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Hey all,
TLDR; I'm budget consious. Do you recommend a $50 refurbed Note for upgrade now, or wait for a refurbed S3 or HOX upgrade?
I'm currently still on the i897 Captivate running CM10 nightlies. For the most part pretty happy with it (GPS is of course spotty), but I've been sitting on an upgrade waiting for something good (read: cheap) to come up on the Note or S3.
AT$T currently has a deal for $50 refurbed Note (+2 year renewed contract) apparently upgraded to ICS.
I'm wondering what thoughts you folks may have regarding this deal and/or how the Note is post-ICS upgrade. I'd almost certainly root and flash a custom ICS or JB ROM immediately, but I see there's been reports of issues especailly with GPS on the Note in ICS.
I also see the DEV support on the i717 is excellent and I recognize many names here from folks who moved on from the Cappy...so that's great, but I'm really hoping for a solid phone with no obvious flaws like we all know the Cappy had with the GPS woes.
Any thoughts or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
TIA
For $50.00
To get a like new note...I'd be all over that deal.
the note is great device, with a huge development base. and It's gonna be around for a while...(forever)....IMHO
I got my i717 recently and have been very pleased with it!
The screen is crisp clear bright and HUGE!
The devs are really good and really friendly!
If you are thinking about it I'd say go for it!
GPS is accurate within 4 meters for me!
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Go to a local AT&T store and play with the Note and decide then.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
NOTE user:
"take a deep breath, make sure to get a good look at it, relax and slowly take it in, the size is overwhelming at first but you will have a happy ending afterwards".
Woman:
Can't go wrong with the note. A refurb goes through quality checks that will ensure it's like new anyways, and you'll have a 90 day warranty where I assume you'll be able to keep exchanging for more refurbs until you get a good one if you get a lemon...which you probably won't get a lemon.
HOX is a good phone, but I'm impartial to Samsung due to their screens and how friendly they are to custom developing. The screen on the note or the gs3 are untouchable by any other phone on the market imho. Its pretty much impossible to hard brick this phone if you dont flash anything you shouldnt, ie from the international note...so long as you stay here you can recover from most anything you mess up. GPS is amazing because the note has both agps and glonass functionality...super fast, super accurate locks. If you can handle the size, get the note, hands down. Even if it seems a bit large, most people quickly grow accustomed to it and can't see themselves going back to a smaller screen.
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I agree with all the above posters - the note is a fantastic device and a steal at $50 (I wish I payed that for mine). I haven't had any gps issues on ice or jb. But i would definitely play with both the note and the S3 before making a decision.
Just out of curiosity, how much is a refurb S3 or HOX?
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Thank you all for the replies.
I am sorely tempted...went to the local AT$T store and determined it will fit in my pocket. That would have been a deal breaker!
To the previous poster, there are no S3 or HOX refurbs at AT$T yet. For a long time, the Note refurb was ~$200 on their website and suddenly dropped to this price quite recently which obviously is making way for the Note2's.
Agreed on Samsung. HOX was under consideration b/c ppl say the build quality is good and Costco had them new for $80 and no upgrade fee. However no external SD or battery access was a big turn off.
After my initial experience with the Captivate of having an essentially crippled phone on 2.1 I swore them off...until I got tired of waiting on Froyo and discovered all you fine folk at XDA. Obviously now I've come to appreciate the Cappy for it's amazing flexibility and unbrickableness unless you screw up bootloaders. Who knew I'd get all the way from 2.1 -> 4.1.1 on this thing???
God I loved, er, still love my Cappy. It's my dad's phone now but every time I'm back home from my college town I mess with it still. The Note shares that same unbrickability, so you'll be happy with that. What I would love to see is Cappy styling brought back with Note size...mmm.
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Pulled the trigger today. Even got AT$T to waive the $36 activation.
Now onto Root/CWM/Odin research prior to decision on which custom ROM to flash
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Thanks again all for the opinions.
$50 for refurb and nearly $100 per month for service is not a good deal. Buying the note outright and getting h2o or straight talk at 40-45 per month is better investment IMHO I did that buying the iPhone 4 for $65 refurb and I paid for nearly no data and nearly $85 per month with 200 text at the time.
