For all people out there worried about Android L
update,
Our device specs definitely supports L. The only
problem is the less internal storage we have
As Android L will run only on ART more storage is
required and upgrade will consume more memory.
We will have less internal storage.
One good hope is with Android L a better ART which
consumes less memory (as art was beta in KitKat, it was not completely flawless.
Android L is going to be a major update by Google in recent years,
so Motorola is now testing few builds related to Android L (not the original L as its not released) to see if it can sustain the major update.
But one this is for sure we will have a lot less internal storage I guess.
But in the END in am Confident #Motorola will release
Android L for us. I hope you understood my point.
We will surely get Android L
No idea how Motorola will manage space issue in Moto E. Currently with default apps itself its taking around 1.2-1.3 GB of internal memory . If we change to ART run time available space will become around 200 MB. Not sure how they will manage that.. Hope beta version ART only have this issue
yes it may be a issue with the beta build/...and motorola may change something in the android l for moto e..so that sd card memory can be used and reduce usage of internal..may be...lets see what happens
My hope as always is not with OEMs, but with independent developers who will release a L based custom ROM.
ART and the lack of space in our devices is indeed a problem, let's just see how optimized it becomes on the final build.
Sent from my XT1021
Or may be Android One for moto e next "major" update.
Google’s first super cheap ‘Android One’ phones may debut in September
Read more:*http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/google-android-one-launch-september-india/#ixzz3APtbWrTR*
Dhiraj said:
Or may be Android One for moto e next "major" update.
Google’s first super cheap ‘Android One’ phones may debut in September
Read more:*http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/google-android-one-launch-september-india/#ixzz3APtbWrTR*
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Moto E will never get Android One for sure.
raj.amalw said:
We will surely get Android L
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yes we will
SirRhor said:
My hope as always is not with OEMs, but with independent developers who will release a L based custom ROM.
ART and the lack of space in our devices is indeed a problem, let's just see how optimized it becomes on the final build.
Sent from my XT1021
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Google will definitely optimise it to take lesser space
Moreover Android L will support permission to SD card
it has been acknowledged in their developer site. so we just need patience
let the time pass.
-Adarsh- said:
yes it may be a issue with the beta build/...and motorola may change something in the android l for moto e..so that sd card memory can be used and reduce usage of internal..may be...lets see what happens
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Changes in Android L —
SD card permission granted (for apps)
better art (faster and optimised for less space)
So we have more than 90% chance to get L
AnishTS said:
No idea how Motorola will manage space issue in Moto E. Currently with default apps itself its taking around 1.2-1.3 GB of internal memory . If we change to ART run time available space will become around 200 MB. Not sure how they will manage that.. Hope beta version ART only have this issue
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new in android L
SD card permission granted (for apps)
better art (faster and optimised for less space)
so we will get L more than 90% sure
still let's see
let some time pass.
Everything depends on the final build of L, how much google will optimize art to run on low space devices .That's why it is not still confirmed for E.
OMG
OMG you made me so happy telling that sd card permission will be back..wwooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.....yaaahhhoooooo......
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OMG you made me so happy telling that sd card permission will be back..wwooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.....yaaahhhoooooo......
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you are welcome
Dhiraj said:
Everything depends on the final build of L, how much google will optimize art to run on low space devices .That's why it is not still confirmed for E.
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just to create speculation Motorola is not confirming
suddenly after sometime they will confirm and all will say Motorola is such a great company. part of business.
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just to create speculation Motorola is not confirming
suddenly after sometime they will confirm and all will say Motorola is such a great company. part of business.[/QUOT]
Google one is coming in next month .Final build of L may be in November. In between that Micromax like company will release One based device within 10K INR . So, there will be tough competition for Motorola.
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Dhiraj said:
@SidDev said:
just to create speculation Motorola is not confirming
suddenly after sometime they will confirm and all will say Motorola is such a great company. part of business.[/QUOT]
Google one is coming in next month .Final build of L may be in November. In between that Micromax like company will release One based device within 10K INR . So, there will be tough competition for Motorola.
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tough competition will lead to update to make moto e interesting
you think and BTW its Android one and not google one.
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The development of 4.3 for our phones began as most of you are aware but I would like to make a suggestion.The next iteration of Android,KitKat is optimized to run smoothly on devices with 512mb RAM (Sola,U,Go),it's called Project Svelte or something like that.I'm grateful that master Munjeni is working so hard for our devices but I say he should just skip 4.3 and go directly to 4.4 and help him by testing,detailing and fixing bugs,etcetera.If this so called Project Svelte really does what it says we're gonna have a new phone! What do you think?
