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You know.. I gotta say, I absolutely love the build quality on this thing.. I was worried about not having a case for it at first..
But, my girlfriend accidentally dropped it like christmas even and that is the only scratch on the thing.. it is a small nearly unable to be noticed scratch on the very bottom right side. And that was onto a brick fireplace by total fluke. (She didn't realize the box wasn't sealed shut and it somehow popped out.)
After having this thing nearly a month, it being in my backpack a few times, my pocket and other places..
I see no scratches dings or anything.. which is pretty impressive. While I have taken pretty darn good care of it.. normally by now you will have something on any given piece of electronic.
Are the HTC phones this good? I'd honestly consider settling for lower specs in the future as long as the build quality was this good... Naturally I have and would use a screen protector but, I must say I am very happy with the current no scratch goodness of my tablet.
Yes, they are built well. I did drop mine from about 3-4 feet and it hit a corner in a case on a hard floor and the LCD went bad. I replaced it and all is well.
I dropped mine down a crack on a sleeper sofa and it put a nice gouge on the side of the tablet, but otherwise it's pretty good. Got a little nick on the screen as well. But otherwise, it certainly feels like a premium device.
Dropped mine screen first on a parking lot. Only a corner was scratched.
HTC is the best. I can't believe the majority of people think Iphones in the same league. You can't even mount it as a flash drive for christ sakes, you have to go through Itunes, after you have to update it every week or it doesn't work lol.
I'll probably get thrown off the forums for admitting this, but I'm an iPhone / Mac user and the View has really impressed me in terms of build quality. HTC's software "improvements", on the other hand... :/
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I'll probably get thrown off the forums for admitting this, but I'm an iPhone / Mac user and the View has really impressed me in terms of build quality. HTC's software "improvements", on the other hand... :/
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All of these products are designed to enhance our lives in ways ranging from fun to productivity.
While we may disagree on preferences or reasons to use certain products, none are really more or less valid than anyone elses.
I don't deny personally having a strong dislike of Apple products, but they are gadgets not a religion.
I'm a veteran myself...
cautiously dropped this baby onto my bed...still 100% functional.
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You know.. I gotta say, I absolutely love the build quality on this thing.. I was worried about not having a case for it at first..
But, my girlfriend accidentally dropped it like christmas even and that is the only scratch on the thing.. it is a small nearly unable to be noticed scratch on the very bottom right side. And that was onto a brick fireplace by total fluke. (She didn't realize the box wasn't sealed shut and it somehow popped out.)
After having this thing nearly a month, it being in my backpack a few times, my pocket and other places..
I see no scratches dings or anything.. which is pretty impressive. While I have taken pretty darn good care of it.. normally by now you will have something on any given piece of electronic.
Are the HTC phones this good? I'd honestly consider settling for lower specs in the future as long as the build quality was this good... Naturally I have and would use a screen protector but, I must say I am very happy with the current no scratch goodness of my tablet.
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you should still get the screen protector as its screen is not a gorilla glass.....more so if you are using pen a lot.....you will get the scratch sooner than later bro! and there are quite a few clear screen protectors around, so grab one!
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you should still get the screen protector as its screen is not a gorilla glass.....more so if you are using pen a lot.....you will get the scratch sooner than later bro! and there are quite a few clear screen protectors around, so grab one!
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Absolutely get a screen protector. They also help reduce glare (if you go with a matte one) which is a real problem with this tablet if you like to watch movies.
I had a screen protector on my Nook Color also, and just before I sold it I put a deep gouge into it by pushing too hard on a cheap capacitive pen. Thanks to my screen protector I was able to sell the Nook with a clean screen, rather than one with a deep gash.
I have a screen protector, but no case on my Flyer. The powder coat aluminum casing seems really durable, and I've been really impressed with it. I've owned it since June I think. I can't seen any scratching on it, despite being laid on tables constantly.
My Desire Z phone has a brushed aluminum battery cover on back, which has a lot of superficial scratches. But the soft touch plastic around it does not show scratches. Every HTC phone is a bit different (a few too many different design, some might say). But in general, they have the highest quality casing design in the business, IMO.
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I have a screen protector, but no case on my Flyer. The powder coat aluminum casing seems really durable, and I've been really impressed with it. I've owned it since June I think. I can't seen any scratching on it, despite being laid on tables constantly.
My Desire Z phone has a brushed aluminum battery cover on back, which has a lot of superficial scratches. But the soft touch plastic around it does not show scratches. Every HTC phone is a bit different (a few too many different design, some might say). But in general, they have the highest quality casing design in the business, IMO.
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Yeah, I can't count how many times I've set my tab on a table and I feel something scraping the bottom that I didn't see when I looked at the table..
Scared the crap out of me the first few times.. I am quite pleased to have no scratches from it yet.
also, I have a screen protector on my flyer.. Found a cheapo zagg at bestbuy.
Tottaly agree. I really like the build quality of the HTC Flyer. The HTC Flyer is my first permanet tablet. I started with a Samsung 8.9 but it went back to the store.
I currently have the Galaxy Mega and absolutely love it...that being said when i saw the google play edition of the Z ultra last night I got a bit envious. has anyone come from the mega and if so what are your thoughts? i know there is little size difference but what were your impressions?
obviously, i'm fine with big phones but i'm concerned about the camera since i have an infant and taking pictures is actually important to me now.
also, i am wondering if you can use the Samsung MHL cable on the XZU as i use mhl daily. would be nice not to have to buy another cable.
