I apologize if this topic has been covered already, however I am not thoroughly acquainted with smartphones and most of the terminology associated with this topic I do not fully understand yet and am therefore unable to extract the information I need from existing forums. I have a Verizon Rezound that I want to use on the GCI prepaid network. I have followed the instructions in a Youtube video by click4geek called Use any Carrier with HTC Rezound (sorry new user, can't post links) and have also unlocked the bootloader via the HTC website. I now can use the phone over the GCI network for calls and text messaging. I have a twofold question: first, what do I do next--root the phone with a ROM (I read this is the best option for phone functionality and the overheating problem)??? If I do this which ROM would most fit my needs (basic user, just need phone calls, sms/mms messaging, and data)? And second, I have set two APN's via GCI protocol (one for data and one for MMS), the problem is I can access data yet I cannot send picture messages. Any thoughts? Thank you for your help!!!!
mdugger said:
I apologize if this topic has been covered already, however I am not thoroughly acquainted with smartphones and most of the terminology associated with this topic I do not fully understand yet and am therefore unable to extract the information I need from existing forums. I have a Verizon Rezound that I want to use on the GCI prepaid network. I have followed the instructions in a Youtube video by click4geek called Use any Carrier with HTC Rezound (sorry new user, can't post links) and have also unlocked the bootloader via the HTC website. I now can use the phone over the GCI network for calls and text messaging. I have a twofold question: first, what do I do next--root the phone with a ROM (I read this is the best option for phone functionality and the overheating problem)??? If I do this which ROM would most fit my needs (basic user, just need phone calls, sms/mms messaging, and data)? And second, I have set two APN's via GCI protocol (one for data and one for MMS), the problem is I can access data yet I cannot send picture messages. Any thoughts? Thank you for your help!!!!
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I can put some input on the ROM, and somewhat possibly on the APN.
First from what you've said, the over heating problem. That's just a known fact with the rezzy.. look on the bright side, you have a great hand warmer for winter! But, Plain-Andy, CM, or Liquid Smooth would probably suit your needs the best of hand. Do you have a custom recovery yet? You haven't gone S-OFF yet have you? So if you do flash a custom ROM, you will have to extract and flash the boot.img manually from the zip, unless otherwise stated in the OP of ROM.
APN, I don't know very much about.. But I know the rezound got global capabilities with the 4.0.3 ICS update, therefore, if you flash any ROM with the latest update, you should be able to apply them again, but I'm not sure if they would work...
Sent from my HTC One M8 Running Paranoid Android. S-OFF.
pball52998 said:
I can put some input on the ROM, and somewhat possibly on the APN.
First from what you've said, the over heating problem. That's just a known fact with the rezzy.. look on the bright side, you have a great hand warmer for winter! But, Plain-Andy, CM, or Liquid Smooth would probably suit your needs the best of hand. Do you have a custom recovery yet? You haven't gone S-OFF yet have you? So if you do flash a custom ROM, you will have to extract and flash the boot.img manually from the zip, unless otherwise stated in the OP of ROM.
APN, I don't know very much about.. But I know the rezound got global capabilities with the 4.0.3 ICS update, therefore, if you flash any ROM with the latest update, you should be able to apply them again, but I'm not sure if they would work...
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You're correct, I do not have a custom recovery or S-OFF. How would I go about doing those, and are they both necessary?
Thank you very much for your assistance!!!!
mdugger said:
You're correct, I do not have a custom recovery or S-OFF. How would I go about doing those, and are they both necessary?
Thank you very much for your assistance!!!!
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A custom recovery is needed to flash any ROM. Or just let alone any rooting/modding. If you have the boot loader unlocked, you should just be able to flash a recovery via fastboot using
fastboot flash recovery (name_of_recovery).img
S-OFF (turns off all security flags) can be achieved via rumrunner. http://rumrunner.us although. Its suggested by a couple of devs, mostly Snuzzo to have a minimum 3 or 4 flashes from fastboot. That's also known for boot images (kernels) and recoveries.
From a custom ROM with S-ON you have to flash the kernel from fastboot. Once you flash the zip in recovery, you have to extract the zip on your computer, but the boot.img needs to go into your fastboot folder. Then flash, similar to flashing the recovery but
fastboot flash boot (name of kernel).img
As for the APN thing though.. All I can say about that is, most AOSP ROMS support different services such as GSM and other companies. It'd probably be specific to the ROM that was flashed. Be helpful to possibly flash and ask OP.
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A custom recovery is needed to flash any ROM. Or just let alone any rooting/modding. If you have the boot loader unlocked, you should just be able to flash a recovery via fastboot using
fastboot flash recovery (name_of_recovery).img
S-OFF (turns off all security flags) can be achieved via rumrunner. although. Its suggested by a couple of devs, mostly Snuzzo to have a minimum 3 or 4 flashes from fastboot. That's also known for boot images (kernels) and recoveries.
From a custom ROM with S-ON you have to flash the kernel from fastboot. Once you flash the zip in recovery, you have to extract the zip on your computer, but the boot.img needs to go into your fastboot folder. Then flash, similar to flashing the recovery but
fastboot flash boot (name of kernel).img
As for the APN thing though.. All I can say about that is, most AOSP ROMS support different services such as GSM and other companies. It'd probably be specific to the ROM that was flashed. Be helpful to possibly flash and ask OP.
Sent from my HTC One M8 Running Paranoid Android. S-OFF.
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thank you for your help. I definitely need more though *sigh*. I followed the directions for "How to Root the HTC Rezound" on the unlockr website. It included flashing an Amon Ra Rezound recovery and installed a Superuser App on my phone. After I followed this guy's directions, I looked at the comments below the process and apparently Superuser and su apps don't work simultaneously on the Rezound and its apparently not rooted, according to the comments anyway. I think in order to flash a custom ROM I will need a "dummies" guide with all steps laid out for me (with S-on). Is there any such guide? Please excuse my naivety. I know it is very taxing explaining everything at an elementary level.
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thank you for your help. I definitely need more though *sigh*. I followed the directions for "How to Root the HTC Rezound" on the unlockr website. It included flashing an Amon Ra Rezound recovery and installed a Superuser App on my phone. After I followed this guy's directions, I looked at the comments below the process and apparently Superuser and su apps don't work simultaneously on the Rezound and its apparently not rooted, according to the comments anyway. I think in order to flash a custom ROM I will need a "dummies" guide with all steps laid out for me (with S-on). Is there any such guide? Please excuse my naivety. I know it is very taxing explaining everything at an elementary level.
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I wrote a giant 30 step guide once.... Let me see if I can find it. But one, you don't want amon ra recovery... That's for ICS. Newer ROMs need TWRP at least 2.6.X.X but preferred 2.7 or above
Edit: Aha! Found it! This has every single step, step by step. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51742399
Start at step 11,12 or 13. Can't really say lol. Or, read the whole post. That's about as clear as it gets. Literally lol
Feel free to ask if there is a misunderstanding.
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I wrote a giant 30 step guide once.... Let me see if I can find it. But one, you don't want amon ra recovery... That's for ICS. Newer ROMs need TWRP at least 2.6.X.X but preferred 2.7 or above
Edit: Aha! Found it! This has every single step, step by step. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51742399
Start at step 11,12 or 13. Can't really say lol. Or, read the whole post. That's about as clear as it gets. Literally lol
Feel free to ask if there is a misunderstanding.
Sent from my HTC One M8 Running Paranoid Android. S-OFF.
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Awesome!!! Thank you for your help!!! I'll let you know how it goes--if you hear a primal scream it may be me!!
Ok so I flashed both the CM and LiquidSmooth ROMS with success, but had no service with CM and had some service with LS, but couldn't send sms messages or get data. What did I do wrong?
pball52998 said:
I wrote a giant 30 step guide once.... Let me see if I can find it. But one, you don't want amon ra recovery... That's for ICS. Newer ROMs need TWRP at least 2.6.X.X but preferred 2.7 or above
Edit: Aha! Found it! This has every single step, step by step. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51742399
Start at step 11,12 or 13. Can't really say lol. Or, read the whole post. That's about as clear as it gets. Literally lol
Feel free to ask if there is a misunderstanding.
Sent from my HTC One M8 Running Paranoid Android. S-OFF.
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What hboot and radios are you using?
There are often a few steps to go through when using GSM on the Rezound... and they vary based on using stock ROM or third-party ROM. On stock ROMs you have to use a third party messaging app (Hangouts, Textra, Handcent, etc) to get MMS to work since the embedded messaging app is hard coded to Verizon MMS servers. In third party ROMs you sometimes have to do that, but often have to flash a GSM enabler to get data to work properly. Remember that the Rezound isn't tuned very well to GSM, especially if it is used on US carriers, so often Edge, and occasionally basic 3G/HSPA, service is the best you can get with great signal.
Your APNs could be an issue as well, remember you can only have one active, but it is based on APN type field... if you need a seperate MMS APN than used for data/internet, your default selected APN must not contain the MMS APN Type, it would be in a stand-alone one, and the MMS APN must not contain the default or internet APN types, and your MMS APN should be the only one with the MMS APN type.
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What hboot and radios are you using?
There are often a few steps to go through when using GSM on the Rezound... and they vary based on using stock ROM or third-party ROM. On stock ROMs you have to use a third party messaging app (Hangouts, Textra, Handcent, etc) to get MMS to work since the embedded messaging app is hard coded to Verizon MMS servers. In third party ROMs you sometimes have to do that, but often have to flash a GSM enabler to get data to work properly. Remember that the Rezound isn't tuned very well to GSM, especially if it is used on US carriers, so often Edge, and occasionally basic 3G/HSPA, service is the best you can get with great signal.
Your APNs could be an issue as well, remember you can only have one active, but it is based on APN type field... if you need a seperate MMS APN than used for data/internet, your default selected APN must not contain the MMS APN Type, it would be in a stand-alone one, and the MMS APN must not contain the default or internet APN types, and your MMS APN should be the only one with the MMS APN type.
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How do I tell what radios and hboot I'm using?
I flashed a GSM patch I found on the LiquidSmooth ROM page but must have done it wrong because after I flashed it it lit up the backlight in the phone when it rebooted and just had a black screen for a long time. I Tried to just recover through TWRP but the phone continually got stuck on the 4G page on the reboot. So did I do the custom recovery wrong? I'm thinking I'm stuck flashing a custom ROM now and can't restore my phone. What is my best course of action? I love the custom ROMS but if I cannot even get service then that defeats the point of having the phone.
I do have to have 2 APN's, and the default (data) does not contain MMS APN in the Type field, it says default. And the MMS APN Type is "MMS".
Thank you!!!!
mdugger said:
How do I tell what radios and hboot I'm using?
I flashed a GSM patch I found on the LiquidSmooth ROM page but must have done it wrong because after I flashed it it lit up the backlight in the phone when it rebooted and just had a black screen for a long time. I Tried to just recover through TWRP but the phone continually got stuck on the 4G page on the reboot. So did I do the custom recovery wrong? I'm thinking I'm stuck flashing a custom ROM now and can't restore my phone. What is my best course of action? I love the custom ROMS but if I cannot even get service then that defeats the point of having the phone.
I do have to have 2 APN's, and the default (data) does not contain MMS APN in the Type field, it says default. And the MMS APN Type is "MMS".
Thank you!!!!
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Remove battery and reinsert, power up holding VOL DN + POWER... that screen is the Hboot screen, at the top is listed Hboot version, radios, and other pertinent data.
I haven't messed with ROMs in some time on the Rezound, I don't even own one anymore... but the Rez is picky, some ROMs work well on some handsets, and others do not... I am surprised that the GSM patch would bootloop LS, there isn't really much you can do wrong if you are using the current TWRP, just flash and wipe cache and dalvik, reboot and wait. What recovery and version are you using (start it and it should show at the top of the screen). You could also try one of @sun_dream ROM's, his are pretty much exclusive to GSM users. What carrier and frequencies are we talking about here would be good info as well...
2 APNs are fine, although all APN types should be lower case, not sure if that would cause an issue or you just listed it that way in your message... Linux/Android is case sensitive for most things, Camera is different than camera.
I will say again that Rezound is a finicky GSM phone, things have to be just right... some people can get it to work with marginal success, but only a select few people can get it working "great", and with other devices being relatively cheap like the Doogee Voyager, Posh, and Sharkk with 5" screens, 1GB RAM, dual SIMs, and quad core processors being available for well under $100, and some devices, like the Blu Dash, for under $60 it makes little sense to push the Rezound too much even as a backup device. Are you located in the US? The Rezound can easily be sold for less than the cost of many of these devices to people with broken devices stuck in a contract with Verizon, I have seen ones in good condition sell for $100-$130, putting you in the realm of really pretty decent GSM phones like the BLU Studio 5.0 C HD for $130, it is a top rated budget phone.
Sorry I got off on a ramble there... I am not trying to sway you from trying to get it working, you might be able too, just don't set your expectations too high, the Rezound is a great device on Verizon... on GSM carriers not so much... I will continue to try to help you as much as I can .
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Remove battery and reinsert, power up holding VOL DN + POWER... that screen is the Hboot screen, at the top is listed Hboot version, radios, and other pertinent data.
I haven't messed with ROMs in some time on the Rezound, I don't even own one anymore... but the Rez is picky, some ROMs work well on some handsets, and others do not... I am surprised that the GSM patch would bootloop LS, there isn't really much you can do wrong if you are using the current TWRP, just flash and wipe cache and dalvik, reboot and wait. What recovery and version are you using (start it and it should show at the top of the screen). You could also try one of @sun_dream ROM's, his are pretty much exclusive to GSM users. What carrier and frequencies are we talking about here would be good info as well...
2 APNs are fine, although all APN types should be lower case, not sure if that would cause an issue or you just listed it that way in your message... Linux/Android is case sensitive for most things, Camera is different than camera.
I will say again that Rezound is a finicky GSM phone, things have to be just right... some people can get it to work with marginal success, but only a select few people can get it working "great", and with other devices being relatively cheap like the Doogee Voyager, Posh, and Sharkk with 5" screens, 1GB RAM, dual SIMs, and quad core processors being available for well under $100, and some devices, like the Blu Dash, for under $60 it makes little sense to push the Rezound too much even as a backup device. Are you located in the US? The Rezound can easily be sold for less than the cost of many of these devices to people with broken devices stuck in a contract with Verizon, I have seen ones in good condition sell for $100-$130, putting you in the realm of really pretty decent GSM phones like the BLU Studio 5.0 C HD for $130, it is a top rated budget phone.
Sorry I got off on a ramble there... I am not trying to sway you from trying to get it working, you might be able too, just don't set your expectations too high, the Rezound is a great device on Verizon... on GSM carriers not so much... I will continue to try to help you as much as I can .
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No problem on the ramble I have had a budget phone but the camera on the Rezound is much much better, and that's the main reason I have a smartphone to begin with. Here's the specs you requested in your earlier post:
VIGOR PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.27.0000
RADIO-2.22.10.0801r/2.22.10.0803r
OpenDSP-v14.6.0.7708.00.0507
eMMC-boot
Aug 6 2012, 19:24:37
Team Win Recovery Project v2.8.1.0
GCI Communications in Alaska, prepaid SIM I believe is 3G
I do have data access on LS, but the service is worse than I had with the stock ROM, and I still cannot send SMS or MMS. I had to leave the house to get it. I will try flashing the GSM fix again, and there is a build.prop fix that I apparently overlooked in the LS postings. If that doesn't work then looks like I'm on to a different ROM. Does it sound like my recovery is just shot, since it won't go past the "4G" boot screen?
Thanks again! You are the Rezound dictionary I've been needing!!!
mdugger said:
GCI Communications in Alaska, prepaid SIM I believe is 3G
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I'll look at the other stuff in a bit, at work, I'll reply in the morning, we probably need to try to upgrade radios but I gotta do some research that I can't ATM...
But is this a AT&T or Tmo MVNO, or an independent?
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I'll look at the other stuff in a bit, at work, I'll reply in the morning, we probably need to try to upgrade radios but I gotta do some research that I can't ATM...
But is this a AT&T or Tmo MVNO, or an independent?
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As far as I know, an independent, as AT&T has it's own towers up here in AK.
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As far as I know, an independent, as AT&T has it's own towers up here in AK.
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I may be wrong, but it looks like GCI operates it's HSPA and LTE networks in the AWS spectrum... 1700/2100 MHz Band 4, similar to T-mobile, the Rezound does not support that frequency band in hardware, meaning you may only get 2G/Edge.
It is really tough to find any specifics though, I will have to look at their FCC filings, what market area are you in?
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I may be wrong, but it looks like GCI operates it's HSPA and LTE networks in the AWS spectrum... 1700/2100 MHz Band 4, similar to T-mobile, the Rezound does not support that frequency band in hardware, meaning you may only get 2G/Edge.
It is really tough to find any specifics though, I will have to look at their FCC filings, what market area are you in?
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So I would only be able to get 2G/Edge no matter what ROM or RUU I could flash? How does this affect the fact that I can't receive SMS or MMS on LS but I can on ICS stock? Or does it? I'm in the Matanuska-Susitna Valley area: Palmer, Wasilla, Houston, Big Lake area.
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So I would only be able to get 2G/Edge no matter what ROM or RUU I could flash? How does this affect the fact that I can't receive SMS or MMS on LS but I can on ICS stock? Or does it? I'm in the Matanuska-Susitna Valley area: Palmer, Wasilla, Houston, Big Lake area.
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It appears that way, I will have to look at the FCC filings for GCI in that area and see if they support any other frequency ranges. I don't know about their prepaid plans, but the postpaid seems to have some kind of roaming agreement with AT&T. It's pretty uncommon for prepaid to have roaming capabilities though. I'll look into it more in the morning.
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Looked into it a little more this morning, doesn't look good for the Rezound on GCI
It appears they have:
1900Mhz for Voice/Text (GSM/GPRS) and 2G/Edge data - supported by Rezound
1900Mhz for UMTS (3G/WCDMA) data - Technically supported by the Rezound, but it is known not to work in the US
1700/2100Mhz AWS for HSPA/HSPA+ - NOT supported by Rezound
1700/2100Mhz AWS Band 4 for LTE - NOT supported by Rezound
The Rezound is known to support:
CDMA: 800/1900 Mhz (Verizon Voice/3G EVDO network)
GSM/GPRS: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA(UMTS): 900/1800 MHz (850/1900Mhz have been "detuned" from chipset)
HSPA: 900/2100 MHz
LTE: 700 MHz (Band 13 only)
To be honest, information on GCI's wireless network is tough to come by, and their FCC filings are very broad ranging for a wide variety of technologies, not very specific at all. Their website mentions BYOD (Bring Your Own Device) in a few places but gives no specifics, FAQ, or other information on what frequencies are supported. Frankly I am a little stumped on finding out more information.
It appears that anything over basic GSM or UMTS speeds requires a device that supports the AWS spectrum, which the Rezound does not, and even that information is sketchy as although UMTS seems to be supported by GCI at 1900Mhz, which the Rezound "technically" supports, the 1900Mhz band for UMTS/WCDMA and HSPA is known to be "detuned" in the Rezound... to a point where you basically have to be sitting on the tower to get minimal service. Whether this was an oversight by HTC and Verizon, or a deliberate plan to prevent the device from being switched to another US carrier since 1900Mhz data is only used in the US, has been a hotly debated issue.
So what this all boils down to it that you should be able to get voice, text, and minimal data services including MMS, working on the Rezound with GCI, but your service will be extremely slow... 2G/Edge in GSM networks usually run from 120Kbps to 384Kbps, and that is probably the best you will get with the Rezound on GCI.
Sorry I don't have better news for you.
Don't apologize!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm grateful for the research and the time you put into helping me!!!!!! If you were in my shoes and stuck with the rezound then would you go back to stock via http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509770 (since SMS/voice/data at least worked with ICS), try different 3rd party ROMS until I find one that works with SMS/MMS/voice and data (in hopes of finding a better OS) or try to find a fix for my TWRP recovery-gone-wrong?
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Looked into it a little more this morning, doesn't look good for the Rezound on GCI
It appears they have:
1900Mhz for Voice/Text (GSM/GPRS) and 2G/Edge data - supported by Rezound
1900Mhz for UMTS (3G/WCDMA) data - Technically supported by the Rezound, but it is known not to work in the US
1700/2100Mhz AWS for HSPA/HSPA+ - NOT supported by Rezound
1700/2100Mhz AWS Band 4 for LTE - NOT supported by Rezound
The Rezound is known to support:
CDMA: 800/1900 Mhz (Verizon Voice/3G EVDO network)
GSM/GPRS: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA(UMTS): 900/1800 MHz (850/1900Mhz have been "detuned" from chipset)
HSPA: 900/2100 MHz
LTE: 700 MHz (Band 13 only)
To be honest, information on GCI's wireless network is tough to come by, and their FCC filings are very broad ranging for a wide variety of technologies, not very specific at all. Their website mentions BYOD (Bring Your Own Device) in a few places but gives no specifics, FAQ, or other information on what frequencies are supported. Frankly I am a little stumped on finding out more information.
It appears that anything over basic GSM or UMTS speeds requires a device that supports the AWS spectrum, which the Rezound does not, and even that information is sketchy as although UMTS seems to be supported by GCI at 1900Mhz, which the Rezound "technically" supports, the 1900Mhz band for UMTS/WCDMA and HSPA is known to be "detuned" in the Rezound... to a point where you basically have to be sitting on the tower to get minimal service. Whether this was an oversight by HTC and Verizon, or a deliberate plan to prevent the device from being switched to another US carrier since 1900Mhz data is only used in the US, has been a hotly debated issue.
So what this all boils down to it that you should be able to get voice, text, and minimal data services including MMS, working on the Rezound with GCI, but your service will be extremely slow... 2G/Edge in GSM networks usually run from 120Kbps to 384Kbps, and that is probably the best you will get with the Rezound on GCI.
Sorry I don't have better news for you.
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mdugger said:
Don't apologize!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm grateful for the research and the time you put into helping me!!!!!! If you were in my shoes and stuck with the rezound then would you go back to stock via http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509770 (since SMS/voice/data at least worked with ICS), try different 3rd party ROMS until I find one that works with SMS/MMS/voice and data (in hopes of finding a better OS) or try to find a fix for my TWRP recovery-gone-wrong?
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I would flash a custom ROM, then go s-off, then go through that procedure. You have to be s-off before you can do that. Honestly, if it was me and I needed to use GCI I would restore to stock and sell it, to be honest the Rezound camera on anything but stock is just marginal by today's standards. On sense roms the camera is much better
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Hey all!
Sorry if this has been asked before (I've seen posts about it but no straight answers on the issue).
I have a brand new T-Mobile Amaze and a brand new Wind Mobile Amaze. Long story about why!
I can't decide which to keep. I like the fact that Winds is unbranded. I would probably like to use the wifi calling feature on the T-Mobile one when I visit the US (I spend 5 months in the US and the rest of the year in Canada). I don't think I want to root this phone....am undecided right now. The thing that bothers me though, is the camera program on the Wind Mobile version. It's completely different and I like the T-Mobile one better. If I DID decide to root, could I get the T-mobile camera on the Wind one? And then, how would wifi calling work?
Sorry, I'm a newb who is not savvy about any of this stuff....
Any help would be appreciated
Also, I read something a while back, that the bands are different between the two versions. Is this true?
Thanks in advance! CHEERS!
I'm no pro and please correct me anyone if i'm wrong but yes. the bands are different, which is why there are different RUU's for the telus, tmos, wind etc amazes.
I'm pretty sure if you kept your wind mobile one and then followed the procedure to root the device, you'll be able to use the ROM's that we have on XDA and then in my opinion that would give you the camera from the T-mobile one (most likely unless it's been changed) - but yeah don't hold me 100% accountable for this.
You can flash a T-Mobile based ROM onto the WIND's Amaze. With this, you will get the camera interface from the T-Mobile Amaze. I'm not sure about WiFi calling since I never use it - actually I don't even know if WIND has WiFi calling on their network.
Keep the t mobile one, wind one is not yet compatible with the kernels supplied by custom ROMs for now. Means anything with faux kernel
I know it says compatible with all the htc amaze on the kernel page but it is not for the Wind
Thanks for the replies
Hmmmm, I may think about rooting after all....I am looking at both the T-Mobile and the Wind site....
T-Mobile Amaze:
850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100);UMTS: Band V (850)
Wind Amaze:
3G (UMTS/HSPA) AWS 1700/2100 2G (GSM/GPRS/EDGE) 850/1900/900/1800
They look like the same bands to me. (??) I really like the unbranded Wind one. I'm not sure if I would ever use wifi calling when I had the phone in the US. Could I potentially add the T-Mobile wifi calling to a rooted Wind Amaze do you think?
Thanks so much once again. Sorry for the dummy questions....!
Wind's Amaze bands are (from the box, and I have verified that I could connect to both T-mobile and AT&T bands while in the states):
HSPA 850/1700/1900/2100.
GSM 850/900/1800/1900.
Kernels from Faux do work on the Wind Amaze (at least, they did for me when I was running custom).
morrislee said:
Keep the t mobile one, wind one is not yet compatible with the kernels supplied by custom ROMs for now. Means anything with faux kernel
I know it says compatible with all the htc amaze on the kernel page but it is not for the Wind
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Ohhh I had no idea....
Well I guess that makes things easier for me
Thanks everyone once again!
morrislee said:
Keep the t mobile one, wind one is not yet compatible with the kernels supplied by custom ROMs for now. Means anything with faux kernel
I know it says compatible with all the htc amaze on the kernel page but it is not for the Wind
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I don't know what you're talking about, but Faux kernel works fine with my WIND Amaze.
adslee said:
I don't know what you're talking about, but Faux kernel works fine with my WIND Amaze.
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Your videos work fine after? camera still work???? maybe you have a slightly different variant, but recent batch seems to be incompatible.
Hmmm, now I REALLY don't know what to do! I guess I will keep the T-Mobile one since I have already been tinkering with it...that keeps the Wind Mobile one brand new so I can resell it! I suppose I can be a girly girl and put some swarovski crytals over the darned T-Mobile branding!
Now, next step is to find out how to get the wifi hotspot working. Have been reading up on this. May be easier just to root it.
If I unlock it and use it on Wind, would the wifi hotspot work without rooting it?
Thanks again everyone
if i was you i would keep the wind one ... why? because the tmobile branding is a HUGE turnoff when you are looking at your screen (sorry americans!) They are generally the same device just with no branding, you could push an apk to your system folder or apps cant remember and it should work as long as you have a t-mobile sim card. In canada we do not have wifi calling so it wouldnt working here (duh!) Good luck with your pick! what i would suggest be the breaking point is check if either device has S-OFF if it does you could sell it to a developer (possible a little cheaper so they can start making roms and try to achieve s-off in all other devices.) Good luck with your pick, basically theyre both the same device.
ed116 said:
if i was you i would keep the wind one ... why? because the tmobile branding is a HUGE turnoff when you are looking at your screen (sorry americans!) They are generally the same device just with no branding, you could push an apk to your system folder or apps cant remember and it should work as long as you have a t-mobile sim card. In canada we do not have wifi calling so it wouldnt working here (duh!) Good luck with your pick! what i would suggest be the breaking point is check if either device has S-OFF if it does you could sell it to a developer (possible a little cheaper so they can start making roms and try to achieve s-off in all other devices.) Good luck with your pick, basically theyre both the same device.
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Heya!
Ok, so they are the same device exactly....hmmm. So, wifi calling isn't as a big deal as the camera software. I want to make sure I could for SURE have the T-Mobile Camera on the Wind phone. And if I root the Wind one, I am assuming the start up animation can be changed. The Wind one is lame. T-Mobile one is much better;-)
I am not sure what S-Off is....but can you tell me how to check for that?
Thanks a bunch!
starspun said:
Heya!
Ok, so they are the same device exactly....hmmm. So, wifi calling isn't as a big deal as the camera software. I want to make sure I could for SURE have the T-Mobile Camera on the Wind phone. And if I root the Wind one, I am assuming the start up animation can be changed. The Wind one is lame. T-Mobile one is much better;-)
I am not sure what S-Off is....but can you tell me how to check for that?
Thanks a bunch!
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you have to boot into bootloader (by removing battery then - pressing volume down and holding it down and then press power button (you should keep pressing both power + volume until you get into bootloader.) if you install a custom rom like bulletproof or sense 3.5 you will get The new Camera APK and bulletproof has wifi calling included good luck!
I don't know why people keep saying that T-Mobile and Wind are different bands.
You do realize that the reason why Wind doesn't get different phones from T-Mobile is because they use the same bands, right?
If the phone doesn't work on T-Mobile's standard 3g+ network (AWS) it won't work on Wind, and vice-versa.
The only thing you need to worry about it is it being sim-unlocked.
The different RUUs only exist because of carrier customization and locking. Wind's Amaze RUU is pretty much stock without the extra bloat of T-Mobile Apps. But of course, the T-Mobile RUU also has the updated camera function, unlike Wind's.
Also, that's the first I've heard about Wind Amaze's having problems with faux's kernel. FYI my Wind Amaze's camera works fine on faux's latest kernel and NRG's Energy ROM (and xboarder's when I used his). However, mine was manufactured in November, so YMMV.
Actually youre a bit wrong on that, T-Mobile does support 2G network so any phone with 2G bands (such as iphone or galaxy note) will work on T-Mobile Network with 2G Internet Speeds. And the RUUs are made for the carrier specific device so if you want to revert stock always use ur own carriers RUU!
I know, that's why I mentioned the standard 3g+ AWS network. If it doesn't work on the 3g network on T-mobile, it won't work on Wind's Home network which uses the same 1700/2100 band (also why people tend to buy T-mobile phones and use them on Wind's network).
And yes, reverting to stock using the same RUU is a good idea. However, from my experience with Motorola's SBFs, they are interchangable among the same device. Because Wind didn't have a publicly leaked SBF, we've been using other carrier's SBFs without problems when reverting to "near" stock.
Raydonn said:
I know, that's why I mentioned the standard 3g+ AWS network. If it doesn't work on the 3g network on T-mobile, it won't work on Wind's Home network which uses the same 1700/2100 band (also why people tend to buy T-mobile phones and use them on Wind's network).
And yes, reverting to stock using the same RUU is a good idea. However, from my experience with Motorola's SBFs, they are interchangable among the same device. Because Wind didn't have a publicly leaked SBF, we've been using other carrier's SBFs without problems when reverting to "near" stock.
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Ahh... another unsatisfied XT720 user. ;p
Accophox said:
Ahh... another unsatisfied XT720 user. ;p
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Hohoho, you've caught me. (So many random freezes/battery pulls)
Now I'm a mostly satisfied Amaze user. Just need to wait for those new ICS ROMs.
Also, quick reading for those who are still confused about radio bands / if it will work on your network.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...ne-Will-Work-With-WIND-(or-Any-Other-Carrier)
i still dont know why tmobile version is the only one that have all those camera features, the wind version of the Amaze have the old camera UI like the sensation does, but im sure there should be a flashable zip for the camera like tmobile amaze version is.
anyone that had the sensation 4g knows what im talking about
i dont know if the same flash zip file from the sensation works or not, im not a pro but i figure it wont cause its made to work with the sensation,
another thing guys, they have a blueray feature for the camera when recording, you guys think it can be port over to the amaze?
If you rooted your phone, I have the tmo camera apk for you.
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using xda premium
I thought I'd post this since I spent the last few days trying to get Rezound working with GSM and did not easily find this simple solution until now.
The stock ROM RUU 4.03.605.2 adds an option under Network Settings for "GSM / UMTS".
The phone is factory SIM unlocked and works with the Straight Talk SIM card without any problems. The only thing I had to do was to configure the APN settings according to the Straight Talk documentation. Voice, SMS, Data, etc. are all working fine on this phone.
The only Caveat is the "SIM card is from an unknown source" message that appears on the lock screen, but that does not otherwise affect the functionality of the phone.
I downloaded the RUU 4.03.605.2 from the Android Police website. The ROM is zipped and must be installed by copying it to the root of the SD as PH98IMG.ZIP. NOTE: The Zip file shows up as corrupt under windows. This is normal as the ROM/Zipfile is encrypted. The Rezound will be able to install the file. It takes about 15 minutes for the flash to complete. It does it in 2 or 3 cycles/reboots.
Note that since this is a stock rom, I set my phone to S-ON and LOCKED before I installed.
Rezound on Straight Talk (AT&T network), unlimited talk, text, ~2GB of data, $45/mon !
Plus it's a very nice phone!
So, is this a guide?
Because it really doesn't tell us anything we don't know.
ubiquityman, what are the data speeds you are seeing on straight talk? (screenshot?). I've been flirting with this idea for a while now, and if you can confirm at least HSPA+ speeds on the AT&T sim, I'm going for it.
Speeds
dustintheweb,
Where I live, I'm on the edge of the 4G (HPSA+). Speedtest shows 171kbps down and 265kbps up, so looks like HPSA only. I'm not in a large metropolitan area, but next time I'm closer to the center of town, I'll run the test against to see if I get a different result.
Verizon coverage is better where I live and they are supposed to have limited 4G coverage near my area, and I'll likely be moving my line over to Pageplus in a month or two, althought I understand 4G won't be supported. (I have to purchase CDMA Workshop first so that I can do the required edits to the phone settings for Pageplus).
greythewolf,
I was looking for this information but couldn't find here. I tried about half a dozen custom ROMs but couldn't get any of them to work 100%. I wasn't sure if this was my fault, Straight Talk's issue, or the ROM. Incoming messages would work but outgoing messages wouldn't. Anyways, I was delighted to find the stock rom worked, after spending hours and hours trying numerous ROMs. So, if I'm the last one to the party, sorry about that. I was just hoping to save someone else the time I wasted in previous efforts.
Thanks! I have tried searching through the forums and I've seen where Straight Talk SHOULD work and where people have tried and have had various issues. I am seriously considering this switch. Although I am loving GrayTheWolf's CM9 right now, I'd gladly switch back to stock if it means a fully functional phone on Straight Talk.
HSPA ?
This thread suggest HSPA+ works with Rezound.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914122
Based on the status information on my phone, I've only been able to get Edge thus far, however, there's a high probability this issue is due to my locale.
What all settings exactly did you use? I installed that file from android police and set apn settings according to ST's info but still no data. I can send texts. Didn't try mms or voice.
EDIT: After rebooting the phone again and checking the APN settings most were still set except it changed the apn to vzwinternet. Changed back to att.mvno and seem to have edge working now. Voice, SMS, and EDGE data working. No 3G or MMS.
ubiquityman said:
I thought I'd post this since I spent the last few days trying to get Rezound working with GSM and did not easily find this simple solution until now.
The stock ROM RUU 4.03.605.2 adds an option under Network Settings for "GSM / UMTS".
The phone is factory SIM unlocked and works with the Straight Talk SIM card without any problems. The only thing I had to do was to configure the APN settings according to the Straight Talk documentation. Voice, SMS, Data, etc. are all working fine on this phone.
The only Caveat is the "SIM card is from an unknown source" message that appears on the lock screen, but that does not otherwise affect the functionality of the phone.
I downloaded the RUU 4.03.605.2 from the Android Police website. The ROM is zipped and must be installed by copying it to the root of the SD as PH98IMG.ZIP. NOTE: The Zip file shows up as corrupt under windows. This is normal as the ROM/Zipfile is encrypted. The Rezound will be able to install the file. It takes about 15 minutes for the flash to complete. It does it in 2 or 3 cycles/reboots.
Note that since this is a stock rom, I set my phone to S-ON and LOCKED before I installed.
Rezound on Straight Talk (AT&T network), unlimited talk, text, ~2GB of data, $45/mon !
Plus it's a very nice phone!
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If you wanted a slightly themed stock with some 4.0 tweaks on gsm here's the best I've ran so far http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508118 and to remove the unknown sim is an easy fix also here's the link to that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923416 enjoy the best of both worlds! btw I'm on Simple Mobile (T-Mobile) gsm and it's $50 unlimmited everything on edge also but it'll work until something better comes along and it will
Sent from A paperclipped Rezound using Tapatalk 2
APN settings?
I have the Rezound and much like you, would like to use it on AT&T Straight Talk simcard. You mention the apn setting just have to be adjusted. Well I used the APN settings on the their support page for the AT&T sim and I can't for the life of me, get this baby to get on the data. Is there something else I should look into?
ubiquityman said:
I thought I'd post this since I spent the last few days trying to get Rezound working with GSM and did not easily find this simple solution until now.
The stock ROM RUU 4.03.605.2 adds an option under Network Settings for "GSM / UMTS".
The phone is factory SIM unlocked and works with the Straight Talk SIM card without any problems. The only thing I had to do was to configure the APN settings according to the Straight Talk documentation. Voice, SMS, Data, etc. are all working fine on this phone.
The only Caveat is the "SIM card is from an unknown source" message that appears on the lock screen, but that does not otherwise affect the functionality of the phone.
I downloaded the RUU 4.03.605.2 from the Android Police website. The ROM is zipped and must be installed by copying it to the root of the SD as PH98IMG.ZIP. NOTE: The Zip file shows up as corrupt under windows. This is normal as the ROM/Zipfile is encrypted. The Rezound will be able to install the file. It takes about 15 minutes for the flash to complete. It does it in 2 or 3 cycles/reboots.
Note that since this is a stock rom, I set my phone to S-ON and LOCKED before I installed.
Rezound on Straight Talk (AT&T network), unlimited talk, text, ~2GB of data, $45/mon !
Plus it's a very nice phone!
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GrayTheWolf said:
So, is this a guide?
Because it really doesn't tell us anything we don't know.
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Do you really have to grief the guy for sharing something he thought was useful? This is what keeps the community from growing and why our device has a bad rep. If you already knew the info he was sharing, move along unless you want to add something productive to the conversation.
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I can confirm the rezound works on straight talk with hspa. Its what my wife uses. I had to edit the radio band but since I did that it works great. Before I edited the band I could only get edge reception and the spot I lived the reception was horrible. After editing the band it pulled much better reception. PM if anybody needs help doing this
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raymond36136 said:
I can confirm the rezound works on straight talk with hspa. Its what my wife uses. I had to edit the radio band but since I did that it works great. Before I edited the band I could only get edge reception and the spot I lived the reception was horrible. After editing the band it pulled much better reception. PM if anybody needs help doing this
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda app-developers app
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thanks will try it but i am on simple mobile. has anyone had better luck with that? is straight talk or net10 on att better with the rezound. i hate the edge speeds....
How were u able to get gsm mode to work? Mine wont get any signal...
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irtehun said:
How were u able to get gsm mode to work? Mine wont get any signal...
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2
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i installed the leaked global rom from android police site. you can change network mode to gsm/umts or leave it as global. Once the initial setup by straight talk takes place usually 20 minutes just reboot and select apn that you created.
rezoundness said:
i installed the leaked global rom from android police site. you can change network mode to gsm/umts or leave it as global. Once the initial setup by straight talk takes place usually 20 minutes just reboot and select apn that you created.
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Ok. Sounds easy enough.
Once I put my att sim card in, it just has a x over the signal bars. Im not getting signal, im on this global ruu, please help!
I'm using Rezound on PTel now. But as u said, "SIM card is from an unknown source" still bothers me a lot.
Have you found a solution now?
Thanks in advance.
ubiquityman said:
I thought I'd post this since I spent the last few days trying to get Rezound working with GSM and did not easily find this simple solution until now.
The stock ROM RUU 4.03.605.2 adds an option under Network Settings for "GSM / UMTS".
The phone is factory SIM unlocked and works with the Straight Talk SIM card without any problems. The only thing I had to do was to configure the APN settings according to the Straight Talk documentation. Voice, SMS, Data, etc. are all working fine on this phone.
The only Caveat is the "SIM card is from an unknown source" message that appears on the lock screen, but that does not otherwise affect the functionality of the phone.
I downloaded the RUU 4.03.605.2 from the Android Police website. The ROM is zipped and must be installed by copying it to the root of the SD as PH98IMG.ZIP. NOTE: The Zip file shows up as corrupt under windows. This is normal as the ROM/Zipfile is encrypted. The Rezound will be able to install the file. It takes about 15 minutes for the flash to complete. It does it in 2 or 3 cycles/reboots.
Note that since this is a stock rom, I set my phone to S-ON and LOCKED before I installed.
Rezound on Straight Talk (AT&T network), unlimited talk, text, ~2GB of data, $45/mon !
Plus it's a very nice phone!
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Hi,
I am having a problem with the network. I am currently using Idea mobile network and when I use WCDMA only option, I do not get any signals and also, when I am trying to use an aircel sim, I do not get any signals at all... is there any problem with the device?.. when I search for networks manually, I am able to see only airtel and idea in the list of networks... is amaze not compatible with vodafone or aircel or the various networks available....
When I try to use Data connection also, it is only connecting in 2g mode and not 3g... plz help.
gmm8877 said:
Hi,
I am having a problem with the network. I am currently using Idea mobile network and when I use WCDMA only option, I do not get any signals and also, when I am trying to use an aircel sim, I do not get any signals at all... is there any problem with the device?.. when I search for networks manually, I am able to see only airtel and idea in the list of networks... is amaze not compatible with vodafone or aircel or the various networks available....
When I try to use Data connection also, it is only connecting in 2g mode and not 3g... plz help.
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Amaze is compatible with frequencies:
GSM:
850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS:
850, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz
Data:
HSDPA+ (4G) 42.2 Mbit/s, UMTS, EDGE
Have you had ANY phone work on the idea network properly? Same with the airtel?
For starters, switch from WCDMA only to Auto or GSM/WCDMA.
See what this post recommends:
http://support.t-mobile.com/message/120750#120750
pbergonzi said:
Amaze is compatible with frequencies:
GSM:
850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS:
850, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz
Data:
HSDPA+ (4G) 42.2 Mbit/s, UMTS, EDGE
Have you had ANY phone work on the idea network properly? Same with the airtel?
For starters, switch from WCDMA only to Auto or GSM/WCDMA.
See what this post recommends:
http://support.t-mobile.com/message/120750#120750
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Yes, my other mobile which is Xperia Pro (MK16i) works fine with all the networks here in India...but i do not understand why Amaze is not working on 3g network while I am able to use 2g service (both data and calls) on the same network...
data
How about ask your local service person for the correct settings, or hopefully someone on this board who lives in your area can post theirs.
Is there an OTA specific to your phone?
While not the case with you currently, it may be important if you travel--there are some areas where certain carriers don't have that coverage:
http://support.chinavasion.com/index.php?_a=viewarticle&_m=knowledgebase&kbarticleid=227
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Plz friends can anyone help me with this... the aircel operating frequencies for 2g and 3g are 1800 and 2100 (my assumption)... the device is not at all working with an aircel connection (not even on 2g)... I am currently using idea network which is working fine with 2g but not 3g... when I try to search for available networks manually also, I am able to see 2G networks for idea, airtel, vodafone, and bsnl (aircel and some others again missing) and no networks at all when in wcdma only mode... when I switch to wcdma only, the idea network also vanishes completely....
I am not able to figure out what to do with this...
There are many Indians in amaze forum and former members, reach out to them and see if any one of them used your carrier, and see if they had the same issues or not
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
gmm8877 said:
Plz friends can anyone help me with this... the aircel operating frequencies for 2g and 3g are 1800 and 2100 (my assumption)... the device is not at all working with an aircel connection (not even on 2g)... I am currently using idea network which is working fine with 2g but not 3g... when I try to search for available networks manually also, I am able to see 2G networks for idea, airtel, vodafone, and bsnl (aircel and some others again missing) and no networks at all when in wcdma only mode... when I switch to wcdma only, the idea network also vanishes completely....
I am not able to figure out what to do with this...
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Aircel uses 900 and in some places possibly 1800. Do you have a data plan? Have you spoken with a support person with any one of your carriers--they're used to things like this and getting in the proper settings. I would strongly recommend that.
Check the Settings->About Phone to find out which version of android you have, and if you are running a custom ROM or not.
Do all of that first--make sure you have a data plan, speak with a support person, find out a little about your phone.
If you are stock check with your support person if there is an upgrade for you, also.
If you are NOT stock, you might want to go back to the Stock GB or ICS (remember to update the radio also) so your phone will be basic and stable, to be sure it will work at all with data. Once you've determined if it will work with data, then you can try one of the custom ROMs if you like, but NOT JellyBean or KitKat, as they are all problematic.
Check this post for instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2167596
And as ravike14 said, "There are many Indians in amaze forum and former members, reach out to them and see if any one of them used your carrier, and see if they had the same issues or not."
I have a data plan activated...I have not done any change in software...the current version is 4.0.3..and aircel network is not at all working on my device..that y using Idea network (that too working only in 2g mode)...I cannot have support on the device as I purchased it online from someone else...and it is not a device which is for India... it is a T-mobile device..Do you this change of ROM will resolve this or will it still remain the same... can there be a problem with the antenna (but 2g network is working fine)....
pbergonzi said:
Aircel uses 900 and in some places possibly 1800. Do you have a data plan? Have you spoken with a support person with any one of your carriers--they're used to things like this and getting in the proper settings. I would strongly recommend that.
Check the Settings->About Phone to find out which version of android you have, and if you are running a custom ROM or not.
Do all of that first--make sure you have a data plan, speak with a support person, find out a little about your phone.
If you are stock check with your support person if there is an upgrade for you, also.
If you are NOT stock, you might want to go back to the Stock GB or ICS (remember to update the radio also) so your phone will be basic and stable, to be sure it will work at all with data. Once you've determined if it will work with data, then you can try one of the custom ROMs if you like, but NOT JellyBean or KitKat, as they are all problematic.
Check this post for instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2167596
And as ravike14 said, "There are many Indians in amaze forum and former members, reach out to them and see if any one of them used your carrier, and see if they had the same issues or not."
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gmm8877 said:
I have a data plan activated...I have not done any change in software...the current version is 4.0.3..and aircel network is not at all working on my device..that y using Idea network (that too working only in 2g mode)...I cannot have support on the device as I purchased it online from someone else...and it is not a device which is for India... it is a T-mobile device..Do you this change of ROM will resolve this or will it still remain the same... can there be a problem with the antenna (but 2g network is working fine)....
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I think it should still work. The tech should be able to give you settings regardless of the device origin--you're still paying for a plan, and some support should come with that.
Nevertheless, check this to make sure you have the right settings.
You "may" also have to call T-mobile and ask for unlock code for your phone--they will ask you for the IMEI.
I don't know if necessary, but have read something to that effect--that in using the Amaze 4G in another country, you need to have the phone unlocked. I'm sure someone else on the boards here will let us know.
The back cover houses the antenna, and yes, it could be the antenna, but unless you have another back cover to test it with, it will be best for you to check the settings first, and then see if it needs to be unlocked.
Then come back here with what you've learned--it'll help me learn too.
The ad said that the phone is unlocked... I purchased it from Ebay and I have a prepaid connection with the provider.. it is "pay as you go plan" so I guess they wont provide much help as I have seen customer care people putting their hands up many times saying it is a problem with the device and they cannot help...that's y I was trying to get some help here on the forum as someone else could also have faced the same issue and can help me with their experience...
pbergonzi said:
I think it should still work. The tech should be able to give you settings regardless of the device origin--you're still paying for a plan, and some support should come with that.
Nevertheless, check this to make sure you have the right settings.
You "may" also have to call T-mobile and ask for unlock code for your phone--they will ask you for the IMEI.
I don't know if necessary, but have read something to that effect--that in using the Amaze 4G in another country, you need to have the phone unlocked. I'm sure someone else on the boards here will let us know.
The back cover houses the antenna, and yes, it could be the antenna, but unless you have another back cover to test it with, it will be best for you to check the settings first, and then see if it needs to be unlocked.
Then come back here with what you've learned--it'll help me learn too.
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wcdma
gmm8877 said:
The ad said that the phone is unlocked... I purchased it from Ebay and I have a prepaid connection with the provider.. it is "pay as you go plan" so I guess they wont provide much help as I have seen customer care people putting their hands up many times saying it is a problem with the device and they cannot help...that's y I was trying to get some help here on the forum as someone else could also have faced the same issue and can help me with their experience...
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Thanks for explaining. I apologize I neglected to put the settings link yesterday--you'll want to check your settings:
http://compixels.com/8630/manual-3g-settings-for-airtel-vodafone-idea-bsnl-docomo-more
Thanks again for your reply...I already have those same APN settings saved for my provided...but my problem is that my device is not receiving any 3g signals to be exact...I can connect to the data connection also but with 2g speeds...
pbergonzi said:
Thanks for explaining. I apologize I neglected to put the settings link yesterday--you'll want to check your settings:
http://compixels.com/8630/manual-3g-settings-for-airtel-vodafone-idea-bsnl-docomo-more
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gmm8877 said:
The ad said that the phone is unlocked... I purchased it from Ebay and I have a prepaid connection with the provider.. it is "pay as you go plan" so I guess they wont provide much help as I have seen customer care people putting their hands up many times saying it is a problem with the device and they cannot help...that's y I was trying to get some help here on the forum as someone else could also have faced the same issue and can help me with their experience...
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Besides the firmware update, there has been a separate radio update.
I think these are the most recent updates:
Software number is 2.14.531.30 710RD
Baseband version is 1.15.550L.08DC_30.80.550L16D
It's possible that your phone will work with them.
Does anyone else agree?
how do I try them.. I mean what do I need to do..
pbergonzi said:
Besides the firmware update, there has been a separate radio update.
I think these are the most recent updates:
Software number is 2.14.531.30 710RD
Baseband version is 1.15.550L.08DC_30.80.550L16D
It's possible that your phone will work with them.
Does anyone else agree?
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how do i do this
gmm8877 said:
how do I try them.. I mean what do I need to do..
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You may be able to just put the official OTA on your exernal SD card and flash through recovery--not quite sure yet.
I gotta see some of the settings info, so for starters go into your settings->about phone, screenshot the page that appears and also scroll down to any new pages, and post screenshots here.
How to screenshot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885386
After that, reboot the phone into recovery following these instructions, and screenshot the recovery screen and post it here also:
Power the phone off and wait about 10 seconds after the screen goes black to be sure it's off->hold Volume Down button, while doing so press the Power button, and release both buttons.
The phone will boot to bootloader, should say hboot up top, and have a little list below it.
If you can't screenshot it via the previous method, note if at the top of the page is says Locked or Unlocked, and if it says "S-Off" or "S-On", and note the version of hboot so you can post the info here.
Use the power down button to highlight the list item "Recovery", and then press and release the Power button to enter the recovery. After recovery loads, note if it returns to a screen just like the hboot screen, or if says in it "TWRP", "CWM", or "4EXT" or any such other thing, and screenshot that or get the info and post that here also.
Now that you've learned what sort of state the phone's in, you can reboot from whichever screen you're on, and have your phone back to normal.
Once you're back with your phone booted, you'll find a screenshots folder in gallery most likely, else you'll have to search the phone with a file manager app or google to find it, but check the gallery first.
After that we'll look for the proper update and update method for you.
Hopefully by then someone else will come along and say something like "All he needs to do is download this "Official OTA" [link included] and put it on the SD card and flash it via hboot"--hopefully, 'cause I may be making this more complicated than it needs to be.
Here, let me repeat that, "Hopefully by then someone else will come along and say something like "All he needs to do is download this "Official OTA" [link included] and put it on the SD card and flash it via hboot"--hopefully, 'cause I may be making this more complicated than it needs to be."
In bootloader, it is showing as:
Unlocked
RUBY PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.93.0003
OpenADSP-v02.6.0.226.00.0202
IN RECOVERY: Team Win Recovery Project v2.3.3.0
I have also added screenshots as attachments for the about phone setting menus.
pbergonzi said:
You may be able to just put the official OTA on your exernal SD card and flash through recovery--not quite sure yet.
I gotta see some of the settings info, so for starters go into your settings->about phone, screenshot the page that appears and also scroll down to any new pages, and post screenshots here.
How to screenshot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885386
After that, reboot the phone into recovery following these instructions, and screenshot the recovery screen and post it here also:
Power the phone off and wait about 10 seconds after the screen goes black to be sure it's off->hold Volume Down button, while doing so press the Power button, and release both buttons.
The phone will boot to bootloader, should say hboot up top, and have a little list below it.
If you can't screenshot it via the previous method, note if at the top of the page is says Locked or Unlocked, and if it says "S-Off" or "S-On", and note the version of hboot so you can post the info here.
Use the power down button to highlight the list item "Recovery", and then press and release the Power button to enter the recovery. After recovery loads, note if it returns to a screen just like the hboot screen, or if says in it "TWRP", "CWM", or "4EXT" or any such other thing, and screenshot that or get the info and post that here also.
Now that you've learned what sort of state the phone's in, you can reboot from whichever screen you're on, and have your phone back to normal.
Once you're back with your phone booted, you'll find a screenshots folder in gallery most likely, else you'll have to search the phone with a file manager app or google to find it, but check the gallery first.
After that we'll look for the proper update and update method for you.
Hopefully by then someone else will come along and say something like "All he needs to do is download this "Official OTA" [link included] and put it on the SD card and flash it via hboot"--hopefully, 'cause I may be making this more complicated than it needs to be.
Here, let me repeat that, "Hopefully by then someone else will come along and say something like "All he needs to do is download this "Official OTA" [link included] and put it on the SD card and flash it via hboot"--hopefully, 'cause I may be making this more complicated than it needs to be."
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can't find the India ICS RUU for flash.
gmm8877 said:
In bootloader, it is showing as:
Unlocked
RUBY PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.93.0003
OpenADSP-v02.6.0.226.00.0202
IN RECOVERY: Team Win Recovery Project v2.3.3.0
I have also added screenshots as attachments for the about phone setting menus.
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You did a good job with that--thanks. Hey, you're in good shape--everything is new enough.
You need to Super CID your phone, and then flash a rom for one of your local (in India) carriers.
Super CID instructions:
http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm
ROM for carriers:
Sorry I can't provide the link--I'm having a helluva tough time searching.
Maybe by the time you've Super Cid'ed your phone, someone else will tell us where to find a proper ICS RUU for India.
Thank you
Thank you for taking out time for helping me...can any other rom (other than the T-mobile) working... and I dont know what is RUU..lol.. I am pretty new to these terms.:laugh:
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You did a good job with that--thanks. Hey, you're in good shape--everything is new enough.
You need to Super CID your phone, and then flash a rom for one of your local (in India) carriers.
Super CID instructions:
http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm
ROM for carriers:
Sorry I can't provide the link--I'm having a helluva tough time searching.
Maybe by the time you've Super Cid'ed your phone, someone else will tell us where to find a proper ICS RUU for India.
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Super CID, RUU
gmm8877 said:
Thank you for taking out time for helping me...can any other rom (other than the T-mobile) working... and I dont know what is RUU..lol.. I am pretty new to these terms.:laugh:
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In order to use the phone in your country you need to have one of your carrier's firmware on the phone so it is compatible.
You can't put their firmware on your phone until after you've performed "Super CID". After performing that, other carrier's firmware can be flashed to the phone.
RUU restores the phone to factory condition. Let's not concern ourselves with that just yet--follow the instructions to Super CID.
I've got a rooted unlocked s-off AT&T M8. I took the 4.4.4 update, then promptly moved to ARHD 34.0. Didn't realize it at first, but I am no longer able to receive calls while on LTE. (works fine for data, and outgoing calls)
If I force it down to 3g, I'm fine. I also noticed that outgoing calls automatically kick it down to 3g- then learned that LTE calls are not an option yet for AT&T. What I'm trying to figure out is, how was I able to have my stock rom on AT&T in LTE mode and still receive a call?
I've checked all the APN settings and it all is set to recommended parameters on AT&T's website. Is this an Android Revolution HD issue? SIM issue? AT&T issue?
I'm going to have to back out of ARHD if there is no solution here, and that would suck.
thanks.
ARHD 34.0 is Android 5.0 based (software 4.16); not 4.4.4 (software 3.x). You might be experiencing this issue due to firmware mismatch. My advice would be to flash the US Dev Edition RUU or firmware zip to get on the 4.x based firmware, and see if that helps. You can try the Euro 4.16.401 firmware, but my experience the US Dev Edition (4.16.1540) plays better on AT&T (as its designed to work on AT&T's network).
Even with the proper firmware, some folks have also had some random network issues running an "international" based ROM on AT&T's network. Most notably losing Google services while on LTE (possibly due to build.prop differences). So its possible your LTE issue may be related. Not to knock the ROM developers, but devs from Europe and other regions often aren't that familiar with the nuances of AT&T's network.
So if being on the proper firmware still does not resolve the issue, it might be the ROM itself doesn't play well with AT&T in your location.
Thanks Redpoint-
I hadn't considered that and am also shy to using the Dev RUU due to brick risk but will reassess that. (I have to convert my device to GPE to put that on don't I?) I recall some warnings about bricking if I change the ID of my phone and apply the wrong RUU or something- but I'll have to refresh myself on those caveats. Would have been so much simpler if AT&T had just released Lollipop but who knows how long I'd be waiting for that.
Thanks again.
jeremyenos said:
Didn't realize it at first, but I am no longer able to receive calls while on LTE. (works fine for data, and outgoing calls)
If I force it down to 3g, I'm fine. I also noticed that outgoing calls automatically kick it down to 3g- then learned that LTE calls are not an option yet for AT&T. .
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Voice over LTE (VoLTE) not being available yet should not be the cause. VoLTE is not currently available on most carrier worldwide. Its a very new technology, and deployment is still ongoing in most regions. Only a few Asian countries currently have VoLTE.
That being the case, voice calls should be kicking down to 3G. The lack of VoLTE should not prevent you from receiving calls. As mentioned, I believe the issue is either a firmware mismatch, or ROM not playing well on AT&T's network.
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Thanks Redpoint-
I hadn't considered that and am also shy to using the Dev RUU due to brick risk but will reassess that. (I have to convert my device to GPE to put that on don't I?) I recall some warnings about bricking if I change the ID of my phone and apply the wrong RUU or something- but I'll have to refresh myself on those caveats. Would have been so much simpler if AT&T had just released Lollipop but who knows how long I'd be waiting for that.
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No, you don't need to convert to GPE to run Dev Edition RUU. Dev Ed not the same as GPE. Dev Ed is Sense, just without the AT&T branding. The US Dev Edition Lollipop ROM is actually pretty sweet (what I am currently on via RUU).
You won't likely brick the device with RUU unless you run an RUU for the wrong device.
Changing CID is safe as long as you type the command properly.
There is always some tiny risk of a brick if you mess with things s-off, and flashing hboot and radio. But I wouldn't say the risk is any more than installing the OTA (which also replaces hboot and radio) as long as you follow instructions carefully, and do the proper research, and take the proper care while performing the steps.
So thanks redpoint for the advice-
Dev edition RUU installed just fine, and updated my radio and hboot as I had hoped. I go to restore ARHD, and it fails though... even fresh install of ARHD fails with some symlink error. I think after reading up on it that this is due to partition resizing that Dev edition does. So now I can't seem to find a way to get ARHD back on the device. I have no idea what to do to the partitions to restore them to something ARHD can use again if that's the problem, and I can't find anything about it on XDA or elsewhere.
Kind of surprised by this if I'm on the only one hitting the issue... all of the issues. To my knowledge, without a radio update, no AT&T m8 in America with ARHD 34 is going to be receiving incoming calls with LTE enabled. The only way to get a radio update is to use an RUU- of which dev edition is the only one. AT&T/HTC only releasing the 4.4.4 RUU for right now it seems, without the radio and hboot update.
Maybe I've got this all wrong somehow... I can't be the only ARHD m8 AT&T LTE USA user that wants to have incoming calls right? How has anyone else accomplished this?
Stuck with Cyanogenmod for now... slower, less stable than ARHD.
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Dev edition RUU installed just fine, and updated my radio and hboot as I had hoped. I go to restore ARHD, and it fails though... even fresh install of ARHD fails with some symlink error. I think after reading up on it that this is due to partition resizing that Dev edition does. So now I can't seem to find a way to get ARHD back on the device. I have no idea what to do to the partitions to restore them to something ARHD can use again if that's the problem, and I can't find anything about it on XDA or elsewhere.
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You're still misunderstanding about Dev Edition (DE) versus GPE. Only GPE has different partitioning from Sense. DE is still Sense, and has the same partitioning scheme as the stock AT&T (and other carrier) Sense setup.
Don't know why you are having the issues restoring ARHD nandroid and even flashing ARHD. Wipe cache and try to re-install TWRP or try a different version. Then try a "clean install" (factory reset in TWRP) of ARHD.
Or you might have a case where the DE firmware does not play well with ARHD. You can try the 401 firmware, for which ARHD is based. But this might cause as many issues as it solves, as the US DE firmware usually plays better with AT&T's network than the international firmware. But it might be worth a try.
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The only way to get a radio update is to use an RUU- of which dev edition is the only one. AT&T/HTC only releasing the 4.4.4 RUU for right now it seems, without the radio and hboot update.
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Since you are s-off, you can flash any carrier's M8 firmware, or flash the radio independently. Although a side note that you should stay away from flashing anything for CDMA (Sprint & VErizon) M8's or dual SIM M8.
If you mean there is no updated LP radio intended for AT&T, aside from the DE RUU that you are currently on; than yes that is correct.
Has this been solved? Im experiencing the same thing. I updated my m8 to the latest at&t lollipop ota. And installed xenon rom. Now i just noticed im not getting any calls. Wife is pissed lol
redpoint had my problem pegged. Just had the wrong rom w/o the radio update I think. I needed to get the developer edition from here. After applying it, I could put ARHD back on and all was good. It's been awhile, but that's how I roughly remember it.
simpl3lang said:
Has this been solved? Im experiencing the same thing. I updated my m8 to the latest at&t lollipop ota. And installed xenon rom. Now i just noticed im not getting any calls. Wife is pissed lol
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There is no true fix for this, that I know of. Only workaround: turn off LTE in phone settings, or contact AT&T to have HD Voice (what AT&T is calling Voice Over LTE) turned off for your account. The latter is probably the best workaround if you want to continue using non-ATT ROMs; since it allows you to still utilize LTE speeds for data, and HD Voice only works if both parties have devices that support the feature (and many folks don't at this time).
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There is no true fix for this, that I know of. Only workaround: turn off LTE in phone settings, or contact AT&T to have HD Voice (what AT&T is calling Voice Over LTE) turned off for your account. The latter is probably the best workaround if you want to continue using non-ATT ROMs; since it allows you to still utilize LTE speeds for data, and HD Voice only works if both parties have devices that support the feature (and many folks don't at this time).
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thank you for the quick reply. i will call at&t right now. and i will throw in an update.
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There is no true fix for this, that I know of. Only workaround: turn off LTE in phone settings, or contact AT&T to have HD Voice (what AT&T is calling Voice Over LTE) turned off for your account. The latter is probably the best workaround if you want to continue using non-ATT ROMs; since it allows you to still utilize LTE speeds for data, and HD Voice only works if both parties have devices that support the feature (and many folks don't at this time).
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Update: i called, and the nice customer service lady couldnt turn off the feature. She said its part of billing something something. Damn what to do now besides turning off lte.
Should i input some apn or something? Revert radio image to an older one? Go back to kitkat?
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Update: i called, and the nice customer service lady couldnt turn off the feature. She said its part of billing something something. Damn what to do now besides turning off lte.
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Just call again, the CS rep probably just didn't know what they were talking about. I think another user mentioned you need to talk to tech support, not the front line CS reps. Turning off HD Voice with AT&T was confirmed by at least 2 other XDA members to work.
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Should i input some apn or something? Revert radio image to an older one? Go back to kitkat?
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Swapping radios or APNs probably won't help. Not sure about reverting to Kitkat.
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Just call again, the CS rep probably just didn't know what they were talking about. I think another user mentioned you need to talk to tech support, not the front line CS reps. Turning off HD Voice with AT&T was confirmed by at least 2 other XDA members to work.
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i guess third time calling is the charm. the first 2 calls i made, they said they couldnt turn it off, saying it was restricted. but the third person i spoke to made me turn my phone off and when it restarted it worked. i can receive calls now.. he said he turned the hd lte off in his side by putting me back to the settings i had before hd voice was added.
thanks again.
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i was actually looking at this prior to making my third call to at&t. maybe it could help others. worth a try? do it at your own risk...
If for some reason the HD Voice Calling option is disabled or inaccessible on your phone after updating to Android 5.1, then you can try the following steps to fix the issue.
Navigate to Settings > More > Cellular Networks and enable the toggle switch for Enhanced 4G LTE Mode. However, if the toggle is missing then follow the steps provided below:
1.Launch the Dialer app on your phone, and dial *#*#4636#*#*.
2.Choose Phone information.
3.Enable or select VoLTE Provisioned Flag.
4.Restart the phone.
5.Go to Settings " More " Cellular networks and toggle the switch for Enhanced 4G LTE Mode, and the HD Voice calling feature should now be activated on your device running Android 5.1.
i got as far as rebooting my phone but the toggle was still missing.
Was working on Insert Coin 4.4.4, flash to OTA 4.16 5.0.2 works fine then I flashed to latest Insert Coin 7.1.9 5.0.2 I tried the following step suggested on post #13 don't see option #3 after click Choose Phone Info.
By calling AT&T turn off HD Voice you'll sacrifice anything?
First call attempt, att technical rep had me turn off phone, 1min later turn it back on and it's working now! Yay!!!
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@simpl3lang @redpoint73 Soo glad I found this thread, this was driving me nuts on my m9 running ARHD. When I called ATT they were able to take care of it and turn it off. I cannot find the setting under the *#4636#*, nor under phone settings in ARHD, Is this a setting that developers forget to include in their ROMS?
tc3sean said:
@simpl3lang @redpoint73 Soo glad I found this thread, this was driving me nuts on my m9 running ARHD. When I called ATT they were able to take care of it and turn it off. I cannot find the setting under the *#4636#*, nor under phone settings in ARHD, Is this a setting that developers forget to include in their ROMS?
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The reason you won't find it in settings, is that "HD Voice" (or I forget what the actual toggle is called) is not a feature on non-ATT ROMs. Its an ATT-specific branding of what is more broadly being calling "Voice over LTE" or VoLTE. Further, most (or at least many) carriers worldwide have not started deploying VoLTE yet (or just starting to do so), so that is another reason why you won't see such a toggle in settings on most ROMs.
Even if such a toggle was present, I'm skeptical whether it would resolve the problem being discussed. It seems there is something unique in the way that ATT is deploying VoLTE, that is screwing with "international" based ROMs. So my hunch is that unless the ATT-specific tweaks are applied, you would still have the voice/SMS issue on LTE.
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The reason you won't find it in settings, is that "HD Voice" (or I forget what the actual toggle is called) is not a feature on non-ATT ROMs. Its an ATT-specific branding of what is more broadly being calling "Voice over LTE" or VoLTE. Further, most (or at least many) carriers worldwide have not started deploying VoLTE yet (or just starting to do so), so that is another reason why you won't see such a toggle in settings on most ROMs.
Even if such a toggle was present, I'm skeptical whether it would resolve the problem being discussed. It seems there is something unique in the way that ATT is deploying VoLTE, that is screwing with "international" based ROMs. So my hunch is that unless the ATT-specific tweaks are applied, you would still have the voice/SMS issue on LTE.
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I can confirm that getting AT&T to turn off HD Voice fixed the issue with me. I installed SkyDragon v10. I had to call twice and go through a lot of crap to get them to do it. The last guy told me he was going to put the "opt-out" code on my number, but that wasn't technically supposed to do it. He said he was putting in that I had "requested" to opt-out (I was taking the line that it just stopped working, as I didn't want to have to deal with any fallout about having rooted and flashed my phone, perhaps that wasn't necessary, idk). So, I think you might take the short cut by saying that you want to opt out of HD voice, and that your "Brother-in-law" just did it, so you know it works. If you stick to your guns, and ask for a technical person and don't let them say no to that, you can definitely get it done.
Thanks to all of the participants on this thread I am out of a tight spot and would like to offer up a few more observations that may be helpful to the next person.
I had an LG G3 running CM13 20160504 that became unstable and I had to replace with my wife's old HTC One m8 also running CM13 20160504 (also tried 20160510 and 20160511) which, like the other phones discussed in this thread, did not get incoming calls, in fact calls did not even roll over to my Google Voice number.
Thanks to this thread I tried forcing the phone to 3g, found that I got calls and then got AT&T to turn of VoLTE (aka HD Voice) and now I can get calls while running with LTE data.
Rather than a fire-hose of details I'll just say that it seems that the G3 would get incoming calls on LTE, and I would not get the first ring then it would ring on what the caller perceived as the second ring. Whenever I was on a call I would note that I was running in 3G, after the call it went back to LTE. I assumed that it was a bandwidth issue but now I think in that lag between the callers first ring and my first ring the phone was negotiating down to a 3G connection like an old school high speed modem negotiating a call with a slower modem (anyone remember those days?). It looks like my HTC does not have the ability to negotiate down or that it was been somehow hardwired not to as there is a flag in the test menu (*#*#4636#*#*) marked "TURN OFF VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG" which has no effect, i.e. I can press it and the is a visible deflection indicating that the phone knows that the button was pressed but the button text does not change to indicate that a toggle has been effected, calls continue to not ring and even rebooting after pressing does not make any difference.