Iph0ne27 said:
$50 for refurb and nearly $100 per month for service is not a good deal. Buying the note outright and getting h2o or straight talk at 40-45 per month is better investment IMHO I did that buying the iPhone 4 for $65 refurb and I paid for nearly no data and nearly $85 per month with 200 text at the time.
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Yeah, if it were just me on a individual plan I'd agree with you, but I'm on a family plan with 2 lines and we have a 24% corporate discount on the voice...so when we average out the per line cost it's about $55/line/month...Straight Talk is $45/line/month so I'd need to buy a phone outright for ~$240 (net $10 difference/month * 2 years) which might get me a used Galaxy S2 on Cowboom, or roll the dice on eBay for something a bit nicer (maybe).
Trust me I've done the math and unless I'm missing something, AT$T 2 year service plan is about best I can do now.
Congratulations on getting the note. You won't regret it. Do you have LTE where you are? If so, all the better reason to be with At&t.
I'm pretty sure the One X is now $99 on contract/upgrade.
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If I could get another one for $50 I would...it's an awesome phone, super fast on custom ROMs, epic screen...Go for it, you won't be disappointed.
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I can offer my take: it's the longest I've had a phone in a year? It's lasted almost a full month. (I don't own a computer, tablet or TV.) The Note does it all for me. It's a fantastic device, save for the ridiculous buttons at the bottom. Pretty easy to flash. And if you are like myself and thoroughly disgusted with the Note 2? Right now, it's the only choice.
Hello fellow noters
I recently out of decided to sell my galaxy note to get the nexus 4 ( to use on simple mobile) and to my dismay the g-note i717 has a really really low resale value. From what I have seen on ebay and craigslist the average cost for a i717 is around the low 300s, which for me is bad, Very bad. If you take into account the money that paypal and ebay take for the commission of the sale you are left with 250 something. This probably has to do with the release of the note2 only 6 months later than the original note.
I'm not complaining because this is still a great device but the loss of value took me by surprise, but I will definitely think twice before getting another Samsung device close to its release date.
In conclusion my friends I would advice you that if you want a Samsung device wait 4-6 months and buy it out of contract for 1/2 the price and if you are planning on reselling it later take a deep breath before looking for the resale values.
IMHO I see the Nexus 4 as a Downgrade from the Galaxy Note 1...
NO SD CARD.
Non-Removeable Battery
Max 16 Gigs of Storage.. Max..
Smaller Screen....
But.. Enjoy
All android phones lose there value fast because theres a new better one every week. The reason something like iphone hold there value so long is because there is only 1 a yr.
RaiderWill said:
IMHO I see the Nexus 4 as a Downgrade from the Galaxy Note 1...
NO SD CARD.
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Max 16 Gigs of Storage.. Max..
Smaller Screen....
But.. Enjoy
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I see it as a huge upgrade because
I don't need more than 16GB of storage because I don't put 50000 songs on my phone when I don't listen to them all anyways.
I don't really need to remove the battery ever, and it has better battery life than my note which is horribly awful.
It has android 4.2 official from the get go, and will get future android updates a week or so after announcement. Current note doesn't have official 4.1 yet, and 4.2 is out! And CM10 is still not stable. I'm so done waiting 6 months for an android update, especially with how awesome the changes have become.
Screen is a bit smaller yes, but it's higher PPI.
2GB of RAM is very necessary for anyone who is a power user. I constantly have to reload apps.
Quad core krait is awesome and should never lag. note1 lags often.
It doesn't have LTE which does actually suck but will be better for battery life and HSPA 42 in Canada is pretty good
And it's $350!
You could argue the Note2 is a better phone than the nexus4 and in many ways it is, but I still think getting android updates is more important for me. And the price is great.
I'll be selling my note1 for $300 next week. It's lower than I'd like but allows me to upgrade to the nexus4 for very cheap!
Sound Like They're Getting Your Money.
I"ll Keep My Note *1* And My $30.00 A Month T-Mo Plan And Jamie's ParanoidAndroid JellyBean Rom All Day Long Over A Phone That Won't Allow Me To Expand My Memory Forcing Me To "The Cloud" And Not Even Allowing Me Access To My Phone's Battery Making Me A *Slave* To A Charging Outlet...
Enjoy Your Nexus 4....
The main reason I'm switching is because even with the blaze radios my speeds are very very slow. I am going to miss the spen, and my 32 gb sd card but due to the lack of support from Sammy to their devices and the low resale value I refuse to spend 700$ on a note 2.
