I just got a batch of the Avaya Flare Experience tablets... They sent us ten of them as a part of a major order. (it was cheaper to get the package)
Since these are Android-based, I figure there has to be a way to root them.
Anyone interested in working on this?
I have carte blanche since no one wants one while they're all Avaya'ed up.
If they're rooted as regular Android tablets, I'm sure my team will be interested in them.
Unfortunately, I have no idea where to begin.
Any thoughts on breaking the startup sequence or where to start with rooting these?
Thanks!
Ven
Played around the device on my office was able to load an x86 android live usb boot a bit buggy cam not working and some other stuffs but since the infra project was scrapped its much usable than stock firmware. Not realy sure but if the divers were properly loaded and the usb image repacked with flare drivers would eliminate the bugs in any case its a nice tablet to tinker with
here are some proof of concept pics and stuffs , and yeah need a usb keyboard for input, a usb mouse can also be attach , wifi working, touch working, some games will not run/crash since majority of stuff on google play is not optimized / coded for x86
What was the software that you used ? that version?
What was the software that you used ? that version?
I´m two flare with the last version of avaya.
zxhian said:
Played around the device on my office was able to load an x86 android live usb boot a bit buggy cam not working and some other stuffs but since the infra project was scrapped its much usable than stock firmware. Not realy sure but if the divers were properly loaded and the usb image repacked with flare drivers would eliminate the bugs in any case its a nice tablet to tinker with
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Help needed for Avaya Flare A175
zxhian said:
Played around the device on my office was able to load an x86 android live usb boot a bit buggy cam not working and some other stuffs but since the infra project was scrapped its much usable than stock firmware. Not realy sure but if the divers were properly loaded and the usb image repacked with flare drivers would eliminate the bugs in any case its a nice tablet to tinker with
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Hello, i've also a Flare A175 an loaded Android-X86 4.4. i've the file Avaya with te latest firmware but i don't know howto pick the good directory and put them on the x86 image. Also, i don't know howto modify the boot sequence. Tell me if you need this file. B.R.
crframon said:
What was the software that you used ? that version?
I´m two flare with the last version of avaya.
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I just got a flare myself. I would love to get some help rooting and loading x86 android on it. I know this is an ancient thread. Zxhian if you are still out there could you contact me? Either here or at my user name at yahoo dot com.
Hello,
My company trashed some Avaya A175. With a colleague we would like to play with but they are stuck in the very first firmware version and it is not possible to download latest firmwares on Avaya's website (404). Would someone havea newer verseion?
Is it possible to try ubuntu on xperia x10i?
Not properly - i saw many posts with ubuntu over vnc, with touch friendly modified gui. But itin not a fully replacement system
Yes, but will prob require lots of work, ppl have got backtrack running which might b of use/a start.
by now I think its impossible to run ubuntu like we see in other devices, but I guess soooon we'll get many surprises since the bootloader is unlocked. I wanna see some WP7 rom running on my X10
Its been done before. Someone had gotten Ubuntu to work and someone else tested it on the x10. I read it a couple months back so I can't direct you anywhere...
Sent from my x10 Platinum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074169
Hanzo.Hasashi said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074169
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Good link, but as i wrote before (and it is written in your linked thread also) - it still need VNC server, so it is not full system replacement or flash.
I thing this could be used as a geek feature only, because it has dependencies for PC.
So it is not full replacement OS for any phone...
So, I was reading this article:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/3...ptops and Tablets [VIDEOS]&utm_campaign=Array
And wondering if we could run Windows 8 on our gen8's. Although the official requirements for a tablet as stated here.. and their a bit too much for our poor device.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_8#Tablets_and_convertibles
Could we make it run?
No, and there will never be a way to do so.
The video shows a x86 Tablet, that has allready a normal windows running.
The ARM version of Winodws 8 ( called WinRT ) need alot more then the Gen8 can provide.
fzelle said:
No, and there will never be a way to do so.
The video shows a x86 Tablet, that has allready a normal windows running.
The ARM version of Winodws 8 ( called WinRT ) need alot more then the Gen8 can provide.
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Aye. Thanks
Hello everyone,
I recently got a Sony Xperia Z (yuga) to play with and I want to test Ubuntu Phone on this device. Nevertheless every single guide I have read points to a <unbuntu-codename>-preinstalled-touch-armhf.zip, and now I can only find *.tar.gz* files.
Is there any way to find the .ZIP or convert the current yakkety-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz to a flashable ZIP file?