I have no experience with the Mega, but your MHL cable won't work. Samsung MHL adapters are 11 pins while the rest are 5 pins. Non-Samsung adapters are very cheap though ($10 bucks)
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I came from a Mega:
This is so much more powerful. Like, crazy powerful. It completely devastates the Mega. It's noticable the second you start using it, its just so fast and smooth.
The second big improvement is the screen. The Mega has an awesome screen for 720p, but the panel in the Ultra is epic.
The third big improvement is surprisingly battery life! The Ultra is considerably better.
Fourth big improvement is in signal quality. I am UK based so don't use LTE currently, but 3G the Ultra gets a stronger signal pretty much everywhere.
It's waterproof, which is never a bad thing.
Oh and I nearly forgot... Roms. There is already an excelent CM10.2 build available for the Ultra, as well as a fair few other roms and obviously the GPE just got announced and that will bring a tidal wave of very high quality roms. The Mega development section on the other hand is virtually a barren wasteland, and being both underpowered and Touchwiz inflicted it is in desperate need of a decent AOSP build. The Ultra is actually fine stock ironically, Sony only lightly skin Android and the stock rom is near-AOSP anyway.
On the downsides:
The Mega did fit in my pocket better, though I still keep my Ultra in the front pocket of my jeans just as I did with my Mega. The angular design looks good, but it is a little impractical on a device this big.
The touchscreen is prone to occasional mistouches, mainly if it's dirty. Not a big issue by any means, but a minus point non the less.
The camera is much better on the Mega, particularly in low light.
The "ASF" screen protection fitted as standard is stupid. It's plastic based, so it will scratch considerably easier than the strengthened glass beneath it and doesn't feel as nice under the finger. If you remove the film, which took me about 3 hours, the glass underneath doesn't have any oleophobic coating and so gets dirty easily. I plan on buying some of the Fusso replacement oleophobic coating on the net soon to resolve this once and for all, but that costs £20 and it shouldn't be necessary.
For me, the Ultra is the MUCH better phone. I'm really happy with mine, probably the best phone I have ever owned. :good:
i just returned my mega to buy a z ultra play edition, the mega wasn't powerful enough and didn't have enough customization options for me.
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I came from a Mega:
This is so much more powerful. Like, crazy powerful. It completely devastates the Mega. It's noticable the second you start using it, its just so fast and smooth.
The second big improvement is the screen. The Mega has an awesome screen for 720p, but the panel in the Ultra is epic.
The third big improvement is surprisingly battery life! The Ultra is considerably better.
Fourth big improvement is in signal quality. I am UK based so don't use LTE currently, but 3G the Ultra gets a stronger signal pretty much everywhere.
It's waterproof, which is never a bad thing.
Oh and I nearly forgot... Roms. There is already an excelent CM10.2 build available for the Ultra, as well as a fair few other roms and obviously the GPE just got announced and that will bring a tidal wave of very high quality roms. The Mega development section on the other hand is virtually a barren wasteland, and being both underpowered and Touchwiz inflicted it is in desperate need of a decent AOSP build. The Ultra is actually fine stock ironically, Sony only lightly skin Android and the stock rom is near-AOSP anyway.
On the downsides:
The Mega did fit in my pocket better, though I still keep my Ultra in the front pocket of my jeans just as I did with my Mega. The angular design looks good, but it is a little impractical on a device this big.
The touchscreen is prone to occasional mistouches, mainly if it's dirty. Not a big issue by any means, but a minus point non the less.
The camera is much better on the Mega, particularly in low light.
The "ASF" screen protection fitted as standard is stupid. It's plastic based, so it will scratch considerably easier than the strengthened glass beneath it and doesn't feel as nice under the finger. If you remove the film, which took me about 3 hours, the glass underneath doesn't have any oleophobic coating and so gets dirty easily. I plan on buying some of the Fusso replacement oleophobic coating on the net soon to resolve this once and for all, but that costs £20 and it shouldn't be necessary.
For me, the Ultra is the MUCH better phone. I'm really happy with mine, probably the best phone I have ever owned. :good:
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thanks for the help.
some of the things that make me weary of the XZU - i think the sharp pretty much sucks and prefer the rounded corners. i'm not sure if it being a bit bigger will be much of a problem or not. i went to the store to try to find one and its not in stock anywhere yet.
i really want a stock android experience though and i'll never ever get that on the Mega since they'll never get MHL to work and i use mhl daily with my appradio 2 and must have it.
that google play edition is so so tempting...i better not even mention i bought another phone after just getting the mega 6 weeks ago.
is it at all easier to use being so much thinner? i didn't think that would matter though in ease of use but not sure.
It's actually ridiculously thin. I have a hard time picking it up from the table. It's almost like trying to pick something flat off the ground and you can't really get a grip. It would've been brutal for the pockets if it was thicker.
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It's actually ridiculously thin. I have a hard time picking it up from the table. It's almost like trying to pick something flat off the ground and you can't really get a grip. It would've been brutal for the pockets if it was thicker.
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do you use a case with it?
i am also confused about this screen protector? is it a protector just built onto the phone that most people don't like or remove but its really hard to take off? i haven't seen any reviews mentioning it.
I'm not using a case. I like to use my devices naked. The screen protector is an "Anti shatter film" that's preventing glass from shattering once you break it. You may remove it if you want to, but I've heard that it takes like three hours to do it since it's really thin and it breaks into tiny pieces. It's not a good protector, so the oleophobic layer (anti smudge) layer will start to come of after some use. Also, since it's a plastic sheet, using pens on it to take notes or draw isn't recommended since it will naturally scratch it. Sony sure employed a brainiac to do this job, and I can't understand why they would do this.
