I currently have the Galaxy Mega and absolutely love it...that being said when i saw the google play edition of the Z ultra last night I got a bit envious. has anyone come from the mega and if so what are your thoughts? i know there is little size difference but what were your impressions?
obviously, i'm fine with big phones but i'm concerned about the camera since i have an infant and taking pictures is actually important to me now.
also, i am wondering if you can use the Samsung MHL cable on the XZU as i use mhl daily. would be nice not to have to buy another cable.
I have no experience with the Mega, but your MHL cable won't work. Samsung MHL adapters are 11 pins while the rest are 5 pins. Non-Samsung adapters are very cheap though ($10 bucks)
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I came from a Mega:
This is so much more powerful. Like, crazy powerful. It completely devastates the Mega. It's noticable the second you start using it, its just so fast and smooth.
The second big improvement is the screen. The Mega has an awesome screen for 720p, but the panel in the Ultra is epic.
The third big improvement is surprisingly battery life! The Ultra is considerably better.
Fourth big improvement is in signal quality. I am UK based so don't use LTE currently, but 3G the Ultra gets a stronger signal pretty much everywhere.
It's waterproof, which is never a bad thing.
Oh and I nearly forgot... Roms. There is already an excelent CM10.2 build available for the Ultra, as well as a fair few other roms and obviously the GPE just got announced and that will bring a tidal wave of very high quality roms. The Mega development section on the other hand is virtually a barren wasteland, and being both underpowered and Touchwiz inflicted it is in desperate need of a decent AOSP build. The Ultra is actually fine stock ironically, Sony only lightly skin Android and the stock rom is near-AOSP anyway.
On the downsides:
The Mega did fit in my pocket better, though I still keep my Ultra in the front pocket of my jeans just as I did with my Mega. The angular design looks good, but it is a little impractical on a device this big.
The touchscreen is prone to occasional mistouches, mainly if it's dirty. Not a big issue by any means, but a minus point non the less.
The camera is much better on the Mega, particularly in low light.
The "ASF" screen protection fitted as standard is stupid. It's plastic based, so it will scratch considerably easier than the strengthened glass beneath it and doesn't feel as nice under the finger. If you remove the film, which took me about 3 hours, the glass underneath doesn't have any oleophobic coating and so gets dirty easily. I plan on buying some of the Fusso replacement oleophobic coating on the net soon to resolve this once and for all, but that costs £20 and it shouldn't be necessary.
For me, the Ultra is the MUCH better phone. I'm really happy with mine, probably the best phone I have ever owned. :good:
i just returned my mega to buy a z ultra play edition, the mega wasn't powerful enough and didn't have enough customization options for me.
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I came from a Mega:
This is so much more powerful. Like, crazy powerful. It completely devastates the Mega. It's noticable the second you start using it, its just so fast and smooth.
The second big improvement is the screen. The Mega has an awesome screen for 720p, but the panel in the Ultra is epic.
The third big improvement is surprisingly battery life! The Ultra is considerably better.
Fourth big improvement is in signal quality. I am UK based so don't use LTE currently, but 3G the Ultra gets a stronger signal pretty much everywhere.
It's waterproof, which is never a bad thing.
Oh and I nearly forgot... Roms. There is already an excelent CM10.2 build available for the Ultra, as well as a fair few other roms and obviously the GPE just got announced and that will bring a tidal wave of very high quality roms. The Mega development section on the other hand is virtually a barren wasteland, and being both underpowered and Touchwiz inflicted it is in desperate need of a decent AOSP build. The Ultra is actually fine stock ironically, Sony only lightly skin Android and the stock rom is near-AOSP anyway.
On the downsides:
The Mega did fit in my pocket better, though I still keep my Ultra in the front pocket of my jeans just as I did with my Mega. The angular design looks good, but it is a little impractical on a device this big.
The touchscreen is prone to occasional mistouches, mainly if it's dirty. Not a big issue by any means, but a minus point non the less.
The camera is much better on the Mega, particularly in low light.
The "ASF" screen protection fitted as standard is stupid. It's plastic based, so it will scratch considerably easier than the strengthened glass beneath it and doesn't feel as nice under the finger. If you remove the film, which took me about 3 hours, the glass underneath doesn't have any oleophobic coating and so gets dirty easily. I plan on buying some of the Fusso replacement oleophobic coating on the net soon to resolve this once and for all, but that costs £20 and it shouldn't be necessary.
For me, the Ultra is the MUCH better phone. I'm really happy with mine, probably the best phone I have ever owned. :good:
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thanks for the help.
some of the things that make me weary of the XZU - i think the sharp pretty much sucks and prefer the rounded corners. i'm not sure if it being a bit bigger will be much of a problem or not. i went to the store to try to find one and its not in stock anywhere yet.
i really want a stock android experience though and i'll never ever get that on the Mega since they'll never get MHL to work and i use mhl daily with my appradio 2 and must have it.
that google play edition is so so tempting...i better not even mention i bought another phone after just getting the mega 6 weeks ago.
is it at all easier to use being so much thinner? i didn't think that would matter though in ease of use but not sure.
It's actually ridiculously thin. I have a hard time picking it up from the table. It's almost like trying to pick something flat off the ground and you can't really get a grip. It would've been brutal for the pockets if it was thicker.
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It's actually ridiculously thin. I have a hard time picking it up from the table. It's almost like trying to pick something flat off the ground and you can't really get a grip. It would've been brutal for the pockets if it was thicker.
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do you use a case with it?
i am also confused about this screen protector? is it a protector just built onto the phone that most people don't like or remove but its really hard to take off? i haven't seen any reviews mentioning it.
