Hi,
This is my first time writing here so excuse any of my mistakes.
Its been one year that I own the galaxy s3 and it seems to me very slow, with too many lags. And becomes even slower any time I join wifi and even worse when I finish surfing at facebook.
I always have 700mb RAM out of 830mb. I tried everything, reduce animation, disable ripple effect, clear cache etc. Nothing !!!
Im afraid rooting, mainly because I don’t want to start all over againg setting up wifi passwords, apps etc.
I would like your advice, either for improvement without root, or for the best way to root, cyanogenmod etc.
Thanx
aalecou said:
Hi,
This is my first time writing here so excuse any of my mistakes.
Its been one year that I own the galaxy s3 and it seems to me very slow, with too many lags. And becomes even slower any time I join wifi and even worse when I finish surfing at facebook.
I always have 700mb RAM out of 830mb. I tried everything, reduce animation, disable ripple effect, clear cache etc. Nothing !!!
Im afraid rooting, mainly because I don’t want to start all over againg setting up wifi passwords, apps etc.
I would like your advice, either for improvement without root, or for the best way to root, cyanogenmod etc.
Thanx
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Rooting can speed up your phone alot, it did for me. You won't have to put in passwords and whatnot if you just root and modify the stock rom. If you say install cyanogenmod, then that's installing a new operating system so you wont have all your settings saved, apps and data can be backed up by using titanium backup though.
Best and easiest way to root would be CF-Auto root http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/gt-i930x-t-n-cf-auto-root-t1957273 Just follow the instructions on that.
Grimzee said:
Rooting can speed up your phone alot, it did for me. You won't have to put in passwords and whatnot if you just root and modify the stock rom. If you say install cyanogenmod, then that's installing a new operating system so you wont have all your settings saved, apps and data can be backed up by using titanium backup though.
Best and easiest way to root would be CF-Auto root http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/gt-i930x-t-n-cf-auto-root-t1957273 Just follow the instructions on that.
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Thanx for your response.
So, if i just root i will not lose anything, not even my apps and data?
aalecou said:
Thanx for your response.
So, if i just root i will not lose anything, not even my apps and data?
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The reason you root your device is to gain access to the root directory of your device. You won't lose apps or data, only if you flash a custom rom (unless you make a backup).
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The reason you root your device is to gain access to the root directory or your device. You won't lose apps or data, only if you flash a custom rom (unless you make a backup).
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Thats great.
Thanx again
aalecou said:
Thats great.
Thanx again
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You're welcome. Hope all goes well and enjoy having root. Also welcome to XDA
Sorry,how can i disable root counter.Triangle Away ?
Grimzee said:
Rooting can speed up your phone alot, it did for me. You won't have to put in passwords and whatnot if you just root and modify the stock rom. If you say install cyanogenmod, then that's installing a new operating system so you wont have all your settings saved, apps and data can be backed up by using titanium backup though.
Best and easiest way to root would be CF-Auto root http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/gt-i930x-t-n-cf-auto-root-t1957273 Just follow the instructions on that.
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i recommend Custom ROM. Once you succeed in flashing rom. U will njoy trying new roms in our device.
Follow Instructions & do carefully. Rooting is justa one time process.
Later on you can flash new roms any times.
HI again.
I managed to root with cf.
Everythink ok. But i dont see any triangle. So i dont need to use "triangle away"?
aalecou said:
HI again.
I managed to root with cf.
Everythink ok. But i dont see any triangle. So i dont need to use "triangle away"?
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You don't need to use Triangle away every now and then. You can use it when you want to take it to service centre!
Grimzee said:
Rooting can speed up your phone alot, it did for me. You won't have to put in passwords and whatnot if you just root and modify the stock rom. If you say install cyanogenmod, then that's installing a new operating system so you wont have all your settings saved, apps and data can be backed up by using titanium backup though.
Best and easiest way to root would be CF-Auto root http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/gt-i930x-t-n-cf-auto-root-t1957273 Just follow the instructions on that.
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I've rooted with the method you sugested and everything is ok, but my phone did not become much faster. It still needs feww seconds to show contacts, logs etc.
Is this related to ram? Should i do something about it? Any tweaks or apps?
enabling root access
Hi Guys,
I have installed the WhatsApp Tri-Crypt application. Now for the application to work i need to enable root access but i dont know how to do that. Please help
aalecou said:
I've rooted with the method you sugested and everything is ok, but my phone did not become much faster. It still needs feww seconds to show contacts, logs etc.
Is this related to ram? Should i do something about it? Any tweaks or apps?
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Rooting is just granting access to the root directory on your device, this wont speed your phone up at all. Depends, if you want to overclock it with a custom kernel then you can speed it up, otherwise because you have just granted root access you would probably still have all the bloatware on it, removing this can speed up your phone aswell, because this will give you more ram.
