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Unfortunately I'm moving away from the Photon, so will be discontinuing the guides. I'll poke my head in once and awhile and update any pertinent info. Time to pass on the torch...someone should begin another and request it stickied.
I enjoyed the MoPho...but one month after release it's way too quiet in here for me. I crave flashing goodness...and hear only crickets. I will be picking up the SGSII when it hits, and look forward to seeing some of you over there!
Thanks to Yay, Edgan, Kenneth, DCour, Baller, Mikey and others that have taken a stab at this great phone!
Good luck on your next phone. For me I am pretty pleased with how well this phone works stock. The two things I wanted in particular (root and webtop) were achieved amazingly quickly. While I look forward to a sexy fast custom rom with all the bells and whistles (and rock solid stability). I can wait for that, I am more then satisfied that the Photon has lived up to the hype. It's the first time a smart phone has done that for me.
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Bandage said:
Unfortunately I'm moving away from the Photon, so will be discontinuing the guides. I'll poke my head in once and awhile and update any pertinent info. Time to pass on the torch...someone should begin another and request it stickied.
I enjoyed the MoPho...but one month after release it's way too quiet in here for me. I crave flashing goodness...and hear only crickets. I will be picking up the SGSII when it hits, and look forward to seeing some of you over there!
Thanks to Yay, Edgan, Kenneth, DCour, Baller, Mikey and others that have taken a stab at this great phone!
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Damn man sucks to see you go. You will be missed. You still in your 30 days? How you going to get the SGSII, just pay full price? Anyways, hope all is well with that phone and I know they will have some great guides over there ;-) Good luck!
-DJ
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Damn man sucks to see you go. You will be missed. You still in your 30 days? How you going to get the SGSII, just pay full price? Anyways, hope all is well with that phone and I know they will have some great guides over there ;-) Good luck!
-DJ
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Yeah today was last day of 30 days...so I cancelled the line, started a new one with a Nexus S on it, and will swap for the SGSII when it comes along (rumor is 9/9/2011).
Thanks for the kind words DJ!!
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Yeah today was last day of 30 days...so I cancelled the line, started a new one with a Nexus S on it, and will swap for the SGSII when it comes along (rumor is 9/9/2011).
Thanks for the kind words DJ!!
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You know that you are allowed to switch it out 3 times which resets your 30 days every time right? guess its too late now but yes you are allowed to do that. That's what I did. they just swap you out a new photon and reset your 30 days. lol I loved it. Does help to have a good guy at sprint to deal with also
But like I said bud, good luck and you are very welcome.
I may do the same thing. I have my girl and her mom on my account I may just give my girl the Photon and use her mom's upgrade on the SGSII. Will see how it goes first though. Really like the Photon, it has a **** ton of potential! Really too bad Motorola can't get their head out of their ass and realize that's what keeps a majority of us around.
Take care o/
-DJ
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This is rather disappointing. It's only quiet in here because the phone is still so young, bootloader was only recently unlocked. As soon as all the hardcore HTC fans start to realize this phone blows both Evo's out of the water, this place will be booming. Even if not, we have some very talented developers making feature rich stable roms. I was a flashaholic as well, but especially on phones such as the Evo well over half of the roms are just plain rubbish and aren't worth flashing. I'd hate to see that happen to the Photon and then deal with all of the people complaining that the phone doesn't work when they just loaded up half-functional software ripped from quality roms by a 12 year old.
Either way, hopefully you'll come back to this phone when we learn what major flaw the latest/greatest Samsung has. I gave up on them after all of their Android devices had major recurring defects, ones that I still see today in my tech centers. Moment/Intercept/Transform had way too little internal memory and the processor wore out quickly. Epic/Captivate/Vibrant all had borked GPS and suffered from random locking up/reboots. Nexus S 4G has terrible signal quality and terrible battery life. Replenish has been their worst yet, charging port shorts out causing it to say it's charging when it isn't and has gotten so hot that I've actually seen them brought in with melted LCD panels and it burnt the customer upon picking it up. I don't know how Samsung has avoided a lawsuit on that one. As for myself, I will not be picking up another Samsung device regardless of how amazing the specs look on paper. They can't seem to get their products fully functional.
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I agree completely. I was just looking at the SGS2 reviews and whatnot for the last hour or so. I honestly think the photon already has beat it. I remember my first Samsung phone from ATT, I forget what it was even called actually. I'm sure I could look it up but it was like almost a smartphone. I mean it was, but there was no market or anything and it was just what it was.
I will be staying here unless there is just no action moving forward. But I don't see that happening because like you said this is a great phone and we have only begun to unlock the powers it has, I cannot wait to see numbers when we have a proper kernel source and a proper kernel made for us. Stock my phone has hit over 2500 in Quadrant and I know other people have gotten higher. In Linpack it is hitting higher than some of the highest numbers ever recorded for linpack. So I really can't wait to see what this thing has when it is fully unleashed! It still is just the beginning.
-DJ
the sgs2 will be an amazing phone. shame i didnt catch ya in time >.> i have a nexus and trying to get a photon
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the sgs2 will be an amazing phone. shame i didnt catch ya in time >.> i have a nexus and trying to get a photon
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Amazing maybe, better than the Photon I would have to disagree there.
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Bandage said:
Unfortunately I'm moving away from the Photon, so will be discontinuing the guides. I'll poke my head in once and awhile and update any pertinent info. Time to pass on the torch...someone should begin another and request it stickied.
I enjoyed the MoPho...but one month after release it's way too quiet in here for me. I crave flashing goodness...and hear only crickets. I will be picking up the SGSII when it hits, and look forward to seeing some of you over there!
Thanks to Yay, Edgan, Kenneth, DCour, Baller, Mikey and others that have taken a stab at this great phone!
