Hey guys, I was wondering if the new Xperia Z3 Compact Tablet will take calls just like a normal Xperia smartphone.
I ask this because I am considering purchasing a Z Ultra but I prefer an even bigger screen if possible, would the Z3 Compact Tablet also take calls, where I can keep it to my face and talk?
I heard it will require a Bluetooth headset in order for you to use it as a phone.
I am confused as to which one to get, any help would be appreciated!
Canadianomar said:
Hey guys, I was wondering if the new Xperia Z3 Compact Tablet will take calls just like a normal Xperia smartphone.
I ask this because I am considering purchasing a Z Ultra but I prefer an even bigger screen if possible, would the Z3 Compact Tablet also take calls, where I can keep it to my face and talk?
I heard it will require a Bluetooth headset in order for you to use it as a phone.
I am confused as to which one to get, any help would be appreciated!
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This review says it has an earpiece and microphone. Haven't been able to find anything either way from Sony's information.
http://tabtec.com/android/ifa-2014-sony-xperia-z3-tablet-compact-hands-video/
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This review says it has an earpiece and microphone. Haven't been able to find anything either way from Sony's information.
That's strange, because in the video he mentions nothing about a microphone, only that it has two speakers in the front...
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Canadianomar said:
adfurgerson said:
This review says it has an earpiece and microphone. Haven't been able to find anything either way from Sony's information.
That's strange, because in the video he mentions nothing about a microphone, only that it has two speakers in the front...
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Who knows...this one lists "active noise cancelation with dedicated mic".
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_tablet_compact-6633.php
Edit...found three more sites all with differing specs.
1. Phone calls with Bluetooth headset.
2. Microphone yes - mic input 3.5mm
3. Built in microphone - yes
Edit #2.... Attached Sony document which lists audio recording formats, and Google Now.
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Canadianomar said:
Who knows...this one lists "active noise cancelation with dedicated mic".
Edit...found three more sites all with differing specs.
1. Phone calls with Bluetooth headset.
2. Microphone yes - mic input 3.5mm
3. Built in microphone - yes
Edit #2.... Attached Sony document which lists audio recording formats, and Google Now.
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Interesting, thanks for that....But it seems that on the pdf document attached it does not say anything about a microphone, and if this document is from Sony Officially, then It looks like the phone will only work via Bluetooth.
I also lean towards this as Sony would have made this known as a phablet, or at least really stressed in the presentation on Spt 3 at IFA that this can work as a full out phone, because its not a small thing that just gets left out.
I also would assume it cant be used as a "full phone" because I don't think they would just ditch the Z Ultra line completely just like that.
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adfurgerson said:
Interesting, thanks for that....But it seems that on the pdf document attached it does not say anything about a microphone, and if this document is from Sony Officially, then It looks like the phone will only work via Bluetooth.
I also lean towards this as Sony would have made this known as a phablet, or at least really stressed in the presentation on Spt 3 at IFA that this can work as a full out phone, because its not a small thing that just gets left out.
I also would assume it cant be used as a "full phone" because I don't think they would just ditch the Z Ultra line completely just like that.
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It has video recording in camera. Do most tablets record video without audio? I read somewhere that "phablet" is considered to be 5.5 to 7 inch maybe that is why it is called compact tablet. Looked at pdf a little closer and see video chat listed for front camera and speakerphone listed for communication. Also voice I put is listed, seems like they would put an asterisk next to them if bluetooth were required.
Wow just noticed quoting each other is all whacked out, looks like it started with your second post.
The white paper for z3 phone is nearly identical to tablet except for rear camera features (microphone is not mentioned) all the other functions and features appear to be same.
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I was wondering too as all the screenshots show a phone icon. Not sure if they're just mock-ups or not though...
zemblance said:
I was wondering too as all the screenshots show a phone icon. Not sure if they're just mock-ups or not though...
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The LTE version you can send text messages and make calls.
zemblance said:
I was wondering too as all the screenshots show a phone icon. Not sure if they're just mock-ups or not though...
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The hands on videos show it also.
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The LTE version you can send text messages and make calls.
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Right but the question we are trying to answer is whether it has microphone and earpiece on the handset. At least one site claims in their review that a Bluetooth headset is needed for calls.
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The hands on videos show it also.
Right but the question we are trying to answer is whether it has microphone and earpiece on the handset. At least one site claims in their review that a Bluetooth headset is needed for calls.
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Just saw this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2zg7hV3XtU#t=240
I don't understand the guy but it appears that he is saying there is an ear piece there although I do not see it.
Sony says on their website that LTE and 4G are not available in all markets for this device as well.
Just have to wait and see I guess.
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Just saw this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2zg7hV3XtU#t=240
I don't understand the guy but it appears that he is saying there is an ear piece there although I do not see it.