Then there always another way, which is to flash a custom rom, they dont usually have any bloat, if any at all, so they can be faster
Grimzee said:
Rooting is just granting access to the root directory on your device, this wont speed your phone up at all. Depends, if you want to overclock it with a custom kernel then you can speed it up, otherwise because you have just granted root access you would probably still have all the bloatware on it, removing this can speed up your phone aswell, because this will give you more ram.
Then there always another way, which is to flash a custom rom, they dont usually have any bloat, if any at all, so they can be faster
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Great. So if i backup everything with titanium, then flash custom rom (i would appreciate any suggestions for a light one) then i will be able to restore everything?
aalecou said:
Great. So if i backup everything with titanium, then flash custom rom (i would appreciate any suggestions for a light one) then i will be able to restore everything?
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Only apps and their data, nothing else. Make sure you understand what you are doing, as you seem to be missing a lot of basic knowledge.
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Only apps and their data, nothing else. Make sure you understand what you are doing, as you seem to be missing a lot of basic knowledge.
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Thats true...
Thats why im seeking for help.
Thanx.
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Only apps and their data, nothing else. Make sure you understand what you are doing, as you seem to be missing a lot of basic knowledge.
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aalecou said:
Thats true...
Thats why im seeking for help.
Thanx.
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Not to worry though,if you read everything before you flash a custom rom and follow the developers instructions, you should be fine. But never forget a backup of your apps and data or youll just have to download them all again. Also making nandroid backups is recommended if anything goes wrong at any point, I said that assuming you would have custom recovery
Thanks
Grimzee said:
Rooting can speed up your phone alot, it did for me. You won't have to put in passwords and whatnot if you just root and modify the stock rom. If you say install cyanogenmod, then that's installing a new operating system so you wont have all your settings saved, apps and data can be backed up by using titanium backup though.
Best and easiest way to root would be CF-Auto root http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/gt-i930x-t-n-cf-auto-root-t1957273 Just follow the instructions on that.
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Thanks dude I am also planning to Root my phone and install good Rom....
pradeepbm said:
Thanks dude I am also planning to Root my phone and install good Rom....
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No worries, glad ive helped
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No worries, glad ive helped
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Thanks..... :good::good::good:
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Fair warning: I've never rooted a phone before. I've dabbled in ADB with my nook color, but am far from comfortable with it. I installed Honeycomb on the nook color, then decided to just go simple with autonooter.
Now, I'm thinking of rooting my new Thunderbolt. Mostly because I'd like to get rid of all of the bloatware and try to get all of the performance out of my phone as I can get. After having the Droid1 for a couple of years, I do not want to see my phone get laggy like my D1 did.
So here come the beginner questions: once I root the phone, I know I need to get ROM Manager and Titanium Backup. Those apps will let me be able to get back all of my data and preferences, etc once I switch ROMs right?
What else will I need after rooting? Is it a simple process to flash a new ROM?
Can anyone suggest a (mostly) stock ROM that just gets rid of the bloatware and gives the phones performance a boost?
Also, does a rooted phone require a lot of maintenance? For instance, will I have to be updating ROMS often? Also, if an OTA comes out for non-rooted phones, do these updates get worked into the ROMs quickly? I dont want to be without a necessary update, ya know?
Last question: Once I root my phone, should I just cancel the insurance on the phone? Or does "voiding the warranty" only mean that VZW wont fix it for free?
Thanks!
First off, I highly recommend following this rooting method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616 and not using the easy root method. If you have any problems at all, you can log into http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951190 and get some help. I also highly recommend reading up a bit on ADB, what it is and how it works http://www.xda-developers.com/android/adb-easy-tutorial/
Then...once you get rooted use ROM Manager to flash the clockworkmod recovery. In ROM Manager there's a little fix that everyone's been doing: open ROM Manager, menu>clear download cache, then settings>erase recovery. Then do your backup before you do anything else like flashing another ROM. Use Titanium to backup all your apps. I recommend the paid versions of both since you will be using them a lot.
Added: What I usually do the first time: Root, backup rom, install debloated rom, set everything up like I want it and then backup again. Each time I flash a new ROM, I create a backup of it all set up and with the name so that I can easily switch back and forth. I like change
The basic debloat rom is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000103
It's easy to flash a new ROM, just download the one you want, put it on your sdcard and then use ROM Manager to 'install from sdcard'
You are going to be flashing ROMs left and right because they come out so fast. Each time an update is out, it'll be put into a ROM and released for all of us here so that you stay current. Most OTA updates will remove your root, so I wouldn't suggest applying them. Many ROMs will block the OTA updates, but not all of them do; at least in my experience.
I would not recommend getting rid of your insurance, it is different than the warranty and you can get your phone replaced if it's ever damaged. I've used it 3 times now all on rooted phones. It indeed will void the warranty.
Happy rooting!
^ +1. I did use the easy root method and had no problems with it but it is truly still hit or miss. I am sure it will get better as more developers start pushing new stuff out.
Good luck
Thanks for the reply!
Why dont you recommend using the easy root method that I've been reading so much about? I realize it has some faults, but I'm planning on waiting until an updated version comes out. I'm a bit afraid to brick my phone while trying to root the phone myself.