I'm not using a case. I like to use my devices naked. The screen protector is an "Anti shatter film" that's preventing glass from shattering once you break it. You may remove it if you want to, but I've heard that it takes like three hours to do it since it's really thin and it breaks into tiny pieces. It's not a good protector, so the oleophobic layer (anti smudge) layer will start to come of after some use. Also, since it's a plastic sheet, using pens on it to take notes or draw isn't recommended since it will naturally scratch it. Sony sure employed a brainiac to do this job, and I can't understand why they would do this.
Either way, that's just how it is. You won't notice or even see the protector, and if you get scratches, you can remove it and use your own protector. It just takes a lot of time. You can read all about it in a thread that's lying around here some place.
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do you use a case with it?
i am also confused about this screen protector? is it a protector just built onto the phone that most people don't like or remove but its really hard to take off? i haven't seen any reviews mentioning it.
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I'm using a black TPU case I got off ebay for £3, it doesn't add hadly any bulk but ofers decent protection.
I bought the Mega for the mrs. She wanted a large screen but doesn't need all the bells and whistles and see loves it and is used to TW having come from a note 2.
Honestly I like both devices, but for a hardcore tinkerer like me I had to have the Ultra.
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I'm using a black TPU case I got off ebay for £3, it doesn't add hadly any bulk but ofers decent protection.
I bought the Mega for the mrs. She wanted a large screen but doesn't need all the bells and whistles and see loves it and is used to TW having come from a note 2.
Honestly I like both devices, but for a hardcore tinkerer like me I had to have the Ultra.
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yes, i just wish there was somewhere i could go check out the device before buying it.
the biggest thing i think i will hate is that screen protector on the phone. that seems like the dumbest decision ever to put that on out of the factory.
there is a sony outlet store about 40min from me i wonder if they would have one, surely they would
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yes, i just wish there was somewhere i could go check out the device before buying it.
the biggest thing i think i will hate is that screen protector on the phone. that seems like the dumbest decision ever to put that on out of the factory.
there is a sony outlet store about 40min from me i wonder if they would have one, surely they would
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Give them a call and ask if they have it before you go out the door
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yes, i just wish there was somewhere i could go check out the device before buying it.
the biggest thing i think i will hate is that screen protector on the phone. that seems like the dumbest decision ever to put that on out of the factory.
there is a sony outlet store about 40min from me i wonder if they would have one, surely they would
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You can't see the factory fitted screen protector. I have a normal screen protector on top as well and its invisable if you take your time to install it carefully :thumbup:
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Yeah, you won't notice it at all unless you get some bad scratches. Just treat it as a gadget, and not a piece of meat, and you probably won't get any.
If you have an infant and pictures are key for you then avoid this phone like the plague. I have young kids also and this camera sucks. However otherwise the phone is very good in every other aspect.
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I currently have the Galaxy Mega and absolutely love it...that being said when i saw the google play edition of the Z ultra last night I got a bit envious. has anyone come from the mega and if so what are your thoughts? i know there is little size difference but what were your impressions?
obviously, i'm fine with big phones but i'm concerned about the camera since i have an infant and taking pictures is actually important to me now.
also, i am wondering if you can use the Samsung MHL cable on the XZU as i use mhl daily. would be nice not to have to buy another cable.
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I dont like Samsung products, bcuz they all look like sanitary napkins.
I'm waiting for my ZU to come in the mail I'm so excited coming from a Mega 6.3!
After playing with a friends ZU, the thing that I will appreciate most on the ZU is the faster processor and larger RAM, although I must admit I do wish the camera on it was a bit better with flash!! I'm a girl and I like to take selfies geez... :silly:
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I'm not using a case. I like to use my devices naked. The screen protector is an "Anti shatter film" that's preventing glass from shattering once you break it. You may remove it if you want to, but I've heard that it takes like three hours to do it since it's really thin and it breaks into tiny pieces. It's not a good protector, so the oleophobic layer (anti smudge) layer will start to come of after some use. Also, since it's a plastic sheet, using pens on it to take notes or draw isn't recommended since it will naturally scratch it. Sony sure employed a brainiac to do this job, and I can't understand why they would do this.
Either way, that's just how it is. You won't notice or even see the protector, and if you get scratches, you can remove it and use your own protector. It just takes a lot of time. You can read all about it in a thread that's lying around here some place.
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I owned the original Xperia Z and loved the mobile. Reviewers all gave it some negative feedback as when they sat in the kitchen they could not see the screen from the living room due to what they called "Poor viewing angles". I found this odd and got into all sorts of trouble on one review site, Trusted reviews, where they are anything but' trusted'.
I digress. The Z came with this new 'anti shatter film' Point is within only a few days of very respectful use I could actually see tiny marks on this laminate membrane. I spoke with the Sony importer here who advised me to fit a screen protector, in some countries they where sold with the screen protectors in the box. At that time this confused me as I thought both one and the other where the same thing? Not the case at all.
The anti shatter film is fitted as when the water resistant idea was in development the designers realised that customers would use them by a pool or near water like a beach. This caused some concern as if the phone got wet it became slippery and if dropped the screen could shatter and leave shards of glass all over the place where people could cut themselves (not to mention the cost of emptying and refilling a pool). To prevent any such problem and, I guess, avoid legal action? Sony fitted the new range of water resistant devices with these anti shatter films. Great idea.............
IN PRACTCE they have proved so soft they scratch far to readily and in terms of the Ultra it would be suicide to use a pencil on that anti shatter film.
here again is Sony being innovators of great new developments yet so often dropping the ball at the last hurdle!