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Thanks for your contribution to the Photon. Enjoy whatever device you end up with.
SOOO over the last few weeks I had a few issues with my TBolt, called verizon and got it RMA'd. New phone was working fine until I realized the headphone jack wasnt working. Called them up today and in a NICE tone said,
"I have been having a lot of issues with this phone - and its not so much swapping the phone thats an inconvenience, but migrating all my data, etc. Is their any way I can get a different phone?" She said, "that sounds reasonable - let me check." (hold music)
"Yes sir, we can offer you the Bionic free of charge"
I said "Thats really nice of you - but I am very partial to the HTC phones and their interface, I had an incredible, now a tbolt and would like another HTC phone."
She said - "What phone would you like"
I said "how about the Rezound?"
She hesitated and told me it was too new, and I said - well I would like an HTC phone thats AS good if not better. (more hold music)
She said, "Ok we can do the rezound"
She overnighted me the phone, and i should have it tomorrow.
w0000000t!
why does everyone else get lucky but me
Haha that's awesome. Sprint would neeeeevvveeerrr do that LOL. Welcome man. It's definately a badass phone. Yur gonna luv it
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SOOO over the last few weeks I had a few issues with my TBolt, called verizon and got it RMA'd. New phone was working fine until I realized the headphone jack wasnt working. Called them up today and in a NICE tone said,
"I have been having a lot of issues with this phone - and its not so much swapping the phone thats an inconvenience, but migrating all my data, etc. Is their any way I can get a different phone?" She said, "that sounds reasonable - let me check." (hold music)
"Yes sir, we can offer you the Bionic free of charge"
I said "Thats really nice of you - but I am very partial to the HTC phones and their interface, I had an incredible, now a tbolt and would like another HTC phone."
She said - "What phone would you like"
I said "how about the Rezound?"
She hesitated and told me it was too new, and I said - well I would like an HTC phone thats AS good if not better. (more hold music)
She said, "Ok we can do the rezound"
She overnighted me the phone, and i should have it tomorrow.
w0000000t!
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And that is why verizon is the most expensive carrier in the USA
con247 said:
And that is why verizon is the most expensive carrier in the USA
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I spend almost 600 a month with verizon (phones for my business, FiOS, etc). I am confident that this is NOT why verizon is the most expensive carrier in the US. Verizon has MASSSIVE infrastructure to support (4G, Fiber, etc) that is why its expensive.
Not to mention Union workers -_-
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I spend almost 600 a month with verizon (phones for my business, FiOS, etc). I am confident that this is NOT why verizon is the most expensive carrier in the US. Verizon has MASSSIVE infrastructure to support (4G, Fiber, etc) that is why its expensive.
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For that much a month I'd hope they would hook you up. VZW has been kind to me this year for sure as well.
HA ha ha!
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SOOO over the last few weeks I had a few issues with my TBolt, called verizon and got it RMA'd. New phone was working fine until I realized the headphone jack wasnt working. Called them up today and in a NICE tone said,
"I have been having a lot of issues with this phone - and its not so much swapping the phone thats an inconvenience, but migrating all my data, etc. Is their any way I can get a different phone?" She said, "that sounds reasonable - let me check." (hold music)
"Yes sir, we can offer you the Bionic free of charge"
I said "Thats really nice of you - but I am very partial to the HTC phones and their interface, I had an incredible, now a tbolt and would like another HTC phone."
She said - "What phone would you like"
I said "how about the Rezound?"
She hesitated and told me it was too new, and I said - well I would like an HTC phone thats AS good if not better. (more hold music)
She said, "Ok we can do the rezound"
She overnighted me the phone, and i should have it tomorrow.
w0000000t!
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Damn and I felt good when I got it for $149 when I broke one of my out of warranty Incredibles the day before Rezound launch. And that was in a store.
They wouldn't even swap my Bionic with a Razr or Rezound. That's a shame. My thunderbolt has been a champ compared to the piece of crap bionic.
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Haha that's awesome. Sprint would neeeeevvveeerrr do that LOL. Welcome man. It's definately a badass phone. Yur gonna luv it
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Wrong. Called one day back then to tell them how my Epic 4g was just acting up.
Gave me offers of free 3d, nexus s, evo shift. I chose nexus at the time. Though i prob would gotten the 3d and never came to verizon. Dont regret the switch.
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They wouldn't even swap my Bionic with a Razr or Rezound. That's a shame. My thunderbolt has been a champ compared to the piece of crap bionic.
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All I can say is try try again. Its all in the person you talk to. And the most important part is - take your time and be nice. Ask them how their day is, and wait for an answer. It sounds stupid, but do what every other customer dosnt do, and realize your talking to a person on the other end of the line.. While your waiting for them to look up your account info, ask them if they are having a busy day.. That sorta sh!t goes far.
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All I can say is try try again. Its all in the person you talk to. And the most important part is - take your time and be nice. Ask them how their day is, and wait for an answer. It sounds stupid, but do what every other customer dosnt do, and realize your talking to a person on the other end of the line.. While your waiting for them to look up your account info, ask them if they are having a busy day.. That sorta sh!t goes far.
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I cannot agree with this enough. Small Talk is the best way to build a relationship with the operator, and they will be willing to work with you the best they can
I'm living on a yellow submarine
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All I can say is try try again. Its all in the person you talk to. And the most important part is - take your time and be nice. Ask them how their day is, and wait for an answer. It sounds stupid, but do what every other customer dosnt do, and realize your talking to a person on the other end of the line.. While your waiting for them to look up your account info, ask them if they are having a busy day.. That sorta sh!t goes far.
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I absolutely always do this. Every time I speak to someone. Good advice though.