Also, after rooting, how can i do a backup of my apps? Doesnt rooting wipe all of the data on my phone?
Learning ADB would be helpful...I must admit, I am an easy root junkie. I just don't have the time to learn ADB. Maybe someday that will change.
Rooting will wipe your phone and I use Titanium Backup to back up my apps. It does make it a lot easier once you start flashing ROMs on a daily basis
Because the non-easy method doesn't have any flaws, thus has a lot less chance of bricking your phone. If you copy and paste, then you reduce your chance to brick to practically 0.
-Gilgamesh- said:
Because the non-easy method doesn't have any flaws, thus has a lot less chance of bricking your phone. If you copy and paste, then you reduce your chance to brick to practically 0.
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Thanks! After watching a video of someone rooting, I think I will be able to do the non-easy method.
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Because the non-easy method doesn't have any flaws, thus has a lot less chance of bricking your phone. If you copy and paste, then you reduce your chance to brick to practically 0.
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This reason as well as you can get instant support in irc.
Zalyia38 said:
This reason as well as you can get instant support in irc.
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Thanks.
So to answer my previous question: When rooting, I'm still going to lose all of my current information including apps, sms, etc. However, its good to backup my phone before installing the debloated rom.
Is that correct?
Correct - when you root your phone, you're wiping everything except the sdcard, so you need to backup your apps and such.
And we should stop using the term 'not-easy' root ... how about 'less easy', it's not as scary
Another quick question: I downloaded all of the necessary files.
When I try to open up the RUU_Mecha zip file, it tells me that the file is invalid or corrupted.
I've downloaded it twice from different sources and this happened both times.
Any idea why this is the case?
Can anyone point me to where I can get a non-corrupt version?
CorporateGoth said:
Correct - when you root your phone, you're wiping everything except the sdcard, so you need to backup your apps and such.
And we should stop using the term 'not-easy' root ... how about 'less easy', it's not as scary
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Even better call it the Original Root Method........
pman555 said:
Another quick question: I downloaded all of the necessary files.
When I try to open up the RUU_Mecha zip file, it tells me that the file is invalid or corrupted.
I've downloaded it twice from different sources and this happened both times.
Any idea why this is the case?
Can anyone point me to where I can get a non-corrupt version?
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you don't open the files. The exploit one is the one you unpackage to your tools directory. The other you will put on your sdcard when told too. you can join #root and get help if you want.
as far as apps, the market 'should' reload all your apps when you wipe data just give it time. Then use titanium to back them all up.
So ADB is basically finding the root copy and paste and run ? .
Capt.D said:
Even better call it the Original Root Method........
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I like that one
jawonder said:
So ADB is basically finding the root copy and paste and run ? .
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ADB is learning what you are doing to your phone instead of letting a program do it for you. Copy/paste is just so there are no typos if you don't feel as comfortable typing it all out. I recommend reading up on ADB so that you have a bit of knowledge of what you are doing.
do i need to use the titanium backup before i try and root or after i'm rooted
Irish Whiskey said:
do i need to use the titanium backup before i try and root or after i'm rooted
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Titanium backup only works after you're rooted.
You can use a program like Mybackup Pro to backup stuff like sms mms, etc.
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As a first time rooter myself, I ended up doing the original root process. The well written instructions helped me not to feel paranoid and I breezed through the steps. While, I was confident in rooting the phone because of the instructions, I don't feel so confident post root because I don't know how to do many of the elements like flash roms, kernels, apply mods, etc. So my question is, are there any guides for flashing new roms and the steps taken before and after? For instance, let's say I wanted to flash adrynalyne's no bloat rom, and his mod package, how do I go about doing it? Thanks for taking the time to read this.
Zalyia38 said:
Most OTA updates will remove your root, so I wouldn't suggest applying them. Many ROMs will block the OTA updates, but not all of them do; at least in my experience.
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If I root and remove bloatware manually, will OTA updates occur automatically, or do I have the option of blocking them. Would they re-install all of the bloatware I removed?
SOLUTION FOUND, ALL PROBLEMS SOLVED
Hi, I recently installed Android 4.0.4 to my Galaxy S2. The reason I am asking these questions is because all/most of the documentation written for them seems to be written for a Galaxy S2 with 4.0.3 or below.
Basically, the latest update was bad, made the system look ugly, makes phone signal drop, battery drain, some texts drop, and Silent mode seems to be no different from vibrate mode in that it still vibrates. What I want to do is root my Galaxy S2, backup all of the apps, SMS, MMS, Call logs and their data (So that when I restore the phone, I don't have to start games like Asphalt 6 and Cut The Rope over again) and then install CM9 + Google Apps and restore the apps and their data. Is there an easy way of doing this that's suitable for a first time rooter and flasher?
Thanks so much for any help, Jack
Running an unbranded, sim free Galaxy S2 bought from Amazon.
On giffgaff network.
In the UK, so I'm not using LTE or anything like that
Root using method 1 from guide in my signature. Then backup all with Titanium Backup.