Either way, that's just how it is. You won't notice or even see the protector, and if you get scratches, you can remove it and use your own protector. It just takes a lot of time. You can read all about it in a thread that's lying around here some place.
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do you use a case with it?
i am also confused about this screen protector? is it a protector just built onto the phone that most people don't like or remove but its really hard to take off? i haven't seen any reviews mentioning it.
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I'm using a black TPU case I got off ebay for £3, it doesn't add hadly any bulk but ofers decent protection.
I bought the Mega for the mrs. She wanted a large screen but doesn't need all the bells and whistles and see loves it and is used to TW having come from a note 2.
Honestly I like both devices, but for a hardcore tinkerer like me I had to have the Ultra.
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I'm using a black TPU case I got off ebay for £3, it doesn't add hadly any bulk but ofers decent protection.
I bought the Mega for the mrs. She wanted a large screen but doesn't need all the bells and whistles and see loves it and is used to TW having come from a note 2.
Honestly I like both devices, but for a hardcore tinkerer like me I had to have the Ultra.
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yes, i just wish there was somewhere i could go check out the device before buying it.
the biggest thing i think i will hate is that screen protector on the phone. that seems like the dumbest decision ever to put that on out of the factory.
there is a sony outlet store about 40min from me i wonder if they would have one, surely they would
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yes, i just wish there was somewhere i could go check out the device before buying it.
the biggest thing i think i will hate is that screen protector on the phone. that seems like the dumbest decision ever to put that on out of the factory.
there is a sony outlet store about 40min from me i wonder if they would have one, surely they would
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Give them a call and ask if they have it before you go out the door
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yes, i just wish there was somewhere i could go check out the device before buying it.
the biggest thing i think i will hate is that screen protector on the phone. that seems like the dumbest decision ever to put that on out of the factory.
there is a sony outlet store about 40min from me i wonder if they would have one, surely they would
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You can't see the factory fitted screen protector. I have a normal screen protector on top as well and its invisable if you take your time to install it carefully :thumbup:
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Yeah, you won't notice it at all unless you get some bad scratches. Just treat it as a gadget, and not a piece of meat, and you probably won't get any.
If you have an infant and pictures are key for you then avoid this phone like the plague. I have young kids also and this camera sucks. However otherwise the phone is very good in every other aspect.
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I currently have the Galaxy Mega and absolutely love it...that being said when i saw the google play edition of the Z ultra last night I got a bit envious. has anyone come from the mega and if so what are your thoughts? i know there is little size difference but what were your impressions?
obviously, i'm fine with big phones but i'm concerned about the camera since i have an infant and taking pictures is actually important to me now.
also, i am wondering if you can use the Samsung MHL cable on the XZU as i use mhl daily. would be nice not to have to buy another cable.
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I dont like Samsung products, bcuz they all look like sanitary napkins.
I'm waiting for my ZU to come in the mail I'm so excited coming from a Mega 6.3!
After playing with a friends ZU, the thing that I will appreciate most on the ZU is the faster processor and larger RAM, although I must admit I do wish the camera on it was a bit better with flash!! I'm a girl and I like to take selfies geez... :silly:
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I'm not using a case. I like to use my devices naked. The screen protector is an "Anti shatter film" that's preventing glass from shattering once you break it. You may remove it if you want to, but I've heard that it takes like three hours to do it since it's really thin and it breaks into tiny pieces. It's not a good protector, so the oleophobic layer (anti smudge) layer will start to come of after some use. Also, since it's a plastic sheet, using pens on it to take notes or draw isn't recommended since it will naturally scratch it. Sony sure employed a brainiac to do this job, and I can't understand why they would do this.
Either way, that's just how it is. You won't notice or even see the protector, and if you get scratches, you can remove it and use your own protector. It just takes a lot of time. You can read all about it in a thread that's lying around here some place.
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I owned the original Xperia Z and loved the mobile. Reviewers all gave it some negative feedback as when they sat in the kitchen they could not see the screen from the living room due to what they called "Poor viewing angles". I found this odd and got into all sorts of trouble on one review site, Trusted reviews, where they are anything but' trusted'.
I digress. The Z came with this new 'anti shatter film' Point is within only a few days of very respectful use I could actually see tiny marks on this laminate membrane. I spoke with the Sony importer here who advised me to fit a screen protector, in some countries they where sold with the screen protectors in the box. At that time this confused me as I thought both one and the other where the same thing? Not the case at all.
The anti shatter film is fitted as when the water resistant idea was in development the designers realised that customers would use them by a pool or near water like a beach. This caused some concern as if the phone got wet it became slippery and if dropped the screen could shatter and leave shards of glass all over the place where people could cut themselves (not to mention the cost of emptying and refilling a pool). To prevent any such problem and, I guess, avoid legal action? Sony fitted the new range of water resistant devices with these anti shatter films. Great idea.............
IN PRACTCE they have proved so soft they scratch far to readily and in terms of the Ultra it would be suicide to use a pencil on that anti shatter film.
here again is Sony being innovators of great new developments yet so often dropping the ball at the last hurdle!
I have a very decent screen protector fitted on my Ultra that I always order the same time I purchase any phone, phablet or tablet. I also always purchase a decent cover to further protect the device. I would like to use them without a cover but just cannot bare to think of scratching my devices. So good looking yet the cases do hide their good looks also add greatly to the bulk.
Life is all about compromise though.
I suggest comparing the Samsung mega against the Ultra is an unfair test to start with. Size being the only common denominator. With the exception of the camera, so I am told, the Ultra is made to a higher standard in terms of materials used in construction also the other operational hardware is more advanced. I am a Samsung fan but have never been a fan boy of any brand. Its a question of purchase what satisfies ones needs and requirements. I also own the SG Note 3 and gear, they are both now boxed and in a draw ready to sell.