I'm working with Ubuntu Desktop, got Java, android tools and other stuff installed, so I only need to know how to convert the file or find the ZIP directly.
Thanks in advance!
There are none. The preferred way to install Ubuntu Touch would be to have a support device (you cannot just flash the armhf version onto any device and have it work. It will not.) and use the ubuntu-device-flash command.
This appears to be the device page for your phone: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/yuga
Be warned, it says that Cellular Radio is unknown, and sound only works through headphones, but they have an installation link that may help.
the alternative is to run
Code:
ubuntu-device-flash touch --device=yuga
Thank you very much for the reply.
I tried that and got the following error
Code:
$sudo ubuntu-device-flash touch --device=yuga
[sudo] password for ********:
2016/08/17 20:24:39 Device is |yuga|
Device yuga not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel ubuntu-touch/stable
I'll keep posting updates here from my findings.
Since the phone I'm using for this experiment is a spare one, there's no problem with bugs or non-working stuff
Silvarion said:
Thank you very much for the reply.
I tried that and got the following error
Code:
$sudo ubuntu-device-flash touch --device=yuga
[sudo] password for ********:
2016/08/17 20:24:39 Device is |yuga|
Device yuga not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel ubuntu-touch/stable
I'll keep posting updates here from my findings.
Since the phone I'm using for this experiment is a spare one, there's no problem with bugs or non-working stuff
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Hey, sorry for the late reply, According to that device page, this is an unofficial port, you can find more information about installing it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/orig-development/yuga-ubuntu-touch-xperia-z-t2434376
Do note that since it is an unofficial port, you will not receive OTAs from Canonical themselves, you may not receive OTAs at all due to this as well (I'm not entirely sure since the filesystem and device parts are separate)
It also looks as though the Yuga port may be abandoned as well, so you may have better luck requesting a port from ubports.com
To: Anyone that can give me a comment.
Hi,
I'm a owner of a Lumia 530 Dual SIM (Windows Phone 8.1 Update 2, Denim) and I'm thinking in what will be happen when Microsoft kill forever (well, almost it made already). Do you think that it will be possible install Ubuntu Touch in a Lumia 530 Dual Sim?
Or, you think that the only future for my Lumia 530 will be the box of the things abandoned?
Any comment welcome!!!
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To: Anyone that can give me a comment.
Hi,
I'm a owner of a Lumia 530 Dual SIM (Windows Phone 8.1 Update 2, Denim) and I'm thinking in what will be happen when Microsoft kill forever (well, almost it made already). Do you think that it will be possible install Ubuntu Touch in a Lumia 530 Dual Sim?
Or, you think that the only future for my Lumia 530 will be the box of the things abandoned?
Any comment welcome!!!
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It is currently not possible for the Lumia (any model). Perhaps in the future, you can also likely request UBports do a port for your phone. But no, there is no install package for the Lumia family.
Hi ShadowEO and thanks for your reply. I'll be pending.
I am a Asus trio tx201la owner and were completely upset that asus offered no other updates beyond android 4.2 to the tablet part. I noticed that samsung did the exact same thing with the samsung galaxy tab 3 10.1 and so did Dell on the venue. The venue and the galaxy tab 3 have same intel atom z2560 cpu soc and is stuck on android 4.2.
Unlike the Asus Trio the Galaxy tab 3 got a lot more attention and thus a lot more custom rom attention.
The galaxy tab 3 has been updated to 7.1.1 with custom rom by linage OS see:
http://techbeasts.com/install-androi...lineageos-141/
Now How can that help the Trio. The Trio has the same soc and is detectable by the intel platform flash tool released in 2017:
https://01.org/android-ia/downloads/...lash-tool-lite
Stock 4.4.2 android provided by intel: https://01.org/android-ia/downloads/android-4.4.2r1-ia2
Then I found a guide on how to use the tool here: http://www.aryk.tech/2016/04/how-to-...ing-intel.html
So I thought I was off to the races to make the update. The problem was I needed a flash.xml and fake the galaxy tab 7.1.1 update onto my tablet but no where could I find this file and certainly not one meant for my tx201la tablet. So I was stuck once again with no update path.
Then I found Remix OS and thought I had something but nope, again I cant find any info on how to get remix to boot on a android tablet? Ive also looked at running chromium OS on my tablet but that update path also seems to be blocked. So is there an answer or is my x86 android tablet dead?
madhits45 said:
I am a Asus trio tx201la owner and were completely upset that asus offered no other updates beyond android 4.2 to the tablet part. I noticed that samsung did the exact same thing with the samsung galaxy tab 3 10.1 and so did Dell on the venue. The venue and the galaxy tab 3 have same intel atom z2560 cpu soc and is stuck on android 4.2.