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Stileth said:
Root using method 1 from guide in my signature. Then backup all with Titanium Backup.
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Ok, I read through it and it seems like it's not too complicated, but when it says "Internal SD Card" does that mean my MicroSD card or something different?
Thanks, Jack
Edit: Also, where do I download the files that it mentions?
No, internal SD card is your internal storage. Your microSD is external as you can take it out
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Stileth said:
No, internal SD card is your internal storage. Your microSD is external as you can take it out
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Ok, thanks
Also, because the forum wouldn't me add the edit in time, where do I download the files that the guide mentions.
Sorry for asking all these (possibly stupid) questions, I'm just nervous
As for backing up apps and games etc....titanium backup. I was advised to use the pro version, will never turn my back on it. As for the rom and root it depends what kernel wnd rom you want to use. My signature has links to a reliable kernel and rom thats based on CM, AOKP and a few others rolled into one, magic config link is also usefull to maximize battery life
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Ok, also, is anything likely to go wrong during the rooting process? I'm trying to backup via Kies before doing anything, and Kies keeps failing and telling me to reconnect. I've tried restarting the PC and phone, and it keeps doing it, some I'm wondering whether I should bother backing up with Kies at all.
Thanks, Jack
jackfifield said:
Ok, I read through it and it seems like it's not too complicated, but when it says "Internal SD Card" does that mean my MicroSD card or something different?
Thanks, Jack
Edit: Also, where do I download the files that it mentions?
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it's your internal storage (Phone), not the microSD card...
jackfifield said:
Ok, also, is anything likely to go wrong during the rooting process? I'm trying to backup via Kies before doing anything, and Kies keeps failing and telling me to reconnect. I've tried restarting the PC and phone, and it keeps doing it, some I'm wondering whether I should bother backing up with Kies at all.
Thanks, Jack
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Only thing that will happen when rooting (providing you use a kernel that is trusted, some have emmc cap erase bug, messes things up, luckily i aint had that before) your get a yellow triangle when booting your phone, this can be removed using triangle away app which resets your binary to say it hasnt been tampered with. Aslong as you follow instructions fully, you should be fine as for kies, odin hates it, disable kies or uninstall it from your pc. Backups are always better with titanium, your probably find that your apps are backed up to google but may need to restart games etc where as titanium saves everything so you start from where you left things
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tigerphil said:
Only thing that will happen when rooting (providing you use a kernel that is trusted, some have emmc cap erase bug, messes things up, luckily i aint had that before) your get a yellow triangle when booting your phone, this can be removed using triangle away app which resets your binary to say it hasnt been tampered with. Aslong as you follow instructions fully, you should be fine as for kies, odin hates it, disable kies or uninstall it from your pc. Backups are always better with titanium, your probably find that your apps are backed up to google but may need to restart games etc where as titanium saves everything so you start from where you left things
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Ok, so I decided that I'm going to use Method 1 in Stileth's signature ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794 ) would this apply for that? How dangerous is that method. Also, I can't backup with Titanium before rooting, which was my main concern, as I wanted a backup in case anything went wrong whilst rooting.
Thanks, Jack
jackfifield said:
Ok, so I decided that I'm going to use Method 1 in Stileth's signature ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794 ) would this apply for that? How dangerous is that method. Also, I can't backup with Titanium before rooting, which was my main concern, as I wanted a backup in case anything went wrong whilst rooting.
Thanks, Jack
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Personally i used this link the 1st time i rooted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399&highlight=litening+rom i cant see any problems with the link you sent though so shud be fine, seeing as you cant do a backup at the moment, i think your going to end up needing to restart all your games etc after rooting and installing a custom rom (if your doing that aswell) i would strongly advise to make a nandroid backup before you do anything though, most links will advise you to do that aswell. atleast if anything does go wrong you can reflash your phone back to its original state.
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Personally i used this link the 1st time i rooted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399&highlight=litening+rom i cant see any problems with the link you sent though so shud be fine, seeing as you cant do a backup at the moment, i think your going to end up needing to restart all your games etc after rooting and installing a custom rom (if your doing that aswell) i would strongly advise to make a nandroid backup before you do anything though, most links will advise you to do that aswell. atleast if anything does go wrong you can reflash your phone back to its original state.
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But surely I can backup if I root first, then install Titanium, backup, then install CM9?
Or am I confusing myself?
jackfifield said:
But surely I can backup if I root first, then install Titanium, backup, then install CM9?
Or am I confusing myself?
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the nandroid backup is just a safety thing so if anything does go wrong during root, you can flash straight back. rooting wont disturb any of your settings or games etc so once rooted your be fine to use titanium for a full back up before using a custom rom
Ok, thanks
Also, I just realised the files I needed were at the bottom of the guide.
As I said, noob.
Thanks, Jack
jackfifield said:
Ok, thanks
Also, I just realised the files I needed were at the bottom of the guide.
As I said, noob.
