I'm new to rooting devices. If I root my phone and don't flash a custom rom, would that still make the flash counter turn and still void my warranty? I don't want custom roms but there are some apps I need to be rooted to use.
If u will root your phone will lose warranty. ..
s4shoaib4u said:
If u will root your phone will lose warranty. ..
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can you un-root it and still have warranty or is this not possible?
williamguile said:
I'm new to rooting devices. If I root my phone and don't flash a custom rom, would that still make the flash counter turn and still void my warranty? I don't want custom roms but there are some apps I need to be rooted to use.
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Ok, first what version of Kikat are you running? If you upgraded to 4.4.4 you are out of luck for now. If you are still on 4.4.2 NC5, you can use Towel root. This will give you root access, and will NOT trip KNOX 0x0 !!! However the minute you install a custom recovery like TWRP or CWM that will trip KNOX and void your warranty. REMEMBER Sprint will warranty your device with the KNOX warranty counter tripped 0x1 as long as you unroot the device before you take it in or sent it back to Sprint !!! If the device is hard bricked, there is no way to tell it was rooted and they automatically replace the phone. With rooted access and no recovery you can Debloat the device and run rooted apps. Enjoy !!!
jimzweb1 said:
Ok, first what version of Kikat are you running? If you upgraded to 4.4.4 you are out of luck for now. If you are still on 4.4.2 NC5, you can use Towel root. This will give you root access, and will NOT trip KNOX 0x0 !!! However the minute you install a custom recovery like TWRP or CWM that will trip KNOX and void your warranty. REMEMBER Sprint will warranty your device with the KNOX warranty counter tripped 0x1 as long as you unroot the device before you take it in or sent it back to Sprint !!! If the device is hard bricked, there is no way to tell it was rooted and they automatically replace the phone. With rooted access and no recovery you can Debloat the device and run rooted apps. Enjoy !!!
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darn I guess i'm boned then. I have 4.4.2 but I used Odin to root my phone :-/
I guess if something does happen to where I need to replace it, there's always the *nuke* method or *it's lost or stolen + nuke* method as i do have Sprint's TEP plan.
williamguile said:
darn I guess i'm boned then. I have 4.4.2 but I used Odin to root my phone :-/
I guess if something does happen to where I need to replace it, there's always the *nuke* method or *it's lost or stolen + nuke* method as i do have Sprint's TEP plan.
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I run a stock rooted 4.4.2 NC5 with Philz custom recovery version 6.12.9 hltespr. The device was rooted and warranty tripped the second day I owned it. I was in a Sprint corporate Store a couple of wks ago. Showed the tech my rooted note 3. He said I can't touch that, I said what if I unrooted the phone. He said no problem, now I can warranty the phone. He didn't care that the KNOX flag was tripped at all 0x1. Just can't be rooted when you bring it in for service. Sprint doesn't care about KNOX only Samsung cares about KNOX. When Samsung paid millions to the NSA to design a security system to track and spy on others than they care !!!
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Hello,
i found a way to root without flashing anything on my galaxy s2, but i was wondering if:
rooting without flashing voids the warranty?
looking in Settings>About at kernel line there is this: "3.0.15-I9100XXLPQ-CL223505 [email protected] #3" and i remember the first time i bought the phone that is was something with [email protected], can this change cancel my warranty too?
note: i always had stock roms and custom binaries are 0 and it's samsung's official
Thanks
Rooting voids the warranty. Period.
However. If you need to return the phone for warranty service, if you unroot it, go back to a stock rom that's actually been released by Samsung, reset the flash counter & do a factory reset, the experience on here says you have a fair chance of getting warranty service. But this is not an absolute guarantee.
If you want to keep your warranty 100% guaranteed, don't mess with your phone. At all.
MistahBungle said:
Rooting voids the warranty. Period.
However. If you need to return the phone for warranty service, if you unroot it, go back to a stock rom that's actually been released by Samsung, reset the flash counter & do a factory reset, the experience on here says you have a fair chance of getting warranty service. But this is not an absolute guarantee.
If you want to keep your warranty 100% guaranteed, don't mess with your phone. At all.
