[Q] Voice Search on Z Ultra doesn't work well? - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

I really liked using the "Okay Google Everywhere" on my previous device and I was looking forward to using it on the Z Ultra, but ever since I first activated it I am finding that it gets my voice queries wrong a lot and that I have to hold the phone a lot closer to my face.
Is there a fix for this or is it simply because of the water-proofing that covers the microphones?

ApertureAndroid said:
I really liked using the "Okay Google Everywhere" on my previous device and I was looking forward to using it on the Z Ultra, but ever since I first activated it I am finding that it gets my voice queries wrong a lot and that I have to hold the phone a lot closer to my face.
Is there a fix for this or is it simply because of the water-proofing that covers the microphones?
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I suspect you have it correct. I've not had too many issues while using it (other than battery drain when 'everywhere' is enabled), it even copes with my weird NZ accent.
It'll be intresting to see if others have issues with the 'waterproof' mic

blueether said:
I suspect you have it correct. I've not had too many issues while using it (other than battery drain when 'everywhere' is enabled), it even copes with my weird NZ accent.
It'll be intresting to see if others have issues with the 'waterproof' mic
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How close do you have to hold it to your face? On my old phone (Atrix HD), I could trigger a voice search with my phone lying on my desk about 3 feet away from me, but the Z Ultra needs to be held about five inches from my face for it to pick up my commands accurately.
I use AutoVoice so voice search is something I use a lot.

normally use it in hand, so about 1+ ft

blueether said:
normally use it in hand, so about 1+ ft
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Hmm, how loud do you have to speak for it to register? I'm used to speaking in a normal/quiet tone if I hold it one foot away, but for the Z Ultra I need to raise my voice a little bit higher.
The microphone that receives voice command input is the bottom one, while the top one does not react. I wonder why? I would think the top microphone should be the one receiving voice commands.
Do you think it could be possible to enable both microphones on the phone to listen after the initial "Okay, Google" is performed, or would that not work/cause problems?

I haven't had my xperia z ultra for a while but still browse the threads. I don't no if someone could try this though I no it is a completely different phone but still the idea might help.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2805568

nathlynn22 said:
I haven't had my xperia z ultra for a while but still browse the threads. I don't no if someone could try this though I no it is a completely different phone but still the idea might help.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2805568
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I looked that up and saw that, too, but the Z Ultra's mixer_paths.XML doesn't have the Analog Input Devices anywhere on it.
Here it is. It has some microphone devices listed, though:
http://pastebin.com/BHZ0Z7t1
Also, Pimped Kernel has options to change the audio volume gain for the microphone, but it doesn't seem to help.

Alright, so, I found this thread. Turns out you do have to edit the mixer_paths.XML. It's just not the same variables that need to be changed as the OnePlus. Following the thread helped the voice search on my phone a lot.
I'm posting this for future reference.

I flashed the Lollipop GPe port and now the microphone is wonderfully sensitive. I can activate voice search from across the room.
It's way better than how it was before on KitKat custom ROMs, even after I edited the mixer_paths.XML. I don't know if the stock ROM and KitKat GPe are also this sensitive, but they probably are.
Anyone know why this is?
I really would like the microphone to be this good on CM 12 and other custom ROMs.
My guess is Sony uses special drivers that are probably not open source for the microphone, since it also has that noise canceling mic.

Update: Mic back to all it's former glory
On the latest Resurrection Remix Lollipop build with the latest Lollipop PA Nano Gapps, the mic is perfectly sensitive again.
I'm pretty happy about this so I just thought I'd share that here.
I don't know who fixed it, Google or a dev, but thank you to whoever it was.

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So no notification sounds through headphones?

What's up with that? Even with headphones plugged in the notification sounds go through the external speaker?
Silliness.
Buuuuuuump no one?
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I would like to know the answer to this as well, my previous HTC when headphones are plugged in all sounds including notifications went through them, yet the S3 sends notifications to the external speaker, surely this is a bug?
It's absurd and not the only Samsung phone that does it. The thing that strikes me as odd is there aren't many people that seem to care about it. Google searches hardly brings up **** and this thread has gotten like 60 views but 1 response...which is you with the same question.
My Galaxy Nexus didn't have this problem. Annoying as fuc-
i'm guessing most people put their phones to silent while listening to music. that's what i do.
SexyIceCream said:
i'm guessing most people put their phones to silent while listening to music. that's what i do.
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That's ok, but when your phone is in your pocket how do you know if you have a text/email unless you put it on vibrate?
On the top screen of your phone you will see a small i which stands for notification, i dont know whats it called but the settings menu on top of your phone drag it down and click notifications then the letter i will disappear now all notifications will alert you normally via sound like call and texts.
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boohoo2u said:
That's ok, but when your phone is in your pocket how do you know if you have a text/email unless you put it on vibrate?
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oops i meant i put it to vibrate. however if u do this there will be a slight pause in the music when a notification comes in(i think it only applies to certain functions like sms. whatsapp nofs dont pause my music)
I can't believe no one cares about this... I still want to hear my notifications over my headphones... Work email, personal email, specific ringtones for individual calls and texts... the list goes on. I've owned Mostly HTC, but even my Palm Pre and older Sanyo phones were smart enough to mute the external speaker when connecting headphones.
Bizarre.
I don't know if this has been explained prior to my response. Notifications work fine over blue tooth.
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I don't know if this has been explained prior to my response. Notifications work fine over blue tooth.
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The issue was never Bluetooth. The problem is, you can have you headphones plugged in while sitting in the library, and if you get a notification, it will blast the entire room. Similarly, if you are in your car, the notifications don't make it to your aux port, and also, if you use the aux port, Bluetooth will not play the audio simultaneously. That's crap. On CM-based ROMs this works just fine. Definitely not a hardware issue. Sure sucks for people who use hands free kits in their cars
Same issue here with the external speaker not being muted when earphones plugged in, and unlike previous comments, issue persists when using bluetooth. Currently using Omega v32.1.
This problem affects my Galaxy Note 2 as well. Wow. How does no one else care about this? I don't understand why people would put their phone on silent just because they are listening to music. CM10 sort of fixed this issue on my GS3, but I can't use that on the gn2 because of all the custom stylus integration.
It's definitely an android thing and I can't believe that in almost 2 years since it's been logged, no traction appears to have been made.
Did a quick search through the developer forums to see if anyone has made a mod, but couldn't find anything. Does anyone know, if one the many talented developers on XDA, have done anything here?
EDIT: Turns out there is an app already out there to solve this, but interesting that it's not standard in the OS.
ruskin0611 said:
It's definitely an android thing and I can't believe that in almost 2 years since it's been logged, no traction appears to have been made.
Did a quick search through the developer forums to see if anyone has made a mod, but couldn't find anything. Does anyone know, if one the many talented developers on XDA, have done anything here?
EDIT: Turns out there is an app already out there to solve this, but interesting that it's not standard in the OS.
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SoundAbout barely works, FYI. I have had major issues after installing this. Sound cutting in and out just using the earpiece.
ScrapMaker said:
SoundAbout barely works, FYI. I have had major issues after installing this. Sound cutting in and out just using the earpiece.
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Yikes.. Might not use it then. Thanks for the feedback (will do a bit more searching to see if there are other apps that could help).
hmm.. i just realize after reading this thread.. any fix for this issue?
ScrapMaker said:
SoundAbout barely works, FYI. I have had major issues after installing this. Sound cutting in and out just using the earpiece.
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zharif91 said:
hmm.. i just realize after reading this thread.. any fix for this issue?
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You could try SoundAbout, but as ScrapMaker states, it may cause issues with the sound cutting in/out using just the earpiece.
I wasn't going to try using it, but have over the last few days and it seems to work ok for me. Give it a go and see if it works (as I haven't been able to find anything else on the play store yet)...
I just got the galaxy note 2 yestersay and noticed the headphine issue today while working on the motorcycle. With the headohines on I can't hear the phone ring or notificationsn. what I hear instead is the music I'm listening to go mute the length of the ringing while anyone around me hears my ringing which comes off a little rude on my part and a bit annoying that it doesn't just ring through the headset.
I'm going over the settings and searching the Web like crazy but not finding an actual solution just work arounds about muting the ringer and/our putting it on vibe, neither of which is what I'm wanting or works for me.

[Q] Is your microphone useless?

Hi.
I sent back my first Xperia Tablet Z because the microphone was extremely quiet in Skype and voice recording apps and all sorts. I had to speak directly into the top of the device to be heard. The 4.2 update from Sony improves matters, but pretty much just seems to up the gain. Quality still isn't great, but it is at least usable.
I got a replacement and it has exactly the same problem.
Can anyone with this tablet who's running either Sony's 4.1 software or any AOSP-based ROM (Cyanogenmod and the like) please test the microphone for me? It's very noticeable on anything besides Sony's 4.2, which seems to compensate somewhat.
You don't need to make me a recording or anything, just tell me if you can hear yourself if you do a Skype test call or quick voice recording or something (ideally when speaking at the front of the tablet as if you were on a video call, not speaking into the microphone on top). If your tablet is like mine, you will also hear some loud noises whenever you shift your grip.
Basically I'm trying to ascertain once and for all whether this is an isolated issue to the two tablets I've had, or whether the microphone is just a bit terrible on all of them. This'll determine whether I give Sony another chance to replace it or give up and get myself a Nexus 10.
Also let me know if you have an SGP321 or SGP31x. Mine's the latter.
Any replies and assistance very much appreciated. I put in a poll so we can get some quick results but I'd prefer thread replies and maybe we can get a bit of a useful discussion going.
Thanks.
Morti said:
Hi.
I sent back my first Xperia Tablet Z because the microphone was extremely quiet in Skype and voice recording apps and all sorts. I had to speak directly into the top of the device to be heard. The 4.2 update from Sony improves matters, but pretty much just seems to up the gain. Quality still isn't great, but it is at least usable.
I got a replacement and it has exactly the same problem.
Can anyone with this tablet who's running either Sony's 4.1 software or any AOSP-based ROM (Cyanogenmod and the like) please test the microphone for me? It's very noticeable on anything besides Sony's 4.2, which seems to compensate somewhat.
You don't need to make me a recording or anything, just tell me if you can hear yourself if you do a Skype test call or quick voice recording or something (ideally when speaking at the front of the tablet as if you were on a video call, not speaking into the microphone on top). If your tablet is like mine, you will also hear some loud noises whenever you shift your grip.
Basically I'm trying to ascertain once and for all whether this is an isolated issue to the two tablets I've had, or whether the microphone is just a bit terrible on all of them. This'll determine whether I give Sony another chance to replace it or give up and get myself a Nexus 10.
Also let me know if you have an SGP321 or SGP31x. Mine's the latter.
Any replies and assistance very much appreciated. I put in a poll so we can get some quick results but I'd prefer thread replies and maybe we can get a bit of a useful discussion going.
Thanks.
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It depends; with the voice recorder and Skype application it hardly seems to pick up any of my voice. But I never have problems with Google Voice search picking up my voice and I downloaded an audio spectrum analyzer tool that seems to show me that the microphone is getting good response.
Same problem here. The microphone barely registers any sound at all. Can't use it with a voice recorder or IPphone app.
Is there a setting or something to increase microphone sensitivity or is that just something Sony users have to live with?
Thanks!
Hmm... Not just me, then.
As far as I can tell, it's something we have to live with. Sony's 4.2.2 update improved matters somewhat, but the quality still sucks and you can forget Skype on AOSP ROMs for the time being.
Oh well. Thanks for voting. I was considering sending my tablet back for a replacement again but if everyone has this problem to some degree then it's not worth it. Weird how the initial reviews of the device praised the microphone though (and that was on 4.1).
I've decided to stick with the tablet for the time being, though. It's just so thin and light and waterproof. Just have to live with Sony's software and a sucky microphone I guess.
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Bad call quality

Hi...
I got a xperia z2 prototye. model 6503.
Everything is working fine, except the call quality. i can hear and understand very well, but the other person has echoes, and very bad sound..
When I use a heatset, there is no problem. and it is almost good, when I put the phone on the table, with speaker on. The problem is worst, when I hold the phone on my ear..
Is it a hard- or software related problem?
I´m now on 17.1.A.2.55
THX
Since others have not complained about this issue, it looks like a hardware issue. Maybe your microphone is faulty?
Take it to Sony and get it checked.
I did some voice recording, and it is brilliant.
Try turning off the noise cancellation feature during calls, and see if there's a difference.
Well it's a prototype so who knows...
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I have a very similar issue I posted about in my thread...
kuass said:
I did some voice recording, and it is brilliant.
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As you read in my thread my voice recording is anything but brilliant......what did you use for your testing?
g4rvd4 said:
Try turning off the noise cancellation feature during calls, and see if there's a difference.
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I first became concerned when I recorded an outgoing message for the phone's default answering machine...As a test I download a voice recording app that let me turn off noise suppression/cancellation.
It brought it from unusable to usable, still not good. But I think your suggestion is a good one, I just don't see why a software tweak improves on something that seems more like a hardware problem. I say that because I can't find a single thing on the web aside from these two posts stating any concerns about it.
This is killing me...turning off noise cancellation only improves the quality in that particular app. Turning it off in the Call settings didn't change anything. I can't record an acceptable answering machine greeting no matter what I do.
EDIT- I also have unlocked my bootloader and thusly lost my DRM Keys... OP has a prototype Z2, perhaps something there?
Same problem here, and mine is not a proto
my nephew and my gf got Z2 too, and same problem...
we hear wel, they can't hear us clearly
Considering that the quality of sound that comes out of the speakers when we hear music, it sure is software problem! In Xperia Z was the same thing in its release!
non proto:
when I'm on earpiece, the caller will always be breaking up. I'll have to disconnect and return the call before everything's crispy again. though there are times they'll complain of not hearing me properly. turning off the "background noise" option seems to help but they'll tell me it's noisy as fuuu.
lol hoping for a software fix I guess.
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i have had a problem with people being able to hear me clearly ! if i let the phone even drift slightly away from my mouth people say they cant hear me or im breaking up ! ! i had a GS2 before this phone and never had a problem like this . this to me is a hell of a major flaw ... if you struggle to use a mobile phone as what it is designed to do .. then it aint worth a s**t ! i have to keep the phone pressed up against the side of my face all the time im using it ... i cant just wedge it under my chin like i used to do with the old phone. maybe if i root and install a custom ROM it would help this issue ???
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i have had a problem with people being able to hear me clearly ! if i let the phone even drift slightly away from my mouth people say they cant hear me or im breaking up ! ! i had a GS2 before this phone and never had a problem like this . this to me is a hell of a major flaw ... if you struggle to use a mobile phone as what it is designed to do .. then it aint worth a s**t ! i have to keep the phone pressed up against the side of my face all the time im using it ... i cant just wedge it under my chin like i used to do with the old phone. maybe if i root and install a custom ROM it would help this issue ???
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First time I've seen my problem described to the letter. It's especially bad when I hold the phone with my chin and no hands. I turned off noise cancelation under phone settings and people stopped complaining however a few people complained of an echo... Lose, lose. Btw, I'm rooted with a custom ROM and nothing has changed.
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First time I've seen my problem described to the letter. It's especially bad when I hold the phone with my chin and no hands. I turned off noise cancelation under phone settings and people stopped complaining however a few people complained of an echo... Lose, lose. Btw, I'm rooted with a custom ROM and nothing has changed.
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oh .. i thought rooting and a custom ROM would solve this problem ! i also have noise cancellation switched off .. but still if i let this phone drift even slightly away from my mouth , immediately people say im breaking up or they just cant hear me ? what the hell good is a damm phone that people cant hear you on ! i can hear them very clearly .. it must just be a crap microphone in the phone
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oh .. i thought rooting and a custom ROM would solve this problem ! i also have noise cancellation switched off .. but still if i let this phone drift even slightly away from my mouth , immediately people say im breaking up or they just cant hear me ? what the hell good is a damm phone that people cant hear you on ! i can hear them very clearly .. it must just be a crap microphone in the phone
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This worries me. I'm planning to buy the z2 but if people in the other end have issues hearing you then I might pass. It's a shame.
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There should be a speaker voice enhancement option in the call settings menu, not sure whether you've tried this or not but might be worth a shot
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This worries me. I'm planning to buy the z2 but if people in the other end have issues hearing you then I might pass. It's a shame.
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i wouldn't of bought this phone .. trouble is you don't get to test the call quality or anything like that before you buy the phone ! yes now its easy to read this forum about the problems people are having . so wish i had waited and read this forum before i ordered mine. think i will be buying something else in the near future, and try and sell this one
Maybe people should report this to Sony as I don't get any complaints from the receiving end so far. My only complaint is the sound quality of the voice in the earpiece is not rich. The voice lacks low frequency.
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Maybe people should report this to Sony as I don't get any complaints from the receiving end so far. My only complaint is the sound quality of the voice in the earpiece is not rich. The voice lacks low frequency.
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On my handset I constantly have hissing noises during a call and voice breaking up intermittently, but not when I'm on speaker or headphones then it's all crystal clear.
Mine is 14W16 and I've already had it replaced but the problem is still there (replacement device also 14W16).
Does anyone else experience this?
I've already disabled/enabled microphone noise suppression and speaker voice enhancement, but to no effect.
EDIT: My third device (also 14W16) still has this problem, maybe a faulty batch or is it probably a software problem?
EDIT2: Seems to be a software related problem. I have flashed the new 17.1.1.A.0.402 rom and it's almost perfect now.
It seems like a recurring problem...
Hi Guys,
Here's my post on Xperia Care (3 threads dealing with this specific issue):
"I've had the exact same issues since my very first call. I am pretty sure it is a hardware issue and not software or use-related (my phone has never been in contact with water, the issue started in an "out-of-the-box" context and ALL the people I've had over the phone guessed that I changed for a new one just because they could not hear me as clearly as with my former HTC HD2 which I'm starting to deeply regret for this basic use of calling for a phone!).
Searching over the web and through this forum, you can find many people complaining about this problem and saying that a standard exchange did not solve it: would it be a batch problem?? For info, mine is a simlock-free purple model bought in Germany.
Another thing, using noise cancellation is even worse according to my callees so I guess I'll never use this feature, then... All details provided by you guys are described by my friends when I have them on the phone: hissing, hearing me in the distance (muffled sound), hearing their voice in echo (bad Z2 speaker=>mic interaction), vibration (resonance/vibration due to the phone design itself??), hearing like intermittent wind gusts and very very bad sound when I hold the phone between my cheek and shoulder...
As if this would not be bad enough, now the camera application does not record sound anymore when filming (it used to be OK before updating to newer version through PC Companion). Instead of proper sound you hear constant hissing. After a lot of tests I've realised that it now uses the noise cancellation mic instead of the primary one. When running a mic test through Xperia diagnostics menu you can hear back that hissing and no sound at all. Doing the same test through the *#*#7378423#*#* menu gives a different result since I can hear the recording perfectly well (because it is using primary microphone)."
After rebooting my phone, the secondary mic is now working. This leaves me very puzzled now: would it be a software issue in he end??
I'm phoning French Xperia Car hotline tomorrow, keep you posted.
Cheers
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Hi Guys,
Here's my post on Xperia Care (3 threads dealing with this specific issue):
"I've had the exact same issues since my very first call. I am pretty sure it is a hardware issue and not software or use-related (my phone has never been in contact with water, the issue started in an "out-of-the-box" context and ALL the people I've had over the phone guessed that I changed for a new one just because they could not hear me as clearly as with my former HTC HD2 which I'm starting to deeply regret for this basic use of calling for a phone!).
Searching over the web and through this forum, you can find many people complaining about this problem and saying that a standard exchange did not solve it: would it be a batch problem?? For info, mine is a simlock-free purple model bought in Germany.
Another thing, using noise cancellation is even worse according to my callees so I guess I'll never use this feature, then... All details provided by you guys are described by my friends when I have them on the phone: hissing, hearing me in the distance (muffled sound), hearing their voice in echo (bad Z2 speaker=>mic interaction), vibration (resonance/vibration due to the phone design itself??), hearing like intermittent wind gusts and very very bad sound when I hold the phone between my cheek and shoulder...
As if this would not be bad enough, now the camera application does not record sound anymore when filming (it used to be OK before updating to newer version through PC Companion). Instead of proper sound you hear constant hissing. After a lot of tests I've realised that it now uses the noise cancellation mic instead of the primary one. When running a mic test through Xperia diagnostics menu you can hear back that hissing and no sound at all. Doing the same test through the *#*#7378423#*#* menu gives a different result since I can hear the recording perfectly well (because it is using primary microphone)."
After rebooting my phone, the secondary mic is now working. This leaves me very puzzled now: would it be a software issue in he end??
I'm phoning French Xperia Car hotline tomorrow, keep you posted.
Cheers
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Any update on this? I just got this phone for my fiancé and it seems that she's having the same issue. I can't hear well.
Must have something to do with positioning the mic and how far it is from the mouth. More than a design problem than a hardware one methinks.
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Any update on this? I just got this phone for my fiancé and it seems that she's having the same issue. I can't hear well.
Must have something to do with positioning the mic and how far it is from the mouth. More than a design problem than a hardware one methinks.
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Hi SooSpecial,
Xperia Care had no explanation about this; they advised me to file a standard exchange procedure with the seller, which I did.
I'm now waiting for my new device, hoping I won't have the same problem anymore.
If not, I would ask for a refund and go for a G3 instead. That would be a pity because I really like the Z2.
I'd advise you to have your girlfriend's handset changed asap, otherwise you would have to go for a repair procedure w/ Sony, which may take approx. 1 month, leaving you without any replacement smartphone if it was a simlock-free one...
FYI, this problem has also been reported on Xperia Care Forum in 3 threads on Frandroid (french forum) and on some customer reviews on Amazon (as far as I know).
Good luck with that

Xperia Z3 Compact Tablet A Phone?

Hey guys, I was wondering if the new Xperia Z3 Compact Tablet will take calls just like a normal Xperia smartphone.
I ask this because I am considering purchasing a Z Ultra but I prefer an even bigger screen if possible, would the Z3 Compact Tablet also take calls, where I can keep it to my face and talk?
I heard it will require a Bluetooth headset in order for you to use it as a phone.
I am confused as to which one to get, any help would be appreciated!
Canadianomar said:
Hey guys, I was wondering if the new Xperia Z3 Compact Tablet will take calls just like a normal Xperia smartphone.
I ask this because I am considering purchasing a Z Ultra but I prefer an even bigger screen if possible, would the Z3 Compact Tablet also take calls, where I can keep it to my face and talk?
I heard it will require a Bluetooth headset in order for you to use it as a phone.
I am confused as to which one to get, any help would be appreciated!
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This review says it has an earpiece and microphone. Haven't been able to find anything either way from Sony's information.
http://tabtec.com/android/ifa-2014-sony-xperia-z3-tablet-compact-hands-video/
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This review says it has an earpiece and microphone. Haven't been able to find anything either way from Sony's information.
That's strange, because in the video he mentions nothing about a microphone, only that it has two speakers in the front...
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Canadianomar said:
adfurgerson said:
This review says it has an earpiece and microphone. Haven't been able to find anything either way from Sony's information.
That's strange, because in the video he mentions nothing about a microphone, only that it has two speakers in the front...
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Who knows...this one lists "active noise cancelation with dedicated mic".
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_tablet_compact-6633.php
Edit...found three more sites all with differing specs.
1. Phone calls with Bluetooth headset.
2. Microphone yes - mic input 3.5mm
3. Built in microphone - yes
Edit #2.... Attached Sony document which lists audio recording formats, and Google Now.
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Canadianomar said:
Who knows...this one lists "active noise cancelation with dedicated mic".
Edit...found three more sites all with differing specs.
1. Phone calls with Bluetooth headset.
2. Microphone yes - mic input 3.5mm
3. Built in microphone - yes
Edit #2.... Attached Sony document which lists audio recording formats, and Google Now.
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Interesting, thanks for that....But it seems that on the pdf document attached it does not say anything about a microphone, and if this document is from Sony Officially, then It looks like the phone will only work via Bluetooth.
I also lean towards this as Sony would have made this known as a phablet, or at least really stressed in the presentation on Spt 3 at IFA that this can work as a full out phone, because its not a small thing that just gets left out.
I also would assume it cant be used as a "full phone" because I don't think they would just ditch the Z Ultra line completely just like that.
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Canadianomar said:
adfurgerson said:
Interesting, thanks for that....But it seems that on the pdf document attached it does not say anything about a microphone, and if this document is from Sony Officially, then It looks like the phone will only work via Bluetooth.
I also lean towards this as Sony would have made this known as a phablet, or at least really stressed in the presentation on Spt 3 at IFA that this can work as a full out phone, because its not a small thing that just gets left out.
I also would assume it cant be used as a "full phone" because I don't think they would just ditch the Z Ultra line completely just like that.
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It has video recording in camera. Do most tablets record video without audio? I read somewhere that "phablet" is considered to be 5.5 to 7 inch maybe that is why it is called compact tablet. Looked at pdf a little closer and see video chat listed for front camera and speakerphone listed for communication. Also voice I put is listed, seems like they would put an asterisk next to them if bluetooth were required.
Wow just noticed quoting each other is all whacked out, looks like it started with your second post.
The white paper for z3 phone is nearly identical to tablet except for rear camera features (microphone is not mentioned) all the other functions and features appear to be same.
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I was wondering too as all the screenshots show a phone icon. Not sure if they're just mock-ups or not though...
zemblance said:
I was wondering too as all the screenshots show a phone icon. Not sure if they're just mock-ups or not though...
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The LTE version you can send text messages and make calls.
zemblance said:
I was wondering too as all the screenshots show a phone icon. Not sure if they're just mock-ups or not though...
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The hands on videos show it also.
emann56 said:
The LTE version you can send text messages and make calls.
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Right but the question we are trying to answer is whether it has microphone and earpiece on the handset. At least one site claims in their review that a Bluetooth headset is needed for calls.
adfurgerson said:
The hands on videos show it also.
Right but the question we are trying to answer is whether it has microphone and earpiece on the handset. At least one site claims in their review that a Bluetooth headset is needed for calls.
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Just saw this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2zg7hV3XtU#t=240
I don't understand the guy but it appears that he is saying there is an ear piece there although I do not see it.
Sony says on their website that LTE and 4G are not available in all markets for this device as well.
Just have to wait and see I guess.
kable said:
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Just saw this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2zg7hV3XtU#t=240
I don't understand the guy but it appears that he is saying there is an ear piece there although I do not see it.
Sony says on their website that LTE and 4G are not available in all markets for this device as well.
Just have to wait and see I guess.
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By using the term earpiece I only meant to describe call audio routing to top speaker the same as on Z Ultra.
I think they are referring to the bands available from your carrier may not be compatible, not that the device will be unavailable.
I too am interested in this, especially as there's a special offer on the Z3 tablet at the moment in the UK
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/10/1...-tablet-compact-for-under-300-including-case/
according to a comment on the Clove blog
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/10/10/...ompact-arriving-week-commencing-20th-october/
it can be used as a phone, but I would wait until they have their hands on one.
SXZ3TC can be used as a phone, but since he hasn't conversational speaker, just normal speaker, everyone others will hear your interlocutor. Also it hasn't proximity sensor, so won't lock screen. So more advisable use handsfree, especially that one with awesome noise reduction.
So, do you guys plan on using the Z3 Tablet Compact as a phone? I'm not sure what to do really, since my first plan was to use it instead of my Note 2 and iPad. But when I learned that you're unable to place calls like "normal" and have to rely on a separate bluetooth headset, I'm not so sure anymore. What if you forget the headset at home, for example?
I have a hard time believing this thing doesn't have a mic for talking on the phone otherwise how do you Skype, gchat or whatever? I have heard there is no proximity sensor which i can live with because I don't want to put this beast next to my face anyways therefore I don't care about the earpiece part for phone calls. Come on guys, do you guys really want to put this thing up to your face in public? You'll never get laid! HAHAHA. Hopefully the 3.5 jack will do the trick.
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So, do you guys plan on using the Z3 Tablet Compact as a phone? I'm not sure what to do really, since my first plan was to use it instead of my Note 2 and iPad. But when I learned that you're unable to place calls like "normal" and have to rely on a separate bluetooth headset, I'm not so sure anymore. What if you forget the headset at home, for example?
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From reports in the Z3TC forums from European members that have them, it works the same as using phone in speaker mode. Not idea for having private conversations.
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From reports in the Z3TC forums from European members that have them, it works the same as using phone in speaker mode. Not idea for having private conversations.
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You guys will be really popular on public transportation I would so joke around if i knew someone using the Z3TC as their phone. I would call them up at work or in public and ask them for something awkward, like "i need my buttplug back soon" or something.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/11/07/sony-xperia-z3-tablet-compact-review/
"And should you so choose, you could make normal phone calls and send text messages with this. Unless you are particularly socially comfortable a Bluetooth headset might be the best bet."
doesn't say if it has an ear-piece rather than speakerphone feature.
of course, Sony want you to buy a BRH10 and use that as the handset instead
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/remote-and-handset-brh10/
(which would be great, except that it doesn't have a headphone socket nor AptX)

