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Since owners have had the phone a for a bit longer now, I would like some feedback on those screen protector choices you have made.
Basically what I want is the common things:
*As invisible as possible.
*Smooth feeling to the touch is preferred.
*easy to apply is a plus
*I prefer to not remove the sony one already there.
So I was looking at M.glass, other ebay glass ones and then my usual choices like Zagg HD the case friendly version for the plasticky ones.
So what is working out for you guys?
I bought one off of ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/261323055474?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649. It feels nice when you put it on. I got something stuck under it though so if you are installing one make sure your phone is perfectly clean. I like the feel of it better than the normal screen. It was hard to install well for me but probably not as hard as I made it out to be. I had it perfect but removed it to get the thing from under it out and that is where things went wrong.
Thats my problem too when installing myself..always some dust gets in somehow. I am thinking on trying to install inside the bath tub or something after running the how water for like 10 minutes to see if that helps...seriously lol
shaolin95 said:
Thats my problem too when installing myself..always some dust gets in somehow. I am thinking on trying to install inside the bath tub or something after running the how water for like 10 minutes to see if that helps...seriously lol
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i have the Armorz Stealth Extreme R on mine. a bit on the pricey side but i love it. I also have one of the ebay ones for the back glass. both were put on over the stock sony screen protectors. on the back piece, i actually soaked the back of the screen with a spray bottle before applying it. It was a pain in the ass pressing out all the bubbles, but it looks flawless after a bit of elbow grease.
I have Glass-M front+back for mine and I absolutely love it. (Removed factory ASF as well). My notes
* It is really smooth. Like freshly made toffee it is so smooth it feels faintly greasy (but it is not). On an almost completely flat table the phone will slowly slide across the surface by itself due to a slope you can't see (be careful)
* I believe touch sensitivity is improved. Finicky DPI sliders in Paranoid Android setups give me no trouble now - before jumping 239,243,241 when I really want 240 dpi exactly. Pencil also works perfectly as a stylus.
* I believe screen brightness and clarity are improved. Subjective and probably due to removal of the ASF (and its invisible tiny scratches)
* Extra glass makes the phone a bit thicker but also much stiffer and I liked this. I also have a Z1 and I miss how solid that phone felt in my hand. Ultra always felt a bit too flimsy (bendy). I also had to widen the slot on my DK30 (sandpaper glued to a flat stick aka big emory board)
* Getting alignment correct is tricky - glass-M slightly smaller than the phone screen edges. Mine went on crooked but I can live with that.
* No dust or bubbles in mine. Used the shower trick of old school film photographers. Long hot steamy shower will effectively clean the room of even tiny dust particles.
* Removing the ASF is a truly harrowing experience (see the other thread). Halfway through you *will* have an "Oh God what have I done" moment. Still totally worth it.
Hope my ramble helps someone. In summary really happy with the Glass-M. :good:
shaolin95 said:
Thats my problem too when installing myself..always some dust gets in somehow. I am thinking on trying to install inside the bath tub or something after running the how water for like 10 minutes to see if that helps...seriously lol
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Haha yeah I took it off and it made it way worse... ended up being a waste of money which has been happening a lot since my phone had been sent back for repair. I have wasted so much money. But yeah I bought another one and got it a couple of days ago but have not opened it. I will install it right when my phone gets back.
So when you guys go dual glass (front and back I mean) do you just carry it without a case? I mean, when I remove mine from the case it just feels SOOOO good to hold, like the case makes it feel not as ergonomic even though you will think is just one flat object
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So when you guys go dual glass (front and back I mean) do you just carry it without a case?
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Glass-M Front+Back and I carry mine "au naturel". Four weeks of sliding in and out of pocket + keys, coins, cig. lighter etc with no marring or scratches. Seriously it feels way better in my hand than the factory finish: smoother, bit thicker (2x 0.25mm glass + adhesives is a lot on a 6.5mm phone), and far more solid. Absolutely love its handling after placing the extra glass.
Downsides are metal sides will eventually pick up scratches and dents and also I don't like the proximity sensor cutout: messes with the Sony design and makes it look like everybody else's iPhone/Samsung/whatever with slots cut into the front of the phone. I don't believe the cutout is necessary for that sensor to work. (could be wrong about that)
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Glass-M Front+Back and I carry mine "au naturel". Four weeks of sliding in and out of pocket + keys, coins, cig. lighter etc with no marring or scratches. Seriously it feels way better in my hand than the factory finish: smoother, thicker (2x 0.25mm glass + adhesives is a lot on a 6.5mm phone), stiffer and more solid. Absolutely love its handling after placing the extra glass.
Downsides are metal sides will eventually pick up scratches and dents and also I don't like the proximity sensor cutout: messes with the Sony design and makes it look like everybody else's iPhone/Samsung/whatever with slots cut into the front of the phone. I don't believe the cutout is necessary for that sensor to work. (could be wrong about that)
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yup. I carry it without a case now. feels super classy. picked up some weight from the dual glass but I'm not worried about scratching the screen compared to using the phone fresh out of the box.
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Ah you guys are going to make me join the nudist colony!
Well I got too many cases already on the way but they will live in the car to be used when required, but for the most part I love the feel of it naked....and we are still talking about phones just before someone locks the thread
Does the glass go all the way to the edges of the phone? Like if I use one of those cases that go just above the screen (if those will even fit which I doubt) will it make the glass come off?
I guess I should just not use a case but gosh I bought a couple of nice ones already LOL
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Does the glass go all the way to the edges of the phone? Like if I use one of those cases that go just above the screen (if those will even fit which I doubt) will it make the glass come off?