The reason for this post is to tell you guys to get prepared for the loss of value when you try to upgrade from the note.
chiwire2000 said:
The main reason I'm switching is because even with the blaze radios my speeds are very very slow. I am going to miss the spen, and my 32 gb sd card but due to the lack of support from Sammy to their devices and the low resale value I refuse to spend 700$ on a note 2.
The reason for this post is to tell you guys to get prepared for the loss of value when you try to upgrade from the note.
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I will only spend 100 for my new Note2
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I bought my og note when att was doing their $50 refurb note upgrade deal. Mines legit very rarely reboots even at 1836mhz . I'm gonna wait till something better is available for another deal like that. Then you don't have to trip on ever losing money.
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Thanks for the suggestions, but I don't like contracts much less with att. This is mostly for people like me that buy off contract and use pre paid that the depreciation of the phone affect us. IMO signing a contract with att or Verizon is like selling your soul for a discount on a device you end up paying triple by the end.
that sucks you should have waited and sold it on CL and would have received more money...You were in to much of a hurry to sell if that you lost money...Everyone else is getting 350 min for there device....And the nexus 4 sucks...YOUR complaining the note 1 has no value??? Good luck selling that Lg phone.. lmao...you'll get 100 dollars for that LG ...You make no sense...Note 2 crushes that toy!
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that sucks you should have waited and sold it on CL and would have received more money...You were in to much of a hurry to sell if that you lost money...Everyone else is getting 350 min for there device....And the nexus 4 sucks...YOUR complaining the note 1 has no value??? Good luck selling that Lg phone.. lmao...you'll get 100 dollars for that LG ...You make no sense...Note 2 crushes that toy!
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I haven't sold it yet and I'm not complaining, I love this thing. I don't really mind if the nexus loses value because it only costs 350$, but that is another topic.
the Note does have a low resale value if you take in to account that it used to cost around 700$ and now you have to negotiate with someone to barely get half of your investment. Samsung products do devaluate quite fast because they flood the market with their phones, release new version every 6 months and they give retailers the option to sell the phone at the price they want. I got an S3 four months ago for 615 and I went to the same store today and saw it for 500. There is nothing bad with that, if you use it to your advantage and wait a while to get a great product for 2/3 of the its first retail price.
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Thanks for the suggestions, but I don't like contracts much less with att. This is mostly for people like me that buy off contract and use pre paid that the depreciation of the phone affect us. IMO signing a contract with att or Verizon is like selling your soul for a discount on a device you end up paying triple by the end.
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How do you figure it is triple? I have been on At&t since 1994. Not going to change. Have 5 lines with them. Always had great service. It would make no.sense not to get it subsidized for me. Going to to pay same price for service whether off or on contract.
from a galaxy far far away....
The triple is for the overpaying the service (I used to pay 120 more or less monthly on att for the past 5 years now I pay 50 everything unlimited) and if att works for you awesome, but all of this talk about subsidizing strays from the fact that the note devaluates pretty fast.
I've never seen a phone hold value...Technology is constanly upgraded and replacing other models every month..Just the way it is..Computers are worth half as less in about 3 months as well...
Ello mate!
Honestly if you want to sell your note then that's perfectly fine. You don't need to justify your decision to sell to the people on this forum because what is it to them if you sell or keep? Lol I don't know why people get butt hurt over it when it has nothing to do with them. Will they be using the phone or is it for you? Also don't let people's opinions discourage you. The nexus 4 is awesome and I want to get one as well....note is great but i have decided it's just too big for me. I am a very active person and it is actually getting in the way rather than simplifying my life. Can't go running with it. Can't take it to the gym..nope! Can't walk around the gym with the note in my gym shorts lol. I don't want to shell out additional money for another mp3 player.
I agree with you on the resale value. I put mine up on Craigslist for 430 and got so many low ball offers it's ridiculous. I am just going to keep it now ... meh.
I am buying a Note II this week, but only because my corp plan lets me it it for $200. The Spousal Unit would never allow a $750 + tax phone purchase in this house.
If I get $300 for the Note I then I am happy, since it lets me purchase the next upgrade for next to nothing.
