I am buying a new 7/8" tablet. Which operating system will be easiest to convert to Ubuntu Touch?
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powdah said:
I am buying a new 7/8" tablet. Which operating system will be easiest to convert to Ubuntu Touch?
thks
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The best idea would be to get a nexus 7 or 10 because they have the most support and then flash ubuntu touch to it. Here's the installation instructions:
h t t p : / / d e v e l o p e r . u b u n t u . c o m / e n / s t a r t / u b u n t u - f o r - d e v i c e s / i n s t a l l i n g - u b u n t u - f o r - d e v i c e s /
Sorry I had to write the link like that but xda won't let me post external links yet.
The only devices which are currently supported are the Nexus 7 (2013) and the Nexus 10. If you buy another device, you are going to have to port it yourself and this will by far not be easy.
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IMHO you'd be better off getting a Windows 8 tablet like a Dell Venue 8 Pro (or better yet, something that uses 64-bit UEFI - bonus if it has a BIOS CSM) because they tend to use laptop-grade Intel processors which can run pretty much any Linux distro. At least the Linux kernel supports Intel's Bay Trail SoC pretty well. I wouldn't bother buying an ARM-based Android tablet specifically for Ubuntu Touch, mainly because you get more interface choices with "desktop"/non-Touch Ubuntu, but also because they're unlikely to get updates in the not-too-distant future after the Android vendor kernel reaches end of life.
Most popular Android tablet SoCs are stuck on kernel 3.4 or 3.10 if you're lucky, and with Linux 3.20/4.0 around the corner, many "desktop" Linux system components (e.g. systemd) will be dropping support for older kernels. Canonical will eventually drop support for these older SoCs because forward-porting all the drivers to a new kernel is a PITA.
TL;DR: get an Intel Bay Trail tablet but research the internal components it uses. That way you can run "desktop" Linux (and Windows, and even Android if you set up a VM) apps - in other words, you won't be limited to the handful of tablet-optimized Ubuntu Touch apps - and you can choose a different tablet-friendly UI. Unity, Gnome 3 (what I currently use), KDE Plasma 5, and several lighter alternative environments are available, and they're pretty compelling for tablet use. Good luck!
Hi.
Sorry to hijack this thread but I have a Nexus 10 and I thought support for this device was dropped? The reason why I ask is because I want to move away from Google services as I think they are just too invasive. So I have swapped Windows for Ubuntu. For my phone I am buying a cheap Firefox Open C device. Now for my tablet I was kinda stumped because I thought support for the N10 was long home regarding Ubuntu.
So what I am asking is Ubuntu for the N10 usable as a daily device?
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Warren_Orange said:
Hi.
Sorry to hijack this thread but I have a Nexus 10 and I thought support for this device was dropped? The reason why I ask is because I want to move away from Google services as I think they are just too invasive. So I have swapped Windows for Ubuntu. For my phone I am buying a cheap Firefox Open C device. Now for my tablet I was kinda stumped because I thought support for the N10 was long home regarding Ubuntu.
So what I am asking is Ubuntu for the N10 usable as a daily device?
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The Nexus 10 is still among the supported devices. (Link: http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/devices/)
I suggest to give Ubuntu a go.
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Not sure if this is the correct forum to post this. I have searched the web and this forum and only found partial answers so please excuse me if this has been discussed. If so a reply with the link would be very helpful.
With AMD and Intel both producing low powered x86 chips, especially AMDs C-50 which incorporates the Radeon HD graphics processor on the same chip, I was wondering if there are any limitations for hardware manufacturers to use these kind of chips on Tablets running Android.
I know currently Google does not have an x86 port of their own, but are there any particular reasons that would stop them if the chips were comparable in power usage and have faster performance? What would be some drawbacks? Would all the apps run fine on the x86 architecture or would each app need to be recompiled to run on these devices?
I guess what I'm really asking is with your expertise do you see x86 processors as a future of Android tablet computing?
Thanks in advance for all the input.
In theory, they'd just have to re-write the bytecode interpreter on the Dalvik-VM (Assuming it works like Sun's Java VM) Everything you run on your android is on a virtual machine, meaning it has the capability of being cross platform. So yes. It's very possible.
http://www.androidx86.org have you checked this site out??