I guess I should just not use a case but gosh I bought a couple of nice ones already LOL
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incipio feather worked with front glass. it worked with back glass too but feels super snug.
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Thats a very nice looking case...I just wish they would have left the charging port open..kind of strange they did not make a cut for that :/
Well, I guess I use it without a case at home and at work right now anyway since with my case it wont fit on the DK30 but still, if I were to use a single cable, that case wouldnt let me charge.
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Thats a very nice looking case...I just wish they would have left the charging port open..kind of strange they did not make a cut for that :/
Well, I guess I use it without a case at home and at work right now anyway since with my case it wont fit on the DK30 but still, if I were to use a single cable, that case wouldnt let me charge.
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I modified the case to leave opening for magnetic charging port. some use a dremel. I used a razor blade. came out looking how it was supposed to be, but since I got the back glass, I don't use it anymore. lol
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yeah maybe I bought cases for decoration now LOL We shall see.
I just thought of one possible issue if I get the Glass-M vs getting a single one for the screen only....I want to get one of those extended batteries case combinations.
So if I get that, I am pretty sure it wont fit with the Glass-M but maybe it will fit if I only get one glass for the front?
I'm getting my glass-m protectors today. I'll post my opinion tomorrow some time
Cool!
I got one of the front glass only protectors from ebay. Still waiting for it to arrive to see if I can deal with it.
I should have gotten the Glass M but I dont feel like modding the DK30 which I will probably have to do anyway
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Cool!
I got one of the front glass only protectors from ebay. Still waiting for it to arrive to see if I can deal with it.
I should have gotten the Glass M but I dont feel like modding the DK30 which I will probably have to do anyway
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Got my Glass-M protector yesterday put it on this morning. It works great. Its' pretty comparable to the spigen tr I had on my S4 maybe a littler thinner. It includes the front and back glass protectors, rear camera cutout was perfect. The front appears to cover the camera. There is a cutout for something to the left of the camera but I'm not really sure why. Maybe I am misunderstanding the layout? Luckily it laid down well enough that its not causing any distortiong.
It actually feels nicer and seems more fingerprint resistant than the stock bare screen with its ASF film. It's an expensive kit but considering both front and rear protectors are glass it seems like its worth the money to me.
Shipping was also really fast considering it came from hong kong....about 5 days.
So I ended up trying this glass one:
Protector
The feeling and quality of the image is so pristine compared to my previous regular plastic like protector!
I did have to sand paper the DK30 a bit to make it fit but all is good. I still can use all my cases if needed and I left the plastic protector for the back part.
So overall, I think I will keep this one because with the dual Glass M ones, I dont think my cases will work nor the Charging case combo I want.
With the size of this phone and the Explosion proof glass...I feel like Captain America now
iLLumiShield - PET Film - Front & Back - $13.95
"...perfect fit. Almost too close so you have to be pretty precise putting it on. Front and back. I've also been using a pen with it and no scratches except when my pen had a metal burr on it."
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eBay "Explosion Proof" - 0.4mm Tempered Glass - Front - $10.95
"It feels nice when you put it on...I like the feel of it better than the normal screen. It was hard to install well for me but probably not as hard as I made it out to be. I had it perfect but removed it to get the thing from under it out and that is where things went wrong."
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Armorz Stealth Extreme R - 0.4mm Tempered Glass - Front - $49.95
"...a bit on the pricey side but i love it."
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Glass-M Premium - ???mm Tempered Glass - Front & Back (single pieces available) - $31.50
"I have Glass-M front+back for mine and I absolutely love it. (Removed factory ASF as well). My notes
* It is really smooth. Like freshly made toffee it is so smooth it feels faintly greasy (but it is not). On an almost completely flat table the phone will slowly slide across the surface by itself due to a slope you can't see (be careful)
* I believe touch sensitivity is improved. Finicky DPI sliders in Paranoid Android setups give me no trouble now - before jumping 239,243,241 when I really want 240 dpi exactly. Pencil also works perfectly as a stylus.
* I believe screen brightness and clarity are improved. Subjective and probably due to removal of the ASF (and its invisible tiny scratches)
* Extra glass makes the phone a bit thicker but also much stiffer and I liked this. I also have a Z1 and I miss how solid that phone felt in my hand. Ultra always felt a bit too flimsy (bendy). I also had to widen the slot on my DK30 (sandpaper glued to a flat stick aka big emory board)
* Getting alignment correct is tricky - glass-M slightly smaller than the phone screen edges. Mine went on crooked but I can live with that.
* No dust or bubbles in mine. Used the shower trick of old school film photographers. Long hot steamy shower will effectively clean the room of even tiny dust particles.
* Removing the ASF is a truly harrowing experience (see the other thread). Halfway through you *will* have an "Oh God what have I done" moment. Still totally worth it.
Hope my ramble helps someone. In summary really happy with the Glass-M."
Hey guys,
I'm getting to the point where I'm looking for a high quality, preferably tempered glass, screen protector. My ASF is getting more and more ****ed up day by day (I'm starting to see how bad it really is). I've done some research and found the screen protectors that appear early on in google's search results and through various XDA threads, but I'm curious what other people are using/have used.
I've decided to put this thread together so there can be a repository for screen protector information. This way people who want to protect their ZU from day 1 or those who are going to remove the ASF and cover the phone with something else can have a centralized place to get the information they need.
If you don't mind, please reply to this thread with information regarding the screen protector you are currently using or have used, what kind it is (PET, tempered glass, other), price, the link to purchase it, pictures (if possible), and what you thought of it/if you recommend it.
I'll update the thread (post 2) with the information as it comes in. Hopefully this can help everyone.
