Hi,
I'm getting low on space message on my hero running VillainRom 6.1. Tried rebooting, still there. I've only tried to install one or 2 apps with the message there, so not sure if thats actually been affected.
settings-->sdcard & phone storage-->internal storage shows 14.83mb
quick system info shows:
sd card storage free 2.14gb
a2sd storage 249mb free (total 457mb)
system cache 129mb free
memory 37.35mb free
there doesn't seem to be any more processes running than usual - only around 3-4.
I do have quite a lot of apps, over 100, probably closer to 200, I havent counted.
btw thanks to everyone on this site, I'm new to flashing roms but having fun learning, and my phones definitely got a new lease of life.
use the apps2sd checker to make sure its working. If it is id say increase your partition from 512 to more
Just because the app is installed on the sd card (assuming its working properly) doesn't mean the davilk cache for the app has moved. unless you move this as well (which isn't really recommended) each time you install an app system memory will still go down a little.
Lennyuk said:
Just because the app is installed on the sd card (assuming its working properly) doesn't mean the davilk cache for the app has moved. unless you move this as well (which isn't really recommended) each time you install an app system memory will still go down a little.
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http://4943922026776299669-a-180274...lcSrZUn2-7KkHiRo-ew0R2SEebAQ==&attredirects=0
u need this which is an update. copy this file into the root of the memory card and through the recovery image install it from "zip file from sdcard"
after that restart the phone and check your memory is should be 120mb
Indy_Hero said:
use the apps2sd checker to make sure its working. If it is id say increase your partition from 512 to more
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thanks for the suggestion
a2sd check script says its working fine, also checked via adb shell.
This is what I then did to the partition size:
I copied SD card contents (both partitions) into ubuntu.
then I put SD back into phone and repartitioned using 1gb for ext2
then I copied back SD card contents from ubuntu.
I assumed this would work, but when I booted I was getting FC all the time. Bart backup sorted it out but I am still left wondering why this method of increasing partition size didnt work??
In any case quick system info shows a2sd has more space, but still got low space message.
qasi said:
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u need this which is an update. copy this file into the root of the memory card and through the recovery image install it from "zip file from sdcard"
after that restart the phone and check your memory is should be 120mb
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seems to have solved the problem!! thanks alot mate.
would you by any chance out of interest know why copying ext2 contents from sdcard as outlined above didnt work? - may have some future relevance if changing/upgrading roms.
Thanks again
neuro_99 said:
thanks for the suggestion
a2sd check script says its working fine, also checked via adb shell.
This is what I then did to the partition size:
I copied SD card contents (both partitions) into ubuntu.
then I put SD back into phone and repartitioned using 1gb for ext2
then I copied back SD card contents from ubuntu.
I assumed this would work, but when I booted I was getting FC all the time. Bart backup sorted it out but I am still left wondering why this method of increasing partition size didnt work??
In any case quick system info shows a2sd has more space, but still got low space message.
seems to have solved the problem!! thanks alot mate.
would you by any chance out of interest know why copying ext2 contents from sdcard as outlined above didnt work? - may have some future relevance if changing/upgrading roms.
Thanks again
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this is because the ramon recovery image had been linked with ext2 with a 512mb partition and u selected 1gb. im not quite sure about that.
chnagin rom is quite simple beucase you have to is
1.backup using nandroid
2.make sure you wipe everything. (also battery and rotating settings)
3. Re partition your sdcard to hold 1 ext2 partition and last partition should be the rest in fat32
4. Flash the rom you want through "zip file from sd card"
5. Reboot.
im a newb so i dont have much knowledge but patching up problems that i had, so that i can help others.
it can be pain especailly rooting!!!
So thats how you would flash a rom, but what if you wanted to keep your a2sd apps? So you dont have to install them all over again in the new rom when you wiped everything.
I think I read somewhere that it should be possible to leave the contents of ext2 as it is, and that should carry forward to the next rom, but I havent been able to test it myself yet.