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The development of 4.3 for our phones began as most of you are aware but I would like to make a suggestion.The next iteration of Android,KitKat is optimized to run smoothly on devices with 512mb RAM (Sola,U,Go),it's called Project Svelte or something like that.I'm grateful that master Munjeni is working so hard for our devices but I say he should just skip 4.3 and go directly to 4.4 and help him by testing,detailing and fixing bugs,etcetera.If this so called Project Svelte really does what it says we're gonna have a new phone! What do you think?
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Your wish has been granted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47010626
MetalheadAndroid said:
The development of 4.3 for our phones began as most of you are aware but I would like to make a suggestion.The next iteration of Android,KitKat is optimized to run smoothly on devices with 512mb RAM (Sola,U,Go),it's called Project Svelte or something like that.I'm grateful that master Munjeni is working so hard for our devices but I say he should just skip 4.3 and go directly to 4.4 and help him by testing,detailing and fixing bugs,etcetera.If this so called Project Svelte really does what it says we're gonna have a new phone! What do you think?
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I agree with you, and so does Munjeni apparently
He has mentioned in the Go forums that he is stopping development for 4.3 and starting on 4.4 now.
MetalheadAndroid said:
The development of 4.3 for our phones began as most of you are aware but I would like to make a suggestion.The next iteration of Android,KitKat is optimized to run smoothly on devices with 512mb RAM (Sola,U,Go),it's called Project Svelte or something like that.I'm grateful that master Munjeni is working so hard for our devices but I say he should just skip 4.3 and go directly to 4.4 and help him by testing,detailing and fixing bugs,etcetera.If this so called Project Svelte really does what it says we're gonna have a new phone! What do you think?
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The major problem is for source codes, ST (ex chipmaker of our phones) don't release it! The low ram amount is the minor problem. OUR PHONE ARE SH*T! ..unfortunately :'(
That's good,can't wait to get my hands on 4.4 android! As of the sources I don't think there are big hardware changes except bluetooth,if we have sources for 4.3 we also have sources for KitKat.Google is now doing what Sony and ST-Ericsson failed to do..
it would be great if percy could do the same for xperia p .
android 4.4 seems to be soo goood , can't wait
I heard 4.4 has an expiremental runtime-compiler which is called ART. It's a part from droidbooster. And it's supposed to replace dalvik somewhere in the near future.
I hope the developers here can also make that compiler work, but I don't know if it is possible. for our devices.
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I heard 4.4 has an expiremental runtime-compiler which is called ART. It's a part from droidbooster. And it's supposed to replace dalvik somewhere in the near future.
I hope the developers here can also make that compiler work, but I don't know if it is possible. for our devices.
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Thats part of android framework,nothing much has to be done to get this work expect compile 4.4 rom.
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Only on manta. It's available on my hammerhead, but not on this. First the translucency, now this....What the hell Google?
ART was never available on the Nexus 10 - including on 4.4.2. It's only on limited android devices (not sure which ones are selected for having the option to choose this)... for example, it's on my GS5 running 4.4.2, but not on my girlfriend's GS4 also on 4.4.2.
ART was never available on stock manta rom. nothing is changed.
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not sure which ones are selected for having the option to choose this
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It is only available on devices that have the ROM space for it without repartitioning. The N7 2012 and N10 do not have the space for ART. That is also why other N10 ROMS do have it because they can exclude stuff that Google includes.
locovaca said:
It is only available on devices that have the ROM space for it without repartitioning. The N7 2012 and N10 do not have the space for ART. That is also why other N10 ROMS do have it because they can exclude stuff that Google includes.
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Don't think it's the space: My N7 2012 and N10 are both 32GByte devices with a unified file system layout so there is tons of space.
I've seen comments that indicated that ART was tuned for Qualcom CPUs and wouldn't deliver performance advantages on Tegra3 (N7 2012) or Exynos (N10).
OmniROM has it available on both but I've never bothered to compare and it may actually be pretty difficult to do.
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Don't think it's the space: My N7 2012 and N10 are both 32GByte devices with a unified file system layout so there is tons of space.
I've seen comments that indicated that ART was tuned for Qualcom CPUs and wouldn't deliver performance advantages on Tegra3 (N7 2012) or Exynos (N10).
OmniROM has it available on both but I've never bothered to compare and it may actually be pretty difficult to do.