I am so tempted to get these front and back
http://www.amazon.co.uk/FX-Antirefl...ords=Sony+z+ultra+front+back+screen+protector
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I am so tempted to get these front and back
http://www.amazon.co.uk/FX-Antirefl...ords=Sony+z+ultra+front+back+screen+protector
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Try it, let me know how it is.
Poi25 said:
Try it, let me know how it is.
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Will do I have ordered it will give some feedback on it.
Anyone know a good dry screen protector? The one that came with the spigen hybrid case I got for my n5 is great. Wish I could get the same for my soon to be xzu.
jacktrck said:
Anyone know a good dry screen protector? The one that came with the spigen hybrid case I got for my n5 is great. Wish I could get the same for my soon to be xzu.
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As you can see, I'm trying to build this thread. There's not really much info yet.
I've got a Skinomi protector for XZU, haven't applied it yet ... not sure what the advantages or downsides are of removing the ASF ATM. I'll prolly apply it tomorrow though.
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I've got a Skinomi protector for XZU, haven't applied it yet ... not sure what the advantages or downsides are of removing the ASF ATM. I'll prolly apply it tomorrow though.
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I'd personally remove the ASF, I don't like it. But then again, I haven't removed mine yet cuz it's a PITA. Let me know what you think of the protector, post some pics, etc.
Poi25 said:
I'd personally remove the ASF, I don't like it. But then again, I haven't removed mine yet cuz it's a PITA. Let me know what you think of the protector, post some pics, etc.
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How can you tell if you would prefer to not have the ASF if you haven't removed it? Given the seemingly widespread issue of XZU breaking I'd be pretty leery of removing the ASF unless a very sturdy case was going on. I was tempted to try out a product from Armorz which I think was called Tech R(?) - it's 2 tempered glass pieces for back and front - but Iwasn't sure how much support this would give against twisting.
I'm intending to put on the Skinomi Techskin tonight before I go to bed as it's recommended to leave it for 5 hours or so to dry.
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How can you tell if you would prefer to not have the ASF if you haven't removed it? Given the seemingly widespread issue of XZU breaking I'd be pretty leery of removing the ASF unless a very sturdy case was going on. I was tempted to try out a product from Armorz which I think was called Tech R(?) - it's 2 tempered glass pieces for back and front - but Iwasn't sure how much support this would give against twisting.
I'm intending to put on the Skinomi Techskin tonight before I go to bed as it's recommended to leave it for 5 hours or so to dry.
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I know I'd prefer the ASF removed because of how it looks. It's beat up and scratched, and I've babied this thing. Plus, it's plastic. Glass > Plastic. It's not going to be any less sturdy without the ASF. It's not like a tiny 0.4 mm piece of plastic is going to provide any sturdiness. All it does is contain the glass fragments from flying anywhere if the screen were to break.Underneath the ASF is normal smartphone glass (don't know if it's Gorilla Glass or another brand).
Putting a tempered glass protector on it would definitely make it more sturdy. That's the point, it's tempered.
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I've got a Skinomi protector for XZU, haven't applied it yet ... not sure what the advantages or downsides are of removing the ASF ATM. I'll prolly apply it tomorrow though.
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Skinomi is garbage
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Skinomi is garbage
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Are you using a SGP protector on your ZU? You have a million links in your sig, so I was just wondering.
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Are you using a SGP protector on your ZU? You have a million links in your sig, so I was just wondering.
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Gearmaxx only.
jutley said:
I am so tempted to get these front and back
http://www.amazon.co.uk/FX-Antirefl...ords=Sony+z+ultra+front+back+screen+protector
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Atfolix is pretty decent quality. Just switched today.from.anti reflex to crystal clear. Anti reflex is nice when being outside in the sun, but it really weakens the quality of the screen,it looks quite blurry. And what is most annoying... Using pens and stuff on the anti reflex protector will basically lead to drawing on the screen protector.
Crystal clear is perfect.wouldn't notice it's there at all.
I've used atfolix on all of my phones and never had any problems. Very easy to apply, very scratch resistant.
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So I put the Skinomi Techskin on. I have since removed it.
Impressions were thus: Applying the protector is simply a matter of misting the adhesive side of the film (liquid is supplied, I believe it's just water and surfactant), applying it to the device and waiting.
As far as optics goes I could not tell the difference between viewing the screen with it off or on the device after it had "cured" (Skinomi's word). Touching it felt like touching a layer of soft rubber that had a tiny bit of grip. I found it didn't impede me in any way but I prefer the feel of other screen protectors and of course no screen protector.
I had to remove it in any case as I got a speck of something underneath it that I couldn't remove but I think I would've removed it in any case due to the feel of it.
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So I put the Skinomi Techskin on. I have since removed it.
Impressions were thus: Applying the protector is simply a matter of misting the adhesive side of the film (liquid is supplied, I believe it's just water and surfactant), applying it to the device and waiting.
As far as optics goes I could not tell the difference between viewing the screen with it off or on the device after it had "cured" (Skinomi's word). Touching it felt like touching a layer of soft rubber that had a tiny bit of grip. I found it didn't impede me in any way but I prefer the feel of other screen protectors and of course no screen protector.
I had to remove it in any case as I got a speck of something underneath it that I couldn't remove but I think I would've removed it in any case due to the feel of it.
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Could you answer the few questions from the OP and post some pics? That way I can add this as the first one.
I've been using illumishield.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EOC6CM0?pc_redir=1400194879&robot_redir=1
It's PET and perfect fit. Almost too close so you have to be pretty precise putting it on. Front and back. I've also been using a pen with it and no scratches except when my pen had a metal burr on it.
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In about a month I'll come back and leave some details on the protector I just ordered off E-bay. Set me back $24, and goes by the name "Glass-M Curvy Border Tempered Glass Screen Protector".
