s4, jellybean, KitKat and knox - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
Can someone please explain Knox in simple terms to me because the more I read the more I'm confused. I've read so many post on it and its just not sinking in. I had an s4 with KitKat update, it had knox icon under apps but when I pressed it it asked if I want to install it which I never did. On the boot up download mode the Knox counter was present.
Because the phone has been such a bad one me the phone company has sent me a new one. This has jellybean on it as it is new and no Knox icon displayed to install it. Also has Knox counter on startup though.
Phone won't update now because Samsung's own software update has yet again updated jellybean and left the phone thinking I have custom software, did same to my other phone and a tablet. However this is their problem. Something wrong with their upgrades.
But getting back, what I dont get is will an official flash of KitKat trigger the Knox counter? What about custom ROM installed? Is my firmware already locked and can't do any office updates let alone root? I don't think my galaxy tab 3 has knox
Any simple help much appreciated.

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Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-I9505 I9505XXUEMJ5 MOD/CUSTOM ROM

Hi I'm basically new to mods with android and I'd like to learn more about mods.
I don't care about the warranty since I got the phone as a bonus from my company.
I have flashed root my phone with SuperSU, but I'd like to use a custom ROM since Samsung's stock annoys me and won't perform as expected after it was rooted. I installed Omega Files Pro but cannot flash mods or even the ROM. I'm on JB 4.3 by the way so I hate all the things like bloatwares and Knox though I only have Knox 1.0 since I didn't update it since when you open Knox it will ask you to download updates and all.
Now I can't flash, I get errors like ERROR after flashing. I also get this knox void warranty 0x1. I read that it somehow affects the use of bootloaders but I am still unfamiliar with those stuffs. Hope I can get help to make my phone performing as expected. Mods cool stuffs better battery and ram/cpu utilization without too many lags and time to load stuffs. I prefer not to overclock though.
Just need help to spiff my phone at it's best without restrictions as Samsung inhibits me from doing what I want with my phone.
Thanks in advance.

[Q] Rooting and Installing Custom ROM

Hello,
I've been reading and doing some research and I just wanted to clear up a few things before I went ahead and rooted.
I just bought the T-mobile Galaxy S5 and it came with Android 5.0. and baseband G900TUVU1DOB1. The main reason I want to root is due to the battery drain issues with Lollipop. I heard Twi5ted lollipop ROM is pretty good so wanted to give that one a chance!
1. Rooting - I'm assuming I need to use ODIN and flash back to Kit Kat first? After that, I can use TowelRoot to obtain root, get super user, and flash CWM? My only question with this process if it trips the Knox counter? Do you guys really care if you trip the counter or not? The reason I care is because I want to use Samsung Pay if it ever comes to the S5 and I heard that's not possible if the knox counter is tripped.
2. Flashing Custom ROMs - I'm assuming I can just flash Twi5ted's custom rom via CWM without any issues. However, I saw there was something called MultiSystem. Do you guys use it? Is it worth going that route instead? It seems like you can use it to flash different ROMS at the same time. Do the ROMs run slower because it's not on the internal storage device?
3. Files - Where do I get the stock version of kit kat that I can flash via ODIN? Where do I get CWM?
Thanks,
Indian
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Indian9990 said:
Hello,
I've been reading and doing some research and I just wanted to clear up a few things before I went ahead and rooted.
I just bought the T-mobile Galaxy S5 and it came with Android 5.0. and baseband G900TUVU1DOB1. The main reason I want to root is due to the battery drain issues with Lollipop. I heard Twi5ted lollipop ROM is pretty good so wanted to give that one a chance!
1. Rooting - I'm assuming I need to use ODIN and flash back to Kit Kat first? After that, I can use TowelRoot to obtain root, get super user, and flash CWM? My only question with this process if it trips the Knox counter? Do you guys really care if you trip the counter or not? The reason I care is because I want to use Samsung Pay if it ever comes to the S5 and I heard that's not possible if the knox counter is tripped.
2. Flashing Custom ROMs - I'm assuming I can just flash Twi5ted's custom rom via CWM without any issues. However, I saw there was something called MultiSystem. Do you guys use it? Is it worth going that route instead? It seems like you can use it to flash different ROMS at the same time. Do the ROMs run slower because it's not on the internal storage device?
3. Files - Where do I get the stock version of kit kat that I can flash via ODIN? Where do I get CWM?
Thanks,
Indian
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Well, I wouldn't go with MultiSystem. I've been flashing roms and rooting phones for a few years now and MultiSystem looks like something a developer might use to test a rom while having a working rom. As far as the Knox counter being tripped. Of course I tripped mine about a month after I got my S5. Google Wallet works fine. Yeah, Samsung Pay probably won't work on a rooted phone.
As for where to get what you need, go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo.../how-to-how-to-root-root-g900tuvd0b1-t3042249 He gives good directions how to root your phone and tells you where to get what he doesn't have.