Thanks, Jack
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haha we all started as noobs at 1 point, flashing gets easier all the time, aslong as you read posts fully and follow instuctions fully, you shouldn't run into any major problems, if you do there is always someone on here that will be able to help and 90% of the time the answer is already somewhere on the forum
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haha we all started as noobs at 1 point, flashing gets easier all the time, aslong as you read posts fully and follow instuctions fully, you shouldn't run into any major problems, if you do there is always someone on here that will be able to help and 90% of the time the answer is already somewhere on the forum
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Ok, quick question, what will Titanium do with the apps on my SD card. Do they need to be backed up, or are they safe since they're on the SD card? Or does Titanium back them up anyway?
jackfifield said:
Ok, quick question, what will Titanium do with the apps on my SD card. Do they need to be backed up, or are they safe since they're on the SD card? Or does Titanium back them up anyway?
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once you start using titanium it will back up everything, everywhere. you can change filters to only back up what you want, it will do automated backups if you set it all up (the pro version is definitely advised as you can also freeze or remove system apps to improve battery etc but do not rush into that as if you remove or freeze something then it could have effects on other parts of the phone but there are a few useful guides on that side of things) when cahnging roms though, do not back up anything written in red on titanium (those are system things, if you restore red items on new roms, it will interfere with the new system settings and cause force closes etc, again there are guides about for titanium aswell but it is easy to use
tigerphil said:
once you start using titanium it will back up everything, everywhere. you can change filters to only back up what you want, it will do automated backups if you set it all up (the pro version is definitely advised as you can also freeze or remove system apps to improve battery etc but do not rush into that as if you remove or freeze something then it could have effects on other parts of the phone but there are a few useful guides on that side of things) when cahnging roms though, do not back up anything written in red on titanium (those are system things, if you restore red items on new roms, it will interfere with the new system settings and cause force closes etc, again there are guides about for titanium aswell but it is easy to use
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Ok, whilst I will probably buy Titanium backup at a later date, is the paid version needed for what I'm doing right now. I say that because I literally do not have enough money in my bank account for it (I'm 14 )
jackfifield said:
Ok, whilst I will probably buy Titanium backup at a later date, is the paid version needed for what I'm doing right now. I say that because I literally do not have enough money in my bank account for it (I'm 14 )
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as far as i remember the free version will let you back things up and restore them, the pro version lets you do the freezes etc. it took me a while before i went to the pro version
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as far as i remember the free version will let you back things up and restore them, the pro version lets you do the freezes etc. it took me a while before i went to the pro version
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Ok, that's good
Also, in other news, I'm now should be rooted!
Anyway I can test it? I think I remember a root testing app, actually, so I'll try that
Woohoo!
Okay read the other post about this not using it should I say. What is the best and safest way to remove it ????
Help some of us novice noobs out...
PS. How about the other TWRP I use this on my HOX and it seems to work great without a hitch...
PS. I knew it was ROM that helped me brick my Nitro for sure now...
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Okay read the other post about this not using it should I say. What is the best and safest way to remove it ????
Help some of us novice noobs out...
PS. How about the other TWRP I use this on my HOX and it seems to work great without a hitch...
PS. I knew it was ROM that helped me brick my Nitro for sure now...
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You don't have to remove it just don't use it
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You don't have to remove it just don't use it
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Thanks I really do not want to F up this phone for sure... :good:
I thought ROM manager was an app? (Never used it) So if it is, couldn't you use TiBu to remove it? If it's not an app, I would still like to know if it's possible to get rid of, without switching ROMs of course.
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Okay read the other post about this not using it should I say. What is the best and safest way to remove it ????
Help some of us novice noobs out...
PS. How about the other TWRP I use this on my HOX and it seems to work great without a hitch...
PS. I knew it was ROM that helped me brick my Nitro for sure now...
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R you talking about ROM manager the app or the custom recovery (clockworkmod)because u mentioned twrp which is a custom recovery not an app.
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You can use Root Uninstall to remove Rom Manager. As far as CWM, thats a keeper
jthatch12 said:
You can use Root Uninstall to remove Rom Manager. As far as CWM, thats a keeper
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ROM and CWM are together on my phone it came when I installed CM9.. I have not really used it though just to put in recovery mode. I have installed anything via internal SD from the PC to phone ... As it seemed prior the phone was having an issue so have avoided it. I am thinking just leave it as said and just don't use.
My phone is running smooth and great even battery life over the last couple days has doubled. I was just curious actually if TiBu would be the way to remove it IF I should need to.
eisenbathb said:
R you talking about ROM manager the app or the custom recovery (clockworkmod)because u mentioned twrp which is a custom recovery not an app.
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CM9 came with ROM and CWM together in one app upon install. I was curious if I should remove through TIBU and then download Goo Manager from the market instead and install that... I just don't want to mess up my phone again as it runs great without a hitch.
lmarranzino said:
ROM and CWM are together on my phone it came when I installed CM9.. I have not really used it though just to put in recovery mode. I have installed anything via internal SD from the PC to phone ... As it seemed prior the phone was having an issue so have avoided it. I am thinking just leave it as said and just don't use.
