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I got to thinking recently. I love my Sony Tablet to death and use it daily, but I now have my Vita and once more software an support is up and running for it, I think I can see it cutting into my tablet-love.
Now from what I undersand the guts of a Vita (cpu/gpu) don't really work too well in a cell phone, but what about in the next Sony tablet? Sure it likely won't operate on the Vita OS and will use Android, but how desirable would this be in your opinions? How would its performance compare to the other tablets on the market?
Is there really any reason why the Vitas guts wouldn't work in an Android tablet? Personally I'd like to see a Sony tablet with the Vita OS, but unfortunately the software support isn't there yet and likely won't be for 6 months to a year.
So... thoughts?
I'm wondering if Sony will release another tablet.
Sales haven't been great and there's a lot of competition out there. If only they'd market it a bit and plug the plus points & differences over the ipad and other Android tablets, then I'm sure it would pinch more market share.
I'd also like to see better PS3 integration. Using it as a controller like the next gen wii.I'm sure the hardware is up to the job.
Sony will release another Tab, actually this tab is named one of the best tabs out there. But to get a premium and unique tab you have to pay right?
next tab is named S2 and will have quad core
That's good to hear. Must have taken a while to come up with the name.
yohandesilva1 said:
Sony will release another Tab, actually this tab is named one of the best tabs out there. But to get a premium and unique tab you have to pay right?
next tab is named S2 and will have quad core
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Yeah, it makes sense that it'll be quad core, but I'm wondering if it'd make more sense for them to port Vita the CPU/GPU into it, or go for the newer A15 quad cores that'll be coming out eventually. Anyone know enough about the Vita internals to know if they have any advantages over these newer chipsets?
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Yeah, it makes sense that it'll be quad core, but I'm wondering if it'd make more sense for them to port Vita the CPU/GPU into it, or go for the newer A15 quad cores that'll be coming out eventually. Anyone know enough about the Vita internals to know if they have any advantages over these newer chipsets?
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Just like PC and consoles, they are two totally different things
Vitas chipset runs in closed environment just like your PS3 or 360, which will always be optimise performance
So the same or slightly more powerful chip set will never match it because of this
But on paper, yeah I suppose, but if ya mean will A15 in a phone or a tab be able to run Uncharted the answer is no.
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Did you hear?
The Galaxy Note tablet was just officially announced today:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_off...axy_note_101_prior_to_its_event-news-4615.php
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Check out the interface where it allows multiple apps to appear on a single screen.
THIS multitasking ability is what I've been waiting for on Android platforms.
Any chance that we would see this kind of interface ported to our beautiful TF201?
What are your own thoughts? POST AWAY!
+1 to this post if you would like to see the same thing happening on our Transformer Primes!!
Did you know; there is a grave difference between an exclamation mark and a question mark?
If you did not know...then why not? If you did know then why did you use an exclamation mark instead of a question mark in the thread title?
There's already a system for this. Its called cornerstone. The problem is that is is so hard to implement into builds. There is a working build on rootz but it is not kept up or worked on.
But I do agree that something like this would be awesome to have on our tablets. There are many times I can use this.
Sent from my Transformer Infinity!
The new and improved Note 10.1 also has 2 gigs of ram. But from that video there's what 6 apps coded to do this?
Perfect tablet:
- Internals and software from Samsung
- Everything else (case and dock) from Asus
Nice tablet. The resolution and the type of display it uses is outdated though. Why didn't they go full HD? Aside from that, looks really good. I like the s pen feature. Why Samsung has to add touch wizard bloat on everything? Lol. I'm sure this device will run much faster/better with it removed or on a custom rom.
As for the interface, it looks cool but the chameleon one is more impressive. Its already in beta release. So this type of interface is here already for prime. Not to mention cornerstone builds being out for months already.
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Nice tablet. The resolution and the type of display it uses is outdated though. Why didn't they go full HD? Aside from that, looks really good. I like the s pen feature. Why Samsung has to add touch wizard bloat on everything? Lol. I'm sure this device will run much faster/better with it removed or on a custom rom.
As for the interface, it looks cool but the chameleon one is more impressive. Its already in beta release. So this type of interface is here already for prime. Not to mention cornerstone builds being out for months already.
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Actually, Samsungs year 2012 software is really good. The original ICS UI is more beautiful, but Samsung has made many good features in their rom and the "bloatware" UI runs as smooth if not even smoother than the original Android UI. Samsung has done some serious software optimization for their Exynos hardware and the UI and browser are using GPU acceleration efficiently.
If the default browser is even a bit as smooth as the browser in SGS3 then the Note 10.1 will be the first tablet that can be compared to iPad in terms of web browsing. The original Android web browser just is not as smooth as the default browser in iDevices, pinch to zoom lags more or less all the time.
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Actually, Samsungs year 2012 software is really good. The original ICS UI is more beautiful, but Samsung has made many good features in their rom and the "bloatware" UI runs as smooth if not even smoother than the original Android UI. Samsung has done some serious software optimization for their Exynos hardware and the UI and browser are using GPU acceleration efficiently.
If the default browser is even a bit as smooth as the browser in SGS3 then the Note 10.1 will be the first tablet that can be compared to iPad in terms of web browsing. The original Android web browser just is not as smooth as the default browser in iDevices, pinch to zoom lags more or less all the time.
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yeah it runs smooth on the video. not sure why not just come out with jb rom instead.
spec wise, this tablet exceeds expectations. my only gripe is the display. might be good for s pen usage but not sure how well itll be for watching 720p movies & such.
is it me or did the display look like it has a grid on it? or is this part of that particular display it uses to make good use of s pen?
i wish this tablet had a dock like prime/infinity pad. will be looking forward to more hands on reviews of it.
demandarin said:
Nice tablet. The resolution and the type of display it uses is outdated though. Why didn't they go full HD? Aside from that, looks really good. I like the s pen feature. Why Samsung has to add touch wizard bloat on everything? Lol. I'm sure this device will run much faster/better with it removed or on a custom rom.
As for the interface, it looks cool but the chameleon one is more impressive. Its already in beta release. So this type of interface is here already for prime. Not to mention cornerstone builds being out for months already.
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i wish this tablet had a dock like prime/infinity pad. will be looking forward to more hands on reviews of it.
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True. I am disappointed not any of the major Android makers havent brought their competitor for Transformer to the market. I think Asus needs a little kick to their ass from another manufacturers to get their software (or is it now the slow memory or something) up to a level it should be.
Lenovo's transformer type pad S2110 is suppose to be out in the US. Even though it is a dual core, it uses those Qualcomm next gen Krait cpu cores.
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Perfect tablet:
- Internals and software from Samsung
- Everything else (case and dock) from Asus
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yeah.. that way you'll have a performance beast with a screen that pops out, a dock that makes crispy noises when closed and a non-funtional gps ....
sorry but asus build quality isnt good ... it my look nice and thats about it...