From what I understand, the 8GB of internal storage on the DX2 is divided into 2GB for apps, 4.3GB free to do whatever with, and the rest for Android. Right now out the 4.3GB of free storage I have ~800MB unused, which implies I've used 3.5GB. However, when I connect my phone to my PC and scan the contents of that 4.3GB of free storage, it shows that there is only 2.2GB of data on there. Where is the remaining 1.3GB and is there any way I can access/delete it to free up space?
I thought around 2gb was set aside for application storage.
I have no idea how much stuff u have on ur internal storage but u may want to move storage for pictures and.music to external storage..u can just move music files and the DCIM folder to external sd card and reboot which should free up some space...also try clearing cache from stock recovery to see what that frees up if u have never done that...
also in camera app settings to make ur pics store directly to sd card there is a setting for that so u don't have to manually move them...
Hy Drippis Welcome to the forums,
First off let me say if you want to solve a problem with your phone if you follow what ashclepdia says you'll never go wrong he has a great deal of knowledge on these phone's.
Second I never liked this type of labeling system for the storage on this phone.
Third a short explanation of the storage on our phone's.
Our phone has the following, according to VZW and Moto:
- 8GB of internal storage. This breaks down as 2 GB secure memory and 6 GB of usable memory.
- 8GB of external storage which refers to the removable SD card behind the battery.
In the 2 GB lives the Android system files and installed applications with most of their associated data. Some programs are accustomed to using the "sd card" which I will get back to in a minute. You can look at the status of this 2 GB in 2 different ways: 1. Settings - Storage - Application storage, "Available Space"; 2. Settings - Applications - Storage Use - All - Application Storage (on the bottom of the screen).
The 6 GB can be viewed by: 1. Settings - Storage - Internal Storage; 2. Settings - Applications - Storage Use - Media Area.
When you move things to the Media area, you are taking a portion of the installed app from the 2GB and moving it to the 6GB, which is similar to the way in tho older phones, you moved apps to the SD card. So, the question is why do we move apps to the SD card? In older phones there was far less "internal storage" and you would literally run low on memory for apps. New phones have much more space, so unless you are installing lots and lots of apps, it shouldn't be a problem.
With our phone, they have included internal, hard wired, SD Card-like storage, which can be used, mounted/unmounted, just like an external SD Card. The Media Area is simply a folder on this remaining 6 GB area. In some cases, this is automatically done by some apps, for backup purposes or caches.
Hope this is of some value 2u..
If this was helpful, be sure to press the thanks button!
These aren't the droids you're looking for.
Thanks for the responses. Although informative, they didn't answer my primary question so let me clarify. Not enough storage isn't the problem. I've already set up and moved all my pictures, movies, music, etc. to my 32 GB external sd card. My issue lies with the 4.3 GB of free-to-do-as-you-please storage on the internal sd card.
Out of this 4.3 GB
I've used 2.2 GB
And it says I have .8 GB free
Which leaves 1.3 GB missing
I guess I'll boot into recovery and wipe cache to see if that does much.
Not sure if this matters with regard to this issue, but I had been running P3's pre-rooted GB since I got this phone and earlier this week I flashed Eclipse 1.3 (loving it). I did wipe data before applying the zip.
Drippis said:
Thanks for the responses. Although informative, they didn't answer my primary question so let me clarify. Not enough storage isn't the problem. I've already set up and moved all my pictures, movies, music, etc. to my 32 GB external sd card. My issue lies with the 4.3 GB of free-to-do-as-you-please storage on the internal sd card.
Out of this 4.3 GB
I've used 2.2 GB
And it says I have .8 GB free
Which leaves 1.3 GB missing
I guess I'll boot into recovery and wipe cache to see if that does much.
Not sure if this matters with regard to this issue, but I had been running P3's pre-rooted GB since I got this phone and earlier this week I flashed Eclipse 1.3 (loving it). I did wipe data before applying the zip.