That said, I am thinking of holding on to the Note I until December when the official JB comes out. The Note I does lag on stock rom a bit (never tried the custom JB ones), and I want to be able to sell it to non-XDA folks with full S-pen support. I am thinking that the Note I stock experience will be much better in December, and that if I show it to a couple of people I know they will be happier with it then. If an offer comes by before then, I'll let it go at that time I suppose.
My brother just sold his Note for $300 to a guy in Sudbury. He was a bit disappointed as well.
I told him it's a niche phone with low demand in a small market.
#FirstWorldProblems
Mad383Max said:
How do you figure it is triple? I have been on At&t since 1994. Not going to change. Have 5 lines with them. Always had great service. It would make no.sense not to get it subsidized for me. Going to to pay same price for service whether off or on contract.
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The triple is for the overpaying the service (I used to pay 120 more or less monthly on att for the past 5 years now I pay 50 everything unlimited) and if att works for you awesome, but all of this talk about subsidizing strays from the fact that the note devaluates pretty fast.
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Read the important part in red which you missed. If you have ONE LINE, non-contract makes sense in some cases. If you have more than one, nope.
As for the OP's whinge, who cares, everything that isn't a "durable product" devalues fast, think about how many THOUSANDS your car devalues the second it's "used".
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that sucks you should have waited and sold it on CL and would have received more money...You were in to much of a hurry to sell if that you lost money...Everyone else is getting 350 min for there device....And the nexus 4 sucks...YOUR complaining the note 1 has no value??? Good luck selling that Lg phone.. lmao...you'll get 100 dollars for that LG ...You make no sense...Note 2 crushes that toy!
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100% true! the nexus 4 will be worth nothing as Google drops its price, and I sold one of my skyrockets for 350 on Craig's list so I'd sell my note 1 for $400 up, and I'm in Fl too. Its all about the condition of the phone. If your note is mint like mine you'll sell it for $400 cause people will rather pay $400 for perfect condition than $300 for some old scratched up junk. In 6 mo. Your $350 nexus will be worth $199 or less cause its used. How's that for devaluation.
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All android phones lose there value fast because theres a new better one every week. The reason something like iphone hold there value so long is because there is only 1 a yr.
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Well that and Apple sells all their hardware at a high margin keeping the prices high at retail.
Samsung isn't planning on releasing this phone on the big red until MAY30 WHICH is very close to June and isn't there going to be a couple phone in June around that same type with the new snapdragon 800 like that new moto phone coming out so I'm.curious wouldn't the new phone in June play the new gs4 obsolete ? Samsung gs4 release so late will make it its own demise ! why is Verizon releasing this phone so late i mean if there's a phone within the same month of the gs4 with twice the power then I won't consider the gs4 when I can wait just 2 weeks and buy somethin much more superior in hardware and stock android Samsung is about to lose a tons of money on Verizon if they wait all th way to may30 around the same month as sum very new phones with double the power .... Why didnt the gs4 release earlier ?? in may when moto announces there phone which will prob kill the gs4 in every way specs and software within 3week after the gs4 comes to store everyone will cancel there preorders and just wait and extra 3week to get the most powerful phone with a better screen n better snapdragon n prob more sensors and better battery and full stock android!
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gabrielpina4 said:
Samsung gs4 release so late will make it its own demise ! Why didnt the gs4 release earlier ??
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That doesn't make a lot of sense. People in the U.S. typically get new phones when they become eligible so there's a steady stream of people year round looking to buy new phones no matter when they are released. People buy what pleases them. The DNA tanked on VZW and there were no other phones released before it or after it that caused its failure. And it was powerful and had the world's first 1080P display. People are still buying SGS3's in large quantities and probably will after the SGS4's out because the price will be reduced. The SGS4 will be on the market as a "flagship" for 9-12 months and Samsung's planning on selling 10MM a month. HTC, Motorola, LG, and Sony all introduced phones that competed with the SGS3 and it certainly didn't affect Samsung's sales last year. So there's no reason to expect it to this year either. And the average consumer doesn't know (or care) what a Snapdragon, Exynos, or Octa is.
Plenty of hot new phones came out after the Galaxy S3's July release in the U.S. like the Razr Maxx HD, Nexus 4, etc. yet the GS3 outsold all of them by a huge margin. The average consumer doesn't buy phones based mainly on hardware specs.