I have a very decent screen protector fitted on my Ultra that I always order the same time I purchase any phone, phablet or tablet. I also always purchase a decent cover to further protect the device. I would like to use them without a cover but just cannot bare to think of scratching my devices. So good looking yet the cases do hide their good looks also add greatly to the bulk.
Life is all about compromise though.
I suggest comparing the Samsung mega against the Ultra is an unfair test to start with. Size being the only common denominator. With the exception of the camera, so I am told, the Ultra is made to a higher standard in terms of materials used in construction also the other operational hardware is more advanced. I am a Samsung fan but have never been a fan boy of any brand. Its a question of purchase what satisfies ones needs and requirements. I also own the SG Note 3 and gear, they are both now boxed and in a draw ready to sell.
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You know.. I gotta say, I absolutely love the build quality on this thing.. I was worried about not having a case for it at first..
But, my girlfriend accidentally dropped it like christmas even and that is the only scratch on the thing.. it is a small nearly unable to be noticed scratch on the very bottom right side. And that was onto a brick fireplace by total fluke. (She didn't realize the box wasn't sealed shut and it somehow popped out.)
After having this thing nearly a month, it being in my backpack a few times, my pocket and other places..
I see no scratches dings or anything.. which is pretty impressive. While I have taken pretty darn good care of it.. normally by now you will have something on any given piece of electronic.
Are the HTC phones this good? I'd honestly consider settling for lower specs in the future as long as the build quality was this good... Naturally I have and would use a screen protector but, I must say I am very happy with the current no scratch goodness of my tablet.
Yes, they are built well. I did drop mine from about 3-4 feet and it hit a corner in a case on a hard floor and the LCD went bad. I replaced it and all is well.
I dropped mine down a crack on a sleeper sofa and it put a nice gouge on the side of the tablet, but otherwise it's pretty good. Got a little nick on the screen as well. But otherwise, it certainly feels like a premium device.
Dropped mine screen first on a parking lot. Only a corner was scratched.
HTC is the best. I can't believe the majority of people think Iphones in the same league. You can't even mount it as a flash drive for christ sakes, you have to go through Itunes, after you have to update it every week or it doesn't work lol.
I'll probably get thrown off the forums for admitting this, but I'm an iPhone / Mac user and the View has really impressed me in terms of build quality. HTC's software "improvements", on the other hand... :/
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I'll probably get thrown off the forums for admitting this, but I'm an iPhone / Mac user and the View has really impressed me in terms of build quality. HTC's software "improvements", on the other hand... :/
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All of these products are designed to enhance our lives in ways ranging from fun to productivity.
While we may disagree on preferences or reasons to use certain products, none are really more or less valid than anyone elses.
I don't deny personally having a strong dislike of Apple products, but they are gadgets not a religion.
I'm a veteran myself...
cautiously dropped this baby onto my bed...still 100% functional.
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You know.. I gotta say, I absolutely love the build quality on this thing.. I was worried about not having a case for it at first..
But, my girlfriend accidentally dropped it like christmas even and that is the only scratch on the thing.. it is a small nearly unable to be noticed scratch on the very bottom right side. And that was onto a brick fireplace by total fluke. (She didn't realize the box wasn't sealed shut and it somehow popped out.)
After having this thing nearly a month, it being in my backpack a few times, my pocket and other places..
I see no scratches dings or anything.. which is pretty impressive. While I have taken pretty darn good care of it.. normally by now you will have something on any given piece of electronic.
Are the HTC phones this good? I'd honestly consider settling for lower specs in the future as long as the build quality was this good... Naturally I have and would use a screen protector but, I must say I am very happy with the current no scratch goodness of my tablet.
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you should still get the screen protector as its screen is not a gorilla glass.....more so if you are using pen a lot.....you will get the scratch sooner than later bro! and there are quite a few clear screen protectors around, so grab one!
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you should still get the screen protector as its screen is not a gorilla glass.....more so if you are using pen a lot.....you will get the scratch sooner than later bro! and there are quite a few clear screen protectors around, so grab one!
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Absolutely get a screen protector. They also help reduce glare (if you go with a matte one) which is a real problem with this tablet if you like to watch movies.
I had a screen protector on my Nook Color also, and just before I sold it I put a deep gouge into it by pushing too hard on a cheap capacitive pen. Thanks to my screen protector I was able to sell the Nook with a clean screen, rather than one with a deep gash.
I have a screen protector, but no case on my Flyer. The powder coat aluminum casing seems really durable, and I've been really impressed with it. I've owned it since June I think. I can't seen any scratching on it, despite being laid on tables constantly.
My Desire Z phone has a brushed aluminum battery cover on back, which has a lot of superficial scratches. But the soft touch plastic around it does not show scratches. Every HTC phone is a bit different (a few too many different design, some might say). But in general, they have the highest quality casing design in the business, IMO.
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I have a screen protector, but no case on my Flyer. The powder coat aluminum casing seems really durable, and I've been really impressed with it. I've owned it since June I think. I can't seen any scratching on it, despite being laid on tables constantly.
My Desire Z phone has a brushed aluminum battery cover on back, which has a lot of superficial scratches. But the soft touch plastic around it does not show scratches. Every HTC phone is a bit different (a few too many different design, some might say). But in general, they have the highest quality casing design in the business, IMO.
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Yeah, I can't count how many times I've set my tab on a table and I feel something scraping the bottom that I didn't see when I looked at the table..
Scared the crap out of me the first few times.. I am quite pleased to have no scratches from it yet.
also, I have a screen protector on my flyer.. Found a cheapo zagg at bestbuy.