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Hi,
The data partition is separated from the system partition, therefore the only way to solve the no space would be repartition the device, which is a risky procedure. For example, my Galaxy S4 was a 16GB device, with only 9GB available to the user, because the rest was taken by system and cache for example.
~Lord
locovaca said:
It is only available on devices that have the ROM space for it without repartitioning. The N7 2012 and N10 do not have the space for ART. That is also why other N10 ROMS do have it because they can exclude stuff that Google includes.
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Does it means that the N10 will not have the 4.5/5 update who is supposed to be ART only?
ART will be standard in "Android L", so i think all will get this compiler who gets the new android.
butchy93 said:
Does it means that the N10 will not have the 4.5/5 update who is supposed to be ART only?
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It doesn't necessarily meant that. The N10 didn't have room for both ART and Dalvik, but it's possible ART alone would fit. Still, I'm not getting my hopes up for an official update.
will moto e get android l update? its sept.
mukundmadhav said:
will moto e get android l update? its sept.
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Nobody can confirm till motorola officially confirms it
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amarjit_rsingh said:
Nobody can confirm till motorola officially confirms it
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hope they do
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hope they do
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Let hope they confirm as soon as possible
Keep asking them on help app I hope they will release it!!!!!
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I think they will. I just update my XT-1021 to 4.4.4
As far as I know moto stated that a big update will b given to moto e which mean a jump from kk to L. I personally don't feel updating to 4.4.4 was its main aim. I'm more sure of getting andriod L soon after its release..
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We all live in hope
akash.mahadeshwar said:
As far as I know moto stated that a big update will b given to moto e which mean a jump from kk to L. I personally don't feel updating to 4.4.4 was its main aim. I'm more sure of getting andriod L soon after its release..
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Hope they give us the update. though the update to 4.4.4 was hardly anything but still it was an update. Anyways even if the update doesnt arrive, I m sure the people in our forum may try to build one. If not anyone else i may give it a shot if i have time.
I don't think so.
As you know, Android L will use ART, and it'll use more internal memory compared to Dalvik. In Moto E with its 2.2 GB... it will be harder to manage an balance between few free space and good performance.
Android one is going to release this month. In IND Micromax,spice and carbon are ready to release One. As per as update is concerned ,these phones are one step ahead . Hope, Motorola has already started thinking about the future of E. To stay in the low priced market , they will hopefully release 2nd gen E also with better internal support.
Most probably I think they won't.
And even if they do, they will have to compress the apps to a great extent, trying to optimize the space of the OS, because of ART.
least we can do is wait if Moto updates any news on its devices.
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Most probably I think they won't.
And even if they do, they will have to compress the apps to a great extent, trying to optimize the space of the OS, because of ART.
least we can do is wait if Moto updates any news on its devices.
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Let see how android one operates on 4GB internal.
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Let see how android one operates on 4GB internal.
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that would be hella laggy, maybe!
cuz only 882mb is available for system
the internal storage = 2.21gb and if i enable art
only 15-20% of the memory remains for other apps!! without installing anything else than the stock apps!
so without the art only system in L
they will have to remove some or the other apps or they can optimize the memory in such a way that low internal memory devices can have a taste of lolipop too!
damn, it just hit me.
they are doing it crossplatform?
am i right? so android L we can hope for it to be updated or AT THE LEAST ported to our device!!
they may let go of the bloatware and give us a app2sd feature to compensate for our own apps, that would be ok as well?
any way we can let moto know about our wishes??
Android one phone launched
4gb storage
Will receive android l
Check the pink
http://m.gsmarena.com/google_launches_android_one_in_india_with_three_new_smartphones-news-9646.php
So guys what you all think of moto e update???
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Android one phone launched
4gb storage
Will receive android l
Check the pink
http://m.gsmarena.com/google_launches_android_one_in_india_with_three_new_smartphones-news-9646.php
So guys what you all think of moto e update???
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Flipkart should stop selling moto E in India soon. Lots of offers are there with moto e in Flipkart which indicates that its losing its popularity ,may be indication of launching 2nd gen .But practically it is difficult for moto to provides L update to 1gen E.
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Flipkart should stop selling moto E in India soon. Lots of offers are there with moto e in Flipkart which indicates that its losing its popularity ,may be indication of launching 2nd gen .But practically it is difficult for moto to provides L update to 1gen E.
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This to too early for 2nd gen moto e.
If android one phones will get android l then moto e should definitely get it as far as I think.
Also if question is with storage space of 4gb then how will android one phone manage l update??
Let's hope for d best[emoji111]
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This to too early for 2nd gen moto e.