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Rate this thread to express how you think the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge feels in terms of quality. A higher rating indicates that it feels premium and high-quality (attention to detail is high, manufacturing defects don't exist, etc).
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I like the overall feel of the device, the housing is solid and slim; biggest gripe is that my gorilla glass 4 has a cut on the screen after 1 day of use. Not sure how this happened but almost certain it shouldn't have occured.
chavist said:
I like the overall feel of the device, the housing is solid and slim; biggest gripe is that my gorilla glass 4 has a cut on the screen after 1 day of use. Not sure how this happened but almost certain it shouldn't have occured.
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I've heard that GG4 was made to be more shatter resistant at the expense of hardness not sure how true this isbthough. But you're not the only one who got scratches on their s7. Some reviewers also say they had gotten scratches with the s7 during normal use while having none on their other devices.
Definitely the most expensive feeling phone that I've ever owned. It is also the most delicate and fragile feeling one.
Pop / Crack sound on the back glass
It seem my unit has a problem on the back glass next to the camera. There is a gap between the glass and the frame and if you press it there it makes a loud pop sound, making it feel pretty low quality. Also the edges make it quite difficult to use the phone lying down, holding it above your head. In general almost all of the front side has some touch sensitive areas, so the phone is quite difficult to pick up without pressing something (with an open app for example).
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Definitely the most expensive feeling phone that I've ever owned. It is also the most delicate and fragile feeling one.
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You have to be joking. The S6 had a prem feel. the S7 feels cheap and the design is lacking!
cpugeeker said:
You have to be joking. The S6 had a prem feel. the S7 feels cheap and the design is lacking!
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No, you're joking right. Design is almost identical to s6 same design with some refinements. They use the same material being glass and metal, so how you're saying s6 feels premium and the s7 doesn't makes 0% sense.
cpugeeker said:
You have to be joking. The S6 had a prem feel. the S7 feels cheap and the design is lacking!
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I didn't own an s6, so...
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The build quality is top notch. No, no, it really is quality. It is heavy enough that it feels like an expensive device, but not heavy enough that it becomes a workout after holding it too long.
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The build quality is top notch. No, no, it really is quality. It is heavy enough that it feels like an expensive device, but not heavy enough that it becomes a workout after holding it too long.
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+1 here.. more premium looking than my old s6
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Hde some issues with mine that is more down to quality controll (lots of unity that was shipped out quick to meet demands).
First one hade issues with home button.
Second one volume down did not work.
Third one very tine hairline scratch i top coner on the rear camera lens (not sure if i can this one exhanged as it's very hard to spot if you dont know it's there)
Also, plastic home button? This could as well be harden glass to minimize scratches.
But all i all the phone i well built and feels good in the hand. A screen protector and case it's still sadly needed though as we know from before that gorilla glass 4 is more drop safe than scratch safe compared to gorilla glass 3.
You can't have both scratch safe and drop safe glass yet sadly
Overall Design is good. The first thing that is UNIMPRESSIVE is the Sim Card Tray is made of plastic! Would Samsung ever come out of this plastic trend completely? I know we cannot live without plastic. still, the sim tray should have been metal. Also, it becomes sticky after holding for some time. So wipe and wipe again again to keep the look Premium.
A 5* for rest of the design.
I dislike the glass on the back of the phone it makes the phone feel fragile
Broke in 1.5 weeks, bad quality
Quality feel does not mean much if you drop the phone from your pocket and it breaks.
How does a company who supposed does drop test call a phone that breaks on first drop a premium quality phone.
If one is able to find and read the S7 Edge warranty, it does not cover "accidents, water, dirt, or any other damage". Imagine that. The "gorilla glass" and IP68 means nothing.
I'm really sorry that I want from an iPhone to a Samsung S7 edge. I had expected more for how much I paid for a "premium" phone.
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Quality feel does not mean much if you drop the phone from your pocket and it breaks.
How does a company who supposed does drop test call a phone that breaks on first drop a premium quality phone.
If one is able to find and read the S7 Edge warranty, it does not cover "accidents, water, dirt, or any other damage". Imagine that. The "gorilla glass" and IP68 means nothing.
I'm really sorry that I want from an iPhone to a Samsung S7 edge. I had expected more for how much I paid for a "premium" phone.
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I don't really know the details for the warranty but saying that a phone isn't premium because it may break on the first drop is like saying that a Ferrari isn't premium because it may scratch/get dents in its first accident. Just saying maybe if you own a Ferrari or an expensive phone just be a little more careful.
Coming from a Meizu MX5 this phone feels fantastic! Part of me does miss the solid feeling of aluminium and I kind of agree with alwayslearning, it does feel a little fragile. Mines in a Spigen clear case at the moment but that detracts from its style so I've got a ultimateshield on the way instead!
Certainly looks more stylish than an iPhone but perhaps not as robust?
I just received mine today... and so far i like it a lot. I personally think the quality is up there. The form factor is really good and is to me hits the magic spot between size and usability. I'm coming from a Note 5 and i really apreciate how compact this feels in the hand.
Is it perfect? No, but then nothing ever is. I am very happy with it so far. I'm ok with the glass back.. had it on the Note 5 and im really pretty careful with my tech.
Anyway, ive only been able to play with it for a couple of hours so far and i hope my opinion of it doesnt change. At this very moment I love it.
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wznazir said:
I don't really know the details for the warranty but saying that a phone isn't premium because it may break on the first drop is like saying that a Ferrari isn't premium because it may scratch/get dents in its first accident. Just saying maybe if you own a Ferrari or an expensive phone just be a little more careful.