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I absolutely always do this. Every time I speak to someone. Good advice though.
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Yea, it just makes sense. If some guy is giving you static and making your day harder than it needs to be, how far would you go for that person - but flip the coin, nice customer thats in a jam, treats me with respect and dosnt take his stress out on me.....
AtLemacks said:
Not to mention Union workers -_-
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We are not union. Verizon is union, but not Verizon Wireless.
I had a Charge, got them to give me a Bionic as a replacement (Total Garbage), but my buddie loves the **** out of motoblur so sold it to him cheap and bought my rezound. Glad.
I was upgraded from a droid eris to a rezound itll be here Wednesday
Im always nice to them, and all but one rep said they felt bad for me and actually wanted to help me out, thats how I got a rezound after the mic on the eris broke, and thats not even the phone that came with my contract(citrus then sam. Cont)
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SOOO over the last few weeks I had a few issues with my TBolt, called verizon and got it RMA'd. New phone was working fine until I realized the headphone jack wasnt working. Called them up today and in a NICE tone said,
"I have been having a lot of issues with this phone - and its not so much swapping the phone thats an inconvenience, but migrating all my data, etc. Is their any way I can get a different phone?" She said, "that sounds reasonable - let me check." (hold music)
"Yes sir, we can offer you the Bionic free of charge"
I said "Thats really nice of you - but I am very partial to the HTC phones and their interface, I had an incredible, now a tbolt and would like another HTC phone."
She said - "What phone would you like"
I said "how about the Rezound?"
She hesitated and told me it was too new, and I said - well I would like an HTC phone thats AS good if not better. (more hold music)
She said, "Ok we can do the rezound"
She overnighted me the phone, and i should have it tomorrow.
w0000000t!
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this is actually a quiet fact. Ive had them do this 3 times. They key is to continue to have problems with whatever phone you have and have all those problems happen fairly close together (within 3-4 months) and then do exactly as he did.. be nice. Why be mean? people dont respond to meanness.. be nice BUT stern "yes.. thats nice.. BUT i like HTC phones.. BUT ... etc". You might have to go through 2 or 3 transfers but youll get it.
the last time I did it, the rep was being.. difficult. I sat there with him, brainstorming ways i could get a new phone. and i had an 'ahha' moment.
If I was a new customer, I could get the Dinc for 99 right?
yes
and my early termination fee is only 135?
yes
so I could cancel my plan and and the 99 + 135 is still less than if I had to by a new phone outright
hmm.. yes.
okay ill do that!
"can you hold?"..........I can get you that Dinc for the 99 upgrade price, and there is a 99$ main in rebate on that making the phone 0 once you main in that rebate"
2 days later, new phone
they will do this every time all the time. .day in and day out. you just need to know how to pillow talk them.
I know they have notes on our accounts and could look and see that you have done this like 4 times in the last 2 years.. but they wont and in the 12 years ive had verizon, i have NEVER had a rep know anything about what I did even as little as a few days before. Its always as If ive never called.
good luck!
and GRATS on your rezound!!!!!! Im so happy, this phone is awesome possum
just to put in my input...this just happened to me as well. free rezound coming up!
my thunderbolt was acting up again and it was my third time RMA'ing in the span of 5 months. they said the only equal phones were the charge, revolution, and even the bionic. so i said hm....how bout the rezound?
he said "let me check.....(hold music)....ok sure!"
my response: "free of charge?"
his: "free of charge"
*violent fist pumping and hip thrusting*
There is something wrong with me.
I returned my galaxy note due to the fact that it wasn't as snappy as an S2 and i missed the huge selection of roms... and while I'm happy with the S2 overall (again).. i have found that nearly a month of using the note has shifted my priorities.
I now find myself missing the big screen size more than I thought I would.
Here's my dilemma.
I kind of want the note back. But I've done 2 reverse upgrades already (i'm indecisive as ****)
I got this S2 from walmart because the ATT store here didn't have the original S2 (lte market)
Will walmart let me do a reverse upgrade do you think?
and then would ATT still let me upgrade again?
Would you go back to the note if you were me?
I'm stupid. Feel free to make fun of me.
Call walmart and ask. Then call ATT. There is nothing we can do here.
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jimmer411 said:
Call walmart and ask. Then call ATT. There is nothing we can do here.
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Was really hoping for some opinions.
We all had the lag when it came out, but I'm oh SAUROM, overclocked etc and the Note is SUPER smooth! Not kidding, we're talking butter here...
Literally, ZERO LAG!
There are some seriously slick themes being made, too. Couldn't be happier!
No idea if you will be able to finagle any more upgrades, but if not, you can borrow my S pen to stab yourself in the heart!
-You said we could make fun of you...
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slaydog said:
We all had the lag when it came out, but I'm oh SAUROM, overclocked etc and the Note is SUPER smooth! Not kidding, we're talking butter here...
Literally, ZERO LAG!
There are some seriously slick themes being made, too. Couldn't be happier!
No idea if you will be able to finagle any more upgrades, but if not, you can borrow my S pen to stab yourself in the heart!
-You said we could make fun of you...
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I have a rusty butter knife. I'm not worthy of the s-pen stab.
Could have told you that lol. Anyone who was considering going back to a S2 after having a Note is Crazy!
Is there a tiny tiny bit of lag once and a while, sure but nothing I'd give the phone up for. I'm on the stock ROM btw. People get to crazy with the "lag" theory. Mines fast as hell, I just clear the RAM once and a while no probs.
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Vcolassi said:
Could have told you that lol. Anyone who was considering going back to a S2 after having a Note is Crazy!