Tottaly agree. I really like the build quality of the HTC Flyer. The HTC Flyer is my first permanet tablet. I started with a Samsung 8.9 but it went back to the store.
Does anybody think the note will have problems with build quality? I have already pre ordered one and I am having second thoughts now. I keep feeling like that flimsy battery door will be a "squeaker". Other than this concern I am very excited to receive mine!
it will likely fall apart minutes after you receive it. i hereby offer $200 via Paypal to keep you from that tragedy.
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it will likely fall apart minutes after you receive it. i hereby offer $200 via Paypal to keep you from that tragedy.
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I'll give $200 + shipping.
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corey_r said:
Does anybody think the note will have problems with build quality? I have already pre ordered one and I am having second thoughts now. I keep feeling like that flimsy battery door will be a "squeaker". Other than this concern I am very excited to receive mine!
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I don't think it will be an issue at all. All samsung phones as of late have the same flimsy plastic snap on back, and it's not an issue at all on my infuse. I think it's smart engineering, as somehow they keep a rock solid device while making it super thin and super light, all with plastic. I literally have to wrench on my phone to get the slightest squeak out of it.
I really dislike when every youtube review of any samsung phone complains about the battery cover, because it really isn't an issue.
Almost same like the Galaxy s2. Samsung phones dont have very good build quality
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I don't think it will be an issue at all. All samsung phones as of late have the same flimsy plastic snap on back, and it's not an issue at all on my infuse. I think it's smart engineering, as somehow they keep a rock solid device while making it super thin and super light, all with plastic. I literally have to wrench on my phone to get the slightest squeak out of it.
I really dislike when every youtube review of any samsung phone complains about the battery cover, because it really isn't an issue.
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The main reason this concerns me is because I had an htc amaze and it squeaked terribly. Thanks for the reply, you seem to know your stuff.
Back cover is thin and light but does not squeal.
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dipyamanabiswas07 said:
Almost same like the Galaxy s2. Samsung phones dont have very good build quality
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Wow your an idiot!! Samsung has pretty much the best build quality for smartphones and TV's on the market right now. Just YouTube drop tests to see for yourself.. If Samsung is such poor quality then why does every other smartphone company buy parts from them, displays especially?? Everytime you see a phone with a Super AMOLED it was made by Samsung.
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Wow your an idiot!! Samsung has pretty much the best build quality for smartphones and TV's on the market right. Just YouTube drop tests to see for yourself.. If Samsung is such poor quality then why does every other smartphone company buy parts from them, displays especially. Everytime you see a phone wit a Super AMOLED it was made by Samsung.
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Your argument doesn't really make any sense. First off, I can't imagine what TVs have to do with this. Yes, Samsung is one of the largest display manufacturers. Yes, they manufacture panels for other smartphone vendors. Yes, they make a lot of very good TVs too. None of this is related to build quality of smartphones.
Build quality can mean a lot of things, but the way I think of it is "how durable the phone looks and feels." Success at drop tests is certainly a part of it, but imo it's a pretty small part. Some people find that the light, plastic-y feel of Samsung phones seems cheap to them, especially when compared with, say, HTC phones, which tend to use aluminum unibodies. Some people worry that the back covers are fragile because they are thin and bend easily. There are any number of other little concerns that people roll into "build quality" too; part of the reason people tend to disagree so much is that it's a very broad term that covers a lot of aspects of a phone.
I personally don't think that Samsung build quality is poor; I've had several Samsung phones and have never had issues with squeaking of with parts breaking, and I am not convinced that it is statistically more likely for a plastic Samsung phone to break than a metal HTC one, and they are definitely less prone to damage than a glass iPhone. I can understand why some people prefer a heavier, metal or glass phone, but for me, I'm happier with the way Samsung's plastic construction makes their phones thinner and lighter. There are tradeoffs associated with pretty much all design decisions, and I generally feel that Samsung has made good ones.
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The main reason this concerns me is because I had an htc amaze and it squeaked terribly. Thanks for the reply, you seem to know your stuff.
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Thanks for the thanks, haha. I really can't be 100% positive about the note, seeing as I have not held one, but based on the recent track record of samsung, plastic phones can be just as solid as something made of metal. And the plastic definitely gives me peace of mind, as when my phone hits the ground, I know the plastic will absorb much more of the energy than metal will, making it less likely that my screen will shatter. This is most likely why samsung kicks ass in drop tests.
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Almost same like the Galaxy s2. Samsung phones dont have very good build quality
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I respectfully disagree. Just because it isn't made of metal, doesn't mean it doesn't have good build quality. With the combination of gorilla glass and the polycarbonate that samsung uses for their phones, I would say that in my honest opinion, they make some of the best phones out there. Not to mention the beautiful samoled displays that they use; i will never own another phone without a samoled screen. Yes, an iPhone 4 has very attractive design attributes, but for a device that I am carrying day in and day out, samsung has a better design to me. When is the last time you saw somebody without a case on their iphone? I run my infuse with no case because I can, and the fit and finish is every bit as nice.
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Wow your an idiot!! Samsung has pretty much the best build quality for smartphones and TV's on the market right now. Just YouTube drop tests to see for yourself.. If Samsung is such poor quality then why does every other smartphone company buy parts from them, displays especially?? Everytime you see a phone with a Super AMOLED it was made by Samsung.
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Please be respectful, no need to put down others, that's just their opinion. I agree with your reasoning, just not your tactics. Good point with the drop tests though, I forgot how dominant samsung is in those.
The build quality of Samsung phones are far superior to any other smart phones I've used it owned. People assume that plastic is cheap. The back of the note is high grade plastic... Keeps the phone light and won't break. Also, samsungs perform wonderfully in drop tests. To me that says quality build.