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To be clear, I was really looking forward to the S7 edge. Maybe it is just expectations for mobile phones. I'll let others wordsmith "premium". For me, premium is paid for appearance and performance. I'm expecting scratches and dents. But cracked at 2 feet?
Everyone product category has a level of expected performance, durability (and in cases of cars, Safety) for that specific category.
Using the analogy of a Ferrari is a bit of a stretch and false analogy. Nonetheless, to use your analogy, For a Ferrari, you expect power/speed, quality materials, sexy appearance, and if you hit something going 25 mph, you survive. The last part, you expect of any motor vehicle. It's a pretty low bar. If I drove it 200 mph, I would have NO expectation of surviving. There are certain things you expect from a car (let alone a premium car).
For a premium phone, you expect power/speed, quality, some sex appeal, and if you drop 2 feet, it doesn't crack. The last part, you expect of any mobile phone. It's a pretty low bar. If I dropped 20 feet, I would have no expectation of it surviving. Mobile phones are built with the expectation of a typical life of a mobile phone. Yes, that includes drops. And I'm pretty sure all mobile phone manufactures do drop test and built to it.
A friend responded that she dropped her S7 edge around 10 times with no issue. Yes, that is what I would expect! (ignore that that 10 drops in 2 weeks would be considered pretty clumsy by any standard). I don't necessary understand why others have lower expectations of a mobile phone.
Another way to think about it is to compare to how competitors treat "premium". Remember iphone 6 bend-gate? I never thought of putting a phone in my back pocket, but peoples expectation is that a phone is mobile and doesn't bend. Frankly I was surprised Apple made folks whole. The difference? A premium service for a premium product. I'm not saying Apple is perfect. IMHO, it is better than Samsung in their approach.
I just did a search on google, and discover review sites warning that the S7 edge is much easier to crack. Wish I knew that before hand. It was my mistake to assume S7 edge would be similar quality as S6 edge +. How many here have seen drop test of S6 on youtube? Amazing.
Really sad given that S7 edge has so much potential. Now, I have to look at a $800 Samsung "premium" everyday. I think others are more forgiving then me with this experience. I've not given up on Android. Just Samsung "premium".
my 2 cents.
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To be clear, I was really looking forward to the S7 edge. Maybe it is just expectations for mobile phones. I'll let others wordsmith "premium". For me, premium is paid for appearance and performance. I'm expecting scratches and dents. But cracked at 2 feet?
Everyone product category has a level of expected performance, durability (and in cases of cars, Safety) for that specific category.
Using the analogy of a Ferrari is a bit of a stretch and false analogy. Nonetheless, to use your analogy, For a Ferrari, you expect power/speed, quality materials, sexy appearance, and if you hit something going 25 mph, you survive. The last part, you expect of any motor vehicle. It's a pretty low bar. If I drove it 200 mph, I would have NO expectation of surviving. There are certain things you expect from a car (let alone a premium car).
For a premium phone, you expect power/speed, quality, some sex appeal, and if you drop 2 feet, it doesn't crack. The last part, you expect of any mobile phone. It's a pretty low bar. If I dropped 20 feet, I would have no expectation of it surviving. Mobile phones are built with the expectation of a typical life of a mobile phone. Yes, that includes drops. And I'm pretty sure all mobile phone manufactures do drop test and built to it.
A friend responded that she dropped her S7 edge around 10 times with no issue. Yes, that is what I would expect! (ignore that that 10 drops in 2 weeks would be considered pretty clumsy by any standard). I don't necessary understand why others have lower expectations of a mobile phone.
Another way to think about it is to compare to how competitors treat "premium". Remember iphone 6 bend-gate? I never thought of putting a phone in my back pocket, but peoples expectation is that a phone is mobile and doesn't bend. Frankly I was surprised Apple made folks whole. The difference? A premium service for a premium product. I'm not saying Apple is perfect. IMHO, it is better than Samsung in their approach.
I just did a search on google, and discover review sites warning that the S7 edge is much easier to crack. Wish I knew that before hand. It was my mistake to assume S7 edge would be similar quality as S6 edge +. How many here have seen drop test of S6 on youtube? Amazing.
Really sad given that S7 edge has so much potential. Now, I have to look at a $800 Samsung "premium" everyday. I think others are more forgiving then me with this experience. I've not given up on Android. Just Samsung "premium".
my 2 cents.
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There's a lot more to consider. They made millions of those phones and can't expect them to have the exact same build (while yes, they are all very close). Also, the drop has to be taken into consideration. If your friend drops hers 10 times on carpet or from like 1 feet, sure it won't get damaged. If you drop it from 2 feet on concrete, now that's a different story. The angle to which it drops and lend also makes a big difference. The device isn't it's strongest on every angle and some will definitely break it easily (take an egg for example, which is hard to break at the top and bottom but sides are flimsy).
Anyway, just this to say that while I agree it shouldn't break so easily. It can and will happen depending on quite a few facts, whether it is a "premium" device or not.
As a side note, Apple sell "premium" devices as well for the same price which also break and crack, comparing them is pointless without all the facts They'd have to be put through the exact same drop (angle, speed, material on which they drop) and even then, they'd both have angles at which they resist/survive better and worse since they're built differently.
Just saw this cheeky tweet
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Ive got one on order and will happliy give a review once I've gotten my hands on it. I've used their screen protectors before on my other devices and they have protected them just fine. Can't really complain about same day dispatch either.
let the chase begin!!!
Is it just me, or does this screen protector seem to lack a proper cutout for the notification LED. It can't be, can it? Surely, Orzly's better than that?