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I CAN say that if u are running 1.3 eclipse on p3s GB u are on the wrong kernel and that may cause some problems ...
not sure if that's what's causing this issue for u or not. .
also when on eclipse the sdcard and internal storage are flip flopped. to see what space u have on internal storage go to settings>storage>sdcard....that is ur internal storage space when on eclipse....
bootstrap does not recognize that flip tho fyi....
my first recommendations is getting on the 2.3.4 kernel by sbf to 2.3.4
if u flashed 1.3 over p3droids rooted gb then u are still on 2.3.3 kernel ..
which can cause issues...since any eclipse 1.0 or later needs u to have the 2.3.4 kernel...only way to change kernel is sbf or OTA update.
there is a sticky on how to sbf in this forum...don't be intimidated...it is very simple...follow instructions ...
edit::: how bout a screenshot of ur storage setting screen and also ur about.phone screen.((screen shot er (or er2) from market works just fine))
Look in a file manager and see if you have a file named ".trash-1000" or something similar. If you are viewing your files on a PC, it will be a hidden folder. See if you have any files in there. When you delete something it creates a .trash folder and keeps it on your storage device like the recycle bin does on your PC. I think its supposed to "empty" itself but may not have. If you have files on there, you can just delete the whole .trash folder. Just a thought.
Tired of that small 5gb usb storage? Here is my hack to swap your external SD card with the USB storage!
This is usefull especially if you use GPS apps that download maps or games that download big data files! I got the idea and studied several hacks for the galaxy 1900 so partial credit goes to whoever made those hacks.
DISCLAIMER : I have only tested this on the 4.0 U.S version running 2.3.5 and am not responsible for a brick (although it seems impossible to brick your phone while messing with this file).
So basically start by going to /system/etc using root explorer or similar (yes, you need root). Once there backup the vold.fstab file to somewhere ON ROOT (I put it in /data/app/)! This is important so you can access it if you need to restore it (also make sure root explorer is installed on device memory, not SD card). Now take my modified vold.fstab and replace the original in /system/etc, then change the permissions to rw-r--r-- (long click the file, then select permissions) . If all goes right after you reboot your device, USB storage should now be your SD card and vise versa! Be aware any apps on your USB storage will now have to be transfered using a PC, move the .android_secure folder to your SD card. Hope it works!
EDIT: here is a modified version for the yp-g70, all credit goes to rjsmith2007 for making and testing this!
Won't Maps pull data from the Ext SD anyway? All my music is on ext SD and players have no problem finding it; I would think maps would be the same. It's really like a 5gb and 16 gb (in my case) partition (isn't it?).
I'm looking for a reason to root, SD card/space is not one of them. My battery only charging to 90% is though, need to recalibrate (since it's never hit 100%)
tcat007 said:
Won't Maps pull data from the Ext SD anyway? All my music is on ext SD and players have no problem finding it; I would think maps would be the same. It's really like a 5gb and 16 gb (in my case) partition (isn't it?).
I'm looking for a reason to root, SD card/space is not one of them. My battery only charging to 90% is though, need to recalibrate (since it's never hit 100%)
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I am referring to when you download maps with an app like sygic;
it saves it to the /sdcard/ directory instead of the /sdcard/external_ed/. Also gameloft games do the same and can use up your room pretty fast. I find this pretty useful myself, since I have a 32gb sd card, but just wanted to post it so if anyone does ever need it, it's here for them.
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DISCLAIMER : I have only tested this on the 4.0 U.S version running 2.3.5 and am not responsible for a brick (although it seems impossible to brick your phone while messing with this file).
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I just tried it with my Galaxy S Wifi 5.0. The mapping of the internal sd to the external_sd folder fails, but it works for mapping my external sd to the sdcard folder.
Edit: I took a look at the original and made a modification to yours to work with the YP-G70 model (the 5 inch one). Just copy the file from within the zip folder to your /system/etc folder.
rjsmith2007 said:
I just tried it with my Galaxy S Wifi 5.0. The mapping of the internal sd to the external_sd folder fails, but it works for mapping my external sd to the sdcard folder.
Edit: I took a look at the original and made a modification to yours to work with the YP-G70 model (the 5 inch one). Just copy the file from within the zip folder to your /system/etc folder.
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Thank you! I appreciate it! I post it on the original post and give you the credit.
Thanks man. I appreciate it. I was trying to do this myself before, but ended up having to format my SDcard and gave up. Thanks for the help!