My phone is running smooth and great even battery life over the last couple days has doubled. I was just curious actually if TiBu would be the way to remove it IF I should need to.
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Just delete it from /system/app or move it from /system/app to your sd card. This uninstalls it while keeping the apk should you want to use it again.
Simba501 said:
Just delete it from /system/app or move it from /system/app to your sd card. This uninstalls it while keeping the apk should you want to use it again.
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Just do this ^^^ and don't worry about anything.
The phone has absolutely no dependency on rom manager. Neither does your recovery. Cwm operation is independent from rom manager.
In CM9, ROM Manager cannot be uninstalled, but gives you an option to disable it. After that, it won't show up on the Apps Drawer again. That's what I did. If you did install any updates, you have to uninstall all updates and then the disable button will show up to be selected. HTH.
Wing2468 said:
In CM9, ROM Manager cannot be uninstalled, but gives you an option to disable it. After that, it won't show up on the Apps Drawer again. That's what I did. If you did install any updates, you have to uninstall all updates and then the disable button will show up to be selected. HTH.
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Interesting, the thing is people don't need to totally delete Rom Manager, they just should not use it to avoid major issues.
Wing2468 said:
In CM9, ROM Manager cannot be uninstalled, but gives you an option to disable it. After that, it won't show up on the Apps Drawer again. That's what I did. If you did install any updates, you have to uninstall all updates and then the disable button will show up to be selected. HTH.
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Thanks all.
Disabled and all is running well
Is it possible to root the Fascinate without deleting data, or at least a temporary root?
Chase716 said:
Is it possible to root the Fascinate without deleting data, or at least a temporary root?
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Absolutely. You'd have to search/dig through older posts, but the general idea is this:
> Get a recovery .zip file that will install Superuser and put it onto the SDCARD
> Flash a custom recovery (typically ClockworkMod) using ODIN
> Reboot into recovery and install the .zip file
Basically for the Fascinate, all you really need to do is get the proper version of the Superuser application and it's corresponding su binary installed. The Samsung ODIN tool allows you to replace the stock recovery with a custom one, and that custom recovery will allow you to install Superuser/root the device. This only modifies the SYSTEM volume and does not affect any of your data at all. It's obviously more complicated, but essentially behaves as if you could just root by installing something from the Google Play Store.
There should be a TON of resources/threads out here and on other sites with how to actually accomplish this and provide the necessary files for the Fascinate, but as long as you pick a process that generally has the steps listed above, your data *should* be 100% safe.
... so get Googling and root that thing! lol :victory:
djp952 said:
Absolutely. You'd have to search/dig through older posts, but the general idea is this:
> Get a recovery .zip file that will install Superuser and put it onto the SDCARD
> Flash a custom recovery (typically ClockworkMod) using ODIN
> Reboot into recovery and install the .zip file
Basically for the Fascinate, all you really need to do is get the proper version of the Superuser application and it's corresponding su binary installed. The Samsung ODIN tool allows you to replace the stock recovery with a custom one, and that custom recovery will allow you to install Superuser/root the device. This only modifies the SYSTEM volume and does not affect any of your data at all. It's obviously more complicated, but essentially behaves as if you could just root by installing something from the Google Play Store.
There should be a TON of resources/threads out here and on other sites with how to actually accomplish this and provide the necessary files for the Fascinate, but as long as you pick a process that generally has the steps listed above, your data *should* be 100% safe.
... so get Googling and root that thing! lol :victory:
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Well the only thing is, that I'm not supposed to root it, and I only want a temporary root to remove bloatware. Superoneclick's shell root didn't work, and neither did z4root.
Chase716 said:
Well the only thing is, that I'm not supposed to root it, and I only want a temporary root to remove bloatware. Superoneclick's shell root didn't work, and neither did z4root.
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Well if you get more interested I suggest you try a 4.2.2 ROM you won't be disappointed
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bbrad said:
Well if you get more interested I suggest you try a 4.2.2 ROM you won't be disappointed
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Well that does sound really nice, especially since i enjoyed CyanogenMod on my Incredible 2, but I can not flash any ROMs, I cannot completely root, and I cannot even flash a new recovery. And if I did flash a ROM, I think it would have to be manually activated since it does not have a SIM Card, leading him to find out I rooted. I just want a temp root to remove the bloatware I do not use.
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Well that does sound really nice, especially since i enjoyed CyanogenMod on my Incredible 2, but I can not flash any ROMs, I cannot completely root, and I cannot even flash a new recovery. And if I did flash a ROM, I think it would have to be manually activated since it does not have a SIM Card, leading him to find out I rooted. I just want a temp root to remove the bloatware I do not use.
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I don't think there are any temp-root solutions out there for the Gingerbread Fascinate, as the community was well beyond using exploits by that time Could be wrong, but I looked around and didn't really find anything. It might be worth looking around for a generic Linux 2.6.35-based exploit that somebody has compiled for the ARM processor.