Verizon is launching it on may 23rd, not may 30th. I went to Verizon yesterday and there was a Samsung rep there showing the employees the s4 and they said the official launch date is the 23rd. I know that's still three weeks later than the rest, but at least its a week earlier than may 30th. I gotta question, is verizons s4 going to be harder to unlock and root than the rest of them? I heard Verizon likes to lock them down, and I've never owned a smartphone I've been holding out for this one. I own a nexus 7 which is obviously the easiest to unlock and root. But i know the s4 is a huge release so I'm kinda assuming that there will be a solid method to root for Verizon. Am i right?
According to official PR from Samsung today, it will be on all major US carriers by the end of April. I'm guessing April 30th.
The Galaxy S 4 is optimized for powerful performance on the nation’s fastest networks and will be available on AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile and Verizon Wireless as well as U.S. Cellular, Cricket and C Spire starting during April. Additionally, consumers can find the Galaxy S 4 at Best Buy and Best Buy Mobile, Costco, Radio Shack, Sam’s Club, Staples, Target and Wal-Mart. Exact pricing and retail availability will be announced by each of the carriers and retailers in the coming weeks.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20687
hurricane350 said:
According to official PR from Samsung today, it will be on all major US carriers by the end of April. I'm guessing April 30th.
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20687
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Available to carriers and carriers making the phone available to consumers are two different things.
And for the OP... i am not sure how new phones will make the s4 obsolete? a cpu does not a phone make....
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Available to carriers and carriers making the phone available to consumers are two different things.
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But it says available on not to... I'm staying optimistic!
It also says "starting in april" that could mean that just one or a few carriers will roll it out in April.
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I.D.K. why the O.P. is saying that the galaxy s4 would be obsolete soon i mean come on the motorla x phone right now is just a nice looking rumor plus a processor in a phone doesn't make all that difference because maybe you saw last year's htc one X+ it smoked the galaxy but the battery was really bad plus i hardly ever think android needs more power right now they need to be more battery friendly and better screen really what do you want more than 441ppi ?? anyway looking at all those gs4 specs and concediring what happened with last year's gs3 i can tell you that the galaxy won't go down till the gs5 is out so don't worry if verizon goes a few weeks later than everyone else it will still sell like hot cakes.
I still have unlimited internet after 4/21 can I buy new galaxy s4 cell using the new 12 month payment plan that's effective on 4/21 without upgrading to the 200sub? Does anyone know I think everyone who still has unlimited internet should ask Verizon this.. I wanna get the new s4 but keep my unlimited internet so will this 12month thing work for me?
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I am going to tell you right now that Verizon's phones are the worst due to the spyware they bloat them up with. I hope they do as little to it as possible and there's no way verizon is going to pay for a S800 S4. They are cheap when it comes to there phones and replacing one that has gone bad is near impossible unless you take them to the FCC. If they ever touch my unlimited, I am gone with out a hint of doubt.
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I am going to tell you right now that Verizon's phones are the worst due to the spyware they bloat them up with. I hope they do as little to it as possible and there's no way verizon is going to pay for a S800 S4. They are cheap when it comes to there phones and replacing one that has gone bad is near impossible unless you take them to the FCC. If they ever touch my unlimited, I am gone with out a hint of doubt.
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I actually find that replacing phones is very easy on verizon compared to sprint. I had sprint in the past and their customer service was atrocious. The Fascinate (Verizon Galaxy S) apparently had lots of problems, and they kept getting replaced until the Droid Charge came out, when Verizon just started giving out Charges to replace Fascinates.
The Charge had some problems too, and if you got enough bad ones from them, they even started handing out the Bionic, Rezound, and Razr too (phones that came out later with much higher specs). I even bricked my Charge and they just gave me a new one.
Verizon web page updated with Galaxy S4
Verizon web page updated today with Galaxy S4
The next big thing is coming.....late
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I'm in the HTC camp.....
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They had to post something. The basically are going to be releasing with the third world, lol. Its ALWAYS something with them. They did their best to wreck the galaxy nexus, they were in on the Carrier IQ scandal, they have to plaster their dated logo on everything, and they sell pretty much the most bloated phones in existence. Yes, they have a good network, but frankly, I live in DFW...all the carriers have good networks here. It's flat, populated and affluent.
