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Just curious how people feel who have played with them a few days.
If android never comes, are you happy with the device as is? Is the current crop of apps and the OS not sufficient and you bought it only with the hopes of android?
Do you like the existing OS and if android is never ported would you still be happy with your purchase?
I think for 99/149 I don't see many complainers but just curious what people think who've had the device a few days.
I have had it a few hours and I am very happy, the few thins i really want my tablet to do it is do wonderfully, even more happy than my Nook Color on CM7. honeycomb on the NC might be nicer, but until a HC port comes to touchpad i doubt i'll put android on it.
If no android then its ****. I don't like the webos. ANDROID is farrrrrrrrr better.
I agree that android is so much better.. one thing that would make this thing collect dust on my desk is the lack of apps.. I must admit that i did get it mainly for the potential of an android port. I am of no help porting android but if that doesn't happen relatively soon then I think it will be on eBay..
I have a question for those that may be more familiar with webos... when i am listening to music and plug my headphones in, it still plays the music on the speakers and my headphones, which as you know defeats one of the main purposes of headphones.. LOL is it a bug or intended?
I really like it, I think webos makes more sense on a tablet than android currently does, but that's imho. Its a shame they dumbled in the beginning of the os game, it could've been something special. Inductive charging is really cool, I misses that after I got rid of my pre and its cool to have it back. I'm surprised more devices don't have it. The tp isn't great for app happy people, but out of the hundreds of appa I've tried on ansroid I only use 3 or 4 of them regularly ans the tp's internet ia more than capable of replacing some of them.
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For what I paid and what limitations they inherently have, I couldn't justify paying more than $150 with any OS on it. I'd like to see some more games on the WebOS side but at $150 I'm happy with it and it wouldn't be worth any substantial money to have more.
Even if Android doesn't come, I am happy with my purchase. I really like the way a lot of things work in webOS. But I will replace the OS with android if it gets a polished build.
Even if you only use the touchpad as a digital picture frame, you can't get one with this size and quality of screen for $99.
For what I paid and what limitations they inherently have, I couldn't justify paying more than $150 with any OS on it.
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You wouldn't pay more than 150 even if it had android on it? Say it was an official android device and it was 200 bucks. You wouldn't think that was a deal?
Like it so far the audio is great.
Mine is sitting quietly in my office, waiting for someone to work some magic with Android. I've played around with webOS for a few hours but that got boring fast. This is my first tablet purchase and even at the firesale price I'm not impressed. I see little use for tablets beyond being a source of occasional entertainment for people with money to burn.
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i manage to get two 32gb,
i give one to my wife with the intent to keep it stock webos and the other for me to play and maybe flash android one day.
i love android ,but 115 british pounds for a capacitor screen with a browser that support flash,a decent email client,photos and video playing,music sound good(due to the thickness of the tablet i think the speakers take advantage of that),just a bit heavy.
what there is to don't like.??
definitely not a 400pounds worth,but definitely 115.
don't forget the nice 50gb free cloud space that comes with it.
thumb up for me.
So far, I love my decision to purchase it. I picked two up, one for me and one for the girlfriend. WebOS is very smooth and looks amazing but needs some more apps which could come with the huge influx of Touchpads. I will be looking forward to an android port just to mess around with it and decided which to keep.
I've currently applied a few speed patches and have it overclocked to 1.5GHz and it flies.
I feel like the screen clarity sucks. I have never used a tablet before, except a brief use of a ipad during a checkout, but the touchpad screen looks blurry to me. It remind me of the old school color screen nextel phones i95.
I've had it for almost a day now. Very happy after I finally got the patch installed, it's pretty ridiculous to have to click the thing 20 times to get the patch to finish.
When I bought it I had fully intended to flash android when it's ported, but now I think I'm going to stick with webos for quite a while. There's nothing that I really miss from the Nook Color so far, and webos has a far better browser and keyboard than android.
I bought one and ordered another (that I hope will someday arrive). After playing with this one for a few days... I wish I had bought a few more.
Yeah, app catalog is lacking, but as a previous poster said, $100-150 for a 9.7" capacitive, snappy internet slate is awesome. I'd love to permanently mount one in the kitchen for recipes and whatnot, and replace the "family calendar".
Can anyone comment on the readability of PDFs on the Touchpad? That is the primary reason I would be buying this to supplement my nook color.
The NC is perfect for everything except finance/accounting/technical PDFs , for which I'm hoping the 10" screen of Touchpad would be better?
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I agree that android is so much better.. one thing that would make this thing collect dust on my desk is the lack of apps.. I must admit that i did get it mainly for the potential of an android port. I am of no help porting android but if that doesn't happen relatively soon then I think it will be on eBay..
I have a question for those that may be more familiar with webos... when i am listening to music and plug my headphones in, it still plays the music on the speakers and my headphones, which as you know defeats one of the main purposes of headphones.. LOL is it a bug or intended?
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Same thing happened to me when I plugged in my beats by Dre solo hds.. did the software update and problem was eliminated..
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Proud owner its still in the unopened box, haven't had time to open it and get into it enjoyably.Plan to keep it stock Web OS, I owned a palm pre and enjoyed it. I still believe Web OS is underrated and some users don't see the brilliance of it. I would have paid more if I had to. But the idea of flashing anything on it talks to the flashing geek in me haha. I would be more interested in flashing window 7 on it (not sure if it's a option) just saying.
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Can anyone comment on the readability of PDFs on the Touchpad? That is the primary reason I would be buying this to supplement my nook color.
