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Ever since I first released an undervolted kernel (can you believe that it actually used to be a new idea? Seems so normal now), its been a mad dash to see how much further down the voltage can be pushed. In light of recent events, there has been controversy regarding whether or not dropping below ~925mV actually begins to negatively impact battery life.
Without getting into the technical details behind why I believe that going that low actually does affect battery life, I'm conducting a blind study. I'm going to produce 3 kernels at three different voltages. I'm then going to send these kernels randomly to people that sign up on the attached spreadsheet in order to collect data for 7 days.
I know that this won't be 100% accurate, but I feel that if we get a large enough sample size, over 7 days, the general trend should emerge.
What I ask for you to do if you want to participate is sign up on the attached spreadsheet and try not to change your rom/usage patterns within these 7 days. Just go about your day and record your values at the end.
You will not know what the voltage of the kernel you are receiving is, so there will have to be a certain degree of trust. I promise I will do my best to not blow up your phone
This truly has to be a community effort. The more people we have, the better. Once the study has been concluded, I will reveal which kernel had the best battery life for the most amount of people.
Please spread the word about this, the more it is on blogs and the like, the greater the sample size and the more accurate the results.
Link: http://bit.ly/9YjM5X
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The kernels have all be emailed to people that gave me an email address. Tues-Sat, please run the kernel that is labeled CONTROL. Do not alter your day to day usage from what you always do. At the end of each day please record how long you were off charger and your percent battery left. Use your best judgement for giving statistics. The more detailed, the better.
Sunday-Thurs we will run the TEST kernel. Again do the same thing and record your usage daily.
It is VITAL that you record the statistics at the end of the day every day.
As an added bonus, I included the memory modification by coolbho3k because I know you all want the latest and greatest
Will it matter what battery we have? Or is stock battery required?
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Will it matter what battery we have? Or is stock battery required?
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doesn't matter as long as you post your previous results so we have something to base it against.
This is a fantastic idea. Might actually help me recover from my kernel flashing compulsion. Prolly not though....
Persiansown, what do you mean by "record your values at the end"? Are we to take a log of battery usage or just writing down on the sheet what the usage was like each day?
thanks
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Persiansown, what do you mean by "record your values at the end"? Are we to take a log of battery usage or just writing down on the sheet what the usage was like each day?
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Its going to be subjective but I'm trying to figure out the best way to record them right now. I don't need any feedback values until I actually send out the kernels though
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Its going to be subjective but I'm trying to figure out the best way to record them right now. I don't need any feedback values until I actually send out the kernels though
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yeah, i understand that it's not needed until after we start using the kernel; just wanted to know what you were actually looking for, and if it wasn't subjective
thanks and looking forward to this
im really interested in this. would it also be possible to give feedback on reception? because as of late my signal has been worse with all the uv kernels...
How are we going to set the baseline? The best way to eliminate the potential for usage differences to skew the results is for us to all run the exact same kernel for X amount of time to set a baseline, then do the blind test of the 3 different kernels, and compare the difference between before and after.
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How are we going to set the baseline? The best way to eliminate the potential for usage differences to skew the results is for us to all run the exact same kernel for X amount of time to set a baseline, then do the blind test of the 3 different kernels, and compare the difference between before and after.
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Yeah I've been trying to think of a way that would take less time, but I think that way would be best. Anyone have a better suggestion?
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Yeah I've been trying to think of a way that would take less time, but I think that way would be best. Anyone have a better suggestion?
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We could also look at time spent "running" in spare parts... but that would be much more complicated and less accurate (I would hate to do the statistical break down on that)... but it would be much quicker and would provide some nice info as well... ie 5 hours spent running and 7 hours sleeping used 80% battery... where as 1 hour running and 11 hours sleeping used 50%... but we would also have to factor in so many other aspects and track those to get a truly accurate picture, ie WiFi or 3G or 2G... what is your screen brightness... and so forth.
Hey persian, this is a great idea!!! to get to the bottom of all this.
Can I suggest something though, and hope I don't get flamed for it, or hope you wont take it the wrong way. But will you include, an AVS kernel running 800mV as well? There have been discussions about this also. Thanks!
Each tester would have to test all three kernels and try to maintain roughly the same useage. Was this your plan?