Question ... what would prevent you from temporarily flashing a custom recovery to make the edits you want? If you don't change anything else, it would be overwritten with the stock recovery on the next boot, thus covering your tracks (and we can get the stock recovery back on there for ya if for some reason it doesn't). Many (most?) recoveries will allow ADB access when active, so you can mount system and do what you need to do without actually rooting the stock ROM.
Also, don't worry too much about the CDMA activation status, unless you check a certain box in the Samsung ODIN tool there is almost no way to screw that information up doing what you're looking to do. The CDMA keys are stored in a super double secret location that you ordinarily can't get to. The option is called "EFS Clear", don't go anywhere near it.
If you do find a solution that fits your needs, I also recommend you have a plan to restore the SYSTEM volume back to stock in case you make a mistake, like deleting a critical file. We can help with that as well if you are ultimately willing to use the ODIN tool. I just want to make sure you're prepared for that possibility as it sounds like if you temporarily break this device you'll be in big trouble
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If you do find a solution that fits your needs, I also recommend you have a plan to restore the SYSTEM volume back to stock in case you make a mistake, like deleting a critical file. We can help with that as well if you are ultimately willing to use the ODIN tool. I just want to make sure you're prepared for that possibility as it sounds like if you temporarily break this device you'll be in big trouble
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Yeah, but two more things: first, can someone give me a very detailed tutorial on ODIN for my device, and could someone also give me the files i may need in order to delete the bloatware, no flashing, no data wipes or anything like that? Because the bloatware is what I think slows my phone down. And what if something does not go right?
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You should be able to unroot via SuperOneClick after you've fully rooted and debloated the thing. Whoever's keeping an eye on that Fassy hopefully won't notice!
Chase716 said:
Yeah, but two more things: first, can someone give me a very detailed tutorial on ODIN for my device, and could someone also give me the files i may need in order to delete the bloatware, no flashing, no data wipes or anything like that? Because the bloatware is what I think slows my phone down. And what if something does not go right?
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Does the person you're hiding this from even know the difference between what GB and JB looks like? What's to say if you have an AOSP or CM-based JB rom that they'd even know it's not stock?
Anyway, if you buy Nova Launcher prime I know you can hide apps from your drawer, so if you wanted to say hide TiBu or Superuser you could do that and throw someone off if they're just taking a quick look at your app drawer. Nova doesn't work on GB though I think, so you might have to look for a different launcher to do that if you want to stay on stock.
For a detailed guide on pretty much anything related to rooting/flashing just check droidstyle's guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
For freezing or removing bloat I highly recommend buying Titanium Backup, but there are some free apps that will do that sorta stuff. Titanium will give you way more options down the road though...
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Anyway, if you buy Nova Launcher prime I know you can hide apps from your drawer, so if you wanted to say hide TiBu or Superuser you could do that and throw someone off if they're just taking a quick look at your app drawer. Nova doesn't work on GB though I think, so you might have to look for a different launcher to do that if you want to stay on stock.
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I believe he does, since when I rooted my Incredible 2 he noticed it was completely different and not HTC Sense skinned, and I'd explained to him the Android operating system. And I use ADW EX as my default launcher, only because I can't use the TwLauncher due to lag issues. So I've hidden my bloat apps, but things still stay open in the background.
This might be a long shot, but have you ever tried to explain to him that rooting is actually more secure than having an unrooted phone? Try to get him to understand that with a rooted device you can actually make FULL backups of your device in case anything goes wrong, unlike the half-assed backups that non-rooted devices have to use. Also, rooted devices allow you to install the latest (secure) versions of android unlike non-rooted which force you to wait for updates that may never come.
Anyway, if that fails, I would recommend to root and freeze/remove with Titanium
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This might be a long shot, but have you ever tried to explain to him that rooting is actually more secure than having an unrooted phone? Try to get him to understand that with a rooted device you can actually make FULL backups of your device in case anything goes wrong, unlike the half-assed backups that non-rooted devices have to use. Also, rooted devices allow you to install the latest (secure) versions of android unlike non-rooted which force you to wait for updates that may never come.
Anyway, if that fails, I would recommend to root and freeze/remove with Titanium
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I wish. He won't listen, and he'll just say that it's bad, I don't need to root my phone,and that I'll break it, like my old one ( NOT MY FAULT!). That is why I wanted to do it secretly, temporarily, or something like that. I know it's good, and that there are risks. So is there any way I can root (no flashing) and keep it hidden? Also, I went into the bootloader, and saw an option that said update.zip. Would that be useful, to maybe flash the EH09 Fascinate rom?
UPDATE: Thanks for the help everyone, but I'm most likely going to ditch the Fascinate for a Galaxy SIII. So maybe sometime I'll find the time to experiment with ROMS on my Fascinate sometime.
Hi!
I've been wanting to root my Canvas HD for the past month but did get success with sp tool..So I'm gonna try the Motochopper method which has reportedly high success rate... but because that tut was not very detailed, I have some doubts.