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Thanks,
so if i un-root and factory reset i should be allright? and the kernel shouldn't affect that, right?
Bump!
I have rooted and installed a custom rom on my GS4 and it still says official. Is this normal?
I expected that after bricking and flashing stock and rerooting and everything I must have tripped the flash counter.
I don't really care as I don't plan on needing the warranty, I'm just surprised. I even previously had the custom unlock boot screen before bricking the phone.
Am I just looking in the wrong place?
DanGerousDroid said:
I have rooted and installed a custom rom on my GS4 and it still says official. Is this normal?
I expected that after bricking and flashing stock and rerooting and everything I must have tripped the flash counter.
I don't really care as I don't plan on needing the warranty, I'm just surprised. I even previously had the custom unlock boot screen before bricking the phone.
Am I just looking in the wrong place?
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Flash counter will only register non Samsung images which we cannot flash successfully with a locked boot loader. Unless you are unlucky enough to accidently use Odin to install cwm or push a rom, them a factory restore via Odin should for all intents be undetectable as previously rooted. There might be something on a hidden partition I am unaware of but I have heard nothing yet.
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Edited this original post here, it was 3:30am when I typed the original.. Anyway - anyone know if rooting can cause any type of instability on it's own? Without installing custom mods, roms, etc - does the act of rooting potentially cause things to not work as intended from the carrier? (my friend had an S3, rooted, and allshare stopped working - he was only rooted). I know there is some type of exploit involved in gaining root access, so that's why I ask. It's not a critique on rooting, I want to do it myself.
Disregard this second post
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Anyone? I know it says "at your own risk", but i am curious - are there inherent known issues that can crop up just from rooting alone, maybe from just the method of gaining root through the system?
sjr19 said:
Anyone? I know it says "at your own risk", but i am curious - are there inherent known issues that can crop up just from rooting alone, maybe from just the method of gaining root through the system?
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There may be a few things that don't function properly as a result from rooting. But it's 99.99999% of the time not an actual issue with the files on the phone. Nothing should be modified except for root access.
One of the ones for sure would be ota updates. I read someone else was having issues with one of the Samsung apps for streaming video to devices. These issues and others like them were caused by the system status being changed to custom and can be solved quite easily by setting the system status back to official with wanam xposed. With root and the status set to official your phone should preform exactly as stock in every way except you'll have root.
But be aware if you accept the ota while rooted you may lose root. Would have to re root or use supersu pro to maintain root during the ota.
From my Note 3
Rooting will give you many benefits. Some of these include unauthorized apk installation, developer mode, custom firmware/modem improvements and fixes for some less functional stock features. This list could go on and on...
Most carriers frown upon customers rooting their devices for a few reasons; liability, damage control and profit above all.
When your device is rooted, custum, unofficial, and/or the Samsung KNOX binary counter has been tripped, Sprint/Samsung will consider your warranty void. Basically you will need to return the device to official stock and unrooted if you need to have your phone serviced.
Sent from my Rooted, TWRP'd & JellyBombed SM-N900P using XDA...
Kompster said:
Rooting will give you many benefits. Some of these include unauthorized apk installation, developer mode, custom firmware/modem improvements and fixes for some less functional stock features. This list could go on and on...
Most carriers frown upon customers rooting their devices for a few reasons; liability, damage control and profit above all.
When your device is rooted, custum, unofficial, and/or the Samsung KNOX binary counter has been tripped, Sprint/Samsung will consider your warranty void. Basically you will need to return the device to official stock and unrooted if you need to have your phone serviced.
Sent from my Rooted, TWRP'd & JellyBombed SM-N900P using XDA...
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Fully agree.
However just to say it again because I see the question everywhere.
YOU CAN NOT RESET KNOX TO 0X0 AFTER IT HAS BEEN TRIPPED TO 0X1.
There is a root method that doesn't flip the knox flag though if that is a concern.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484095
YOU CAN NOT RESET KNOX TO 0X0 AFTER IT HAS BEEN TRIPPED TO 0X1.