1st ICS build for virtual machines
Just check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19824180
Given the choice with all other things being equal, I'd take a modern ARM over an X86 chip, unless I'm going to run Windows ware. I've used x86 for like almost 20 out of nearly 23.5 years, and wouldn't trust an X86 Android tablet, now that I've dug into my TF .
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Given the choice with all other things being equal, I'd take a modern ARM over an X86 chip, unless I'm going to run Windows ware. I've used x86 for like almost 20 out of nearly 23.5 years, and wouldn't trust an X86 Android tablet, now that I've dug into my TF .
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Wouldnt trust it for what reason?
Windows 8 will be released with an x86 and ARM version.
The Android OS itself runs very smoothly on x86, I have been using a small hp thinclient t5565 as a debug machine instead of my phone or a virtual machine for 2 weeks now and it performs admirably. Granted I cant play HD games on it, but thats what I have the Enjoy 7 tablet for. android-x86 is just brilliant, in many cases the generic froyo and gingerbread builds breathe new life into old rusty machines, making them very useful once more. The only thing missing, is better generic hardware support for ethernet and various 3D display devices. I am currently looking at an option of using android-x86 as a swop and go solution, since my test machine runs the installed system completely from a USB thumb drive. Which means if it breaks, pull the stick out, pop in another machine and you are back to work. Perfect solution for a POS terminal, library internet access machine or even something to keep the kids out of your hair.
ashmem in Android x86
I developed a simple shared memory IPC in Linux already and I would also like to do it in Android x86.
Does anyone knows on how to do this(shared memory or should I call it "ashmem"?) ?
I really need your help. I'm still a beginner in Android x86, so I hope you can give a step-by-step guide.
So I'd like some help in figuring out how to get Windows 8 on the Galaxy Tablet 10.1...Where do begin, in order to make this happen?
It's very simple actually:
1) put the Windows 8 DVD into the galaxy tab
2) press ctrl-alt-delete
3) dunk your tablet in a lukewarm solution of flour, salt, baking soda, and milk
4) make up a raindance
5) do 30 seconds of research, including a simple search of the forums, before you post
You can actually skip the salt in #3. Usless step.
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Same question i have been seeing in the Galaxy Tab 7, re-posted many times xD
Why would you like to see windows on tablet? if you want just simply go buy the new samsung Tablet ( laptop) with windows inside it
k0sh said:
Same question i have been seeing in the Galaxy Tab 7, re-posted many times xD
Why would you like to see windows on tablet? if you want just simply go buy the new samsung Tablet ( laptop) with windows inside it
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That logic is retarded.
You could say the same thing about any development thread were people are porting roms/os's to non original devices.
The whole point of XDA is to push our devices to the limits, this sometimes means putting roms, operating systems and apps on our devices that were never designed for them.
@ OP
You will not see Win8 on non-windows devices until devs find a way to boot the ISO/build and also locate drivers for them. Once this happens you wont need to create topics like this as you will just need to look for a few seconds or use search to find topic.
SSD in the Galaxy
I would guess that the Samsung Windows 8 tablet and the Galaxy 10.1 would share some similarities within the chipset, which would probably mean windows 8 'may' already have quite a few drives for the tablet.
Is there a way to access the SSD drive on the Samsung Galaxy as a raw device rather than MTP?
Windows 8 on any current android tablet won't happen, there are only x86 and x86_64 builds out, so until Microsoft comes with an arm build, doesn't matter if you can boot an ISO since the tablet is not able to run x86 or x86_64 binaries
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Windows 8 on any current android tablet won't happen, there are only x86 and x86_64 builds out, so until Microsoft comes with an arm build, doesn't matter if you can boot an ISO since the tablet is not able to run x86 or x86_64 binaries
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Damn, I forgot, after you add the salt, but before you do the raindance, you have to create an ARM build of Windows 8. I always leave out an important step...
