If it ain't broke...see if it'll go faster. That's what I tried, BUT ended up
If it ain't broke...fix it 'til it is!
I posted this in XDA Assist, but as I suspected, I've well hosed this one, with probably no way up, but here goes. I promise, next time I won't be so wild. I know now that if you must burn your bridges, don't be standing on them!
Android 4.2.2
It's rooted with Vroot, has SuperSU and Titanium Backup Pro, shows rooted.
Had ADB working, tablet taking commands.
I first tried to put in CWM recovery for the HSG1279, supposed to be the same tablet, just bigger screen. I don't even know now whether THAT'S true or not.
Started in recovery mode, but was just stock, so I tried arctools to put in a generic Rockchip CWM 6.0.3.1. That's when things started going sideways. The install hung (imagine that!). The arctools had a forced restart of some kind, so I used that. When I got back to my home screen (whew!), I used Titanium backup to see what recovery mode looked like. The tablet went dark, and would not power on. I did the paper clip trick, which got it started, but did NOT wipe anything out, so not a hard reset. Any time after that when I tried to restart in recovery mode, the hard shutdown with the clip was required. Yesterday afternoon, I went off to work for about 3 hours, leaving the tablet on, but in standby. When I came back, the tablet was dark and no amount of paper clipping would help. It would not recognize a charge. Not being one to duck a fight, I opened the case and unsoldered the black (-) wire at the PC board. The battery measured some voltage, but I didn't notice how much, about 1/4 on the 25v. scale. I soldered it back on, put it back together without any further incident. It sill does just what it was doing...nothing. I have noticed that when it's plugged into my PC's USB port, and I reset with the clip, Unknown Device shows up in my PC's Devices And Printers list. When I unplug the cable, I get the stock Windows "be-boop" USB removal sound. When I plug it back in, I get a short "boo-boo-boop" sound. That's where it is now. Anyone have any ideas on getting it going again? For me, no more trying files that aren't made specifically for this oddball tablet. This has been a fairly expensive lesson in that.
Thanks for any help.
~Bob~
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Hello,
Yes, I am a noob, and after searching and looking through a lot of threads, I decided to make this post, knowing full well how annoying it must seem to those of you who actually know even a little about phones.
Someone special to me got the HTC HD2, and it was a bargain. But she hated windows, so I offered to help. She's had it for ages by now.
I believe I did everything correctly, blindly following guides (which I know is a bad idea from reading threads similar to this one).
The thing that makes my problem somewhat special is:
- Everything went smoothly, the android build is amazing
- I was a hero for a few hours
- She's playing some game when it suddenly freezes.
- Buttons not responding, afraid the battery has to go.
- Boots up, android guy stares at us for more than five minutes, battery has to go again.
- Nothing, NOTHING, happens after. Can't boot, screen is black.
So obviously I'm suspecting the battery is completely dead. It won't charge either from the computer or by plugging it to the wall. It was connected when it crashed, and there must have been power left. Now, I have the HTC desire HD, so I can't test my battery with the other phone.
Before I try to buy a new one, I need to know, being completely oblivious with regards to anything more complicated than rocks, if it's possible that I have installed any kind of software that can permanently mess up a battery. Feel free to laugh if this is the dumbest question ever. It's weird how it booted a little before permantently shutting down.
To make matters a lot worse, she's going abroad for five months possibly only equipped with a really old nokia phone until I can get things fixed and sent off to her (which will be quite expensive and perhaps risky.)
Have I messed up good, or is it just chance that the battery should fry hours after getting the android rom? Should I get a new one? Her phone was actually smoother than mine until the crash.
Sorry to make yet another "dumb noob ruins phone" but I really need to redeem myself, and fast.