In summary, having AT&T turn off HD Voice has me working fine with the HTC On m8 on CM13 and I am grateful to all of you for the conversation that got me out of that corner.
I have a dreaded Verizon. For the time being, I really only need to alter the radios to tune for Tmobile frequencies. No one seems to advertise or understand this but since the S4 is fully capable of nearly every frequency world wide, and I get next to no signal when on T mobile, I believe Verizon purposely only turned on frequencies that they use.
So, unless someone else has a slick work around for the time being, I will have to figure out a root procedure for this configuration. I looked at this late last year and seemed to be a big hurdle.
King root seems to be inconsistent. What are my options for this?
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I have a dreaded Verizon. For the time being, I really only need to alter the radios to tune for Tmobile frequencies. No one seems to advertise or understand this but since the S4 is fully capable of nearly every frequency world wide, and I get next to no signal when on T mobile, I believe Verizon purposely only turned on frequencies that they use.
So, unless someone else has a slick work around for the time being, I will have to figure out a root procedure for this configuration. I looked at this late last year and seemed to be a big hurdle.
King root seems to be inconsistent. What are my options for this?
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not possible
sorry
the only way it could work is that if you had a i545 running a MDK which lets you run custom kernels
as of now there is no way to flash non-verizon modems to the device
Mobile Networks> Network Mode>
select UTS/GSM is about all you can do
verizon even remove the service menu that shows the available bands
Wow, Verizon must have done their homework on locking down phones. That boot loader is hosery. I consider this much like the government forcing them to give the keys, but did not say they had to put air in the tires. Without the ability to run or select alternate frequencies, service is a no-go
I am mostly in desktop computers but curious why these phones are not being wipes and reloaded with a new OS from scratch? Why all the work arounds and hacks? What am I missing? Does Android have all this on lock down?
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Wow, Verizon must have done their homework on locking down phones. That boot loader is hosery. I consider this much like the government forcing them to give the keys, but did not say they had to put air in the tires. Without the ability to run or select alternate frequencies, service is a no-go
I am mostly in desktop computers but curious why these phones are not being wipes and reloaded with a new OS from scratch? Why all the work arounds and hacks? What am I missing? Does Android have all this on lock down?
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its entirely samsung and verizon's doing
S4 Is a terrible device you would be better off with something like a huawei honor or moto g or moto X
I am curious about your phone selections. My basic needs are only a high end device with good signal, mic, speaker, display, battery life, and memory capacity. However, I really felt I MUST have a phone with SD card ability but I really don't remove it, I don't take many pictures, and probably don't need that feature.
What I DON'T want is a device that is HUGE. I like the size of the S4. T mobile felt sorry for my phone issues and gave me an LG Leon. I simply hate it.
I should mention that I later intend to consider writing some custom apps for basic wifi and blue tooth functions so I want a playground that affords me some latitude.
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I am curious about your phone selections. My basic needs are only a high end device with good signal, mic, speaker, display, battery life, and memory capacity. However, I really felt I MUST have a phone with SD card ability but I really don't remove it, I don't take many pictures, and probably don't need that feature.
What I DON'T want is a device that is HUGE. I like the size of the S4. T mobile felt sorry for my phone issues and gave me an LG Leon. I simply hate it.
I should mention that I later intend to consider writing some custom apps for basic wifi and bluetooth functions so I want a playground that affords me some latitude.
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then the honor x5 is what you want its slightly wider then the s4 5.64 5.53 has sd dual sim dual radio and a factory unlockable bootloader
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_5x-7590.php
remember huawei is the OEM for google meaning they designed and manufactured the nexus 5x and 6p
Thank you! I find phone shopping to be rather daunting. I see a lot of developers using the Nexus product but also see a lot of people using Samsung due to all their included gadgets on board.
One thing that may be handy is the IR emitter. Is there a site that compares different products well? I do notice the honor does not get high marks for their display performance.
As well, due to using T mobile, I am unsure on compatibility. I need to know if the boot loader is responsible for toggling certain bands on/off? If I buy an honor for ATT, I assume it will be toggled for ATT frequencies? Since the BL is unlocked, can I toggle other bands to ensure I get the best service possible?
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Thank you! I find phone shopping to be rather daunting. I see a lot of developers using the Nexus product but also see a lot of people using Samsung due to all their included gadgets on board.
One thing that may be handy is the IR emitter. Is there a site that compares different products well? I do notice the honor does not get high marks for their display performance.
As well, due to using T mobile, I am unsure on compatibility. I need to know if the boot loader is responsible for toggling certain bands on/off? If I buy an honor for ATT, I assume it will be toggled for ATT frequencies? Since the BL is unlocked, can I toggle other bands to ensure I get the best service possible?
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idk why you said the honor doesn't get high marks 1080p ips is pretty dam good
tho I guess some `review sites`
having a 2 or 4k display on your phone does no good if the gpu can't drive it
it will look real pretty but real world performance will suffer
different phones vs different carriers e.g CDMA phone like the i545 verizon s4 can not be used on GSM carriers such as ATT and Tmobile
read here for more info on that http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407896,00.asp
a unlocked bootloader grants you the ability to run custom roms and flash certain portions of the phone that are normally inaccessible
the bootloader has nothing todo with radio bands
the honor or any other factory unlocked phone should work on your carrier without issue
Thank you! I guess my only real requirement in the display is having one I can actually see outdoors! Amazing how poor the screen is on this old LG leon.
Maybe you can help me better understand how the bands are configured and/or locked on a phone? The reason I ask is the Verizon Galaxy S4 is technically capable of all bands that Tmobile uses yet I see poor functionality with it, indicating tome it is not picking up certain frequencies. I made the assumption the boot loader would be isolating the bands? Is this software controlled? Or not at all? Which would leave me wondering.
For reference, the Verizon S4 DOES work on Tmobile though. It holds 4GLTE signal but texts will not go out because I believe Tmobile is using 2G or 3G for that.
The way I assumed this worked is the phone is capable of a WIDE range of bands and frequencies, but the service provider would invoke only certain frequencies that they use?
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Thank you! I guess my only real requirement in the display is having one I can actually see outdoors! Amazing how poor the screen is on this old LG leon.
Maybe you can help me better understand how the bands are configured and/or locked on a phone? The reason I ask is the Verizon Galaxy S4 is technically capable of all bands that Tmobile uses yet I see poor functionality with it, indicating tome it is not picking up certain frequencies. I made the assumption the boot loader would be isolating the bands? Is this software controlled? Or not at all? Which would leave me wondering.
For reference, the Verizon S4 DOES work on Tmobile though. It holds 4GLTE signal but texts will not go out because I believe Tmobile is using 2G or 3G for that.
The way I assumed this worked is the phone is capable of a WIDE range of bands and frequencies, but the service provider would invoke only certain frequencies that they use?
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if its holding lte then all you need todo is change the APN to point to t-mobiles servers (store should have offered todo this for you)
t mobile uses slightly differing frequencies depending on your area you are lucky enough to be in one of the area's that use the higher bands
instructions are here https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090
this will not change the fact that you may or may not get data signal depending on where you are connecting too
I would install textra from the playstore and set it as your mms app it has some over-rides for the apn settings if it won't let you change it via the system UI
alt instructions use the`fast` for lte
http://www.4gtricks.com/2013/04/t-mobile-4g-apn-t-mobile-4g-apn-settings.html
Right now the S4 indicated locked to 4GLTE but signal is -90dbm, 50asu. I tested data and I am able to use it though it is slow. I, however, still cannot send an sms. I am able to edit settings for the APN but have verified all settings are per tmobile specs. Any ideas where to go from here?
In the network modes, I am able to chose, 1) global, 2)LTE/CDMA 3) LTE/GSM/UMTS
I have it on LTE/GSM/UMTS right now. IIRC, the GSM is the 2G/3G for sms and voice?
Is it possible that the I545 is trying to operate on the Verizon 750mhz instead of the 700mhz of Tmobile?
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Right now the S4 indicated locked to 4GLTE but signal is -90dbm, 50asu. I tested data and I am able to use it though it is slow. I, however, still cannot send an sms. I am able to edit settings for the APN but have verified all settings are per tmobile specs. Any ideas where to go from here?
In the network modes, I am able to chose, 1) global, 2)LTE/CDMA 3) LTE/GSM/UMTS
I have it on LTE/GSM/UMTS right now. IIRC, the GSM is the 2G/3G for sms and voice?
Is it possible that the I545 is trying to operate on the Verizon 750mhz instead of the 700mhz of Tmobile?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery&hl=en\
should tell you what band its connecting on
install textra and go into its options and enable the 't mobile fix'
OK, I loaded Textra and LTE recovery. I honestly am not certain of what I am looking at on the LTE app but looks like I am connecting to band 4 LTE. At that time, I could not and still cannot send a text. However, at some point, it switched over to a UMTS connection and I was able to fire off texts normally so I know my APN settings are right and there is something odd going on. Textra did nothing different and there is no setting for tmobile other than a wifi setting.
I have read many other people having this exact problem which hovers around those using a verizon S4 on tmobile and upgrading to 5.0 OS.
What I need to figure out, and maybe an area that would require another thread but I need to learn if I may need to reflash the modem to function properly on tmobile and if that can even be considered on an unrooted, boot loader phone? If not, what are the best options? Just dump the phone and get something else? I read of a few roots on the OC1 platform but not sure on that.
If I knew my efforts would work and I knew what I needed to do to fix this issue, I would. I almost just upgraded to the latest revision hoping for a patch in there but not sure I should do that if I want to root? Is OC1 and above all the same for rooting issues?
you don't even have to root to work around this. you can downgrade modem to MDK build. Then use QPST/QXDM to change item 6828 to value 4096
Sins07, I am very interested in the modem mods you suggest as I also came to the conclusion the modem is the issue.
Would I out of line to ask if you can dumb this down a little for a newbie? You mention downgrading the modem only and was not aware you could do that. Can you explain how this modem issue is occuring and how the modem mods will fix it?