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Thanks man. I appreciate it. I was trying to do this myself before, but ended up having to format my SDcard and gave up. Thanks for the help!
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glad I could help!
Can't I just copy all of the data from my internal sd card onto my computer, remove the internal sd card, copy those files onto a larger sd card and put the larger sd card back into the galaxy player? Im sorry if this Queston has been asked before, or if it sounds stupid, but I can't find the answer to this Queston anywhere! Thanks in advance!
(P.S) This post was made with a Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0! No joke!
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Can't I just copy all of the data from my internal sd card onto my computer, remove the internal sd card, copy those files onto a larger sd card and put the larger sd card back into the galaxy player? Im sorry if this Queston has been asked before, or if it sounds stupid, but I can't find the answer to this Queston anywhere! Thanks in advance!
(P.S) This post was made with a Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0! No joke!
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Hi,
There's still a bit of confusion with respect to terminology, I think (including myself).
I *think* that when the SGP5 displays "internal sd card", it's only part of the "internal 8GB memory". That "internal 8GB memory" is probably, I guess, something like an SDCARD or flash memory module that's soldered to the mainboard, and with Android, I think that it's split into a couple of areas.
Here's my "guess" of how things are arranged, using the terminology from Settings==>SD card and device storage:
"System storage": Part of the 8gb internal memory, e.g., includes /system, etc.
[1.65GB, in my SGP5]
"USB Storage" = "internal sd card" = /sdcard: The rest of the 8gb internal memory.
[5.01GB, in my SGP5]
"SD Card": The external microSD card, if you have one plugged in. Appears at /sdcard/external_sd.
[29.81GB, in my SGP5, where I have a 32GB microSD card plugged in.]
That System storage + USB Storage totals 1.65+5.01 GB, or 6.66GB. I guess the remainder of the 8GB is for bootloader, etc.?
Jim
Looks about right. Task Manger has them labeled like you list them, except there is a "Personal data" partition. It's 133mb on my 5.0. Maybe email and contacts?
I'm guess apps get installed on "System Storage", plenty of room there without having to move stuff to USB or Ext. I pretty much just use my ext card for media and pictures.
For some reason this caused issues with my Market connecting to the internet, any idea why? Anyone else experience issues with this modification?
Hmm, no no one has mentioned that problem, and I have been using this for months - no problem. Sorry if it did that, have you tried restoring the original? Also, an update to the instructions is to change the permissions to rw-r-r. I didn't notice anything wrong without changing the permissions, but you never know.
jimcpl said:
Hi,
There's still a bit of confusion with respect to terminology, I think (including myself).
I *think* that when the SGP5 displays "internal sd card", it's only part of the "internal 8GB memory". That "internal 8GB memory" is probably, I guess, something like an SDCARD or flash memory module that's soldered to the mainboard, and with Android, I think that it's split into a couple of areas.
Here's my "guess" of how things are arranged, using the terminology from Settings==>SD card and device storage:
"System storage": Part of the 8gb internal memory, e.g., includes /system, etc.
[1.65GB, in my SGP5]
"USB Storage" = "internal sd card" = /sdcard: The rest of the 8gb internal memory.
[5.01GB, in my SGP5]
"SD Card": The external microSD card, if you have one plugged in. Appears at /sdcard/external_sd.
[29.81GB, in my SGP5, where I have a 32GB microSD card plugged in.]
That System storage + USB Storage totals 1.65+5.01 GB, or 6.66GB. I guess the remainder of the 8GB is for bootloader, etc.?
Jim
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Pretty close.
https://github.com/Entropy512/initramfs_yp-g70/blob/master/misc/recovery.fstab is the Player 5.0 partition table.