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Your argument doesn't really make any sense. First off, I can't imagine what TVs have to do with this. Yes, Samsung is one of the largest display manufacturers. Yes, they manufacture panels for other smartphone vendors. Yes, they make a lot of very good TVs too. None of this is related to build quality of smartphones.
Build quality can mean a lot of things, but the way I think of it is "how durable the phone looks and feels." Success at drop tests is certainly a part of it, but imo it's a pretty small part. Some people find that the light, plastic-y feel of Samsung phones seems cheap to them, especially when compared with, say, HTC phones, which tend to use aluminum unibodies. Some people worry that the back covers are fragile because they are thin and bend easily. There are any number of other little concerns that people roll into "build quality" too; part of the reason people tend to disagree so much is that it's a very broad term that covers a lot of aspects of a phone.
I personally don't think that Samsung build quality is poor; I've had several Samsung phones and have never had issues with squeaking of with parts breaking, and I am not convinced that it is statistically more likely for a plastic Samsung phone to break than a metal HTC one, and they are definitely less prone to damage than a glass iPhone. I can understand why some people prefer a heavier, metal or glass phone, but for me, I'm happier with the way Samsung's plastic construction makes their phones thinner and lighter. There are tradeoffs associated with pretty much all design decisions, and I generally feel that Samsung has made good ones.
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Sorry that was a quick emotional response. I just get mad when people just assume the light plastic of Samsung is poor. I've seen a lot of iPhones and HTC's break or have the screen crack from not very high drops.
I've dropped my infuse a couple of times with just a body glove case and it still looks like new. I think the extra weight of HTC's metal body makes the screen crack easier.
I like how the back cover is so thin that some cases for the note require you to remove that thin back cover all together as the case acts like the back cover. I think it was one that has a flip cover.
if the back cover was a more solid metal, then ppl would complain the Note is too heavy.
it is plastic for obviously a good reason i'd say.
There's nothing wrong with plastic. And there's no squeaks, I own the International version.
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Do you guys think that since it has a larger display it will be easier for the screen to crack in the unfortunate event of a drop? Also, will the note have gorilla glass? I have seen another thread posted about this topic but could not find any official answers. Thanks to everyone for all your opinions and info!
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Do you guys think that since it has a larger display it will be easier for the screen to crack in the unfortunate event of a drop? Also, will the note have gorilla glass? I have seen another thread posted about this topic but could not find any official answers. Thanks to everyone for all your opinions and info!
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Yes it has gorilla glass.
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Does anybody think the note will have problems with build quality? I have already pre ordered one and I am having second thoughts now. I keep feeling like that flimsy battery door will be a "squeaker". Other than this concern I am very excited to receive mine!
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The phone isn't even out yet. Do you see anyone complaining about the international note?
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The phone isn't even out yet. Do you see anyone complaining about the international note?
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Only about the screen, but nothing of build quality.
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Some people find that the light, plastic-y feel of Samsung phones seems cheap to them, especially when compared with, say, HTC phones, which tend to use aluminum unibodies.
^^I have always thought the Samsung phones felt fragile compaired to HTC's
If/when you get the G3, will you put it in a case immediately?
I used to never use cases until I dropped and cracked my Note 2, so now I've always used cases. I didn't mind using one on the G2 since the back was a glossy, slippery plastic and I didn't care for it, but the G3 looks awesome and I'd hate to cover it up.
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If/when you get the G3, will you put it in a case immediately?
I used to never use cases until I dropped and cracked my Note 2, so now I've always used cases. I didn't mind using one on the G2 since the back was a glossy, slippery plastic and I didn't care for it, but the G3 looks awesome and I'd hate to cover it up.
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I plan on 2 cases, 1 minimal case for everyday and 1 dual layer for when I know it'll be more likely to take a tumble.
geoff5093 said:
If/when you get the G3, will you put it in a case immediately?
I used to never use cases until I dropped and cracked my Note 2, so now I've always used cases. I didn't mind using one on the G2 since the back was a glossy, slippery plastic and I didn't care for it, but the G3 looks awesome and I'd hate to cover it up.
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I always use a case to protect the phone. It actually increases the resell value as the phone seems like new after removal of case.
LG made a case for the G3 that enhances the use of QuickCircle™. QuickCircle is basically the use of widgets without turning the whole screen on which can save (very little) battery.
Since my description is horrible, here is a video of it posted by LG themselves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVtZAPjOcBI
case, possibly a mophie if that 3000mAh can't handle the 4k too well, and if it does, then Incipio. I'm not a fan of otterboxes. Both because I don't ever wanna spend 100+ to repair a cracked anything: I like my phone DAPPER. Also for resell value as well. Thats how I buy new ones.
If I do end up getting a G3, I'll certainly get a case. If I were to guess, a case has saved my Nexus 4 at least twice.
I had seen in a background of one of the summary videos a Tridant stand with an array of different colors. Though Tridant does make pretty thick cases so I'll probably stay away from it. Definitely looking for something with a slim design. Probably get another Diztronic
I dont why I dont like the round back of the g3 amazing device and specs but the rounded back feels and looks bad in my point of view.
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geoff5093 said:
If/when you get the G3, will you put it in a case immediately?
I used to never use cases until I dropped and cracked my Note 2, so now I've always used cases. I didn't mind using one on the G2 since the back was a glossy, slippery plastic and I didn't care for it, but the G3 looks awesome and I'd hate to cover it up.
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I saw these cases I've used a poetic case for one of my previous devices it worked out pretty well
its on of the first G3 cases ive seen.
