Hello XDA,
Im using CWM modded custom recovery. Restoring my backup made my phone bootloop and eventually i had to factory reset my phone and start all over.
So im looking for the best way to backup my entire phone as is (Homescreen with folders widgets, settings, all apps and its data...everthing).
I searched in the forum for a couple of methods but im not sure... i have titanium backup pro, does creating update.zip and restoring from recovery do the same work? what about adb backup?
I need a method that can backup and restore just as CWM did for me.
Help would be much appreciated.
torecdude said:
Hello XDA,
Im using CWM modded custom recovery. Restoring my backup made my phone bootloop and eventually i had to factory reset my phone and start all over.
So im looking for the best way to backup my entire phone as is (Homescreen with folders widgets, settings, all apps and its data...everthing).
I searched in the forum for a couple of methods but im not sure... i have titanium backup pro, does creating update.zip and restoring from recovery do the same work? what about adb backup?
I need a method that can backup and restore just as CWM did for me.
Help would be much appreciated.
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TiBu is as good as it gets for backing up data, but nothing but a custom recovery or onandroid (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup&hl=en) can do an actual boot/system/data backup. You also might try a different version of CWM or see if they have a fully functional version of TWRP, Make a backup before restoring stuff and test to see if it's working before relying on it.
es0tericcha0s said:
TiBu is as good as it gets for backing up data, but nothing but a custom recovery or onandroid (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup&hl=en) can do an actual boot/system/data backup. You also might try a different version of CWM or see if they have a fully functional version of TWRP, Make a backup before restoring stuff and test to see if it's working before relying on it.
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This app is awesome for it self. But im having more trouble restoring then backing up. Are you familiar with other methods of restoring nandroid backups? perhaps not from cwm recovery but apps/module as you posted for backup?
torecdude said:
This app is awesome for it self. But im having more trouble restoring then backing up. Are you familiar with other methods of restoring nandroid backups? perhaps not from cwm recovery but apps/module as you posted for backup?
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Only way to restore is via recovery. The update.zip for TiBu will restore apps then will restore the data after you reboot.
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Been awhile since I've looked at the Atrix forums. Thinking part of the issues might be because of the big system hack to run CM11. Mybe th recovery you have doesn't support it correctly? Doesn't seem to have the newer TWRP versions so doubtful you can install KK roms with it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/atrix-4g/development/rom-cm-11-android-4-4-4-atrix-bigpart-t2847281
That talks about what recovery to use and how to revert.
es0tericcha0s said:
Only way to restore is via recovery. The update.zip for TiBu will restore apps then will restore the data after you reboot.
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Been awhile since I've looked at the Atrix forums. Thinking part of the issues might be because of the big system hack to run CM11. Mybe th recovery you have doesn't support it correctly? Doesn't seem to have the newer TWRP versions so doubtful you can install KK roms with it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/atrix-4g/development/rom-cm-11-android-4-4-4-atrix-bigpart-t2847281
That talks about what recovery to use and how to revert.
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I am using Zn7mkUKzN1r8aCIV Cm11 with bigpart that why i cannot change my custom recovery because its modded to install kk rom. Question is, does an UNMODDED custom recovery can backup/restore KK nandroid backup?
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Hi everyone,
I'm pretty confused of the difference between a nandroid backup and Titanium backup.
My understanding is:
nandroid = kind of a restore point for the phone with all system, apps and user data.
Titanium backup = same thing, but with options to choose what to back up.
So why do you need 2 of the same thing if they both perform exactly the same thing? Eventually, we'll probably be using the backup to restore those datas in case we want to flash new ROMs.
Am I missing something here?
Thank you for the info!
emigre said:
Hi everyone,
I'm pretty confused of the difference between a nandroid backup and Titanium backup.
My understanding is:
nandroid = kind of a restore point for the phone with all system, apps and user data.
Titanium backup = same thing, but with options to choose what to back up.
So why do you need 2 of the same thing if they both perform exactly the same thing? Eventually, we'll probably be using the backup to restore those datas in case we want to flash new ROMs.
Am I missing something here?
Thank you for the info!
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You don't need two of the same thing. I haven't used titanium but nandroid is a, if you will, what-you-see-is-what-you-get backup....what I mean by this is it will back up your phone in the exact state it is...you can't choose to exclude this or that, etc. I prefer mybackup pro because the one time I used titanium I couldn't figure out what to do cuz the GUI was so scrub. That's just me tho.
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I think the main difference is that nandroid will restore everything back the way it was through recovery. With Titanium Backup, you can backup your apps+data and restore them if you flash a new ROM. So like if you upgrade to the latest version of CM6 or Liberated, you can carry your apps over. If you restore the nandroid, it will restore the old ROM too.
Thanks for the response guys.