As you can see, nearly everything is on partitions of mmcblk0 - on the Player 5.0, this is eMMC (embedded MMC) storage. The total size of mmcblk0 is 8GB
The partitions here include (but are not limited to):
p10 - EFS - this contains device-specific config data, on phones that includes IMEI, on our device it's probably Bluetooth and WiFi MAC addresses
p11 - Kernel
p12 - Recovery (on some devices, recovery is a separate kernel partition - Samsungs have this partition set aside even though most of their devices don't actually use it. You can put anything you want on p12 and it won't do anything usually. For us, recovery is part of the kernel initramfs on p11)
p13 - /system - This is where the system firmware, often called the "ROM" sits. A number of people are trying to fight the "ROM" terminology, since it's not really true - flash isn't read-only, thus it isn't the "ROM" any more
p14 - In the linked file it's /datadata, but the device actually mounts it as /dbdata - various SQL databases for apps live here
p15 - /cache - a cache partition separate from data. Files stored here are intended to be safely wipable/deletable
p16 - /data - Various user data. Your apps live here unless you've moved them to SD. Most system settings are here too. ICS merges this partition with the internal SD so they are one and the same
p17 - /emmc in recovery and, if someone ever has the time to port it, CM7, /sdcard in Samsung factory firmwares. This is the "internal SD card".
There are a few other partitions that are not touched by recovery that exist, such as the LFS partition and the bootloader partitions. These are all small.
mmcblk1 is the external SD. Usually only one partition, which is /sdcard in recovery/CM7 and /sdcard/external_sd in Samsung factory firmwares
On the 4.0, I believe it uses Samsung's older NAND flash technology and not eMMC, so the partitions on internal storage appear as stlN/bmlN
i think i did something disaster...
i am using Samsung Galaxy W. I did follow your above instruction. The problem is after restarting my phone, I go to setting>storage and it shows total space and available space for SD card and USB storage is UNAVAILABLE. What is available is only Device Memorry which is 1.03GB.
Thinking that your vold.fstab is not compatible with my Samsung Galaxy W, I replace it with the original vold.fstab that I backed up earlier. However this does not solve the problem.
Then what I did is I tried to reset the phone to its original factory setting (Setting>Privacy>Factory Data Reset..),. Unfortunately the same problem still persist. And i think this is silly and catastrophic step since i loss my original vold.fstab which is stored in the internal memory.
Any of you can help me?
Many thanks to all of you
Well, did you change the permissions on your backup back to rw-r--r--? And yes, this mod should only be used for the device intended for. Are you sure that you replaced the modified vold.fstab with the original one? Did it give you an warning about overriding (it should have)? Are you sure you used your backup and not accidentally mine? What program did you use to copy?
Hmm stupid question, but how do you replace the existing file? I am using root explorer an it says it is read-only when I try to paste it in there.
Edit... Never mind... I didn't have it mounted correctly.
I have tried this multiple times, but every time I reboot it says "USB storage damaged, may need reformatting." So I press reformat, and it's done in like 1 sec and the problem still persists.
Any ideas?
Hmm, odd. I know you have the same version player as me, are you running 2.3.5 or 2.3.6, maybe that could affect it? Did you try before you did a lot of modifications to your device? What type of SD card you got, I use a 32gb class sandisk. I don't think that would matter, but you never know. I recall getting that error when I was working on the mod, but I got it fixed before I released it. Weird.
Oh yeah, what do you have your sd card formatted as? I use FAT32, not sure if that could affect it. May want to try reformatting the card on a PC, then try.
I have a 8gb kingston micro sd card, and I'm running 2.3.5. I had this problem a long time ago too when I was still on stock. Maybe it's my sd card. I will reformat it and try again, and if it doesn't work I will try a different sd card.
Has anyone else had problems installing larger apps? I tried installing "Broken Sword" from one of the Humble Bundles a while ago. It seems to just stop installing and says the application can not be installed. There is no detailed error at all.
I can install other (smaller) applications from the bundle. Maybe the partitioning is decided in a wrong way, I have the following:
Internal memory:
11,87GB - 11,52 free
Internal memory:
1,00 GB - 759 MB free
SD-Card:
7,41 GB - 5,69 GB free
The apk I want to install is on the SD-Card already and is 540MB which shouldn't be too much for any of the memorys, except maybe the second internal memory? Why is there this second internal memory?
SOLUTION 1: If you don't use an external SDcard changing the mount point of /sdcard1 and /sdcard0 should help, there is a package for that there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32093304&postcount=179
OR you might want to consider to just make /sdcard1 a symlink to /sdcard0 with at least the drawback of not being able to use external sdcards anymore, as long as this is a symlink and not a directory - and maybe other sideeffects!