Is there a tiny tiny bit of lag once and a while, sure but nothing I'd give the phone up for. I'm on the stock ROM btw. People get to crazy with the "lag" theory. Mines fast as hell, I just clear the RAM once and a while no probs.
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Yeah, I'm realizing now that I would trade this smaller screen and zero lag for the bigger beautiful display and slight lag every once in a while.
The rom thing isn't as big to me as I thought it was.
I really hope I can reverse again.
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There is something wrong with me.
I returned my galaxy note due to the fact that it wasn't as snappy as an S2 and i missed the huge selection of roms... and while I'm happy with the S2 overall (again).. i have found that nearly a month of using the note has shifted my priorities.
I now find myself missing the big screen size more than I thought I would.
Here's my dilemma.
I kind of want the note back. But I've done 2 reverse upgrades already (i'm indecisive as ****)
I got this S2 from walmart because the ATT store here didn't have the original S2 (lte market)
Will walmart let me do a reverse upgrade do you think?
and then would ATT still let me upgrade again?
Would you go back to the note if you were me?
I'm stupid. Feel free to make fun of me.
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you can.
i'd say get it from best buy if you have one near you. i'm biased (i work there selling phones) but i think it has great value.
typically you get someone who is more knowledgable (it varies, not everyone is a phone nerd)
you have the option to get a really good protection plan (no deductible, unlimited claims, water damage coverage, loaner phone, etc.)
and the option to get the buy back which will give you guaranteed $$ back when you trade in your phone w/in 2 years based on retail (its $60 normally, but if you have the protection plan for at least 1mo you get it half off, for $30. minimum you would get back is around your upgrade @ 20% of the RETAIL value which is $799.99)
derrick_ said:
you can.
i'd say get it from best buy if you have one near you. i'm biased (i work there selling phones) but i think it has great value.
typically you get someone who is more knowledgable (it varies, not everyone is a phone nerd)
you have the option to get a really good protection plan (no deductible, unlimited claims, water damage coverage, loaner phone, etc.)
and the option to get the buy back which will give you guaranteed $$ back when you trade in your phone w/in 2 years based on retail (its $60 normally, but if you have the protection plan for at least 1mo you get it half off, for $30. minimum you would get back is around your upgrade @ 20% of the RETAIL value which is $799.99)
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Yeah, I did confirm through customer support that I can do it. I made sure they notated it on my account too.
I can't freaking wait. I want that big screen again. I'm gonna rub my genitals all over it.
giantenemybird said:
Yeah, I did confirm through customer support that I can do it. I made sure they notated it on my account too.
I can't freaking wait. I want that big screen again. I'm gonna rub my genitals all over it.
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That would really be freaky if youre a chick.
Kony 2012 is Propaganda.
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But then again honestly is there a girl that owns the note? I haven't met one (actually I've met no one with a note) but all the girls that see it are like wow that's too big... And im like don't worry. Im not just compensating, although my note would definitely entertain you longer.
Kony 2012 is Propaganda.
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But then again honestly is there a girl that owns the note? I haven't met one (actually I've met no one with a note) but all the girls that see it are like wow that's too big... And im like don't worry. Im not just compensating, although my note would definitely entertain you longer.
Kony 2012 is Propaganda.
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Yeah, my girl owns the note. Since hers is the name on the account, she got the upgrade/re-up price. I was 3,000 miles away when she got em, so she's had hers a week more than I've had mine.
I admit I turned her onto the Note... I just couldn't stop blabbering about it compared to our Streaks. But she found the Streak not too long after it showed up at Best Buy, and after I went and abused one in the store, I gave the OK to go with the 5-inch candybar. We've had matching phones now for just over 2 years and she'll never be able to go to a smaller phone again.
It's a hoot at dinner parties when one of us takes out the phone (as it has been for a while) and someone, inevitably, comments; "My god, what is that? Is that a phone or a tablet?" Whichever of us had taken it out replies; "Yes, its both (Streak and Note... same difference for most people)" Then the person comes back with, "Wow, I've never seen anything like that before. That's almost too big, how can you use that? I doubt anyone could carry something that big. How do you carry it, does it even fit in your pocket?...." Then the other one of us will take out the other one. All conversation at the table stops. The inevitable iPhone comparison ensues.... 4 iPhones = (not really, but in screen real estate, close enough) 2 Notes. Pictures taken (if there are any phones left after the comparison laying of small useless phones on the big ones), jokes made... on both sides.... lol. "Wow that's so big" Me: "that's what she said" Her: "Why do you think I keep him around?" Them: "Are you compensating for something?" Me "What, both of us?" Them: "I'm not sure I could use something that size" Her: "Oh, I thought so too at first, but after a week or so I was used to it, and I could never have something smaller." Yeah, they are great icebreakers too... at anything from dinner parties to business meetings.
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There is something wrong with me.
I returned my galaxy note due to the fact that it wasn't as snappy as an S2 and i missed the huge selection of roms... and while I'm happy with the S2 overall (again).. i have found that nearly a month of using the note has shifted my priorities.
I now find myself missing the big screen size more than I thought I would.
Here's my dilemma.
I kind of want the note back. But I've done 2 reverse upgrades already (i'm indecisive as ****)
I got this S2 from walmart because the ATT store here didn't have the original S2 (lte market)
Will walmart let me do a reverse upgrade do you think?
and then would ATT still let me upgrade again?
Would you go back to the note if you were me?
I'm stupid. Feel free to make fun of me.
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Haha No but seriously for
1. Your upgrade can't be denied to you unless your bill is past due other than that your titled to it.
2. Go to Amazon they have a 30 DAY return policy and its 250 with free car charger and I believe target has it to.
3. Your just missing out
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my fiance is dying to get one
You need help.
LoL @ over2land's story.
