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Just curious..Where have all the Devs gone? The first few days the dev section seemed to be on fire! I haven't seen anything new pop up in a bit. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can be asking this question. I know they do this as hobby/passion and for free which is why I'm simply asking for "proof of life".lol.
Anyone know of anything in the works? Giving me even more of a reason to check the forums 100 times a day like a true flashaholic ;-)
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Just curious..Where have all the Devs gone? The first few days the dev section seemed to be on fire! I haven't seen anything new pop up in a bit. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can be asking this question. I know they do this as hobby/passion and for free which is why I'm simply asking for "proof of life".lol.
Anyone know of anything in the works? Giving me even more of a reason to check the forums 100 times a day like a true flashaholic ;-)
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Take a walk outside for some fresh air.
Messages like these will not motivate any dev in getting 'cracking'.
what do you mean, it is doing just fine.....they have been plugging away at getting CWM working....which without leaves most users at a disadvantage cuz some people just seem to have issues with oden and ADB. now that they have an alpha of CWM roms will be coming next. and i also think that since ICS is coming up the future that devs are waiting for that. why keep dropping ginger roms? and i see them working on ICS roms as well. we have a stable ginger rom in TPC's/da g's kernel mix. i still see the same devs working and plugging away and we have more now than we did 2 weeks ago...
they are working, and like you said.... they are working on there own time and for FREE.
we should all be greatful. when they stop working be worried.
I think ICS is in the works. The DEV just wants to clean up some of the other issues he is working on. Yes this is vague but I do not want to over step my bounds.
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I too am eager however the one and only rom we have is stable. I can wait for ICS as long as it takes. We have an overclock kernel as well. With other devices I have seen dozens of roms and dozens of kernels with only one or two having full functionality. We have been very fortunate. With that said there seems to be less than the usual amount of Development on this device but remember this is brand new. It takes a while... with the streak we only had a few devs and even then at one point really only one dev. Give it a few weeks. If not do like I am and imerse yourself in reading on how to make roms. I develop android apps and have a few in the market, now that does not qualify me to make roms it does mean that I have the ability to learn like many others could do if they were motivated to do so.
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Take a walk outside for some fresh air.
Messages like these will not motivate any dev in getting 'cracking'.
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I THOUGHT I made it clear that was not my intention at all. Thanks for the other responses they actually answered my question. There are many people like me who are fairly new to this. I am coming from the inspire and when I first got it there were tons of roms available, but I got it 4 months after launch. Then I realized I could have been using the desire HD roms. Can the international rooms be flashed using Odin?
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Can the international rooms be flashed using Odin?
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NO. You will brick your device if you try to flash international ROMs, as they have a different processor as well as other various differences that essentially make them completely different beasts with the same form factor.
Reading a bit more would inform you as to why development is slow right now and why you can't flash international ROMs.
To give you the sparknotes version of what's going on however:
As others have said, we only have an alpha version of CWM, so devs are working on getting that polished up.
Second, devs are working on a way to get around the flash counter, so that you do not have any problems with a warranty exchange in the future. If you don't care about your warranty or want to risk a return with a triggered flash counter, go for it. Other phones have had their flash counter bypassed, so I'm sure our talented devs will come up with a solution fairly soon.
Also, as others have mentioned, we have one stable ROM already, and a great kernel, so that should solve most problems with using the stock ROM until more development occurs.
Lastly, with ICS on the horizon, there is not really a good reason to produce a ton of GB ROMs, so be patient and use the stable one we have already until ICS drops in a few months or so.
The longest anybody has had this device is 11 days right now, and we already have a stable ROM and OC/UV capable kernel. In my opinion, that's a damn good start, and I have a feeling that development will eventually be huge on this device. Give it a few months. =]
So funny how everyone keeps talking about ICS like its coming in two weeks! Btw the release date for that that everyone think is coming soon is for the International version!
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
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So funny how everyone keeps talking about ICS like its coming in two weeks! Btw the release date for that that everyone think is coming soon is for the International version!
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
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Nobody here referenced the international release of official ICS. I think most people here know that it doesn't mean anything for our devices. However, it will be here eventually, and devs are most likely already working on porting over an unofficial version.
The phone been out a week. Lmao, wow
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Nobody here referenced the international release of official ICS. I think most people here know that it doesn't mean anything for our devices. However, it will be here eventually, and devs are most likely already working on porting over an unofficial version.
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There are various dev versions of ICS cooking as we speak; and, I also wouldn't be surprised if Samsung surprises everyone with an official version on/around March 15th... including a US version.
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There are various dev versions of ICS cooking as we speak; and, I also wouldn't be surprised if Samsung surprises everyone with an official version on/around March 15th... including a US version.
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I feel the same way. ATT and Samsung know they need to do something to pull ahead of android competition; they've done it with quality android hardware, now they need to do it with consumer peace-of-mind on the software upgrade front. Nowhere has Samsung said that ICS for "international note" is coming in Q1 2012. They merely say it is coming to the "note", period. I think ICS will come for the US variant sooner rather than later. I know when I got my Atrix, people whined and hollared that it would never get GB. ATT delivered GB very soon, to the scorn of the red-faced naysayers. I know the Atrix was Motorola, but its still an example of a carrier pushing a fast update. Samsung is an excellent company, especially with their Android devices. If any company leads the way for quicker full-product-line android upgrades, I'd expect it to be them.
Pure speculation and I'm maybe totally wrong, but I think the US Note will see ICS very soon.
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thank you guys and gals
This is the downside of getting a newly launched device. I went thru it with the asus transformer 101. That was a little painful in the beginning, but the brilliant minds solved all the problems. It took about a month to really get rolling.
I picked up the Infuse about a year after launch and it was humming within 3 days cause all the hard work had already been done by those great minds in their forum.
The advantage with the Note is it's really great as a stock phone out of the box.
The smart guys and gals here want to advance just as much as we want them to succeed in making this Note the best it can be. So, Patience, and let them work. When they have something good they will be shouting it as loud as can be.
Support and good words go along way. We appreciate you guys more than you know! Thank you for all your efforts, and time away from your work, family, friends and hobbies to devote to this great piece of hardware.
this forum has gotten more action in the past week then the atrix did in the first 2 months. lol.
Damn you guys that are coming from other forums are spoiled!!! I remember waiting foreeevveer just to flash something on the atrix.. and then when CWM came out i was like "wtf is a CWM?" (atrix was my first android).
Stock rom on this phone is doing pretty well for me .Froze all the bloat, not using touchwiz -- and its like i dont even have anything from Samsung on there (besides the SPEN).
I can do without a rom until ICS comes out.. and that is going to do wonders for this device. ICS on the ATRIX is like a breath of fresh air, cant wait to see it on this beast.
Your right, I guess I was kinda spoiled coming from the inspire/desire HD forums. I never realized how long it takes to get things up and running. I apologize if I came off as being impatient. Again that was NOT my intention. I love these forums and appreciate the Devs hard work immensely.
On another "Note" (I know,I know, sorry) I was at best buy mobile last night where I know a couple sales reps and they mentioned that they hoped someone ported over Ics soon as the Samsung rep they spoke with at their store said Ics won't be coming our way for a good while. I myself take that with a grain of salt though. Do you think that a Samsung sales rep would even really know the Ics release schedule?
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Its easy to see all the new users. It takes time. Plus why worry about a flash counter? Do any of you know of anyone or heard of anyone having issues with that? I havent and flashed my skyrocket alot before i turned it in. Seems to just be a way to make n00bs worry. And its working
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Its easy to see all the new users. It takes time. Plus why worry about a flash counter? Do any of you know of anyone or heard of anyone having issues with that? I havent and flashed my skyrocket alot before i turned it in. Seems to just be a way to make n00bs worry. And its working
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Agree so hard
Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
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Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
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I guess I never looked too far into the flash counter. I had read a few threads about it, and people seemed to be convinced that AT&T would get fussy about it. I suppose it doesn't really mean much if you end up putting your phone back to stock and unrooting before returning it. If it wasn't for rooting and such, developers couldn't make apps and flash stuff to the phone, so I guess it doesn't really make sense at all why they would care if the device has been flashed with something else, especially if it is returned to a stock state for a return.
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Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
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I mean I'm at least waiting for more than one ROM, when there are a good supply of awesome ROMs I'll jump right in.
Lol. It's not like all the Dev's aren't answering posts in their respective forums...
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Hello All,
I want to start off with a very big thank you to everyone in this community, everyone here has been very helpful to someone who is a general noob to HTC-Android devices (last HTC I owned was a TPII).
With that out of the way, I've had my Rezound for about a week and I love this phone. It feels great in the hand, has a gorgeous screen that is second to none, and an amazing camera that I'm happy to walk around with in case I need to grab a quick picture of something. Truly, this is a top notch device.
The problem I'm having is that after a week of owning this phone, I'm ready to leave stock. I was settled on CleanROM ICS for the time being until CM9 came out, but then I did some reading looking into CM9 which brought up a few questions.
1) What is S-Off and why is it important? Coming from a Droid X, I thought the important thing was an unlocked Bootloader. Why are other HTC Phones "S-Offed" and this one isn't? How does this affect ROM Development? Does this hurt the chances of CM9 making it to the Rezond (very hard to tell because they have not announced CM9 device support other than the G-Nex)?
2) What is the RIL and why is it important? This seems to be a problem amongst developers.
The main reason I bought this phone over the G-Nex was the SD-Card slot, the camera, and the screen. If development of an AOSP or AOKP is going to be lackluster because of the issues above, I still have one week to return the device and go back to my X for the time being. I will admit, I'm loving 4G, but I'm going to have this device for 2 years; I need to make sure I can get as much as I can out of this device.
Thank you as always for your answers!
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1) What is S-Off and why is it important? Coming from a Droid X, I thought the important thing was an unlocked Bootloader. Why are other HTC Phones "S-Offed" and this one isn't? How does this affect ROM Development? Does this hurt the chances of CM9 making it to the Rezond (very hard to tell because they have not announced CM9 device support other than the G-Nex)?
2) What is the RIL and why is it important? This seems to be a problem amongst developers.
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The 2 questions you have are very related. What it means, from what I understand, is custom radio developments. Also referring to your first question and your concern, that's what we are waiting on. To not rely on a leak for custom roms and to get an official OTA to base the roms off of, which refers back to your 2nd question if this device can't get s-off capability. We already have a way to flash custom kernels & roms, so at this time, s-off would just add the functionality of creating a custom radio.
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The 2 questions you have are very related. What it means, from what I understand, is custom radio developments. Also referring to your first question and your concern, that's what we are waiting on. To not rely on a leak for custom roms and to get an official OTA to base the roms off of, which refers back to your 2nd question if this device can't get s-off capability. We already have a way to flash custom kernels & roms, so at this time, s-off would just add the functionality of creating a custom radio.
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So what makes custom radios important?
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So what makes custom radios important?
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it's more of nodding radios and not creating them. the only advantage is possibly better signal(depending on location,prl and tower) which leads to better voice quality but since this is high end as it is it might not even make a better difference even with possible data speed increases.
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it's more of nodding radios and not creating them. the only advantage is possibly better signal(depending on location,prl and tower) which leads to better voice quality but since this is high end as it is it might not even make a better difference even with possible data speed increases.
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It sounds to me like an excuse not to develop on this device if this is really something stopping us from a solid AOSP or AOKP build.
I'm really torn. I want a Sense-less ICS ROM, but I really love this phone. I have a week left before I can return it. I suppose worst case I could steal my wife's upgrade in May and give her this phone if we don't see development start picking up.
Unrelated, I'm starting to think this device will never see a solid 5.0 build. CM9 isn't even out of beta and official device support is still showing CM7 devices.
I guess it's a tough decision. At least my wife is willing to take this phone.
The radio isn't the issue. The RIL in android is. I don't know of any android devices that have needed modded radios in order to get AOSP working. There is a working build of MIUI with 4G working... but it seems like the dev wants to get it perfect before he releases it. Once that is done we should be able to get CM9.
But by all means though, if you don't like sense, get a nexus. It is possible nothing will ever be released though so don't hinge your plans on it.
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The radio isn't the issue. The RIL in android is. I don't know of any android devices that have needed modded radios in order to get AOSP working. There is a working build of MIUI with 4G working... but it seems like the dev wants to get it perfect before he releases it. Once that is done we should be able to get CM9.
But by all means though, if you don't like sense, get a nexus. It is possible nothing will ever be released though so don't hinge your plans on it.
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So con247- Do you think there is a chance that an ASOP ril will never be developed?
I guess my question is- how is the rezound>RIL>sense different than rezound>RIL>ASOP? If that makes sense?
It is possible it won't ever happen, but I have 99% faith it will be completed soonish.
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It sounds to me like an excuse not to develop on this device if this is really something stopping us from a solid AOSP or AOKP build.
I'm really torn. I want a Sense-less ICS ROM, but I really love this phone. I have a week left before I can return it. I suppose worst case I could steal my wife's upgrade in May and give her this phone if we don't see development start picking up.
Unrelated, I'm starting to think this device will never see a solid 5.0 build. CM9 isn't even out of beta and official device support is still showing CM7 devices.
I guess it's a tough decision. At least my wife is willing to take this phone.
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Seems like an odd thing to buy a phone on the expectation of AOSP. I'm pretty sure we will see a solid AOSP ROM before long though. Not sure how development is going to pick up much more than it is. We have a ton of great ROMs that these awesome devs have been working on tirelessly since before the unlock was even announced. It's only been four months since the phone came out. The development has been moving at breakneck speed! The lack of flashing unsigned radios has no bearing on ROM developing. Con is dead on. Patience folks.
So I was thinking earlier today, according to a few people, we apparently have RIL working just not a kernel source to make AOKP/AOSP stable.
I also thought, well, we have plenty of people still running GB ROMs and people on GB firmware. Why don't people try to put together a CM7.2 ROM since we do have source for GB.
I'm pretty sure Android is all about choice and variety so I ask someone who is experienced in porting, development, etc. Why doesn't someone get in touch with Tekk, or whoever has RIL working and pop out a CM7 (.2?) port, it's still AOSP so it'll hold people over and hell, some people would probably prefer it, not to mention that I'm sure people would rather have a form of Cyanogenmod over nothing at all.
I have no clue how, nor the computer to ever begin trying it, so it's why I ask.
This would definitely be nice. Cm7.2 is amazing on my incredible. I would love to see it on the rezound! Maybe... Just maybe...
Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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No it won't because the sources are available
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con247 said:
Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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They got everything working in ICS, would NONE of it be able to work towards GB??
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Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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I thought we had everything we needed available?
If RIL is fixed for ICS AOSP ROMs supposedly, and we're waiting for kernel source to get it stable, couldn't we translate the RIL fixes down to a GB AOSP ROM, I thought also since we have GB kernel source, all loose ends would be tied up?
We would need someone to take time to make a RIL. I doubt they would. They said in the passed they didn't want to cause of ICS but if we can't progress in CM9 due to kernel source. Why not progress in CM7. Might be a step back but you would make a lot of people happy.
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We would need someone to take time to make a RIL. I doubt they would. They said in the passed they didn't want to cause of ICS but if we can't progress in CM9 due to kernel source. Why not progress in CM7. Might be a step back but you would make a lot of people happy.
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This is kinda my sentiment, if we can't progress any farther on CM9 until HTC/Verizon get the OTA out (which could come as early as next week or as late as 2 months from now, if the latest June-July report is accurate), why not do a CM7 side project, it would seem we have most of, if not all of what we need available.
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This is kinda my sentiment, if we can't progress any farther on CM9 until HTC/Verizon get the OTA out, why not do a CM7 side project, it would seem we have most of, if not all of what we need available.
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"side project" Very well said
This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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Which to me and probably many others is better than possibly nothing and if nothing else, just gives us some more variety which is never bad.
There are a ****load of other fixes aside from RIL that were done for ICS that would have to be redone for GB. For example, things like EGL took a long time to fix for ICS.
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There are a ****load of other fixes aside from RIL that were done for ICS that would have to be redone for GB. For example, things like EGL took a long time to fix for ICS.
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This I did not know, hence why I did ask about this;
I think this would great but idk if I could live without my apex launcher!!
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"side project" Very well said
This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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Why is everybody asking for something instead of attempting to learn something and do it as their own "side-project"?
I got sick of waiting for AOSP, so I found one a ROM I liked and I asked the original dev if I could try to port it. He said go for it, and so I started working on it. Once I have a something worthy of going public, it might just pop up somewhere...
Anyways, the point is, why do I see everybody asking for things but nobody willing to try and do it themselves? Isn't the whole point of Android the ability to tinker with it and make it do whatever you want?
...but, if you're going to depend on someone else to do it for you, it just doesn't seem fair to ask the developers here to "hurry up" or go out of their way to develop something they aren't interested in using themselves..
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Why is everybody asking for something instead of attempting to learn something and do it as their own "side-project"?
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I am attempting to learn btw
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I am attempting to learn btw
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Me too! ****s taking up a lot of my time but it sure is fun!
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Me too! ****s taking up a lot of my time but it sure is fun!
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Sometimes it's fun. haha pain most of the time
I never came in here and asked people per say to do anything,
I did ask about the possibility of it happening and I said foremost that I'm not able to even try because I don't have a computer that's powerful enough to do that kind of work.
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I never came in here and asked people per say to do anything,
I did ask about the possibility of it happening and I said foremost that I'm not able to even try because I don't have a computer that's powerful enough to do that kind of work.
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I understand you were asking about the possibility and not saying something like "Hurry the hell up and give me at least CM7!" and honestly my comment wasn't directed at you at all, or any other single person for that matter. It just seems like in general, we have a common theme of people asking for things like they are entitled, but having no interest in actually contributing to anything at all. I was attempting to point out that really any of us could learn to do these things, if we would just try to spend some time on it...
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I understand you were asking about the possibility and not saying something like "Hurry the hell up and give me at least CM7!" and honestly my comment wasn't directed at you at all, or any other single person for that matter. It just seems like in general, we have a common theme of people asking for things like they are entitled, but having no interest in actually contributing to anything at all. I was attempting to point out that really any of us could learn to do these things, if we would just try to spend some time on it...
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I would love to learn, however I lack the time requirement to learn it with a full time + job, a three year old, a preggers wife, and a house to get ready for the new demon spawn. Sucks because I'd probably be pretty good at it too. I have no expectations on devs and will continue to patiently wait for anything they release.
Any idea on when at&t LG optimus g will be getting the 4.1.2 update? Or even just a 4.1 jellybean. I'm guessing it'll be 4.1.2. Since sprints version just got. Also I'm guessing this is why this device. Doesn't have so many. Roms as of yet.. maybe everyone is just waiting for. A. Ota. Jellybean
noone knows when AT&T will roll out the jelly bean update. there are some jelly bean roms in development section you can try out.
Yeah I'm so eager to try it out but I just got my phone yesterday lol I'm.probably gonna wait alil bit til I root and rom my phone
I'm waiting for keylime pie.
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I'm waiting for Lemon Meringue
What I ment was I'm guessing the devs for this device are waiting for the jellybean update. That's why there's not to many roms,I'm sure once jellybean hits this device everyone will start making roms. There's really no point in making roms since its on 4.0.4 make a rom jellybean hits then devs have to rebase and remake there whole rom so might as well wait.. hopefully its true though chus this is a really nice device to not have any support/roms
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What I ment was I'm guessing the devs for this device are waiting for the jellybean update. That's why there's not to many roms,I'm sure once jellybean hits this device everyone will start making roms. There's really no point in making roms since its on 4.0.4 make a rom jellybean hits then devs have to rebase and remake there whole rom so might as well wait.. hopefully its true though chus this is a really nice device to not have any support/roms
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Have you looked st the developer section? There's ROMs already out that are based on native code. The part where you say to not have any support or ROMs is far from true.
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Have you looked st the developer section? There's ROMs already out that are based on native code. The part where you say to not have any support or ROMs is far from true.
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Have you? Last time I checked converting your phone into a nexus 4 is a mod not a rom and if you check again there's only 2 roms available that's currently about up to date everything else has stoped,that's what I ment with more support/roms.yeah I can see there roms available but for this device I think it deserves way more support than that
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Have you? Last time I checked converting your phone into a nexus 4 is a mod not a rom and if you check again there's only 2 roms available that's currently about up to date everything else has stoped,that's what I ment with more support/roms.yeah I can see there roms available but for this device I think it deserves way more support than that
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Stop whining about AT&T and do something about it. As in, try the Original Android Development forum. We have AOSP, AOKP, and CM10.1 mostly functional. I agree some more ROMs would be neat, but really, what are you so desperate for?
That said, I have an honest question: Aside from maybe PA, what are we still missing out on ROM-wise? 30 reskins of AOKP?
Edit: Sorry about the tone, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's sick of seeing this thread over and over again. Official 4.1.2 will come when it comes, but why not run an 80% functional 4.2.2 today?
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nobody is whining about anything,I can't give my honest opinion? Is there really something wrong with me speaking out? You ppl are are bashing on this device just chus it s made by lg with lg's u.I. I bet all the money in the world that if this device had htcs name on it or samsung this phone would be filled with roms and support. But no that's not the case just chus its lg and so many ppl hating on lg it has lack of support that's all I'm saying with this awsome device it has potential to have way more support
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Stop whining about AT&T and do something about it. As in, try the Original Android Development forum. We have AOSP, AOSP, and CM10.1 mostly functional. I agree some more ROMs would be neat, but really, what are you so desperate for?
That said, I have an honest question: Aside from maybe PA, what are we still missing out on ROM-wise? 30 reskins of AOKP?
Edit: Sorry about the tone, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's sick of seeing this thread over and over again. Official 4.1.2 will come when it comes, but why not run an 80% functional 4.2.2 today?
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X2. There's a fully functioning 4.1.2 that SnowLeopardJB created, in addition to the ones mentioned above. The 4.2.3 roms don't have fully functioning GPS or camera, but they will have them shortly. Synergye's created an AOSP rom, that's using the latest Android developments, that will put this device ahead of the N4, once the quirks are worked out. Reskins aren't ROM's, so leaving that nuance out, what ROM are you looking for that you can't run today?
One addition: If you bought this phone thinking that AT&T was going to support it, you didn't do your research. Apple and Samsung are the only devices that receive any support from AT&T. That's because the former does it's own device support and the latter has enough market share that they can enforce their will on AT&T.
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Have you? Last time I checked converting your phone into a nexus 4 is a mod not a rom and if you check again there's only 2 roms available that's currently about up to date everything else has stoped,that's what I ment with more support/roms.yeah I can see there roms available but for this device I think it deserves way more support than that
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yes i have. i have jelly bean on my LGOG right now and it is fully functional. you're saying there's no support or roms out for this device when that just isnt true. there's even a 4.2.2 rom out that can do everything except camera and GPS. and those will be fixed soon. so what i'm saying is if you say there's little support then you just arent seeing everything in this forum that is out. if you refuse to flash jelly bean on your phone right now then that's the choice you make to stick with ICS. you have the chance to get jelly bean on your LGOG right now, you're just deciding not to.
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X2. There's a fully functioning 4.1.2 that SnowLeopardJB created, in addition to the ones mentioned above. The 4.2.3 roms don't have fully functioning GPS or camera, but they will have them shortly. Synergye's created an AOSP rom, that's using the latest Android developments, that will put this device ahead of the N4, once the quirks are worked out. Reskins aren't ROM's, so leaving that nuance out, what ROM are you looking for that you can't run today?
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That was the core of my question. AOSP, AOKP, CM10.1, and ParanoidAndroid are the only major ROMs I've heard of, and we have all but the last one. This is my first Android device, so I wasn't sure if there was really something big we were still missing.
As for why this phone if I knew AT&T sucked? I needed a new phone when there was still no idea when the Nexus 4 would come back in stock, so I got what was thought to be the next best thing. Honestly, with AOSP, this will be even better than the N4 once the GPS and camera are working.
And I can always convert a year down the road when everyone moves on.
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As you've said in your other thread, you are new to this phone. Which means others have had this phone for a while. Whatever question(s) you might have probably has been asked and answered or at least discussed before already.
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nobody is whining about anything,I can't give my honest opinion? Is there really something wrong with me speaking out? You ppl are are bashing on this device just chus it s made by lg with lg's u.I. I bet all the money in the world that if this device had htcs name on it or samsung this phone would be filled with roms and support. But no that's not the case just chus its lg and so many ppl hating on lg it has lack of support that's all I'm saying with this awsome device it has potential to have way more support
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Correction: you are whining. Most of us love the device for A) basically being a suped up nexus B) first proper krait device with an sd card slot on att and C) for being really cheap on contract
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DeathmonkeyGTX said:
Correction: you are whining. Most of us love the device for A) basically being a suped up nexus B) first proper krait device with an sd card slot on att and C) for being really cheap on contract
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Correction:saying what I want to say in my opinion is not whining in the comandments that's called "freedom of speech" not whining. You have a problem with that go rewrite the comandment with whining instead of freedom of speech chus I'm just stating my own opinion
Commandments? Are you referring to the Bill of Rights? You do know that that same freedom of speech is also extended to anyone who wants to say you are whining, right?
Anyway, enough of the childish back and forth. As stated myriad times in this forum, as is usually the case, no one knows for sure when we'll get JB from AT&T. We have some great devs working on giving us fully functional CM, AOKP and CFX. Patience is a virtue, and we'll be getting some more love soon.
In the meantime, what's missing from the stock experience? You want Google Now? You can get it. Other than that it's just as smooth as JB.
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Correction:saying what I want to say in my opinion is not whining in the comandments that's called "freedom of speech" not whining. You have a problem with that go rewrite the comandment with whining instead of freedom of speech chus I'm just stating my own opinion
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But when you're opinion is wrong, then that would be considered either a) not knowledgable of the facts, or b) whining...as others have said, if you want 10 different versions of AOSP or CM10.1, or 15 versions of the current kernel, then this may not be the phone for you. I could say that my opinion is that the sky is red, but just because I've stated that's my opinion doesn't make it correct. The current version of JB on this device works 100% and is smooth as any phone I've ever used...ever (and I've had all the latest and greatest). You never answered someone's earlier question...what is it exactly that you want that is not being offered at this time?
You may be new to the phone, but you're not new to the forums. So I'm hoping within the last ~2.5 years you've noticed that there's a search feature. Considering this phone has been out for 5-6 months?, correct me if I'm wrong, this question was bound to be asked several times. If you don't want people complaining about your complaining, then it's advised to look through the forums. Feel free to be ungrateful for what the devs of this community has given us, but it's not like you've made anything. If you're in such a hurry, build a rom yourself.
Please? Ill love you forever and ever
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Please? Ill love you forever and ever
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This is real...just used the pure version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2343355
I'd rather you not love me forever and ever...
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Dubbsy said:
I'd rather you not love me forever and ever...
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I should've been less callous when I made this post, but I'm aware of your GE attempt, and it's time for a more experienced dev to make this ROM happen. I'm really tired of the radio issues with yours. I've tried nearly every update you have created since your original and it doesn't appear a whole lot of progress has been made over the last month, In fact I'm pretty sure your 4.6 edition with smoother than this last one.
I constantly have issues with the radio, and the carrier banner has yet to be even removed (much less fixed, although I would just be happy with it being removed).
I appreciate the effort, but Im hoping that someone can create a smooth GE dump and have it be done with. I absolutely hate touchwiz, and Im tired of this touchwiz AOSP skins when the real thing is so much better.
Nitro's Eclipse s4 GE dump is pretty nice, but it still has the same radio issues as yours. But at least he got the carrier banner removed. I kind of like the inverted stuff too, but ive been waiting months to see the power of the GS4 behind stock android.... without ANY issues
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I should been less callous when I made this post, but I'm aware of your GE attempt, and it's time for a more experienced dev to make this ROM happen. Im really tired of the radio issues with your's. Ive tried nearly every update you have created since your original and it doesn't appear a whole lot of progress has been made over the last month, In fact Im pretty sure your 4.6 edition with smoother than this last one.
I constantly have issues with the radio, and the carrier banner has yet to be even removed (much less fixed, although I would just be happy with it being removed).
I appreciate the effort, but Im hoping that someone can create a smooth GE dump and have it be done with. I absolutely hate touchwiz, and Im tired of this touchwiz AOSP skins when the real thing is so much better.
Nitro's Eclipse s4 GE dump is pretty nice, but it still has the same radio issues as yours. But at least he got the carrier banner removed. I kind of like the inverted stuff too, but ive been waiting months to see the power of the GS4 behind stock android.... without ANY issues
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Dude, the GE IS touchwiz with an AOSP skin.
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Dude, the GE IS touchwiz with an AOSP skin.
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Wrong it's aosp, with tw framework bits in it.
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Dude, the GE IS touchwiz with an AOSP skin.
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no its not
Addiso said:
Wrong it's aosp, with tw framework bits in it.
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You know what I meant, i just used a bit of hyperbole. Its AOSP with TW elements underneath. The AOSP may go a little bit deeper than the skin, but its still pretty much AOSP outside and TW inside. TW inside was the OP's issue, and its inextricable from an S4 GE ROM. If you take all the TW elements away, its not really a GE ROM anymore. Unless Dubsy misinformed us, which I doubt.
And the OP's other issue, the radio, is pretty much always the main issue when porting from another device.
GE GS4s are getting the 4.3 updates as of today. Hopefully someone will come out with a 4.3 GE dump soon (that runs smooth)... fingers crossed
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GE GS4s are getting the 4.3 updates as of today. Hopefully someone will come out with a 4.3 GE dump soon (that runs smooth)... fingers crossed
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Got to say I am with you on getting a good GE ROM. I have not tried Dubsy's latest, but nitro's 1.5 is pretty dang smooth. I had a few data drops yesterday, but I didn't notice any today (didn't use the phone as much, though), so if the data drops, it must come back. Going to be on radio all weekend, so I will get more experience with it. I think its stable enough for a DD.
Both Nitro's and Dubby's run fantastically with no data drops!
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I am really hopeful for Nitros. I was using his yesterday and liked it, but I still would like the radio to be ironed out.
Dubsys had many little issues that made it impossible to use on a daily basis. One problem I continue to have is that any phone number starting with "+1" must be redialed without the +1... half my contacts are like that and it is incredibly annoying.
For the amount of time Dubsy has had to work on it, I feel like this issues should've been addressed by now. I think I speak for a lot of the community here when I ask for a more experienced developers help on this GE port.
There is not and will not be a Google Experience S4 for Verizon. Porting the international version requires a ton of adjustments to make the radio functional for us. Dubbsy has really stepped up for us and done way more than he initially planned. Nitro took that base and added some nice things as well. Without their work, we may not have anything GE-related at this point. Be patient and have fun with what we get. Not good enough? Become a dev, or switch to AT&T.
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There is not and will not be a Google Experience S4 for Verizon. Porting the international version requires a ton of adjustments to make the radio functional for us. Dubbsy has really stepped up for us and done way more than he initially planned. Nitro took that base and added some nice things as well. Without their work, we may not have anything GE-related at this point. Be patient and have fun with what we get. Not good enough? Become a dev, or switch to AT&T.
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Can't become a dev, I work way too much, and I'm contracted to Verizon which sucks. I think Nitro will get it down in a bit. But like I said, I'm sure there are devs out there that can do it. So I disagree with you
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Can't become a dev, I work way too much, and I'm contracted to Verizon which sucks. I think Nitro will get it down in a bit. But like I said, I'm sure there are devs out there that can do it. So I disagree with you
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I hear you about working too much. And I'm sure there are other devs out there working on their own GE projects. The way you phrased the op and title just discredits our existing GE devs' work. This kind of thing takes time for even the most skilled, so I think it's important to value any time someone is actively working for the good of the community.
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I hear you about working too much. And I'm sure there are other devs out there working on their own GE projects. The way you phrased the op and title just discredits our existing GE devs' work. This kind of thing takes time for even the most skilled, so I think it's important to value any time someone is actively working for the good of the community.
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Especially considering devs on XDA share their work for free.
Tortuga said:
I hear you about working too much. And I'm sure there are other devs out there working on their own GE projects. The way you phrased the op and title just discredits our existing GE devs' work. This kind of thing takes time for even the most skilled, so I think it's important to value any time someone is actively working for the good of the community.
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True, but I actually am fairly upset, because while dubbsy claims to be doing this project, it may be detracting other devs from taking on the project themselves. I am getting tired of flashing each *new* update, which doesn't appear to be fixing any of the bugs. Then I have to odin, re flash etc etc, which takes hours of time. It has been over a month that I have been watching these projects and seen little improvement, and like I said, I am sure I am not the only person I speak for when I say this.
Going back to Nitro's as we speak. Hopefully I can get this 4g working this time
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True, but I actually am fairly upset, because while dubbsy claims to be doing this project, it may be detracting other devs from taking on the project themselves. I am getting tired of flashing each *new* update, which doesn't appear to be fixing any of the bugs. Then I have to odin, re flash etc etc, which takes hours of time. It has been over a month that I have been watching these projects and seen little improvement, and like I said, I am sure I am not the only person I speak for when I say this.
Going back to Nitro's as we speak. Hopefully I can get this 4g working this time
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In my experience from other phones, 98% of roms are works in progress through the life of the phone. Yes most get to a "stable" point, which is subjective, but unless they're heavily stock-based it takes awhile if it ever gets to that point. Coming from an HTC phone I have seen devs jump ship due to forum/community issues, so I may be sensitive to these types of comment. I
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In my experience from other phones, 98% of roms are works in progress through the life of the phone. Yes most get to a "stable" point, which is subjective, but unless they're heavily stock-based it takes awhile if it ever gets to that point. Coming from an HTC phone I have seen devs jump ship due to forum/community issues, so I may be sensitive to these types of comment. I
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Id love sbreen long time if he spent one night on this... that guys a wizard
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True, but I actually am fairly upset, because while dubbsy claims to be doing this project, it may be detracting other devs from taking on the project themselves. I am getting tired of flashing each *new* update, which doesn't appear to be fixing any of the bugs. Then I have to odin, re flash etc etc, which takes hours of time. It has been over a month that I have been watching these projects and seen little improvement, and like I said, I am sure I am not the only person I speak for when I say this.
Going back to Nitro's as we speak. Hopefully I can get this 4g working this time
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I really don't care if you're upset to be honest. Don't follow my threads, and don't use my roms... Pretty simple really.
From the beginning I posted a proof of concept to prove data alone, nothing else. I said for devs to contact me and I'd send the files for them to maintain. When it was clear no one was going to pick up and run with it I started modifying the framework to be at least a bit more stable. With the open offer still out there to share a fully decompiled GE working folder in a shared cloud.
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