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I've never had issues when just rooting a device granted I've only had the s3 and note 2 and now the note 3. But with the note 3 if you use the auto root method it will trip knox and that can't be undone and will void the warranty. The root de la vega method will give you just root access if it's what your looking for with out messing up knox.
Thanks guys. Yeah, like I said my buddy's allshare cast stopped when he rooted, so now he's reluctant to do that again. I know about not accepting OTAs. I think I am going to wait to see what other root methods may crop up, and also see if anyone finds away to reverse any accidental knox trips. Right now, i'm just enjoying the damn thing lol! Thanks all.
sjr19 said:
Thanks guys. Yeah, like I said my buddy's allshare cast stopped when he rooted, so now he's reluctant to do that again. I know about not accepting OTAs. I think I am going to wait to see what other root methods may crop up, and also see if anyone finds away to reverse any accidental knox trips. Right now, i'm just enjoying the damn thing lol! Thanks all.
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If your knox is already flipped no need to wait for a new method. Just cm auto root. Use xposed to set system status official. And optionally get supersu pro and select the keep root ota option or don't update to any ota .the files will be in the development section to flash after its released. Like this and you should be 100% functional and stock/rooted.
I'm currently rooted with the vega root .status official. And everything appears to work for me including allshare.
There is always a risk with changing anything. But in my opinion the benefits out way the risks. And all of this is easily undone by just flashing back to a stock system.
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rooting
It is hard to get rooting because they limit the resource.
kelvinzhou905 said:
It is hard to get rooting because they limit the resource.
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its not hard. all the resources you need are here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2484095
Pretty easily done with Odin and TWRP.
ALERT! This will void whatever warranty you have. Also, I am not at fault if your phone comes to life..... or dies.
Just need to download Odin (there are forums all over for finding the files.)
Download the TWRP recovery flash file:
http://dl.twrp.me/hltespr/twrp-2.8.6.1-hltespr-4.4.img.tar
Download Chainfire's SuperSU and copy to SD card:
http://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip
Power off phone entirely.
Hold Volume down + home and power the device on, then press Volume up to confirm entering Download Mode.
Open Odin.
Connect Phone to computer.
Wait for drivers to install if not already. May need to obtain Samsung USB drivers (http://androidxda.com/download-samsung-usb-drivers)
When the box shows "COM #", click the PDA button and select the TWRP image file you downloaded. (or other recovery).
Uncheck "Auto Reset"
Click Start.
Once finished, disconnect device.
PULL BATTERY
Power into Recovery first thing first by holding Volume up + Home. (failure to do so will result in the stock recovery being flashed back on boot by the phone)
Recovery will autopatch the ROM to prevent the stock recovery from being rewritten on reboot. (or should)
From inside your recovery, flash the SuperSU update zip.
Reboot and enjoy root!
(I had to try a couple of times through trial and error to get it to stick)
Thank you.
Thank worked like a charm!
Worked first time. Thanks!
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Does doing it this way trip Knox? I read the part about voiding your warranty. I know by having root it voids Samsung warranty.
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rbaucom said:
Does doing it this way trip Knox? I read the part about voiding your warranty. I know by having root it voids Samsung warranty.
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It does from what I can tell. A stock ROM flash should be able to reset Knox, it did for me, but varied results from other threads on these forums.
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It does from what I can tell. A stock ROM flash should be able to reset Knox, it did for me, but varied results from other threads on these forums.
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Wow your the first person that I have read that was able to reset a blown an efuse American sprint note 3 Knox that way.
I'm reluctant to try it.
And thinking about it it looks like that yes it would looks like it needs a a non stock recovery.
I'll wait.
Looks like we are about to have a deodexed stock rom with root about to drop. From the other thread post in here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3104033
Stock rooted ROMs
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Just to clarify. Once KNOX is tripped there is no reseting it unless the insides are swapped out. When you trip KNOX you blow an e-fuse which is non reversible. However there are ways of upgrading and keeping root without tripping knox, but thats has nothing to do with this
May is Motorcycle Awarness Month. Sent from my Galaxy Note 3
elwood said:
Just to clarify. Once KNOX is tripped there is no reseting it unless the insides are swapped out. When you trip KNOX you blow an e-fuse which is non reversible. However there are ways of upgrading and keeping root without tripping knox, but thats has nothing to do with this
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so tripping KNOX and blowing the e-fuse is bad, right? so what happens after? does the phone self destruct? and is there a way around it?
agentcelsius said:
so tripping KNOX and blowing the e-fuse is bad, right? so what happens after? does the phone self destruct? and is there a way around it?