I'm weary of E-bay and all it's anonymous vendors - but MIME/Ghost was out of stock and Bodyguardz doesn't have a glass protector for our device so E-bay it was!
Chima2 said:
In about a month I'll come back and leave some details on the protector I just ordered off E-bay. Set me back $24, and goes by the name "Glass-M Curvy Border Tempered Glass Screen Protector".
I'm weary of E-bay and all it's anonymous vendors - but MIME/Ghost was out of stock and Bodyguardz doesn't have a glass protector for our device so E-bay it was!
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Great choice - I think you'll be pleased with it!
There are some experiences with it and other protectors posted in these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2571471
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2609371
Here's what I posted back in March:
I applied Glass-M screen protectors on both the front and back of my phone yesterday, and have been very happy with it so far. It's added a little weight, but it feels sturdier and more premium than before, and looks better than the plastic screen protector I had previously. The touch is also a lot smoother than the plastic one, which was a bit rubbery. I installed mine on top of the ASF, both front and back, since I didn't want the "harrowing" experience of removing it. I feel like it's protected well enough to do without a case, though I may get a slim one to cover the edges of the phone as well. Highly recommended. :good:
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I haven't changed my mind, and also got a Muvit Bimat case, which has been a perfect combination. It still looks new.
So i have read rants on the Z1 having self breaking glass, and alittle on the ultra. Most of the threads on the ultra though have been, slight to moderate abuse (sat on)(backpack of stuff) causing breaks. Not the classic Z1 of "took phone out of front pocket". My normal routine is only having the phone in my front pocket when going from my desk to the car. Other than that its on my desk or left in my car (i hate walking around with a phone in my pants).
Mines coming this week and i kinda want to take some preventive steps, and wondering if sony really is replacing "not blown to bits" screens under warranty in at least the USA.
I hear it comes with a factory "screen protector" that you should leave on, and put another screen protector on top of it. Is that true or is the factory protector just the stock "tabbed" film that should be removed right after opening the box? I have a front/back screen protector coming, but wanted to know if i should peel off the factory one first.
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So i have read rants on the Z1 having self breaking glass, and alittle on the ultra. Most of the threads on the ultra though have been, slight to moderate abuse (sat on)(backpack of stuff) causing breaks. Not the classic Z1 of "took phone out of front pocket". My normal routine is only having the phone in my front pocket when going from my desk to the car. Other than that its on my desk or left in my car (i hate walking around with a phone in my pants).
Mines coming this week and i kinda want to take some preventive steps, and wondering if sony really is replacing "not blown to bits" screens under warranty in at least the USA.
I hear it comes with a factory "screen protector" that you should leave on, and put another screen protector on top of it. Is that true or is the factory protector just the stock "tabbed" film that should be removed right after opening the box? I have a front/back screen protector coming, but wanted to know if i should peel off the factory one first.
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one year in, and no glass breaking
your routine won't break the phone, i'm sure
screen protector, i have one on top of the anti shatter film provided with the phone, both front and back, and both scratched to hell, but too lazy to replace
Definitely put a aftermarket screen protector over the anti shatter film. The ASF is too soft, but is a pain in the arse to remove by all accounts
I've had my ZU for about 9 months now and have dropped it 3 times onto concrete, once without any screen proctor or case, the other two times has been with a wallet/flip case. The last time I dropped it the case even broke - still the screen is intact.
I too thought it wont happen to mine, till it really did, of course it's not self breaking glass for no reason, but more likely the most logical reason I could think of is, the stress accumulated from the daily use, a bit of pressure while in pocket, or backpack, along with the heat / cold temperature, whatever other bull crap from regular use, over a period of time, that stress cause the glass to be broken.
I pretty much babied my Z Ultra, have back casing, Glass M on the front, Skinomi on the back, never dropped, all in like new condition. Then last Sunday I was on my bike ride, put it inside my backpack, along with my wallet, then couple hours later, took it out from my backpack only to find the glass, under the M Glass screen protector, under the original ASF, has a hairline crack, and pretty much as good as brick, since it wont register any touch, I can see a call coming in, but cant answer it since the display doesnt work.
OP said it happens with Z1, I read that it happens with Z2, and it happens with my Z Ultra, so I think it's just something on their glass quality along with their full glass design, it is impacting a small number of them, not all, just small number, but still the problem indeed does exists.
But I still buy another Z Ultra in a heart beat without much thinking, as a matter of fact already got another one from expensys, with the price is so cheap now, the smoothness, the crisp display, the waterproofness, it still worth every penny.
Mine broke in the pocket, and so did others.
It can break. But with that said, the risk yours will break in the pocket with no abuse is small.
Sony aren't very consistent in handling these cases. Sometimes they get it fixed on warranty, sometimes they're not. But if you get a first negative answer just send in a complaint and they might turn around (as in my case).
I just got mine back. I had the asf removed on the previous one, I'm not taking it off now. And I'm doubling up with tempered glass protectors.
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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There is so much wrong with this post.
boystuff said:
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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i live right on the equator, and have not had any problems with this (i also use a screen protector on top of the antishatter film). do you mean to say by removing the anti-shatter film, the glass doesn't pick up any fingerprints and oil? a screen can only be oleophobic for so long.
To those who have had the screen crack in their pockets: were you using a hard case to provide rigidity to the device?
I also just received a Z Ultra and read through the massive threads on Sony's forums on these problems. It just seems the device is so thin it has too much flex in the pocket. I'm even hesitant to use the leather flipstyle case if it doesn'tt provide enough rigidity.
I'm thinking maybe the aluminum bumper case with GlassM protectors on both sides would work nicely together. Hopefully the aluminum won't degrade the signal quality too harshly.