[Poll] Starting to hate the G2

Okay guys, this entire month I have been considering getting rid of my G2. Will try to keep the story short.
About 4 months ago, I sent my G2 (D802) to repair center. Issue was: at times, people could not hear me during calls. They ended up giving me a completely new G2 few months ago. This week alone, I have experienced at least 5 times where people could not hear me. Only workaround when this happens is to turn on speakers (however, everyone next to you will hear the conversation which it is not exactly great).
Getting sick of it. Calls. I repeat, CALLS I can not even make properly with this phone. Everytime I pick up the phone/call someone, I have to wonder if they will be able to hear me.
Currently I am on completely stock unrooted 20H KitKat, I have tried lollipop firmware but the issue remains. Happened on KitKat 20D too. There's a chance the issue is not on Jelly Bean but I have not tested that because I don't really want to be on JB.
I assume I am not the only one on this boat seeing as the issue is reported by a lot. Share thoughts, possible solutions, etc.
@eepyikes @vPro97 join the discussion.
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Are you covering your mic with your finger maybe?It happens easily on g2.
No cover is being used. Pretty darn sure I am not holding anything over the mic. But I'll pay more attention to that from now on.
Look at how many people have reported this issue...
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I have the same 'hate' to the gps of this phone but..this phone is great all is working great and fast after 1y and 4m..only the gps is super weak.
had you think that maybe your signal/phone provider is to blame? if signal is weak you should try another sim card or another place
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had you think that maybe your signal/phone provider is to blame? if signal is weak you should try another sim card or another place
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Nah. Changed provider about two months ago. Same same.
I have an issue when people are not able to hear me, and it always happens if i want my hands to be free and phone is held between my ears and shoulders(Maybe some issue with noise cancelling or misaligned microphone). Otherwise it just works fine.
This may help you....
If you have turn on "Ok Google "detection from any screen!
I have faced similar problems...I thought that was hardware issue but When I turn off that feature My G2 was back on form and now they can hear me properly
Or another way to get rid away of this **** is to try custom rom also......
i have that problem with ANY stock or stock-based rom..... which is why i got fed up and installed CM12 permanently...... the "ok google" detection thing didn't work for me.... i tried taping the top mic but then i ran into random issues where the mic fails if loudspeaker is on.... no such problems with CM...
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i have that problem with ANY stock or stock-based rom..... which is why i got fed up and installed CM12 permanently...... the "ok google" detection thing didn't work for me.... i tried taping the top mic but then i ran into random issues where the mic fails if loudspeaker is on.... no such problems with CM...
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I asked in one thread if CM/AOSP ROMs had the same issue. Never got the answer until now. Thank you. This is probably the only solution.
Personally, I usually prefer stock based ROMs but that is about to change.
Note: disabling "ok Google" to fix it is only a myth. It does not help. Tried that and so did many others.
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and to be honest because of this i hope CM doesn't get the 2nd mic working. lol
It's the Google now detection, open Google now, goto settings and turn off From any screen
Maybe there is some dust or some other stuff in the small holes where the mic is which is making your voice more quiet or almost completely mutes the sound you are trying to record.
You should try and DISABLE Voice enhancement at Settings>Networks>Call..
it helped my whatsapp voice messages to be played clearly
Have had 5 G2s for different reasons and never ran into a Mic problem.
Have even used various Roms from stock JB to KK to Optimus G3.
Am on Tmobile and used nothing but D801s.
All have been white.
Not sure if that helps
There's hope for you if you're able to sell and replace your phone with another used G2 in mint condition
My experience is, once you've done a repair and things look botched, change the phone.
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Have you tried increasing the volume of the mic by editing the mixer_paths.xml.
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I had the same problem after i've bought my G2 last year. Even asked in offical german LG forum but got no answer.
Solution for me was flashing custom kernel (dorimanx). Since that time i've alway been on custom rom (stock and aosp) and never had that problem again.
Wich rev do you have?

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