No case why ruin the look of that baby with a case
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No case why ruin the look of that baby with a case
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Would you be saying the same thing if you dropped it and cracked the screen? *knocks on wood* That you don't be I'm curious how many people would say the same once they drop it and have to buy new phones or get it repaired.
Me, I always get a case since I like to protect my investment and better to be safe than sorry. Plus, having a case has saved my phones in the past.
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Would you be saying the same thing if you dropped it and cracked the screen? *knocks on wood* That you don't be I'm curious how many people would say the same once they drop it and have to buy new phones or get it repaired.
Me, I always get a case since I like to protect my investment and better to be safe than sorry. Plus, having a case has saved my phones in the past.
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I hear you but I stopped using cases on my phone going back to the nexus one. I may get a ding or 2 here and there but, knock on wood, I've never cracked a screen. I do use screen protectors and most recently have fallen in love with tempered glass screen protectors.
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I never use cases or screen protector on phones, I keep them naked as god intended
In 15 years with mobiles, I never dropped any of them once.
I usually have a case ready for when I go on holidays, to the beach or in any place where I'll toss the phone in a bag. Apart from that, nope.
It's a problem. When you use a case you keep your phone safe from breaking and scratching, but you lose the light weight, the small size and the ergonomic design. I think I'll try to use it without a case this time.
There are slim cases that don't ruin the phone. I am going to get a clear case made my ringkle I think.
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I will get hybrid case for protection.
Granted, my Note 3 fell in hard ground few times, but it's saved due to protection of hybrid case.
There was a time when I used to swear by the biggest bulkiest cases to protect my device like a baby for resale purposes. But after many years of seeing that I pretty much never drop my phone (due to the way I handle it) and I'm buying these nice feeling slim devices all the time but the whole time I am just holding a thick piece of rubber in my hand and never actually getting to feel the device design, I decided I am done with cases.
Thanks to the recent introduction of tempered glass screen protectors to the market, I can now have piece of mind that in the rare case I drop my phone screen-side down I would still be able to use it without worrying about a single damage to the display itself. I swear by caseless devices ever since I had the Galaxy S3 and I have not regretted the decision since. Of course, such scenario doesn't work for everyone if you are not OCD-like careful with your devices like I am and are prone to drops quite often. In that case I would recommend a high quality ultra-slim case if you want to maintain the design/feel of the phone with just a slightly different material (matte/rubberized plastic cases can actually feel pretty nice, kinda reminds me of the Nexus 5).
i normally don't like to put a case on my phone as it'll disturb the aesthetic intention of the design. however, if its a slim case that doesn't interrupt the design of the phone, then i might consider one.
This makes me think... All these defeat the purpose of the LG g3 slim design.
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There was a time when I used to swear by the biggest bulkiest cases to protect my device like a baby for resale purposes. But after many years of seeing that I pretty much never drop my phone (due to the way I handle it) and I'm buying these nice feeling slim devices all the time but the whole time I am just holding a thick piece of rubber in my hand and never actually getting to feel the device design, I decided I am done with cases.
Thanks to the recent introduction of tempered glass screen protectors to the market, I can now have piece of mind that in the rare case I drop my phone screen-side down I would still be able to use it without worrying about a single damage to the display itself. I swear by caseless devices ever since I had the Galaxy S3 and I have not regretted the decision since. Of course, such scenario doesn't work for everyone if you are not OCD-like careful with your devices like I am and are prone to drops quite often. In that case I would recommend a high quality ultra-slim case if you want to maintain the design/feel of the phone with just a slightly different material (matte/rubberized plastic cases can actually feel pretty nice, kinda reminds me of the Nexus 5).
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I'm the same, rarely drop my phone nowadays and now I use premium screen protectors so the tempered glass protector I just ordered should help the screen from any serious damage.
Not since my S4 do i use cases. Jut make the phone more bulky and ugly. Didn't help my s4 screen just breaking in my pocket from heat change.
I decided to write down some unorganized thoughts about the Z Ultra since the device seems to be piquing many's interest of late with the price drops.
--Running at 1080p on the snapdragon, I imagine it'll continue to fare well against newer phones like the G3 since those use a lot more power to render the extra pixels.
--I'm surprised that Sony's software is uncommonly decent. I was expecting some really awful bloatware but the only bloated application is the small app widget which is actually a nice feature (also easy to remove if desired).
--I especially enjoy how it renders websites like a tablet instead of a smartphone, I don't see this mentioned a lot but it makes a big difference to me from a usability perspective.
--Battery life is average all things considered.
--Speaker quality isn't as bad as some reviews made me expect but I understand why they mention it. You can tell it's actually loud but muffled from the waterproofing since the whole device vibrates when the volume is cranked.
Some drawbacks in comparing it to my last device (Nexus 4):
--This will be the first cellphone I put a case on in years since there are a lot of broken screen reports considering how relatively uncommon the device is. I bet one of the two screens they use can't handle much flex so it cracks when bent in your pocket.
--The glass also doesn't feel as "high-end" as the Gorilla Glass + oleo-phobic coating I'm coming from. Hopefully the GlassM screen protector made of Gorilla Glass can remedy this. Maybe I'm a bit biased from using and having such a positive experience with Gorilla Glass in the past.
--I miss Qi inductive charging (I guess the newer Sony phones have it but not the Ultra).
Overall, I'm not blown away but I'm impressed considering the $300-$350 price it's going for at the moment ($335-$400 to me since I consider it a necessity to put a case and oleo-phobic screen protector on the device).
the glass is good (dragontail) but has a too soft anti shatter film on the top that is a pain to remove
luceri84 said:
I decided to write down some unorganized thoughts about the Z Ultra since the device seems to be piquing many's interest of late with the price drops.