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To those who have had the screen crack in their pockets: were you using a hard case to provide rigidity to the device?
I also just received a Z Ultra and read through the massive threads on Sony's forums on these problems. It just seems the device is so thin it has too much flex in the pocket. I'm even hesitant to use the leather flipstyle case if it doesn'tt provide enough rigidity.
I'm thinking maybe the aluminum bumper case with GlassM protectors on both sides would work nicely together. Hopefully the aluminum won't degrade the signal quality too harshly.
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Those hair thin aluminum bumper cases wont do squat, the thick glassM m shields wont do squat. The device is just too long and think. Your best bet is to treat it like a full size tablet. Dont sit with it in your pocket, dont put it in your bag without being in a separate compartment. The poor thing is like 1/4" thick and made out of aluminum and glass. I still dont know why they choose this glass. I can take my droid incredible with gorilla glass and pound the screen on the corner of a desk over and over, no scratches. This sony phone just doesnt have any flex for the glass.
I just through an iLLumiShield on the front and back so i can throw it on the table and not worry about scratches.
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Those hair thin aluminum bumper cases wont do squat, the thick glassM m shields wont do squat. The device is just too long and think. Your best bet is to treat it like a full size tablet. Dont sit with it in your pocket, dont put it in your bag without being in a separate compartment. The poor thing is like 1/4" thick and made out of aluminum and glass. I still dont know why they choose this glass. I can take my droid incredible with gorilla glass and pound the screen on the corner of a desk over and over, no scratches. This sony phone just doesnt have any flex for the glass.
I just through an iLLumiShield on the front and back so i can throw it on the table and not worry about scratches.
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But if flex is the issue then wouldn't a solid metal frame that doesn't bend around the perimeter of the phone rectify such concern?
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But if flex is the issue then wouldn't a solid metal frame that doesn't bend around the perimeter of the phone rectify such concern?
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Yes but the aluminum bumper case is very flimsy stamped aluminum. You would need something with zero give like aircraft grade. An aluminum or plastic shell would be the way to go, but That bumper case is just to prevent chiping of the sides, and give a mm lip when laying the phone on its front/back.
I just use a rubber back cover and THAT'S IT. No problems for me. And yes i keep it in my jeans' pocket most of the time. It does hinder my movement a little though
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The better way to deal with the size is not to put in jeans pocket. In winter, jacket pockets I guess are ok. In summer, I guess the best way would be to buy a camera bag or something for this. I think that would solve this problem.
I just got the phone and I am kinda surprised to see how thin it is. Definitely not a phone you should stress too much.
I am planning to buy a GadgetShieldz complete body protection. The question is does Z U need it? And if I put a screen protector will the pencil write properly on the screen?
Thanks!
Old topic here on the forum. Yes you probably should think about buying a screenprotector if you going to use a pen. Its an ordinary plastic sheet on the screen molded on and it will get scratched VERY easy. Also the oleofobic coating will wear off with time. In about three months you are going to notice the sheet getting more of a rough texture where you push and swipe your fingers often.
I would say that the stock screen protector has very a low quality in terms of its lifetime and ability to resist scratches.
Examples of quality screen protector:
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/mocolo-for-sony-xperia
and
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/glass-m-sony-xperia
About the GadgetShieldz. I have never heard of this company before. But its the same bull**** crap salesman promises that its "precision manufactured" and "scratch proof" that you see all around Ebay and small websites out there on the interweb.
Its a plastic sheet okay. Enough of the bragging about the so said quality. Plastic is plastic. Or vinyl or whatever it is.
If you want a screen protector. Try out a solid sheet of glass. Like the ones I linked above or if you find something promising out there.
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot. No a screen protector will for the most not disturb the ability to discover pen input. And If you do notice that input skips now and then you can always modify the sensitivity of the touch panel by editing a text file
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Old topic here on the forum. Yes you probably should think about buying a screenprotector if you going to use a pen. Its an ordinary plastic sheet on the screen molded on and it will get scratched VERY easy. Also the oleofobic coating will wear off with time. In about three months you are going to notice the sheet getting more of a rough texture where you push and swipe your fingers often.
I would say that the stock screen protector has very a low quality in terms of its lifetime and ability to resist scratches.
Examples of quality screen protector:
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/mocolo-for-sony-xperia
and
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/glass-m-sony-xperia
About the GadgetShieldz. I have never heard of this company before. But its the same bull**** crap salesman promises that its "precision manufactured" and "scratch proof" that you see all around Ebay and small websites out there on the interweb.
Its a plastic sheet okay. Enough of the bragging about the so said quality. Plastic is plastic. Or vinyl or whatever it is.
If you want a screen protector. Try out a solid sheet of glass. Like the ones I linked above or if you find something promising out there.
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot. No a screen protector will for the most not disturb the ability to discover pen input. And If you do notice that input skips now and then you can always modify the sensitivity of the touch panel by editing a text file
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Thanks a ton friend. Firstly, I have been using GadgetShieldz for about 5 years now. On different phones, it has performed beyond my expectations. However, my question was simply this, that will I need a screen protector, to which I've got my reply, Yes.
And secondly, will using a protector hinder in use of a pen. To which you said, No. But would like if someone using GadgetShieldz replies with their feedback.
But thanks a lot..
I have no experience with the gadgetsheildz so can not comment but i have the Mocolo glass protector (from Superusers link above) on both the front and back of my ZU. My ZU already had a few tiny scratches on the original ASF which have now all but vanished with the mocolo glass in place.