Edit: Remembered the course of events was a bit different.
well, if I tell you that the phone wont charge when off when magldr is installed, would that change your opinion of whether the battery is at fault?
id suspect the crash broke something preventing rebooting (had this myself once or twice with nand android ) followed by teh battery being flat so wouldnt come back on. (And of course magldr wont let it charge when off....)
get an old usb cable, any type, cut end off, bare red and black wires, plug into wall charger and then hold red to + black to - on the battery for about a minute, this should let the phone start, , put it into bootloader (coloured stripey screen, not magldr) and let it sit there for a hour or three with usb plugged in, should now be charged enough to see if you can get into magldr, from there into cwm, and from there id do a backup, and then perform 'wipe data/factory reset', , if it boots to the clean rom, you can try (again in cwm) selectively restore the data and/or sd-ext partitions, which should bring back teh data and the installed apps. if the restore doesnt work, just do another wipe data/factory reset and start from scratch.
also, check the battery pins very carefully, they bend easily, especially when you pull teh battery whilst panicking!
samsamuel said:
well, if I tell you that the phone wont charge when off when magldr is installed, would that change your opinion of whether the battery is at fault?
id suspect the crash broke something preventing rebooting (had this myself once or twice with nand android ) followed by teh battery being flat so wouldnt come back on. (And of course magldr wont let it charge when off....)
get an old usb cable, any type, cut end off, bare red and black wires, plug into wall charger and then hold red to + black to - on the battery for about a minute, this should let the phone start, , put it into bootloader (coloured stripey screen, not magldr) and let it sit there for a hour or three with usb plugged in, should now be charged enough to see if you can get into magldr, from there into cwm, and from there id do a backup, and then perform 'wipe data/factory reset', , if it boots to the clean rom, you can try (again in cwm) selectively restore the data and/or sd-ext partitions, which should bring back teh data and the installed apps. if the restore doesnt work, just do another wipe data/factory reset and start from scratch.
also, check the battery pins very carefully, they bend easily, especially when you pull teh battery whilst panicking!
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What ARE you?
It started. Honestly, when I was crossing wires I half suspected someone was pulling my leg. I can't thank you enough. Maybe I will be able to get this thing running again before I leave in the morning. I'll visit the link in your signature at a later point, too, as you may have saved me some money here.
The only real problem is that with no prior experience, I didn't even really get into what the different programs I installed actually do, so I'm not even sure where to go from magldr. I took a backup of what was essential before flashing, so I guess I'll just try to navigate to wiping and resetting. So relieved.
e: Progress, thanks again, fantastic.
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e: Progress, thanks again, fantastic.
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youre welcome.
Last night I bought a brand new Streak 5 from a local guy. Box was sealed, no mention of refurb, inner contents were sealed.
I didn't have time to test it and the guy I bought it from said he had gotten it a while back from a work raffle and that it had been sitting in a drawer in his house - I have no reason not to trust that he was lying to me.
When I actually got time to unbox it, I popped the battery in and tried to turn it on. The menu buttons lit up briefly and then when out. The screen never came on. Since then, it has been completely unresponsive.
I've tried to charge it with the wall charger, as well as my PC. Neither seem to be doing anything and my PC doesn't recognize it - even with Dell's software installed.
I've tried to take out the battery and hook it up to the wall charger and my PC to get it to turn on.
I've removed the Micro SD.
There is no SIM card in it currently.
I ordered another battery and an external battery charger. They should be here in a few days. I have the current battery rigged up and charging with a spliced USB cord.
What else can I do? I feel like I've done everything "simple" thus far and I'm a little nervous when it comes to utilities like Streakflash.
I'm coming over from the iPhone world and my Android use has been limited at best. Any help is appreciated.
What happens on the device itself after having had a chance to charge?
Does it light up when you press the power button, or nothing at all?
Thanks for the response.
There is no indication that it's charging. The screen doesn't come on, or even flash. The buttons do not light up. However, I don't believe it's the cable or the connector since my PC responds with an unrecognized device -- "Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM" prompt. I also managed to get my PC to tell me that the device "wasn't plugged in."
I've tried to get some response out of it in every possible combination regarding the buttons, battery, back cover, microSD, and where it's plugged in. It just sits there. No lit screen, no lit menu buttons, nothing.
If it helps, I'm running Windows 7 64 bit. I've installed every possible thing I could find regarding the Dell drivers and my OS.