--Running at 1080p on the snapdragon, I imagine it'll continue to fare well against newer phones like the G3 since those use a lot more power to render the extra pixels.
--I'm surprised that Sony's software is uncommonly decent. I was expecting some really awful bloatware but the only bloated application is the small app widget which is actually a nice feature (also easy to remove if desired).
--I especially enjoy how it renders websites like a tablet instead of a smartphone, I don't see this mentioned a lot but it makes a big difference to me from a usability perspective.
--Battery life is average all things considered.
--Speaker quality isn't as bad as some reviews made me expect but I understand why they mention it. You can tell it's actually loud but muffled from the waterproofing since the whole device vibrates when the volume is cranked.
Some drawbacks in comparing it to my last device (Nexus 4):
--This will be the first cellphone I put a case on in years since there are a lot of broken screen reports considering how relatively uncommon the device is. I bet one of the two screens they use can't handle much flex so it cracks when bent in your pocket.
--The glass also doesn't feel as "high-end" as the Gorilla Glass + oleo-phobic coating I'm coming from. Hopefully the GlassM screen protector made of Gorilla Glass can remedy this. Maybe I'm a bit biased from using and having such a positive experience with Gorilla Glass in the past.
--I miss Qi inductive charging (I guess the newer Sony phones have it but not the Ultra).
Overall, I'm not blown away but I'm impressed considering the $300-$350 price it's going for at the moment ($335-$400 to me since I consider it a necessity to put a case and oleo-phobic screen protector on the device).
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1. Bigger glass will aways require more protection. It's the law of physics.
2. I put Glass M and never been so happy with my XZU. Just remember to make it 100% clean when you apply it though. I have this minor dust left so initially i'm mad about that but after a while i'll just let it slide..
3. Magnetic Dock will serve the same purpose as Qi, even better.
I'm a bit nervous about putting the GlassM on with the dust. I've read that taking a hot shower in the room you're working will get rid of the dust in the air so I'll try that with the "hinge method" to align. It's not a cheap screen protector and seems to be taking its time coming from Asia to USA so I'll be irked if I mess it up.
Also, I'm surprised by how affordable the dk30 alternatives are.
If you have ordered protectors for both sides, make sure you put the back one on first, so that if you mess up, it'll at least be on the least visible side. I applied mine in a steamy bathroom and got no specks. Just make sure the surface is clean too.
I recently purchased the Skinomi TechSkin full body protector for my XZU. I have had this brand of screen protector before on my Moto Milestone 2 and Xperia T LT30p, and it did what it said it would do, which is "Protection For Perfection."
I just sold my Z ultra after having it a few months. I too was quite impressed by the software. Though I am one of the few who detests stock android. I will never again buy a Nexus or GP phone. Sony's skin, I find so far, to be the most beautiful android UX to date. And I think their keyboard is the best. Even better than Swiftkey. Finally, LOVE the dualshock compatibility out of the box. It blows away iPega, SteelSeries and Moga.
It was just that little bit too big for me. And despite the thinness, the flat slab design made it uncomfortable for me to hold. Any manufacturer making a phablet needs to look to the Lumia 1520. That phone is a pleasure to hold and use.
I finally got a Oneplus One invite so that is what I am using now. A buddy who has one talked me into it. While he found the phone to be huge (coming from a Moto X) after the ZU, I find it to be absolutely tiny. I am going to miss the large screen and Xperia UX. And it's going to suck going back to a Moga (I don't hack/root)
I'm going crazy reading all the things I'm hearing about the z ultra. I placed my order Friday morning for my c6833 and it will be in my hands on wensday can't wait to fire up this monster
Hi guys.
So i've been thinking about buying either one of these devices.
i'm leaning more towards the z ultra because it's such a gorgeous device, but i don't know if i'll be able to carry it around like a regular smartphone and i've been seeing a lot of complaints about screens breaking.
i really wanted the opinion of you guys on this, how is it to use a z ultra in your daily routine, is it weird to walk around with it on your pocket?
the nexus 5 however, is a beautiful device aswell, but a 5" screen seems too small for me.
so, z ultra, might be too big and fragile?
and nexus 5, too small?
or maybe there is another device that can reach a mid-term?
pin70 said:
Hi guys.
So i've been thinking about buying either one of these devices.
i'm leaning more towards the z ultra because it's such a gorgeous device, but i don't know if i'll be able to carry it around like a regular smartphone and i've been seeing a lot of complaints about screens breaking.
i really wanted the opinion of you guys on this, how is it to use a z ultra in your daily routine, is it weird to walk around with it on your pocket?
the nexus 5 however, is a beautiful device aswell, but a 5" screen seems too small for me.
so, z ultra, might be too big and fragile?
and nexus 5, too small?
or maybe there is another device that can reach a mid-term?
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It must be only me but the last phone I carried in my pocket was a Motorola flip phone years ago. I carry the ZU in a nylon tool holster pouch that clips on to my pants pocket (it also has a belt loop but it stays on fine with clip).
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It must be only me but the last phone I carried in my pocket was a Motorola flip phone years ago. I carry the ZU in a nylon tool holster pouch that clips on to my pants pocket (it also has a belt loop but it stays on fine with clip).
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Carrying around a nylon tool holster is too ugly imo.
but i've seen a few videos and seems like it fits very well in most pants and shorts. want to know if it feels to heavy on the pocket? or weird?
pin70 said:
Carrying around a nylon tool holster is too ugly imo.
but i've seen a few videos and seems like it fits very well in most pants and shorts. want to know if it feels to heavy on the pocket? or weird?