SOLUTION 2: Specifically for this app, the app itself has some glitches, see there the last post on how to install this specific app: http://forum.revolution.co.uk/topic/636/?page=4
Thanks for help and clarifying, maybe a repartition will be needed? (If it is needed, any link to a useful guide for someone that can manage UNIX / GNU/Linux systems but doesn't know too much Android specific stuff would be the most helpful)
Or is the problem maybe another one?
The partitioning isn't the issue, what else could be the problem?
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My System Details:
Nook Tablet bought from ebay with CM10 (I think) installed already in internal memory, but no working internal recovery - installed CWM 6.0.3.7 and CM10.1.2 internally using a bootable CM10.1.x sdcard. Maybe the partitioning also isn't the default but was done by the pre-owner.
Okay, seems like size wasn't the issue
I repartitioned according to the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531120
And now made internal memory 1 to be 3,3 GB and Internal memory 2 to be 9,99 GB
Any of these still has enough space left, so there must be another problem ... any help?
Then some other issues that seem to persist: adb is shown "offline", I am running Linux and don't need to mess with Windows driver issues, all relevant solutions that I found for this didn't work, I also tried with data/factory reset and a new cm10.1.2 and nothing else on the system, still it is always "offline" ( adb in cwm works ).
Is there overall something else to care about with the Nook Tablet that I might have overlooked? It is also not too nice that the usual "central resource" for installing CM ( http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_acclaim ) does only show a non-working general guide... but I don't want to complain
I am also having the same issue. I have a nook tablet 16gb running CM 10.1 with 3.3 GB Internal Storage for all of the apps and 9.99 GB Internal Storage for everything else.
I have 2.8 GB free on the apps storage partition and 9 GB free on the other partition. when I go into Settings --> Apps and look at the SD Card tab, I see that 326 MB are listed as available for SD Card storage with 0 MB. I am not using an external SD Card.
I am unable to "move to SD Card" for any apps even though the option is highlighted. All apps have installed fine, but when I ran Minion Rush for the first time it stopped and said that I need 70 MB of available SD Card storage space to download additional data for the game. I have plenty of space available on both partitions, but for some reason this app doesn't recognize either of these partitions as an internal SD Card.
Is there a way to configure this device to use either of these partitions as internal an SD Card?
bluesock said:
Okay, seems like size wasn't the issue
I repartitioned according to the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531120
And now made internal memory 1 to be 3,3 GB and Internal memory 2 to be 9,99 GB
Any of these still has enough space left, so there must be another problem ... any help?
Then some other issues that seem to persist: adb is shown "offline", I am running Linux and don't need to mess with Windows driver issues, all relevant solutions that I found for this didn't work, I also tried with data/factory reset and a new cm10.1.2 and nothing else on the system, still it is always "offline" ( adb in cwm works ).
Is there overall something else to care about with the Nook Tablet that I might have overlooked? It is also not too nice that the usual "central resource" for installing CM ( http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_acclaim ) does only show a non-working general guide... but I don't want to complain
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I figured it out bluesock. There is a former post that provides a solution. There is a ROM you will need to install that will fix this issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32093304&postcount=179
I copied the ROM to an SD Card then booted up into CWM and installed this ROM. After the reboot the second partition is renamed to SD Card and shows 10 GB of total space. Under file manager this partition is listed as sdcard 0 instead of sdcard 1. After that I was able to install apps of any size successfully.
Ok this "ROM" basically only modifies /system/etc/vold.fstab and switches sdcard0 around with sdcard1. This probably helps when not having a sdcard like in your case.
My problem wasn't this one, I have an external sdcard - so both sdcard0 and sdcard1 have enough space left!
But there was a problem with this specific app, check the last post on how to install: http://forum.revolution.co.uk/topic/636/?page=4 - sorry for not reporting back earlier, I will edit the first post in some minutes with our two "solutions" / explanations.
But first:
For you the better solution might be to do what digixmax said in that thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430335
I will reply there in some seconds with more details about what he said!