However after testing with both pen and pencil and a coin to test the screenwrite input ability (All worked well and recognition was pretty smooth) the mocolo appears to have picked up a few micro scratches around the area i tested. I Cant be sure what caused it to scratch but i decided to not to use anything other than my finger for input and the write/text input isnt a feature i use much.
Other things i noticed are that although the ZU is huge and can be rather awkward to hold on occasion, i found with the front and back glass applied it has become "more" awkward as it now feels so slippy when holding and it definately moves around the table top a bit too freely for my liking...
Also consider the weight. With both sheets of glass in place there is a definite increase in the overall weight of the device. Many will say the increase is negligible but i find coupled with slippy hand feel, the slightly heavier package just adds to the overall awkwardness of the device.
However there is peace of mind knowing the original glass underneath is well protected :fingers-crossed:
I'm sure these issues could be rectified with the use of a gel case on back which i am considering as my ZU looks amazing and the above glass protector fits like a glove but the phone feels more fragile/vulnerable than before.
My backside has cracked. And I like it. Because it shows that my mocolo did the job it was designed to. :good: I might buy a new set later on. It has not affect my user experience because there are no sharp ends or pieces of glass that can hurt me.
What I like about it is that it makes the z ultra rigid and more durable. Without the sheets I can easily bend my device so I just find it positive to have the sheets. And I just love the extra weight and feeling of glass
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My backside has cracked. And I like it. Because it shows that my mocolo did the job it was designed to. :good: I might buy a new set later on. It has not affect my user experience because there are no sharp ends or pieces of glass that can hurt me.
What I like about it is that it makes the z ultra rigid and more durable. Without the sheets I can easily bend my device so I just find it positive to have the sheets. And I just love the extra weight and feeling of glass
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When you say the back has cracked do you mean the glass underneath the protector has cracked, or has the mocolo glass cracked?
The worry is the front underside glass cracking which from all accounts renders the device non functional to any touch.
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When you say the back has cracked do you mean the glass underneath the protector has cracked, or has the mocolo glass cracked?
The worry is the front underside glass cracking which from all accounts renders the device non functional to any touch.
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The backside mocolo glass has cracked :good:
a question about screen
Hello everyone,
This is my first post here. I have ordered Z Ultra which will be delivered most probably tomorrow. After ordering i read so many complaints about the screen self breaking problem in Xperia Z series and Sony is not covering it in warranty. I am confuse whether to keep the phone or should i return it. Or is there any way to save or protect the screen. Will applying tempered glass protector solve the problem. People has complained screen cracks even after few days of purchase. I am worried about it, dont want to waste my hard earned money
Please suggest guys about the protector.
Thanks in advance.
Sandeep Bharaj
sandeep_bharaj said:
Hello everyone,
This is my first post here. I have ordered Z Ultra which will be delivered most probably tomorrow. After ordering i read so many complaints about the screen self breaking problem in Xperia Z series and Sony is not covering it in warranty. I am confuse whether to keep the phone or should i return it. Or is there any way to save or protect the screen. Will applying tempered glass protector solve the problem. People has complained screen cracks even after few days of purchase. I am worried about it, dont want to waste my hard earned money
Please suggest guys about the protector.
Thanks in advance.
Sandeep Bharaj
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If you keep it out of your trousers pockets and not placing it where it can be bent (Yes the Z ultra can be bent very easy) .i.e. for example between your doorkeys and heavy books in your bag or tight pockets in your skinny jeans. Or subjecting your device to fast temperature changes for example from direct sunlight indoors to minus degrees winter outdoors and vice versa. Keep it in your pocket to ease the temperature change etc.
Think about the phone like its a glass oven baking dish because it has two safety glass sheets and addition to that it has air trapped inside it because the Z ultra is waterproof or at some level at least (1meter/30min?)
If you are careful where you put it then you don't have to worry that the screen might self crack. I hope I did not scare you now.. :silly:
I have not had an issue with my screen yet at least so you can relax
I put an illumishield screen protector over the stock screen, because of what I read about scratches. So screen protectors are from and back.
Getting the DSC-QX10 lens, so I got the adapter SPA-ACX3 for XZ. Lens locks onto the back of mobile ? Phone .
Plus, I wrap my XZ in a microfiber cloth , and carry in my messenger bag, with NFC Bluetooth headphones .
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If you keep it out of your trousers pockets and not placing it where it can be bent (Yes the Z ultra can be bent very easy) .i.e. for example between your doorkeys and heavy books in your bag or tight pockets in your skinny jeans. Or subjecting your device to fast temperature changes for example from direct sunlight indoors to minus degrees winter outdoors and vice versa. Keep it in your pocket to ease the temperature change etc.
Think about the phone like its a glass oven baking dish because it has two safety glass sheets and addition to that it has air trapped inside it because the Z ultra is waterproof or at some level at least (1meter/30min?)
If you are careful where you put it then you don't have to worry that the screen might self crack. I hope I did not scare you now.. :silly:
I have not had an issue with my screen yet at least so you can relax
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Thanks alot for the reply
I am using it since 4 days with all possible precautions. I havnt put it in my jeans pocket yet. Carrying it in shirt's pocket all the time
Secondly i get in insured :thumbup:
If in case its screen breaks, i ll get something from inssurance company.. actualy phone is really good at d price i got so didnt returned..
Thanks for d suggestions, i ll take care about the temprature change.. will avoid sudden temperatures..
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I wish I didn't listen to the people that told me I didn't need on for the i9100. I had to live with that scratch for nearly 15 months.
Got one from day one with this, and will do for all future phones until I can trust there won't be a single scratch over the life of the phone.
screen protector..
X0LARIUM said:
I am planning to buy a GadgetShieldz complete body protection. The question is does Z U need it? And if I put a screen protector will the pencil write properly on the screen?