Sony says on their website that LTE and 4G are not available in all markets for this device as well.
Just have to wait and see I guess.
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By using the term earpiece I only meant to describe call audio routing to top speaker the same as on Z Ultra.
I think they are referring to the bands available from your carrier may not be compatible, not that the device will be unavailable.
I too am interested in this, especially as there's a special offer on the Z3 tablet at the moment in the UK
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/10/1...-tablet-compact-for-under-300-including-case/
according to a comment on the Clove blog
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/10/10/...ompact-arriving-week-commencing-20th-october/
it can be used as a phone, but I would wait until they have their hands on one.
SXZ3TC can be used as a phone, but since he hasn't conversational speaker, just normal speaker, everyone others will hear your interlocutor. Also it hasn't proximity sensor, so won't lock screen. So more advisable use handsfree, especially that one with awesome noise reduction.
So, do you guys plan on using the Z3 Tablet Compact as a phone? I'm not sure what to do really, since my first plan was to use it instead of my Note 2 and iPad. But when I learned that you're unable to place calls like "normal" and have to rely on a separate bluetooth headset, I'm not so sure anymore. What if you forget the headset at home, for example?
I have a hard time believing this thing doesn't have a mic for talking on the phone otherwise how do you Skype, gchat or whatever? I have heard there is no proximity sensor which i can live with because I don't want to put this beast next to my face anyways therefore I don't care about the earpiece part for phone calls. Come on guys, do you guys really want to put this thing up to your face in public? You'll never get laid! HAHAHA. Hopefully the 3.5 jack will do the trick.
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So, do you guys plan on using the Z3 Tablet Compact as a phone? I'm not sure what to do really, since my first plan was to use it instead of my Note 2 and iPad. But when I learned that you're unable to place calls like "normal" and have to rely on a separate bluetooth headset, I'm not so sure anymore. What if you forget the headset at home, for example?
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From reports in the Z3TC forums from European members that have them, it works the same as using phone in speaker mode. Not idea for having private conversations.
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From reports in the Z3TC forums from European members that have them, it works the same as using phone in speaker mode. Not idea for having private conversations.
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You guys will be really popular on public transportation I would so joke around if i knew someone using the Z3TC as their phone. I would call them up at work or in public and ask them for something awkward, like "i need my buttplug back soon" or something.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/11/07/sony-xperia-z3-tablet-compact-review/
"And should you so choose, you could make normal phone calls and send text messages with this. Unless you are particularly socially comfortable a Bluetooth headset might be the best bet."
doesn't say if it has an ear-piece rather than speakerphone feature.
of course, Sony want you to buy a BRH10 and use that as the handset instead
http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/remote-and-handset-brh10/
(which would be great, except that it doesn't have a headphone socket nor AptX)
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I'm looking for a Bluetooth remote to use in my car, to control my G1 when it's hooked up as a music player. This is both a safety and convenience concern.
The starting point is finding a remote control that transmits Bluetooth directly to the G1 (i.e., not infrared or wired). It needs, at a minimum, a forward and a stop button. Reverse, pause, and other functions are nice, but not mandatory.
The other half of the solution is software to control the media program in Android, which may or may not already exist; if not, I'll commission someone to write it. Maybe I can even offer a turnkey system for sale if there's enough interest.
I know someone's will say "search the forums", and I did. What I found seemed to be focus on wired remotes for another HTC phone, or remote controlling your PC with your phone. But if I missed a relevant post, please do correct me.
Ideas are greatly appreciated.
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there is a remote for gaming used for the n95 i saw on a website it worked for android on a basic level. maybe that might help. in the development of this
Found this on another thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Wc0KqnW2M that some people are using. Jabra BT3030
Aux cable from car stereo plugged into remote. Remote paired with phone. Not *completely wireless* but atleast you don't have to look at your phone.
Does that get you anywhere?
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Found this on another thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Wc0KqnW2M that some people are using. Jabra BT3030
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Hmm, I posted a reply to this, but it isn't showing up. Maybe forgot to submit.
Anyway, thanks for pointing this out. I had seen this a long time ago and forgot all about it. That's exactly the kind of thing I want. Here's the instruction manual, for anyone else who might be interested. It's about US$55.
The only problem I see here is that it'll register as a headset and thereby disable the sound coming out of the extUSB connector in the car.
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there is a remote for gaming used for the n95 i saw on a website it worked for android on a basic level. maybe that might help. in the development of this
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It's the Zeemote JS1, and this blog has a video showing it interacting with a G1. This may ultimately be what I'd have to go with... it seems to be designed solely as a controller, without A2DP getting in the way. But looks like it needs some kind of interfacing software, at least on the Nokia. At US$20, I should just get one and play around with it. Cheaper than buying another car stereo with BT built in.