It is a conversation starter though - I've pulled it out standing in the back of an elevator with three people, and the guy standing in front actually came and stood next to me. Three guys shoulder to shoulder on the back wall of the elevator was pretty awkward.
The only other time I've ever had anyone stop me to ask about my phone was when I had the first generation iPhone [when it was still around $400 and not ubiquitous].
In the past three weeks of having the Note, I've been asked about it more times than ever with the iPhone.
This is why some people shouldn't have choices. Apple makes it easy for you... one new phone a year. No choices, no second guessing. And I can see why some people are happier with Apple for this very reason. But if you are going to be an Android user, you need to grow up a bit, make an informed decision, and be happy with it.
Then come to XDA and push that device as far as it can possibly go
My gf has the white note and never looking back. Her best friend bought one after playing with hers, she dumped her 4S and loves the screen size as well.
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I kind of dumped my 4S too (its lying around in my house), but this gorgeous display is too tempting to let go!
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This is why some people shouldn't have choices. Apple makes it easy for you... one new phone a year. No choices, no second guessing. And I can see why some people are happier with Apple for this very reason. But if you are going to be an Android user, you need to grow up a bit, make an informed decision, and be happy with it.
Then come to XDA and push that device as far as it can possibly go
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+1
Sent from the TermiNOTEr! ;-)
Statutory Warning : This post is SUPER long! May cause delusions, dehydration, rage towards Motorola and/or VZW or depression! For those who can't withstand this post, skip to the end for a one line summary.
So it has been over 8, dreadful and painful months with the DX2. And to dull this pain, I had you guys to follow and read up on. Great devs and their ROMs, Pepperm1nt, Nitro, the_guy_who_made_liberty (Oops, I dunno the name of the guy), Ryman222 for his Molten (which incidentally was my first ROM) and then comes mastafunk, aceoyame and the one and only Dragonzkiller!!! He was THE guy who let me have hope over the last few months (of course, with respect to my phone! If he was the sole reason I'd have hope in my life over the last few months then something is SERIOUSLY wrong with me... ).
There are many others like Moonshadow, TransX2, TravisdroidX2, iBolski (who was the inspiration for my BBB Moto attack), gaad0701, antp121 , Sandso9, ashclepdia(OMG! How did I forget you!) ad infinitum! All of you guys helped me have fun around in these forums and gave me numerous thanks as well. I am very grateful to you and will definitely miss you when I leave. So I'll still pop in every now and then so that I don't completely miss you guys!
Anyway, coming to the actual news! I got a Droid Incredible 2, currently being shipped by VZW with a back plate and a battery as well! Swell! Here is how this happened.
Over the last 1-2 weeks, I got very active in pursuing my Moto and VZW complaints. So, many phone calls, emails and chats have been exchanged. But in short, nothing significant emerged. Then I heard people complaining to VZW and getting a call from an engineer and being offered a Gnex!!! Naturally, I was jealous, but also inspired and motivated to attack VZW to score a new phone.
I got a call from VZW in response to my online complaint. I seized this opportunity to get in touch with a Tech support rep and elaborated and bemoaned about my phone's countless issues. She was sympathetic and TRIED to check if I could possibly get a different phone. Unfortunately I couldn't. BUT she said something that intrigued me! She said that I did not hit the threshold that would make me eligible to getting a different phone. I was told that I needed to order ONE more DX2 replacement device before I can get a different phone. You see, I only ordered one replacement so far. So I hatched a plan.
I ordered a second replacement DX2 (making it the third DX2 I had, the first being the one I purchased and the second and third being the replacements). I ordered it yesterday and I received it today.
Then, I didn't waste anytime tinkering and checking this phone. Instead I activated it and immediately called VZW claiming that this phone had all the issues my previous 2 phones had as well. They lied to you (Moto and VZW) so why not you lie as well! I told them I was not happy and that I was sure that getting another DX2 as a replacement will not help either as it seems to be an issue with all Droid X2's. I added that I was told if I had issues with this phone too, then they may be able to offer me a different model. She looked into it and said, YES, they can offer me a different model!!! Huzzah! Success, finally!
I went through the process and was told that I can have either the HTC Dinc2, the Motorola Droid 3 or the older Samsung Fascinate. Samsung fascinate!? Bleh! No thank you! Droid 3!!!??? Are you ****ing serious!!!??? It is like from one hell to another!!! Not only does it have a locked Bootloader, but it is not even confirmed to get ICS as of now! Plus, I will not go for Droid 3, purely on moral and ethical grounds. I will NOT be doing business with a company that plainly doesn't give a **** about its customers, like Motorola!
On the other hand, HTC has unlocked the Bootloader for the Dinc2 AND it has added Dinc2 to its ICS upgrade list!!! . Plus as per XDA forums, Dinc2 has LOADS of ICS ROMs. Now that is my sort of company!
So sign me up for a HTC Droid Incredible 2 I said to the customer care rep. And she did.
To others wanting to ditch this phone and get a new one like me, the following are some tips and tricks.
1. Complain to VZW. CALL Tech Support: 866-221-4096.Tell them all the faults of your phone you can think of. Refer to this list if you need help : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24528918&postcount=12
2. Tell them that you checked online forums and it appears that ALL DX2's have this problem. So, request them to give you a different device.
3. Now, if you had one or less replacements so far, you MAY not receive a different device. Still, try your best to push for it by stating the systematic issues with it and claiming that ALL DX2's have it. No harm in trying. If not, do what I did and order a replacement DX2 first. It won't cost you anything and you can order another replacement the very next day once you receive this one.