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yeah.. that way you'll have a performance beast with a screen that pops out, a dock that makes crispy noises when closed and a non-funtional gps ....
sorry but asus build quality isnt good ... it my look nice and thats about it...
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Ok, lets change that to looks and materials from Prime but made by Sammy.
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yeah.. that way you'll have a performance beast with a screen that pops out, a dock that makes crispy noises when closed and a non-funtional gps ....
sorry but asus build quality isnt good ... it my look nice and thats about it...
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yea about that Crispy noises thing.
i just noticed that the other day with my dock. every time i close the tablet and dock, i hear a crispy noise almost sounds like glass breaking or sand in the glass pressing against it etc. it doesn't sounds good yet every time i look and clean the tablet and keyboard looking for anything that would cause interference i don't see or find anything. even pressing the glass to make sure nothing it loose or coming apart and I don't see anything.
wtf is that crispy sound.
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yea about that Crispy noises thing.
i just noticed that the other day with my dock. every time i close the tablet and dock, i hear a crispy noise almost sounds like glass breaking or sand in the glass pressing against it etc. it doesn't sounds good yet every time i look and clean the tablet and keyboard looking for anything that would cause interference i don't see or find anything. even pressing the glass to make sure nothing it loose or coming apart and I don't see anything.
wtf is that crispy sound.
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Do you have the screen lock sound on?
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It's the little screws beneath the rubber feet of the dock. There was a thread about it a while ago. I found a couple loose on mine after checking.
Carefully lift the feet, which are attached with double sided tape, and tighten the wee little screw hidden inside. My tape wanted to stay on the dock and not the foot.
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Nice tablet.
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I'll let you know. Mine's arriving Friday.
Why didn't they go full HD?
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I'm guessing because of the cost of a digitizer being made that much more granular on such a large display.
"While Samsung refused to confirm if the built-in digitizer is based on Wacom's technology, the company did reveal that it supports up to 256 levels of pressure sensitivity."
Why Samsung has to add touch wizard bloat on everything? Lol. I'm sure this device will run much faster/better with it removed or on a custom rom.
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That "bloat" is what's holding it all together. There's no native Android support for the level of screen sensitivity the Note has or for the psuedo-multitasking. Awake Stay and Pop-Up-Play are features from the SGS3 that have been carried over and make a lot more sense on a tablet than a phone.
As for the interface, it looks cool but the chameleon one is more impressive. Its already in beta release. So this type of interface is here already for prime. Not to mention cornerstone builds being out for months already.
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Good luck with 1GB of RAM.
BarryH_GEG said:
I'll let you know. Mine's arriving Friday.
I'm guessing because of the cost of a digitizer being made that much more granular on such a large display.
"While Samsung refused to confirm if the built-in digitizer is based on Wacom's technology, the company did reveal that it supports up to 256 levels of pressure sensitivity."
That "bloat" is what's holding it all together. There's no native Android support for the level of screen sensitivity the Note has or for the psuedo-multitasking. Awake Stay and Pop-Up-Play are features from the SGS3 that have been carried over and make a lot more sense on a tablet than a phone.
Good luck with 1GB of RAM.
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Wow, are you really? Hmm... I figured you would wait on Windows 8 tablets... if you waited this long since they are just around the corner.
Such as this one....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/08/lenovo-thinkpad-tablet-2-announced/
Of course, we will find more about W8 tablets soon from all OEMs.....
Edit: Btw, looking forward to your review...
hey buddy
BarryH_GEG said:
I'll let you know. Mine's arriving Friday.
I'm guessing because of the cost of a digitizer being made that much more granular on such a large display.
"While Samsung refused to confirm if the built-in digitizer is based on Wacom's technology, the company did reveal that it supports up to 256 levels of pressure sensitivity."
That "bloat" is what's holding it all together. There's no native Android support for the level of screen sensitivity the Note has or for the psuedo-multitasking. Awake Stay and Pop-Up-Play are features from the SGS3 that have been carried over and make a lot more sense on a tablet than a phone.
Good luck with 1GB of RAM.
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Long time no see please do a detailed review. Even better make a video of it. If it impresses me enough I might look into it(might be getting a new 10in. Tablet soon. Infinity pad seems to be the best out now but this tab is interesting and specs look good) I just wish the display was lil better. Its likely better in person.
But does the display really have a visible grid on it? Looked like it on the video. How good can THST be for watching movies or whatever?
I have a nexus7 now and loving the jellybean experience. This little tablet is a beast. I never thought I would like the 7in. Form factor so much. I already have it rooted and unlocked. Running stock rom and alternating between motley linaro based kernel with gpu OC to 520mhz and Morrific kernel. I/O is not an issue for me on nexus 7. On rl sqlite bench I get 16 secs. Overall now. On quadrant I'm scoring close to 7k+ overall and over 10k on I/O scores. Its funny how the budget priced nexus 7 has demolished all other android tablets in benchmarking. Its been all over the tech sites lately(about how nexus7 benches higher than any other android device when using Der kernel by mortiffic) One user scored over 7300 overall. And like over 14k on I/O. Even my chainfire benches show me crushing the Samsung galaxy S3 processor. My nenamark2 score is 64.7Fps. Nexus 7 is a great tablet period. Great developement support for it already and its still in infancy of release. All the best developers have one or plan on getting one.
So this is out in stores already? Uses quad core exynos?
Still rocking the tegra3 one X? I hear galaxy note2 is dropping soon. Might have flexible display like Sammy demonstrated before.
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shinzz said:
Wow, are you really? Hmm... I figured you would wait on Windows 8 tablets... if you waited this long since they are just around the corner.
Such as this one....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/08/lenovo-thinkpad-tablet-2-announced/
Of course, we will find more about W8 tablets soon from all OEMs.....
Edit: Btw, looking forward to your review...
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Only bad thing about THST Lenovo seems to be the fact its going to use an atom. Based on comments section on THST article, not fairing well with potential buyers. Is this the new variant(more powerfuk/battery friendly)described way back for tablets? What about those other Intel chips mentioned to be use by win8 tablets?
I'm always anxious to try latest tech but do you think e.mote might be right when he said might be best to wait for next generation win8 tablets. No matter if arm or Intel powered. This initial release of win8 tabs. Will have its growing pains.
demandarin said:
Long time no see please do a detailed review. Even better make a video of it. If it impresses me enough I might look into it(might be getting a new 10in. Tablet soon. Infinity pad seems to be the best out now but this tab is interesting and specs look good) I just wish the display was lil better. Its likely better in person.
But does the display really have a visible grid on it? Looked like it on the video. How good can THST be for watching movies or whatever?
I have a nexus7 now and loving the jellybean experience. This little tablet is a beast. I never thought I would like the 7in. Form factor so much. I already have it rooted and unlocked. Running stock rom and alternating between motley linaro based kernel with gpu OC to 520mhz and Morrific kernel. I/O is not an issue for me on nexus 7. On rl sqlite bench I get 16 secs. Overall now. On quadrant I'm scoring close to 7k+ overall and over 10k on I/O scores. Its funny how the budget priced nexus 7 has demolished all other android tablets in benchmarking. Its been all over the tech sites lately(about how nexus7 benches higher than any other android device when using Der kernel by mortiffic) One user scored over 7300 overall. And like over 14k on I/O. Even my chainfire benches show me crushing the Samsung galaxy S3 processor. My nenamark2 score is 64.7Fps. Nexus 7 is a great tablet period. Great developement support for it already and its still in infancy of release. All the best developers have one or plan on getting one.
So this is out in stores already? Uses quad core exynos?
Still rocking the tegra3 one X? I hear galaxy note2 is dropping soon. Might have flexible display like Sammy demonstrated before.
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Only bad thing about THST Lenovo seems to be the fact its going to use an atom. Based on comments section on THST article, not fairing well with potential buyers. Is this the new variant(more powerfuk/battery friendly)described way back for tablets? What about those other Intel chips mentioned to be use by win8 tablets?
I'm always anxious to try latest tech but do you think e.mote might be right when he said might be best to wait for next generation win8 tablets. No matter if arm or Intel powered. This initial release of win8 tabs. Will have its growing pains.
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The Intel ATOM the article is referring to is either Medfield (hopefully not) or Cloverfield (this is the dual-core one) SoC. The Intel Atom comments are referring to old Intel Atom processors... during the netbook days. And rightfully... they were weak....& those who had bad exp. with netbooks will probably be weary about it...
During Computex... Asus Tablet 810 was on Medfield... although, hopefully.. when it actually releases.. I hope it will be Cloverfield as pretty much all Atom based tablets will be on Cloverfield.
To break it down to you:
1.) Intel Medfield/Cloverfield & AMD Trinity vs. ARM SoC
This will be for cheaper version of Win 8 tablets. Medfield/Cloverfield/Trinity are x86 SoC that are designed to compete with ARM SoC.
2.) Intel i3/i5/i7 vs AMD FX, Phenom.. whatever AMD has next
This will be for those who need power (but crap battery life).
Again, if I were you... I'll stay away from WinRT.. or ARM tablets for Windows 8. Simply no reason to purchase them at launch....
I would go for Intel Cloverfield tablet.... or just one of the i3/i5/i7 ones.
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I figured you would wait on Windows 8 tablets.
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I survived Android 3.1 and Teg2 on a tablet with Android. I don't want to go through that again with W8. It'll take W8 tablets a while to shake out. Meantime ICS (and soon JB), decent SoC's, and Google getting in to the tablet business will accelerate the maturation of Android tablets. I really use my tablet for occasional productivity work like MS Office and usually editing not creating. Most of the time it's a consumption device and that's going to take W8 a while to get to the same level. I'm kind of disappointed in the non-HD display but the big get is the ability to use it for handwritten notes. From what I've read a great deal of W8, even in RT, isn't fully touch enabled. Depending on the degree that's true I think people will be disappointed. And don't laugh but being able to use it as a phone is a big benfit too. For Skype and long conference calls its massive battery will come in handy. My old G-Tab's on my plan as an extra phone so unlimited voice, messaging, and data is the same $20 a month.
Here's a link to the users manual. It's got some pretty cool features. Suffering from ADD (jk) the ability to watch movies via Pop-Up-Play and do other stuff is pretty cool. It also has Buddy Share social tagging for pictures which works with local shots as well as anything you import. It's really like a big SGS3 minus NFC.
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...ng_Icecream_English_120803_PC/start_here.html
demandarin said:
Long time no see please do a detailed review. Even better make a video of it. If it impresses me enough I might look into it(might be getting a new 10in. Tablet soon. Infinity pad seems to be the best out now but this tab is interesting and specs look
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I've been lurking but it's been pretty quiet around here. Maybe that's because I stopped stirring the pot. I was looking at the Infinity because it's supposed to come out in a 3G version. The QC issues are tamer than what the Prime launched with but still there. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
I just wish the display was lil better. Its likely better in person.
But does the display really have a visible grid on it? Looked like it on the video. How good can THST be for watching movies or whatever?
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I'm guessing it's a totally different display than what's been used in the past because of the digitizer. The G-Tab 2's display was noted as inferior to the original by the reviewers. And god I hope the grids not visible; that would suck.
Even my chainfire benches show me crushing the Samsung galaxy S3 processor.
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I know you like benchmarks. Someone posted one. It's better than the SGS3 I'm guessing because of the lower resolution of the display and additional RAM. Going from my One X to my old G-Tab was painful. I'm looking forward to my tablet at least keeping up with my phone.
So this is out in stores already? Uses quad core exynos?
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Negri got some 16GB 3G models in. They gave one to TechnoBuffalo to do an unboxing vid. All the labeling was in spanish so I'm guess this early batch is from Latin America. It's not cheap but based on the European pricing it would be about the same if I waited for it to be released in the UK because of the exchange rate. The 16GB Wi-Fi versions's supposed to be $499 I think. It's the same Exynos/Mali SoC that's in the SGS3 with an additional GB of RAM.
Here are the specs if you're interested.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note_10.1/
I'm glad you guys are still hanging out. It's kind of like old home week.
I usually do not start threads and hang in the shadows here on xda, but I love the site and all the awesome development.
With that said:
Please do not close this thread - This is not a question, or a discussion about a computer. The new Samsung Chromebook with the ARM chip is basically an Android tablet built like a laptop running chrome. It has a Samsung Exynos 5 Dual processor, so this falls under Android development and HACKING for devices that do not have a forum on XDA.
So I have this device and I have to say, it's very well built for the price. The only negative is that it runs Chrome. Now - I'm not here to bash on Chrome OS and I don't need a discussion on the pros and cons of it...
The point of starting this thread is to get Android ported over to this thing. I actually went out and purchased it at Best Buy because I knew that I could go to xda-developers a week later and someone will post instructions on how to install Android. Didn't happen. Not sure why.
So please chime in on ideas on how to get the ball rolling. Who do we have to buy a Chromebook for to make this happen? Do we start a bounty?
Let's keep the xda-developer community going strong! Thank you.
Like you, I did the same.
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I usually do not start threads and hang in the shadows here on xda, but I love the site and all the awesome development.
With that said:
Please do not close this thread - This is not a question, or a discussion about a computer. The new Samsung Chromebook with the ARM chip is basically an Android tablet built like a laptop running chrome. It has a Samsung Exynos 5 Dual processor, so this falls under Android development and HACKING for devices that do not have a forum on XDA.
So I have this device and I have to say, it's very well built for the price. The only negative is that it runs Chrome. Now - I'm not here to bash on Chrome OS and I don't need a discussion on the pros and cons of it...
The point of starting this thread is to get Android ported over to this thing. I actually went out and purchased it at Best Buy because I knew that I could go to xda-developers a week later and someone will post instructions on how to install Android. Didn't happen. Not sure why.
So please chime in on ideas on how to get the ball rolling. Who do we have to buy a Chromebook for to make this happen? Do we start a bounty?
Let's keep the xda-developer community going strong! Thank you.
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As this is arm based I thought for sure there would be an android build for it, a cheaper asus transformer.. its a perfect platform really for Android - I am surprised there isn't more discussion on getting JB ported to this chromebook. Is there any interest?
It has the same Exynos 5 SoC as the Nexus 10, so it seems like it should be possible to get something working for it if it can be hacked to boot another OS. Seems like a kernel based off the Nexus 10 source would be possible.
Google doesn't want Android to be a desktop style OS which is part of the reason they ended the Motorola lapdock after they took over Motorola. But if this thing had Android on it for $249 its a pretty good deal considering it has an Exynos 5.
Samsung Chromebook A15 Exynos
There has been much progress porting Ubuntu Raring Ringtail and Quantal Quetzal to this thing. I look forward to being able to choose between running stable Android and stable Ubuntu (or other distros, even).
With that said, I think that although this device is selling out I'm not sure that enough of these users will be aware of how close this device is to being a true, first Android laptop. From benchmarks I've seen on Phoronix.com the Exynos Dual in this Samsung Series 3 XE303 Chromebook is at least twice as fast as the Tegra 3 Quad in processing and graphics tasks.
Many people don't seem to see the value of Android as a fuller OS that would flourish within a laptop hardware suite. I argue that it is because they do not see the possibilities that software such as ParanoidAndroid would allow for with it's per-app DPI settings and ability to force a Phone, Phablet, or Tablet UI for every single app you run. These features are core to getting the most productivity out of a Samsung XE303 running Android.
I do enjoy the ChromeOS/ChromiumOS interface much because it is simple enough to have a low learning curve, yet it has enough options available to it to be somewhat powerful in the productivity department. It is indeed lacking in its offline capabilities, though. And Android would fix those and then some.
I guess I should also mention that the latest 4.2.1 Android ninja tweaked the native support for gamepads including Sixaxis controllers and Xbow controllers. Now you can game with them for apps that support the controllers. Neat.
Android can be kind of awkward with mouse/keyboard input only. But its the app compatibility of Android which is the biggest selling point. Since it contains a very capable ARM SoC this thing should run all of the latest games on Android no problem.
I'm fairly sure that there are a large number of ASUS Transformer + Dock users that would say they are quite happy with the touchpad/keyboard input on Android 4+.
As for the touchpad and and keyboard on the XE303, it is STELLAR under ChromeOS. Getting it to match under Android is simply a matter of hardware tweaking.
All the Android apps and games I've purchased deserve to be utilized on this device.
+1 for this idea - just got my chromebook today!
disynthetic said:
There has been much progress porting Ubuntu Raring Ringtail and Quantal Quetzal to this thing. I look forward to being able to choose between running stable Android and stable Ubuntu (or other distros, even).
With that said, I think that although this device is selling out I'm not sure that enough of these users will be aware of how close this device is to being a true, first Android laptop. From benchmarks I've seen on Phoronix.com the Exynos Dual in this Samsung Series 3 XE303 Chromebook is at least twice as fast as the Tegra 3 Quad in processing and graphics tasks.
Many people don't seem to see the value of Android as a fuller OS that would flourish within a laptop hardware suite. I argue that it is because they do not see the possibilities that software such as ParanoidAndroid would allow for with it's per-app DPI settings and ability to force a Phone, Phablet, or Tablet UI for every single app you run. These features are core to getting the most productivity out of a Samsung XE303 running Android.
I do enjoy the ChromeOS/ChromiumOS interface much because it is simple enough to have a low learning curve, yet it has enough options available to it to be somewhat powerful in the productivity department. It is indeed lacking in its offline capabilities, though. And Android would fix those and then some.
I guess I should also mention that the latest 4.2.1 Android ninja tweaked the native support for gamepads including Sixaxis controllers and Xbow controllers. Now you can game with them for apps that support the controllers. Neat.
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Who exactly is making progress and how do I sign up. How do we get a dedicated forum fired up for this? Let's get this party started, my chrome book should be in in Monday!
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OK I answered my own question. The Ubuntu port instructions can be found here... http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.com/2012/04/chrubuntu-1204-now-with-double-bits.html
I'd still love to see a JB port.
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Who exactly is making progress and how do I sign up. How do we get a dedicated forum fired up for this? Let's get this party started, my chrome book should be in in Monday!
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OK I answered my own question. The Ubuntu port instructions can be found here... http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.com/2012/04/chrubuntu-1204-now-with-double-bits.html
I'd still love to see a JB port.
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Me too... I was reading about the Chromebook and thought... ARM CPU needs Android. The games on ChromeOS look pretty damn awful and Android would also bring many emulators to life.. Amiga, Atari, DosBox, Nintendo... And you could do what ChromeOS does in Android but with all the Android extras.
If there was Android for the XE303 Chromebook I'd buy one tomorrow.. maybe two!
Texting
I do a lot of texting, hundreds and hundreds of messages a day.
The only tolerable way used to be Google Voice, but they recently lowered their daily sms limit (that limit is only imposed if you txt through a computer). So my new solution is this: tether my phone to a tablet that has TabletTalk and a keyboard and go at it from there. The Chromebook seemed like a good alternative to that route.
Please don't ignore the community that needs this.
I think JB on the chromebook would be beast. From the score ubuntu is beast! lol. I cant wait till its outta beta. I have had my CB for almost a week, Already bored with the OS. Cant do anything hardly. Time to flash already. Please keep the thread going as we keep it updated more will see and hopefully a dev will step up and tame this beast from the inside out. Thank you for starting this thread. :good::good:
Started working on this already seems the BOOT partition needs to be rewritten to work with UEFI...Anybody wanna help..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951114&page=2
I wouldnt bet on a 12" ARM chromebook, rumors say some people at google are getting tired of the chromebook not getting enough traction and are thinking about axing the project, perhaps even the OS itself.
Personally I wouldn't care since they might finally realize the potential of android on laptops and launch a "Nexus 12"
Anyway, any news with the port?
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I wouldnt bet on a 12" ARM chromebook, rumors say some people at google are getting tired of the chromebook not getting enough traction and are thinking about axing the project, perhaps even the OS itself.
Personally I wouldn't care since they might finally realize the potential of android on laptops and launch a "Nexus 12"
Anyway, any news with the port?
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I don't think they would put Android on a laptop seeing as it's not optimized for that type of hardware, but don't get me wrong it would be sweet, however the OS might be able to take advantage of of certain Input controls such as Keyboard, Mouse, Flash Drives etc... most 3rd party apps wont support it or be optimized for it. However a Hybrid ChromeOS/Android may work very well where you have a Standard Chrome OS base with the Ability to run certain android Apps that have been written to take advantage of such input devices. As far as the OS itself it's actually Open source so in theory it should be possible to allow the running of android apps without Google them selves implementing it. it just might be a little challenging.
Figured I'd bump and share.
Got my CB a week or so ago and so far it's been a pretty good device for when I instantly need a new tab open in a desktop format so I can use a full site and keyboard. Today I loaded up the alpha Ubuntu 12.04 build and so far I'm thrilled that I got this full fledged desktop OS on a 250 dollar solid state machine. I might get another 1 or 2 lol
Android could make it even better, especially PA since it has the different layout settings.
Linux + Chrome + Android - $250 = dope laptop
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Figured I'd bump and share.
Got my CB a week or so ago and so far it's been a pretty good device for when I instantly need a new tab open in a desktop format so I can use a full site and keyboard. Today I loaded up the alpha Ubuntu 12.04 build and so far I'm thrilled that I got this full fledged desktop OS on a 250 dollar solid state machine. I might get another 1 or 2 lol
Android could make it even better, especially PA since it has the different layout settings.
Linux + Chrome + Android - $250 = dope laptop
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I'm waiting for Ubuntu to come off of beta and then I'm there!!!! Lol. Its badass for 250.00
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Anyone fancy attempting to get RISC OS running on this, as an alternative desktop OS?
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Anyone fancy attempting to get RISC OS running on this, as an alternative desktop OS?
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Would be nice....However got my hands full trying to get the N10 system image booting the CB..does look very interesting I might add.
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Would be nice....However got my hands full trying to get the N10 system image booting the CB..does look very interesting I might add.
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Less posting, more developing!!! Seriously though, waiting and watching patiently... Good luck!
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hands full trying to get the N10 system image booting the CB
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I expect you'll get there sooner or later - keep at it!
..does look very interesting I might add.
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It should fly on this thing, even only using a single core.
Hi guys! I noticed there are no threads here about cheap tablets with the quad core MT8389 chip. Tabs with this CPU have more phone features than those running on Rockchip or Allwinner. For instance, this tab called Freelander PX2 has 3G and GPS. Most of all, it is dual SIM! You can see the full specs here: http://www.chinatabletreview.com/freelander-px2
Now I do not see many tablets with these 3 features combined. But I'm pretty sure this tab may have some bugs and as with most Chinese tablets, support for firmware updates could be a problem. I just hope there are already people who have developed ROMs for these tablets. Are there any? If not, maybe we should pay more attention to these tabs...
For the $155 they're charging, the HiSense Sero 7 Pro is a better buy at $129. Higher res screen (1280x800), same quad core CPU. HiSense has 5 point multi touch though (vs 10 point on the PX2). The built in 3G is a bit moot because the bands will mostly get you 2G EDGE data on any GSM carrier in the U.S (although the 850 band might get you 3G on AT&T in *some * areas where they have 3G on 850).
Thanks for the info LordLugard! HiSense Sero 7 Pro looks good with that price. Surely a great buy!
Do you own a HiSense Sero 7 Pro tablet LordLugard? Could you give us a short review of that tab?
I don't own one but reviews are all over the web and very positive. Just go a general Google search.
Here are a few:
http://www.androidcentral.com/hisense-sero-7-pro-review
http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/tablets/hisense-sero-7-pro.aspx
Great find!
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For the $155 they're charging, the HiSense Sero 7 Pro is a better buy at $129. Higher res screen (1280x800), same quad core CPU. HiSense has 5 point multi touch though (vs 10 point on the PX2). The built in 3G is a bit moot because the bands will mostly get you 2G EDGE data on any GSM carrier in the U.S (although the 850 band might get you 3G on AT&T in *some * areas where they have 3G on 850).
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Great find LordLugard! I bought the Freelander PX2 a week back from Aliexpress because I thought they would have it cheap if anything. It's a 155USD shipped with DHL and it works like a dream. Only problem is the screen! If the HiSense Sero 7 is good, it'll be evem better with a lower price and better screen!
I would love to try out the HiSense Sero 7 Pro! Any clue where you can get them?
Everything works as spec-ed out. Only thing is that althought it seems to have a proximity or light sensor it isn't working or supported yet. Other than that it's great.
It is root-able with "Framaroot-1.6.0.apk" from an xda thread
And the manufacturer supposedly provides the stock firmware (not confirmed though)
The Sero 7 Pro looks PERFECT!
Edit! Any idea if they will be available for international customers? I would love to get a couple!
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Great find LordLugard! I bought the Freelander PX2 a week back from Aliexpress because I thought they would have it cheap if anything. It's a 155USD shipped with DHL and it works like a dream. Only problem is the screen! If the HiSense Sero 7 is good, it'll be evem better with a lower price and better screen!
I would love to try out the HiSense Sero 7 Pro! Any clue where you can get them?
Everything works as spec-ed out. Only thing is that althought it seems to have a proximity or light sensor it isn't working or supported yet. Other than that it's great.
It is root-able with "Framaroot-1.6.0.apk" from an xda thread
And the manufacturer supposedly provides the stock firmware (not confirmed though)
The Sero 7 Pro looks PERFECT!
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Unfortunately the Hisense Sero 7 Pro is exclusive to WalMart stores in the U.S (I notice you're in Singapore) http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hisense-Sero-7-Pro-7-Tablet-Quad-Core-Processor-with-8GB-Memory/24805142. But i'll wager they might be available on eBay or thereabouts.
A general eBay search comes up with this http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...C0&_nkw=hisense+sero+7+pro&_sacat=0&_from=R40
Good luck.
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Unfortunately the Hisense Sero 7 Pro is exclusive to WalMart stores in the U.S (I notice you're in Singapore) http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hisense-Sero-7-Pro-7-Tablet-Quad-Core-Processor-with-8GB-Memory/24805142. But i'll wager they might be available on eBay or thereabouts.
A general eBay search comes up with this http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...C0&_nkw=hisense+sero+7+pro&_sacat=0&_from=R40
Good luck.
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Thanks LordLugard! Yea it seems like it Perhaps I could get someone to ship it over for me too! Yes they do! Thanks again Sometimes it's better to use ebay's main site rather than the respective countrys' to get all the items. Perhaps use a mail forwarding service in the US. Thanks again man! Quick reply too! It's 0730 here in Singapore
Noticed the Sero 7 Pro has no inbuilt SIM slots for 3G. The PX2 has Dual SIM (not that I even use them) and has call function too, being a phablet. But the Sero 7 Pro seems to be rock solid with NFC, HD screen (at least 720p!), dual speakers, 4000mAh (PX2 3200mAh) and most importantly would be its ability to attract developers and has support. I see updates that HiSense will bring Android 4.3 in too!
I forgot to mention the Freelander PX2 only has 5 point multi touch. If any sources say otherwise that's fake specs!
Thanks for the input guys! HiSense Sero 7 Pro is definitely a keeper. Are there any other MT8389 tablets that are noteworthy?
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Great find LordLugard! I bought the Freelander PX2 a week back from Aliexpress because I thought they would have it cheap if anything. It's a 155USD shipped with DHL and it works like a dream. Only problem is the screen! If the HiSense Sero 7 is good, it'll be evem better with a lower price and better screen!
I would love to try out the HiSense Sero 7 Pro! Any clue where you can get them?
Everything works as spec-ed out. Only thing is that althought it seems to have a proximity or light sensor it isn't working or supported yet. Other than that it's great.
It is root-able with "Framaroot-1.6.0.apk" from an xda thread
And the manufacturer supposedly provides the stock firmware (not confirmed though)
The Sero 7 Pro looks PERFECT!
Edit! Any idea if they will be available for international customers? I would love to get a couple!
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Hi felix.chia! Could you tell us your impressions with your Freelander PX2?
Impressions
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Hi felix.chia! Could you tell us your impressions with your Freelander PX2?
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I bought this tablet after comparing it with other Chinese tablets/phablets. I'd say if your budget is about 160USD shipped then this 7" Phablet is the perfect choice. The specs are as listed and feels true to them. It is a very speedy tablet. Processing wise as well as surfing with Wifi or 3G. I went to look for ways to root it. xda forum has a method and it works with the Freelander PX2.
Only relative cons are well its screen which isn't at least 720p for HD videos and the screen is slightly white-ish regarding its contrast. Something I've seen on alot of reviews for Chinese screens. Nothing major but just to know. I will see if I can get screenshots of benchmarks I've done (Antutu, Vellamo, 3DMark, Quadrant). The speaker is a just a little softer than brand names. Of course the important point is that you get what you paid for and I'd say the Freelander PX2 has every buck squeezed out for the best fit of hardware
One teeny weeny itch is perhaps its Processor which states MTK8389. On every benchmarking app it too shows the specs are all in order. Except for CPU Identifier app from Play Store as well as when you plug it in to your pc/laptop it shows it as MTK65xx. Nothing to go crazy over but for those who're really picky, it might bug you. Nevertheless it's extremely speedy. I'm really happy with it. I think if you tried it you would get one for yourself. I got one for myself and everyone wants one Cheap and definitely good.
Just dont expect (serious) development on this Mediatek SoC.
Mediatek uses alot of Closed Sources..
All the last SoC Sources (MT6575, MT6577; MT6589, etc) are missing those important sources, and without it, theres no way to compile an fully working kernel, or compile an rom from source.
So, think better before buying...
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I bought this tablet after comparing it with other Chinese tablets/phablets. I'd say if your budget is about 160USD shipped then this 7" Phablet is the perfect choice. The specs are as listed and feels true to them. It is a very speedy tablet. Processing wise as well as surfing with Wifi or 3G. I went to look for ways to root it. xda forum has a method and it works with the Freelander PX2.
Only relative cons are well its screen which isn't at least 720p for HD videos and the screen is slightly white-ish regarding its contrast. Something I've seen on alot of reviews for Chinese screens. Nothing major but just to know. I will see if I can get screenshots of benchmarks I've done (Antutu, Vellamo, 3DMark, Quadrant). The speaker is a just a little softer than brand names. Of course the important point is that you get what you paid for and I'd say the Freelander PX2 has every buck squeezed out for the best fit of hardware
One teeny weeny itch is perhaps its Processor which states MTK8389. On every benchmarking app it too shows the specs are all in order. Except for CPU Identifier app from Play Store as well as when you plug it in to your pc/laptop it shows it as MTK65xx. Nothing to go crazy over but for those who're really picky, it might bug you. Nevertheless it's extremely speedy. I'm really happy with it. I think if you tried it you would get one for yourself. I got one for myself and everyone wants one Cheap and definitely good.
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Strange but I think I have already read this somewhere else. Is this you thegauntlet?
good info
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Just dont expect (serious) development on this Mediatek SoC.
Mediatek uses alot of Closed Sources..
All the last SoC Sources (MT6575, MT6577; MT6589, etc) are missing those important sources, and without it, theres no way to compile an fully working kernel, or compile an rom from source.
So, think better before buying...
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Thanks superdragonpt for that insight! Nevertheless I must say without development the Freelancer PX2 does meet the needs of budget users. I would love for yhr HiSense Sero 7 Pro to be available internationally but the price would probably be higher.
Really depends on your uses. For a 155USD DHL Shipped you cannot go wrong.
Budget users would love it.
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Strange but I think I have already read this somewhere else. Is this you thegauntlet?
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Hey toffzter, yes it is me. Sorry been busy and its the same so I wrote the same impressions. I'm currently hospitalized so the PX2 has been great company!
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Hey toffzter, yes it is me. Sorry been busy and its the same so I wrote the same impressions. I'm currently hospitalized so the PX2 has been great company!
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Hi felix.chia! Sorry to hear about your hospitalization. No worries because your review at slatedroid is very informative. Sorry too that I asked for your impressions, again. I didn't know it was you.
Anyway, get well soon! I hope Freelander PX2 will take good care of you while you're there!
The HiSense Sero 7 Pro seems to only support Bluetooth 3.0, however, while the MT8389 tabs should have Bluetooth 4.0.
Do you guys know if the MT8389 tablets support Bluetooth 4.0 Low Energy, though? They don't run Android 4.3 (which is when BLE support was introduced), but in some places around the web, the 8389 tablets claim to support Bluetooth Low Energy.
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The HiSense Sero 7 Pro seems to only support Bluetooth 3.0, however, while the MT8389 tabs should have Bluetooth 4.0.
Do you guys know if the MT8389 tablets support Bluetooth 4.0 Low Energy, though? They don't run Android 4.3 (which is when BLE support was introduced), but in some places around the web, the 8389 tablets claim to support Bluetooth Low Energy.
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I'm not sure about BLE. Maybe we'll have to wait until these tabs run on Android 4.3.
I own the 3 of them Hisence, the freelander and the HD-89 with the MTK8389
Why I own the 3 of them? by mistake First I got the Hisence from Walmart with a 2 years protection plan and i need a cheap plan cell phone as well So I end up looking for one and ebaying a bit i found the freelander. Mean time the Hisence burned the battery so it was send for repairs and been a month and not returns of the Hisence. I was happy with my cell phone plan net10 good data speed, good coverage area, again found the Freelander 7" phablet. but I got disappointed because the volume was so low and was not taking the battery charge, try it to get my money back or an exchange, It was a total frustration, I almost put it in the trash can; one day I went to the attic and by a chance saw a Motorola cable and charger. Decided to give the Freelander a try and it began to chargeeee. But I already ebaying a bit and found the MTK8389 and I end up buying because in my work, I need one fast. Impress with the delivering, It worked good out of the box, The ATT net10 sim card worked super fine just added data networks and I got a very fast. Still I have plans for the other tablets, my family plan on Net10 will use them following that afeter the fullcharge in the Freelander all its failures dessapeared. Hisence has a HDMI and just a 5MP rear camera and not cell phone abilities. the other 2 will do very well as the monstrous smart phone in the market for just 200 bucks. The HD-89 Mini 3G has an 8mp camera that i need for my work, and impresive movie palying. Have not test its HDMI functions yet. so far so good. I may try to do some rooting later. :laugh:
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One teeny weeny itch is perhaps its Processor which states MTK8389. On every benchmarking app it too shows the specs are all in order. Except for CPU Identifier app from Play Store as well as when you plug it in to your pc/laptop it shows it as MTK65xx. Nothing to go crazy over but for those who're really picky, it might bug you.
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Are you sure it isn't due to a previous MT65xx driver already installed on your PC?
Freelander px2
felix.chia said:
I bought this tablet after comparing it with other Chinese tablets/phablets. I'd say if your budget is about 160USD shipped then this 7" Phablet is the perfect choice. The specs are as listed and feels true to them. It is a very speedy tablet. Processing wise as well as surfing with Wifi or 3G. I went to look for ways to root it. xda forum has a method and it works with the Freelander PX2.
Only relative cons are well its screen which isn't at least 720p for HD videos and the screen is slightly white-ish regarding its contrast. Something I've seen on alot of reviews for Chinese screens. Nothing major but just to know. I will see if I can get screenshots of benchmarks I've done (Antutu, Vellamo, 3DMark, Quadrant). The speaker is a just a little softer than brand names. Of course the important point is that you get what you paid for and I'd say the Freelander PX2 has every buck squeezed out for the best fit of hardware
One teeny weeny itch is perhaps its Processor which states MTK8389. On every benchmarking app it too shows the specs are all in order. Except for CPU Identifier app from Play Store as well as when you plug it in to your pc/laptop it shows it as MTK65xx. Nothing to go crazy over but for those who're really picky, it might bug you. Nevertheless it's extremely speedy. I'm really happy with it. I think if you tried it you would get one for yourself. I got one for myself and everyone wants one Cheap and definitely good.
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Antutu does seem to indicate wrong CPU number although using app CPU identifier shows correct CPU number - Its still a brill tablet for the money....
I've had my Freelander PX2 for a month now and I think it's a great device for the money but when I'm out and about using 3g I get a reboot 2/3 times a day
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Hey there guys, I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the best Android TV device is on the market. Only catch, it has to be rootable. I do not really care if it is a dongle or some other kind of unit. As long as it is rootable, and runts 4.2 + android.
Any suggestions or ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Anyone?
Best Android TV
Hi. The best on my opinion is the Razer Forge, if you plan to play games on top hardware developed for Android and enjoy 4k streaming(full HD). About rooting possibility, don't know yet but almost all devices like these allow it if not now, early will.
Forgetting my advise you won't fail buying a Minix X8 H Plus... Its 4k even.
Best regards!
nicaroxo said:
Hi. The best on my opinion is the Razer Forge, if you plan to play games on top hardware developed for Android and enjoy 4k streaming(full HD). About rooting possibility, don't know yet but almost all devices like these allow it if not now, early will.
Forgetting my advise you won't fail buying a Minix X8 H Plus... Its 4k even.
Best regards!
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What about a gbox q?
G Box Q
Awesome specs, but not available in my country yet! Better price either. Some reviews gave outstanding performance on 4k. Why not?
nicaroxo said:
Awesome specs, but not available in my country yet! Better price either. Some reviews gave outstanding performance on 4k. Why not?
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Thanks dude.... I appreciate it
I bought a Tronfy MX-IV, looking at some of the other boxes it has the same design as the Beelink. Quite satisfied with it. Runs 4.4.2 with Kodi 14.2, 4k support. But i do recommend buying an airmouse. Most of these boxes come with a simple IR remote.
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The G Box Q is an older MX2 Dual Core System.
Depending on what you need I'd go with the following in this order.
Google Nexus ADT-1 <- GET THIS
nVidia Shield TV <- Or that
If you want to Game! since these both have the nVida Tegra 4 GPU, and you can hack the ADT-1 to use the nVidia Service to play Half-Life 2 in it
On the Chinese side....
Minix Neo x8-H Plus <- Probably the BEST DEVICE you can get for ~150.00€ GigE, 802.11ac, Hardware decode of h.265 >2160p*
Beelink S82 Plus (Or any other Generic S82 Plus [2G/16G] Device you can find. Amlogic S812 SoC) <- Again these should be slightly cheaper though they are S812 SoCs they lack a number of features such as GigE 802.11ac and Hardware decode.
Slightly cheaper still are the current dead-end products such as the MXIII, S82 / S89 - S802 SoC Boxes. The "Trick" here is to miss the 1G/8G Units and, go straight on for the better 2G/8G, which have 802.11 a/b/g/n, and Bluetooth. These all have Arm Mali GPUs which are great, but not really in the same league with nVidia. If your just want a cheap efficient replacement for that HTPC then these are the right Boxes for you.
*NOTE You have to make sure your getting the *-H Plus version the lower Plus version with out the "H" only does Software decode >720p.
You'll note it in the slight price difference. In the end its about what you're willing to pay up font for!
If you're waiting for an Android TV Device, wait for the Nvidia Shield Android TV. It will be the most powerful device there, and it will also be able to output 4k and 7.1 surround sound. I have the Razer Forge TV, and while it's nice, I don't have Netflix Support.
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If you're waiting for an Android TV Device, wait for the Nvidia Shield Android TV. It will be the most powerful device there, and it will also be able to output 4k and 7.1 surround sound. I have the Razer Forge TV, and while it's nice, I don't have Netflix Support.
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specs look awesome for that, but you think it would be rootable? and run Kodi? (not a big fan of Plex)
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specs look awesome for that, but you think it would be rootable? and run Kodi? (not a big fan of Plex)
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Forge can run Kodi, as well as the Nexus Player, so I'd assume the Shield TV can as well. Though I'm returning my Forge TV, as the No Netflix has really gotten to me.
Ichijoe said:
The G Box Q is an older MX2 Dual Core System.
Depending on what you need I'd go with the following in this order.
Google Nexus ADT-1 <- GET THIS
nVidia Shield TV <- Or that
If you want to Game! since these both have the nVida Tegra 4 GPU, and you can hack the ADT-1 to use the nVidia Service to play Half-Life 2 in it
On the Chinese side....
Minix Neo x8-H Plus <- Probably the BEST DEVICE you can get for ~150.00€ GigE, 802.11ac, Hardware decode of h.265 >2160p*
Beelink S82 Plus (Or any other Generic S82 Plus [2G/16G] Device you can find. Amlogic S812 SoC) <- Again these should be slightly cheaper though they are S812 SoCs they lack a number of features such as GigE 802.11ac and Hardware decode.
Slightly cheaper still are the current dead-end products such as the MXIII, S82 / S89 - S802 SoC Boxes. The "Trick" here is to miss the 1G/8G Units and, go straight on for the better 2G/8G, which have 802.11 a/b/g/n, and Bluetooth. These all have Arm Mali GPUs which are great, but not really in the same league with nVidia. If your just want a cheap efficient replacement for that HTPC then these are the right Boxes for you.
*NOTE You have to make sure your getting the *-H Plus version the lower Plus version with out the "H" only does Software decode >720p.
You'll note it in the slight price difference. In the end its about what you're willing to pay up font for!
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This guy is giving sound advice and seems to know what he is talking about.
I have bought several devices and have come to find that MINIX has the best boxes and makes the most progress with them. Plus it seems to have the biggest development community pumping out ROMS and early releases of firmware.
I currently have both and MINIX x8-h and a MINIX x8-h plus. I normally keep them rooted and on the latest FinlessBob ROM. They play everything I throw at them, from locally stored videos, to YouTube, to Amazon Prime or Netflix, or other less talked about streaming apps.
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This guy is giving sound advice and seems to know what he is talking about.
I have bought several devices and have come to find that MINIX has the best boxes and makes the most progress with them. Plus it seems to have the biggest development community pumping out ROMS and early releases of firmware.
I currently have both and MINIX x8-h and a MINIX x8-h plus. I normally keep them rooted and on the latest FinlessBob ROM. They play everything I throw at them, from locally stored videos, to YouTube, to Amazon Prime or Netflix, or other less talked about streaming apps.
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Can you play Netflix in HD on those Boxes? What about Google Play Movies?
I don't think I've ever seen a build.prop from a Minix Box yet. But, for the rest of those Amalogic Boxes... Including the newer k200 (S812 SoC's). The Line:
media.amplayer.widevineenable= has been set to false. The upshot here is that Google Play Movies WILL NOT WORK, until you flip that bit to true, and reboot.
As to Amazon Prime... I wasn't able to get it working on my MXIII... A case of to many inter-operating Apps.. Install this, to install that so that App A) can call upon App b) (The Player), to work... Oddly enough the Kodi add-on just WORKS! Even with HD stuff... As for Netflix though? I'm not a customer of theres just yet.
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Can you play Netflix in HD on those Boxes? What about Google Play Movies?
I don't think I've ever seen a build.prop from a Minix Box yet. But, for the rest of those Amalogic Boxes... Including the newer k200 (S812 SoC's). The Line:
media.amplayer.widevineenable= has been set to false. The upshot here is that Google Play Movies WILL NOT WORK, until you flip that bit to true, and reboot.
As to Amazon Prime... I wasn't able to get it working on my MXIII... A case of to many inter-operating Apps.. Install this, to install that so that App A) can call upon App b) (The Player), to work... Oddly enough the Kodi add-on just WORKS! Even with HD stuff... As for Netflix though? I'm not a customer of theres just yet.
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Good questions, but my answers my not be the most fulfilling. When I first tried Netflix, I was using a friends account and did not specifically test HD playback. I do not use Netflix at the moment, so I'm not able to test again.
As for Amazon Prime i followed the app (a) to app (b) stuff and I think the way it works now is when I click on the app icon it actually takes me into the browser and allows me to select the movie I want to play and then it opens in MX Player.
KjK89 said:
Good questions, but my answers my not be the most fulfilling. When I first tried Netflix, I was using a friends account and did not specifically test HD playback. I do not use Netflix at the moment, so I'm not able to test again.
As for Amazon Prime i followed the app (a) to app (b) stuff and I think the way it works now is when I click on the app icon it actually takes me into the browser and allows me to select the movie I want to play and then it opens in MX Player.
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Yeah this to me seems wrong on soo many levels... I shouldn't have to jump though hoops just to watch something. It also doesn't do much to help when the stuff they have (Amazon Germany), is third-rate junk at best, and isn't even worth the One off payment of 50€ per annum at worst. Thankfully my two-week cooling off period is about to close soon ( I think tomorrow, or Thursday IIRC)... I shall definitely be making sure to cancel my 30 Day Trial ASAP!
Ichijoe said:
Yeah this to me seems wrong on soo many levels... I shouldn't have to jump though hoops just to watch something. It also doesn't do much to help when the stuff they have (Amazon Germany), is third-rate junk at best, and isn't even worth the One off payment of 50€ per annum at worst. Thankfully my two-week cooling off period is about to close soon ( I think tomorrow, or Thursday IIRC)... I shall definitely be making sure to cancel my 30 Day Trial ASAP!
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I hear you! I think its important to note, that this is a problem caused by Amazon tho, not the device manufacturer. Amazon does not have a very effective way of accessing prime videos on Android. I use prime because I do a lot of shopping on Amazon, so to me the movies are a bonus and now that I have it set up the right way, it really isn't too hard to use.
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I hear you! I think its important to note, that this is a problem caused by Amazon tho, not the device manufacturer. Amazon does not have a very effective way of accessing prime videos on Android. I use prime because I do a lot of shopping on Amazon, so to me the movies are a bonus and now that I have it set up the right way, it really isn't too hard to use.
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But, it is Amazons problem... The world is moving the hell away from MicroSoft's Silverlight as fast, as it can... Perhaps you might have heard that Goggle finally started removing NPAPI from Chrome... The bit that made Silverlight work on it? And, we're talking about PC's here now, NOT Android!
Besides I have to ask myself... If I must use something as bad as the MX Player (As more in what it devolved into, then what it used to be!), to render Amazon Prime in the first place.... Why even bother with any DRM in the first place? And, IF I needed such a Renderer, to, get this working... (Something that truly escapes me!), This might explain to my why I'm otherwise unable to use it outside of XBMC/Kodi. Which does work.
But, I suspect the "Difference" between you, and I is that you're using Amazon.com (US) - With the best Content going... While I'm on Amazon.de (Germany), - Which only has utter CRAP on it! As to the other "freebees" I don't own a Kindle, and I don't need any Free Shipping from them either. I joined this "venture" from the other-side as a VOD Provider with other goodies tossed in. Perhaps that was my failing here...
I have two MXQ android tv boxes in the house and they're working great, I also have rooted firmware installed on them which also includes gamepad support but I haven't tested that as I brought the mxq solely for using kodi.
snoozy said:
I bought a Tronfy MX-IV, looking at some of the other boxes it has the same design as the Beelink. Quite satisfied with it. Runs 4.4.2 with Kodi 14.2, 4k support. But i do recommend buying an airmouse. Most of these boxes come with a simple IR remote.
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Yes this device is not bad. Tronfy is also a tv box brand not that hot. Mind if i ask where did you offer it?
As i see a thread about Minix Neo X8-H. The tv box comes with an M1 air mouse. Many uses for the air mouse. Light and with great material.
So if MX-IV comes with one, that's perfect
The Tronfy MXIV doesn't come with an air mouse, but those are pretty cheap. Aside from that, it's a great box. Just waiting for Lollipop firmware and it will be perfect (as the Android TV Play Store and a lot of the apps are 5.x only).