Dual Infrared + Bluetooth Remotes
FWIW, I ran across two rare, interesting items.
One is the RicaVision Vave 100 Universal Remote. Unfortunately, it's $349... but in theory, it would control both your car stereo (via infrared, which the majority of remotes use) and the G1 (via Bluetooth). It's able to "learn" commands from 24 infrared devices, and has a 2.4" 240x320 color LCD screen. No PC or internet connection is needed for configuration.
The screenshots show artist/track info being received from Windows, so it's Media PC-oriented, but still a possibility -- assuming you could program it accordingly. If so, just carry it back and forth between home and car: use it inside for your TV and PC, outside for the car stereo and G1.
The other device is the Ricavision SideShow Remote for the same price, also having IR + BT transmitters. This is purpose-built for Windows SideShow, and has fewer buttons -- volume, play/pause, prev/next, etc. It's smaller than the Vave, but still has a 2.5" QVGA screen. This is perfect for my car setup, but there doesn't seem to be a learning mode or any way to program, so the chances of it working are about zero. Boo!
try the jabra 3030 (dogtag) theyre about $15 on ebay
Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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yep they're pretty good once you get a working one
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Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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Thats what im running right now. works pretty good battery is def not what its said to be though.
Do0zman said:
Thats what im running right now. works pretty good battery is def not what its said to be though.
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mabye you got a faulty one like i did because the first one i got had a 10 minuite battery life lol
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Apparently some people have had luck with this one:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8422
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If that worked in my case it'd be perfect, and it's the smallest form factor yet. The only problem I foresee with this and the Jabra is that they'll want to subvert my wired headphone output over to A2DP. But for $13 I'll probably take a chance.
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yep they're pretty good once you get a working one
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Yeah, buying directly from mainland China, you never know what you'll get -- and if it doesn't work, it's usually pointless return it. But I've bought stuff from DealExtreme before, and dirt cheap, too. Back when I had this flashlight habit....
[OT] Counterfeits
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try the jabra 3030 (dogtag) theyre about $15 on ebay
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Well, I finally bought a Jabra from there. I'll play with it and report back on whether it'll work like I wanted above.
Meanwhile, I didn't realize until looking more closely that most of them were fake. I've been burned by counterfeits before, and sure enough, there are a ton of them on fleaBay. I made this graphic to demonstrate:
Aside from the logos, they look identical. Price is an obvious warning, but not always. Location is another: I'm wary of shipping from Hong Kong. OTOH, just because it says Jabra doesn't mean it's real... the Motorola H700 is another example where it's nearly impossible to tell them apart online.
Unfortunately, even with VeRO and the rules against keyword spamming, this junk can be found all over eBay.
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Well, I finally bought a Jabra from there. I'll play with it and report back on whether it'll work like I wanted above.
Meanwhile, I didn't realize until looking more closely that most of them were fake. I've been burned by counterfeits before, and sure enough, there are a ton of them on fleaBay. I made this graphic to demonstrate:
Aside from the logos, they look identical. Price is an obvious warning, but not always. Location is another: I'm wary of shipping from Hong Kong. OTOH, just because it says Jabra doesn't mean it's real... the Motorola H700 is another example where it's nearly impossible to tell them apart online.
Unfortunately, even with VeRO and the rules against keyword spamming, this junk can be found all over eBay.
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I just got a pair of these and thanks to your illustration, I'm convinced mine are counterfeit works well with all my other phones but the G1.
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I just got a pair of these and thanks to your illustration, I'm convinced mine are counterfeit works well with all my other phones but the G1.
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In theory, if it's able to connect to one phone's A2DP, it should connect to any. But I wonder if it has something to do with the ROM you're running?
I've noticed the G1 needs some finesse when connecting and pairing BT. Also, there are different steps you can take that all arrive at the same result (ergo, lots of trial and error).
Anyway. Now that I have the Jabra, my next problem is keeping A2DP, HSP and AVRCP separate... more on that soon.
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In theory, if it's able to connect to one phone's A2DP, it should connect to any. But I wonder if it has something to do with the ROM you're running?
I've noticed the G1 needs some finesse when connecting and pairing BT. Also, there are different steps you can take that all arrive at the same result (ergo, lots of trial and error).
Anyway. Now that I have the Jabra, my next problem is keeping A2DP, HSP and AVRCP separate... more on that soon.
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Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)?
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Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)?
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no skips from BT. see my configuration in my sig.
skesseks said:
no skips from BT. see my configuration in my sig.
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Here is my config see attached. I have tested this with different ROMS ranging from tmobile CRB 43 stock to current xRom. I also have a motorola s9 which works with my G1 with no problems.
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I have tested this with different ROMS ranging from tmobile CRB 43 stock to current xRom. I also have a motorola s9 which works with my G1 with no problems.
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It's strange that it works with one phone and not another. But if it really is a counterfeit, all bets are off -- you may never figure it out.
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Here is whats interesting; I have tried the BT3030 with several ROMS and I get the same results (I even tried it on stock and then rooted). When paired placing and receiving calls work fine. The problem arises when you try to listen to music, the sound skips constantly and I haven't figured a way to fix this permanently. Do you experience this problem (skipping sound)?
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I got 3 knockoff bt3030s back in october (from dinodirect... shady) at $15/ea it was an ok price...
I too have the skipping problems on my Droid, but I just discovered how to fix them. Go into bluetooth settings, long-press the jabra bt3030 device, select options, and deselect phone audio and reconnect the device. Now, no more skips.
I don't know if it's the bt3030's fault, I think it might be an android bug where audio gets routed over phone audio instead of a2dp. This is evidenced by the skipping audio--headset audio only has something like 8khz of bandwidth.
It kind of sucks that phone audio has to be disabled, but in all seriousness, I use the bt3030 for a2dp far more than phone calls, if I need to make a phone call over the bt3030, I'll reconnect the phone audio and disconnect it when I'm done.
Don't know if anyone still cares, but for the record, and for searchers, there are these options:
http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/217/sfID2/341/productID/1937
http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/217/sfID2/219/productID/1938
Both of these are very expensive though as they are part of large packages for cars. YMMV.
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I sent back my first Xperia Tablet Z because the microphone was extremely quiet in Skype and voice recording apps and all sorts. I had to speak directly into the top of the device to be heard. The 4.2 update from Sony improves matters, but pretty much just seems to up the gain. Quality still isn't great, but it is at least usable.
I got a replacement and it has exactly the same problem.
Can anyone with this tablet who's running either Sony's 4.1 software or any AOSP-based ROM (Cyanogenmod and the like) please test the microphone for me? It's very noticeable on anything besides Sony's 4.2, which seems to compensate somewhat.
You don't need to make me a recording or anything, just tell me if you can hear yourself if you do a Skype test call or quick voice recording or something (ideally when speaking at the front of the tablet as if you were on a video call, not speaking into the microphone on top). If your tablet is like mine, you will also hear some loud noises whenever you shift your grip.
Basically I'm trying to ascertain once and for all whether this is an isolated issue to the two tablets I've had, or whether the microphone is just a bit terrible on all of them. This'll determine whether I give Sony another chance to replace it or give up and get myself a Nexus 10.
Also let me know if you have an SGP321 or SGP31x. Mine's the latter.
Any replies and assistance very much appreciated. I put in a poll so we can get some quick results but I'd prefer thread replies and maybe we can get a bit of a useful discussion going.
Thanks.
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Hi.
I sent back my first Xperia Tablet Z because the microphone was extremely quiet in Skype and voice recording apps and all sorts. I had to speak directly into the top of the device to be heard. The 4.2 update from Sony improves matters, but pretty much just seems to up the gain. Quality still isn't great, but it is at least usable.
I got a replacement and it has exactly the same problem.
Can anyone with this tablet who's running either Sony's 4.1 software or any AOSP-based ROM (Cyanogenmod and the like) please test the microphone for me? It's very noticeable on anything besides Sony's 4.2, which seems to compensate somewhat.
You don't need to make me a recording or anything, just tell me if you can hear yourself if you do a Skype test call or quick voice recording or something (ideally when speaking at the front of the tablet as if you were on a video call, not speaking into the microphone on top). If your tablet is like mine, you will also hear some loud noises whenever you shift your grip.
Basically I'm trying to ascertain once and for all whether this is an isolated issue to the two tablets I've had, or whether the microphone is just a bit terrible on all of them. This'll determine whether I give Sony another chance to replace it or give up and get myself a Nexus 10.
Also let me know if you have an SGP321 or SGP31x. Mine's the latter.
Any replies and assistance very much appreciated. I put in a poll so we can get some quick results but I'd prefer thread replies and maybe we can get a bit of a useful discussion going.
Thanks.
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It depends; with the voice recorder and Skype application it hardly seems to pick up any of my voice. But I never have problems with Google Voice search picking up my voice and I downloaded an audio spectrum analyzer tool that seems to show me that the microphone is getting good response.
Same problem here. The microphone barely registers any sound at all. Can't use it with a voice recorder or IPphone app.
Is there a setting or something to increase microphone sensitivity or is that just something Sony users have to live with?
Thanks!
Hmm... Not just me, then.