It sounds like your device somehow got shipped without having all the software installed onto it.
Can you provide more information about the device itself, such as it's manufacture date or any other info on the box/device labels? Devices getting shipped half baked like that isnt exactly common.
This sounds like a legitamate time to use QDL tool to reflash it, but I cant provide any help with that as I've never used it.
Can you use QDLTool if your computer doesn't even recognize it?
The date on the label is 10/12/2010.
If it's displaying as "Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM" that's a sign that it should be able to get into upload mode as that's what the driver qdl tool uses I believe.
It's likely out of warrentee already, so you prob have to fix it on your own if at all.
I can't get it to respond to anything I do. It's very disheartening. I really, really wanted this phone, too.
I'm downloading the latest version of Ubuntu. I'm going to see if I can make any headway through Linux.
I can't get QDLTool to pick-up the device, either. I get an error message when I try to use it and scanning for it does nothing.
Did you install the driver bundled with it properly?
If it still doesnt detect it after that it's likely a dud
use qdltool, you can download it from here
http://www.box.com/s/rj9xd5tl7v5amimbm3youll need to make sure you have all drivers installed though, info is on this forum somewhere,
once installed run the software on pc you should see a big box with "run" on it, click run then connect phone by holding volume up and connecting usb then qdltool will do rest from there
when i got my both my dell streak it was the same deal. first one came exactly as how you described it. I put in the battery, made SURE THAT THE CONNECTORS ARE lined up on the back case, and then tried to power it on. NOTHING.
It seems even if the battery was fully charged, the only real way to turn it on was to connect the streak to the power adapter and then press hold down the on button. WHen the device finally gave me the dell logo, it would just sit there stuck. So i took out the battery, and redid it. Then went into fastboot mode (hold camera and power) and it wouldnt detect the touch screen. It seems that the touch scree was faulty and hence it would remain stuck on the dell logo. I tried to calibrate the touch screen a few times, all failed. Then finally for one time it worked, and the touch screen came back to life. Shortly after though upon booting into the old stage 1.6, it restarted and the touch screen failed again.
So i sent it back to rogers and they gave me a replacement phone. Same deal, when you first put in the battery and the case it wouldnt start no matter what. Only upon plugging it into the power adapter then it starts up. However this new one had a functional touch screen.
1) check out the touch screen by using the fastboot, or stock recovery. If you get error messages, it means your screen is toast most likely and then you might have to open her up and see if all the connections are lined up
2) if it doesnt boot at all, try connecting it to the power adapter first and then after about 30 seconds power it on. You should be able to see the dell logo unless as the guys stated before the software is hosed.
3) if the software is totally hosed, tried to get it into fastboot mode or recovery and see if you can reflash the device.
something like that...
Thanks for the comments, guys.
As of now, it's still in the same position it was in. It doesn't respond to any combinations of buttons, battery in/or, or plugged into the wall/pc.
I'm assuming that the situation it's in currently is what's preventing any sort of legitimate connection between the phone and my PC.
My last shot is a battery and external charger that should be here next week.
I had an interesting scenario yesterday - using a CM9 nightly from about 3 or 4 nights ago. My TP had notification lights flickering away and had been sitting for the evening. I put it on charge and forgot about it for an hour or so. I decided that I'd grab the latest nightly and install, so after downloading, I pressed the power on button for the TP. The notification flashing went out and that was it, goodnight TP.
After lots of button press combos and connecting to the PC etc., I decided to pull the casing off and try pulling the battery to see if that would help. It didn't.
After a lot of charging, I even put the multimeter on the battery terminals and it read 3.6-something volts, so it appears to have charge, but no response at all. I get Android Phone->ADB drivers installed and active, but adb won't see any device.
So... like some others here, my TP won't recover from any of the 'usual' recovery efforts (yep, tried the doctor too). I don't think there's any miracle solution, but if there is one I'd be happy to hear about it.
Given that I've opened the case (which is obvious), has anyone had any experience with out-of-warranty unbricking from HP? How much do they charge etc?