Unlike the Asus Trio the Galaxy tab 3 got a lot more attention and thus a lot more custom rom attention.
The galaxy tab 3 has been updated to 7.1.1 with custom rom by linage OS see:
http://techbeasts.com/install-androi...lineageos-141/
Now How can that help the Trio. The Trio has the same soc and is detectable by the intel platform flash tool released in 2017:
https://01.org/android-ia/downloads/...lash-tool-lite
Stock 4.4.2 android provided by intel: https://01.org/android-ia/downloads/android-4.4.2r1-ia2
Then I found a guide on how to use the tool here: http://www.aryk.tech/2016/04/how-to-...ing-intel.html
So I thought I was off to the races to make the update. The problem was I needed a flash.xml and fake the galaxy tab 7.1.1 update onto my tablet but no where could I find this file and certainly not one meant for my tx201la tablet. So I was stuck once again with no update path.
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First, you do not want to flash the Galaxy Tab 3 ROM, since while they do share the same CPU and chipset, the same can probably not be said about the rest of the components, from the screen to speaker(s) to the vibration motor (if it has one), so you may well be left with a tablet that barely functions.
madhits45 said:
Then I found Remix OS and thought I had something but nope, again I cant find any info on how to get remix to boot on a android tablet?
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About Remix OS, it depends on whether you have a standard EFI (yes, there are 32-bit EFIs) or BIOS, or rather an Andtoid bootloader like most ARM Android devices.
madhits45 said:
Ive also looked at running chromium OS on my tablet but that update path also seems to be blocked. So is there an answer or is my x86 android tablet dead?
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Why is running Chromium OS not an option for you?
Could it be related to the BIOS/EFI/bootloader?
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First, you do not want to flash the Galaxy Tab 3 ROM, since while they do share the same CPU and chipset, the same can probably not be said about the rest of the components, from the screen to speaker(s) to the vibration motor (if it has one), so you may well be left with a tablet that barely functions.
About Remix OS, it depends on whether you have a standard EFI (yes, there are 32-bit EFIs) or BIOS, or rather an Andtoid bootloader like most ARM Android devices.
Why is running Chromium OS not an option for you?
Could it be related to the BIOS/EFI/bootloader?
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On the galaxy tab 3 consideration, doesn't android use a generic display driver making this possible? I get how some of the parts could be different but it would seem that generic driver support may fill in the gaps, no? Apparently I could get there with MultiROM and see if it at least will boot. It may not I guess. Am i just wasting my time?
Chrimium OS would be great the problem is how to. I look into getting chromium os onto this tablet but all the info was related to installing on a intel pc with a bios. My tablet has android bootloader and I guess that is the big problem. However it seems that if you have root access it should be possible to change the boot kernel that loads or is that not possible? Gentoo is linux just like android so it should be possible to bypass the boot process somehow. Any how to's to do this? Ive googled to no end and it seems all the pieces are there but not any connection between them to run on a z2560 soc like mine.
madhits45 said:
On the galaxy tab 3 consideration, doesn't android use a generic display driver making this possible? I get how some of the parts could be different but it would seem that generic driver support may fill in the gaps, no? Apparently I could get there with MultiROM and see if it at least will boot. It may not I guess. Am i just wasting my time?
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In terms of display driver support, while ignoring the rest of the hardware, it depends on how the ROM was compiled, and even if you manage to get a picture, unless the screen gets properly detected, you'll only get a resolution of 800x600.
Plus, the touch sensor on the screen requires a completely different driver, to which, as far as I know, there is no standard.
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Chrimium OS would be great the problem is how to. I look into getting chromium os onto this tablet but all the info was related to installing on a intel pc with a bios. My tablet has android bootloader and I guess that is the big problem. However it seems that if you have root access it should be possible to change the boot kernel that loads or is that not possible? Gentoo is linux just like android so it should be possible to bypass the boot process somehow. Any how to's to do this? Ive googled to no end and it seems all the pieces are there but not any connection between them to run on a z2560 soc like mine.
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The Android bootloader is based upon Coreboot, however it is specifically built to only boot system's that adhere to Google's boot procedure standards, so while it is theoretically possible to boot any Linux distro with it, you'll need to find one that was specially compiled for it.
The BIOS and EFI utilize completely a different standard, which means that to get a BIOS/EFI complient system to boot, you'll need to completely replace the bootloader, regardless of root or custom kernels.