If android one phones will get android l then moto e should definitely get it as far as I think.
Also if question is with storage space of 4gb then how will android one phone manage l update??
Let's hope for d best[emoji111]
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May be google is thinking android one in different way from L.
We have to wait till November for final announcement.
Can hope
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Android one is going to release this month. In IND Micromax,spice and carbon are ready to release One. As per as update is concerned ,these phones are one step ahead . Hope, Motorola has already started thinking about the future of E. To stay in the low priced market , they will hopefully release 2nd gen E also with better internal support.
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Yeah with possiblity hope they help with tne one
Can anyone tell me a similar device to moto e which has almost same specifications (the price be anything) as compared to moto e which has good android development. It may be from Samsung Sony or any company but it should have good android development.
The most important features to get matched are
Screen resolution
Processor
Screen size (it may be 4"-4.5")
Ram
Android 4.4.4
I can easily port roms from that device thats why asking
No one interesred>>> fingers down!!
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Can anyone tell me a similar device to moto e which has almost same specifications (the price be anything) as compared to moto e which has good android development. It may be from Samsung Sony or any company but it should have good android development.
The most important features to get matched are
Screen resolution
Processor
Screen size (it may be 4"-4.5")
Ram
Android 4.4.4
I can easily port roms from that device thats why asking
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Well, only these phones have matching processor : Blu Studio 5.0, Blu Studio 5.3S, Nokia Lumia 530.
However, a lot of phones have 1GB ram as the Moto E.
And, similarly, a lot of phones out there with Screen size from 4"-4.5"
But, only few on Android 4.4.4, I believe. Actually, no one with matching specs above.
And, problem is, the phones having matching processor have no android or no development.
So, I guess, that's unfortunate for us, but that's how it is for now.
But, CM11 sources for our device are there, now.
Can, you refer to them, and maybe see some other phone which has 1GB RAM, android 4.4 and a similar screen size, and make code changes to port it for Moto E ?
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Well, only these phones have matching processor : Blu Studio 5.0, Blu Studio 5.3S, Nokia Lumia 530.
However, a lot of phones have 1GB ram as the Moto E.
And, similarly, a lot of phones out there with Screen size from 4"-4.5"
But, only few on Android 4.4.4, I believe. Actually, no one with matching specs above.
And, problem is, the phones having matching processor have no android or no development.
So, I guess, that's unfortunate for us, but that's how it is for now.
But, CM11 sources for our device are there, now.
Can, you refer to them, and maybe see some other phone which has 1GB RAM, android 4.4 and a similar screen size, and make code changes to port it for Moto E ?
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Nokia lumia..how would I port from it
Putting from already made role take less time and don't have the time for the thing which you are saying.
I found Motorola Razr...I ported pac rom...booted..But many force closes...You can try it... :thumbup:
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mits619 said:
I found Motorola Razr...I ported pac rom...booted..But many force closes...You can try it... :thumbup:
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Acc. To me it is due to RAZR being cortex a9 and e is a7
But there isnt any device with the same cpu and other configs...For porting screen resolution & no: of cores is fine... Since pacman booted up, unless it wouldnt have
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But there isnt any device with the same cpu and other configs...For porting screen resolution & no: of cores is fine... Since pacman booted up, unless it wouldnt have
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Ya it Booted because at least those specs matcged. The FCS are there for to what I said
Go for android one device.
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Ya it Booted because at least those specs matcged. The FCS are there for to what I said
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U should try sense 6 from HTC one s or HTC desire 601.
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Why has Google ignored nexus 9, I bought this tablet so that it would be first to get updates but it's the opposite? Why Google why?
Chill out! Its not even been a week since announcement!!!
Google has identified another memory leak in 5.1, maybe they fix it before the rollout.
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Google has identified another memory leak in 5.1...
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Ugh, are you serious! That makes it 4 releases in a row they've given us faulty software (5.0,5.01,5.02,5.1). Are they even trying?
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Yeah, it's only a small problem compared to 5.0.1, but it still exists... :/
enriquejones666 said:
Ugh, are you serious! That makes it 4 releases in a row they've given us faulty software (5.0,5.01,5.02,5.1). Are they even trying?
Sent from my Nexus 9
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Why don't you try to code
JCUK89 said:
Chill out! Its not even been a week since announcement!!!
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Considering this is the first device that shipped with 5.0 and two+ year old devices are getting major updates first... Yeah people should be pissed
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Considering this is the first device that shipped with 5.0 and two+ year old devices are getting major updates first... Yeah people should be pissed
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64-bit must be giving the developers trouble compared to the other Nexus devices, or maybe there's something else about the K1.