Thanks, just bought, hopefully it'll be better than the one they had for OP3T, don't want no rainbowing and visible grid this time.
MrDeacon said:
Is it just me, or does this screen protector seem to lack a proper cutout for the notification LED. It can't be, can it? Surely, Orzly's better than that?
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Why would you need a cutout for an led? It's a glass screen protector, you'll see the led just fine through it
the shipping time is far too long for US though :/
A Guy Called Revive said:
Just saw this cheeky tweet
Screen Protector in question
Ive got one on order and will happliy give a review once I've gotten my hands on it. I've used their screen protectors before on my other devices and they have protected them just fine. Can't really complain about same day dispatch either.
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Great news! Loved it on my OnePlus 3! Looking forward to mine arriving now, will finally feel safe haha.
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Why would you need a cutout for an led? It's a glass screen protector, you'll see the led just fine through it
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Because it has a black frame, which isn't see-through? Why would you think the sensors and the camera have cutouts if the protector was transparent?
As suspected, the advertising pictures are incorrect. The actual screen protector has proper cutouts for the notification LED.
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the shipping time is far too long for US though :/
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They usually have Amazon prime stock fairly fast so maybe give it a week and you'll probably be able to order for next day. If you can wait a week...
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I had their TGSP for my OP2 and loved it!! Though noticed these are not completely transparent so just been reading more about it on their blog and i guess it has to do with a curved screen? Don't get what is so great about curved screens.... I've loved my OP2 for a few years now and holding the OP5 in my hand today I really don't sit there saying Oh my god how did I used to live without curved screens!! I still do say that about touch screens (versus those piddly little screens we used to have on clamshell phones )
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They usually have Amazon prime stock fairly fast so maybe give it a week and you'll probably be able to order for next day. If you can wait a week...
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I had their TGSP for my OP2 and loved it!! Though noticed these are not completely transparent so just been reading more about it on their blog and i guess it has to do with a curved screen? Don't get what is so great about curved screens.... I've loved my OP2 for a few years now and holding the OP5 in my hand today I really don't sit there saying Oh my god how did I used to live without curved screens!! I still do say that about touch screens (versus those piddly little screens we used to have on clamshell phones )
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Couldn't agree with you more! I feel the same about OLED TVs to be honest. (it's just one of those things that manufacturers like to do so that they can try to pretend like they've invented something useful, but of very little use other than that old ones didn't do that. Flat screens for phones though are definitely much more practical in the context of glass screens though. That said, whilst I still prefer the flat ones hands down, I think Orzly made a much better job of the curved ones than any of the others I've seen (the actual TG Screen Protector that OnePlus themselves made was astonishingly terrible according to all the videos I've seen)
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Couldn't agree with you more! I feel the same about OLED TVs to be honest. (it's just one of those things that manufacturers like to do so that they can try to pretend like they've invented something useful, but of very little use other than that old ones didn't do that. Flat screens for phones though are definitely much more practical in the context of glass screens though. That said, whilst I still prefer the flat ones hands down, I think Orzly made a much better job of the curved ones than any of the others I've seen (the actual TG Screen Protector that OnePlus themselves made was astonishingly terrible according to all the videos I've seen)
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Meh I agree. OLED TVs really aren't necessary, I see the difference on LED/IPS phones and OLED phones but don't see much of a difference in the OLED TVs.
Yep I agree on your second point too. Had the Orzly TGSP for my op3 and it fitted great, much better then the likes of casebase etc. After watching the video @niijonodhg made, I'm excited to get this flimsy plastic protector off and get the TGSP one on!
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Couldn't agree with you more! I feel the same about OLED TVs to be honest. (it's just one of those things that manufacturers like to do so that they can try to pretend like they've invented something useful, but of very little use other than that old ones didn't do that. Flat screens for phones though are definitely much more practical in the context of glass screens though. That said, whilst I still prefer the flat ones hands down, I think Orzly made a much better job of the curved ones than any of the others I've seen (the actual TG Screen Protector that OnePlus themselves made was astonishingly terrible according to all the videos I've seen)
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My pet hate in terms of unnecessary 'value-less' over hyped marketing features is with food though. Off topic I know but you've now set me off thinking of stupid marketing ploys. So this month's 'super food' is cauliflower - you know cauliflower rice, cauliflower pizza bases from trader Joe's, cauliflower flour. I mean come on!!! Cauliflower has existed for a long time now, why blitz it and call it rice and try and fool foolish people in to paying over the odds for 'rice' - oh wait I think I answered my own question
Anyway hopefully like with most fads, this one will pass and soon we will have a 2020 nostalgic or retro version of the Oneplus 2 (like the Nokia 3310)
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They usually have Amazon prime stock fairly fast so maybe give it a week and you'll probably be able to order for next day. If you can wait a week...
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I had their TGSP for my OP2 and loved it!! Though noticed these are not completely transparent so just been reading more about it on their blog and i guess it has to do with a curved screen? Don't get what is so great about curved screens.... I've loved my OP2 for a few years now and holding the OP5 in my hand today I really don't sit there saying Oh my god how did I used to live without curved screens!! I still do say that about touch screens (versus those piddly little screens we used to have on clamshell phones )
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Meh I agree. OLED TVs really aren't necessary, I see the difference on LED/IPS phones and OLED phones but don't see much of a difference in the OLED TVs.
Yep I agree on your second point too. Had the Orzly TGSP for my op3 and it fitted great, much better then the likes of casebase etc. After watching the video niijonodhg made, I'm excited to get this flimsy plastic protector off and get the TGSP one on!