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How are we going to set the baseline? The best way to eliminate the potential for usage differences to skew the results is for us to all run the exact same kernel for X amount of time to set a baseline, then do the blind test of the 3 different kernels, and compare the difference between before and after.
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This is a good approach. But I think for it to be even more standardized one would need to run this completely app and theme free. THe interaction between certain apps and usage is an unknown variable. For example, how much does K-9 mail draw? It goes without saying that themes have some sort of affect on behavior. So IMO, to be as objective as possible you would need to remove all sources of ambiguity to have this test mean something. Just my two cents
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We could also look at time spent "running" in spare parts... but that would be much more complicated and less accurate (I would hate to do the statistical break down on that)... but it would be much quicker and would provide some nice info as well... ie 5 hours spent running and 7 hours sleeping used 80% battery... where as 1 hour running and 11 hours sleeping used 50%... but we would also have to factor in so many other aspects and track those to get a truly accurate picture, ie WiFi or 3G or 2G... what is your screen brightness... and so forth.
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That would be pretty complicated and I think Kmobs would need a grant to run the statistics. I think there would have to be a baseline established like GPS off, brightness set to x percent, bluetooth off etc. And I think as Kmobs knows, each chip was not created equally.
Persiansown, I don't think you need to start with a baseline in order to compare. Once you send out the kernel and we use it for 1 week with normal usage for each user. At the end of the week, you can send out another kernel, exactly the same this time for everyone, and we can use it for few days and we will be able to notice the difference.
Correct . This is how I thought he was gonna do it. And what I think is best.
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Persiansown, I don't think you need to start with a baseline in order to compare. Once you send out the kernel and we use it for 1 week with normal usage for each user. At the end of the week, you can send out another kernel, exactly the same this time for everyone, and we can use it for few days and we will be able to notice the difference.
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How are we going to set the baseline? The best way to eliminate the potential for usage differences to skew the results is for us to all run the exact same kernel for X amount of time to set a baseline, then do the blind test of the 3 different kernels, and compare the difference between before and after.
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Yeah I've been trying to think of a way that would take less time, but I think that way would be best. Anyone have a better suggestion?
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I was trying to think of a good way to get a baseline to compare to for every one and this is my sugestion. Make three kernels at 850, 925, and control/stock. Send everyone on the list two kernels, one of the two UV kernels and one stock/control. Allow them to run the first kernel for a certain number of days, record data, then send everyone the second kernel and do the same. Randomize who gets the control first or the UV first and keep it blind. (Don't tell them which of the two is the control obviously.) This way half test the 850, half test 925, and all test the control/stock, giving you an accurate baseline for everyone's individual phone usage and battery size.
Scientific Method FTW!!!
awesome idea.
Count me in...I will sign up when I get home from work tonight. This is an excellent idea. Ideas lke this is what make xda the number one source for android information.
Hey everyone, I just got my Flyer (Evo View), so I expect I'll be frequenting these forums often. I am just wondering everyone's general impressions of their device so far?
I broke down and bought one after months of waiting for a honeycomb 7" device... and so far I'm satisfied. The device seems snappy, battery life is decent, and its the perfect size. I got GV up and running, installed SIPDroid, which works fine for calls, the only issue I have seen is that while 'sleeping', it seems to turn off data connections as well, not sure what is going on there.
I'm still getting used to the size, this is replacing my old phone after all (HTC Magic) so its quite a size difference.
I see that temp root has occured, hopefully a full root will soon follow.
Any recommendations on a good case?
I believe by default that's set to turn off radio/wifi/etc. overnight. Go into your settings and look under battery or something like that. It's a power save option that I actually really like. It extends the battery life by so much if you just set it to turn off when you're sleeping. I've had 2 or 3 days usage out of my Flyer with moderate usage during the day.
Thanks tom_m, that seems to have fixed it. Not sure if I'll turn that back on or not yet...
What is a good data tracking app that is accurate on the flyer? I saw 3g Watchdog, but people say its not accurate on all devices....
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Thanks tom_m, that seems to have fixed it. Not sure if I'll turn that back on or not yet...
What is a good data tracking app that is accurate on the flyer? I saw 3g Watchdog, but people say its not accurate on all devices....
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I would also recommend going to settings > Wi-FI settings > hit menu > Advanced > Wi-Fi sleep policy and set to never sleep
also, I always check best wifi performance.