I have an upgrade, but their delay conveniently puts me within a month of my contract ending. My wife gets a ~25% discount through work, but I can get 15% on T-Mobile, and with the massive price difference, it actually makes T-mobile a better deal. I may even pickup up a used N4, get the $30 walmart plan thing, and wait for the Note III.
I guess as someone that pays attention and is tired of getting screwed and treated like an idiot sheep, I am just not their target market.
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They had to post something. The basically are going to be releasing with the third world, lol. Its ALWAYS something with them. They did their best to wreck the galaxy nexus, they were in on the Carrier IQ scandal, they have to plaster their dated logo on everything, and they sell pretty much the most bloated phones in existence. Yes, they have a good network, but frankly, I live in DFW...all the carriers have good networks here. It's flat, populated and affluent.
I have an upgrade, but their delay conveniently puts me within a month of my contract ending. My wife gets a ~25% discount through work, but I can get 15% on T-Mobile, and with the massive price difference, it actually makes T-mobile a better deal. I may even pickup up a used N4, get the $30 walmart plan thing, and wait for the Note III.
I guess as someone that pays attention and is tired of getting screwed and treated like an idiot sheep, I am just not their target market.
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I don't know exactly which options you're choosing, but if you do the math I suspect you'll find that T-Mobile isn't the better deal. I've been doing research recently for an upgrade myself, and I found that corporate discounts actually significantly narrow the gap between T-Mobile and Verizon. Reason is because with T-Mobile ditching subsidies but lowering the monthly bill, the value of a discount on that smaller monthly bill is proportionately less. If you factor in the fact that a full price GS4 on T-Mobile is $630 vs $200 for Verizon, Verizon might actually come out ahead over the course of 2 years.
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I don't know exactly which options you're choosing, but if you do the math I suspect you'll find that T-Mobile isn't the better deal. I've been doing research recently for an upgrade myself, and I found that corporate discounts actually significantly narrow the gap between T-Mobile and Verizon. Reason is because with T-Mobile ditching subsidies but lowering the monthly bill, the value of a discount on that smaller monthly bill is proportionately less. If you factor in the fact that a full price GS4 on T-Mobile is $630 vs $200 for Verizon, Verizon might actually come out ahead over the course of 2 years.
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If he used like 1GB a month sure it would cost less, but Verizon's network has really gone down the drain in the bigger citys. May as well have sprint 3G at times it get's so bad. Now if you live in bum ville sure Verzion win's. But he live's in the city so data speeds will be better on T-moblie.
Also no unlimited data any more with verizon and those like me that still have it get throttled.
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I have an upgrade, but their delay conveniently puts me within a month of my contract ending.
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If you're considering using an upgrade, that means you don't have unlimited, in which case my question is... why bother with VZ?
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Also no unlimited data any more with verizon and those like me that still have it get throttled.
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It's not throttled. When the network isn't congested (as you say, places like NYC during the day are crap) I still get great speeds.
I'm planning on selling my DNA (with a Nokia wireless charger) and Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet around the time the Note 3 is released. The Note 3 will essentially be a faster, higher resolution, and more portable (albeit smaller) version of the Note 10.1, which I love. I also have a DNA, which is the main reason I'm here.
My DNA has a few small scratches at the top of the screen over the verizon logo (not part of the actual screen) and a very small knick on the bottom left edge of phone which isn't very noticeable at all. I don't have any pictures of my phone to show, but you can trust that my description is accurate as I'm trying to accurately gauge what I can get out of the phone money-wise. Other than what's previously mentioned, the phone is in perfect condition. Runs well, very smooth, etc etc. Assuming I maintain the phone until September/October, how much can I expect to get out of it? I've seen listings on Ebay for around $325-$400 used, and I expect I can get just a little bit more by including the charger.
I'm curious to know if time was anything to do with the resale value. Will I be able to get the same $325-$400 out of it if I keep using it for about 4 months longer? I've had it since Christmas, so I'd have been using it for about 9 months. I assume the value would drop a little bit, but I'm not sure how much.
Thanks in advance for the help, I appreciate it!
I'm sure with the introduction of new devices like Galaxy s4 an HTC One or the Note 3 will most definitely lower your resale value on your device to the low end of things.
Its pretty much how it works with electronics they get obsolete really quick.
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shook187 said:
I'm sure with the introduction of new devices like Galaxy s4 an HTC One or the Note 3 will most definitely lower your resale value on your device to the low end of things.