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IN my tighter pants (with smaller pockets) it sticks out a little and is noticeable, in all my shorts and most pants it's fine. Note I have mine in a flip cover so that adds some more bulk to the ZU.
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IN my tighter pants (with smaller pockets) it sticks out a little and is noticeable, in all my shorts and most pants it's fine. Note I have mine in a flip cover so that adds some more bulk to the ZU.
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Hmm nice to know. it realy amazes me how cheap this phone got, it's cheaper than the nexus 5 and the lg g2 and it has that massive screen.
btw, i saw a review from a guy saying it uses gorila glass 3, but i don't think it does, can anyone clear that out?
and, is there a chance of the screen breaking just by using it in a mildly tight pocket ? cause i've seen a lot of posts here saying the screen is very fragile.
The Z Ultra really isn't fragile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Rf2q4b-24
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The Z Ultra really isn't fragile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Rf2q4b-24
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What about weight wise, does it weights in your pocket?
I don't find the phone to be heavy at all, especially for its size. It's freaking huge though, which can be a burden at times.
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I don't find the phone to be heavy at all, especially for its size. It's freaking huge though, which can be a burden at times.
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What times? examples please .-. so i can see if that would be a problem for me.
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What times? examples please .-. so i can see if that would be a problem for me.
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Carrying it around in your front pocket, which i do, can be uncomfortable when you're sitting down, bending, etc. I wear loose fitting jeans, and im 6-2", so it isn't too bad. This Phone is just plain huge though, and it will be a problem for some people.
Watch this video and check out this girl trying to stick it in her pocket.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...MVGWeE8wxdZZuB-8Q&sig2=Ye2WtM06Kf2ZAvFZ9XGV9Q
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Carrying it around in your front pocket, which i do, can be uncomfortable when you're sitting down, bending, etc. I wear loose fitting jeans, and im 6-2", so it isn't too bad. This Phone is just plain huge though, and it will be a problem for some people.
Watch this video and check out this girl trying to stick it in her pocket.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...MVGWeE8wxdZZuB-8Q&sig2=Ye2WtM06Kf2ZAvFZ9XGV9Q
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Hmmm. firetruck! that just made me more unsure, cause the phone is extremely cheap right now with such an amazing hardware. would you happen to know any good phone with a screen bigger than or equal to 5.5 and same hardware for the same price?
You can buy a 1+
Doesn't have to buy where i'm going to buy.
is the lg g2 or nexus 5 any good?
Wait for the nexus 6 google it i was announced today
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Wait for the nexus 6 google it i was announced today
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Can't, it'll be released in november and i'll be doing a trip at the end of this month, and i'm going to buy the phone there cause it's way cheaper than where i live.
i'm still in doubt between the lg g2, nexus 5 or the z ultra :/
I had the nexus 5 and switched over to the xzu.. I have to say given the opportunity I'd take back my Nexus 5. Don't get me wrong performance wise and price they are both on par. I've installed a ported version of the Google play edition Rom and it works perfectly well. Downside is the size of this device,, it really is massive and I bought it thinking I would get use to it eventually... 2 months on and I'm still having a hard time getting use to holding it. Also I'm not sure if this issue is wide spread but the screen on this thing is super sensitive (no screen protector). When I say sensitive I mean as in I get random presses from just about anything from screen condensation, breeze and oil smudges and it gets so annoying especially when you're trying to compose an email and it hits the send button mid way. I've even tried out a hack to reduce the screen sensitivity but it still occurs from time to time. Also coming from a Nexus line I have to say there's barely any activity or new developments in the XZU forums,,something you might want to consider if you're into customizing or flashing roms all the time.
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I had the nexus 5 and switched over to the xzu.. I have to say given the opportunity I'd take back my Nexus 5. Don't get me wrong performance wise and price they are both on par. I've installed a ported version of the Google play edition Rom and it works perfectly well. Downside is the size of this device,, it really is massive and I bought it thinking I would get use to it eventually... 2 months on and I'm still having a hard time getting use to holding it. Also I'm not sure if this issue is wide spread but the screen on this thing is super sensitive (no screen protector). When I say sensitive I mean as in I get random presses from just about anything from screen condensation, breeze and oil smudges and it gets so annoying especially when you're trying to compose an email and it hits the send button mid way. I've even tried out a hack to reduce the screen sensitivity but it still occurs from time to time. Also coming from a Nexus line I have to say there's barely any activity or new developments in the XZU forums,,something you might want to consider if you're into customizing or flashing roms all the time.
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i think i'm sticking with the z ultra afterall.
i've received a very positive review of this smartphone by a friend of mine who owns one, he says this is the best phone he ever had.
Just remove the ASF and apply a tempered glass over for reinforcement. No more ghost touches and you get the best experience.
Also you get the naked Nexus look on front without logo.
Best device I had in years and trust me I had a lot, including Nexus 5.
Sent from my Ultra
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Just remove the ASF and apply a tempered glass over for reinforcement. No more ghost touches and you get the best experience.
Also you get the naked Nexus look on front without logo.
Best device I had in years and trust me I had a lot, including Nexus 5.
Sent from my Ultra
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I'm holding on removing the ASF for now since I have to order the glass screen protector which takes about 4weeks to arrive from hongkong.
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I'm holding on removing the ASF for now since I have to order the glass screen protector which takes about 4weeks to arrive from hongkong.
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Yeah i'm going to keep the ASF until it actually starts giving me problems.
i just have one more question,
is there any difference in the z ultra GPe and the regular Z ultra?
is it only the stock android? if yes, can u get the stock android for the regular version of z ultra?