4. After you crossed the threshold of 2 or more replacements, repeat Step 1 and 2. Clearly mention that you have talked to a customer rep previously and that they told you that if you are still facing problems with the device, and if you have had significant replacements (the magic number is 2) then you can be considered/will be eligible to get a different device. Even though this may not have happened, the fact is true and I can confirm it. So, no harm in claiming that you were told as such. Repeat that you are sure and 100% positive that the problem won't be solved by a replacement DX2 and that you really want a different device.
5. After the VZW rep agrees, which I believe he/she will and should, go through your replacement options, choose the device you like best and proceed with ordering it as a replacement. Thank your lucky stars you reached this step. Go to your favorite church/temple/mosque/other spiritual place and pray/donate/do social or community service if you got REAL lucky and got a Gnex or may be even a Razr (though it is Craparola's Razr!!!)
6. Once your device arrives at home, close your eyes and return Craparola's DX2.
7. Profit! Sit back, relax and enjoy your new phone and the new found freedom it provides you!!!
The end!
Once again, I am glad I made SO many friends in this community. I am grateful for the entertainment, fun and thanks you guys gave me! I will pop in regularly and check up if Moto did anything right OR if you guys got CM9/ICS via DZK, some other dev or Moto!!!
May you survive this ****storm and hopefully emerge victorious by making Moto do what you want or be bailed out, like me, via VZW!
Cheers!!!
TL;DR? Well read this: Pained by Motorola and its DX2, I got bailed by VZW. Got myself a HTC Droid Incredible 2, yippee and Woohoo!
If Cspire had better lineup of phones then I would take the same route as I love to hack and fiddle with my devices. But I can't so I'm stuck with it. The phone itself is honestly the best I've had. I'm just disappointed that I can't toy around with it much.
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it was a good run. gave me hope with all the work you did to try and get moto to fix this piece of ****. good luck in the VIVOW (sick codename btw) world. i would go for a dinc2 but my contracts up within the next month. thnks for the shoutout btw and you WILL be missed
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i though about it for ten minutes... so why not give it a shot what phone number did you call? basic customer support?
Wish you would have done this a month ago! Oh well I'm happy with what i got now lol
Sandso9 said:
Wish you would have done this a month ago! Oh well I'm happy with what i got now lol
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What do you have now?
antp121 said:
it was a good run. gave me hope with all the work you did to try and get moto to fix this piece of ****. good luck in the VIVOW (sick codename btw) world. i would go for a dinc2 but my contracts up within the next month. thnks for the shoutout btw and you WILL be missed
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i though about it for ten minutes... so why not give it a shot what phone number did you call? basic customer support?
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I guess it is a standard number.
I called Verizon Wireless Technical Support: 866-221-4096
UPDATE: My phone is being shipped! Overnight! But there is a god damn weekend in the middle, so I must wait till Monday!!! :/
Oh, CAN'T WAIT!!!
I picture MoonShadow-NM saying: "Patience, little grasshopper"!!!
By the way, all the time I was talking to the customer rep and then she said she can send me a different model device, my hand was shaking and I was giddy with excitement!!!
Enjoy and good for you. I have been currently watching swappa for another device. I agree with your post and you never know I will see what device I end up on next.
Yea I'm waiting on my BBB complaint right now. Its been only a couple days but I'm holding out hope that I can get something better. As it is now, I love this phone but all the problems make me want another kind. I have a year left on the contract and don't know when early upgrade is but I don't plan on buying another device outright.
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What do you have now?
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4s lol I'm pretty sure i told you this in the irc the other night didn't i?
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4s lol I'm pretty sure i told you this in the irc the other night didn't i?
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LOL!!!! XD XD !!
I keep forgetting!! D'oh! I had a funny feeling I asked you this already. Well now I know!!!
Well, Sandso9, I promise I will remember it this time!
Can't Wait till Monday! But I won't be home on Monday! Hope I can make FedEx leave it at a neighbor's location...
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LOL!!!! XD XD !!
I keep forgetting!! D'oh! I had a funny feeling I asked you this already. Well now I know!!!
Well, Sandso9, I promise I will remember it this time!
Can't Wait till Monday! But I won't be home on Monday! Hope I can make FedEx leave it at a neighbor's location...
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Good luck man your going to love that phone its so nice to escape the x2!
I was offered the Droid Incredible 2 as well, but sent it back. Rooting is complex, and S-Off? What is that? I read the sticky threads, and found out that you actually need to downgrade the phone to root it.
The phone is slow in comparison to the DX2, the stock launcher/homescreens are not customizable, no Bluetooth auto-answer, and I would not be able to tether it without paying another $30 for data that I am already grandfathered in for unlimited.
My phone was fine until I paired my Bluetooth headset, then all the issues started. I need a phone that can handle heavy Bluetooth usage and Bluetooth music listening.
I guess I will wait until August for my upgrade date.
y0himba said:
I was offered the Droid Incredible 2 as well, but sent it back. Rooting is complex, and S-Off? What is that? I read the sticky threads, and found out that you actually need to downgrade the phone to root it.
The phone is slow in comparison to the DX2, the stock launcher/homescreens are not customizable, no Bluetooth auto-answer, and I would not be able to tether it without paying another $30 for data that I am already grandfathered in for unlimited.
My phone was fine until I paired my Bluetooth headset, then all the issues started. I need a phone that can handle heavy Bluetooth usage and Bluetooth music listening.
I guess I will wait until August for my upgrade date.
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Yea If I'm only offered that I think I'll tell them to try harder, a lot harder. As if I'm going to take a device that has a smaller screen and was less money then what I bought my phone for.
YAY!
after much *****ing and crying to VZW, the lady offered me an early upgrade. not much to be excited for bc my contract was up june 18 but this weekend... the rezound is 50$. ordered and on its way! i told her all my problems with the phone, she asked her supervisor if i could get a different replacement. after she said no, (never had a replacement before) i asked if i could get an early upgrade. she said she had to ask her supervisor and 15 mins later she said i could! i then asked of i could have a free rezound she said no but i decided to spring because, well, I HATE THIS PHONE !! should be here by Tuesday if all goes well AND... i have off this week so a LOT of time to tinker. 50 bucks for one of the best vzw phones NOT made by CRAPorola? sign me up anyday. i guess this is goodbye dx2 family thanks to all the great devs we have (DZK, Ace, Nitro) the modders (motcher, MoonShadow, skwoodwiva) the themers (hedwig ) and the all around good people in this forum (Ash, Litetaker, BreatheALittle) ill pop back in every once in a while just to see if moto shapes up Good Luck in all your endeavors and hope you all are able to move past this phone
PS: Breathe i hope you do get the Rezound, that way we can fight, i mean share our passion for hockey some more lol
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after much *****ing and crying to VZW, the lady offered me an early upgrade. not much to be excited for bc my contract was up june 18 but this weekend... the rezound is 50$. ordered and on its way! i told her all my problems with the phone, she asked her supervisor if i could get a different replacement. after she said no, (never had a replacement before) i asked if i could get an early upgrade. she said she had to ask her supervisor and 15 mins later she said i could! i then asked of i could have a free rezound she said no but i decided to spring because, well, I HATE THIS PHONE !! should be here by Tuesday if all goes well AND... i have off this week so a LOT of time to tinker. 50 bucks for one of the best vzw phones NOT made by CRAPorola? sign me up anyday. i guess this is goodbye dx2 family thanks to all the great devs we have (DZK, Ace, Nitro) the modders (motcher, MoonShadow, skwoodwiva) the themers (hedwig ) and the all around good people in this forum (Ash, Litetaker, BreatheALittle) ill pop back in every once in a while just to see if moto shapes up Good Luck in all your endeavors and hope you all are able to move past this phone
PS: Breathe i hope you do get the Rezound, that way we can fight, i mean share our passion for hockey some more lol
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Good for you mate! I couldn't have gotten an early upgrade as my upgrade is April next year! Will thank you tomorrow as I ran out of thanks for today!
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Good for you mate! I couldn't have gotten an early upgrade as my upgrade is April next year! Will thank you tomorrow as I ran out of thanks for today!
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haha thanks man i guess ill see you around... i was planing on getting the dinc2 but she wouldnt give me one. so much for that l lol the rezound is a little thick for my liking but hey its got a hd screen, dual core, 4-****ing-G, gig o ram and to top it all off UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER!! WOOT.
litetaker said:
UPDATE: My phone is being shipped! Overnight! But there is a god damn weekend in the middle, so I must wait till Monday!!! :/
Oh, CAN'T WAIT!!!
I picture MoonShadow-NM saying: "Patience, little grasshopper"!!!
By the way, all the time I was talking to the customer rep and then she said she can send me a different model device, my hand was shaking and I was giddy with excitement!!!
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Dude I had the EXACT same feeling when the person I bought my nexus from told me they put it on eBay with buy it now at 350(I am doing a split payment on it, so he put the nexus on for 350buy it now and extended bat for 100 that I pay for next week) and after he told me I refreshed the page and it wasn't showing up at first I was like seriously if someone got it in that 15seconds since he notified me it was ready I would have flipped lol
But for the whole two hours I was conversing with the guy my adrenaline was flowing for sure lmfao
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y0himba said:
I was offered the Droid Incredible 2 as well, but sent it back. Rooting is complex, and S-Off? What is that? I read the sticky threads, and found out that you actually need to downgrade the phone to root it.
The phone is slow in comparison to the DX2, the stock launcher/homescreens are not customizable, no Bluetooth auto-answer, and I would not be able to tether it without paying another $30 for data that I am already grandfathered in for unlimited.
My phone was fine until I paired my Bluetooth headset, then all the issues started. I need a phone that can handle heavy Bluetooth usage and Bluetooth music listening.
I guess I will wait until August for my upgrade date.
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The downgrade to root and s-off is a one time deal
Once u have s-off u root easily any build u want usually
That's how it was with my buddies incredible
It was actually a LOT easier than I expected it to be lol
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litetaker said:
UPDATE: My phone is being shipped! Overnight! But there is a god damn weekend in the middle, so I must wait till Monday!!! :/
Oh, CAN'T WAIT!!!
I picture MoonShadow-NM saying: "Patience, little grasshopper"!!!
By the way, all the time I was talking to the customer rep and then she said she can send me a different model device, my hand was shaking and I was giddy with excitement!!!
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I will be doing this on Tuesday when my replacement comes. I think I was too nice to them when I yelled at them on Thursday.
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::This mystical tale starts off with tragedy as most do. There I was enjoying my time at an anime convention. I was attending a room party sipping some wonderful homemade wine. My wonderful shiny Galaxy S4 pumping out music into the small radio on the night stand, while attached to a charger, as that little thing drains power faster than the energizer bunny! I walk outside to the poolside patio to partake in a puff of hookah and alas when I return merely one minute later someone had snatched up my phone and charger (All people I trusted...not doing that again)! Needless to say I freaked getting on the next computer I saw to try to locate my phone using Avast Anti-Theft (Never using it again) apparently the web console said that it wasn't installed when it was. My poor phone still on with 20% battery ringing with every call I give. Lost. Gone. Unable to be located. (Google backup codes missing from my wallet...it was a bad night).