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It's only bad if you care about warranty. Once rooted it will show 0x1 in Download Mode. A Samsung repair Tech or Sprint Repair Tech can see that and refuse to fix your phone
By replying to this post, you acknowledge that you have read and understand the OP including all links included in OP.. Sent from my Galaxy Note 3
very good
Sprint doesn't care. It's more on Samsung go site. Never had a issue with Knox tripped with sprint.
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Got root
Worked a treat on my Note 3 SM-9005 Lollipop, took 1st time no probs.
Knox is tripped but what the hell, I've been living with the stock build up until the Lollipop update.
works fine
I recently upgraded to ok2, and used this same procedure to reroot my phone successfully.
Coming from JellyBean MJ4 firmware would it be safe to flash the pre-rooted OK2 through TWRP?
Flashed fine from NAB and seemed functional enough but I wasn't happy with the Lollipop UI. Reverted to NK4.
Thanks worked from OK2 Stock.
One question... Can I use another SU application? I was trying to use an old wireless tethering application but it is asking me if I am rooted and won't start.
Titanium backup runs fine and says I have root, as does Root Checker.
If not, does anyone have a working wireless tethering application for their Note 3?
yarmock said:
Thanks worked from OK2 Stock.
One question... Can I use another SU application? I was trying to use an old wireless tethering application but it is asking me if I am rooted and won't start.
Titanium backup runs fine and says I have root, as does Root Checker.
If not, does anyone have a working wireless tethering application for their Note 3?
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I use Wi-Fi tether router. It's about $3 and works beautifully. (It does license check I believe)
They haven't updated their language to include lollipop, but as a general rule, whatever it says to do for kitkat will work on lollipop. Under "Configure Router," they have a link to the website with a list of configurations. Just follow that, and you should be good. One thing that I would add is to leave the "lte tether patch" unchecked.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.snclab.wifitetherrouter
You could try finding a newer superuser zip to flash in recovery. I do know that a couple of older ones gave that issue. I personally didn't have any luck with another supersu app, but the last time I tried a different one was on kitKat.
Hi,
I have been with AT&T for a long time. AT&T locks boot loader so there were limited options in rooting.
My understanding is that T-Mobile does not lock the boot loader. So the easiest way to root is to install TWRP using Odin and then use TWRP to flash SuperSU.apk. Is this correct? Does it trip KNOX?
Once installed, is there a way to uninstall it and revert back to full stock?
Thanks
redhonker said:
Hi,
I have been with AT&T for a long time. AT&T locks boot loader so there were limited options in rooting.
My understanding is that T-Mobile does not lock the boot loader. So the easiest way to root is to install TWRP using Odin and then use TWRP to flash SuperSU.apk. Is this correct? Does it trip KNOX?
Once installed, is there a way to uninstall it and revert back to full stock?
Thanks
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Same AT&T situation here. Yes you can root with twrp and supersu zip. It does trip Knox. If you factory reset and flash a stock Odin firmware that should revert to full stock
Hmm, tripping KNOX would need void warranty right? Is there an alternative to root? Thanks
redhonker said:
Hmm, tripping KNOX would need void warranty right? Is there an alternative to root? Thanks
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I've successfully brought in a device with a tripped Knox flag for warranty. I said Kies caused the problem (the word "lie" has such a negative connotation, but this was patently not true) and they were completely fine with that explanation, in fact they were tripping over themselves to make sure they could fix it for me. I guess that's my long-winded way of saying a tripped Knox flag doesn't prevent you from taking advantage of your warranty. Besides, I could swear I remember reading an article recently saying Samsung will now honor warranties even on devices where the Knox flag is tripped.
TLDR: A tripped Knox flag is no longer the black mark of death that it used to be