@blindfusion: I think you just pointed out the main difference there. I didn't think of it that way, the old ROM would also be flashed!
@zervic: Now I think I'll need to get my hands on a backup app. Will check out backup Pro!
Thanks again!
under nandroid/advanced restore, there's an option to restore data. not sure how it differs from titanium. i think titanium let's you pick the apps to back up. nandroid just backs up everything.
So does nandroid also give us the option to restore data (ie. Saved apps, datas, etc) under advanced without flashing the old ROM back in?
For example if i were to flash a newer ROM (FR007 for instance), then i'd be able to have access and restore ALL the backed up data in nandroid? And have a newer version of the OS?
Am i missing something here? I guess i just want to keep my aria light and avoid installing apps i absoloutely do not need. To keep it zippy and maintain precious internal memory.
Thanks again everyone!
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that's how i've restored apps/data after updating rom.
Thanks for the confirmation Darren!
Just to confirm that means that if I use titanium backup, it can backup the exact same things as Nandroid backup but you can use it for your new ROM?
No titanium backs up app and their data only.nandroid is a full system image.
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androidlover123 said:
Just to confirm that means that if I use titanium backup, it can backup the exact same things as Nandroid backup but you can use it for your new ROM?
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Always make both before flashing a new ROM. If everything goes according to plan, run Titanium to restore all your apps into the new ROM. If something goes wrong, you can use Nandroid to restore your phone to pre-flash state.
Also, you should copy the Nandroid file to your computer. If your phone is ever lost or stolen and you get a new one, you can restore it to your old phone's image.
NANDroid backup is a complete image of your phone: the OS, apps, data, everything. So if you screw up your phone, like making it unbootable, or accidentally wiping it clean, you can restore the image and everything will be back to the way it was when you did the backup.
Titanium Backup is an app in your OS that backs up other apps, their data, and some system data / user settings. It's usually used, for example, for restoring apps and their data after a clean install, where you've wiped everything clean.
The two options are fundamentally different, but do have some overlap.
I've never got nandroid backup to work for me personally. Always comes up, "backup not found".
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glad i read this thread. it clear up a lot of questions i have.
the only other question i want to ask is what is difference between ClockWorkMod and Nandroid backup?
I heard CWM is an Nandroid backup so does this mean Nandroid backup is a general term for system back up ? or is it an actual program?
silentsigma said:
glad i read this thread. it clear up a lot of questions i have.
the only other question i want to ask is what is difference between ClockWorkMod and Nandroid backup?
I heard CWM is an Nandroid backup so does this mean Nandroid backup is a general term for system back up ? or is it an actual program?
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You heard wrong about ClockworkMod. ClockworkMod is a recovery. Nandroid backup is not an actual program, but a backup of your entire system which can be done through ClockworkMod (it's an option).
thanks. that answer all of my backup questions.
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You heard wrong about ClockworkMod. ClockworkMod is a recovery. Nandroid backup is not an actual program, but a backup of your entire system which can be done through ClockworkMod (it's an option).
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Sorry still unclear for me, so if i have CWM i will go to recovery and there i can performe the backup right?
that copies the nandroid to my Sd card? and that image is flasheable image? is that correct? sorry if any of those is a stupid question :S
Edit: Nevermind, i found a guide here that is good for newbies like me, but thanks anyway
Sorry for necro'ing this thread, but at least it's better than making a new one!
From what I've read in this thread, I understand a bit better about the difference.
I've also read that it's important to save nandroid back up on PC in case you lose your phone.
Therein lies my next 2 questions.
1. If I want to use a nandroid backup on the replacement, it should be exactly the same phone, otherwise there might be a problem with the compatibility of the ROM stored in the nandroid and the phone. Right?
2. If I want to use a titanium backup on the replacement, I can use it on any phone, except I should not restore the SYSTEM apps. Right?
If (2) is correct, then we should also keep a titanium backup on the PC?
Part of my reason is also, I plan to switch from Desire HD to SGS3 and I hope to keep both pretty similar with slightly different interface. I plan to root my SGS3 and use titanium to restore some things from my DHD to SGS3. Using a nandroid on the new SGS3 will be a FATAL mistake right?
I know this is not a DHD forum, but the technicalities are the same, so I hope it's no offense asking these questions here!
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Oops forgot to add!
I'm using 4ext instead of CWM. In a brief reading, I've found that 4ext has it's own backup which is not nandroid. But backing up from 4ext is the same as doing a nandroid backup? In which case, every "nandroid" in the earlier post can just be replaced with "4ext backup" accordingly.
If this is a stupid question, just scold me, I'm still learning and asking as I'm reading. Just trying not to create new threads.
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Sorry for necro'ing this thread, but at least it's better than making a new one!
From what I've read in this thread, I understand a bit better about the difference.
I've also read that it's important to save nandroid back up on PC in case you lose your phone.