I'd like to hear from anyone who has gone from hard brick to operational out-of-warranty.
Two days ago, I noticed that there was a firmware update for my Archos 101 while at work. I had my Archos with me but not the AC adapter; the tablet requires the user to plug it in before getting started. I paid a visit to Archos' website and downloaded the update file to my laptop instead, double-checking how to install it. Note that I don't have Internet access at home.
Recently, said tablet had been locking up extremely frequently, and without obvious reason or even any real pattern. I even tried a total device reset (wipe the internal user storage and reset the Android partition back to factory defaults) and it didn't help. I was fearing that the firmware had gotten corrupted, and figured that updating would help fix that.
When I got home that night, though, I was dead tired. I made a mental note to update using the offline method in the morning, although I did have the presence of mind to plug it in and get the battery charged. In the morning, I did as the instructions on Archos's website said: mount the device via USB and transfer the firmware update to the root of the user storage area. Unmount, let it detect it, and give it the okay. Simple enough. I hung around the house long enough to watch for an "update okay!" message, then bolted out the door so I'd make it to work on time.
I didn't return home until about 9 PM. After settling in, I picked up my tablet to check on it and see if the update did the trick. Nope! It froze again before I could even launch an app. Frustrated, I put it back down and held the power button to force a reset. When the screen powered off, I walked away to check on something.
I returned to find that the tablet's green power light (which is normally steady on) was blinking rapidly. As in 20 blinks as second or so. The screen was flickering on for less than a second at a time in roughly one-minute intervals. And - most alarmingly - the unit was HOT. I tried to pick it up and burned my hand a little on the metal backplate.
After some back-and-forth texting with a friend for advice, I ultimately opened up the tablet in an attempt to disconnect the batteries. Turned out that they're soldered to the board, though, so I left the tablet open to give the hot components a chance to cool. I'm hoping that the batteries drain quickly.
I basically have no idea if the tablet can be fixed, and if so, I'm scratching my head over how. Anyone here have any ideas?
Hi guys,
I'm truly desperate tonight. This morning I was at work and recieved a phone call. Answered, everything was fine, and put the phone back again on my desk. Half an hour ater, wanted to send a text, so I tried using the phone: screen remained black. I was like "ok,, this stupid S2 froze again, I'll just reboot it bu pulling the battery out".
Did so and........ still nothing. WTF? So I tried plugging it to charge (AC adapter). No "battery" symbol on screen, nothing. Starting to freak out a bit... I trie with a colleague's AC Adapter, same deal. I also tried with his battery, still no go. Phone remains totally off, nothing on screen, can't enter download mode. The only change when I remove the battery/put it back in is that the phone remains cold at first, and then a couple seconds (30?) after I hit the power button, you can start feeling CPU/GPU getting warmer on the right of the camera lens. So basically there's electricity flowing.
Tonight I gave it a go and opened it up to check if something's fried inside. The only odd thing was that BAT500 (google for some explainations) had leaked but the leak was NOT (and I really mean it) causing damages (yet). I removed the battery, as it does not impact dramatically the phone (just causes the date etc to reset to 01/01 when you remove the battery, apparently). But phone still won't boot, no logo, no "battery chrging", no light on screen...
This really looks like the "hard brick" emmc bug, however I've been running 4.0.3 rooted with Chainfire's CWM kernel for the last 6 months or so, and I never did any wipe or "reset to factory". So the so-called "hard brick bug" shouldn't occur. But symptoms sure look like it.
So to get back to my opening phrase, I am truly desperate. I do have backups of nearly every SMS/MMS (maybe not the last 2-3 days but well... I'll get over it) on my Gmail account, however what I don't have is a backup of my contacts. For some reasons, I don't like my contacts to be synced with Gmail, so they were left on the phone's memory (and not the SD card, because I always thought (how stupid of me) "well why put a SD card inside when there's like 16GB of embed storage ?!"). So I'm f**ked for my contacts, and also for many many pictures that were still inside the phone and not yet extracted to my computer.
So the question (for which I fear I already have the answer): is there ANYTHING I can do? i've contacted a guy in Paris who owns a USB jig, so I'll give it a try this week-end if he's available. But other than that, is there ANY way to recover something from my brick? Or someone witha genius idea of how to turn it back on for at least 5-10 minutes... ?
Any help is appreciated I'm really feeling stupid, as I'm always backuping everything, and I probably have backups of backups of backups.... but just not for this stupid phone...
Regards...
PS: Symptoms:
* Black screen, nothing booting nor charging
* When putting battery back on, nothing happens. If I hit the power button, phone starts getting just a bit warm near the lens (right side of it)
* No download mode
* Power+Vol down+Home + usb connection: nothing on screen, nothing on computer, no USB detected, ODIN sees nothing
* No it's not just the screen who died
Edit: Could JTAG be the magic solution? If so, is there any thread here like the "find a USB jig near you"... ? Wouldn't find the equivalent.
CoinCoin88 said:
Hi guys,
I'm truly desperate tonight. This morning I was at work and recieved a phone call. Answered, everything was fine, and put the phone back again on my desk. Half an hour ater, wanted to send a text, so I tried using the phone: screen remained black. I was like "ok,, this stupid S2 froze again, I'll just reboot it bu pulling the battery out".
Did so and........ still nothing. WTF? So I tried plugging it to charge (AC adapter). No "battery" symbol on screen, nothing. Starting to freak out a bit... I trie with a colleague's AC Adapter, same deal. I also tried with his battery, still no go. Phone remains totally off, nothing on screen, can't enter download mode. The only change when I remove the battery/put it back in is that the phone remains cold at first, and then a couple seconds (30?) after I hit the power button, you can start feeling CPU/GPU getting warmer on the right of the camera lens. So basically there's electricity flowing.
Tonight I gave it a go and opened it up to check if something's fried inside. The only odd thing was that BAT500 (google for some explainations) had leaked but the leak was NOT (and I really mean it) causing damages (yet). I removed the battery, as it does not impact dramatically the phone (just causes the date etc to reset to 01/01 when you remove the battery, apparently). But phone still won't boot, no logo, no "battery chrging", no light on screen...
This really looks like the "hard brick" emmc bug, however I've been running 4.0.3 rooted with Chainfire's CWM kernel for the last 6 months or so, and I never did any wipe or "reset to factory". So the so-called "hard brick bug" shouldn't occur. But symptoms sure look like it.
So to get back to my opening phrase, I am truly desperate. I do have backups of nearly every SMS/MMS (maybe not the last 2-3 days but well... I'll get over it) on my Gmail account, however what I don't have is a backup of my contacts. For some reasons, I don't like my contacts to be synced with Gmail, so they were left on the phone's memory (and not the SD card, because I always thought (how stupid of me) "well why put a SD card inside when there's like 16GB of embed storage ?!"). So I'm f**ked for my contacts, and also for many many pictures that were still inside the phone and not yet extracted to my computer.
So the question (for which I fear I already have the answer): is there ANYTHING I can do? i've contacted a guy in Paris who owns a USB jig, so I'll give it a try this week-end if he's available. But other than that, is there ANY way to recover something from my brick? Or someone witha genius idea of how to turn it back on for at least 5-10 minutes... ?
Any help is appreciated I'm really feeling stupid, as I'm always backuping everything, and I probably have backups of backups of backups.... but just not for this stupid phone...
Regards...
PS: Symptoms:
* Black screen, nothing booting nor charging
* When putting battery back on, nothing happens. If I hit the power button, phone starts getting just a bit warm near the lens (right side of it)
* No download mode
* Power+Vol down+Home + usb connection: nothing on screen, nothing on computer, no USB detected, ODIN sees nothing
* No it's not just the screen who died
Edit: Could JTAG be the magic solution? If so, is there any thread here like the "find a USB jig near you"... ? Wouldn't find the equivalent.
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Sorry to say your motherboard is fried...
Only motherboard replacement will do...
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