The NC is perfect for everything except finance/accounting/technical PDFs , for which I'm hoping the 10" screen of Touchpad would be better?
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the built in app is decent at PDFs
I'm actually surprised by how much I like mine. I have a honeycomb tablet, also, and the hp is actually very enjoyable to use. It definitely lacks in expandability, since the app catalogue is def smaller, but I actually like it a lot.
That being said, definitely not worth the original price. 150$ (32gb) maybe.... we'll see in a few weeks.
after a string of cancelled orders, I decided to just suck it up and buy one from CL. I paid about 40$ over tax+shipping but it's worth not having to deal with shopping around while at work. I'm much more productive and I actually have my toy in my hands.
That being said I'm keeping my eyes open for a 16gb for my daughter to play with, hopefully HP SMB will have some more tomorrow.
Sprint has updated their end of life list... And it now includes the View...
Is this a sign of the death of this tablet as a hole? Flyer is barely sold and the View is EOL...
Or maybe this is pointing to new tablets during the HTC press event coming up...
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All electronics have a limited lifecyle. The problem with the Flyer and View isn't that they reached EOL so soon, but rather that:
1) The tablets were priced too high, and so sales weren't as robust as HTC would have liked
2) HTC was too slow in porting Honeycomb. In fact, the Honeycomb upgrade pretty much coincided with the tablets being discontinued. Contrast that with the ASUS Transformer Prime, that was released only a few weeks ago (and is still scarce) and already has an ICS upgrade.
EOL doesn't mean much to me. Heck, it might even be a good thing it they release the complete source code.
I mean my captivate is not only EOL, it isn't even sold anymore at all... I still have ICS on it the Galaxy Nexus even hit retail.
Biggest tragedy imho is if something happened to my flyer I wouldn't be able to get another one..
I think it has more to do with the fact that sprint is moving to LTE and they will stop selling all wimax products this year. They will only have their wimax networks online until 2015. Maybe that's why they gave me mine for $0.99. And no activation fee.
It only means sprint wont sell or support it any longer.. (No updates, patches, etc..)
For all those who scooped up the 1saleaday deal (in early December or the one last week ). This is why you got a great deal (I got 3 of em). Sprint wanted to dump them before they had to sell them for $100. Even if you use sprint.. this means nothing. It will still work and (I'm pretty sure) you can still activate it.
If you plan to use it as wifi only (like me).. then this means less than nothing.
XDA Devs offer WAY better support and upgrades than any carrier.
Don't worry. My team (CypherTeam) will be working on an ICS port as soon as we get a final HC build finished. The view will live on and as others stated, reaching EOL just means that we'll get the source faster and be able to do whatever we want.
It really doesn't come as a surprise to me that it came so quickly bc the specs on the View/Flyer are not up there with the majority of tablets. That being said, with the source we should be able to get this thing running close to 2ghz with no issues.
I didn't pay $99, I paid $0.99 or 99 cents. I couldn't believe it was that cheap. I had to have a plan to get it that cheap, but I have 6 business lines now, so the 15% discount makes the tablet plan end up being free, and I use it pretty much exclusively wifi anyway.
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I think it has more to do with the fact that sprint is moving to LTE and they will stop selling all wimax products this year. They will only have their wimax networks online until 2015. Maybe that's why they gave me mine for $0.99. And no activation fee.
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Wait what? You got the Evo View for 99 cents??
Is that with a 2 year contract??
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Don't worry. My team (CypherTeam) will be working on an ICS port as soon as we get a final HC build finished. The view will live on and as others stated, reaching EOL just means that we'll get the source faster and be able to do whatever we want.
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Does that mean view hopefully can be used on LTE NET ?
Yea HTC definitely dropped to ball with the pricing of it.
Our tablet is still awesome, single core but comparative in speed to dual core tablets out there in the market.
I'm really happy with my purchase.. now I wish we had more dev interest around for our devices
Yeah they were priced as high as a dual core 10 inch honeycomb tablet yet only had a single core, gingerbread, and a 7 inch screen. Don't get me wrong I prefer the 7 inch size, but not for the same price as a bigger tablet. I mean honestly with its high clock speed and 1 gig of ram, it feels as fast as any dual core tablet and I think it could of been a hit had htc priced it at say $300 at launch.
Imo I think they shouldn't be so quick to give up on them. I think they should update them to ics and sell them new for $200. I guarantee it would be a hit especially over the craptastic kindle fire!
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In all fairness to HTC the tablet out right feels like a 500$ tablet.. which is what made the 300$ price tag so sweet.
My girlfriend ordered one off of ebay just yesterday because her Nook Color just doesn't compare. She uses it too much like a tablet and even after loading CM7 and what not on it, is just tired of constantly fixing issues..
The tablet has a premium feel and if they could make profit at 200$ I would think they would have already priced it at 200$..
The acer A100 is an alternative to the flyer at 250$ and as cheap as 200$.. It sure as hell doesn't feel like the flyer and lacks a lot of the refinement. The problem is now, even at 200$ people would look at the specs and never even try it out before looking down on it.
People are more concerned with specs than actual experiences these days.. (well in the phone world at least.. in the desktop world specs mean a bit more).. It really is sad that because of marketing techniques and the way devices are sold that the flyer gets over looked..
I finally bought my Flyer yesterday. Though there were many choices in the same price range (including iPad 2), I had made up my mind due to the no-nonsense spec.s, solid build & of course, the pen! And I must say, I am thoroughly impressed by this baby..looking forward to being a part of the XDA Flyer community..
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In all fairness to HTC the tablet out right feels like a 500$ tablet.. which is what made the 300$ price tag so sweet.