It seems you forgot that you need to use a Mac on Mars to do the Windows 8 build
Thor Erik said:
Windows 8 on any current android tablet won't happen, there are only x86 and x86_64 builds out, so until Microsoft comes with an arm build, doesn't matter if you can boot an ISO since the tablet is not able to run x86 or x86_64 binaries
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<serious>This is the key sticking point for now. Once Microsoft releases an ARM build for Win8, there may be a chance of getting it onto the SGT10.1.</serious>
Alternatively, if you can find a way of booting your Tab using a .iso stored on another Tab, whilst repeating the correct initiation spell 3 times backwards then it's not a difficult process.
Less likely. The nVidia chipset in our tablets (got the 8.9) is crap. It struggles with HC... let alone a windows OS...
Also, what people don't realize is even if Microsoft releases an ARM build of windows, it won't run their normal x86 apps either.
You'd be surprised how many apps use managed .net, those apps will run nicely(ish) on arm since you got a JIT in between the application layer and the kernel level
It will probably be more likely to get a windows 8 tab and attempt a dual install of Android. Android 1.6 I believe was possible, I did it on my NetBook but with no touchscreen it was pointless lol
Hi @ all,
it is funny to see how XDA people react on a simple question.
Simple question <-> a lot of know how and strange terms...
The little OP stays there and take the arms up to the head and says: ahhhhh
Everybody from us know how it is when the know how grows, more and more.
But please.... never forget where we all come from based on the first day with a mobile phone and XDA was online. We all are beginners, every day when the sun comes up.
BTW:
Question for the OP: why do you want to run windows on a tab? Because it is possible, or it is your favior to click on popups?
Thats a serious question.
NOTE:
In the past (long time go) we had have printers as screen. Oops, that was to far in the past.
I was really there. Oops, how old i am?
PM:
Android is a good and stable OS and i hope it takes over Windows once. Long life UNIX...
OK. I have only one question. Why it is posible to install win8 on ipad one and two and not on our tabs?
Strazzi said:
OK. I have only one question. Why it is posible to install win8 on ipad one and two and not on our tabs?
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You mean this? Its not actually running it, and look how sluggish that is.its just remote desktop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxTJ0Bzf9SA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Good lord, Remote desktop and installing are 2 different things../facepalm
You don't actually think he installed it on the iPad right? Then again I have ubuntu on 10.1, does that mean I installed it? :\
if you have an external HDD, how does it work with an android device like ss galaxy tab? does it recognize it? I don't have a tablet to try this. suppose I could try my phone, but it doesn't have a usb port and I don't have an adapter.
Try to use MacOSX...it's also LINUX based...TABUNTU re-writes the boot so that you see the familiar LINUX bootscreen,and something more,it recognizes our processor as x86,I know it's armv7 but That is possible and I am serious...
Who is willing to help me on this project .
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...12&Vendor=Motorola&ModelId=XT912&Locale=en-US
I think it is only information about that software for Motorola RAZR (eg MotoCast) system operates on Windows 8
And no information about the fact that this system will be installed on RAZR phone
I know this , I am wondering if we can possibly do this , I'm a developer from OV and I just got a RAZR last week and I might just make a Windows 8 Based ROM
I know nothing of developing or anything but I'll sure test for you. Keep me updated.
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I keep any new for Razr as welkome, but sincerously i'll never and never put Win* on my devices.
I think the key would be any base rom or built from any source which is already available and then build a Windows 8-styled launcher on it.
17akota said:
I know nothing of developing or anything but I'll sure test for you. Keep me updated.
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Good videos
Visit my channel on youtube
youtube.com/Therazrguy
Please do it my wife would be so happy
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I'd like to see such a big development on my lovely RAZR! I'm not a developer, but how are you gonna make the divers compatible with wp8?
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I believe it is very tough to do on the razr
Razri is the perfect answer for this kind of dev
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Moved To Q&A
Feel free to post in the dev section when any development begins. Before that, this belongs in the Q&A section as its more of a request.
All i see here is that Razr is compatible with Windows 8, not Windows PHONE 8
i am running the windows 8 rtm enterprise edition good for 90 days, Motocast works as does adb and all. The only drivers i cant find are the mz600 flash while in the bp hw diag & boot ap mode. But in all fairness i cant find those even for windows 7 pro.
wp8 on razr
If you're developing wp8 for the razr, I would certainly like to try it out. Good luck.:good:
That's not what's happening. The question asks "Does Windows 8 work with your device?" not "Can you run Windows 8 on your device?" - it's a compatibility page for hardware to see if the hardware will work on a PC (or device) that is running Windows 8, so yes, you can use your RAZR on a Windows 8 device and it will work like it should (whether it's MTP storage, Mass Storage, Motocast, etc).
Ok so why did the person in the third post say he wants to build a windows based rom for the razr
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guys i found a thread here talking about the tool that converts win 8 to a flash micro sd card installation disk type..
it was talking about this mighty RAZR fortunately.. i was searching about it and found that win 8 (NOT WP/WindowsPhone 8) can finally work smoothly on RAZR i..cause in that thread we found that win 8 needs these types of CPU (AMD or Intel & etc..) not Tegra or cortex or any other
CPU chipsets..for complete discovery about this thing i've recently tested this micro sd type (like the one i made with win8 rom with guide of XDA)
and found this:
Wintouch Q series tablets: not working cause of cortex CPU
piere cardian tablets: not working cause of cortex CPU
amazon kindle fire: not working cause of snapdragon CPU
motorola xoom: not working cause of tegra CPU
apple ipad 1: not working again
BUT!!!!!!!!!!!:
MSI windpad series: working completely
Viewsonic viewpad 10 (my tablet ) : working completely and dual Os with android 4.0.4
HP tablet PC series (pavillion i think): worked completely even the dual Os type
so therefore this means amd and intel atom CPU's can took up our dream to real and we can have the windows 8 (PC version on Motorola RAZR i cause of intel atom CPU with 100% sure)
im in iran right now and im working well with lots of cellphone types like motorola-HTC-samsung-Blackberry-vertu-apple & etc but i've recently found a chinise cellphone in our famous mall (ALA'EDIN) that had the windows 8 on it (i dont know the CPU brand but im sure it was not the Intel or AMD or something else cause i asked from seller) so keep searching and working on this thread and make it UP!
Hey guys.
I have neither Windows RT device nor Chromebook but I know that both of them are based on ARM architecture. What is more, I read from news that certain developer of Google installed Ubuntu on Chromebook to enlarge the latter's offline features.
So my question is: is it possible to make a Windows 8 RT ROM for Chromebook?
It's a big challenge but will be very useful, especially for those geeks who have Chromebook and wanna try Windows.
Don't laugh if it sounds silly.
And thank your for your joining the talk.
right now, no. Later down the road?...maybe
Apparently the BIOS is a huge problem.
I heard Ubuntu runs great on it though.
Not legally... Windows RT is only being released as an OEM-install version, which means someone would have to mess around with the files that already exist on a pre-installed RT device, drivers at the present time are unable to be compiled nor installed on Windows RT due to Microsoft's adoption of the Apple ecosystem, and the bootloader would also be an issue. But, I have seen someone get the HD2 running it, it was news like a month ago http://blog.laptopmag.com/hacker-gets-windows-rt-running-on-old-school-htc-hd2-phone , but it's horribly laggy and slow.
zacharyb5386 said:
right now, no. Later down the road?...maybe
Apparently the BIOS is a huge problem.
I heard Ubuntu runs great on it though.
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You're right. Just be patient and be confident in hackers lol
bal01 said:
Not legally... Windows RT is only being released as an OEM-install version, which means someone would have to mess around with the files that already exist on a pre-installed RT device, drivers at the present time are unable to be compiled nor installed on Windows RT due to Microsoft's adoption of the Apple ecosystem, and the bootloader would also be an issue. But, I have seen someone get the HD2 running it, it was news like a month ago http://blog.laptopmag.com/hacker-gets-windows-rt-running-on-old-school-htc-hd2-phone , but it's horribly laggy and slow.
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Thanks for the reply. Yea I agree with your point. But developers are always making the impossible things possible, aren't they?
Actually HD2 isn't the only android device that can be installed Windows RT/Windows Phone 8. I saw in other forums that ZTE Blade CDMA2000 version+ (N880E) also has similar hardware environments that enables Windows Phone rom installation. So a Windows ROM for Chromebooks is worth expecting!
Yah thats right ubuntu runs good on it.Try out once!!!
Thanks for asking this question I always wondered myself too just never brave like enough like you to ask.
I don't think it's possible to install windows on Chromebooks at all. They're not very open-sourced, sort of like Apple products. You can install Linux on it though, since Chrome OS is Linux based.
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I don't think it's possible to install windows on Chromebooks at all. They're not very open-sourced, sort of like Apple products. You can install Linux on it though, since Chrome OS is Linux based.
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Funny how Google makes an open source smartphone OS but their OS for laptops is closed source. [emoji17]
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I don't think it's possible to install windows on Chromebooks at all. They're not very open-sourced, sort of like Apple products. You can install Linux on it though, since Chrome OS is Linux based.
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Why not install Linux and then switch from Linux to windows? Would it work?
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TheJerwin said:
Why not install Linux and then switch from Linux to windows? Would it work?
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How ? Vm? What r u talkin about
that would be wonderful . but no
Dual boot
Dual boot?
is it possible to buy any chromebook and than convert to ubuntu?
i want to have a full system.
Hi all,
I was doing a bit of research to find any news about Ubuntu Touch on x86 platform. But i could not find much of info
So i start this thread for those who are interested to know (Includes me) about UBUNTU Touch on x86 Platform.
Below are the list of good phones with Intel Atom processors. As Ubuntu good with Intel Processors , it should be easy to post to x86 Phones.
Please post if you have any ROM here for Intel phones.
Asus Zenphone 5 & 6 are good & affordable phones to start with.
PS: This is my post. So apologise for the brevity & mistakes
In theory it should be possible to run Ubuntu on an x86 phone as there is also an x86 emulator. I don't know of any actual ROM though.
Thanks. And is there any active development happening on x86 Ubuntu phone ?
And I assume it would be easy to build one . as Ubuntu and x86 is going along for a while now
That would be my ideal phone that can act as a desktop when docked and a phone for the rest.
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I don't think that any hardware manufacturer is currently working on an x86 phone. The two phones which will be released later this year will run on the armhf architecture.
Oh, and please note that as of now it does not covert into a desktop environment yet.
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Love Ihis Idea!
Yes we need development in this area, yes there are a few x86 phones out there like the Intel AZ210 being the most advertised and some others the only complaint about x86 phones is they are the gas hog of the Mobile world but hopefully the Intel M micro processor can lead us into the age of X86 phones. and i would love for some one to port ubuntu touch to one of these devices, please please please!:laugh:
May not be today but in an year or two Intel processor will be efficient (if not battery technology will improve) . so by then software should be ready to be in implemented.
To start with , does x86 Ubuntu touch build exist?
Where can I get them?
And what and all I need to port them to Asus Zenfone lineup?
And what is the status of the scalable UI? (UI that morphs into a desktop when docked)
chaithanyaprasad said:
May not be today but in an year or two Intel processor will be efficient (if not battery technology will improve) . so by then software should be ready to be in implemented.
To start with , does x86 Ubuntu touch build exist?
Where can I get them?
And what and all I need to port them to Asus Zenfone lineup?
And what is the status of the scalable UI? (UI that morphs into a desktop when docked)
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I'm sorry to disappoint you but the UI does not converge (which is the expression they use for the scaling) yet. Currently, they are focusing on bringing the OS to a state which can be released to manufacturers (that's what they call their rtm milestone). According to Canonical and Meizu (one of the two manufacturers) we can see Ubuntu phones later this year, probably in December! During the next development cycle they will then start work on the desktop UI. The current desktop images which use Unity 8 only display the tablet UI.
What about the x86 Ubuntu touch images?
x86 is the 32 bit architecture, right? Images for an i386 emulator are already available out there. If you want to install it on your Ubuntu desktop, check out the Ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator
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Never mind, forgot about droidboot instead of uefi. *sigh* we need a grub friendly drodboot.
Android kernel boots with out grub. Can we do something similar
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Any news for Ubuntu Touch x86?(Intel Atom z3580) Tnx