::Anyway enough rambling about missing phones. I decide to turn this tragedy into a win...The wonderful Note 3 is coming out I thought! I shall wait to acquire it, its only a week off! So there I was, yesterday, heading to the Verizon store in Paradise Valley, Arizona. As I walked in the doors something magical was going on inside....a release party for the Note 3! There were attractive women and men giving tours of the Note 3 + Gear and handing out free stuff. I was swiftly handed a bag and given my first item a Galaxy Note 3 branded thermal cup (The clear ones that you see everywhere). This kinda makes up for some stuff I thought to myself, this stuff is cool! I also proclaimed to the person in charge that I was here to purchase a Note 3. I went over to the rep area after getting other items from the people around the room including two 4GB branded thumb-dives, two headphone splitters, and two microfiber cleaning clothes and a phone holder for your desk. This is where things get amazing....apparently this store unknown to me was a new corporate flagship or something and the first 25 people got free Galaxy Gears....I was number 25! After I finished up getting the phone the woman comes over with a galaxy gear backpack and hands me it and the Gear inside.
I think that makes up for my S4 getting stolen....
:: TLDR: Got a free Galaxy Gear.
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::This mystical tale starts off with tragedy as most do. There I was enjoying my time at an anime convention. I was attending a room party sipping some wonderful homemade wine. My wonderful shiny Galaxy S4 pumping out music into the small radio on the night stand, while attached to a charger, as that little thing drains power faster than the energizer bunny! I walk outside to the poolside patio to partake in a puff of hookah and alas when I return merely one minute later someone had snatched up my phone and charger (All people I trusted...not doing that again)! Needless to say I freaked getting on the next computer I saw to try to locate my phone using Avast Anti-Theft (Never using it again) apparently the web console said that it wasn't installed when it was. My poor phone still on with 20% battery ringing with every call I give. Lost. Gone. Unable to be located. (Google backup codes missing from my wallet...it was a bad night).
::Anyway enough rambling about missing phones. I decide to turn this tragedy into a win...The wonderful Note 3 is coming out I thought! I shall wait to acquire it, its only a week off! So there I was, yesterday, heading to the Verizon store in Paradise Valley, Arizona. As I walked in the doors something magical was going on inside....a release party for the Note 3! There were attractive women and men giving tours of the Note 3 + Gear and handing out free stuff. I was swiftly handed a bag and given my first item a Galaxy Note 3 branded thermal cup (The clear ones that you see everywhere). This kinda makes up for some stuff I thought to myself, this stuff is cool! I also proclaimed to the person in charge that I was here to purchase a Note 3. I went over to the rep area after getting other items from the people around the room including two 4GB branded thumb-dives, two headphone splitters, and two microfiber cleaning clothes and a phone holder for your desk. This is where things get amazing....apparently this store unknown to me was a new corporate flagship or something and the first 25 people got free Galaxy Gears....I was number 25! After I finished up getting the phone the woman comes over with a galaxy gear backpack and hands me it and the Gear inside.
I think that makes up for my S4 getting stolen....
:: TLDR: Got a free Galaxy Gear.
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Awesome story!!:good:
Enjoy the GG, it's a fantastic device.
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Awesome story!!:good:
Enjoy the GG, it's a fantastic device.
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I look forward to doing just that on Monday! Gotta wait for the note 3 to get here. XD
Hey.. TLDR- is this Chris. P??
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Hey.. TLDR- is this Chris. P??
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Nope this is James K.
Great story; congrats. I lost my phone a few months ago and it was the worse feeling EVER. Glad things worked out great for you. Try Norton Security Antivirus. You can track your lost phone and do remote wipe. Pretty good.
bossei said:
Great story; congrats. I lost my phone a few months ago and it was the worse feeling EVER. Glad things worked out great for you. Try Norton Security Antivirus. You can track your lost phone and do remote wipe. Pretty good.
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Nah I'm just gonna get my backup codes printed properly and lamented and use Google's Android Device Manager. Nortons always left a bad taste in my mouth. Should check it out it looks spiffy.
What are these backup codes you guys are talking about?
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The negative to your positive
My story is so completely and entirely opposite of the OP story... it's the negative of his positive...
I was waiting for this phone for a long, long time.... coming off a two year old DROID Bionic that never had a single problem... perfect condition... never had a scratch... and I hated it... it was slow and sluggish and was never gonna see another update.
I was on in store preorder from day one and the waiting was painful... I was on the note 3 xda forum everyday like a stalker, listening to all the cool stories about the releases going on other networks and watching all the YouTube reviews and unboxings... then... finally... Our launch day came on Thursday and my FedEx tracking showed delivered at 10 am or so.... I went flying down there at 3:30 right after work and there were two customers and two workers in the store... walked around waiting for a salesman to get free and noticed... There was no display... no note 3 to play around with while I waited... then I heard "can I help you sir?"..... "yeah... I'm here to pick up my preorder note 3"... dude says... "oh cool... I wanna see that"
Long story short, he goes and grabs the box and comes out... starts pulling the cover off the box and I give him my speech about "don't do that... I just payed a lot of money for that and ain't nobody touching it but me".... He smiles and gives me the "know it all" look and we do the whole activation dance and whatever... During the process he tells me that was his one chance to play with the phone and I screwed it up...
TLDR: I was the Galaxy Note 3 launch event in Fort Pierce Florida
Very cool story OP. There was absolutely no fanfare around my experience. Was the only person in there for the phone and a nice guy helped me out. Took about an hour to get in and out the door. No party. No giveaways. Glad I got this phone though, and interested to talk to people who got the Gear. Not seeing a dedicated section for it. Seems to have so much potential, but I wonder if it will get very much attention at all.
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Nah I'm just gonna get my backup codes printed properly and lamented and use Google's Android Device Manager. Nortons always left a bad taste in my mouth. Should check it out it looks spiffy.
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Good idea. Android device manager works great