My girlfriend ordered one off of ebay just yesterday because her Nook Color just doesn't compare. She uses it too much like a tablet and even after loading CM7 and what not on it, is just tired of constantly fixing issues..
The tablet has a premium feel and if they could make profit at 200$ I would think they would have already priced it at 200$..
The acer A100 is an alternative to the flyer at 250$ and as cheap as 200$.. It sure as hell doesn't feel like the flyer and lacks a lot of the refinement. The problem is now, even at 200$ people would look at the specs and never even try it out before looking down on it.
People are more concerned with specs than actual experiences these days.. (well in the phone world at least.. in the desktop world specs mean a bit more).. It really is sad that because of marketing techniques and the way devices are sold that the flyer gets over looked..
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I also started with the nook color as my first tablet.
Quickly sold it though because I got a hell of a deal with the HTC flyer.
I recommend flashing the CM7 ROM directly to the emmc/hard disk on the NC. Don't rely on the microSD card.
I had issues too until I did this.
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I'm due for an upgrade now, and browsing through the phones on the Verizon store (I can't upgrade through any third party due to the fact I'm on a business account) the only decent 4g phone is the rezound.
I'm currently on a 2 year old Xperia Play, 3g, and it's only redeeming factor is the cool slide out gamepad I use to this day. However, it's seen better days and I gotta retire it. So my question is, is the Rezound worth the free price tag? I hear that rooting it is on the easier side, and that I can squeeze battery life/power out of it through this method, but I'm pretty new to phone hardware/software.
It's either that or pay 50-150 bucks for a new phone. I'd honestly rather not pay anything, but knowing that this phone is a full year old at this point might influence that decision.
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I'm due for an upgrade now, and browsing through the phones on the Verizon store (I can't upgrade through any third party due to the fact I'm on a business account) the only decent 4g phone is the rezound.
I'm currently on a 2 year old Xperia Play, 3g, and it's only redeeming factor is the cool slide out gamepad I use to this day. However, it's seen better days and I gotta retire it. So my question is, is the Rezound worth the free price tag? I hear that rooting it is on the easier side, and that I can squeeze battery life/power out of it through this method, but I'm pretty new to phone hardware/software.
It's either that or pay 50-150 bucks for a new phone. I'd honestly rather not pay anything, but knowing that this phone is a full year old at this point might influence that decision.
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If you're willing to spend the money, I strongly recommend the GSIII. I got mine for $99 right before Christmas.
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I'd rather have something like a gs3 too. I really like this phone but would trade it in a heart beat for a gs3.
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The rezound was ahead of its time so font let the one year mark scare you. However, if your gonna have to keep this phone for two more years you'd be better off with a newer peice of hardware, like the sgs3 or the DROID dna. Also the DROID razr m doesn't look to bad but idk about the modding process for moto phones
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I've had my Rezound for a while now and I'm always looking at which phones are new. So far, because I don't like huge screens and I like my micro SD card I don't see many new phones for me. I also prefer HTC phones because of the superior cameras. So at this point the Rezound is still a good phone, but it doesn't seem to have 2 years worth of life left.
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The DNA feedback has been surprisingly good. Battery life is amazing, and it runs like a beast straight out of the box unrooted.
However it's been out a while and like always, there's something better on the Horizon. The GS3 is a nice phone but I wouldn't burn an upgrade for it if you plan to keep your next phone longer than a year or so.
I can't say much about the rezound that's negative. Most of the comments people made who were unhappy was back before we had official ICS firmware and ice cream sandwich source code.
Since you're considering spending a little money on a newer phone anyway, have you considered buying a cheap rezound from a third party (as in a nice used one off contract) and saving your upgrade for the next batch of new phones?
The other advantage there is the readily available development, and HTC dev unlock and s off, all of which exist already.
A friend of mine had an older phone that was decent, but wanted a new toy. He held his upgrade but bought a mint nexus 7 off of somebody local for an extremely cheap deal. Just throwing out ideas, I know it's not likely that's something you're wanting to do.
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I'm probably not the person to ask. I don't buy on contract anymore (not losing my unlimited), and there's really not another phone out that interests me right now anyway. The DNA is the only one that piques my interest at all, but I'm waiting for an AOSP RIL. Samsung is the only other manufacturer that has anything resembling an attractive package to me right now, but I don't like Samsung phone hardware (their screens completely kill the deal for me). All things considered, the Rezound is still the right phone for me right now, but I'd be hard pressed to recommend one on contract.
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I'm probably not the person to ask. I don't buy on contract anymore (not losing my unlimited), and there's really not another phone out that interests me right now anyway. The DNA is the only one that piques my interest at all, but I'm waiting for an AOSP RIL. Samsung is the only other manufacturer that has anything resembling an attractive package to me right now, but I don't like Samsung phone hardware (their screens completely kill the deal for me). All things considered, the Rezound is still the right phone for me right now, but I'd be hard pressed to recommend one on contract.
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I can agree with that. I love the brightness and vibrance of my GSIII screen, but it is nowhere near as sharp as my rezound. The battery life is pretty sick though.
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The battery life on the Rezound is, in my opinion, very poor. The only way my Rezound is useful to me is with the extended battery, which renders the phone a brick. Also, I'm tired of "plasticky" feeling phones. I haven't held a Droid DNA in my hands, but from what I've read about it, it feels more solid. That being said, I wouldn't get a Droid DNA until there's a strong dev community around it.