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Yes, I want to know myself. Google suposed to be giving nexus devices upgrades for 2 years and the nexus 9 is still a new device and no update to version 5.1 yet. Stock images is still 5.0.1 version. I tryied updating to the pure AOSP 5.1 from the dev section from this forum but it had errors so bad it was unusable.
We already know that 5.1 still has memory leaks. At this point, I would prefer to wait another couple weeks and have them release 5.1.1
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well.. it has been almost 1 month since 5.1 images released... And still nothing.. the funny thing is that they realized that there is a memory leak in 5.1 and yet they released 3 versions of 5.1 for nexus 6, and 2 versions for nexus 5. All versions with the memory leak. The most funny thing will be nexus 9 to receive 5.1 with 1 month delay and not 5.1.1 with the memory leak fix... :laugh:
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well.. it has been almost 1 month since 5.1 images released... And still nothing.. the funny thing is that they realized that there is a memory leak in 5.1 and yet they released 3 versions of 5.1 for nexus 6, and 2 versions for nexus 5. All versions with the memory leak. The most funny thing will be nexus 9 to receive 5.1 with 1 month delay and not 5.1.1 with the memory leak fix... :laugh:
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The Nexus 9 doesn't seem to be a priority for Google. Even the Nexus 7 2013/2012 have received 5.1 despite being much older than the N9, they should at least give a release window for the 9 even if they are unable to provide immediate updates. Although, I think the user base for the Nexus 9 might be small, so perhaps Google doesn't think it's necessary to cater to N9 users at this time.
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The Nexus 9 doesn't seem to be a priority for Google. Even the Nexus 7 2013/2012 have received 5.1 despite being much older than the N9, they should at least give a release window for the 9 even if they are unable to provide immediate updates. Although, I think the user base for the Nexus 9 might be small, so perhaps Google doesn't think it's necessary to cater to N9 users at this time.
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I believe this too, due to the extremely low "nexus market share" this device has. Anyway, eventually it will be released.. Let's hope that it will be a final version. There will always be bugs, this is how software development works.
The SoC is a catastrophic choice. No other devices use it, I think, and development will be less than nothing from Nvidia.
Ace42 said:
The Nexus 9 doesn't seem to be a priority for Google. Even the Nexus 7 2013/2012 have received 5.1 despite being much older than the N9, they should at least give a release window for the 9 even if they are unable to provide immediate updates. Although, I think the user base for the Nexus 9 might be small, so perhaps Google doesn't think it's necessary to cater to N9 users at this time.
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Umm, my Nexus 7 (2013 variant) still hasn't got 5.1 either....
petkyrk said:
well.. it has been almost 1 month since 5.1 images released... And still nothing.. the funny thing is that they realized that there is a memory leak in 5.1 and yet they released 3 versions of 5.1 for nexus 6, and 2 versions for nexus 5. All versions with the memory leak. The most funny thing will be nexus 9 to receive 5.1 with 1 month delay and not 5.1.1 with the memory leak fix... :laugh:
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Reports of "memory leak" from morons who don't even know what a memory leak *is* are meaningless. Your assumption that "they realized that there is a memory leak in 5.1" is without merit.
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Reports of "memory leak" from morons who don't even know what a memory leak *is* are meaningless. Your assumption that "they realized that there is a memory leak in 5.1" is without merit.
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I ve had memory leak on my nexus 6 with its latest 5.1 version 3. I ve seen it with my eyes. Also the same problem on my girlfriend's nexus 5. And trust me, I know that I am looking at
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I ve had memory leak on my nexus 6 with its latest 5.1 version 3. I ve seen it with my eyes. Also the same problem on my girlfriend's nexus 5. And trust me, I know that I am looking at
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lol. So does "everybody" who doesn't understand Android memory management.
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lol. So does "everybody" who doesn't understand Android memory management.
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Right, u know better... There is memory leak , its there. Whether u like it or not. The only thing that u have been doing is being acting like a smartas* , next time try to explain if u will.
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Right, u know better... There is memory leak , its there. Whether u like it or not. The only thing that u have been doing is being acting like a smartas* , next time try to explain if u will.
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Whatever pal. Believe whatever you like.
But the fact that neither you nor anyone else has actually *demonstrated* a memory leak really says a lot about how well (or rather poorly) you understand.
In fact, first thing I would do is challenge you to explain (without looking it up) what a memory leak *ACTUALLY IS*, as well as *prove* that there is one in play.