As far as I can tell, it's something we have to live with. Sony's 4.2.2 update improved matters somewhat, but the quality still sucks and you can forget Skype on AOSP ROMs for the time being.
Oh well. Thanks for voting. I was considering sending my tablet back for a replacement again but if everyone has this problem to some degree then it's not worth it. Weird how the initial reviews of the device praised the microphone though (and that was on 4.1).
I've decided to stick with the tablet for the time being, though. It's just so thin and light and waterproof. Just have to live with Sony's software and a sucky microphone I guess.
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Hi...
I got a xperia z2 prototye. model 6503.
Everything is working fine, except the call quality. i can hear and understand very well, but the other person has echoes, and very bad sound..
When I use a heatset, there is no problem. and it is almost good, when I put the phone on the table, with speaker on. The problem is worst, when I hold the phone on my ear..
Is it a hard- or software related problem?
I´m now on 17.1.A.2.55
THX
Since others have not complained about this issue, it looks like a hardware issue. Maybe your microphone is faulty?
Take it to Sony and get it checked.
I did some voice recording, and it is brilliant.
Try turning off the noise cancellation feature during calls, and see if there's a difference.
Well it's a prototype so who knows...
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I have a very similar issue I posted about in my thread...
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As you read in my thread my voice recording is anything but brilliant......what did you use for your testing?
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Try turning off the noise cancellation feature during calls, and see if there's a difference.
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I first became concerned when I recorded an outgoing message for the phone's default answering machine...As a test I download a voice recording app that let me turn off noise suppression/cancellation.
It brought it from unusable to usable, still not good. But I think your suggestion is a good one, I just don't see why a software tweak improves on something that seems more like a hardware problem. I say that because I can't find a single thing on the web aside from these two posts stating any concerns about it.
This is killing me...turning off noise cancellation only improves the quality in that particular app. Turning it off in the Call settings didn't change anything. I can't record an acceptable answering machine greeting no matter what I do.
EDIT- I also have unlocked my bootloader and thusly lost my DRM Keys... OP has a prototype Z2, perhaps something there?
Same problem here, and mine is not a proto
my nephew and my gf got Z2 too, and same problem...
we hear wel, they can't hear us clearly
Considering that the quality of sound that comes out of the speakers when we hear music, it sure is software problem! In Xperia Z was the same thing in its release!
non proto:
when I'm on earpiece, the caller will always be breaking up. I'll have to disconnect and return the call before everything's crispy again. though there are times they'll complain of not hearing me properly. turning off the "background noise" option seems to help but they'll tell me it's noisy as fuuu.
lol hoping for a software fix I guess.
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i have had a problem with people being able to hear me clearly ! if i let the phone even drift slightly away from my mouth people say they cant hear me or im breaking up ! ! i had a GS2 before this phone and never had a problem like this . this to me is a hell of a major flaw ... if you struggle to use a mobile phone as what it is designed to do .. then it aint worth a s**t ! i have to keep the phone pressed up against the side of my face all the time im using it ... i cant just wedge it under my chin like i used to do with the old phone. maybe if i root and install a custom ROM it would help this issue ???
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i have had a problem with people being able to hear me clearly ! if i let the phone even drift slightly away from my mouth people say they cant hear me or im breaking up ! ! i had a GS2 before this phone and never had a problem like this . this to me is a hell of a major flaw ... if you struggle to use a mobile phone as what it is designed to do .. then it aint worth a s**t ! i have to keep the phone pressed up against the side of my face all the time im using it ... i cant just wedge it under my chin like i used to do with the old phone. maybe if i root and install a custom ROM it would help this issue ???
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First time I've seen my problem described to the letter. It's especially bad when I hold the phone with my chin and no hands. I turned off noise cancelation under phone settings and people stopped complaining however a few people complained of an echo... Lose, lose. Btw, I'm rooted with a custom ROM and nothing has changed.
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First time I've seen my problem described to the letter. It's especially bad when I hold the phone with my chin and no hands. I turned off noise cancelation under phone settings and people stopped complaining however a few people complained of an echo... Lose, lose. Btw, I'm rooted with a custom ROM and nothing has changed.
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oh .. i thought rooting and a custom ROM would solve this problem ! i also have noise cancellation switched off .. but still if i let this phone drift even slightly away from my mouth , immediately people say im breaking up or they just cant hear me ? what the hell good is a damm phone that people cant hear you on ! i can hear them very clearly .. it must just be a crap microphone in the phone
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oh .. i thought rooting and a custom ROM would solve this problem ! i also have noise cancellation switched off .. but still if i let this phone drift even slightly away from my mouth , immediately people say im breaking up or they just cant hear me ? what the hell good is a damm phone that people cant hear you on ! i can hear them very clearly .. it must just be a crap microphone in the phone
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This worries me. I'm planning to buy the z2 but if people in the other end have issues hearing you then I might pass. It's a shame.