Appreciate the response guys. I'm probably going to just hold on to my upgrade. My Xperia Play may be a piece of garbage but it makes calls, browses reddit, and plays gameboy ROMs. I would have loved to get the 4g version of my phone but they just keep phasing out old phones and bringing in new ones so damn often.
Any phones I should be looking out for? I'm considering the DNA, but at 200 dollars on an upgrade that's pretty steep for me. Also, is a lack of micro SD becoming an industry standard? I don't keep up with the news like this, but reading some reviews for the DNA leads me to believe the 16 gig internal storage is all you get. I hope they don't go the way of Apple with memory capacity.
No. Save your upgrade for the next generation of phones.
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Appreciate the response guys. I'm probably going to just hold on to my upgrade. My Xperia Play may be a piece of garbage but it makes calls, browses reddit, and plays gameboy ROMs. I would have loved to get the 4g version of my phone but they just keep phasing out old phones and bringing in new ones so damn often.
Any phones I should be looking out for? I'm considering the DNA, but at 200 dollars on an upgrade that's pretty steep for me. Also, is a lack of micro SD becoming an industry standard? I don't keep up with the news like this, but reading some reviews for the DNA leads me to believe the 16 gig internal storage is all you get. I hope they don't go the way of Apple with memory capacity.
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That's becoming the industry standard on high end smartphones. Completely sealed except for the SIM slot. No expandable memory, no replaceable battery. I can see good and bad in it. I could easily get by with 8GB if I had to with everything I do being so cloud connected, but having more is nice and I don't like losing the option. The battery being internal is definitely doubled edged. It lets them optimize the battery to better utilize the internal space, which lets them squeeze the most out of the battery they can, but there are days I just need to pop a new one in.
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That's becoming the industry standard on high end smartphones. Completely sealed except for the SIM slot. No expandable memory, no replaceable battery. I can see good and bad in it. I could easily get by with 8GB if I had to with everything I do being so cloud connected, but having more is nice and I don't like losing the option. The battery being internal is definitely doubled edged. It lets them optimize the battery to better utilize the internal space, which lets them squeeze the most out of the battery they can, but there are days I just need to pop a new one in.
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Unfortunately the downfall to non expandable memory and cloud solutions is the tiered data plans that people are being forced into. Streaming any kind of music from say... Google music's cloud storage will burn through your data like you wouldn't believe(I have almost 10 GB of music on my phone). I just... don't like it. That's one reason I opted for my GSIII. The ability to have a 64GB SD is worth being behind slightly in software or hardware.
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I just got the rezound today for free coming from an s2 on Sprint. I must say I'm pretty impressed! It's a bit heavy and I'm not rooting until I my 14 day trial is up. The beats headphones is a win win. Keyboard sucks but I'm overall happy for my first day. I'm more concerned about this 2gb of data I'm sharing with my girl than the phone itself. The DNA looks good but the battery and no expandable memory killed it for me
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I love my rezound, but like others said..save ur upgrade. Ive always wanted an xperia play
Battery life is the only complaint I have on the rezound. Even a year old its as good or better than most other phones except a few high end phones. My wife got a razr m two months ago and its a very nice phone. Aside from the screen resolution its better than the rezound in almost everyway hardware wise. It's exactly the same hardware as the razr hd but a smaller screen. And it has jb. The ppi is crap on it is the only bad thing. And built in battery. But it does have an sd card. For an inexpensive phone it is extremely nice. But I still love my rezzie.
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Right now is quite possibly one of the worst times to upgrade your phone. Just keep waiting, and you'll be glad you did. Seriously.
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I'm due for an upgrade now, and browsing through the phones on the Verizon store (I can't upgrade through any third party due to the fact I'm on a business account) the only decent 4g phone is the rezound.
I'm currently on a 2 year old Xperia Play, 3g, and it's only redeeming factor is the cool slide out gamepad I use to this day. However, it's seen better days and I gotta retire it. So my question is, is the Rezound worth the free price tag? I hear that rooting it is on the easier side, and that I can squeeze battery life/power out of it through this method, but I'm pretty new to phone hardware/software.
It's either that or pay 50-150 bucks for a new phone. I'd honestly rather not pay anything, but knowing that this phone is a full year old at this point might influence that decision.
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the GS4 is in production right now and the samsung mobile director said at CES that he needs to crank it out ASAP to stay competitive. Just be patient
I've had my rezound fit amidst a week and got 10 hours battery life today with light use and still have 30%
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I'm probably not the person to ask. I don't buy on contract anymore (not losing my unlimited), and there's really not another phone out that interests me right now anyway. The DNA is the only one that piques my interest at all, but I'm waiting for an AOSP RIL. Samsung is the only other manufacturer that has anything resembling an attractive package to me right now, but I don't like Samsung phone hardware (their screens completely kill the deal for me). All things considered, the Rezound is still the right phone for me right now, but I'd be hard pressed to recommend one on contract.
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I am in the same boat as you. I renewed my contract before they stop grandfathering unlimited contracts and got the rezound. At this point I see no reason to upgrade. The phone has GSM, great screen, good camera, 4G(best part ), and it feels good. I would recommend this phone if you are in the market for a free one. If your desires are for something else make sure to research the community behind the phone. The GSIII has a CleanROM for it but unfortunately the developer jumps devices faster than most people can keep up. The rezound just got a relatively stable version of jelly bean that is only going to get better.
What's up everyone @ xda... first of all i am new here.. my name is Ericka, wanted to say thanks for having me here & allowing me to post!