I am also leaving my phone for this as my new "big a** phone" as most people call it. I have a sip account and I have Csipsimple, which I like, but I've been using groove IP with much success. I like it because it shows my google voice number when I call someone.
3G watchdog has worked perfectly for me so far. I am using the evo view as well. It matches sprint's readings exactly, as far as I can tell.
I am considering using this device for work as my "notepad". I envision bringing it to meeting to take notes and at times take photos of chalkboards, etc and write notes over of the image. For those of you that own one, do you think this device can handle a daily workload of heavy note taking or is that feature more for occasional use?
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3G watchdog has worked perfectly for me so far. I am using the evo view as well. It matches sprint's readings exactly, as far as I can tell.
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I made another thread about this, but have you noticed 3g running slow? I did some research, found out it is a bug. I have decided to take it back because of this since 90% of my time on the tablet is using 3g. Being limited to .10 Mbps makes it unusable.
When the fix comes out, maybe I will revisit the Flyer, or maybe something else will be out...not sure.
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I am considering using this device for work as my "notepad". I envision bringing it to meeting to take notes and at times take photos of chalkboards, etc and write notes over of the image. For those of you that own one, do you think this device can handle a daily workload of heavy note taking or is that feature more for occasional use?
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Its exactly what I've been using it for for the past three weeks. I think notetaking is THE intended use of this device.
Could be a popular device if only updates/root would come out sooner
I simply cannot let go off my flyer.the day I got my flyer was the day when I returned my Motorola xoom(d.o.o.m.) which BTW I got a day earlier! I lost 25% cost of xoom cough..d.o.o.m..
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I love my View, I browse the web on it quite extensively while at work and by the time I get home, I still have around 50% battery life. Thats after being unplugged for 12 hours, my work day.
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PLEASE MOVE THIS THREAD TO GENERAL MY APOLOGIES
I know battery life issues have been talked to death but...Here's a new perspective:
so I have been doing some experimenting with my amaze in terms of battery life and asking my friend who works at T-mobile regarding his SGS2...He says his battery life seems to be pretty crappy too, marginally better than the amaze....so, I hard reset my phone and I did not sign into google, left my phone on airplain mode, basically I did not set up anything...I turned off wifi, and data everything was truned off...I went for 10 hours with only 2 percent battery drainage...then I signed into google....and in a matter of 10 minutes I went from 98 percent to 92... Watever is eating the battery up is not the phones hardware fault or the screens fault... I turned off background data sync and it seemed to make little difference...It seems the google programs or any program that needs internet connect regardless of syncing or not will have significant effect on your battery life...between 4g and wifi I saw little difference in battery life drainage...my phone signal is completely green so I cannot blame the signal... I cannot possibly kill gmail, market, maps etc...these are programs I use constantly...lets hope with the ICS update some of these sofware issues will resolve...
google needs to start managing applications better and not leave a bunch of applications running in the forground and background...
I've heard different theories regarding task killers...some say it actually worsens battery life since programs keep wanting to restart and some say it saves battery life...can anyone elaborate on this? I have juice defender ultimate, it seems to make minute difference in battery life as well.
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Display is the biggest factor obviously and then its data transfer or anything that has to do with transmitting signal.
like every other phone the 100% lasts for a long time then after it drops it drops quickly. So your analyses is flawed since it already dropped from 100% and then you switched data on. There are apps that are constantly sending data and the sense UI kills the battery a lot too. Thats why AOSP roms are better for battery life.
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managing your apps helps
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I've tried juice defender, um... I would suggest you read about instructions on flashing a custom ROM I'm on quiksense and when 2.0 comes out I heard xboarder's got some really nice improvements with the 1.4.1 version I almost doubled my battery life. My phone used to go down to 50~60 idle over night, now it's about 90~ idle over night.
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Display is the biggest factor obviously and then its data transfer or anything that has to do with transmitting signal.
like every other phone the 100% lasts for a long time then after it drops it drops quickly. So your analyses is flawed since it already dropped from 100% and then you switched data on. There are apps that are constantly sending data and the sense UI kills the battery a lot too. Thats why AOSP roms are better for battery life.
Juicedefender helps
setcpu helps
managing your apps helps
changing your background to black helps
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Juicedefender did help but then I was missing all my google talk messages, google voice messages, google voice voicemails and a bunch of stuff...ever going through the settings and setting it up to recheck background data every 5 minutes did not work with J/D...so I stopped using it...I need my data to come through...whats the point of having a phone if you can't get notification and use the features meant to.... I used to be a strickly no bloatware simplistic out of the box google experience guy...thus my nexus one...I LOVED IT...then dropped it and not worth fixing. nexus S was dissapointing, so is the galaxy nexus...I hate all the bloatware, and all the customizations t-mobile makes to the phone...like t-mobile inscription on the phone, t-mobile startup screen...etc...yes I know I could root and change all that stuff...honestly I just don't feel like going through all that crap!!! and also void my warranty...I don't undestand howcome the iphone is never branded!!!???/ wtf....I buy a phone and it's mine why does it have to come with a logo of the company....IT'S MY PHONE. THEY SHOULD INSCRIBE MY NAME ON IT. as for the bloatware I figured out how to temproot and freeze programs... I don't think you can change the startup screen to the original HTC one with temp root...damn T-mobile...you used to be so much better...
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Juicedefender did help but then I was missing all my google talk messages, google voice messages, google voice voicemails and a bunch of stuff...ever going through the settings and setting it up to recheck background data every 5 minutes did not work with J/D...so I stopped using it...I need my data to come through...whats the point of having a phone if you can't get notification and use the features meant to.... I used to be a strickly no bloatware simplistic out of the box google experience guy...thus my nexus one...I LOVED IT...then dropped it and not worth fixing. nexus S was dissapointing, so is the galaxy nexus...I hate all the bloatware, and all the customizations t-mobile makes to the phone...like t-mobile inscription on the phone, t-mobile startup screen...etc...yes I know I could root and change all that stuff...honestly I just don't feel like going through all that crap!!! and also void my warranty...I don't undestand howcome the iphone is never branded!!!???/ wtf....I buy a phone and it's mine why does it have to come with a logo of the company....IT'S MY PHONE. THEY SHOULD INSCRIBE MY NAME ON IT. as for the bloatware I figured out how to temproot and freeze programs... I don't think you can change the startup screen to the original HTC one with temp root...damn T-mobile...you used to be so much better...
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use JD ultimate and set the apps to work with screen off.
you can get a telus or wind model without the tmobile branding
i think you can change the bootanimation with temp root because it's just a file? I'm not exactly sure about that one though.
apple sells their iphone to ATT
as htc sells their phone tmobile
tmobile probably request a branding on it with a higher cost.
att probably reject the higher cost because they're already losing money when buying the iphone from apple (i think i remember i read it awhile ago) and make money off data plans.
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use JD ultimate and set the apps to work with screen off.
you can get a telus or wind model without the tmobile branding
i think you can change the bootanimation with temp root because it's just a file? I'm not exactly sure about that one though.
apple sells their iphone to ATT
as htc sells their phone tmobile
tmobile probably request a branding on it with a higher cost.
att probably reject the higher cost because they're already losing money when buying the iphone from apple (i think i remember i read it awhile ago) and make money off data plans.
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I did use JD ultimate with those apps enable, NO GO, MAYBE I SHOULD RESTART AND GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY...its only when that program requests it that it can initiate the data line, otherwise if someone sends you a text i will not get it since both wifi and data line are cut off permenantly during screen off that is how it saves battery....enabling programs are good for things such as pandora etc...once they end a playlist or something it automatically turns off....this is what I understood from the explaination...i temp rooted and removed some bloatware...hopefully I can change the startup screen as well, perhaps through adb push
P.S. where do I download the original HTC boot animation and sound and what folder is it in to push into? thanks
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I did use JD ultimate with those apps enable, NO GO, MAYBE I SHOULD RESTART AND GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY...its only when that program requests it that it can initiate the data line, otherwise if someone sends you a text i will not get it since both wifi and data line are cut off permenantly during screen off that is how it saves battery....enabling programs are good for things such as pandora etc...once they end a playlist or something it automatically turns off....this is what I understood from the explaination...i temp rooted and removed some bloatware...hopefully I can change the startup screen as well, perhaps through adb push
P.S. where do I download the original HTC boot animation and sound and what folder is it in to push into? thanks
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for JD you want to click on the app thing twice so it goes to enable/screen off not just enabled. But yeah i noticed that sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
not sure where the bootanimation and sounds is it at, i never played with it. You should check out the themes section, you can download the zip and browse through where it goes.... other than that there might be other threads with the instructions on where it's at.
You may want to try an AOSP based rom, (if you rooted)
I was getting 18 hours of use with 36% left, Medium usage (ie browsing, texting)
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for JD you want to click on the app thing twice so it goes to enable/screen off not just enabled. But yeah i noticed that sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
not sure where the bootanimation and sounds is it at, i never played with it. You should check out the themes section, you can download the zip and browse through where it goes.... other than that there might be other threads with the instructions on where it's at.
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ya i clicked twice enable/screen off...still no go for those particular programs i tested and tested it....oh well..my batterly life is not bad at all...besides I have a car kit which charges it in the car. once i started using the thing tho, battery drains fast...its no mystery its got a big screen bigger than my old N1 which used to be amoled and this is lcd...also this uses 4g which consumes significantly greater battery...faster processor etc....its not a mystery!!! they need to come up with a new battery technology soon!!!!
Well I have been using My data manager it has been very accurate, but this one produce so many wakelocks that drain a bit faster the battery.. So which other you will recommend. ??
That is almost as accurate, and the most important thing is that keep record for various sims.. I switch sims (3) very often.. My data manager, always detect which sim is used, and never loose the previous use.
Have you tried Onavo?
I literally JUST installed Onavo before seeing this thread. Gonna try it out to make sure I don't go over my 3 GB LIMIT ON MY UNLIMITED DATA PLAN
I wouldn't use the 3G watchdog or whatever. That was way off for me. I had used about twice what it said. :/ I even tried the option it had for a different way of counting and it got worse. I don't use anything now, I just periodically check that usd code thing.
SHOStock + ICS theme + ICS themed gb keyboard = the flashaholic cure!
I've run 3G watchdog for a while - doesn't seem to be a significant battery hit, but as previously posted, not as accurate as the other options.
More recently ran MDM for a while - very accurate, but mild additional battery drain, though it didn't seem to show up heavily in BBS.
Running Onavo for a second time now, seems to also be a mild battery drain, thinking I'm probably not gonna keep it.
For non-continuous but quite accurate data, I also have my ATT account set up in PageOnce. It does roughly 24 hour updates (I think, haven't paid too much attention). It can also be manually updated. Has a very nice interface to see a bunch of info regarding my account (so I can keep an eye on how many texts my mother-in-law uses on her pay-per-use text plan ) With this, I can get a pretty close rough idea where I am data use wise at a glance, and update manually if I need to know exactly. Will also throw alerts when getting close to maxing out airtime minutes and data usage. I haven't seen any negative battery impact from this app, and is my fallback when I get sick of the other options...
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The problem I have with Onavo is that if you install it on say the 15th, there is no way to tell it how much data you have ALREADY used that month.
Same thing if you flash a new ROM. It starts from zero (as far as I can tell) when you install it. No way to tell it "I have already used xxxMB" etc.
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The problem I have with Onavo is that if you install it on say the 15th, there is no way to tell it how much data you have ALREADY used that month.
Same thing if you flash a new ROM. It starts from zero (as far as I can tell) when you install it. No way to tell it "I have already used xxxMB" etc.
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yeah, you can. In Onavo, menu>settings>set data plan>set previously used data.
Thanks.. I installed Onavo and this one doesn´t detect which sim is used !! If in sim 1, have used 300mb and then install sim 2, the data used in sim 2 is added to the overall usage !!
Tha same happen with data counter widget. 3G watchdog as everyone say is not accurate enough..
Guess will not be able to leave My data manager.
Are all 3 Sims at&t? If so why not use the AT&T Communication Manager Widget?
It will show data used & remaining for whatever sim card is inserted.
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Are all 3 Sims at&t? If so why not use the AT&T Communication Manager Widget?
It will show data used & remaining for whatever sim card is inserted.
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Noup 1 is from at&t and the others are from different carriers..
I used to have the classic Mobile Network standby battery drain issue, until I flashed CalyxOS.
I left my phone with 100% battery before I went to bed last night and woke up this morning 8 hours later with no drain of any kind at all.
Might be an option for anyone else with the same issue.
Interesting. So that confirms it's a software issue and not hardware. Which is a relief. It means Google can fix it via OTA update. Hopefully enough people reported it that Google took notice. i am on chat with google now and they want me to factory reset. I was hoping to avoid that
wait just a question. you said 8 hours.those stats don't update for 24 hours. So you got 16 more hours to go till you know if the issue is fixed. that is why there are no stats at all on your screenshot. It just says battery data isn't available right now
Edit: ok I was wrong about that because I factory reset my phone (on the advise of Google support) and it's been 7 hours and I can see stats. But yes not losing anything In 8 hours is suspicious. I mean it could happen I guess my pixel 4xl got fantastic battery life and apparently mine was the only 4xl that got good battery life because everyone else hated the 4xl because of battery life. Anyway with my 4xl I would lose 1 or 2 percent overnight same with my 1,2,3a and 5. It's only the 6 that this is happening too. I just hope that it can be fixed with an software update.
8 hours with no drain is suspicious if you are not in Airplane mode. The clock, the weather app, email client, a bunch of things at least asks back for update preiodically, so it seems odd.
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8 hours with no drain is suspicious if you are not in Airplane mode. The clock, the weather app, email client, a bunch of things at least asks back for update preiodically, so it seems odd.
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He's pushing this OS all over the place, not sure why. Most people do not want to bl unlock, wipe their devices and gamble with a new OS that probably doesn't work with Google Pay. And I agree 8 hours with no drain? Not likely although I did have 0.4% / hour one night. Usual is around 0.8 - 1.0 / hour.
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8 hours with no drain is suspicious if you are not in Airplane mode. The clock, the weather app, email client, a bunch of things at least asks back for update preiodically, so it seems odd.
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Calyx doesn't do anything really in the background. It's de-Googled and has background processes limited or killed altogether. It is certainly possible to get this low idle drain considering OP is on wifi with what looks to be a very strong mobile network signal so the inefficient Exynos modem isn't draining it.
The downside of course is that a bunch of stuff doesn't work right on Calyx because there are no Play Services. You can't even access the stuff you bought IAP for...
I see. I don't say that it is bad. limiting or killing processes in deep sleep would hurt the notifications too, right? It is an interesting OS, but I would join to the others. I need my apps in a convenient way. I did modding in the past but now I appreciate phones that just work when I take them out from the box.
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He's pushing this OS all over the place, not sure why. Most people do not want to bl unlock, wipe their devices and gamble with a new OS that probably doesn't work with Google Pay. And I agree 8 hours with no drain? Not likely although I did have 0.4% / hour one night. Usual is around 0.8 - 1.0 / hour.
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Where am I pushing anything? I'm sorry that I'm excited I've managed to solve a problem and want to share it with others where it could help. But hey, you're welcome to keep scrolling if my posts bother you that much.
For anyone else who might be interested, I took my phone off charge this morning and have been using it for the last 5 hours receiving Whatsapp messages, emails, calendar notifications, Doorbell/CCTV notifications and doing light internet browsing and I've lost 2% battery so far.
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Where am I pushing anything? I'm sorry that I'm excited I've managed to solve a problem and want to share it with others where it could help. But hey, you're welcome to keep scrolling if my posts bother you that much.
For anyone else who might be interested, I took my phone off charge this morning and have been using it for the last 5 hours receiving Whatsapp messages, emails, calendar notifications, Doorbell/CCTV notifications and doing light internet browsing and I've lost 2% battery so far.
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You might have "solved" one problem but introduced countless others. If you're really that excited then give all the info not just overnight battery drain and be a little more forthcoming about the rom. I mean in reality if I turn off all network activity and put it into airplane mode I'd get the same results and probably even better. And then there's your thread of ...Why isn't everyone running CalyxOS? Maybe one thread would have been enough instead of cross posting the Pro and the P6. Anyway, I do believe you have gotten enough feedback so people know the pitfalls of the rom and the supposed benefits of longer battery life.
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You might have "solved" one problem but introduced countless others. If you're really that excited then give all the info not just overnight battery drain and be a little more forthcoming about the rom. I mean in reality if I turn off all network activity and put it into airplane mode I'd get the same results and probably even better. And then there's your thread of ...Why isn't everyone running CalyxOS? Maybe one thread would have been enough instead of cross posting the Pro and the P6. Anyway, I do believe you have gotten enough feedback so people know the pitfalls of the rom and the supposed benefits of longer battery life.
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I turned nothing off. If I had I would have said so. What's the point in posting my findings then? I would be useless wouldn't it? I don't have time to play games and lead people around the bush. I'm not 12 years old anymore.
So just to satisfy your curiosity, I use my phone in exactly the same way I have always used it. Bluetooth off, Wifi and mobile data on, location on when I need it but off at the moment. All my apps work just the same as before including my banking app. The only thing I don't use now is Google Pay, and two of my apps with in app purchases are not registered. Apart from that it is exactly how it was before.
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I turned nothing off. If I had I would have said so. What's the point in posting my findings then? I would be useless wouldn't it? I don't have time to play games and lead people around the bush. I'm not 12 years old anymore.
So just to satisfy your curiosity, I use my phone in exactly the same way I have always used it. Bluetooth off, Wifi and mobile data on, location on when I need it but off at the moment. All my apps work just the same as before including my banking app. The only thing I don't use now is Google Pay, and two of my apps with in app purchases are not registered. Apart from that
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Ok you stated your case across multiple threads and others have stated theirs. Time to move on don't you think?
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Where am I pushing anything? I'm sorry that I'm excited I've managed to solve a problem and want to share it with others where it could help. But hey, you're welcome to keep scrolling if my posts bother you that much.
For anyone else who might be interested, I took my phone off charge this morning and have been using it for the last 5 hours receiving Whatsapp messages, emails, calendar notifications, Doorbell/CCTV notifications and doing light internet browsing and I've lost 2% battery so far.
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Mobile network standby of 2 minutes with 5 hours off the charger suggests airplane mode was in use.
I don't care how much stuff you turn off in the background, there is no way you're getting a 2% loss from 5 hours of usage unless you used the phone for less than 30 minutes in those 5 hours.
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Mobile network standby of 2 minutes with 5 hours off the charger suggests airplane mode was in use.
I don't care how much stuff you turn off in the background, there is no way you're getting a 2% loss from 5 hours of usage unless you used the phone for less than 30 minutes in those 5 hours.
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Ok crack on buddy. Lol
Suspicious, yes, but then again... I used to be able to run my old Moto G3 for two weeks on a single charge with just a bare-bones LOS, no gapps and nothing else in the background, so it doesn't seem THAT unreasonable.
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I turned nothing off. If I had I would have said so. What's the point in posting my findings then? I would be useless wouldn't it? I don't have time to play games and lead people around the bush. I'm not 12 years old anymore.
So just to satisfy your curiosity, I use my phone in exactly the same way I have always used it. Bluetooth off, Wifi and mobile data on, location on when I need it but off at the moment. All my apps work just the same as before including my banking app. The only thing I don't use now is Google Pay, and two of my apps with in app purchases are not registered. Apart from that it is exactly how it was before.
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off topic : what camera apps are you using with calyxOS on your phone ?
i tried the stock camera app that comes with it on dec build was so basic.
will graphene camera v. 10 work for you ? https://github.com/GrapheneOS/Camera/releases/tag/10
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off topic : what camera apps are you using with calyxOS on your phone ?
i tried the stock camera app that comes with it on dec build was so basic.
will graphene camera v. 10 work for you ? https://github.com/GrapheneOS/Camera/releases/tag/10
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I'm using the Google camera app and Google Photos as my gallery with all network access cut off for both.
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I'm using the Google camera app and Google Photos as my gallery with all network access cut off for both.
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which version of the GCam and GPhotos that work for you ? and are you on calyxos december build ?
thank you !
Today mine manager to drain 10% overnight stating Mobile network WITH AIRPLANE MODE ENABLED.
Yes, for me battery on this phone is bad too
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Today mine manager to drain 10% overnight stating Mobile network WITH AIRPLANE MODE ENABLED.
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. I have it for weeks and nothing changed. Did clean install in December. I have only maybe 20-25 apps.. mine 2 year old op7t was doing better with a lot smaller battery :/ and this screen touch issues that are reported i other topic have them too...If google won't repair this two big problems until April i thing i will say goodbye to Pixel...
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which version of the GCam and GPhotos that work for you ? and are you on calyxos december build ?
thank you !
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Not sure. The latest from the Play Store and whatever version is on Calyx website.