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Yeah, the tempered glass versions are definitely the way to go. I personally have never seen the point in the other plastic foil types of protectors. (all they really do is just stop fingermarks and light scratches at best, but even those things they generally tend not to do so well, so for me personally it has never really warranted putting that type of extra covering on, as all that does is just cheapens the look. (and for very little benefit). But the tempered glass ones I absolutely swear by, as they psychically stop your phone's actual screen from getting smashed in, so that's the entire point for me.
( I learnt my lesson the hard way a few years back after accidentally dropping my phone face down and regretted it, so have been using the tempered glass types ever since) .
Thanks for the heads up on the casebase ones though, as some are definitely better than others. (even ones that look similar, I have found) - There can often be huge differences in glues, thicknesses, screen sensitivity, etc. My experience of the Orzly ones has been the same as yours, and I do generally tend to find them to be the best of all the ones I have used so far. I've had them before for a few different of phones in the past, and the one they did for the Nintendo Switch was exceptionally good! (even better than some of the ones I've had for my phones) so they can vary from model to model aswell, but generally they always seem to hold up well!
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Yeah, the tempered glass versions are definitely the way to go. I personally have never seen the point in the other plastic foil types of protectors. (all they really do is just stop fingermarks and light scratches at best, but even those things they generally tend not to do so well, so for me personally it has never really warranted putting that type of extra covering on, as all that does is just cheapens the look. (and for very little benefit). But the tempered glass ones I absolutely swear by, as they psychically stop your phone's actual screen from getting smashed in, so that's the entire point for me.
( I learnt my lesson the hard way a few years back after accidentally dropping my phone face down and regretted it, so have been using the tempered glass types ever since) .
Thanks for the heads up on the casebase ones though, as some are definitely better than others. (even ones that look similar, I have found) - There can often be huge differences in glues, thicknesses, screen sensitivity, etc. My experience of the Orzly ones has been the same as yours, and I do generally tend to find them to be the best of all the ones I have used so far. I've had them before for a few different of phones in the past, and the one they did for the Nintendo Switch was exceptionally good! (even better than some of the ones I've had for my phones) so they can vary from model to model aswell, but generally they always seem to hold up well!
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Yep definitely agree on the film protectors. The one that OP ships on the phone seems to be a dust magnet too, gets stuck to the screen. Kind of annoying haha.
Glad you have the same opinion on Orzly! Look at that we both had great experiences with then for the switch too!
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Yeah, the tempered glass versions are definitely the way to go. I personally have never seen the point in the other plastic foil types of protectors. (all they really do is just stop fingermarks and light scratches at best, but even those things they generally tend not to do so well, so for me personally it has never really warranted putting that type of extra covering on, as all that does is just cheapens the look. (and for very little benefit). But the tempered glass ones I absolutely swear by, as they psychically stop your phone's actual screen from getting smashed in, so that's the entire point for me.
( I learnt my lesson the hard way a few years back after accidentally dropping my phone face down and regretted it, so have been using the tempered glass types ever since) .
Thanks for the heads up on the casebase ones though, as some are definitely better than others. (even ones that look similar, I have found) - There can often be huge differences in glues, thicknesses, screen sensitivity, etc. My experience of the Orzly ones has been the same as yours, and I do generally tend to find them to be the best of all the ones I have used so far. I've had them before for a few different of phones in the past, and the one they did for the Nintendo Switch was exceptionally good! (even better than some of the ones I've had for my phones) so they can vary from model to model aswell, but generally they always seem to hold up well!
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Can't comment on the Switch as my wife is yet to buy me one (read neglected husband ) but I suppose it was an easier device as it has a flat screen rather than these fuddy duddy new age curved nonsense.
Ive had a dispatch notification for my Orzly screen so should know next week...
DarkExistence said:
Yep definitely agree on the film protectors. The one that OP ships on the phone seems to be a dust magnet too, gets stuck to the screen. Kind of annoying haha.
Glad you have the same opinion on Orzly! Look at that we both had great experiences with then for the switch too!
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Haha, Small world! Yeah, absolutely loving my Switch so far, but wouldn't have dared taking anywhere without the tempered glass on it! To be honest I had thought about keeping my phone in the top pocket of the Nintendo Switch Travel Case I got from them, as it would certainly fit. (But to be honest I probably wouldn't hear the phonecalls if I did it that way, so I'll save the top pocket for the extra joy-cons and cables that I carry). For my OnePlus 5, I prefer to keep it close enough to my body so that I can physically feel aswell as hear when someone tries to call me on it.
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jason-tech-uk said:
My pet hate in terms of unnecessary 'value-less' over hyped marketing features is with food though. Off topic I know but you've now set me off thinking of stupid marketing ploys. So this month's 'super food' is cauliflower - you know cauliflower rice, cauliflower pizza bases from trader Joe's, cauliflower flour. I mean come on!!! Cauliflower has existed for a long time now, why blitz it and call it rice and try and fool foolish people in to paying over the odds for 'rice' - oh wait I think I answered my own question
Anyway hopefully like with most fads, this one will pass and soon we will have a 2020 nostalgic or retro version of the OnePlus 2 (like the Nokia 3310)
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Haha, yeah, Even retro in itself for me I find to be a rather annoying fad. (don't get me wrong, I love it when companies return back to things that work better than some of the pointless gimmicks they tried on but were never useful, but alot of times it's not even that) I think we have truly reached the age though where companies are starting to seriously run out of ideas. I think the last innovative thing I ever saw on a phone was a few years back when Apple first brought out Touch ID. (couldn't live without that now, so I genuinely do find that useful). But now fortunately this feature is standard on alot of phones now, but I haven't seen anything innovative from anyone for a long time. Apple and OnePlus are still my two favorites by far (I like to have both iOS and Android for different things). For Apple though I think the 5S to 6S Plus era are my favorite types, and don't like where they went from 7 onwards which is why I'm buying the OnePlus 5 for my android replacement this year, and just sticking with my existing 6S Plus for my Apple unless I hear anything that impresses me enough about iPhone 8 to warrant making the upgrade. (could happen, but not heard even so much as a rumor that has pricked my ears up so far). I do sincerely hope though that they surprise me and prove me wrong.