Ok so the reason for my post... i am looking to purchase a tablet & a new cellphone this week. I love to 'tinker' with things... always have, started with computers (windows) and got decent at developing windows desktop applications in visual studio, learned basic php, web design etc. Now i want to get a basic understanding of the inner-workings of tablets/cellphones running android... eventually start developing apps to go along with my websites i build online (social network type stuff) & eventually im hoping to actually get into custom rom development/feature hacks etc way down the line...if i end up having a knack for it
Alright...main question....if you had a fairly small budget (see paragraph below) and wanted to purchase both a tablet & a cellphone... for the sole purpose of "messing with them"... testing out lot's of different rom's.. figuring out how they work internally... testing out your own custom apps (i dont play mobile games at all...so dont factor that in the specs), and ill be using the tablet to login my pc from work with teamviewer etc. With all that said...which ones would you buy? Obviously I guess i am looking for the tablets and phones that have the most amount of "options" available.. easiest to take apart, find things, hack etc. as in (software/function wise). And preferrably the ones that have the most amount of "actual people/developers" working on them..involved with them... aka "fans of the phones/tablets". You know the ones that have active communities of people i can interact with... along my journey of non-desktop disovery...aka... figuring out this mobile/tablet/wifi/cellphone/android thaang
Oh ya, my budget...super weak... i can't spend more than like $200 or less per-device... i do have a cell contract with verizon (my samsung stratosphere just died, also it had 'hella-limited' dev support) so i might be able to 'upgrade' to a more expensive cellphone possibly....but the tablet i am probably going to have to pay for out-of-pocket. Hopefully my budget won't leave me out of the game entirely...i know that all the 'new devices' i see out there are like 500+ minimum.. Anyways I work 2 jobs.. no fam to help...im just trying to work with what i got. :angel: So thats why i signed up here first thing....I figured if i had any hope of being pointed in the right direction, it would probably happen here.. seems like a lot of intelligence combined into one lil place @ xda
#ericka #geek #lyfe
p.s. thanks for taking the time to read my post..im not gr8 at putting my thoughts into keyboards..sorry if it's confusing.. only like my 2nd forum post ever!
Tab: nexus 7, not sure on cell, I left Verizon a year ago and I had a galaxy nexus then
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Tab: nexus 7, not sure on cell, I left Verizon a year ago and I had a galaxy nexus then
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I was reading an article the other night @ work about the 'best developer phones/tabs' and it mentioned the nexus series of devices. There are just so many different models/types...wifi/3g/4g, wifi only, different cpu speeds, ram sizes etc. It's all very confusing to a mobile/tablet device #noob. When i research android stuff..every article gives a different opinion leading to yet another article.. all of which just seem to be advertisements for selling apps/new cellphones.. almost nothing seems to be 'user-generated' just people with agenda's. I can't afford to make a mistake and end up with a tab/cell that's anything other than "perfect" for me.. i only save enough $ for new hardware like once every 3 years...so i am just really trying hard and putting this time/effort into making sure i talk to people like you who really know what's up.
Anyways thanks for that suggestion! I just feel stupid...cuz im so good with windows/desktop computers...i got it "down"...i mean just built a #killa #box running a i7-3770k, liquid cooled, ssd's with raptor backups..16gb of DDR3, a R.A.T. mouse for precise graphic design, logitech backlit led flat keyboard.. smoothly running on my own custom windows 7 build/all non-essential services removed..all wrapped up in a stormtrooper looking stryker box. Visual studio and my own apps/services run like water flowing down from a waterfall...i just have like an instinct almost for desktop stuff. When it comes to this mobile/tab stuff.. its like im 15 again learning windows xp..starting over.. but i will figure it out...hopefully with a lil help from you guys!
Nothing can beat nexus devices, nothing comes close..
U can develop apps on anything but custom Roms , huge Dev support, it is nexus. abt various models , they are 3g / 4g, 16gb/ 32etc, now u choose the one that fits our need, these are not different models u see, everything else is same
If budget is less u can go for used nexus or older model
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Tab: nexus 7, not sure on cell, I left Verizon a year ago and I had a galaxy nexus then
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maverickronny said:
Nothing can beat nexus devices, nothing comes close..
U can develop apps on anything but custom Roms , huge Dev support, it is nexus. abt various models , they are 3g / 4g, 16gb/ 32etc, now u choose the one that fits our need, these are not different models u see, everything else is same
If budget is less u can go for used nexus or older model
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How easy is it to 'custom yourself' into some sense of anonymity with mobile devices. I.E. when the app your using says it gets full access to your phone #, contacts, txts/sms info etc. ...2 Change your gps location, show them a faux cellphone #..i.e. 1-800-ITS-NOT-1984, give them a list of "Grandmas Famous Cookies #1 " through #15 as your entire contact list. I know making myself have some semblance of privacy in the world of "google play" will be the very first things im going to sort out/figure out. Things like that (privacy apps etc.) are what fueled the interests of an entire generation windows developers ya know? If 10 years ago someone said that webpages would get access to your full name, phone #, all of your emails...access to your harddrive......it would have been the death of the internet/pc as we know it. Somehow people just decided recently that any time-killing game is worth handing their family history/life over for. IMO it's kinda pathetic... so those things are first on my list!
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How easy is it to 'custom yourself' into some sense of anonymity with mobile devices. I.E. when the app your using says it gets full access to your phone #, contacts, txts/sms info etc. ...2 Change your gps location, show them a faux cellphone #..i.e. 1-800-ITS-NOT-1984, give them a list of "Grandmas Famous Cookies #1 " through #15 as your entire contact list. I know making myself have some semblance of privacy in the world of "google play" will be the very first things im going to sort out/figure out. Things like that (privacy apps etc.) are what fueled the interests of an entire generation windows developers ya know? If 10 years ago someone said that webpages would get access to your full name, phone #, all of your emails...access to your harddrive......it would have been the death of the internet/pc as we know it. Somehow people just decided recently that any time-killing game is worth handing their family history/life over for. IMO it's kinda pathetic... so those things are first on my list!