Thanks!
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yes.. you need that... i would prevent you screen from scratches.. z ultra is not protected by corning gorilla glass or something.. its just a shatter proof glass.. so its better to buy a screen protector
jsonexe said:
yes.. you need that... i would prevent you screen from scratches.. z ultra is not protected by corning gorilla glass or something.. its just a shatter proof glass.. so its better to buy a screen protector
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Got onE!!
Hi, I am getting the S23 ultra soon and was wondering, am I best leaving Samsung's film screen protector on, or will this not really offer much protection?
Am I best taking this off and putting my own?
I was looking at these UV glass ones, which I don't really have experience with, they are all a little on the dear side in comparison to the glass ones that are ready to stick.
I tend to prefer glass as it feels like more protection and touch / fingerprint still works fine and also tends not to suffer air bubbles as much.
Regards
James
You dont get a screen protector on it when it arrives
After years of using the UV product you mentioned (whitestone dome) I settled on the practical plastic films. These are very cheap, you can get 2 or 3 at just $10, they avoid scratching mainly and the feel is not as good BUT cleaning up the screen after removing the protective UV glass is a nightmare, replacements cost $40 to $60 in case it breaks or dents. The plastic film doesn't really dent and it's much thinner and as far as my experience goes most cases are compatible with the plastic one, in contrast with the UV glass. Furthermore, the installation of the glass is not "for everyone", I am used to do precision work with my hands and the installation process is not something I would recommend to an inexperienced person: some glue is going to get outside while curing the screen with the UV lamp and it can infiltrate in your mic holes or in the small gap between the display and the frame. Last but not least, if you want to use the phone without a case with the glass you get a noticeable step on all 4 sides which is very uncomfortable especially if you use gestures. If you want to give it a try, is something you can live with and it has for sure benefits as far as feeling and protection. On the other hand, all the above issues remain. Sorry for the bad grammar and punctuation, I'm in a hurry. I hope my comment helps you decide for the best!
s3fan said:
You dont get a screen protector on it when it arrives
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That's a bummer, they have as far as I know, at least on the flagships since the S10
Sprov said:
After years of using the UV product you mentioned (whitestone dome) I settled on the practical plastic films. These are very cheap, you can get 2 or 3 at just $10, they avoid scratching mainly and the feel is not as good BUT cleaning up the screen after removing the protective UV glass is a nightmare, replacements cost $40 to $60 in case it breaks or dents. The plastic film doesn't really dent and it's much thinner and as far as my experience goes most cases are compatible with the plastic one, in contrast with the UV glass. Furthermore, the installation of the glass is not "for everyone", I am used to do precision work with my hands and the installation process is not something I would recommend to an inexperienced person: some glue is going to get outside while curing the screen with the UV lamp and it can infiltrate in your mic holes or in the small gap between the display and the frame. Last but not least, if you want to use the phone without a case with the glass you get a noticeable step on all 4 sides which is very uncomfortable especially if you use gestures. If you want to give it a try, is something you can live with and it has for sure benefits as far as feeling and protection. On the other hand, all the above issues remain. Sorry for the bad grammar and punctuation, I'm in a hurry. I hope my comment helps you decide for the best!
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I swear by these whitestone dome protectors. The newest versions (I have one on my S23U) come with stickers to seal the buttons and edges when you install so you don't get any glue in the buttons.
If one watches the video, the installation process is relatively fool proof. I've not yet had a bad installation and the glass has saved my phone more than once.
Fingerprint sensor sensitivity is reduced somewhat but still functions perfectly.
IMHO, these are far and away the best protectors and I'd not use any other.
Getting on my high horse here to ***** about the hypocrisy around "saving the planet" by not providing a screen protector....it's all virtues signaling and real cheap ass practice.
Look what resulted from buying a screen protector from Scamazon (add gas burned, electricity, etc ) to see the "savings"
dl12345 said:
I swear by these whitestone dome protectors. The newest versions (I have one on my S23U) come with stickers to seal the buttons and edges when you install so you don't get any glue in the buttons.
If one watches the video, the installation process is relatively fool proof. I've not yet had a bad installation and the glass has saved my phone more than once.
Fingerprint sensor sensitivity is reduced somewhat but still functions perfectly.
IMHO, these are far and away the best protectors and I'd not use any other.
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I completely agree that as far as protection Whitestone Dome is the best you can get - but that was not in question.
I also agree that the procedure is pretty straightforward but you would be amazed knowing how MOST people can screw up easy things. Not everyone has decent manuality: people actually pay to get cheap screen protectors installed by some "specialized tecnician". I am someone who fixes its stuff to the point of soldering components, just for curiosity and because I enjoy it, but most people don't want to deal even with screen protectors
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That's a bummer, they have as far as I know, at least on the flagships since the S10
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yeah it looks like they stopped including them with S22 Ultra. My S21U came with a screen protector and the S22U didn't. I'm from EU if it matters.
Sprov said:
I completely agree that as far as protection Whitestone Dome is the best you can get - but that was not in question.
I also agree that the procedure is pretty straightforward but you would be amazed knowing how MOST people can screw up easy things. Not everyone has decent manuality: people actually pay to get cheap screen protectors installed by some "specialized tecnician". I am someone who fixes its stuff to the point of soldering components, just for curiosity and because I enjoy it, but most people don't want to deal even with screen protectors
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I'm also thinking if I want to have the TMax UV Dome installed on my S23 Plus but I'm reading mixed reactions with using UV Dome. I won't install it myself so that's out of the question. But that screen protector also covers the front camera which sucks and I don't know how good/bad it is. I know it's from China but so is Whitedome.