Its pretty much how it works with electronics they get obsolete really quick.
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I also look at these things. I've been doing it for 6 years. I try to buy and sell during the smallest drop where the phone is still relevant. I find that to be buying at 400-450 and selling at 250-300. Usually i buy around 4-6 months after a phone comes out and sell it after owning for just less than a year. The DNA dropped in price quick. I was able to grab it just after 3 months for $375, i expect to see $300 around August when i will probably get the S4.
with that said, Verizon and sprint lose value much quicker because of the lack of true GSM, though sprint is worse by far. I am predicting this phone to be around 325 come august and 275 by christmas. then it will stabilize at 200-250 for another year. We are in the quick downfall period for the phone. Also Brands matter. I've found Samsung galaxy to be the best retainer followed by HTC, then Moto and LG.
here's how it usually flows.
A typical new phone that retails for $650
First 3 months Loss of < 150(500)
Next 3 months Loss of <100 (400)
next 3 months loss of <75 (325)
next 3 months loss of <75(250)
next 12 months loss of <50 (200)
I'll second the $300 estimate for late summer. It's a decent time to sell as the pre Christmas phones haven't been announced yet. Once that happens the value will go into the $hitter.
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The Note 2 is retailing around $700 online at Verizon right now, so I think it'd be safe to assume the Note 3 will be around $750-$800 when it's first released? And how long would it be until I could probably buy a Note 3 off amazon or ebay at a slightly lower price? Thanks for the replies guys, I appreciate it.
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The Note 2 is retailing around $700 online at Verizon right now, so I think it'd be safe to assume the Note 3 will be around $750-$800 when it's first released? And how long would it be until I could probably buy a Note 3 off amazon or ebay at a slightly lower price? Thanks for the replies guys, I appreciate it.
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The Note2 price on Verizon did not hold up very well. I think the big size eventually turns off users who really were not expecting that which creates a larger than average resale market. When i bought my DNA back in March, there were NOTE2 going straight up for trades with the DNA which you could easily have gotten for $375-$400. Both devices came out in November but the Note 2 retailed much higer at $700. That's a $300 drop in 4 months. If i was in the market for a Note, i'd wait 4 months. It dropped about a hundred a month those 1st 4 months and since has stabilized and even gone up a little.
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The Note 2 is retailing around $700 online at Verizon right now, so I think it'd be safe to assume the Note 3 will be around $750-$800 when it's first released? And how long would it be until I could probably buy a Note 3 off amazon or ebay at a slightly lower price? Thanks for the replies guys, I appreciate it.
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Sam's Club was giving away Note II's on Verizon as early as January. I could see the Note III being the same.
It seems that of all the VZW Android phones for sale new today, that the G3 is about the most modifiable unit available.
I'm seriously thinking about switching to VZW and buying a new G3 like today or tomorrow but have some questions about the firmware version the new units are currently shipping with...
Anybody know what the currently shipping firmware version is on brand new units?
And is it still rootable / able to have custom ROMS installed on it? Or have all the exploits that allowed this been discovered and plugged up?
I am not a complete stranger to rooting and custom ROMs, having done this to my HTC Desire, but that was nearly 3 years ago and I've been running the same CM7 build on it taken from a June 2012 nightly build that was an exceptionally good one. And yes, I'm still running a 4 year old US Cellular android 2.x phone :laugh: because it's been a rock-solid juggernaut that's always been dependable and I've gotten every penny's worth out of it. It's time to move on to a more modern phone plus I need the better network coverage of VZW's network and nation-wide data that USCC simply doesn't have.
I've read thru a couple hundred pages here on XDA about the VS985 and understand that the G3 can generally be downgraded to an older version of the firmware to facilitate these things, but there seem to be some caveats on getting into download mode on later versions and just want to be comfortable that I'm not going to get a phone that has been finally locked down into a dead-end street of running only official software.
unless something changed in the last day that i missed, your all gud with any current version.
however, the Nexus 6 is a much better option. development is through the roof, and will stay that way for a long time.
plus, it completely annihilates the g3 in almost every aspect except for maybe stock cam, but there are 2 aosp compatible cams that are very good.
I looked at the N6, but there's a couple things I really don't like about it.
It's too big. The G3 is pushing my limits for a phone size, I would actually like it to be a bit smaller.
No SD card is a real showstopper for me. Google is retarded for doing that.