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with a rooted nexus u control which app has control to what
I would suggest you to buy a Nexus 7 2012 as a tablet as it's much much cheaper nowadays when the new version of Nexus 7 was released, but if you have a higher budget than that I would gladly suggest you to purchase the Nexus 7 2013 version.
For phone, I would also suggest a Nexus device, maybe the Nexus 4 as it has dropped alot in price due to the release of Nexus 5 but it's still a great and rapid device which runs very smooth and is really well optimized.
All of those devices are made for development in mind, and there is a huge variety of custom roms for those devices.
I hope that my advices helps you to chose a device which you will like!
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I would suggest you to buy a Nexus 7 2012 as a tablet as it's much much cheaper nowadays when the new version of Nexus 7 was released, but if you have a higher budget than that I would gladly suggest you to purchase the Nexus 7 2013 version.
For phone, I would also suggest a Nexus device, maybe the Nexus 4 as it has dropped alot in price due to the release of Nexus 5 but it's still a great and rapid device which runs very smooth and is really well optimized.
All of those devices are made for development in mind, and there is a huge variety of custom roms for those devices.
I hope that my advices helps you to chose a device which you will like!
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I went to t-mobile yesterday afternoon after posting this..... first of all they are offering to pay off my contract @ verizon. Then they have the new Nexus 7 tablet (with the snapdragon 1500) & nexus 5 phones. After detailing the plan for (both) to me... it looks like $16/mo for each device per month (assuming my credit is good enough).
Overall $100 a month for unlimited service + the 2 devices... (assuming i paid for the mobile hotspot option) which im guessing i won't need since I'm going to root the nexus 5 and use something like opengarden etc. So without the mobile hotspot option [data] it might be about $80/mo total...does that seem like a good way to go...or should i really just look into purchasing the Nexus 7 (2012) and Nexus 4 in cash?
Either way I'm glad i looked into this...my current bill monthly at verzion is $102...for 405 anytime minutes on a crappy samsung stratosphere, which is literally incapable of running instagram for more than 20 minutes...it got lagged out/and heated up to about 120 degrees, and started dropping it's 4g connection in that time 20min time frame.
Ericka93 said:
I went to t-mobile yesterday afternoon after posting this..... first of all they are offering to pay off my contract @ verizon. Then they have the new Nexus 7 tablet (with the snapdragon 1500) & nexus 5 phones. After detailing the plan for (both) to me... it looks like $16/mo for each device per month (assuming my credit is good enough).
Overall $100 a month for unlimited service + the 2 devices... (assuming i paid for the mobile hotspot option) which im guessing i won't need since I'm going to root the nexus 5 and use something like opengarden etc. So without the mobile hotspot option [data] it might be about $80/mo total...does that seem like a good way to go...or should i really just look into purchasing the Nexus 7 (2012) and Nexus 4 in cash?
Either way I'm glad i looked into this...my current bill monthly at verzion is $102...for 405 anytime minutes on a crappy samsung stratosphere, which is literally incapable of running instagram for more than 20 minutes...it got lagged out/and heated up to about 120 degrees, and started dropping it's 4g connection in that time 20min time frame.
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That seem's like a good way to go, actually I would suggest you to go that way as those phones and tablets are wayy better than the ones I suggested you. But they are bit more expensive, that's the only downpart which I can find.
So I would suggest you to grab that deal
Ericka93 said:
I went to t-mobile yesterday afternoon after posting this..... first of all they are offering to pay off my contract @ verizon. Then they have the new Nexus 7 tablet (with the snapdragon 1500) & nexus 5 phones. After detailing the plan for (both) to me... it looks like $16/mo for each device per month (assuming my credit is good enough).
Overall $100 a month for unlimited service + the 2 devices... (assuming i paid for the mobile hotspot option) which im guessing i won't need since I'm going to root the nexus 5 and use something like opengarden etc. So without the mobile hotspot option [data] it might be about $80/mo total...does that seem like a good way to go...or should i really just look into purchasing the Nexus 7 (2012) and Nexus 4 in cash?
Either way I'm glad i looked into this...my current bill monthly at verzion is $102...for 405 anytime minutes on a crappy samsung stratosphere, which is literally incapable of running instagram for more than 20 minutes...it got lagged out/and heated up to about 120 degrees, and started dropping it's 4g connection in that time 20min time frame.
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Same plan I have with t-mo
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That seem's like a good way to go, actually I would suggest you to go that way as those phones and tablets are wayy better than the ones I suggested you. But they are bit more expensive, that's the only downpart which I can find.
So I would suggest you to grab that deal
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Thanks for the suggestions everyone...I ended up taking your advice.
Went today & picked up my nexus 5.... the nexus 7 (2013) wasn't "in-stock"...supposedly I'll have it in 4-6 days though.
Omg..the difference between my old stratosphere & this nex-5 are like...1990's nintendo to 2013 PS4. In for quite a shock though when I went to install instagram/twitter, took a detailed look at the "rights" I would be giving up...laughed my butt off..then clicked each one to read each part in its entirety.. I can't believe people are willing to grant app's access which would essentially make their "tiny computer" with 3-6ghz of processing power & 10mbps average connection become 100% remote controllable by an app developer!! The only applications made for windows that gather this much information + can turn on your webcam without notification + can intercept your raw communications + create raw sockets (and run custom network protocols)...would be black market trojan's which are encrypting their data with custom protocols...the types used by script kiddies you read about in google tech news. I'm sure you guys are all used to this by now...but you can just imagine my lil geeky jaw dropping when I realized the full scope of the corporate information grab taking place right now in the mobile market. It's like my geek ex-boyfriend once told me..."If it's possible and not technically illegal.. you better believe every company that matters is already doing it"
So my first step will be figuring out how to get a custom rom on this phone... selectively choose what information/or b.s. information I'll be providing any app's I pick to take a look at. Any suggestions on where to get started? I would really love to learn mobile technology (android o.s.) from the ground up...the same way i learned how to use a p.c... in such a way that i have the "most" amount of control of my system as possible
ok got it rooted....now how do i go about modifying what apps see (not blocking, but providing b.s. info)
p.s. the captchas on this site are ridiculous.... most spammers hire humans to type in captchas now....so all its doing is making our life harder, its not stopping anyone from spamming forums
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ok got it rooted....now how do i go about modifying what apps see (not blocking, but providing b.s. info)
p.s. the captchas on this site are ridiculous.... most spammers hire humans to type in captchas now....so all its doing is making our life harder, its not stopping anyone from spamming forums
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app ops can do it
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app ops can do it
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Yes it can... i did some research on it. I'm lucky enough to have gotten Android 4.4 KitKat (KRT16M) so App Ops is enabled on my phone. Thank god I didn't upgrade to the latest 4.4.2 etc. Because apparently in that operating system... App Ops is no longer enabled.
Thanks for the suggestion! I'm on my way to learning all this great/cool stuff!
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Yes it can... i did some research on it. I'm lucky enough to have gotten Android 4.4 KitKat (KRT16M) so App Ops is enabled on my phone. Thank god I didn't upgrade to the latest 4.4.2 etc. Because apparently in that operating system... App Ops is no longer enabled.
Thanks for the suggestion! I'm on my way to learning all this great/cool stuff!
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Lol, do upgrade, we have appops for 4.4.2
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So, I thought this could be interesting. This could be a thread for all people that still use HTC EVO 3D.
We can discuss here: WHY? Why do you still use it
This model dates back from 2011, and it never became a popular model, like some other HTC models.
I bought mine in 2012, and I use it to this very day. It's still preserved, almost in mint condition, even though I use it every day. It only has a little scratch in the lower left corner.
During these 2.5 years, the phone was taken only once to the repair shop (digitizer broke), it was around a year and a half.
Since then it works like a charm.
I never played video games (except things like Mahjong), I use it for internet, calls, messaging and I watch a lot of videos on it. Battery life is good, the only downside it hasn't received any official update for any of the newer Androids. It's really massive, and I like the casing. Some Samsung models (like Galaxy S2, and even S3) look like toys (light and plastic) compared to EVO 3D Interesting fact - I never used the 3D camera, and I never heard someone else did
What are your thoughts?
I use it as MP3 player and activated it on freedompop. Contemplating buy m7 since that has LTE. I am also using cm11 with no gaps with Amazon app store installed to preserve battery life
I was really hot on it and shelled out quite a bit when it appeared 2011 on the European market, and I will use it as long as possible for my money I consider myself not a heavy but steady user, that is I read my xda, newspaper pdf and my comics in a browser everyday. It has enough memory to preload my 30 comics web pages so when I commute by train an the net is spotty I can still read everything. Oh and yes, I indeed use it to take 3d pics every now an then, that was the original idea when I bought it back then. I use to take 3Ds with my regular 3D cam as well, and so my gallery's 3D pics take quite a share on the 64GB sd card.
anecdote: Just for fun I once loaded 54000 pics (a decade's worth of pics) on the sd card. worked ok, but the indexing of the gallery took forever, every boot...
Apart from not top speed compared to newer phones it still is fast enough, thanks to heavy modding and custom ROMs. No need for Lollipop so far, still on ICS.
I still love it!
Cheers!
i bought it on march '12 since it was cheap at the time (one s and one x were around the corner so i just picked a nice sale)! the phone is still capable of running basic things, and the only reason i would upgrade is camera, i simply hate evo's one! for the moment i'll keep it, i wanna wait and save some money since i want my next phone to be a BIG upgrade in every aspect! this is the reason i won't buy phones like moto g: it's a great phone, maybe it would be good enough for me, but 1gb ram really pisses me since i already have on my evo!
we'll see
oh, and by the way, it survived a nice fall in a Sabaton's concert few days ago, not even scratched another guy wasted his nexus 5 instead
EDIT: here's my evo's point of view (bad audio because i was really close to speakers) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/80890387/2015-02-03 21.12.38.mp4
I still use my evo 3D because i have no money now to change it!
But I would have waited until this year anyway because this year there will be a revolution with the new 20nm processors of Snapdragon! (My dream would be the htc hima).
2014 it wasn't a year of innovations! if I were to change now my phone, I would buy a LG g2 for 250 Euros.
Then i will wait I think this summer or maybe the end of 2015 to change the phone, hoping that my HTC alive until that day!
Meanwhile I expect @Hahaburger continues its glorious project (cm12) on our phone! And with a 3.4 kernel I hope still in a sense 5 a day
@Snoob25 I assure you that even in the disco the effect of the audio is the same
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Great to read this much anecdotes.
I'm glad the topic picked up
As a mp3 player in my car, and activated on freedompop to stream music or even use GPS. Using CM11 no gapps with amazon app store and browser to side load apps not available. FP for what ever reason is not taxing data when streaming. Not at all complaining. I have also used it as a hot spot except spring 3G speeds are abysmal at best. I am surprised at how well streaming works most of the time
I bought mine last year for $50 including the hdmi adapter.
3d screen and camera are fun. They merit development even though HTC bowed out.
too bad ics is the only way to have that camera.
us cdma, virgin mobile, $35 plan, by the way.
my evo does pretty well running a really stripped-down stock 4.0.1 with varying kernels (currently jcfunk's butteredtoast build) with xposed, aide, terminal.
alongside chroot armhf ubuntu 14.04 with xserver xsdl instead of vnc, which even allows a certain amount of gl acceleration from ubuntu.
no chroot sound yet have I figured out though.
It keeps up with the Toshiba laptop I was using until last year (though I had 2gb ram shoehorned into that) but I can't use the android build system on arm, even if I had something fast enough to use it properly.
I can build kernels and other software fine on it though, and have.
it entertains me while I work to pay the bills, supply the children's never-ending need for new commodities, and consider when I'll be able to save enough for a desktop to replace my poofed one that died in December.
my evo streams well sometimes, and 3g bites but it doesn't matter whether it's 'throttled' or not, it has the same top end speed.
good for the GPS and phone functions too. I use it daily for work, and gave up my $25 plan and optimus v for the GPS software, mostly. My V has limits on what it'll run with tiny ram and armv6.
If I buy one $35 plan once every six months, I can keep 3g radio accessible, and use droidvpn to hack it and get free 3g for next 5 months. I made a YouTube video about it
Will always be the best phone,
well if my G3 had 3d, never mind lol.
I have a 3d I got off a ebay for $8.00 it was dead but my blessed hands put life back into it, except it likes to touch it's self. Still think it functions as while as my G3 just with a smaller screen. If I can figure out what Chad G. did to the kernel to make it so fast, I will do it to the G3.
I use mine everyday at work streaming music.
Why am I still using EVO 3D
I ask myself that every day. Well, I didn't have to pay for it. My Mom had bought it new a few years ago, but didn't like how it would spontaneously do stuff - take pictures, call people, etc. She put it in a drawer and bought an iphone. When I lost my old phone (Samsung Rugby Smart), she gave it to me. I had to switch from AT&T to Sprint to do this, but they gave us each a tablet, so that was a big incentive (We love our Galaxy tablets and use them every day). That was about a year ago. I replaced the battery in the EVO 3D with cheapie I bought online, and that mostly solved the power problem, but the screen sensitivity thing has gotten worse.
I use it to take pictures and listen to audiobooks through Overdrive, but it is not a success as a communications device - it calls and texts people by itself and usually the screen locks up so I cannot end these calls once they are started. I can't make selections in a voicemail menu (most of the time). I would like to try rooting it but I don't think I know enough to manage it by myself. (Also I am not sure that Overdrive would still work). So I really need to either get this phone fixed or replace it soon. I need to have a dependable phone since I am looking for a job, but can't afford much on what I make now as a temp. Even if I had the money, I couldn't see spending $600+ on something that will be broken, lost, or, at best, obsolete after a year or two. So I guess I'm looking for a phone that's old and reliable versus old and unreliable.
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I ask myself that every day. Well, I didn't have to pay for it. My Mom had bought it new a few years ago, but didn't like how it would spontaneously do stuff - take pictures, call people, etc. She put it in a drawer and bought an iphone. When I lost my old phone (Samsung Rugby Smart), she gave it to me. I had to switch from AT&T to Sprint to do this, but they gave us each a tablet, so that was a big incentive (We love our Galaxy tablets and use them every day). That was about a year ago. I replaced the battery in the EVO 3D with cheapie I bought online, and that mostly solved the power problem, but the screen sensitivity thing has gotten worse.
I use it to take pictures and listen to audiobooks through Overdrive, but it is not a success as a communications device - it calls and texts people by itself and usually the screen locks up so I cannot end these calls once they are started. I can't make selections in a voicemail menu (most of the time). I would like to try rooting it but I don't think I know enough to manage it by myself. (Also I am not sure that Overdrive would still work). So I really need to either get this phone fixed or replace it soon. I need to have a dependable phone since I am looking for a job, but can't afford much on what I make now as a temp. Even if I had the money, I couldn't see spending $600+ on something that will be broken, lost, or, at best, obsolete after a year or two. So I guess I'm looking for a phone that's old and reliable versus old and unreliable.
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Digitizer seems bad, lucky there easy to replace and cheap, about $7 now. It's a very common issue with the phone. Also at less for me, using the oldest or first radios and 56xxx prl, gave me the best 3G speeds. 1 Mbs down
Because I'm broke. And yes, paying an obscene amount of money for a new phone about every 2 years is ridiculous.
Cause I have a 3d TV and no one wants to buy it lol
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Because I'm broke. And yes, paying an obscene amount of money for a new phone about every 2 years is ridiculous.
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Yep! Same here besides I don't even use it for a phone at all mostly for music, videos, & camera all on WiFi. Besides that thing is damn near indestructible. Dropped too many times to count ran it over once even dropped thing in bucket of water, hell to root tho.
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It's sad for me, but I've been very lucky to find a buyer for my more-than-3 years old evo, so I caught the opportunity! It's been fun 'till it lasted, now I got myself a G3
Why are you still using EVO 3D?
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Poverty
I still use mine as an mp3 player. I hate sense but with a good custom ROM it works well.
I'm still using mine because the Nexus 6P is not available I think that 4 years with the same smartphone have been a good run