•I wanna know if I follow this method will I lose any data, app data, game progress, contacts etc etc.? And if there is a chance of that is there a way to backup these things? Apps like titanium and nandroid require root access which I don't have.
• When trying out the sp tool method some people reported that they lost their IMEI no. after rooting which is clearly a very serious issue and I don't wanna end up like that so does this method poses the same threat? if it does, is there a way so that I can take a backup of my IMEI no.??
•Do I need to take out my memory card/ battery?
Note: I am a noob in android rooting and stuff so please don't be harsh. I am currently in middle of the process
Thank you any help is much appreciated :fingers-crossed:
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Hi!
I've been wanting to root my Canvas HD for the past month but did get success with sp tool..So I'm gonna try the Motochopper method which has reportedly high success rate... but because that tut was not very detailed, I have some doubts.
•I wanna know if I follow this method will I lose any data, app data, game progress, contacts etc etc.? And if there is a chance of that is there a way to backup these things? Apps like titanium and nandroid require root access which I don't have.
• When trying out the sp tool method some people reported that they lost their IMEI no. after rooting which is clearly a very serious issue and I don't wanna end up like that so does this method poses the same threat? if it does, is there a way so that I can take a backup of my IMEI no.??
•Do I need to take out my memory card/ battery?
Note: I am a noob in android rooting and stuff so please don't be harsh. I am currently in middle of the process
Thank you any help is much appreciated :fingers-crossed:
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You won't lose any data or IMEI and there is no need to take the battery out. it's not like flashing an entirely new firmware. i assure you it's very very safe.
salaigeethan666 said:
You won't lose any data or IMEI and there is no need to take the battery out. it's not like flashing an entirely new firmware. i assure you it's very very safe.
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Thank you very much bro! Let me root this biatch right now.:good:
I just success bro!! I'm a little nervous though.. there was an app called supersu after the root.. I have a very little knowledge about it.. regardless when I opened it asked me to update binary su should I allow that? Ik it could be very stupid question but still...
vermajai93 said:
I just success bro!! I'm a little nervous though.. there was an app called supersu after the root.. I have a very little knowledge about it.. regardless when I opened it asked me to update binary su should I allow that? Ik it could be very stupid question but still...
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YES DUDE OPEN SUPERsu ... yes allow it to update binary su.. actually supersu is an app which grants all other root apps to access the root files ... it is the app in a crude language the main head to control root access ok !!! or in other words in 99% cases it proves that device has been succesfully rooted !!!!!!!!
hitting thnaks would not take much time...please hit thanks if i helped !!!!!!! posting something on xda is very difficult !!
abhiab002 said:
YES DUDE OPEN SUPERsu ... yes allow it to update binary su.. actually supersu is an app which grants all other root apps to access the root files ... it is the app in a crude language the main head to control root access ok !!! or in other words in 99% cases it proves that device has been succesfully rooted !!!!!!!!
hitting thnaks would not take much time...please hit thanks if i helped !!!!!!! posting something on xda is very difficult !!
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Thanks bud.. actually I was very nervous yesterday
Couldn't believe I succeeded
BTW how do I uninstall all the bloat wares? Saw a video on YouTube it said I just have to move the bloat wares to external SD via esexplorer..
the BEST way to root ua fone
vermajai
this is the easir=esy way to root ur fone..
download farmaroot application from the play store
install it
on opening u will see a dropdown menu to install supersu aftr selecting that just tap "boromir"
reboot ua fone and us rooted
now if u want to unroot ua fone same steps and tap on "unroot" and den tap boromir
reboot ua fone and ua unrooted
the best safest and simplest way to root/unroot ua cHD
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vermajai
this is the easir=esy way to root ur fone..
download farmaroot application from the play store
install it
on opening u will see a dropdown menu to install supersu aftr selecting that just tap "boromir"
reboot ua fone and us rooted
now if u want to unroot ua fone same steps and tap on "unroot" and den tap boromir
reboot ua fone and ua unrooted
the best safest and simplest way to root/unroot ua cHD
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Thanks for the info Mac.. but I have already rooted my fone.. now for the best way to uninstall the bloat wares..
vermajai93 said:
Thanks for the info Mac.. but I have already rooted my fone.. now for the best way to uninstall the bloat wares..
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Hi Vemajai,
Removing Boaltware is a kind of hit and miss.
The way i do is
1) Open ES file explorer
2) Click on Root Explorer
3) Mount Write Permissions
4) go to /system/app
5) Cut the Apps that I dont need and paste them into any folder on external card.
6) Go to CWM recovery, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, and fix permissions.
Choosing the apps to remove/delete is important, you can search internet to which apps are safe to remove, but it will be device specific.
There are few scripts available on the xda that do this job automatically, but we dont have one for our A116 (correct me if i am wrong).
If you remove a wrong apk accidentally, you can end up with FC's(Force Closes) and few functions or apps may not work.
So its better to have a Nandriod Backup (can be taken using Recovery like CWM or TWRP) so that if some thing goes wrong we can go back to working state.
-- I am not responsible if some thing goes wrong with your device, do the above at your own risk.