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There should be a speaker voice enhancement option in the call settings menu, not sure whether you've tried this or not but might be worth a shot
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This worries me. I'm planning to buy the z2 but if people in the other end have issues hearing you then I might pass. It's a shame.
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i wouldn't of bought this phone .. trouble is you don't get to test the call quality or anything like that before you buy the phone ! yes now its easy to read this forum about the problems people are having . so wish i had waited and read this forum before i ordered mine. think i will be buying something else in the near future, and try and sell this one
Maybe people should report this to Sony as I don't get any complaints from the receiving end so far. My only complaint is the sound quality of the voice in the earpiece is not rich. The voice lacks low frequency.
goodpenguin said:
Maybe people should report this to Sony as I don't get any complaints from the receiving end so far. My only complaint is the sound quality of the voice in the earpiece is not rich. The voice lacks low frequency.
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On my handset I constantly have hissing noises during a call and voice breaking up intermittently, but not when I'm on speaker or headphones then it's all crystal clear.
Mine is 14W16 and I've already had it replaced but the problem is still there (replacement device also 14W16).
Does anyone else experience this?
I've already disabled/enabled microphone noise suppression and speaker voice enhancement, but to no effect.
EDIT: My third device (also 14W16) still has this problem, maybe a faulty batch or is it probably a software problem?
EDIT2: Seems to be a software related problem. I have flashed the new 17.1.1.A.0.402 rom and it's almost perfect now.
It seems like a recurring problem...
Hi Guys,
Here's my post on Xperia Care (3 threads dealing with this specific issue):
"I've had the exact same issues since my very first call. I am pretty sure it is a hardware issue and not software or use-related (my phone has never been in contact with water, the issue started in an "out-of-the-box" context and ALL the people I've had over the phone guessed that I changed for a new one just because they could not hear me as clearly as with my former HTC HD2 which I'm starting to deeply regret for this basic use of calling for a phone!).
Searching over the web and through this forum, you can find many people complaining about this problem and saying that a standard exchange did not solve it: would it be a batch problem?? For info, mine is a simlock-free purple model bought in Germany.
Another thing, using noise cancellation is even worse according to my callees so I guess I'll never use this feature, then... All details provided by you guys are described by my friends when I have them on the phone: hissing, hearing me in the distance (muffled sound), hearing their voice in echo (bad Z2 speaker=>mic interaction), vibration (resonance/vibration due to the phone design itself??), hearing like intermittent wind gusts and very very bad sound when I hold the phone between my cheek and shoulder...
As if this would not be bad enough, now the camera application does not record sound anymore when filming (it used to be OK before updating to newer version through PC Companion). Instead of proper sound you hear constant hissing. After a lot of tests I've realised that it now uses the noise cancellation mic instead of the primary one. When running a mic test through Xperia diagnostics menu you can hear back that hissing and no sound at all. Doing the same test through the *#*#7378423#*#* menu gives a different result since I can hear the recording perfectly well (because it is using primary microphone)."
After rebooting my phone, the secondary mic is now working. This leaves me very puzzled now: would it be a software issue in he end??
I'm phoning French Xperia Car hotline tomorrow, keep you posted.
Cheers
Guillaume59000 said:
Hi Guys,
Here's my post on Xperia Care (3 threads dealing with this specific issue):
"I've had the exact same issues since my very first call. I am pretty sure it is a hardware issue and not software or use-related (my phone has never been in contact with water, the issue started in an "out-of-the-box" context and ALL the people I've had over the phone guessed that I changed for a new one just because they could not hear me as clearly as with my former HTC HD2 which I'm starting to deeply regret for this basic use of calling for a phone!).
Searching over the web and through this forum, you can find many people complaining about this problem and saying that a standard exchange did not solve it: would it be a batch problem?? For info, mine is a simlock-free purple model bought in Germany.
Another thing, using noise cancellation is even worse according to my callees so I guess I'll never use this feature, then... All details provided by you guys are described by my friends when I have them on the phone: hissing, hearing me in the distance (muffled sound), hearing their voice in echo (bad Z2 speaker=>mic interaction), vibration (resonance/vibration due to the phone design itself??), hearing like intermittent wind gusts and very very bad sound when I hold the phone between my cheek and shoulder...
As if this would not be bad enough, now the camera application does not record sound anymore when filming (it used to be OK before updating to newer version through PC Companion). Instead of proper sound you hear constant hissing. After a lot of tests I've realised that it now uses the noise cancellation mic instead of the primary one. When running a mic test through Xperia diagnostics menu you can hear back that hissing and no sound at all. Doing the same test through the *#*#7378423#*#* menu gives a different result since I can hear the recording perfectly well (because it is using primary microphone)."
After rebooting my phone, the secondary mic is now working. This leaves me very puzzled now: would it be a software issue in he end??
I'm phoning French Xperia Car hotline tomorrow, keep you posted.
Cheers
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Any update on this? I just got this phone for my fiancé and it seems that she's having the same issue. I can't hear well.
Must have something to do with positioning the mic and how far it is from the mouth. More than a design problem than a hardware one methinks.
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Any update on this? I just got this phone for my fiancé and it seems that she's having the same issue. I can't hear well.
Must have something to do with positioning the mic and how far it is from the mouth. More than a design problem than a hardware one methinks.
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Hi SooSpecial,
Xperia Care had no explanation about this; they advised me to file a standard exchange procedure with the seller, which I did.
I'm now waiting for my new device, hoping I won't have the same problem anymore.
If not, I would ask for a refund and go for a G3 instead. That would be a pity because I really like the Z2.
I'd advise you to have your girlfriend's handset changed asap, otherwise you would have to go for a repair procedure w/ Sony, which may take approx. 1 month, leaving you without any replacement smartphone if it was a simlock-free one...
FYI, this problem has also been reported on Xperia Care Forum in 3 threads on Frandroid (french forum) and on some customer reviews on Amazon (as far as I know).
Good luck with that
Very weird situation happen only when i use viber between Sony z2 and Galaxy note 3 ,, every time i speak beeps sounds very loud coming out from headphone or from speakers when i use speakers. it only happen when i call my wife she has the Note 3 and i have the Z2,, it never happen with all other phones from my side and her side as well,, both phones are not rooted and everything original out the box,, Sony Z2 with .402 update and Note 3 with 4.4 Kitkat.
If anyone have this weird issue please comment here ...its very very annoying problems ,, i can't speak well in viber
Same issue
Yess..I have the exact same situation with my wife, my Z2 same as yours (same firmware as well) and she is having the note 3.
Can you please tell me if you found any solution?
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Yess..I have the exact same situation with my wife, my Z2 same as yours (same firmware as well) and she is having the note 3.
Can you please tell me if you found any solution?
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Finally someone comment here. unfortunately I didn't find any solution to this annoying problem yet. neither i found another posts online or someone have this issue. if i find a solution or at least know the reason why then i will post it here, please do same so.
How are you finding the sound quality on Viber on the Z2?
I find it to be very quiet & I can barely hear the person I'm talking to & they can barely hear me, emailed Viber support but they weren't much use even though I pointed out that Viber on old Galaxy S3 was nice & loud in both voice & notifications sounds but on the Z2 it is way too quiet, tried Line & the sound is good on that but the app is bloated & the smileys are crap lol.
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How are you finding the sound quality on Viber on the Z2?
I find it to be very quiet & I can barely hear the person I'm talking to & they can barely hear me, emailed Viber support but they weren't much use even though I pointed out that Viber on old Galaxy S3 was nice & loud in both voice & notifications sounds but on the Z2 it is way too quiet, tried Line & the sound is good on that but the app is bloated & the smileys are crap lol.
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Same here. the sound quality is crap. very low sound.. when I am outside i open speaker and put it on my ear and barely can hear the sound.. And the sound of beeps always happen even with speaker on. I had before samsung phone galaxy mega 6.3 and the sound was awesome. Am thinking to buy bluetooth headset to use it instead of the phone
Yeah same here mate, even using it in speaker phone mode the sound is way too quiet & muffled. I'm gonna email their support again, would suggest you do the same. The more reports & complaints they get about it will make them do something about it.
http://support.viber.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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Yeah same here mate, even using it in speaker phone mode the sound is way too quiet & muffled. I'm gonna email their support again, would suggest you do the same. The more reports & complaints they get about it will make them do something about it.
http://support.viber.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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I have sent email to them, hopefully they will reply and fix it.
Cheers mate, post back when they reply to you & I will do the same. Sorry for hijacking the thread BTW
BanziBaby said:
Cheers mate, post back when they reply to you & I will do the same. Sorry for hijacking the thread BTW
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Any update? I am having same issue. Voice recordings in Viber are very poor. I have contacted online Sony support. And actually it happens not only in Viber. And they told me it's hardware issue. And advised to do firmware restore and hardreset. But my wife has Z2 too with same issues and both phones from different countries, different stores. May be Sony uses new way to record sounds or poor support of microphones in API.
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Any update? I am having same issue. Voice recordings in Viber are very poor. I have contacted online Sony support. And actually it happens not only in Viber. And they told me it's hardware issue. And advised to do firmware restore and hardreset. But my wife has Z2 too with same issues and both phones from different countries, different stores. May be Sony uses new way to record sounds or poor support of microphones in API.
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Did you do firmware restore and hardreset ? if so did it fix it ?
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Did you do firmware restore and hardreset ? if so did it fix it ?
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No. I didn't do any of those yet.
OK, guys, just did software repair. Nothing changed. Don't go for it and don't waste your time.
Well I emailed Viber support about the 4th-5th Sept & only got a reply from them yesterday about a month & a half later asking me to install a debug version that will wipe my message history, they suggest to email message history but AFAIK there is no way to restore it.
Pretty pathetic support if you ask me.
at least it's good they replied you.. They didn't reply me till now and it has been more than a month.. now am thinking to buy bluetooth headset just to get rid of this annoying problem but then even with bluetooth headset you can't answer viber calls directly like normal calls.. i read on other threads someone from viber support team said they don't yet support bluetooth headset.. as if viber not everyone use it and majority use normal calls. it's really ridiculous
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install a debug version that will wipe my message history, they suggest to email message history but AFAIK there is no way to restore it.
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Root and backup data. Then restore data after you install the new version?
Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk
Yeah I can use MyBackup Pro to back up the viber data but after restoring it viber won't even open & just force closes right away.
I really liked using the "Okay Google Everywhere" on my previous device and I was looking forward to using it on the Z Ultra, but ever since I first activated it I am finding that it gets my voice queries wrong a lot and that I have to hold the phone a lot closer to my face.
Is there a fix for this or is it simply because of the water-proofing that covers the microphones?
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I really liked using the "Okay Google Everywhere" on my previous device and I was looking forward to using it on the Z Ultra, but ever since I first activated it I am finding that it gets my voice queries wrong a lot and that I have to hold the phone a lot closer to my face.
Is there a fix for this or is it simply because of the water-proofing that covers the microphones?
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I suspect you have it correct. I've not had too many issues while using it (other than battery drain when 'everywhere' is enabled), it even copes with my weird NZ accent.
It'll be intresting to see if others have issues with the 'waterproof' mic
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I suspect you have it correct. I've not had too many issues while using it (other than battery drain when 'everywhere' is enabled), it even copes with my weird NZ accent.
It'll be intresting to see if others have issues with the 'waterproof' mic
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How close do you have to hold it to your face? On my old phone (Atrix HD), I could trigger a voice search with my phone lying on my desk about 3 feet away from me, but the Z Ultra needs to be held about five inches from my face for it to pick up my commands accurately.
I use AutoVoice so voice search is something I use a lot.
normally use it in hand, so about 1+ ft
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normally use it in hand, so about 1+ ft
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Hmm, how loud do you have to speak for it to register? I'm used to speaking in a normal/quiet tone if I hold it one foot away, but for the Z Ultra I need to raise my voice a little bit higher.
The microphone that receives voice command input is the bottom one, while the top one does not react. I wonder why? I would think the top microphone should be the one receiving voice commands.
Do you think it could be possible to enable both microphones on the phone to listen after the initial "Okay, Google" is performed, or would that not work/cause problems?
I haven't had my xperia z ultra for a while but still browse the threads. I don't no if someone could try this though I no it is a completely different phone but still the idea might help.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2805568
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I haven't had my xperia z ultra for a while but still browse the threads. I don't no if someone could try this though I no it is a completely different phone but still the idea might help.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2805568
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I looked that up and saw that, too, but the Z Ultra's mixer_paths.XML doesn't have the Analog Input Devices anywhere on it.
Here it is. It has some microphone devices listed, though:
http://pastebin.com/BHZ0Z7t1
Also, Pimped Kernel has options to change the audio volume gain for the microphone, but it doesn't seem to help.
Alright, so, I found this thread. Turns out you do have to edit the mixer_paths.XML. It's just not the same variables that need to be changed as the OnePlus. Following the thread helped the voice search on my phone a lot.
I'm posting this for future reference.
I flashed the Lollipop GPe port and now the microphone is wonderfully sensitive. I can activate voice search from across the room.
It's way better than how it was before on KitKat custom ROMs, even after I edited the mixer_paths.XML. I don't know if the stock ROM and KitKat GPe are also this sensitive, but they probably are.
Anyone know why this is?
I really would like the microphone to be this good on CM 12 and other custom ROMs.
My guess is Sony uses special drivers that are probably not open source for the microphone, since it also has that noise canceling mic.
Update: Mic back to all it's former glory
On the latest Resurrection Remix Lollipop build with the latest Lollipop PA Nano Gapps, the mic is perfectly sensitive again.
I'm pretty happy about this so I just thought I'd share that here.
I don't know who fixed it, Google or a dev, but thank you to whoever it was.