And unless someone had already compiled one for your device, you're looking at a feat that is way above most people (even experienced enthusiasts), since this is goes much deeper than the OS.
While in my opinion, the time spent researching this is definitely worth it, unless you find a custom-built BIOS or EFI, or you learn how to build kernels and ROMs (the latter is easier), your tablet is pretty much stuck at where it is for the time being.
That said, I prefer to look at this kind of situation optimistically, without deluding anyone.
The current situation may be rather bleak, and the chances of getting out of it may be slim at the moment, however they exist, and they are slim at the current moment, nothing given about the future.
While we shouldn't get high hopes, we must not extinguish them either.
Thanks for the info. Ill keep looking. I bet some amazing hack will come out in the future to bypass the boot process. Multirom already sorta does this, so the least I can do is test it.
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Thanks for the info. Ill keep looking. I bet some amazing hack will come out in the future to bypass the boot process. Multirom already sorta does this, so the least I can do is test it.
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I too am sure of it, however I try to be wary at the same time.
I'd like to point you in the direction of Coreboot and Libreboot for information on some of the possibilities.
I'll check them out..
Update: looks like there sorta replacements for a bios. Maybe the devs will attempt an android bootloader port.
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I'll check them out..
Update: looks like there sorta replacements for a bios. Maybe the devs will attempt an android bootloader port.
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They are open-source implementations of EFI, SeaBIOS is the BIOS equivalent.
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They are open-source implementations of EFI, SeaBIOS is the BIOS equivalent.
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https://w3bsit3-dns.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=701551&st=0
This thread pretty much sums up what you also said, even the same soc wont have the same exact parts and thus isnt able to boot.
madhits45 said:
https://w3bsit3-dns.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=701551&st=0
This thread pretty much sums up what you also said, even the same soc wont have the same exact parts and thus isnt able to boot.
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That is true, but at least you can try disassembling what you can to allow skilled developers to, at the very least, take a look.
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That is true, but at least you can try disassembling what you can to allow skilled developers to, at the very least, take a look.
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Yeah I'll look into it. Since Asus also made a tablet only tx201la called the tx201laf (released only in France) could I use the Intel flash tool to flash it's Ron? See: https://www.asus.com/supportonly/TX201LAF/HelpDesk_BIOS/
At least it's an update to android 4.4.
madhits45 said:
Yeah I'll look into it. Since Asus also made a tablet only tx201la called the tx201laf (released only in France) could I use the Intel flash tool to flash it's Ron? See: https://www.asus.com/supportonly/TX201LAF/HelpDesk_BIOS/
At least it's an update to android 4.4.
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I would first make sure that hardwarewise, they are indeed the same, even though this does look pretty good.
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That is true, but at least you can try disassembling what you can to allow skilled developers to, at the very least, take a look.
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Gave it a shot with standard update procedure & no go. Says hardware ids don't match. I can't use Intel flash tool cuz Asus image is raw format with no flash.xml. so I'm still screwed.
madhits45 said:
Gave it a shot with standard update procedure & no go. Says hardware ids don't match. I can't use Intel flash tool cuz Asus image is raw format with no flash.xml. so I'm still screwed.
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Can you please send me a flash.xml for the samsung tablet?
I'm by no means an expert, however I may be able to glean some information from it that may help towards building one for your ASUS tablet.
Unfortunately that is what stopped me from flashing the galaxy tab 3 linageos image on my tx201la tablet, there is no flash.xml included because you need to flash via custom recovery.
madhits45 said:
Unfortunately that is what stopped me from flashing the galaxy tab 3 linageos image on my tx201la tablet, there is no flash.xml included because you need to flash via custom recovery.
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Hmm...
Then I'll need to search for such a file when I'll have the time.
This should also help me with a small no-name tablet my father had bought.
moriel5 said:
Hmm...
Then I'll need to search for such a file when I'll have the time.
This should also help me with a small no-name tablet my father had bought.
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I'm looking into multi rom which may offer some sorta option. Take a look at that.
Or this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096
madhits45 said:
I'm looking into multi rom which may offer some sorta option. Take a look at that.
Or this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096
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That looks great, even if it is pretty outdated.
I'll test it out when I have the time.
moriel5 said:
That looks great, even if it is pretty outdated.
I'll test it out when I have the time.
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How did the flash with multi rom go?
madhits45 said:
How did the flash with multi rom go?
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Actually, since I have managed to find bootloader unlocks for my tablets, in the end I had never gotten to test it out.