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Can't comment on the Switch as my wife is yet to buy me one (read neglected husband ) but I suppose it was an easier device as it has a flat screen rather than these fuddy duddy new age curved nonsense.
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Yeah, I can confirm that the screen of the Nintendo Switch is completely flat, and that really does make a huge difference. to the type of screen protector you can put on it. (Definitely the flat screen devices are superior in that respect). The curved screen devices really make it alot more complicated to actually protect them, so I do sincerely hope this fad of curved scenes dies a horrible death soon, as they definitely seem to create more problems than they solve. I personally see no befit to curving them whatsoever, and seems to infuriate users who eventually regret buying devices they otherwise really like, after having such an annoying experience with them. (if it's any consolation, it has backfired on the manufacturers too if you think about it (as if they had a flat screen to begin with, their own screen protectors would have worked alot better with their devices, and they wouldn't have had to worry about so many 3rd party accessory manufacturers from stealing their thunder, nor the problem of customers who had gotten frustrated with the experience opting to not put themselves through that whole ordeal the next time round). Until they learn this, it is a problem they will forever be vulnerable to.
But in OnePlus's defense, they do tend to learn from their mistakes alot more than many other phone makers. But if I was in their shoes, I would certainly be making doubly sure to pay attention to this particular issue, as this happening twice in a row now on their last two devices certainly isn't doing them any favors (even amongst those of us who generally otherwise love them, but are starting to get fatigued enough by it to think twice next time). If we are vocal about this often enough though as loyal customers who understand how important this is, if any company can learn from it, I believe OnePlus can.
Since getting my S8+ a few weeks ago and going through the usual newborn babying of the phone I have been scouring around for screen protectors. Other than the Whitestone, which looks really good but the installation of which I would probably mess up I really have found nothing in tempered glass which really seems to work. I have no interest in the films.
So I have looked at the liquid nano protectors. Nothing has really got my interest in the written reviews as they mostly are written as advertising copy. There is one reasonably good Youtube video comparing a few tempered glass protectors and two liquid protectors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-wv5ipKbRw&t=2643s
Still I have not been convinced, especially when people use knives and keys which are low - as in a 5 - on the Mohs scale.
My local staples (like staples in the US) does the Liquid Armor (Armour here in Canada) and I have seen a few reviews which tend to be mixed. A friendly rep at Staples in Montreal has been quite honest with me and said it really does not prevent scratches so that is off the list. He mentioned to me that they might get the Whoosh Diamond Defense liquid screen protector in but he would not be surprised if the product was made by Dynaflo, the makers of Liquid Armor. In essence, he felt none of them really would do a very good job
Now on to the Whoosh. https://whoosh.com/pages/diamond-defense I use the screen cleaner currently but it really is more or less nothing special. The company is based in Toronto but their screen cleaner and their liquid screen protector are all made in the US which indicates to me that they are more of a marketing company than anything else. Nevertheless, they seem on Amazon to get great reviews for their screen cleaner but there is nothing on the screen protector.
One liquid screen protector (not Whoosh) had previously boasted about being tested by SGS but nobody could find the test. I know SGS very well. In my business I have used their services for pre-shipment and discharge surveys. They are a huge, highly reputed company based out of Switzerland.
Yesterday evening I did a google on Whoosh and SGS and a link came up to the SGS report. https://www.easystore.cz/media/8657...ngsten Carbide client request_Signed.pdf?mt=8
I am not a materials engineer but the test seems far more scientifically based than anything say jerryrigeverything has been able to do (Understandable as this is expensive). Tungsten is something like 7-8 on the Mohs scale and the results of this seem very promising. SGS are a huge company and no way would I think that a tiny company like Whoosh could "buy" results. The methodology looks relative sound.
Is this worth a try?
Am using this (see attached) on top of my custom Tempered Glass (see my thread about the TG installation)
I've some experiences with other brand in the past, and it actually quite good, was using it on my HTC One, and it indeed preventing micro scratch on the screen, although it wont help you upon drop or other direct impact with weight,
This Nano brand, is more thick with yellowish liquid appearance,
I applied 2 pack on top of my TG, and i can definitely say that it give you the better oleophobic feeling (less fingerprint stick on my screen) and it also give the glass a better scratch resistant level,
It's been 2 weeks and i havent found any micro scratch on the glass.
Put a note though, that this kind of liquid protector will wear off, especially if you are the kind who like to wipe your screen a lot
Expect to re-apply after 3-6 months
About the price, it's $10 for two
Another brand avail on my country is Kristal (which is made in malaysia) and cost more ( $8 for one pack)
Thanks very much for the reply. All I am looking for is some added scratch resistance and from your post it looks like that is the case.
Your choice is definitely more economical than the Whoosh which seems awfully pricey.
Attached is my screen (TG to be exact) condition after 2 weeks,
Not the best picture, but i think good enough to get the idea of the condition, lol
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Attached is my screen (TG to be exact) condition after 2 weeks,
Not the best picture, but i think good enough to get the idea of the condition, lol
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Which TG do you have?