Some experienced users told me to use a TPU film instead, like the ArmorSuit wet install film. The display of the S23 is very good and it just needs a simple TPU screen protector to protect it from unavoidable scratches. Is the difference in feeling between a TPU and tempered glass protector that significant? What else made you suggest using TPU instead of glass?
kevindd992002 said:
I'm also thinking if I want to have the TMax UV Dome installed on my S23 Plus but I'm reading mixed reactions with using UV Dome. I won't install it myself so that's out of the question. But that screen protector also covers the front camera which sucks and I don't know how good/bad it is. I know it's from China but so is Whitedome.
Some experienced users told me to use a TPU film instead, like the ArmorSuit wet install film. The display of the S23 is very good and it just needs a simple TPU screen protector to protect it from unavoidable scratches. Is the difference in feeling between a TPU and tempered glass protector that significant? What else made you suggest using TPU instead of glass?
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If using the plus, it has a flat screen and UV glass isn't necessarily needed. The UV glass really excels in the curved screen market where most of the glass screens only have glue in the corners or have other issue towards the edges. The liquid glue allowed for better flash adherence to the screen. For the plus I would just get highly rated 9h tempered glass.
who cares? said:
If using the plus, it has a flat screen and UV glass isn't necessarily needed. The UV glass really excels in the curved screen market where most of the glass screens only have glue in the corners or have other issue towards the edges. The liquid glue allowed for better flash adherence to the screen. For the plus I would just get highly rated 9h tempered glass.
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I see. But how about the problem with the fingerprint sensor? I see a lot of people having issues when using a tempered glass protector with their Samsung fingerprint sensors. And that's why most of them say that a TPU film is enough.
Thanks for everyone's replies, after a lot of fear, hassle, and a bit of a loss of money I decided on a film protector which is working 100% fine.
Not sure if I just picked rubbish glass screen protectors, but they caused me big issues. Neither would work with fingerprint reader and because they were hard, my original case was lifting the sides of the protector a bit, meaning touch was less sensitive.
The first glass protector I tried was UV and when it came to taking this off, that was a little scary with this brand-new phone!
Trying to peel it back off was a hard job, was very stuck and was actually cracking as I was slowly lifting it off.
So now I have a different case that doesn't affect the protector and a film protector and all seems good now
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I see. But how about the problem with the fingerprint sensor? I see a lot of people having issues when using a tempered glass protector with their Samsung fingerprint sensors. And that's why most of them say that a TPU film is enough.
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Very little issues. Honestly it's works as well as the tpu film did I had on my s21 ultra. I wanted glass over the film on the ultra because of the pen. I wasn't sure how the pen tip would work with indenting the tpu film. I like the feel of the glass a lot better.
Before my S23U arrived I already had the case and glass ready. Didn't even power it on first, but went right away and applied this UV glass.
No issues with case causing glass come off. Glass needs to be perfectly aligned.
I did the same with my N9 that I traded in - not a scratch anywhere, although I dropped it few times and the UV glass saved it And I had N9 for full 4 years..
No issues when I took the glass off before shipping N9 back to Samsung.

After using these on my S21 Ultra, I purchased the same for my S23 Ultra and installed it today. Took about 15 minutes and extremely happy with the results. Feels like the original glass and most times don't even notice it's on. Additionally, customer support is top notch. Any issues and they send out replacements without issue. They're also available for installation support if needed.
The key is to watch the installation video and read the instructions multiple times and clean clean clean the phone.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BMDLDPY6?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
I live in Asia and use Zeelot glass screen uv protector. Fingerprints work well and didn't have issue with my case
I used DomeGlass from Note9 (was little thick)>N20U and S22U and overall was good and happy but usually after few months under glass I saw "spider web" from glue on the edges.
Now in my S23U use Polish product like 3mk film and I am positive surprised good quality- thin, good sticks on the edges and low dirt from fingers similar, smooth spen use.
In this year don't miss to domeglass.
Nevertheless dome glass is good product but very expensive, installation with YT step by step is even easy
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I used DomeGlass from Note9 (was little thick)>N20U and S22U and overall was good and happy but usually after few months under glass I saw "spider web" from glue on the edges.
Now in my S23U use Polish product like 3mk film and I am positive surprised good quality- thin, good sticks on the edges and low dirt from fingers similar, smooth spen use.
In this year don't miss to domeglass.
Nevertheless dome glass is good product but very expensive, installation with YT step by step is even easy
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I'm thinking of original samsung screen protector, however there are very bad reviews from one that it is not easy to put it on, but ppl who manage to do it are very happy, no peel of on screen edge and good feeling with finger. What exactly 3mk model of film You use? Hammer maybe?
aureum said:
I'm thinking of original samsung screen protector, however there are very bad reviews from one that it is not easy to put it on, but ppl who manage to do it are very happy, no peel of on screen edge and good feeling with finger. What exactly 3mk model of film You use? Hammer maybe?
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Yes, I think too about original samsung screen protector but I will buy it after receive points (about few days) thanks to buy phone in official site. Change my 3mk if I see issues but after 1 week (I know it's small period time) all is fine with case spigen tough armor.
However I don't sure that later, will not unstick because is full dimension from corner to corner with my case.
Easy wet application like similar film protectors.
Mine is 3mk Silver protection:
Folia na ekran Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra - 3mk SilverProtection+
Antyuderzeniowa folia ochronna, wzmacnia ekran do 400%, powłoka samoregenerująca, łatwy montaż. Zabezpiecz Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra. Oficjalny sklep producenta
sklep.3mk.pl
This is local product of my country - Poland
i use domeglass and spigen ultra hyprid clear case, because of Red Color from phone.
Its fit perfect together.