I need help

Hello,
I have OzcanROM on my galaxy alpha, rooted with custom recovery ofc. Yet recently I had problem with my fingerprint sensor (I haven`t managed to fix it though) and my phone is in theory still under warranty so I`d like to send it samsung to repair it for me, since this problem is common throughout Alpha users community. My question is. Is it enough to simply flash stock rom though odin? Will they discover that I`ve rooted my phone etc. - will I loose warranty? Or do I need to override KNOX or something like that ? Kind of lost in it..
Thanks a lot, you`ll save me a lot of money.. I guess
Your sincerely
.....ANON
jk, Ted
Once you rooted your Alpha and flashed a custom rom the Knox counter will be triggered and stays at 0x1
So in theory Samsung will be able to see whether you were rooted or not
Overriding Knox on the Alpha is impossible.
Maybe they won't check it... but I wouldn't risk it.
Where did you buy your Alpha ? Because often when you bought it at a mobile provider they have to exchange your phone when they did not find anything (and they are mostly very sloppy by checking your phone)
I feel sorry for you mate

Samsung G925-T Root

Well it's been a while since I've checked, but Im having a lot of trouble rooting my phone. Ive figured since the s7 is out, maybe someones done it without tripping knox on my model
I almost dont really care about knox
But id prefer one that doesnt trip it just in case.
Galaxy S6 Edge
5.1.1
G925-T
UVS3DOJC
Can someone help me? Im really trying get NetHunter on my phone
5.1.1 cannot be rooted eithout tripping knox because it requires flashing a kernal that roots the phone and that kernal is housed in the boot partition. Marshmallow can be rooted by the old method of flashing twrp and flashing a supersu flashable zip. So unless Im wrong (may a someone correct me if so) 5.1.1 cannot be rooted without tripping knox. Idk if flashing twrp will trip on marshmallow so do some research on that. If it doesnt there you go all you have to do is wait for it then. If not then its not possible as far as i know. I cant tell you MM wise because i tripped my knox on L5.1.1
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U.S cellular samsung galaxy s6 edge

hey all so after doing some reading on how to reset knox counter on my s6 edge phone i began to wonder is it fesible to in some way force the phone to load a older more open version of android like 4.2 kit kat or before then use a program to reset the knox counter then reflash back to the newest updated version of marshmallow or in some way create a workaround that would force reset it by using older versions like a mini program build from the older ones that would allow a knox reset then reflash the phone using the original stock firmware..????
PS.SORRY FOR POSTING HERE BUT I DIDNT KNOW WHERE ELSE TO POST THIS ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED IN THIS MATTER ..
jklein36 said:
hey all so after doing some reading on how to reset knox counter on my s6 edge phone i began to wonder is it fesible to in some way force the phone to load a older more open version of android like 4.2 kit kat or before then use a program to reset the knox counter then reflash back to the newest updated version of marshmallow or in some way create a workaround that would force reset it by using older versions like a mini program build from the older ones that would allow a knox reset then reflash the phone using the original stock firmware..????
PS.SORRY FOR POSTING HERE BUT I DIDNT KNOW WHERE ELSE TO POST THIS ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED IN THIS MATTER ..
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Hi jklein36
Your post is indeed correctly placed. No need to apologize :good:
As you didn't mentioned the exactly S6Edge version you have and which were you previous flashings, it will be hard to adventure answering your question.
By default, when you trip knox, there should be an eFuse burned that won't come back. But that may not be so in your case.
I would suggest you to engage in an already running discussion on the matter and from there go on further into your needs:
[Discussion] KNOX Counter
Please, let us know your findings.
Nice regards.
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