Therein lies my next 2 questions.
1. If I want to use a nandroid backup on the replacement, it should be exactly the same phone, otherwise there might be a problem with the compatibility of the ROM stored in the nandroid and the phone. Right?
2. If I want to use a titanium backup on the replacement, I can use it on any phone, except I should not restore the SYSTEM apps. Right?
If (2) is correct, then we should also keep a titanium backup on the PC?
Part of my reason is also, I plan to switch from Desire HD to SGS3 and I hope to keep both pretty similar with slightly different interface. I plan to root my SGS3 and use titanium to restore some things from my DHD to SGS3. Using a nandroid on the new SGS3 will be a FATAL mistake right?
I know this is not a DHD forum, but the technicalities are the same, so I hope it's no offense asking these questions here!
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Oops forgot to add!
I'm using 4ext instead of CWM. In a brief reading, I've found that 4ext has it's own backup which is not nandroid. But backing up from 4ext is the same as doing a nandroid backup? In which case, every "nandroid" in the earlier post can just be replaced with "4ext backup" accordingly.
If this is a stupid question, just scold me, I'm still learning and asking as I'm reading. Just trying not to create new threads.
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1. Correct. Its highly likely that there will be issues (device won't boot) on almost every occasion.
2. Yes. You may also want to exclude "app data," since it may cause a bootloop or system instability (on some occasions). You could keep a Tb backup if you wish.
It won't be a fatal mistake, but the device will just not boot up (soft-brick). You would have to boot into recovery mode a restore/flash a rom made for the device.
Yes, that's correct.
I have a couple of nandroid backups from an older version of clockwork recovery mod. The first one is of the official Android 2.1 that came with my Hauawei U8100, and the rest are from a Cynogen ROM of Android 2.3. I recently updated my clockwork recovery mod, and now i can only restore the first backup fully, and the rest can only restore the ROM, but give me a "android_secure.img not found" error, and don't restore data. Is there a way to update the backup to the new version? Is the version upgrade even the problem?
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I have a couple of nandroid backups from an older version of clockwork recovery mod. The first one is of the official Android 2.1 that came with my Hauawei U8100, and the rest are from a Cynogen ROM of Android 2.3. I recently updated my clockwork recovery mod, and now i can only restore the first backup fully, and the rest can only restore the ROM, but give me a "android_secure.img not found" error, and don't restore data. Is there a way to update the backup to the new version? Is the version upgrade even the problem?
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No, there is no way to "update" the backup to make it compatible. Yes, updating CWM recovery can cause errors when dealing with backups done by older versions.
I see. I've tryed reverting to ClockworkMod 2.1.5.8, but i'm getting a simmelar error. Did upgrading clockwork break them?
ari_aaron said:
I see. I've tryed reverting to ClockworkMod 2.1.5.8, but i'm getting a simmelar error. Did upgrading clockwork break them?
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Upgrading the recovery does not affect the backup in anyway. Maybe there was some form of corruption when the backup was done. Is the android_secure.img in the backup folder?
No, it has boot, cache, data, recovery, system
EDIT: That's what all of the backup folders have, and some work and some don't.
ari_aaron said:
No, it has boot, cache, data, recovery, system
EDIT: That's what all of the backup folders have, and some work and some don't.
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Well that explains the error. You could do an advanced restore (restore everything except for the android_secure.img). If you do this, apps which you moved to the sd card will not work.
But why didn't clockwork make them? Did version 2 not use those files? and why do the older backups work anyway?
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But why didn't clockwork make them? Did version 2 not use those files? and why do the older backups work anyway?
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As I said, there could have been an error. No, version 2.x.x.x did use those files. Maybe you didn't have apps moved to the sd card for the previous backups.
Hello all,
I am kind of new to rooting. I've owned my S3 for like 4 months but only just now did I decide to root it... I've already installed a custom rom and i couldn't be happier, it's Wanamlite 5.3.
Now I would like to try different roms, such as UltimaRom, as it has a far better Aroma installer with much more customization.
But I've got a question... ¿Do i need to wipe all my data in order to flash the other rom on top of Wanamlite?
Cheers.
You might get lucky and be just fine flashing it on top, but there's a very good chance you'll get a lot of problems. In fact, it probably won't boot at all. So it's always good to do a wipe before switching ROMs. Backup your data and apps in Titanium
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You might get lucky and be just fine flashing it on top, but there's a very good chance you'll get a lot of problems. In fact, it probably won't boot at all. So it's always good to do a wipe before switching ROMs. Backup your data and apps in Titanium
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Yeah... I'll most likely end up doing that.
Anyway, I was reading the instructions in the UltimaRom post and they mention that you should make a NANDroid Backup using CWM. What is the purpose of this backup? I mean, with Titatanium you can restore your apps, but what kind of data does NANDroid Backup save and restore?
Cheers.
Alphadan said:
Yeah... I'll most likely end up doing that.
Anyway, I was reading the instructions in the UltimaRom post and they mention that you should make a NANDroid Backup using CWM. What is the purpose of this backup? I mean, with Titatanium you can restore your apps, but what kind of data does NANDroid Backup save and restore?
Cheers.
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Nandroid backup if i am right is like a boot image of your phone when you do the backup, so if things go wrong it will restore the phone with everything you had at the point of backup
wicked wizard said:
Nandroid backup if i am right is like a boot image of your phone when you do the backup, so if things go wrong it will restore the phone with everything you had at the point of backup
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right
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Learned that from my wii flashing days lol
Cool guys, thanks for your help )
Can anyone advice me on what can be done if anything?. I have a S3 LTE Gt-I9305 I installed Titanium Pro and CWM. Did back ups on both and then decided to only keep CWM and promply went on to flash my ROM. It looks like the Ripper ROM has loaded but the touch screen won’t work visually it works fine but to unlock the screen, nothing happens. What could be the cause?. Secondly is there any way to re install titanium back on the phone as I have titanium backup files and hope that will restore the phone back to normal. Any advice???.
CWM & Titanium Back backups are two different things. CWM does a nandroid backup which includes your complete phone setup at the time of backing up. Titanium only backs up apps (user & system) & data.
Hence if you want to return to your old phone's setup you have to use your CWM backup.
Maybe read some of the guides in the FAQ thread to get up to speed on flashing, backups etc. first before you move on!
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CWM & Titanium Back backups are two different things. CWM does a nandroid backup which includes your complete phone setup at the time of backing up. Titanium only backs up apps (user & system) & data.
Hence if you want to return to your old phone's setup you have to use your CWM backup.
Maybe read some of the guides in the FAQ thread to get up to speed on flashing, backups etc. first before you move on!
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Thanks!. I know they two different thngs, hence me asking if there is any way of restoring Titanium back onto the phone, as I think the reason the touch screen on my phone may not be working because there could be a system file missing which CWM has not backed up. And CWM won't restore Titanium files or not that I am aware of.
Rich32 said:
Thanks!. I know they two different thngs, hence me asking if there is any way of restoring Titanium back onto the phone, as I think the reason the touch screen on my phone may not be working because there could be a system file missing which CWM has not backed up. And CWM won't restore Titanium files or not that I am aware of.
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Sure you can restore from Titanium, but I guess a safer bet in your case would be to do a factory wipe and flash a stock ROM. Easier and cleaner way as CWM usually backups any file, would be strange if it misses a few.
anyone know how to restore just the SMS data history from Nandroid backup?
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Sure you can restore from Titanium, but I guess a safer bet in your case would be to do a factory wipe and flash a stock ROM. Easier and cleaner way as CWM usually backups any file, would be strange if it misses a few.
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Mmm.... Thats the problem I have done a factroy wipe and flashed a stock ROM didn't seem to help. Not even too sure i might have even accsedentally deleted a file from the phone when it was connected to my pc. and without the screen working I don't know that I can re load Titanium as the screen touch pad won't work.
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Mmm.... Thats the problem I have done a factroy wipe and flashed a stock ROM didn't seem to help. Not even too sure i might have even accsedentally deleted a file from the phone when it was connected to my pc. and without the screen working I don't know that I can re load Titanium as the screen touch pad won't work.
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even if you deleted a file, you should be able to flash a stock ROM via Odin in Download Mode (as far as the hardware buttons still work).
If you really flashed a stock ROM already, you could still try to flash your nandroid via CWM (should also support navigation via hardware buttons or not?), and if this doesn't work I am out of options :-/
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anyone know how to restore just the SMS data history from Nandroid backup?
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Nandroid manager
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Nandroid manager
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Yes, I already installed Nandroid manager but i don't know where to look for it.
Is this the right one /data/data/com.android.mms
IIRC it has the option to restore SMS
Hello everyone. I am currently on AOSP 5.1.1 rooted and xposed. I am thinking about going to cm13. I have done a full backup of all things from TWRP Recovery. If I then restore this backup, will root access and xposed be restored too? Please help.
Harsh862 said:
Hello everyone. I am currently on AOSP 5.1.1 rooted and xposed. I am thinking about going to cm13. I have done a full backup of all things from TWRP Recovery. If I then restore this backup, will root access and xposed be restored too? Please help.
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YES DUDE
do it.. if u make backup make ii as you leave it! its like a windows img.
do it with no problems
Yes
A nandroid backup of all partitions, which can exclude internal storage and SD card, will restore the OS to the exact same state. I mean, really exact state. Only the system time, which of course can't be stored, is changed when you restore backup. Everything else, like apps and their data is as it is, untouched.