Non-removable battery isn't quite a showstopper, but still a big turn-off.
The G3 being a 2014 year model, is still quite a capable device but is now also becoming very affordable now that the 2015 phones like the HTC M9 and the Sammy GS6 are hitting the market and capturing the attention.
Normally, I'd just pay retail and do a month-2-month plan, but by signing up for Verizon Edge 24 month 0% finance plan to buy the phone, the extra $15/month discount on the data plan almost pays for the phone... it's actually cheaper for the whole 24 month period to do it this way than to pay full retail or do the $99 2 year subsidized purchase. I'll be paying nearly the same exact monthly bill by switching to VZW and getting this new phone as I'm currently handing over each month to USCC and getting crappy data, no data roaming, no tethering, and operating a 4 yr old phone.
Being able to root&rom the G3 even with a locked bootloader is also a definite plus as well. I'm not a constant tinkerer with my phones, but I do want the option to have root, debloat the apps and/or run a custom rom if I so desire.
yea, the n6 seemed big for the first week or so i had it, but i love it now, and the development is bar none.
yes there is development for g3 but its limited to a handful of roms.
not trying to put the g3 down, i have one, just if you can get used to the n6, its a no brainer if you like to mod your phone.
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btw, with the speed charger, battery is of little concern, and i bought a 64g otg for like $30 from amazon to fix any storage needs.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RBGYGPG/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I looked at the N6, but there's a couple things I really don't like about it.
It's too big. The G3 is pushing my limits for a phone size, I would actually like it to be a bit smaller.
No SD card is a real showstopper for me. Google is retarded for doing that.
Non-removable battery isn't quite a showstopper, but still a big turn-off.
The G3 being a 2014 year model, is still quite a capable device but is now also becoming very affordable now that the 2015 phones like the HTC M9 and the Sammy GS6 are hitting the market and capturing the attention.
Normally, I'd just pay retail and do a month-2-month plan, but by signing up for Verizon Edge 24 month 0% finance plan to buy the phone, the extra $15/month discount on the data plan almost pays for the phone... it's actually cheaper for the whole 24 month period to do it this way than to pay full retail or do the $99 2 year subsidized purchase. I'll be paying nearly the same exact monthly bill by switching to VZW and getting this new phone as I'm currently handing over each month to USCC and getting crappy data, no data roaming, no tethering, and operating a 4 yr old phone.
Being able to root&rom the G3 even with a locked bootloader is also a definite plus as well. I'm not a constant tinkerer with my phones, but I do want the option to have root, debloat the apps and/or run a custom rom if I so desire.
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No external SD, and no removable battery on the n6 right? Why not just buy an iPhone and get it over with?
Just playin...
You won't be mad at yourself if you grab a g3 though, especially if you're saving $ & upgrading your service. It is big, not as big as others, but you'll get used to it and probably actually prefer it after watching some videos on your qhd screen and taking some pics with the excellent g3 camera. You may have to roll back to get root depending on your version, but that's not a difficult thing to do at all. Once you're rolled back you can have root and custom recovery in @ 10-15min...super easy.
Another option is you can always take a phone for a test drive depending on where you buy it, so if you're undecided maybe that would be best so you have no regrets. Amazon has a 2 week return policy & they ship really fast, so if you get a phone and don't like it just return it and get something else for no charge :good:
Yeah... not gonna support Apple by buying any of their products lol
Looks like the G3 is going to be good to go for my needs and desires. I'm a tightwad and the G3 seems to be a great bang for the buck value right now so Im going to pull the trigger either tomorrow or Thursday and get one. Even though the Bumped roms available for it might be a bit limited for a hardcore modder, I think they'll be perfectly suited for me. All I want is mainly root and de-bloat the apps I'll never use. I do want a good camera and lots of storage so this will likely be a good handset for me.... just hope it lasts for 2 years :fingers-crossed:
bweN diorD said:
unless something changed in the last day that i missed, your all gud with any current version.
however, the Nexus 6 is a much better option. development is through the roof, and will stay that way for a long time.
plus, it completely annihilates the g3 in almost every aspect except for maybe stock cam, but there are 2 aosp compatible cams that are very good.
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N6 would be no go for me. No removable battery and do SD Slot....
Got my G3, posting this from it now.
So far, Life's Good! :good: