So I got my new xperia z2 today, and of course I turned it on right away, and when the battery was at 10% ( it was around 60 when first turned it on) I noticed that the starting instructions said that you need to charge the phone at least 30minutes before turning it on first time. I turned it off and started charging it. Does this affect my battery life? Did I make a huge mistake? because the batterylife is pretty important for me. Thanks a lot for answers and sorry if English is bad because I'm from Finland.
@uabeli Heippa ja tervetulo. No it shouldn't make a difference m8. Just go through a couple of charge cycles (100% to 0%) to calibrate your battery and all is good:good: here is a link to info you might find helpfull. Hope it helps m8. Oh, and enjoy your Z2:highfive:
If you wanna keep your battery in good health make sure to not let it drain below ~15%
Also what really kills the battery is not charging it for a while after it reached 0% so avoid that at all costs.
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Hi this is my first ever post so please bear with me, my lumia like many others suffers from ridiculous battery drain I have the new software and yes I can now charge to the max. However the battery cannot last the day out until I discovered this. Most people I know continually top up there battery, but if you just let it completely die then do a full charge overnight you may like me notice a massive increase in battery life, I have changed nothing about the way I use my phone the only difference is it now lasts 2 days easily.
The figures quoted in battery saver have not changed but as the day goes on the time since last charge goes up but so does the estimated battery life.
My phone is now IMO fantastic.
Maybe if you tried this it might work for you too, do hope so.
One word of caution when the phone has died the phone cannot be switched on until charger has been plugged in for some time, in my case about 20 minutes after plug in the phone switches itself on.
Please try and maybe you will also have the most amazing phone too.
whu1958 said:
Hi this is my first ever post so please bear with me, my lumia like many others suffers from ridiculous battery drain I have the new software and yes I can now charge to the max. However the battery cannot last the day out until I discovered this. Most people I know continually top up there battery, but if you just let it completely die then do a full charge overnight you may like me notice a massive increase in battery life, I have changed nothing about the way I use my phone the only difference is it now lasts 2 days easily.
The figures quoted in battery saver have not changed but as the day goes on the time since last charge goes up but so does the estimated battery life.
My phone is now IMO fantastic.
Maybe if you tried this it might work for you too, do hope so.
One word of caution when the phone has died the phone cannot be switched on until charger has been plugged in for some time, in my case about 20 minutes after plug in the phone switches itself on.
Please try and maybe you will also have the most amazing phone too.
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I think I experienced something similar. I then flashed the new firmware and am back to lower battery life. Need to take the time for a few discharge cycles.
The problem with this approach is that some Lumia 800's cannot turn on after a full discharge. People have gone to great lengths to be able to get a tiny bit of charge so that it could power on. Some people have had to send them back for repair.
Question to TS. Do you let it completely die every time now or can you charge it whenever and still get the great battery life?
battery fix maybe
Hi after letting the phone die I have not done it again since, I just top up as needed or at night just as you would normally do.
Hope this helps.
Okey. When you say "completely let it die" do you mean letting it drain and turn off. Or do you start it once again after the first turning off and let it die again?
battery fix maybey
Just use the phone till it turns itself off, then plug in charger, this is when you may have to wait for the phone to switch on, mine turns itself on after about 20 minutes, charge as normal then use as normal, charging as you would normally do.
Good luck.
I did this once intentionally about two weeks ago. Did not notice any difference really. I do not have "bad" battery life to begin with. Not great either though. But it easily lasts a full day with heavy usage which is all I need really.
12 hours since last charge. 73% left on battery. I have used it "normally". About 10 quick calls. A few messages. Browsing on the marketplace installing a few apps editing contacts etc...
I'm pretty heavy on my usage, too. Lots of Mix Radio, sometimes played via bluetooth.
I really enjoyed the S2 guide(somewhere here in xda) about tweaking the phone so as to maximise potential battery time.
With the increased battery of the S3 I know its not as big of a deal but I'd still love to see a few tips on how to go about getting as much juice as possible from the battery on the S3?
chicoelnino said:
I really enjoyed the S2 guide(somewhere here in xda) about tweaking the phone so as to maximise potential battery time.
With the increased battery of the S3 I know its not as big of a deal but I'd still love to see a few tips on how to go about getting as much juice as possible from the battery on the S3?
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I think the first few charge cycles to any battery determine how well they perform, I have put my S3 through 4 full charge cycles so far and the longest life I've had out of it is a smidge over 36 hours with fairly frequent usage, I'm looking in to optimisations for it but I think the charge cycles are key to good long term performance.
Would you mind explaining what a charge cycle is?
Sure..
Basically when I first got the phone I put the battery in and left it charging for ~16-18 hours before I even turned it on, next morning unplugged, turned it on, went through set up etc.. hammered it all day until battery died, went through the same process again (repeated x4 so far, on 5th full charge now)
It is important to charge fully then discharge fully a few times to allow the battery to exercise and calibrate its maximum potential.
After this partial charges are fine, but worth doing a charge/discharge/charge at least once a month to allow the calibration to remain good
Hope that helps,
R.
radialblur said:
Sure..
Basically when I first got the phone I put the battery in and left it charging for ~16-18 hours before I even turned it on, next morning unplugged, turned it on, went through set up etc.. hammered it all day until battery died, went through the same process again (repeated x4 so far, on 5th full charge now)
It is important to charge fully then discharge fully a few times to allow the battery to exercise and calibrate its maximum potential.
After this partial charges are fine, but worth doing a charge/discharge/charge at least once a month to allow the calibration to remain good
Hope that helps,
R.
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It's not necessary to charge up the phone before using it the first time I was told. If you drain it first time then proceed as you said afterwards its still basically the same thing imo.
Cool. Thanks for the responses. I'll definitely try one of these methods.
chicoelnino said:
It's not necessary to charge up the phone before using it the first time I was told. If you drain it first time then proceed as you said afterwards its still basically the same thing imo.
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I'm not saying it's necessary, but if you want to condition the cells correctly it is advisable.
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I'm not saying it's necessary, but if you want to condition the cells correctly it is advisable.
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That is not true, a technician told me that newer batteries doest have to be drained and fully charged to perform optimal. It WAS neccesary back in the day with the older devices and no smartphones etc.
It is clearly marked on the directions to charge fully before use
Hi all!
This may sound quite noobish, but I feel better doing the right thing from the start.
On the equipment manual they ask you to charge your phone before first usage, however many people defend that since the battery has some charge when unboxing, that the battery should first be drained (phone usage) and only then charged.
Can anyone shed some light for me on this issue?
Thanks!
I'll ask in a different way since no one answered me...
what did you do with your phone, first finished the half-charged battery that came with the phone, or before first use you charged it full?
i opened the box and set up my phone and used it til it fully drained and turned itself off. then i charged it whilst still turned off when i was asleep (about 8-9 hrs). turned it back on .... i also only put the charger in now if its under 15% (dunno why i just do ) maybe its my ocd lol
My old phone's (Xperia S) battery drains very fast (can't last for a day) after 2 years of use. When it was new it lasted about one and a half day. I charged it every day for 2 years and the battery became weaker. I don't want this to happen with my Z2. I use dock for charging my Z2. USB cable or dock is better for the battery? And when should I charge it? wait while the battery drains full or charge it every day and don't let it drain, just about half, or don't charge it full and get it drained every day. And how long should I charge it? just that time while it charge full or leave it charging for longer (a whole night, about 10h)
someone please
I dont think it has anything to do with the way you are using to charge your phone... It's just natural for the battery to need to be replaced after a couple of years as far as i know
As far as I'm aware, after about 500 charge cycles the battery stops charging to full capacity (although it says it is). So the battery quality degrades over time regardless.
the battery of the Z2 is hardly affected by how you charge or how many times its charged
itll start degrading over time
it should be a Li-ion battery (referencing the packaging instructions for Z2)
Envious_Data said:
the battery of the Z2 is hardly affected by how you charge or how many times its charged
itll start degrading over time
it should be a Li-ion battery (referencing the packaging instructions for Z2)
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yeah, I know that it's affected by how do I charge how many times, but I wanna know that what's the best for the battery
maddboss said:
yeah, I know that it's affected by how do I charge how many times, but I wanna know that what's the best for the battery
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just charge normaly,
somehow i get the best life out of charging randomly, e.g. never 0>100% or simular but instead 20 to 60% increments gives me the best total life
in terms of wear, cant do anything with a Li-ion battery as far as i know
ok, better charge it when it gets as low as 30% and better not fully charge it, but 85-90% will be great for long term life. and never let it connected if it happened to reach 100%, also better keep it somewhere cold and definitely not under sunlight
It is said to live longer if you charge it from 50 to 90%.
That said, if you charge it from 0 to 100% every 2 days, or charge it from 50 to 90% ever day.... well... the end result is the same... it doesn't matter at all.
The battery already has safety over/undervoltage protection, therfore charching it as you like doesn't change much at all. You will see that a phone left at 100% in the charger will drop to 97-95% before it starts charging again.
i think the battery in the Z2 was said to handle about 600 cycles with less than 10% Battery degration.
if you charge it every 2 days thats about 3.5 years.
There is a lot of false information floating in this thread.(and lol Z2 deals with all, 10/10 loyalty) I was actually replying to this but I wanted a bigger audience to take better care of their battery, so check my thread out : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60299964&postcount=1
Hello
I have a Huawei device: P9 Lite 2017
i´ve never had permofance problems and thats fine, but its battery its a nightmare
This battery life had being a problem for me since it drained from 100% to 0 in less than an hour, i´ve stick a dc plug-in to let it charge the whole day and to stay 100% all the time, it worked for a month, but the battery continued to give me problems: even pluged-in it started to turn off suddendly with no apparent reason. so mi first question is:
[1]: How to adapt my device battery directly from a dc supply to make it work from a charger instead of that nightmare battery.
(i´ve searched for compatible batteries and there are out of stock, also, ive tried to adapt by myself with no success)
[2]: (secondary) my screen is broken, I want to know if there´s a way to adapt a screen from another device to the mine, since there is no more screens like the one my device uses in the stores (ive been using software to mirror to pc and even to crontol the screen for pc but i need a touchable scrren .
thank for replying, and sorry
for my bad english.
post in the proper section questions go in q/a
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Hello
I have a Huawei device: P9 Lite 2017
i´ve never had permofance problems and thats fine, but its battery its a nightmare
This battery life had being a problem for me since it drained from 100% to 0 in less than an hour, i´ve stick a dc plug-in to let it charge the whole day and to stay 100% all the time, it worked for a month, but the battery continued to give me problems: even pluged-in it started to turn off suddendly with no apparent reason.
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Reasons for this can be:
1. A huge amount of battery cells are defective
2. Battery is incorrectly calibrated
IMHO it's bad practice to charge a lithium-ion battery more than 80%, let it drain less than 30%. Full cycle ( 0% to 100% ) and overnight charging shortens life-time of battery.