dropbox provided by captemo and re-downloaded the files, and got a good clean ROM and Gapps. :good:
I am using "Sons Of Android" now, and like it very much! So far so good!
Thank you, captemo :good: